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A Doomed Sixers Season (PST Episode 593) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: What's going on, everybody. I hope you're doing well. It's
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  Speaker 1: Jeff here at the PST podcast show. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: let you know. This podcast episode was recorded on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: November twenty, twenty twenty four, so by the time you
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  Speaker 1: hear this, some things may have changed here or there,
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  Speaker 1: but we hope you enjoy the show. What's up, everybody
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  Speaker 1: here listening to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the
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  Speaker 1: longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world.
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  Speaker 1: That's right eleven and a half years strong. We got
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  Speaker 1: a great show coming to you this week. We got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of football talk right off the bat. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be revisiting our NFL predictions that we made before
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  Speaker 1: the regular season started. We're also gonna be talking about
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  Speaker 1: this Eagles team the remaining schedule. Might they actually be
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  Speaker 1: the top seed in the NFC? And then from there
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  Speaker 1: we gonna we're gonna get into some MLB Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame ballot talk as well, since the names just came
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  Speaker 1: out this week, and then we got a ton of
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  Speaker 1: Sixers talk. This freaking team is a mess. As we're
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  Speaker 1: recording this. As I mentioned right at the right at
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  Speaker 1: the top of this podcast episode, on November twentieth. Youre
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday night. This team is a mess, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about this mess.
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  Speaker 2: Of the Philadelphia seventy six ers on this episode.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Warren here, my good buddy Eric Leonard, Hey doing.
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  Speaker 3: Eric, I'm good. I'm good. Started started basketball up coaching. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: it's funny. Early in the season. I am very loud
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  Speaker 3: and dominant and just kind of, you know, setting the
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  Speaker 3: tone like you're not gonna talk back. You're twelve years old, now,
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  Speaker 3: don't give me your ship. I don't swear. Some of
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  Speaker 3: the kids are like farmers. They would lose it. They
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  Speaker 3: would like go home and be like, oh it's sad,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Doing the cross on their chest.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, gracious exactly. But I I've been losing
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  Speaker 3: my voice every night. Oh I am. I am like loud, loud.
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  Speaker 3: I really put on like a baritone and just kind
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  Speaker 3: of just make sure they understand, like you no smart talk,
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  Speaker 3: do whatever I tell you. I mean, I had one
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  Speaker 3: kid the other night last night. I always had a
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  Speaker 3: thing of mints and my phone on this desk. When
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  Speaker 3: I'm coaching, I'm doing a drill. I'm making sure they're
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  Speaker 3: all watching the night in I look back, this kid's
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  Speaker 3: sticking his fingers in my mint cake thing getting mints
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  Speaker 3: out without asking me. Dude, I've never made kids run
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  Speaker 3: so hard and tortured them. After I was just like,
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  Speaker 3: are you kidding me? And uh and then by the
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  Speaker 3: end I lost my voice. So tonight I actually had
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  Speaker 3: a good time, did an easy practice because I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to have my voice for the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Poor kids probably like coach, I just had bad breath.
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  Speaker 2: I just had bad breath.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they all do, they're all kids. They don't barely
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  Speaker 3: brush their teeth. Yeah, I was just like, Nevere, don't
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  Speaker 3: stick your greasy little hands. I don't know where thoseuld
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  Speaker 3: been in my mint my mint container. And uh just yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just the pump Hos city of twelve year olds. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like centered.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, Well, buddy, I do want to say too,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just the people that have been with us
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  Speaker 1: for so many years. You know, they hear about our families,
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  Speaker 1: and they hear about our kids every now and again.
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  Speaker 1: And we think your daughters picked her college that she's
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  Speaker 1: going to be going to. And you were in a
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  Speaker 1: certain city over this weekend. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: want to mention anything with it, but I just want
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  Speaker 1: to say congratulations. Look, you know, when you're a father,
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  Speaker 1: your parent and your kids are making life decisions, you know,
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  Speaker 1: even at a young age, you know, it's a it's
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  Speaker 1: a monumental moment and stuff. So I just congratulations to
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  Speaker 1: you and your family.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can say I think we're I'm like ninety
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  Speaker 3: percent sure she's going to choose Buffalo Home with the
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  Speaker 3: Buffalo Bulls horns up.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: And she she had her dance audition last Friday, killed it.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently she's already been offering an academic scholarship there. So
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  Speaker 3: awesome and it is wild. It's just like I was
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  Speaker 3: just holding you at the hospital window.
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  Speaker 1: She was just born at our wedding. Yeah, Michelle's at
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  Speaker 1: my wedding.
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  Speaker 3: She was a baby, like an she was like two
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  Speaker 3: months old. Yeah, it's really tiny, like you know, it
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  Speaker 3: was breastfeeding situations.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, and now she's going to be out of
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  Speaker 3: the house in less than the air.
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  Speaker 1: Now, my god, oh god. Well, congratulations to you and
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  Speaker 1: your family, buddy. Well look let's get into the show
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  Speaker 1: here too. I mean this, I have loved this football
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  Speaker 1: season so far. From an NFL perspective, because I think
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  Speaker 1: we are seeing some changes as we saw last year,
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  Speaker 1: where defenses are really starting to figure out offenses more,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's why you're seeing the run games
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  Speaker 1: so much more dominant in football. Yeah, of course it's
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  Speaker 1: still there and it's it's what the league wants. But
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  Speaker 1: the NFL is changing in a lot of different ways.
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  Speaker 1: And it's interesting when we go back and look at
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  Speaker 1: revisiting our NFL predictions for what teams were going to
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  Speaker 1: do this season in terms of winning the divisions and
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  Speaker 1: what teams might go or get wild card spots. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're pretty spot on so far with some of the predictions.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna kind of go through some of them right now,
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  Speaker 1: but i gotta say, man, the league is changing a bit,
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  Speaker 1: and I've really been enjoying this NFL season. I know
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  Speaker 1: I'm the football guy here on this podcast, but this
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  Speaker 1: season's been a little bit more enjoyable than other ones
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  Speaker 1: for me. I'm not sure how you're feeling about it.
