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How To Be Stronger Than You Have Ever Been - Revisited · Suze Orman's Women & Money (And Everyone Smart Enough To Listen)

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  Robert: November 30th, 2025. Welcome to the Women in Money podcast
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  Robert: as well as everyone smart enough to listen. Hi, everybody,
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  Robert: I'm Robert, the producer, and we hope you are enjoying
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  Robert: the long Thanksgiving weekend. And if you are able to,
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  Robert: seeing friends and family and most importantly, getting some rest.
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  Robert: In fact, we're doing the exact same thing here at
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  Robert: the Women and Money Podcast, seeing friends and family, and today,
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  Robert: getting some rest.
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  Robert: Now, just because we don't have a brand new episode
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  Robert: for you, doesn't mean that you don't get to hear
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  Robert: Suze and KT on this last day of November 2025.
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  Robert: We're gonna play for you part of an episode that
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  Robert: we released last Thanksgiving, because the core message inside is
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  Robert: really important and it's something that we feel should be
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  Robert: at the top of your feed, especially as we head
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  Robert: into the next batch of year-end holidays. And now, here's Suze.
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  Suze: Now today we're gonna do something that we did before
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  Suze: but we're gonna do it again. It's going to be
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  Suze: a conversation. Recently I got an email because I read
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  Suze: the emails along with KT.
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  KT: It's about family.
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  KT: And it's about the awkward and the difficult and the
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  KT: sadder side of what families may experience or go through,
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  KT: especially the child with the parent.
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  Suze: When it comes to money.
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  KT: Oh, absolutely that's why we're here, Suze.
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  Suze: So sit down with us, relax, and I want you
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  Suze: to participate in this conversation as well. I want you
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  Suze: to ask yourselves the question, how would you answer it?
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  Suze: How do you feel about it?
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  Suze: And maybe it can give you some insight to also
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  Suze: open up a conversation with your entire family and see
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  Suze: how they feel about it on the reverse side as well.
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  Suze: All right, KT?
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  KT: So this is from Cecilia, a daughter. She wrote, Dear
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  KT: Suze and KT, your guidance is a blessing, and I'm
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  KT: so thankful you are a channel for good in the world.
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  KT: You often address parental questions around how to wisely act
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  KT: for future generations, but what about family situations in which
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  KT: the parents are financially irresponsible? Is there a financial obligation
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  KT: of the child towards the parent, or is it primarily
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  KT: the parent towards the child?
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  KT: My parents have been in debt and financially irresponsible my
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  KT: entire life, even needing to borrow money from me in
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  KT: my youth. Now listen to this, everyone, and think about this.
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  KT: I still remember at age 6 my little yet precious
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  KT: savings taken.
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  KT: I've had to in many ways raise myself and teach
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  KT: myself how to be responsible with money. 30 years later,
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  KT: I'm now an adult, and they still just want to take.
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  KT: So Cecilia's obviously referencing her parents. She said, I've tried
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  KT: to guide them, even recommending your podcast, Suze, but they
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  KT: cannot improve and apply any knowledge for change.
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  KT: So Cecilia has a problem, right, Suze, she said. Our
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  KT: relationship has grown ever distant as they judge all my
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  KT: actions with a monetary mindset. Their competitive nature is incessantly
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  KT: sizing me up and seeing how they could benefit, even
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  KT: if I wasn't in a position truly able to give.
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  KT: They see all of my actions as having so much
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  KT: more than them because they are in such a place
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  KT: of lack.
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  KT: So, that's a very awkward place for Cecilia to be in. So, Suze,
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  KT: how can I balance giving while not playing the role
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  KT: of the parent as your mantra starts with: people first.
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  KT: If I don't give, I can feel guilty, and if
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  KT: I do give, then I feel taken advantage of and
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  KT: like I'm perpetuating an endless cycle. I understand there's a
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  KT: financial obligation parents have towards their children, having brought them
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  KT: into this world, but is there any
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  KT: reverse obligation or can I feel free of their expectations
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  KT: towards me? I especially find myself concerned as they inch
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  KT: closer to retirement ages and don't have much of any
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  KT: sufficient nest for all those years to come. Suze, thank
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  KT: you for your care and help. Please tell me what
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  KT: to do, Cecilia.
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  Suze: So, KT, you just read that letter.
