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This right here is all I will ever need (A Year in the Life: Fall) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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Speaker 1: I am all in.
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Speaker 2: That's just you.
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Speaker 3: I am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.
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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast one
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Speaker 1: eleven Productions. iHeart radio, iHeart media, iHeart podcasts. We are
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Speaker 1: gonna break down a year in the life Fall recap.
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Speaker 1: I'm joined by partial intrepid crew, but pretty darn intrepid
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Speaker 1: in their own right. Suzanne French, Tyre suit, Amy and
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Speaker 1: Danielle will be joining us momentarily. And uh, are we
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Speaker 1: gonna do a recap? Or you want to just get
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Speaker 1: right into this?
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Speaker 4: Should we start with overall thoughts?
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Speaker 1: Or should we Okay, So I'm going to chime in here.
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Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoyed this. Yeah, I thought that it was
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Speaker 1: I always try to look at these as movies and
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Speaker 1: not to TV shows. It's an hour and a half.
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Speaker 1: It's a whole different structure, as I've said before. And
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Speaker 1: I thought Amy did a fantastic job of infusing all
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Speaker 1: of her influences, I mean, from Fellini to Fincher. I
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Speaker 1: saw her give a nod to so many different directors
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Speaker 1: in this film. I thought the Light and Death Brigade
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Speaker 1: stuff was magic. I thought the Luke and laurel ized
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Speaker 1: stuff was fraught with tension and just great. I thought
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Speaker 1: the Jess stuff was great. I thought a lot of it,
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Speaker 1: and I thought Alexis was great. I thought the entire
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Speaker 1: I thought the story or telling was spot on. I
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Speaker 1: think it's really hard and plus it didn't seem like
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Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls at all when it's in a film format,
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Speaker 1: because it's taking more time, it's breathing, it's more open.
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Speaker 1: You're getting close up of people reacting to things and
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Speaker 1: feeling things and emoting things. We can read thoughts without words.
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Speaker 1: And then at times it kicks in to our old
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Speaker 1: familiar Gilmour banter right to bring us back in to it.
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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yes, this is but so it had
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Speaker 1: the DNA, but it also Amy infused it with her
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Speaker 1: love of dance, her love of cinema, because she's not
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Speaker 1: just a TV gal, right, I mean she's an erudite,
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Speaker 1: accomplished consumer of film and literature and anything pop culture obviously,
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Speaker 1: and it was all infused into this film. And I
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Speaker 1: thought as a film as a romantic comedy or a dramedy,
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Speaker 1: it worked on every level and I enjoyed every single
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Speaker 1: part of it. Blew me away Blew Me Away could
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Speaker 1: have stood alone if they released it as a film,
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Speaker 1: like here you go, fans, let's let's release it into
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Speaker 1: three thousand theaters. I bet it would have done pretty
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Speaker 1: darn well.
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Speaker 5: No, and you watched it before, I mean no, you haven't.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I had to do a dr on our
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Speaker 1: you know, my big speech in the kitchen with Laura
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Speaker 1: when she returns from wilding. So i'd seen that before, Okay,
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Speaker 1: but that's pretty much it. I think I did a
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Speaker 1: little a dr on the just scene when the when
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Speaker 1: the flower broke over me oh h covered flower. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but I hadn't seen anything else, and I was I
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Speaker 1: was shocked, surprised and delighted by all of it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean in the first act, I was just like wow, Wow, Wow,
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Speaker 1: what an accomplishment. And I was so happy for Amy
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Speaker 1: Sherman Palladino because somebody had given her the money and
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Speaker 1: the means to make what really, you know, goes on
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Speaker 1: in her head in a film makes sense and get
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Speaker 1: it up on screen. She had free life, pretty much,
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Speaker 1: free license to do what she wanted. I thought she
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Speaker 1: did a beautiful job, a beautiful job. Yeah, And I
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Speaker 1: think a real contribution to the Gilmour Cannon. I don't
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Speaker 1: see it as my whole opinion of these episodes has changed.
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Speaker 1: You know, some are week better than others. But this
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Speaker 1: was just wow, krem de la creme, and actually kind
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Speaker 1: of it was almost like, I hate to use the term.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say autopsy of the series or
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Speaker 1: a post mortem of the series, but it kind of
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Speaker 1: rightfully ended it in a way, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: It's like, it's like all the loose ends were tied
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Speaker 1: up pretty much, except of course you've got this, yeah,
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Speaker 1: the cliffhanger, the four words at the end, right which
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Speaker 1: opens it all back up again. But I just thought,
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Speaker 1: what a delight, and they kept honoring Richard appropriately and
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Speaker 1: those were big moments. And I really do like how
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Speaker 1: they did the elopement and the wedding, but there's still
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Speaker 1: more room for storytelling. I just loved it all. I
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Speaker 1: loved it all anyway, I'll shut up you guys chime in.
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Speaker 5: I also loved it, and I also realized I hadn't
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Speaker 5: watched it in a really long time. I think I
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Speaker 5: kind of avoid it because it's like the end, like
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Speaker 5: the end, the end, kind of like how Amy avoided,
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Speaker 5: you know, the last episode of the series. But what
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Speaker 5: stood out to me, and again I agree with everything
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Speaker 5: you said, Scott, but I thought the directing, like the
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Speaker 5: camera work was so interesting that I actually looked up
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Speaker 5: and I noticed it was Amy who directed it, and
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Speaker 5: and the camera work was so interesting, the way like
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Speaker 5: it would turn or it was like kind of it
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Speaker 5: seemed like a handheld I don't know the like terminology of.
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Speaker 1: A lot of those shots were on a dolly, which
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Speaker 1: is actually like a train track. It's a mini train
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Speaker 1: track for yeah, for the platform that the camera sits
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Speaker 1: on so you can can it smoothly move And.
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Speaker 5: It's like my favorite scene and we'll get to it,
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Speaker 5: but was when Rory is alone in her grandparents' house,
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Speaker 5: Like that was my favorite scene, just the way it
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Speaker 5: was shot.
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Speaker 4: Are you talking about how this is the best episode ever?
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Speaker 6: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Amazing.
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Speaker 5: I wrote out of text to you last night. I
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Speaker 5: deleted it because I was like, I need to wait,
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Speaker 5: but I was like I needed to know what you
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Speaker 5: thought of the just.
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Speaker 2: I feel like he redeems it.
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Speaker 4: I cannot handle this episode. It was everything I needed
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Speaker 4: and then some. And I just wish all four were
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Speaker 4: like this because it was so Gilmore Girls in every heart,
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Speaker 4: every scene was Gilmore Girls, and I, oh my god,
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Speaker 4: I'm just so happy it ended this way, like so
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Speaker 4: thrilled me too.
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Speaker 1: Me too. I think it's the you know, it gave
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Speaker 1: me this. I mean, it opened up a whole new world.
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Speaker 1: It's like, why is an Amy Sherman Paladina writing and
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Speaker 1: directing films? I think she likes the immediacy of TV
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Speaker 1: and the length and the width and the breadth and
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Speaker 1: the depth of the storytelling that she can accomplish in
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Speaker 1: a short period of time with TV because she does
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Speaker 1: it at such a high level. But what she would
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Speaker 1: be a great film director too. Oh, I mean just
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Speaker 1: some of those like the shots like Tara, that shot
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Speaker 1: of Rory opening up her laptop in Richard's office and
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Speaker 1: starting to write her boss. The lighting there, it was gorgeous.
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Speaker 1: It was like the beautiful movie shots.
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Speaker 4: And there we was there was I feel like every
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Speaker 4: loop was closed, Like That's what I loved about it.
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Speaker 4: It's just every but then obviously left on a massive cliffhanger,
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Speaker 4: but it just felt like we got closure on a
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Speaker 4: lot on a loaned mm hmm.