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  Speaker 1: I know you don't get to see every single game,
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  Speaker 1: necessarily watch every single Sunday due to family commitments and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But I've been enjoying this football season so far.
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  Speaker 3: It's good. I mean the b two takeaways, one's positive
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  Speaker 3: and one is negative, but it created the last one
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  Speaker 3: creates a lot of comedy for me. My main thought
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  Speaker 3: offensively is running backs are back.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the the passing. It's a passing league now,
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  Speaker 3: of course, and that's never going to go away. But
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  Speaker 3: I can't I can't believe how good the running backs
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  Speaker 3: are and the fact that Derek Henry was just allowed
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  Speaker 3: to go to the Ravens. I mean, they paid him,
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  Speaker 3: but it was just like what Titans have you? Have
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  Speaker 3: you watched film yourself this year? Like what what do
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  Speaker 3: you think Saquon? I mean Aaron Jones and uh or
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  Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs with the Packers Aaron Jones. It's just really
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  Speaker 3: smart pickups and then they're they're kind of going in
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  Speaker 3: the running game because, like you said, the defense is
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  Speaker 3: getting so much better with the pass defense. But my
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  Speaker 3: my favorite takeway from the scene so far as there
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  Speaker 3: are so many bad coaches and bad front offices, but
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  Speaker 3: mainly the coaches in the league. I can't believe how
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  Speaker 3: bad some of the coaching is is and that only
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  Speaker 3: one coach I think so far has been fired Salah.
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  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Robert Sala.
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  Speaker 3: How has Mike McCarthy not been fired? How has the
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  Speaker 3: coach for the Panthers not been fired? Again? I mean
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  Speaker 3: they're paying like three other coaches right now, but I
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  Speaker 3: just can't. It is astronomically mind blowingly bad. The guy
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  Speaker 3: who coaches the Raiders, Yeah, I coach a better game
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  Speaker 3: than him.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Brian Dable, for god's sake, New York.
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  Speaker 3: It's horrible. And like Antonioppears for the Raiders. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 3: said after this last game that he was taking notes
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  Speaker 3: on the sideline. He should probably have those prepared before
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  Speaker 3: the game. I mean, like I as slowly hell, but
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  Speaker 3: it's made for such really comical, like like moments for me,
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  Speaker 3: like because I love bad coaching. Really, this is my
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  Speaker 3: own team. Yeah, we'll talk about they were the sixers.
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  Speaker 1: I think what's really interesting and maybe we'll get into
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  Speaker 1: it with when we revisit some of our predictions here,
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  Speaker 1: because there's one particular team in one particular coach I
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  Speaker 1: really want to talk about when we get into our
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  Speaker 1: wild cards for the AFC.
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  Speaker 2: But let we'll get to that in just a bit.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go down the list here of the AFC divisions.
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  Speaker 1: NFC divisions and how we did in terms of our predictions.
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  Speaker 1: So the AFC East, Eric, you had the Bills coming
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  Speaker 1: out on top that predictions looking good. Lennon myself had
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  Speaker 1: the Jets.
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  Speaker 3: Can I kind of be free continue? I'm looking through
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  Speaker 3: it now. I'm almost dead on man.
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  Speaker 2: You really are, Yeah, you really are.
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  Speaker 1: It's embarrassing for me because I'm I'm the football guy
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  Speaker 1: here and I'm like, oh boy, I really do think
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is gonna be able to take the Jets
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  Speaker 1: to the next level.
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  Speaker 3: Nope, he is just real quick minute on him and
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  Speaker 3: that whole saga like he's just he's just a disaster now,
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  Speaker 3: like he's just a poisonous player, a poisonous human being.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm time it was politics. He's just how he
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  Speaker 3: threw Mike Williams under the bus, how everyone around him
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  Speaker 3: is getting fired and burned alive and he just gets
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  Speaker 3: to sit back and be Aaron Rodgers and go on
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  Speaker 3: McAfee once a week. And how can you fire him?
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  Speaker 3: Is there a way to like you're fired, We're not
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  Speaker 3: paying you anymore, We're gonna take you to court, to
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  Speaker 3: take you to court, like he is such an awful
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  Speaker 3: like just said, what's the like Albatrotz.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, on that front, you use the word burned, like
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  Speaker 1: every everything around him is burning. Everything around Aaron Rodgers
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  Speaker 1: is burning to the ground basically, and it's like the
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  Speaker 1: Jets have to get out in front of this.
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  Speaker 2: They can't.
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  Speaker 1: They can't have him playing next year too. They can't
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  Speaker 1: or it's it's gonna set them up.
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  Speaker 3: He's making like fifty million.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean they can look, they can release him,
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  Speaker 1: and they gotta pay him, and they could go on
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  Speaker 1: go on McAfee's show every day.
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  Speaker 3: And that defense is was awesome last year, and this
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  Speaker 3: year they kind of suck. I don't think it's Roberts.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it was Robert sal I don't think
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  Speaker 3: it's the other coach. I think they're like, I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to Why am I busting my ass for this asshole? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: who can't score more than thirteen points a game. I
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  Speaker 3: really think he's just the centerpiece of the entire disaster
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  Speaker 3: of a franchiser.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. I agree.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you certainly nailed thus far the AFC East, the
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  Speaker 1: AFC North. You Len and myself we had the Ravens
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  Speaker 1: and that so far, pretty pretty decent.
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  Speaker 4: Pick.
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  Speaker 3: I think Steelers beat him.
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  Speaker 2: That is true. True.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know if I believe in the Steelers. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I'm there with them. I know they're
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  Speaker 1: one of the top teams in the league. You're like
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  Speaker 1: a power rankings and they're like top five. I get
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  Speaker 1: I get it, But I just don't know if I
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  Speaker 1: believe in them down the stretch.
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  Speaker 3: You know where I believe in them. Gambling, That's where
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  Speaker 3: I believe in the Steelers. They cover every week like
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  Speaker 3: they do defense. Always take the under. They're never gonna
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  Speaker 3: play a game more than twenty points. Always take Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I play a money line. Do the under. You're gonna
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  Speaker 3: win money. But I I can't. I can't trust them
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  Speaker 3: either with Russell Wilson and then Justin Fields as the
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  Speaker 3: backup quarter that that's very hard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, are right.