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  Suze: We're not answering her questions yet. I'm curious as to
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  Suze: how it made you personally feel. What did it bring
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  Suze: up for you?
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  KT: Wow, Suz e, it made me feel so lucky, privileged, loved,
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  KT: cared for. It made me feel as opposite to what
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  KT: Cecilia has experienced throughout her life.
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  Suze: And loved by who?
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  KT: My parents, my family, my siblings, so supportive.
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  KT: My parents so did without in order to take care
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  KT: of six children, and I didn't...
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  Suze: But they were responsible.
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  KT: Totally responsible, but I didn't know how much they actually
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  KT: gave up till I became an adult. I did not
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  KT: really understand that. Why? Because I think kids are young
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  KT: and selfish.
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  Suze: All right. And the reason that I ask you that, KT,
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  Suze: is that even more than me, truthfully, obviously I spent
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  Suze: a lot of money on my mother and everything.
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  Suze: But it was a very different thing with me and
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  Suze: my mother.
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  Suze: You loved that you could help your mother. You wanted,
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  Suze: you wanted to help your mother and father. Now was
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  Suze: it your responsibility to do so, or was it your
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  Suze: desire to do so because of how they took care
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  Suze: of you and how responsible they were financially growing up?
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  KT: We never any of us felt that we were responsible.
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  KT: Because they never put us in that position ever.
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  Suze: So then it was a joy for you to give
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  Suze: to them.
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  KT: Oh my God, it was something that not only we
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  KT: looked forward to, but I worked really hard because I
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  KT: wanted to give them something special or
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  KT: thank them in a way that I knew they could
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  KT: never have for themselves.
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  Suze: And then because they were so responsible with money as
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  Suze: they got older and they got sick and your father
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  Suze: had a stroke, all these things that happened, right.
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  Suze: One of the happiest things in your life was being
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  Suze: able to get your mommy a home, make sure she
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  Suze: had a private aid, do all these things for her.
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  Suze: And that was like because I remember the day she
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  Suze: died you were so thrilled that we did such a
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  Suze: good job that she still had $60,000 left so that
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  Suze: all the kids, not you, but could get $15,000 each
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  Suze: immediately because she had a will and a trust in everything.
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  Suze: Do you remember that feeling? All right.
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  Suze: Cecilia, did you just hear that?
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  Suze: Obviously, it is a parent's responsibility, bar none.
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  Suze: To take care of their children, nourish their children, educate
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  Suze: their children so that they can grow up and learn
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  Suze: how to thrive in this world of ours. It is
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  Suze: their responsibility to do so.
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  Suze: It seems like they did a pretty good job with you.
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  Suze: And why is that? Because you saw by their behavior
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  Suze: how you did not want to do that. I just
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  Suze: want you to all put a pin in that for
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  Suze: a second. You said something in this email that I
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  Suze: found so fascinating, and I don't know if you remember this, KT.
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  Suze: I have a thing with the 9 Steps to Financial Freedom,
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  Suze: which was the best book I've ever written, bar none,
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  Suze: and the whole book's premise to begin with is your
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  Suze: first childhood money memory determines what happens to you in life.
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  Suze: I went around and I started to ask a question,
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  Suze: not to 10 people, not to 50 people, thousands of people.
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  Suze: Could they ever remember
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  Suze: mommy or daddy taking money from your piggy bank and
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  Suze: not paying you back.
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  Suze: Well...
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  Suze: Everybody, even if they're incredibly wealthy today, whatever, that one
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  Suze: action of taking money from a piggy bank.
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  Suze: And not replacing it scarred them, but it did, KT, right?
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  Suze: But it was that one memory that also spurred all
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  Suze: those people to go and save money on their own
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  Suze: and be responsible for it on their own. So even
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  Suze: though that's a hurtful action and memory that you have,
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  Suze: I would almost guarantee you that it is that one
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  Suze: action plus many after that.
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  Suze: That has made you the successful woman you are today.
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  Suze: So sometimes when we look in our past.
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  Suze: You have to not dwell in the sadness of your past.
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  Suze: You have to dwell in the happiness of who you
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  Suze: are right now.
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  Suze: And how you feel about yourself right now. So that
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  Suze: was for you, Cecilia. KT, with that said, I just
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  Suze: have to go back again,
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  Suze: to answer Cecilia's number one question, is it the responsibility
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  Suze: of a child to take care of their parents if
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  Suze: the parents have been totally irresponsible with money and doing
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  Suze: things with it, that's like throwing it out? Is it?