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Speaker 3: It was definitely the most cinematic of the four episodes,
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Speaker 3: and I have to also, you know, give props to
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Speaker 3: the set decoration, Like absolutely, the whole Life and Death
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Speaker 3: Brigade thing, I thought that was a little drawn out,
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Speaker 3: but visually lighting with it, it was so stunning. And
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Speaker 3: then the whole wedding scene that's kind of the Alice
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Speaker 3: in Wonderland theme, Like it just was like this magical Wonderland.
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Speaker 1: Did not take your breath away. When Rory went into
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Speaker 1: the stars Hollow Gazette at night and she was having
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Speaker 1: that you know, this felliniesque experience outside with the crow
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Speaker 1: talking to her, Yeah, you know all that, and the
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Speaker 1: guy going by on a unicycle predicting doom and all stuff.
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Speaker 3: It was good.
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Speaker 1: It was It was so Italian noir.
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Speaker 4: There was a lot of references to other things as well,
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Speaker 4: like at the end of should we just jump into it, guys,
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Speaker 4: because I feel.
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Speaker 1: Like I wrote them down, but I mean that when
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Speaker 1: she's inside and then she and then the camera comes
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Speaker 1: around and gets a little bit behind her and we
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Speaker 1: see three of the Light and Death Brigades coming emerging
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Speaker 1: from the mist, it was like, wow, it was so beautiful.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch this again to you.
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Speaker 4: I already watched twice. I'm gonna watch it third, fourth, Ye,
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Speaker 4: I want.
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Speaker 1: To watch it again.
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Speaker 5: It was I mean, I have to admit I want
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Speaker 5: to watch episode one again, like of the whole series
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Speaker 5: right after because I was like, it can't end.
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Speaker 4: This was like an hour and forty minutes. It was
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Speaker 4: the longest before. It felt like twenty It felt so short.
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Speaker 4: I don't know how to explain it. I was just
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Speaker 4: hooked and fully invested the whole.
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Speaker 1: What a gift, What a gift to the fans, you know,
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Speaker 1: I mean, what a gift. Thank you, thank you, thank you,
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Speaker 1: Amy Sherman peld you know, for this brilliant piece of filmmaking,
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Speaker 1: brilliant on every level. It's like, as witty as the
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Speaker 1: banter she creates, as funny as she can write, as
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Speaker 1: dramatic as she can write. She also knows what the
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Speaker 1: hell to do with a camera. She knows how to
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Speaker 1: move a camera. And it's like, wow, what a what
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Speaker 1: a what a talent? My gosh, my gosh. Anyway, should
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Speaker 1: we even bother synopsizing? Yeah, let's get into it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so gosh, there is so much to talk about.
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Speaker 3: So we start out. Lorelai is doing wild in air quotes.
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Speaker 3: She's got this crazy backpack that is practically a character
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Speaker 3: by itself. And then uh, so we see Jason Ritter.
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Speaker 3: He's the first park ranger and of course probably most
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Speaker 3: people know they work together in Parenthood. There were all
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Speaker 3: there were like a lot of connections to Parenthood and.
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Speaker 5: It is I think we talked about it. Parenthood had
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Speaker 5: just ended because we had May Whitman. Then you have
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Speaker 5: Peter Krause in this episode as well, and then.
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Speaker 1: She's right, you also had Lauren's assistant. Yes, who was
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Speaker 1: who was the whale? Uh in the Whale Museum? Right.
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Speaker 3: I recommended the voice immediately because he was in that
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Speaker 3: other episode. He was the one that wanted the steel
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Speaker 3: cut oats. She's six sometime. Yeah, so lot lots of callbacks.
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Speaker 3: So okay, Booker movie, she doesn't have her permit. Oh
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Speaker 3: that's right. They were all going to start again the
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Speaker 3: next day because the conditions were bad for boot throwing,
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Speaker 3: So they all go back to their motel and then
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Speaker 3: this is the part that you were talking about, Scott,
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Speaker 3: where they're back at the Gazette and first Rory gets
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Speaker 3: that message on her computer like this is like pre
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Speaker 3: I am I guess she's she's got like the message
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Speaker 3: on her computer. Ready says ready, and then the pedal
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Speaker 3: the pig runs by, So you already know like, okay, something,
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Speaker 3: this is going to be like super literal. There's gonna
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Speaker 3: be some sort of fantasy elements here. And then we
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Speaker 3: go to the diner scene. I loved the diner scene
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Speaker 3: with Jess and Luke and everybody's on their laptops.
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Speaker 4: And I said this after the last episode, where is
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Speaker 4: Jess and Luke that was missing and I'm finally.
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Speaker 3: I told you to stay tuned, Remember.
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Speaker 4: You did, and it was a great payoff.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. I love that scene. And you know,
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Speaker 3: Luke is all confused and off balance and funny little
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Speaker 3: thing about how the vegetable cult kicked out TJ because
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Speaker 3: they were two heard and then they have they have
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Speaker 3: that nice conversation about Lorelei, you know, what is her
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Speaker 3: ultimate intent with you know, leaving town and going out
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Speaker 3: on this hike, and so that was that was just
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Speaker 3: a great, a great moment between them, and so we
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Speaker 3: seen it.
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Speaker 4: There was a lot that was in that scene though.
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Speaker 4: You you saw that Luke was come to terms that
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Speaker 4: with the fact that Laurla may leave him right because
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Speaker 4: you know, there was rockiness there and Jess can sniff
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Speaker 4: that out like a mile away that something was going
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Speaker 4: on with Luke, and Luke just revealed, you know, he
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Speaker 4: revealed his biggest fear, that Laura I was going to
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Speaker 4: leave him. I thought that was super powerful.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was such a role reversal too, because
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Speaker 3: in the original series, it was always Luke trying to
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Speaker 3: help Jess, and now it's completely the opposite, Like Jess
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Speaker 3: is the adult and he's trying to help Luke through
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Speaker 3: think through this situation. I really love Jess in that scene.
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Speaker 4: And then he like the Internet.
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Speaker 1: That was so funny.
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Speaker 5: I'll also laugh about bagels split four ways.
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Speaker 3: Really yeah, just a great scene all around. And then
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Speaker 3: we go back to the motel where laurel I is
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Speaker 3: with the other hikers and they're sitting around the fire
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Speaker 3: pit talking about their stories. I really liked Lorelei's line
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Speaker 3: when they asked her what her story was and she says, oh,
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Speaker 3: there's no story, just a punchline like that kind of
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Speaker 3: sums up her story, like it how she kind of
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Speaker 3: uses humor to push other things away and to put
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Speaker 3: up that wall around herself, and it really just in
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Speaker 3: her mind, everything just boils down to a punchline. I
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Speaker 3: thought that was powerful.
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Speaker 4: I didn't even pick that up, but you're right, you're
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Speaker 4: very right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And let's see. So they all are talking about,
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Speaker 3: you know, they all want to get some insight from this,
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Speaker 3: which I think that's just the theme of Wild is,
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Speaker 3: you know, everybody wants to get some insight from that height,
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Speaker 3: whether it's you know, theoretical or physical. And just like
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Speaker 3: we saw in the last scene with Luke talking about
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Speaker 3: his fears, now we're seeing Laurel I talking about her fears.
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Speaker 3: You know, she thought she had everything figured out and
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Speaker 3: now she's not so sure anymore.
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Speaker 1: You know, before we got your father's a little behind
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Speaker 1: the scenes stuff that I should have shared. While we're
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Speaker 1: talking about the Luke and Jess scene. How did how
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Speaker 1: did they get the flower on me? Oh? Yeah, there
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Speaker 1: was somebody back there. I forget who it was. It
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Speaker 1: might have been Robert Lee. Somebody was back there, and
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Speaker 1: they poured it on me every take. Gosh, I had
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Speaker 1: to try to close my eyes and then they dumped
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Speaker 1: it on you, and then I dacked forrassled walkout and.