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  Speaker 1: The AFC South again, You, lenn and myself picked the Texans.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was kind of an easy pick.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: They're they're They're certainly not perfect by any stretch, but
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  Speaker 1: they're like a very scrappy team again this year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if you have something you want to say about them.
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  Speaker 3: I mean a lot of injuries right now for them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: any team that like crushes the Cowboys, Now, I don't
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  Speaker 3: I have no takeaways from that, because that team is
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  Speaker 3: a utter disaster, maybe worse than the Jets, honestly, because
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  Speaker 3: they're capped out, their quarterback is mediocre.
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  Speaker 2: They might be worse than the Panthers.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if they're worse than I mean, I think
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  Speaker 3: the coach is just as bad as the Panthers coach,
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  Speaker 3: and I think GM situation is probably worse, even though
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  Speaker 3: the Panthers GM situation is a disaster too. But Jerry
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  Speaker 3: Jones is never going to relinquish control, and he's never
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  Speaker 3: gonna allow a Belichick in the building or a Vaiable
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  Speaker 3: for that matter, because they're gonna want control of the
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  Speaker 3: whole thing. And he's like, no, you're gonna do this
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  Speaker 3: with me. They're gonna like nope. Oh nis. So it's
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  Speaker 3: it's a mess and they're capped out for like the
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  Speaker 3: next three years.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, good point, good point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Cowboys suck.
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  Speaker 1: AFC West. You lenon myself, we have the Chiefs. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's just self explanatory. Moving over the NFC East, you
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  Speaker 1: Len and myself had the Eagles. We know where the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles are right now at this point in a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good position the NFC North. Interestingly enough, Lenon my self,
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  Speaker 1: we're very much on board with you know, Jordan Love
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  Speaker 1: taking next steps and the Packers. We're going to be
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  Speaker 1: the division leaders at this point and when win the
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  Speaker 1: Division two. But man, you Eric, you picked the Lions
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  Speaker 1: and another great pick. I mean it, they look like
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  Speaker 1: they are going to be the division leaders because they're
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  Speaker 1: probably the number one or number two team in the
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  Speaker 1: NFC in general.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the number one team in the league. Honestly, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're they're they're They don't play down to their competition.
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  Speaker 3: They they crush teams when they're supposed to c Like
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  Speaker 3: the Jags come in town and that team's on the
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  Speaker 3: team's on the rope, its incredible, and they just destroy them.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like the Eagles to play the Jags and
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  Speaker 3: let him right back in the game in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 3: They did talk about bad coaching and Nick Siriani, I'll
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  Speaker 3: give him a break this week, but like you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's a little shaky, but like we let him back
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  Speaker 3: in the game. They put their foot to the throat
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  Speaker 3: to the Jags, and I think the I think the
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  Speaker 3: biggest game for me that to be a believer is
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  Speaker 3: when GoF through five interceptions I think two weeks ago
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  Speaker 3: and they still won the game. Still won the game, yep,
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  Speaker 3: Like that's you know. And they all talked him up
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  Speaker 3: after the game. They were like, no, he's our guy.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, Okay, that team is. The chemistry's right,
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  Speaker 3: the culture is correct, the coach is good, and they
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  Speaker 3: held everyone accountable like that. That that feels like a
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  Speaker 3: super Bowl team to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that very I had. I have them as a
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  Speaker 1: wildcard and we'll get to the wild cards in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: Because when you, Len and I were doing our season predictions,
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  Speaker 1: I remember this conversation. We were all just going back
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  Speaker 1: and forth. You could see the Packers, you know, winning
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  Speaker 1: the division, can see the Lions winning the division. We
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  Speaker 1: kind of just had to pick and choose. It was
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  Speaker 1: like a fifty to fifty coin toss at that point.
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  Speaker 1: But the NFC South, believe it or not, we all
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  Speaker 1: picked the Falcons, and I think it was because of
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  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and the fact that they actually had consistency
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  Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. So we all picked the Falcons.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 1: NFC West, Eric, you picked the Seahawks, and Lennon and
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  Speaker 1: I picked the forty nine ers, So I mean the
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Seahawks are looking pretty good at this point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that going to San fran and beating them twenty
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  Speaker 3: to seventeen, which killed one of my moneyline parlays this
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  Speaker 3: past weekend. Yeah, that's a shaky division. I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: Cardinals are in first place right now, but the Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: could very I think they play him twice still, they
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  Speaker 3: playing this weekend, and they could very easily win that division.