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  KT: No.
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  Suze: There you go, I agree with that.
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  Suze: Would it be any different?
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  Suze: If your parents were drug addicts, because I've gone through
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  Suze: this many times with people, they're drug addicts, they're alcoholics,
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  Suze: they're gamblers, and they have no money, and they always
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  Suze: want the money from the kids so they can go
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  Suze: back to the gambling. They have nothing, nothing.
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  Suze: Would you give them the money then?
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  KT: I would give them intervention, but I would not give
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  KT: them money. I'd give them intervention. That's a responsibility.
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  Suze: But Cecilia.
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  Suze: Would you feel guilty not giving them money if that
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  Suze: money was leading to the destruction of who they are drugs, alcohol, gambling?
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  Suze: I want you to seriously think about that. I think
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  Suze: it would be a lot easier, KT, for Cecilia to go, Mom,
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  Suze: I'm not giving you the money for you to go
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  Suze: drink yourself to death.
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  Suze: It's she could rationalize that, right? It's very hard to
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  Suze: rationalize not giving when when they're just irresponsible, which means
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  Suze: they spend money they don't invest it, they don't take
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  Suze: care of themselves.
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  Suze: Do you agree with that?
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  KT: Yeah, I do agree with it. I, that's why I'm
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  KT: saying I think that Cecilia's difficulty here, Suze, is that
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  KT: it looks like she's the only source. She's the only
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  KT: money pit.
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  Suze: I have a feeling she's the only child.
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  KT: Yeah, I think she's the only money pit, which is
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  KT: why she's really in turmoil about how do I do this.
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  Suze: All right, so, obviously you see where this is going, Cecilia.
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  Suze: Number one, we're gonna hopefully talk you off
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  Suze: the wall of guilt. We're gonna talk you off the
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  Suze: wall of feeling that it's your responsibility and we're gonna
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  Suze: talk to you on the wall of putting people first,
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  Suze: then money, then things because the first thing I have
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  Suze: to straighten out is this when I say people first,
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  Suze: I do not mean other people. I do not mean
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  Suze: go out and take care of the world. I mean
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  Suze: you have got to take care of yourself.
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  Suze: Maybe I need to change that to you first, then money,
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  Suze: then things, but Cecilia, the people I'm talking about in
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  Suze: that phrase is you.
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  Suze: So you have to put yourself before money. You have
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  Suze: to put yourself into a situation where you feel good
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  Suze: about every action that you take. That's number one. Number two, again,
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  Suze: I go back to this. How many years have I
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  Suze: been saying that you and your money are one? If
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  Suze: you give your money away.
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  Suze: To somebody who wastes it, what you are doing is
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  Suze: you are giving a part of yourself away to your parents.
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  Suze: Not money, that's true, that's the vehicle, but you and
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  Suze: your money are one. Money is a physical manifestation of
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  Suze: who you are.
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  Suze: So the reason that you feel so bad about this,
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  Suze: in my opinion, is that you are disrespecting yourself.
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  Suze: You are giving a part of yourself away which actually
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  Suze: hurts more than giving money.
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  Suze: If that made sense, did that make sense to you, KT?
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  KT: Yeah, I think it does make a whole lot of
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  KT: sense to me, but I want the listeners to really
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  KT: understand what you're trying to do to help her.
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  Suze: All right, so now I will get to that.
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  Suze: Hopefully we have answered the question.
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  Suze: Parents need and must be responsible for their children.
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  Suze: In my opinion, in KT's opinion, some of you may disagree,
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  Suze: there is no mandate that a child is responsible for
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  Suze: a parent who is absolutely disrespectful of money, only loves
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  Suze: me for money, any of those things now.
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  Suze: When a parent gets old, they've been respectful, they've loved you,
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  Suze: they've honored their money, they've done everything they can that's
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  Suze: another story, you know what's funny, KT, what I'm thinking
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  Suze: of as I say this how many parents, even if
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  Suze: they're grandparents now, they're old and they still have their
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  Suze: children alive, right, say.
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  Suze: I don't want to be a burden on my family.
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  KT: Oh, many. They all do.