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Speaker 2: Did you have to change your clothes. Hi, everybody, Sorry
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Speaker 2: I was late. Hi, I missed you all. Did you
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Speaker 2: have to change your clothes and restart the front part?
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Speaker 2: They got the flower off of you.
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Speaker 1: Uh well, I emerge with the flower on, so I
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Speaker 1: always have it on.
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Speaker 2: Go back there, okay, because we just hear you okay.
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Speaker 1: Oh gosh. I don't think we had to do it.
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Speaker 1: I only think we had to do it the one time,
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Speaker 1: maybe one or two times. It wasn't knocked right. I
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Speaker 1: mean it's like with the with the push in the
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Speaker 1: in the water, it's one take. With this was one take.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's all easy. It's all easy.
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Speaker 2: Ry sort of dryness. I don't know what the like
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Speaker 2: right where it is the dry sarcasm of the scenes
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Speaker 2: with you and Mila. They always have that sort of
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Speaker 2: like there's a sarcasm, there's sort of a it's very understated,
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Speaker 2: it's never overacted. And both of you play. I literally
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Speaker 2: remember when I was watching Fall, thinking these two are buds, right,
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Speaker 2: like you see it in the episode like and I
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Speaker 2: want to talk all about Milo in this episode. I
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Speaker 2: love Fall, It's my favorite one of all the movies.
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Speaker 2: But I because it made me think about the podcast
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Speaker 2: episode where we had Milo on the friendship and the
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Speaker 2: sort of like bromance between the two of you is
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Speaker 2: so obvious. It's obvious in this episode, and it's obvious
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Speaker 2: when we had him on just the love that you
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Speaker 2: guys have for each other.
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Speaker 4: So jealous, I want a bromance with Milo.
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Speaker 1: He also looked extra for Buff this episode. He was jazzed, I.
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Speaker 5: Think in the in this in the scene in the house,
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Speaker 5: I was like, man, he's.
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Speaker 2: A real highlight to this episode, and I know, well,
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Speaker 2: I don't know what I missed. The scene at his
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Speaker 2: sort of final moment looking in on Rory.
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Speaker 4: At it, real emotional.
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Speaker 1: The whole episode was like that cried multiple times.
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Speaker 2: Really was better this time, Susanne, you were so right
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Speaker 2: watching it multiple times because for me when I whatever,
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't want to give the end,
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Speaker 2: but like I have a total different take on the
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Speaker 2: end now than I did eight years ago.
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Speaker 1: M hm. And the.
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Speaker 2: Writing of the new series in my head where the
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Speaker 2: baby is Logan's but Milo is the is the boyfriend
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Speaker 2: is just everywhere.
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Speaker 4: For me right now, like we have to we have
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Speaker 4: to talk about it. I completely disagree. Oh, I feel
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Speaker 4: like that was that an actual spin off, Like, no,
19:39
Speaker 4: I'm making it up to me.
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Speaker 2: To me, the Logan is the baby daddy, but she's
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Speaker 2: reconcile with Jess and that is a series. I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I am, why do you hate that?
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Speaker 4: No, I just I don't think. I think this is
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Speaker 4: going to say really weird, but I think Jess is
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Speaker 4: too good for Rorri. Now. I don't think he's going back.
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Speaker 4: I think he's moved on. I think he's on his path.
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Speaker 4: And say that except for the way he looks, I know,
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Speaker 4: but it's it's that look that he gave is. I
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Speaker 4: will always love her, but we're not meant to be.
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Speaker 2: I didn't.
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Speaker 4: I will always love her.
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Speaker 2: I love her.
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Speaker 1: That. I don't know if I got the it's not
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Speaker 1: meant to be part.
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Speaker 2: See, I agree with you, Scott, I got Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: love her and this is fun to speculate.
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Speaker 4: I did want to do that on this episode. I
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Speaker 4: wanted to speculate on what's next, Like what if if
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Speaker 4: there was one more uh year in the life, what
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Speaker 4: that would look like?
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean with a with a Logan baby and
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Speaker 1: being together with Jess. That's history repeating itself, right, That's
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Speaker 1: that's Christopher. And then Luke, and it's.
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Speaker 2: It's Dean and Jess mirrors it's also Dean and Jess.
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Speaker 2: It's like, look, this show doesn't doesn't shy away from
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Speaker 2: trying right. It loves a triangle everything in the show,
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Speaker 2: which is like a whole psychology of this show. But
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Speaker 2: the triangle of Grandma, mother daughter, the triangle of Christopher, Lorli, Luke, Dean, Jesse, Rory.
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Speaker 2: Like we had triangles throughout this series, and fans like triangles. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: the tale is oldest time. Guys. Wait what did I miss?
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Speaker 2: By the way, how far did we get?
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Speaker 4: Not that far?
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Speaker 1: Not that far.
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Speaker 3: We're just coming up to the scene where they were
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Speaker 3: the Life and Death Brigade.
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Speaker 1: And we were lavishing Fall with excessive praise to the
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Speaker 1: point where it all made us sick.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was a significant amount of life.
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Speaker 2: If you will indulge me, If you will indulge me,
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Speaker 2: I agree. Fall is great.
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Speaker 1: Great.
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Speaker 2: Fall is great from start to finish. The hair has
21:57
Speaker 2: totally improved.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, except from my hair piece. I'm sorry that
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Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad.
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Speaker 2: It's not great.
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Speaker 1: The camera move around at the gazebo and the wedding,
22:08
Speaker 1: and that looked like it fell from about ten thousand
22:11
Speaker 1: feet and splatted on top of my head. I'm sorry,
22:14
Speaker 1: not terrible.
22:15
Speaker 2: It's not terrible that here.
22:17
Speaker 1: I really noticed it though the other scene, right it
22:22
Speaker 1: looked okay, but.
22:23
Speaker 2: That Lauren Lorelei's hair is totally improved back to normal.
22:27
Speaker 1: I looked like Earl Shibe, you know, selling paint. It
22:31
Speaker 1: was it was. It was bad. Go ahead, all right.
22:37
Speaker 2: Zan was.
22:39
Speaker 1: Was leading the charge here.
22:41
Speaker 3: Great, I was trying to We keep getting distracted though,
22:44
Speaker 3: because we keep going off. I mean, that's just what
22:46
Speaker 3: we do.
22:46
Speaker 1: We got It's what we do. It's Tangent City. Our
22:48
Speaker 1: love for Fall makes us visit Tangent City so often
22:52
Speaker 1: now so we have.
22:55
Speaker 3: We were talking about how there's so many throwbacks in
22:57
Speaker 3: this episode to the original show, and I I realized
23:01
Speaker 3: we already missed one of them. And that was at
23:03
Speaker 3: the very opening scene where she's got the backpackage. She's
23:05
Speaker 3: on the phone leaving a message for Luke and she
23:07
Speaker 3: makes a comment about how all parts of the tree
23:10
Speaker 3: are edible, and that was from she had a conversation
23:13
Speaker 3: with Jess about that when he was cleaning out the gutters.
23:17
Speaker 3: And I know that's a pop culture reference. It's from
23:19
Speaker 3: her book. I don't we maybe.
23:22
Speaker 1: Me?
23:23
Speaker 4: And then.
23:25
Speaker 3: So in this scene we have the gorilla masks are back.
23:29
Speaker 3: Remember R's in missile encounter with the Life and Death
23:32
Speaker 3: Brigade was the girl and the gorilla mask in the bathroom.
23:35
Speaker 4: I will say, like with the computer and the pig
23:38
Speaker 4: and like all that, I didn't piece it together that
23:42
Speaker 4: they were coming back. But then when I saw them,
23:45
Speaker 4: I was like.
23:46
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, I need another Life and
23:52
Speaker 6: Death Brigade like throw I needed that again.
23:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that some people don't love it, which
23:59
Speaker 2: I think is look because I saw in the comments
24:01
Speaker 2: when we were all talking about the musical that people
24:03
Speaker 2: were like, I know, Amy's gonna love this part and
24:06
Speaker 2: it's so cringey.
24:08
Speaker 4: Whatever, I don't like this.
24:11
Speaker 2: Some people don't. I mean that was my inference, if
24:14
Speaker 2: that's a word inference, inference inference from their comments, because
24:18
Speaker 2: they didn't come out and say it. They said, oh,
24:21
Speaker 2: they're gonna like this or they're not gonna like this whatever.
24:25
Speaker 2: I love it so much that I YouTube just this
24:28
Speaker 2: scene all the time. I love the music, I love
24:31
Speaker 2: the dancing, I love the mist, I love.
24:33
Speaker 3: The dark miss.
24:36
Speaker 2: The way they yeah, the way they're revealed.
24:40
Speaker 3: I love her.
24:40
Speaker 2: I love that blue coat. I literally have been scouring
24:44
Speaker 2: the internet for that blue.
24:47
Speaker 1: Right. And it's stuff, it's film, it's cinema, it's actual
24:52
Speaker 1: high level cinema or homage to high level cinema.
24:56
Speaker 2: Right, fol Dancing with the Stars number.
24:59
Speaker 4: We were at the Tata Club a little too long.
25:01
Speaker 4: It could have been a little I did. I did
25:05
Speaker 4: love it.
25:06
Speaker 2: I wanted Matt Zuger and Alexis to learn a full dance.
25:13
Speaker 2: I could have stayed longer, Thank you, Scott.
25:15
Speaker 4: I just thought I thought dance was so bad.
25:20
Speaker 3: They both looked awkward to me, like.
25:26
Speaker 1: World class dancers that were hired. How are they going
25:29
Speaker 1: to shine? You know?
25:30
Speaker 3: I love those.
25:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the jokes of their just like astonishing privilege, right,
25:38
Speaker 2: just buying this and buying that, and then it ends.
25:43
Speaker 3: With my heartbreaking like.
25:48
Speaker 2: Rory, It's almost like it's just painful. And even though
25:52
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, and even though he's such a cheater, cheater,
25:55
Speaker 2: pumpkin eater, I'm so like forgiving of it. And she's
25:59
Speaker 2: like they're both wrong, but like it's.
26:02
Speaker 1: So right, and you just it takes on, you know
26:07
Speaker 1: a lot of what Rory was doing what was going
26:09
Speaker 1: on in this is it was taking on tragic proportions
26:12
Speaker 1: and it's.
26:14
Speaker 4: So well done, so you just want one of them
26:18
Speaker 4: so badly to be like can we be together? And
26:21
Speaker 4: I feel like Rory gave that her shot by saying,
26:25
Speaker 4: are you really going to.
26:26
Speaker 6: Marry your debt?
26:26
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, she tried to go there. She gave it
26:31
Speaker 4: the shot that it needed. And I think that's why
26:34
Speaker 4: she's so easily able to move on because she gave
26:38
Speaker 4: it the shot and realized that it's not happening, that
26:41
Speaker 4: that's that that's not happening.
26:43
Speaker 2: Yeah.
26:44
Speaker 3: I want to spend a second on that because I
26:47
Speaker 3: always see on comments on social media people say things like, oh,
26:53
Speaker 3: you know, Logan would have been Logan would have left
26:57
Speaker 3: Odette if Rory had asked him to.
26:59
Speaker 4: She did then shed, and that to me, that was her.
27:03
Speaker 3: Giving him an opening and she said are you really
27:06
Speaker 3: going to marry her? That would have been the perfect
27:08
Speaker 3: time for him to say something flip like, well, make
27:11
Speaker 3: me a better offer or something like that, and he doesn't.
27:14
Speaker 3: He says that's the dynastic plan. He to me, that's
27:17
Speaker 3: totally a cop out, and you know he's in his
27:21
Speaker 3: mid thirties. Now he doesn't have to marry who Mommy
27:24
Speaker 3: and Daddy tell him to marry. If he wants to
27:26
Speaker 3: be with Rory, he can leave Odette without her telling
27:29
Speaker 3: him to, like, he can make that choice, and he doesn't.
27:33
Speaker 2: But here's why that doesn't happen. Sorry, I don't want
27:36
Speaker 2: to interrupt you.
27:36
Speaker 1: Right to withdraw his stock options.
27:41
Speaker 3: Well, no, God, he's got the best of both worlds
27:43
Speaker 3: right now. He's got his cake and he's eating it.
27:46
Speaker 2: So storytelling wise, here's why I think that doesn't happen
27:51
Speaker 2: because if he says to her, then I want to
27:54
Speaker 2: be with you, we don't have our end of mom
27:57
Speaker 2: I'm pregnant. It would be like I'm marrying Logan and
27:59
Speaker 2: I'm pregnant. It's just a totally different mic drop. So
28:03
Speaker 2: for me, it's all part of this story, right, and
28:07
Speaker 2: we're left with a huge cliffhanger essentially. So I think
28:11
Speaker 2: the storytelling is because he doesn't say like no, never,
28:15
Speaker 2: It's like he sort of gives that answer Susanne. I
28:17
Speaker 2: think you said it like that's the plan. That doesn't
28:20
Speaker 2: mean yes, he said that's the plan.
28:23
Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean no on Logan's part either. There's
28:26
Speaker 1: still storytelling to be had there.
28:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you're right, You're right, And then we get
28:31
Speaker 2: to this end because the end, everything is leading to
28:35
Speaker 2: the end, right, we're heartbroken for her. Oh gosh, I
28:39
Speaker 2: clearly he's the daddy, right, Like there's nothing It's never
28:43
Speaker 2: been more obvious to me than on this rewatch that
28:45
Speaker 2: he is the father. Yeah, but that's why we're left.
28:51
Speaker 2: That's why she's so brilliant Amy, because that's why we
28:55
Speaker 2: have that moment with Jess of him looking in the
28:58
Speaker 2: window and all of us going, oh my god, he
29:00
Speaker 2: because otherwise why would Luke say, is that is that over?
29:04
Speaker 1: Oh?
29:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's over? And then he looks at her like,
29:08
Speaker 4: we'll get into it, and and I do. At the
29:10
Speaker 4: end of this, stew want to talk about what we
29:13
Speaker 4: all think is coming up, because I think the we'll
29:17
Speaker 4: talk about it. The scene with Christopher was very important too.
29:21
Speaker 4: There's a lot in there. There's a lot in there
29:24
Speaker 4: about Yeah, so we'll get.
29:26
Speaker 2: Into this scene scene and then I want to let
29:29
Speaker 2: you finish.
29:31
Speaker 4: What I love about about this part though, is I
29:36
Speaker 4: I actually as a fake, as a as a viewer
29:39
Speaker 4: who's been watching this in season one, I have never
29:42
Speaker 4: liked Rory. I will be the first person to say
29:44
Speaker 4: I have been saying that I loved her so much
29:48
Speaker 4: in this scene because she was like, you know what,
29:50
Speaker 4: I'm going to get my own car and I'm going
29:52
Speaker 4: to get the hell out of here and I'm going
29:54
Speaker 4: to start doing things for myself. And I feel like
29:56
Speaker 4: we finally saw the wheels start to turn in her
29:59
Speaker 4: brain and this, and I really really love that. I
30:03
Speaker 4: don't know, I just got to give like kudos to
30:05
Speaker 4: Rory here.
30:06
Speaker 6: I just do.
30:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And she didn't take the keys and she's
30:11
Speaker 1: the keys.
30:12
Speaker 4: And she fad and I love that she was like
30:15
Speaker 4: I know where I want to write this, and I'm like,
30:17
Speaker 4: where is she going to write this? And then we
30:18
Speaker 4: get the payoff, you know, like there's oh god, Amy
30:22
Speaker 4: is such a freaking genius. All this stuff is just.