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  Speaker 3: That division kind of sucks, which is surprising.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does, all right, Well, looking at the wild
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  Speaker 1: cards and then we're gonna end this part of the
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  Speaker 1: discussion not going to get into AFC or NFC Championship
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  Speaker 1: or Super Bowls. We can do that another time. But
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  Speaker 1: are wild cards for the AFC. I had the Bills,
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals, and the Jaguars. Okay, Eric, you had the Jets,
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  Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 3: That's where I screwed up.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's one team where you Len and I screwed
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  Speaker 1: up big time in terms of the wild cards. And
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  Speaker 1: Len had the Bills, Dolphins, and Jaguars, And that's what
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about earlier is the Jaguars and
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: the coaching Doug Peterson. I'm surprised he hasn't been fired yet,
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  Speaker 1: but I gotta be honest, I do not believe Peterson
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  Speaker 1: is that terrible of a coach. And yes, maybe it
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  Speaker 1: is the bias that he took the Eagles to the
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl and got the Eagles their first super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: win along with a backup quarterback in Nick Foles. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: maybe that I have that bias, But I don't think
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  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson is that horrible of a coach. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: forgetting the years that he was here. After the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: how it just didn't go well with Carson Wentz. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not forgetting that. Yes, I am remembering Super Bowl. However,
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  Speaker 1: that is an awful organization down in Jacksonville. It is
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  Speaker 1: a terrible organization.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: They paid Trevor Lawrence what they paid him. I mean,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is being paid. I think he's like the
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  Speaker 1: third or fourth highest paid quarterback in the league. They
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: don't have any Yeah, they don't have any protection for
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: him on the offensive line. It's an absolute mess from
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: an offensive standpoint. Injuries across the board with wide receivers
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: throughout the season. Their defense absolutely stinks. They don't know
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: how to construct a team. If you don't know how
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: to construct a team from a front office standpoint, how
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: the hell do you expect your coach to actually be
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: able to games and put these guys in scheming positions.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: It's gonna come out with positive outcome, you know, It's
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: it's kind of bizarre to me.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: It's it's a mess of an organ that you're right,
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: And I mean it starts with like the personnel they
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: draft that Walker kid over Hutchinson two years ago. Yeah,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: terrible move like that. I just say, it was the
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: best defensive line that's which you needed and you made
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: the wrong pick that you pull. You're bringing Mac Jones
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: as your backup quarterback. Terrible, he sucks. We all know
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: that you gave Trevor Lawrence the contract, like every every
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: move they've made. And Trent Baki, I think is the
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: GM down there, and he has he's a good track
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: record for like a couple of years with the Niners,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: you know, but they had a good coach in Shanahan.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: And that's why I get to Doug p Doug PE's
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: not a good coach man. I'm sorry He's one of
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: the reasons he's one of the bad coaching things I
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: was talking about earlier. That makes me a laugh. Yeah,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: one of the two point conversion ship he does and
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: then he punts other times.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Very true.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: He's one of those guys. His first twelve plays are
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: awesome and then he goes white face. He's like what
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I do now in the second quarter, He's a mess.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: And I think even on like a good team, he
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: would still struggle as a coach. And then that's a
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: definite like Rabel Belichick spot landing spot next year, absolute
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: ringing somebody because they have a new stadium opening up.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: You got to drum up some uh you know some
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: uh what do you call it? Interest in there? So
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: just a mess, and I'm sorry. I think Doug p
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: was a I had one great season shooting star, and.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Then just went downhill. All right.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Wild cards for the NFC are predictions. Before the season started,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I had the Lions, the Rams, and the Commanders, the Coms,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the Commanders.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: And we had a conversation.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: You were like, really, you think the Commanders are gonna
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: be like you think Jade Daniels is going to be
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that good? And I remember telling you I said, yeah,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to be that good. In fact,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to be the best rookie quarterback
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. And I think he is doing that
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, probably the top candidate to
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: get NFL Rookie of the Year should be Quinn don Mitchell.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Quite frankly, it should. Uh. But defensive players very rarely
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: get that that bestowed upon them. Eric, you had the Rams,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: the Packers, and the forty nine ers as your wild cards,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: and Len had the Lions, Cowboys, and Seahawks. So are
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: are our wild cards?
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Not that bad? Not too bad?
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Now? And I know we're gonna talk championship or super Bowl,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: but I'm pretty sure had Lions bills. And I'm looking
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: pretty good right now.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: You are, You're looking pretty Honestly. It'd be a fantastic
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: super Bowl. As much as I want the Eagles to
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: get there, though, like as much as I would love
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: like Eagles bills too, would be insane with those with
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: the fan bases, Oh my god, people would do people
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: would do it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: What's funny is now we've been to Buffle like four
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: or five times as a family. Yeah, so they're they're
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: kind of digging the Bills a little bit. And it
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: was mentioned like one of the Eagles play the Bills
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: and you know Sylvia, and my daughter was like, well,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know, dad, am.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I I'm like, oh god, you.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Can go to college today if you like, or.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: You could go down Niagara Falls right now.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't wish that on anybody. We were just there
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: again on Saturday. That is the scariest I did you know.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I always have that. I I think I told you
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: that weird feeling of like I would you like to
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: jump in there and go over the ball. You die immediately.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: It's so violent and it's just it would rip, rip,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: rip your part, your part. But Detroit Buffalo super Bowl
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: would be absolutely wild. Haven't won one, and now that
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I think that'd be a lot of fun.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I actually told my daughters about Sylvia and my and
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: my wife Michelle about Sylvia and University of Buffalo and
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I said, I think I think Eric
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and the family. I said, their a FC team is
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: probably gonna end up being Buffalo. You know that you
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: root for?
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Just that's yeah, yep, all right, Well, uh, I think
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I think the predictions were pretty decent. They were pretty
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: decent except Lens in my Jets, I think worst worst
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: picks had to be the Jets.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Well, I think with the number one takeaways, don't ever
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: trust the Jets.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: No, we can't, we can't.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Our buddy Dave is a Jets fan, and I root
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: for the damn team every freaking year and it just
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't work out, just doesn't work out.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: He should be putting a gun to his head.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: All right, let's move along and talk about this Philadelphia
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Eagles team the remaining schedule. Might they actually be a
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: top seed in the NFC the rest of the schedule.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: At this point, they've got They're at the Rams this week.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Go back and listen to the Opposition Territory pod. Great,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: great podcast with Brett Stouter from ramblinsfan dot com. It
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: was a great discussion about what we're gonna see this week.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: They're at the Ravens. Then then they're home against the Panthers,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: home against the Steelers. They are at the Combs the Commanders,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: and then they are finishing the season with two home
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: games Cowboys, and then they finish and conclude the season
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: against the Giants. So so look, I think there's gonna
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: be at least two losses here. Frankly, I think the uh.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are gonna beat them, and I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: do think the Commanders are gonna beat them because they're
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: they're down in Washington. Jade Daniels has a different feel
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to him when he is at home. He really does
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: in that stadium. I know they're still playing in FedEx Field,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: but man, the fans love him and there's an energy
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: that he has down there. I do think the Eagles
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: can beat the Ravens in Baltimore. I do think that
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: that's possible given how the Ravens have played here and there.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough. I think
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the Eagles can beat them. But I think there's only
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: two more losses here. And I seriously think that this
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Eagles team only is gonna have four losses on the season.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Eric, I don't know what are you thinking here?