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  Suze: Think about it, everybody. Do any of you want to
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  Suze: be a burden on your children? And I can tell you,
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  Suze: if you love your children, the answer to that is no.
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  Suze: A lot of times I talk to people and I go,
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  Suze: why don't you just take a little vacation? Why can't
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  Suze: you just get a little bit newer car so it
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  Suze: doesn't break down on you in the middle of the
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  Suze: night or whatever it is? And they say, no, I'm
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  Suze: saving every penny for my kids. I want my kids
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  Suze: to have everything.
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  Suze: Cecilia, that's how loving parents think. They don't look at
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  Suze: their kids as a money ticket. They don't make their
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  Suze: kids feel bad.
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  Suze: So, if you choose
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  Suze: to give money away, right? You cannot feel like you
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  Suze: are being taken advantage of them, and I'm quoting your
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  Suze: email right now.
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  Suze: You have to feel like you are disrespecting yourself.
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  Suze: Did you hear what I just said, Cecilia? This isn't
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  Suze: about they have so much power that they could take
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  Suze: advantage of you, so you give them money.
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  Suze: Only you have the power to make a decision what
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  Suze: you do with money, what you do with your life.
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  Suze: So, number one, you have got to get this concept
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  Suze: of they're taking advantage of you if you give them
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  Suze: money out of your mind. What else would I tell
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  Suze: you to do?
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  Suze: The first thing I would tell you to do, believe
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  Suze: it or not, is I would go see them. I
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  Suze: would sit down with them.
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  Suze: And I would look them right in the eye, and
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  Suze: maybe you tell them to listen to this podcast or
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  Suze: that you want to play this podcast for them.
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  Suze: Sit with them and let them listen to this podcast.
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  Suze: They don't want to find no problem. You go over
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  Suze: and you sit with them and you say, Mom and Dad,
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  Suze: I love you very much. However, I am letting you
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  Suze: know from this day on I am not giving you
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  Suze: any more money.
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  Suze: If you need food, I'll go get food for you
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  Suze: and give you food.
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  Suze: But make it clear to them that the Bank of
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  Suze: Cecilia is closed no matter what they say, no matter
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  Suze: how bad off they get, you have to be strong
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  Suze: enough to let them hit rock bottom, cause I have
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  Suze: found over my 40 years of doing this change doesn't
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  Suze: come easy.
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  Suze: And change normally comes financially speaking when the people have
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  Suze: hit rock bottom they have no more credit lines, they
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  Suze: have nobody to go to to ask for money every
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  Suze: avenue of that financial river has been dammed up and
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  Suze: they are bone dry.
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  Suze: So...
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  Suze: That's what you have to do and you have to
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  Suze: be strong enough to do that.
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  KT: So, Suze, I agree with all of that, but I
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  KT: would have a slightly different approach. I would talk to
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  KT: my parents and I would let them know clearly that
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  KT: I don't feel good. I've been feeling very sad and
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  KT: very depressed and they say, why honey? I say, because
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  KT: I feel that you only want me around for my money.
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  KT: So therefore I need to feel that you love me
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  KT: for who I am. From this day forward, I'm gonna
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  KT: stop financing you or giving you money or bailing you out.
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  Suze: All right, you've, let's role play. You're Cecilia. I'm Mom.
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  Suze: You came to me and you just said that.
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  Suze: And I say that is not true. We love you
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  Suze: for who you are. We've never loved you for your money.
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  Suze: We've da da da da da because you have to understand, KT,
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  Suze: parents like this are in total denial anyway. You come
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  Suze: from a place because you are so sweet, so sweet,
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  Suze: and you actually don't know anything other than love.
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  Suze: So just remember KT comes from a family. She has
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  Suze: never experienced anything
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  Suze: but love in her life. How fabulous is that right?
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  KT: I know, very fabulous. That's what I'm always thankful for
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  KT: every day. So what I would do, mom, alright, you're
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  KT: my mom, right?
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  KT: I, I'm Cecilia.
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  Suze: I'm, I've, I've never felt that way about you. Why
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  Suze: do you say that? You're wrong.
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  KT: If you mean that, Mom, then starting today, I don't
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  KT: want you to ask for money. I'm not going to
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  KT: give you or Daddy any more money, but I did
• 20:08
  KT: come up with a couple ideas for you to help
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  KT: you when you get in those jams or to make
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  KT: ends meet.