30:27
Speaker 1: Shows real growth as a character and real maturity as
30:33
Speaker 1: as as a character. I mean, it's it's yeah, it's
30:37
Speaker 1: wonderful to watch.
30:38
Speaker 2: Think you also really feel like Amy Sherman Palladino loves
30:43
Speaker 2: these characters right, because she did right by them all
30:47
Speaker 2: pretty much, except for the one joke that I just
30:49
Speaker 2: was like, he doesn't think that's how surrogacy works. But whatever,
30:52
Speaker 2: we'll get to that. She really did not other than
30:58
Speaker 2: that one line, she really didn't write by all the characters,
31:03
Speaker 2: all of them, and I, frankly, we can argue this.
31:08
Speaker 2: I'm not mad about how they get married. I thought
31:11
Speaker 2: it was beautiful and I'm frank Yeah, so we'll get
31:17
Speaker 2: to that. But anyway, Susanne, I wanted to let you
31:19
Speaker 2: finish your thought.
31:21
Speaker 1: Still have a big wedding.
31:23
Speaker 2: They're having a party, the party is not canceled.
31:27
Speaker 1: There's more story to be told her. I I completely agree.
31:30
Speaker 2: They just needed that they ceremony to be so intimate
31:37
Speaker 2: and just when you're and you're like, oh, Michelle's there
31:40
Speaker 2: and Lane's there, this is It gives me chills. I
31:44
Speaker 2: was so pleased. I was just like, this is and
31:47
Speaker 2: that and she's walking through and then to not end
31:52
Speaker 2: on that scene that you end on the morning after
31:55
Speaker 2: before the big celebration with this bomb drop. But anyway, Susanne,
31:59
Speaker 2: keep talking about because I don't want to not acknowledge
32:01
Speaker 2: your frustration with logan, even though I saw great meaning
32:05
Speaker 2: in it.
32:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I made my point. I just was
32:09
Speaker 3: saying that, you know, a lot of people think that
32:12
Speaker 3: Rory needs to tell Logan to leave Odette and then
32:15
Speaker 3: he will be with her. But my point was really
32:17
Speaker 3: that he is making a choice to be with Odette
32:21
Speaker 3: and not Rory because.
32:22
Speaker 4: Of the ball here he got. She was leading him
32:24
Speaker 4: to water and he didn't take like she she was
32:27
Speaker 4: doing it. I did want to say in this scene.
32:29
Speaker 4: It was a callback that I wanted to bring up.
32:32
Speaker 4: When she was saying bye to the three was Wizard
32:35
Speaker 4: of Oz? Did anybody?
32:37
Speaker 5: Yeah?
32:38
Speaker 3: Yeah?
32:39
Speaker 2: Yeah?
32:39
Speaker 4: And I was literally I was like, this is she
32:42
Speaker 4: was saying by the tin man and the lie exactly?
32:46
Speaker 4: It was exactly it.
32:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's dumb.
32:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, I did not get that.
32:51
Speaker 4: Okay, really maybe watch it, watch it back Amy.
32:55
Speaker 2: Just now maybe Susanne, I don't know if you have
32:57
Speaker 2: the what she says, but natural when she's saying her yeah,
33:01
Speaker 2: I know right where it is now and I'm now
33:03
Speaker 2: getting it and the whole you know, I felt, you
33:06
Speaker 2: can alsoy one thing really fast and then I'll shut
33:08
Speaker 2: the hell up. This scene. I don't know if I
33:11
Speaker 2: love it so much because it resonates so much with me.
33:14
Speaker 2: Have you ever had that night, that that night with
33:18
Speaker 2: the person you love and you're surrounded by these like
33:21
Speaker 2: the cool kids, and the whole thing's just firing on
33:24
Speaker 2: all cylinders and you love this night, and yet you
33:27
Speaker 2: keep looking at your watch because you're like, oh god,
33:30
Speaker 2: we only have seven more hours. Oh god, we only
33:32
Speaker 2: have six more hours. And I just felt that and
33:35
Speaker 2: it's like, oh gosh, that was three nights.
33:38
Speaker 1: A week when I lived in New York City. I
33:39
Speaker 1: mean that was like.
33:42
Speaker 4: I just kind of blew my mind a little bit. Sorry,
33:45
Speaker 4: But back to the whole Wizard of Oz thing. If
33:48
Speaker 4: you think about uh, Wizard of Oz and Rory and
33:51
Speaker 4: this is Dorothy, she's saying goodbye to these you know,
33:55
Speaker 4: the line and the tin Man and the Scarecrow, and
33:59
Speaker 4: she is going back home, right, So she's staying back,
34:02
Speaker 4: saying bye to this like beautiful land of Oz or whatever,
34:06
Speaker 4: and is going back home. I feel like that is
34:09
Speaker 4: literally what Rory's doing in the scene. She's saying goodbye
34:12
Speaker 4: to the Life and Death Brigade but going back home
34:15
Speaker 4: to write her book. Like there's a lot of something
34:18
Speaker 4: there I don't know.
34:19
Speaker 3: And the whole point and we're getting a little bit
34:21
Speaker 3: ahead because we're actually not at that scene yet, but
34:25
Speaker 3: the whole point in the Wizard of Oz was that
34:28
Speaker 3: Dorothy had the power the whole time. She didn't need
34:31
Speaker 3: the Wizard, she didn't need to go on this whole
34:34
Speaker 3: physical journey. She had the power the whole time. It's
34:36
Speaker 3: kind of the same thing with Rory, like she's always
34:39
Speaker 3: had that internal power and now she's going to exercise.
34:42
Speaker 4: It and go, you know, you, guys, this is so good.
34:46
Speaker 4: I can't even handle it.
34:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good, so much.
34:59
Speaker 3: Before we leave the tango club or the Yeah, the
35:01
Speaker 3: tango club, I just wanted to club. So the cigarette
35:07
Speaker 3: girl was Amy shrim Palladino's mom. I don't know if
35:13
Speaker 3: that or not really, Yeah, And then the other thing.
35:17
Speaker 3: I realized this last night for the first time. The room,
35:23
Speaker 3: like the physical room at the studio where they shot
35:25
Speaker 3: that scene, I realized last night is the same room,
35:29
Speaker 3: a different end of it where Luke and LORLEI had
35:33
Speaker 3: the I am all in conversation. One end of that
35:36
Speaker 3: room was the restaurant where they went on that date
35:39
Speaker 3: and said I am all in. And I figured it
35:43
Speaker 3: out because when we were on the lot for the
35:47
Speaker 3: coffee event back in January, we went in there and
35:51
Speaker 3: you were, Scott, you were talking about how yeah, this
35:54
Speaker 3: is where we filmed that scene. I took a picture,
35:57
Speaker 3: and when I was watching the episode last.
35:59
Speaker 2: Night, I'm like, wait a minute, did you go back
36:01
Speaker 2: the same stairs?
36:02
Speaker 3: And so I pulled up when Rory and Logan are
36:06
Speaker 3: standing there like on a balcony and the ceiling is
36:09
Speaker 3: really low and they're like leaning over the rail looking
36:12
Speaker 3: out at the dancers, and then they go down the stairs.
36:14
Speaker 3: I went back and looked at my picture. It's exactly
36:17
Speaker 3: the same staircase.
36:18
Speaker 1: Does that Did that room seem large enough to shoot
36:23
Speaker 1: all that tango club scene?
36:26
Speaker 3: Really, the dancing was from a different angle, so the
36:30
Speaker 3: dancing may have been in a different place, but when
36:33
Speaker 3: when they're coming down those steps, that was in that
36:37
Speaker 3: same room as the restaurant.
36:39
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of coffee events at Warner Brothers,
36:41
Speaker 1: we just had another one to launch the Fall Blend
36:46
Speaker 1: and it was eruptive. It was fantastic. I got the
36:50
Speaker 1: surprise fifty fans from the tour. It was really great,
36:53
Speaker 1: serve them all coffee.