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think the game this Sunday is
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: actually gonna be a little tougher than the fans are
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: expecting the schedule. I think Rams record was five and five.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I believe. Yeah, great receivers. Uh, you know, if Stafford's healthy,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: it's not a team to take lightly, but I or lightly,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: but I think we pulled that one out. I'm seeing
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: losses at the Ravens and at the Coms. But having
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: said that, that's gonna be the third to last game
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: of the year. Jade Daniels has been he's been awesome.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: But he's a nurse in that rib injury though.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's you know, he's not a big guy, and
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: that's you're coming down to the end of the season.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Is he going to be healthy. If he's not healthy,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: they beat that team's ass. In my opinions, Yeah, the
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Steelers game. If it was in Pittsburgh, I might lean
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: a loss, But the fact they have him at home
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: with that crowd and Russell Wilson in December, I'm just
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: not I think they pulled that game out. I think
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: they lose to I think they'll lose two as well.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: In thirteen to four. I mean I think I predicted
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: eleven and six.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I think did yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean twelve and five.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I was twelve and five.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think there's two losses. I think they're
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: thirteen to four. I don't think they get the top
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: seed though, that's my unfortunately.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: But that yeah, you're thinking the Lions probably get the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: top seed. I'm thinking that as well. But you look
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: at the Lions' schedule. They got to play the Bears twice,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: they do play the Packers, but then they got to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: also play the Bills, the forty nine ers, and they
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: end their season at home against the Vikings. There's possible
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: three losses there with with this Lions team.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Possible. I say possible because the Bills.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Are well, it's a home game against the Bills, They're
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: on the road against the forty nine ers.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be real interesting. Top seed. That storyline is
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: gonna get built up soon, very very quickly.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I think, well, I think if they went if they
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: lose three of those, do we get the who's the tiebreaker?
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure how that works.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm not sure off top of my head.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I think it goes conference record or something like that.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: But I'm only seeing two losses for them too, which
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: would put them one game above us. I think that
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Bill's Lions game that might be the game of the
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: year outside of the Chiefs Bills game. Yeah, that's gonna
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: be an awesome game, but it's in Detroit. That's like
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: kind of the I think maybe they pull that one
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: out Packers Vikings. Maybe if the Niners get healthier and
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: they kind of put on they might be gearing up
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: for a run near the end. That might be a
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: tough game.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: As far as the Vikings lines go, I mean, the
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: whole division in like playoff scenario might be already done.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: So maybe they just lose that game or just win it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: The Vikings diit everyod you know what I'm saying. Like
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: that all depends how the records go. I do think
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: they're gonna they'll be like they're gonna wind up one
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: game above us and get the top second seed though
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: still get a buye.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I'll take it, yea, heah, I'll take it. I will
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: absolutely take that for sure. All Right, Well, we'd love
• 24:40
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• 24:43
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• 24:45
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• 24:51
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• 25:03
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• 25:07
  Speaker 1: on bigs are a Blue Sky? Now? I'm on Blue Sky. Well,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I've been there for like over a year, but I've
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: hardly ever used it. But this week, of course, it's
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: blown up a little bit. I'm not gonna necessarily say
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: my followers are blowing up necessarily, but still it's actually
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: been fun over there, like it's been like, no, no
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: awful negativity.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Not yet, the bots haven't totally taken over yet.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I just joined Thursday on the drive up to the Buffalo. WHOA, Yeah,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I think I followed you and maybe two other people
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: and I was like, all right, cool, I have got
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: back to it. But it does seem like a better
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: product than like, what was it master to done?
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it went nowhere.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's other ones, but it's better than Threads
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: so far. I mean Threads is like just bought central.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: It really is.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it can't be any worse than Twitter, which
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: I refuse to leave because it's so awful. A woman,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: a woman says, you know, I want birth control, and
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: some guy you know immediately is a responsive I want
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: to sectually assault you.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: That's that's pretty much first turned into right, yes, and
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: you can't tell me I'm not going to in politics.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: But I noticed the day after he won, Yeah, witter guy,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: even more disgusting and more vile.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: It was a lot more vile things was.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: It was the next fucking day, guys. It was I
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: was like, holy shit, there's open like Nazis on this thing. Now. Yes,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: it happened.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: The have been crazy porn.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Bots and Nazis. Yes, that's what that's what Elon is that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I guess the twenty twenty five U pitch to the shareholders, guys,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: we're going porn and Nazis this year.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, Ry before he bought it, remember he was like,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I want it to be an open town square, an
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: open town square for people, making it seem like he
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: wanted to the good old American way of communication.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: No, whatever that is.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Well, it does resemble like a Roman like in the
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: coliseum where they're screaming for death, yes, murders, an open
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: forum of but it went back like a thousand years unfortunately. Yeah.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well listen, if you're on Blue Sky, folks, follow
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Eric and I out there. You can just search up
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: our names there and give us a follow. So, all right,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna be back
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: in just a bit. We've got some Major League Baseball
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame ballot talk coming your way and some
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: sixers talk.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Stick with us.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: All right, we are back, and Eric, let's get into
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the first look here that we saw this past week
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: at the twenty twenty five Major League Baseball Hall of
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Fame ballots. I'm gonna give our thoughts here on maybe
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: who should make it in. I know last year, I
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: think Lennon and I talked about it, and I think
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: maybe you and I talked about it too. The fact
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: that Billy Wagner is up there, I think for sure
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: it's his tenth year on the bed, last year on
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the ballot. I think he should get in. A two
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: point three to one e er is a reliever lower
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: than Hall of famers who are in there now, Trevor
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Hoffman and Rolly Fingers. So I think I think Billy
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Wagner should get in here. And he almost had the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: votes last year.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Almost.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: He received seventy three point eight percent of the vote
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: last year, which was just five votes short of the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: seventy five percent that you need to be elected into
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. So I'm rooting for Billy Wagner
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: at this point. What are your thoughts here?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm not going to root for him because I
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: think there's a just on a personal level, some people