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  KT: I think that you can do a couple of things
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  KT: to make money or to find money other than calling
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  KT: me for it. One is just...
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  Suze: Like what, Cecilia, look at this house. I have nothing here.
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  Suze: Look at everything around me.
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  KT: You have a lot of things and you can sell
• 20:31
  KT: things you don't use or need anymore.
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  Suze: Who would want to buy this junk?
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  KT: Well, a lot of people, you have a yard sale
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  KT: and you give it a shot. You can probably make
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  KT: about $50 100 dollars, who knows, but start with that, mom. Second,
• 20:45
  KT: you may want to downsize and live in a smaller,
• 20:48
  KT: more affordable place. And then there's the jobs. There's always
• 20:53
  KT: part-time work and jobs and opportunities that you can do
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  KT: on the side to try to make those ends meet.
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  KT: The only thing mom that and dad that I'm absolutely
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  KT: always gonna be there for you is to make sure
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  KT: that you're eating healthy and I can always assist you
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  KT: in providing a hot meal or maybe even come and
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  KT: cook for you once a month.
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  Suze: KT that was actually great.
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  Suze: But Cecilia, did you see how that went? Don't go
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  Suze: in there when you sit down expecting that your mother
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  Suze: and father are going to, for the first time in
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  Suze: your life, understand anything that you are saying. Yeah, they're gonna,
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  Suze: they won't embrace you with love.
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  KT: They're gonna probably get really mad. So, but here is
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  KT: be ready.
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  Suze: But here is why I want you to do it.
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  Suze: You aren't doing this for them.
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  Suze: You are doing this for yourself. You are doing this
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  Suze: so that you can be clear.
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  Suze: That you have set boundaries. You've said what you wanted
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  Suze: to say, that's that. You do it for yourself. If
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  Suze: they hear you fine. If they don't hear you, fine.
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  Suze: All that matters is you have a voice and you
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  Suze: said it. Remember I've said, your voice is your power,
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  Suze: and you need to switch from guilty...
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  Suze: to not guilty you need to switch from feeling taken
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  Suze: advantage of to knowing you're not being taken advantage of.
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  Suze: You cannot give out a guilt. If you give out
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  Suze: a guilt, then you have totally disrespected yourself as well.
• 22:39
  Suze: So you are going to have to become far stronger
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  Suze: than you have ever been. And why do I say that?
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  Suze: You have given to them out of weakness.
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  Suze: Not strength. You have given to them out of the
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  Suze: wrong reasons cause it's easier to give than to say no.
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  Suze: You now have to say no out of love for
• 23:03
  Suze: yourself versus yes out of fear.
• 23:07
  Suze: That they're not gonna like you, they're not gonna do this. Oh, please,
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  Suze: look at your relationship already. That would be our advice
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  Suze: to you.
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  Suze: Our advice where you stand in the truth of your
• 23:19
  Suze: own self respect, your own love, and your own thankfulness
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  Suze: for giving yourself a life where you are financially pretty
• 23:30
  Suze: much independent, you are doing things exactly how you want
• 23:34
  Suze: in your own life, and be thankful as well that
• 23:39
  Suze: you have parents like that.
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  Suze: Because that's what you have, so you might as well
• 23:44
  Suze: be thankful because look at the gifts they gave you,
• 23:49
  Suze: and the gifts that they gave you are gifts of self-independence.
• 23:57
  Suze: So that brings us to the end of this Suze
• 24:00
  Suze: and KT conversation. Did you enjoy that, KT?
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  KT: I did, but it's a little depressing.
• 24:06
  Suze: It's not depressing. It actually..
• 24:09
  KT: It's actually liberating, isn't it?
• 24:10
  Suze: It's liberating, but it's standing in your truth, and I
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  Suze: have to tell you, KT, this is not just one
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  Suze: person having this problem. There are hundreds of thousands of
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  Suze: people out there, maybe millions, which is why I chose
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  Suze: it for today.
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  Suze: Because I know that more of you will relate to
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  Suze: this than less of you, believe it or not. So therefore,
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  Suze: people first, and remember when I say that I mean you,
• 24:41
  Suze: then what KT?
• 24:42
  KT: Then money.
• 24:43
  Suze: Then things and if you do that, stay healthy, stay safe,
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  Suze: we promise you you will be unstoppable.