36:55
Speaker 2: You can see the videos are so great.
36:57
Speaker 1: We had such a good time. Anyway back anyway, so
37:01
Speaker 1: I just wanted to.
37:02
Speaker 3: Say those two things about the Tango Club so then
37:04
Speaker 3: they go to the inn, which, if you look closely,
37:07
Speaker 3: that was the Dragonfly. They just repainted it and put
37:11
Speaker 3: some furniture in some different places, but the inn in
37:14
Speaker 3: New Hampshire that they all go to was the Dragon
37:16
Speaker 3: dragon Fly.
37:18
Speaker 1: Wow.
37:19
Speaker 3: And then so then there was after that. They get
37:22
Speaker 3: to the inn and they go up to Logan's room.
37:28
Speaker 3: Then there was a short quick scene back at the
37:30
Speaker 3: motel with Lorelei and her new friends that was just
37:34
Speaker 3: kind of filler. They're all coming back out for the
37:37
Speaker 3: next round.
37:38
Speaker 2: You guys might have already said this, but I was
37:40
Speaker 2: happily surprised because in my memory Wild took way too long,
37:46
Speaker 2: but it actually doesn't.
37:48
Speaker 1: It doesn't.
37:49
Speaker 2: In my memory, I was like, oh, Wild, And now
37:51
Speaker 2: I'm like, actually, Wild was fine. It was totally appropriately long.
37:56
Speaker 1: And i'll tell you appropriately short. That phone call to Emily, Wow,
38:02
Speaker 1: I know, wow, what a performance I know. I mean,
38:09
Speaker 1: Gez Chock put that in the top five of of
38:14
Speaker 1: Lauren Graham scenes. I mean, that was something that was
38:17
Speaker 1: some display of good.
38:19
Speaker 3: It was really amazing, and it was it was so real,
38:23
Speaker 3: like you could tell the emotion was real.
38:27
Speaker 5: I also think Amy and Dan wrote that or Amy
38:30
Speaker 5: wrote it so well because you could picture it like
38:33
Speaker 5: every like every word she said in that monologue, I
38:36
Speaker 5: could like picture Richard and her as a little girl
38:38
Speaker 5: and them at the mall and the pretzels, like it
38:40
Speaker 5: was just so perfectly explained and it was a beautiful
38:45
Speaker 5: story told.
38:46
Speaker 4: I literally had chills talking about it. Again.
38:51
Speaker 1: That's so great that that Emily has. She just listens. Yeah,
38:56
Speaker 1: that's how powerful it was.
38:58
Speaker 4: And they just hung up at the end, like there
39:00
Speaker 4: there didn't she just knew.
39:02
Speaker 2: She just thank you, right, she just thank you for
39:04
Speaker 2: telling me.
39:05
Speaker 4: And I do love that because I think Emily needed
39:08
Speaker 4: that from Lauralai so bad.
39:10
Speaker 1: You know, they needed to another major on from that moment.
39:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was it was like what she needed back
39:20
Speaker 5: at the funeral, that she that's what that's the story
39:22
Speaker 5: she wanted at the funeral.
39:23
Speaker 4: But she accepted it this time, which I feel like
39:26
Speaker 4: in normal Emily what you know, uh, in her normal behavior,
39:31
Speaker 4: she would have been like, Okay, Laura, I well you know.
39:36
Speaker 2: What, you should have told me this then?
39:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, how nice of you to bring this up now,
39:41
Speaker 4: you know, like I some kind of backhanded remark. And
39:45
Speaker 4: I feel like the fact that she accepted it was
39:47
Speaker 4: so beautiful. There was just something really sweet to that moment.
39:51
Speaker 1: You know what was beautiful about this entire episode? It
39:53
Speaker 1: was completely lacking and correct me if I'm wrong. It
39:58
Speaker 1: was completely lacking in what we grew grew very used to,
40:03
Speaker 1: which was all of this conflict. It was just it
40:07
Speaker 1: was an entire hour and forty minutes of resolution and
40:12
Speaker 1: coming to terms and accepting reality and letting things go
40:16
Speaker 1: and opening your heart and new horizons opening up and
40:21
Speaker 1: getting married, and it was just all a celebration. Uh,
40:25
Speaker 1: wonderful style, just wonderful, shockingly great episode, shocking, shockingly great film.
40:32
Speaker 2: I agree, it's so good.
40:33
Speaker 1: It's so good.
40:35
Speaker 3: So then we go back to the scene at the
40:39
Speaker 3: end and this is this is where Rory and Logan
40:43
Speaker 3: are in bed and she he gives, she gives.
40:48
Speaker 2: Unsee that it's a dragon fly. Now I'm sorry, I
40:50
Speaker 2: can I literally cannot keep going.
40:55
Speaker 3: Had this is where the Wizard of Oz moment was.
40:58
Speaker 3: Was when they're getting ready to leave the end and
41:01
Speaker 3: they have their nice little moment. He puts the hat
41:03
Speaker 3: on her, they kiss. Yeah, that was And I'm not
41:08
Speaker 3: even a team Logan person, it was.
41:10
Speaker 1: I was choked. But I mean, for those four three guys,
41:15
Speaker 1: Finn and I'm sorry, the Dames, Sister and Robert, Robert,
41:20
Speaker 1: Colin Finn just impeccable work. I mean, it was just
41:26
Speaker 1: perfect that the blocking, the timing, the delivery of all
41:31
Speaker 1: the lines. It was just the.
41:35
Speaker 2: Way that they move is so good but smooth, like yeah,
41:39
Speaker 2: they were.
41:40
Speaker 1: It was like it was like a brilliantly rehearsed Broadway play.
41:44
Speaker 2: I totally the five, all five of them, Matt, Alexis
41:48
Speaker 2: and then the three guys. They really nail every moment.
41:51
Speaker 2: And in my mind, I know it's not like that's this,
41:54
Speaker 2: but in my mind it's one long, ongoing shot that
41:59
Speaker 2: just never stops that it's just like here they come
42:03
Speaker 2: in the mass and out she goes and oh my gosh,
42:06
Speaker 2: and into the car and the back of that rumble
42:08
Speaker 2: seat and boom, boom boom, and we're in the club
42:10
Speaker 2: and it's a damn And to me, it just was
42:13
Speaker 2: like the whole thing flowed, like, oh, I just I
42:17
Speaker 2: love that scene. I know people there's not but.
42:20
Speaker 4: I love magical about the Life and Death Brigade. There's
42:24
Speaker 4: just some magic that it just brings to this show.
42:27
Speaker 4: Even back in the original series, especially during this this episode.
42:32
Speaker 3: It's Yeah, I didn't really care for them in the
42:35
Speaker 3: original series because they just to me, they just came
42:38
Speaker 3: off like spoiled brats. But in this I loved them,
42:42
Speaker 3: Like I totally love the scenes with them.
42:45
Speaker 2: I loved them from the start, but I love them
42:47
Speaker 2: in this And I love how they dragged in the
42:48
Speaker 2: lady from the paper. Yeah they got her all flash light. Now,
42:55
Speaker 2: Jackie's saying the scene took a few months to shoot,
42:57
Speaker 2: But I don't see how that's possible since the whole
43:00
Speaker 2: he guys only shot the whole series for a few months,
43:03
Speaker 2: she says, because of schedule.
43:05
Speaker 1: I mean they did it intermittently.
43:06
Speaker 2: They know, they did it over throughout. They didn't shoot
43:10
Speaker 2: it all like shoot a.
43:11
Speaker 1: Piece here and a piece there and a piece there. Yeah,
43:14
Speaker 1: it was a three and a half month shoot. By
43:15
Speaker 1: the way, for all well, Matt.