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: have this weird like he was one of ours, he
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: was beloved. He's like, I'm like, he was here for
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: two years here, two years, right, I was living in
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Philly when he was here, when he was there, and like,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: we loved him, but it was a really he was
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: not here for long at all, and then he went
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: to the stinking Mets, and I have a hard time
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: like being cool about him and like, oh, he should
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: definitely get in, And I honestly think he's kind of borderline. Now,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised it took him to the last year
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: to possibly get in, because, yeah, you said, Roley Fingers,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Lee Smith is in, Bruce Souters in, There's a lot
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: of closers that are in. There's more than I actually expected.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: But then I kind of dug a little bit. I'm like,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Dan Quisenberry's not in, and they had very similar stats.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Joe Nathan's not in yet. Yeah, Jonathan Papplebond. I know
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: he was a Philly and not beloved, but when you
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: compare the stats, he has a couple more. He has
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: more saves than they do, but pretty much the same
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: era across the board. And if he doesn't get in
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: and those three aren't in either, I'm not not going
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: to break my heart.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: It's fair. I think it's fair.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I think you know, God, Lenn and I have bitched
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and moaned for years and years about how the process
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: is and how much power the writers have, and they
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: just love it. They love keeping certain guys at I
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: mean there's like I mean, look at guys like Andrew Jones,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Carlos Beltron, like these are guys like honestly, like I
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: hated when the Phillies would go up against these teams
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: that they were playing for. These guys should be in,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it takes so freaking
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: long it drives it drives me crazy. And then you
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: have intro you know, like he should be in and
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: how long is it going to take him to get
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: to Cooper's Town. I just hate the baseball writers and
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: how the whole thing works.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: No, it sucks, and it's turned into like it's turned
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: into old men bitching about the Hall of Fame, which
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: we're doing right now. Again it is true, yes, but
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I think we're a little more objective and smart about it,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: where it's like Clemens and Maguire, omarv Scale Manny, you know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: and uh A Rod they should all be in. It's stupid.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Who cares they cheated soda berry bonds. They should all
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: have maybe their own wing of the Hall of Fame.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: These guys cheated, but they're awesome. He would have gotten
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: even without the drugs. But like a couple thoughts, if
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Eacheriro doesn't get in first ballot one votes, then what
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: are we doing exactly just tear the Hall of Fame
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: down because it doesn't matter.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's going to be a couple of
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: writers that are like.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not sure, you know, traditions is this,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: And there's gonna be a couple of assholes that don't
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: get him one hundred percent.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, he was very on Revere. I think
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: almost got one hundred percent the first time. He was
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: right in. He's better than Mariano Rivera. I think he's
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: the best baseball player maybe ever. If you add his
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: stats from from the Japanese League to here. I think
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: he might be the greatest player of all time. That's
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: just my take. So if the greatest player of all
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: time doesn't get in first ballot hundred percent, then the
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: whole system is fucked, which we already know it's fucked.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: We do CC Sabathi should definitely be in at three
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: hundred wins. He was awesome pro or great Major leaguer.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I just a lot of But then they give you
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: names that have got in. You know, I think it
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: was Todd Helton, maybe was he in last year? Or
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: who was it? Somebody made it last or Scott Rowland
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: is in that, Scott Roland is in, Yes, like Jesus,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get into race. But it gets
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: a little weird when Scott Roland is in. Yeah, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: the old the catcher for the Twins, what was his
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: name he was there for like forever he got it yeah, Yeah,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: And it's like if you weren't Midwest, red cheeked rube,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: like like it's tough to get in then it. I
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: don't like the feel of it at all. Like if
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: each row doesn't get in, Chase Sulley is not getting
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: enough votes. That is wild to me. Andrew Jones should
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: be in.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Andrew Jones, Yes, yes, he absolutely champion.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: He would think he was Rookie of the Year. He
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: played forever, never got accused of cheating. Why the fuck
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: is he not in? It makes no sense. And then
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I think in the article he sent me, they had
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: the old Timers ballot or whatever the hell was. And
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at to listen, like Steve Garvey is not in.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: I went and looked at his stats.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Scott rowlins in.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, exactly, Scott rowlands in. But he's not in.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Ten time All Star, won an MVP and woner World
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Series in nineteen eighty one, awesome career. How is he
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: not that that nullifies all the other bullshit? Like it
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. And on a personal level, I
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: saw Dick Allen's name on the list for the old
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Timers thing. You get him in there because that's my
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: middle name. Yeah, I was named after him. There you go,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: fair player. But he's a good ballplayer too. I'm not
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: not being biased, but like, the whole thing's a mess,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: and and and the writers have allowed it to become
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: a mess overtime, right, and.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: They absolutely have looked Chase Utley. Yes, I'm biased very
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: much so second time of the ballot. He got twenty
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: eight point eight percent last year. I think he is
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: somebody to possibly watch if he jumps over.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: How is how is only twenty Like? That doesn't that
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: that is why the Hall of Fame is fucked up?
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty percent.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: He's one of the best second basements of the past, like.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Thirty years, right, yes, yeah, twenty percent.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how much Jimmy Jimmy Rollins got fourteen point eight
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: percent last year?
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Fucking ridiculous. He won an VP is a world serious champ.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I know, it's incredible. I mean even Bobby Bobby Bray
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: who also got fourteen point eight last year and that
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: was his sixth try.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, see, like he's a guy. It's like, okay, I
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: can debate that. Should he be in. He had a
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: couple of good years, but there's just guys on this list.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that doesn't make any sense.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: But about Andy Pettitt, I mean, as much as I'm
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: not a big Yankees fan, he got thirteen point five
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: percent last year his seventh try. I don't know, I
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's getting a seventy five percent.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: I think he had the clemens a Rod stink on him.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, good point.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I think he was brought up a couple of times
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: like oh zoo cheating. I mean yeah, but again, I
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: think he won with two hundred and twenty four games.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I believe Mike Messine is another name he's not in.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: I don't believe he want to git a ton of games.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: But I think if I think that stink, it plays
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: a big role though, in the in the voting.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is Brian McCann. I don't know. It just came
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: to my Is Brian McCann the one that you were
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: talking about?
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: No, but he's on. He's on the ballot. If he
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: gets in, I'm quitting base I'm done.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, he's the classic. We've talked about the show before,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: how much we hate him. He's just like, play the
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: game the right way exactly.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I need to play on the traditional way.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: You stepped on the line when he came out in
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: the field. I'm gonna punch you. Like what the.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Brian McCann stinks? Oh god, alright, well something else that stinks.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: As we said, yeah, we have the only podcast in
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: America bitching about Brian McCann right now. There's just this
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: weird hatred towards him from the show. It is because
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: he's such a It's not because he like hates the
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Phillies or like punched anybody. It's that I'm I'm gonna,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: I'm standing up for the game. I hate guys like that.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: I fucking can't stand.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: He's a nudge, Yeah what he is. He's a nudge.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: He's a nerd. He's like the teacher told us to
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: be quiet, like shut the fuck.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Up, shut up, dork nark. I love it.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Brian mccannon stinks. And guess what said
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: of the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Boy, they stink.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: And I know we're gonna be getting into our discussion
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: and interview with our good friend of the show, Harrison
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Grimm from Libertyballers dot Com in just a bit to
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: really dive into this disaster of a sixer season. But uh,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: article came out this past week Eric about the team meeting.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Somebody leaked it of course, uh was picked up by ESPN.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, and it just like once again, Joe El
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Embiid just looks like he's just not the leader of
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: this team. Tyrese Maxey comes out of this looking good,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: as he usually does, because I think Tyris Maxey in
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: general is like a not only a decent person, but
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: he's there for the team, like he cares so much.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Like that's what I got out of it. And meanwhile
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: he's he's he's challenging Joel Embiid to show up, show
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: up on time for things. You know, when you're the
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: face of the franchise, there are just certain responsibilities that
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: you have. And I'm not gonna say that Embiid isn't
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: taking things seriously in terms of who he is, his
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: position with this team. And yes, he's gone through some
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: personal stuff this year. However, you're Joel Embiid. You know
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: you've gotten to this point in your career. And I
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of one of the same themes
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: that we're just kind of talking about that gets recycled
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: over and over again with Embiid and this this is
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the dirty fucking laundry kind of coming out here, and
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: it doesn't bode well for this season and really where
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: this franchise is gonna end up going, I think in general,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, what were your thoughts, buddy when
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: you when you heard this, because I was just like,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, of course, of course this is happening.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I won't go too far into it
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: because I think down the road, when this becomes a
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: complete fucking disaster and after they fire the coach and
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: things start to really come out, we'll have a show.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: It's like way more Sixers focused.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they got three guys sorry, real quick, they
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: got three guys on max contracts for a little while here.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is the team. They don't know how many options.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: And when they gave him be that extension, I think
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: on the show we were kind of positive about it.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, he's gonna be He's going to come
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: back from the Olympics and he's going to become a leader.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: He got the money, he's going to be here for
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: a while because we're all scared. He wanted to take
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: off and leave after you know, having a really good
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: year altho although injury prone, which oh my god, I
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: can't believe that right right, you basically made him untradable
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: with that extension. Now, like he has a player option
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: for seventy million dollars in twenty twenty eight, twenty nine.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Who the fuck wants to trade for that unless you're
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: a team star for a superstar. But even if you
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: do trade for him, because of the money, you're not
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: getting anything back. You're not gonna like if you can
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: treat him the Hornets because they're dying for a superstar
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: outside of Lamello, like you might get a late first rounder. Yeah, player,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: you're not getting much back because they're taking on all
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: that cash, and he would fuck their chemistry up anyway,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: like he really would, Like like trading for him doesn't
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: make sense now because he looks like a shell of himself.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: He might come back and play better. But two thoughts
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: right away, I'm really happy that MAXI got paid. He
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: deserved it every penny. And I like the fact that
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: he finally challenged this guy. He's like, Hey, we're the
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: same now, Like I'm not your little brother, Like I'm
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: a superstar and so were you. I see myself at
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: the same level. We're both making the same pay. I'm
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: showing up, You're not fuck you.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: I love that he did that. And you knew I
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: was gonna get leaked all those fucking meetings going somebody
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: in that locker room. Who knows who it was, but
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: love that he did that challenged him. Paul George is
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: not that kind of guy. He's never been a stand up,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: like I'm gonna take over kind of person. Yeah, he's
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: not leader, no, but I think Max he is. And
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: the coach is dreadful, like they're not playing well. That
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: that's true and beads. They're trying to bring m beat
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: back into the fold. Maxie was hurt, but Nick nurse
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: is coaching is fucking suck this year. Like he's not
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: making the right rotations. He's the offense is stale. They're
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: kind of doing the same thing when McCain was out there.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I love that he's scoring like twenty five points a game.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: That's great, but that's all they got. Yeah, and he's
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: not working all these new pieces in like they're supposed to.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Like I think before the season started, I'm like they
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: brought in guys that know their role and know their position. Uh,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: what's his name? Eric? Eric Gordon go Ye, he's got
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: he's got veterans, and a good coach should be able
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: to win a couple of games with the pieces they
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: had against some of the teams they played like they
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: played the Grizzlies tonight without John Moran. They lost to
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: them by I think like six points. They lost to
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: the Grizzlies like two weeks ago by seventeen points. It's
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: just it's just a poorly run team. And I really
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: think Nurse is gonna be the first domino to fall
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: because you can't. You can't, and Be's not gonna fall.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: No, and.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: And that's that's the fault of this franchise. They've always
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: given him carte blanche. He's never had to answer for anything. Yeah,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler called out Ben Simmons back in the day
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: and he got fucking shipped out of town. Yeah, for me,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: he might have been talking about both of them. We
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: have no idea like that. They weren't showing up on time.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: They were they didn't give a fuck. I'm sure you're
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: talking about Ben, but maybe the little piece of him
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: was like young Bee might be the kind of the
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: same way. But of course I think Nick is gonna go.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: They're gonna have to make some move soon because this
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: is a complete dez that. I don't have many teams
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: to made the playoffs after starting two and twelve. Yeah,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I'm sure, the number is not good. And even if
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: you do get into this re you've already lost twelve