43:17
Speaker 2: Was really a part of this entire four movies, you know,
43:22
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like Matt was like Milo, right, It's
43:27
Speaker 2: like Matt is really integrated into this whole thing, Like
43:31
Speaker 2: I know how at the very end, it's like Lauren Graham,
43:35
Speaker 2: Alexis Bludell, Scott Patterson, and Emily Bishop it's like Matt
43:39
Speaker 2: really deserved to be right after that, and I know
43:42
Speaker 2: you couldn't put him in there, but like he's very
43:46
Speaker 2: major in these movies. Yeah.
43:52
Speaker 3: So then after that, then it cuts back to this,
43:56
Speaker 3: the the second attempt to hike the trail, and now
44:02
Speaker 3: we see this Peter Krause. Yeah, yeah, as the park
44:07
Speaker 3: ranger irritated me a lot.
44:09
Speaker 2: Less this time. The first time I was so irritated
44:13
Speaker 2: by this scene.
44:14
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, she forgot her registration or whatever.
44:17
Speaker 2: It's just like it just goes on and on. But
44:20
Speaker 2: this time I was like, that's kind of fine, and
44:22
Speaker 2: I love Peter Krause.
44:23
Speaker 1: Was cute.
44:24
Speaker 3: Another another Parenthood reference. I always this scene always makes
44:28
Speaker 3: me laugh because, like personal story here, my husband is
44:34
Speaker 3: a scout master for our Boy Scout Troop. My oldest
44:37
Speaker 3: is about to get his Eagle Scout and he goes
44:41
Speaker 3: to the meetings. He puts on the boy Scout uniform.
44:44
Speaker 3: I tell him he looks like a park ranger.
44:48
Speaker 2: And so every time is he's you.
44:51
Speaker 3: Know, leaving the to go to the meetings and he's like,
44:53
Speaker 3: you know, i'll be back in an hour. I'm like,
44:54
Speaker 3: all right, park, and oh, it's just kind of that's
44:58
Speaker 3: funny in our house. With both of the ranger scenes,
45:10
Speaker 3: the physical comedy from Lauren, I thought was hilarious, Like
45:13
Speaker 3: she's trying to wrangle this giant backpack and she bends
45:15
Speaker 3: over and the whole thing falls over her head. I
45:19
Speaker 3: thought those scenes were funny.
45:20
Speaker 1: I thought there was a lot of comedic value there,
45:23
Speaker 1: a lot of comedic stuff on her own, just with
45:26
Speaker 1: a backpack, right exactly, Yeah, yeah, she really pulled it off.
45:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then uh so then she we.
45:37
Speaker 3: See the Halfway House cafe, which is another thing that
45:41
Speaker 3: was from Parenthood. Actually when oh really yeah, when I
45:45
Speaker 3: can't remember the daughter's name, May Whitman's character when she
45:48
Speaker 3: ran away, that was where they found her.
45:51
Speaker 2: Par It's a great show, by the way, I don't
45:53
Speaker 2: know if aout that. I loved it so good, you'll
45:56
Speaker 2: cry like a baby. It's kind of this is Us
45:58
Speaker 2: before this is Us. Yeah, watched it could could fly
46:04
Speaker 2: because Parenthood locked or whatever. The saying is like yeah, yeah, yeah.
46:08
Speaker 3: And so this is where where we have the scene
46:11
Speaker 3: with the monologue about Lorelai and Richard the mall great moment.
46:18
Speaker 3: We just talked about that. Oh, and she talked about
46:21
Speaker 3: the one of the movies they watched was An Unmarriaged Woman,
46:25
Speaker 3: which was a Kelly Bishop movie, so it was kind of.
46:28
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
46:29
Speaker 1: Jill Clayburg.
46:32
Speaker 3: Jill Clayburg, Wow, I didn't see it. Maybe it's from
46:37
Speaker 3: that era. I laughed. When she goes up to the
46:41
Speaker 3: cafe and she tries the door knob and it's locked,
46:44
Speaker 3: and then she's like, I hate nature.
46:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's doing wild.
46:49
Speaker 2: These scenes played much better this round than they did
46:52
Speaker 2: for me when I watched it eight years ago. It's like,
46:55
Speaker 2: all just better.
46:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the first time you watch it, you're just
47:00
Speaker 3: so thrown off by how different it is, and then
47:02
Speaker 3: the second time you're kind of like over that.
47:03
Speaker 2: And yes, yes, I.
47:07
Speaker 1: Said, that's the first time I've seen it. I wasn't
47:09
Speaker 1: thrown at all. I was. I was delighted by it.
47:12
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for I was so happy for it,
47:15
Speaker 1: you know.
47:18
Speaker 3: And I love this scene like that whole, the whole.
47:22
Speaker 3: Lauren was great in this scene. And then the one thing,
47:25
Speaker 3: and I don't know that this scene would have been
47:27
Speaker 3: the place to put it in, could have gone somewhere else.
47:29
Speaker 3: The one resolution I feel like we didn't get was
47:34
Speaker 3: any kind of acknowledgment from Emily of her role in
47:40
Speaker 3: any of the problems with Laura.
47:42
Speaker 1: I oh, I think that's I think that's just at
47:47
Speaker 1: this point, that would be cruel.
47:49
Speaker 2: I think we're just the I think that's asking to
47:51
Speaker 2: be And that's what I said.
47:52
Speaker 3: I don't think this scene was the place for that.
47:55
Speaker 3: But nowhere in the revival. I just mean, for me,
47:58
Speaker 3: that's an unresolved.
48:00
Speaker 2: Thing, correct, because she's not going to be different, Like
48:03
Speaker 2: it's not like when we see these people again. It's
48:04
Speaker 2: not like Emily is just suddenly going to be the
48:06
Speaker 2: perfect mother to me. If there was some sort of
48:08
Speaker 2: acknowledgment of it, it would just come across trite. The
48:12
Speaker 2: most we got was in the we get a little
48:16
Speaker 2: we get little glimpses of that, and then I think
48:19
Speaker 2: we get a little glimpse of that when she wants
48:22
Speaker 2: the money to expand the in But Emily's not going
48:25
Speaker 2: to become a different person.
48:28
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
48:29
Speaker 3: That's not what I'm asking for. I don't want Emily
48:31
Speaker 3: to become a different person. I just would have liked
48:35
Speaker 3: for her to acknowledge that maybe she made lorealized life
48:38
Speaker 3: difficult once in a while.
48:40
Speaker 4: I just don't think she would be the person to.
48:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like she's not the person to she'd
48:44
Speaker 5: throw it under the rug. But I don't think she'd
48:46
Speaker 5: ever come and be like it was my fault. I
48:48
Speaker 5: just don't think.
48:51
Speaker 3: Again, Okay, I.
48:54
Speaker 4: Understand what you actually do. Understand what you're saying. I
48:56
Speaker 4: think the moment with the phone call did that for me.
49:00
Speaker 4: I think it kind of like made them at peace.
49:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she says thank you, right, well, she I
49:07
Speaker 3: mean she got an apology from Laura I, which is
49:10
Speaker 3: basically what that whole call was was, you know, in
49:13
Speaker 3: a kind of an apology from Laura I. Well, Carline
49:19
Speaker 3: put all that out there, and then Emily said thank you,
49:23
Speaker 3: which I guess is all we can expect from her.
49:25
Speaker 3: But I didn't feel like she gave anything back to
49:28
Speaker 3: Laura I.
49:28
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I think the most we could expect,
49:32
Speaker 1: I think it would even almost be too much, is
49:35
Speaker 1: if we knew as an audience that she was beginning
49:39
Speaker 1: to start that conversation or she was starting to open
49:42
Speaker 1: up a little bit before she even said anything, and
49:44
Speaker 1: then stopped herself. Right. I think that's I think that
49:48
Speaker 1: stays true to her character. I do. I do agree
49:50
Speaker 1: with you though, that it could have been a very
49:52
Speaker 1: powerful moment had she done it. But it's like, where
49:56
Speaker 1: is she going to do it? When is she going
49:58
Speaker 1: to do it, because I think after she loses Richard,
50:02
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to you know, call her onto
50:05
Speaker 1: the carpet and say, apologize for what you've been.
50:09
Speaker 2: We got what we could get.
50:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, obviously I'm not the writer, so
50:14
Speaker 3: I don't know where I would have put it, But
50:16
Speaker 3: it just would have been nice to, you know, talking
50:18
Speaker 3: about how this whole episode is about resolutions and closing
50:22
Speaker 3: the loop.
50:22
Speaker 2: And I just would have liked to have just like
50:26
Speaker 2: throw me a bone on that, like, just you know
50:28
Speaker 2: a lot, I think.
50:29
Speaker 1: But I think that's what Laurel. I did it.
50:30
Speaker 4: It it.
50:32
Speaker 1: Released. She was releasing Emily from any obligation to do
50:37
Speaker 1: that in the future because of the intimate nature of
50:41
Speaker 1: the and the length of that story and the emotion
50:43
Speaker 1: attached to it. And I think that's the reaction gave
50:47
Speaker 1: was one of pure delight and relief, and she was
50:52
Speaker 1: completely moved and it was all sins are forgiven. That
50:58
Speaker 1: that speech was all sins are forgiven on both sides
51:02
Speaker 1: and now we can start anew You know, it's like
51:06
Speaker 1: maybe the first moment I've ever seen those two, maybe
51:10
Speaker 1: before the bad stuff happened when she was fifteen or sixteen,
51:15
Speaker 1: where there it was a moment of just utter motherly
51:20
Speaker 1: love and open heartedness toward her daughter. Yeah.
51:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess I just have it different.
51:29
Speaker 1: Incredibly and incredibly powerful moment, incredibly and great acting from
51:34
Speaker 1: from Kelly. The nonverbal stuff is just the hardest, so great. Yeah. Wow,
51:44
Speaker 1: all right.
51:45
Speaker 3: So then we go back to Luke and Laurelai's kitchen
51:48
Speaker 3: and the scene where Luke is cooking the steak for this.
51:51
Speaker 2: Is such an amazing scene. Scott, you are no good
51:57
Speaker 2: in this.
52:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I Scott. I'll let you talk about
52:04
Speaker 3: the scene because this was probably some of the most
52:06
Speaker 3: powerful Luke material in the entire series.
52:12
Speaker 1: I think the hard the hard part was on Lauren.
52:16
Speaker 1: You know, the difficult part about like when Lauren would
52:22
Speaker 1: deliver a speech to me, right, the many long speeches
52:26
Speaker 1: she would she would deliver to me, What you don't
52:30
Speaker 1: want to do as a scene partner is screw her up, right,
52:35
Speaker 1: because you have a little word here and there that
52:38
Speaker 1: can often She had.
52:39
Speaker 2: Those sort of funny comedy relief moments, right, and and she.
52:44
Speaker 1: The balance of it and the timing of it is
52:46
Speaker 1: all so crucial so as not to step on what
52:50
Speaker 1: I'm saying and keep the momentum going, but also get
52:53
Speaker 1: in you know, her intention, which is equally as important
52:57
Speaker 1: as the you know, the chunks of dialogue that I
52:59
Speaker 1: am saying. And she did it beautifully and it really
53:02
Speaker 1: made the scene fly. So it's thank you for the
53:06
Speaker 1: nice comments. It was a tough scene to do, you know,
53:09
Speaker 1: it's a very emotional thing, but it was easy. It
53:13
Speaker 1: was much easier because I knew I had a partner
53:16
Speaker 1: who could knows what the shot is that I'm making
53:21
Speaker 1: and hits the ball back where I can continue, We
53:24
Speaker 1: can continue to volley the ball back and forth. And
53:29
Speaker 1: that's what she's also so good at, which is why
53:32
Speaker 1: those scenes really pop. So I commend her for being
53:39
Speaker 1: so astute and so focused and so concentrated, because you
53:41
Speaker 1: really have to focus harder not to trip the other
53:46
Speaker 1: actor up when they have volumes of dialogue that they
53:49
Speaker 1: have to execute, you know it.
53:51
Speaker 2: And they have to be in a certain like mindset
53:54
Speaker 2: or place because it's so emotional and you feel like,
53:56
Speaker 2: I just thought that scene is so good, and I
53:59
Speaker 2: actually her little sort of like moments of it where
54:03
Speaker 2: she's kind of being a little bit funny and like
54:06
Speaker 2: it's just just so good.
54:07
Speaker 1: From thee From a technical point of view, what she
54:11
Speaker 1: had to deal with was not get distracted by what
54:14
Speaker 1: I was saying, but feel it because she has to
54:17
Speaker 1: feel it as the character, but not miss her cues
54:20
Speaker 1: because she had a bunch of cues in there where
54:22
Speaker 1: she had to throw in a line or a look
54:23
Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, And it's hard when somebody's you know,
54:27
Speaker 1: delivering with with real intensity something coming at you, it's
54:32
Speaker 1: easy to get caught up in that and get lost
54:34
Speaker 1: and oh shoot, I forgot my line, so sorry, well
54:37
Speaker 1: we'll have to do it again. You get that, So
54:40
Speaker 1: it's able to split focus within how you're focusing and
54:45
Speaker 1: and staying character, but while still being technical. It's it's
54:49
Speaker 1: it's incredibly difficult, and she just did such a great job,
54:52
Speaker 1: such a boat.
54:53
Speaker 5: How many times did you guys have to do that?
54:55
Speaker 1: Do you remember? It was a few, Yeah, it was
54:58
Speaker 1: a few. I remember being quite aust after that. But yeah,
55:02
Speaker 1: but you know Amy as a director, you know, you
55:06
Speaker 1: know she knows which moments are going to be really
55:10
Speaker 1: you know, the fireworks moments, and you really want to
55:14
Speaker 1: nail those. And I don't know that we did it.
55:19
Speaker 1: I think we did three or four takes, five takes
55:21
Speaker 1: maybe at the most, because it was going well. I
55:24
Speaker 1: remember it was going well right from the beginning. But
55:27
Speaker 1: there's always little adjustments and things like that, you know. Yeah,
55:30
Speaker 1: so there's some lighting things. There's always lighting issues and
55:35
Speaker 1: that's to be expected. But it went very very smoothly,
55:38
Speaker 1: very well that scene. Yeah, yeah, actually fun to do.
55:42
Speaker 2: And it's such a nice resolution in that scene, and
55:45
Speaker 2: I'm so glad, like that's not the end of the show, right,
55:49
Speaker 2: Like it's like it's so cool that you're like, oh,
55:52
Speaker 2: what a relief, and then we get to have some fun,
55:55
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean?
55:56
Speaker 3: Like that was sort of how I know, because at first,
55:59
Speaker 3: like the first time you watch it, you don't know
56:01
Speaker 3: what she's gonna say.
56:02
Speaker 2: You don't know, like here we go again.
56:05
Speaker 3: See I'm out of here, like I'm leaving, Like you
56:07
Speaker 3: don't know what conclusion she has reached inside her head.
56:10
Speaker 3: And so then when she says I think we should
56:12
Speaker 3: get married, then you're like, yes, yeah, so yeah, that
56:16
Speaker 3: was that was a great scene. And then he's got
56:18
Speaker 3: he's still got the same engagement ring and he gives
56:21
Speaker 3: it back to her and I thought that was cute
56:24
Speaker 3: and he.
56:24
Speaker 4: Just had a handy yeah, right there waiting for that moment.
56:32
Speaker 1: All right, gang, we're loving Fall so much, we're gonna
56:35
Speaker 1: split it up into two because we can't stop gab it.
56:37
Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna bring part one to an
56:40
Speaker 1: end and stay tuned for part two. Hey, everybody tell again.
57:12
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