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: games and you haven't played too much of the schedule yet,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: the tough part of the schedule. So what are you
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: looking at a playing with it with a team that
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: you even set up front, we're here for the playoffs.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: We're gonna rest and we're gearing up for the playoffs.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: You may not even fucking get into the playoffs, and
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: if you do, you're in a play and then you're
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: playing the Celtics who are gonna kill you. Yeah, yeah,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: this is this couldn't have gone more wrong for a
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: season that should have been fucking like the fact that
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: they were able to get Paul George off free agency.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: That never happens when you save cap room, ever, and
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: you brought in all these really good pieces and Maxie
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: makes the jump. They should be fucking twelve and two
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: and not two and twelve. And I do kind of
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: blame the coach a little bit, like you should be
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: able to should have been able to win three or
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: four of those games with the pieces he had when
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Maxi was healthy, And maybe he's just not a good
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: coach anymore.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's not.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Look, I'm gonna ask Harrison about Nick Nurse in particular
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: because of the team meeting. In the team meeting, it
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: was said Nick Nurse isn't challenging us enough. And then
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Nick Nurse apparently said in that meeting that the guys
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: just they're not going through like the fundamentals during practice.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: They're not taking practice seriously. You know, So there's obviously yeah, exactly, yeah.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: It's wild to me when like coaches like, well, you're
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: not doing it. You're in charge the point fingers, you
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: don't take practice seriously. I coached SIF, I coached sifth
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: graders for me to go there and seeing there and
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: be like, we guys aren't taking as seriously, like that's
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: my fault.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Right right, like crazy, like it's so amazing. Going from
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Doc Rivers to Nick Nurse. We were like thank God
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: for Nick. We're like God, thank god they brought him in.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Thank god we had to deal with we had to
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: deal with what three four seasons of Doc Rivers and now.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: He was good last year. He was a good coach
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: last year. Yes, I mean it was obvious right away,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: like wow, we have a real coach. This is this
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: is no joke anymore, doc let The doc was too
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: veteran laden, he was too easy on the superstars. Nick
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Nurse came in and made him work. Not happening this year,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: you could just you can see it on the court.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: But is that a reflection of somebody like Embiid, who
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: obviously is having some major issues this year? Like, is
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: it a reflection of Embid? Because of what you said,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the organization just giving him carte blanche to basically do
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: whatever he wants. Last year, Embid's playing well, He's just
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: playing at an incredibly even higher level than his MVP year.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: So Nick Nurse is like, okay, you know, you know
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: what am I gonna What am I gonna do? Tell
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: him to get to the get to the practice. You know,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes early here the guy's absolutely murdering. So I
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: don't but I see what you're saying. Yeah he should though,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Yes he should.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, they paid you like what eight million dollars ten
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: million dollars to coach the team.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have it.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: You have a title in your resume, you come in
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: with like some some cachet. You should be able to
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: come in and be like, hey, you need to work harder. Yes, like,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: what the fuck, dude, Well, absolutely.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: This year. I think you may have misunderstood what I
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: was saying, Like last year, last year when he was
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: having that incredible season where Nick Nurse is probably like listen,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: he's coming a half hour late or something like that.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: But man, this guy's having a freaking great season. I'm
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: not gonna address it. So he doesn't address it all year.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: We get to this year and it's a rollover from
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: last year where he's like, oh shit, now the guy's
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: completely a disaster here with his health and with maybe
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: where he is mentally.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Shit.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: I kind of set the precedent, but that's what I'm
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: saying though. Ye last year, he should have came in
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: and been like I'm in fucking charge. Yeah, yeah, you're
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: gonna play harder. We're like, you won so and so
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: many games, We're winning more games. I don't give a
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: fuck about the MVP. I'm here to win titles, right,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: And he should have taken by the reins and told that,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: told the franchise I'm the fucking boss now, like, I'm
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: gonna push this guy to the limit. He pushed Maxi,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: and Maxie responded, yeah, he should have pushed him. B
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: last year, and he sure give him days of rest.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Get it. He's a big fucking dude, And unfortunately, what
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: I think we're seeing is he's kind of lost control
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: of the team because he didn't do it last year
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: and and be it. Unfortunately, he's thirty years old and
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: maybe he's heading into the next wave of his career
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: where he can't bully ball. And he took all jumping.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: I watch only the second half of the games. I
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: had practice tonight. Yeah, as far as I could tell,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: every fucking shot in b me was from the foul
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: line out to the three point line. Basically, yeah, you're
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: seven too, Okay, Yeah, I understand you're a good jump shooter,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: but that's what Paul George and MAXI do exactly. You
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: don't need you to fucking do that exactly. Your specialty
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: is to get in there and you can fucking pull
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: a defense out to make a three, but also clears
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: the lane for you because you have good shooters every year.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: I'm I coach kids, but I even as a fan
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: who understands the game you watch, you're like, this is
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: not working. It's not it's poorly constructed and behind the scenes, obviously,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: how long did Maxie want to fucking do that. By
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: the way, I know, I know, I got a feeling
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: at some point last year, even when they were winning.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: He was like, Man, I'm I'm gonna get paid, I
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: know it, and I'm watching this motherfucker show up an
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: hour late for practice for games. I'm Harry fucking Day
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: working my ass off and we're gonna be making the
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: same money. I'm gonna fucking say something soon. And this
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: was the per opportunity. But I guarantee you that started
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: last year. Maxie was watching this ship, going the fuck
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: is this? I work ass off? It's just not cool
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we're gonna keep following this ship at the
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: show and I'm being cool about it because I'm a
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: huge SIXUS.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: You are very disappointed, but I didn't see this coming.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: It's really sad to watch, and it's not getting bad.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: I don't see a road out. That's the problem. That's
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: the scary part is I have no idea how to
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: fix this.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Mentally.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: This team's not there mentally, the team and the coaching
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: and even the organization that mentally they're not there.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: To get it fixed right now. So I all right,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: we're gonna I'm gonna.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Let you go.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: Before you like, before we end the show, just to
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: give you even better synopsis on the season. Our first
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: round pick next year is only top top six protected,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: that's right. Yeah, so if we go seven or below,
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: if we win just enough games to get like the
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: seventh pick, seventh pick, it goes to Okay, see, yes,
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: who's destroying the whole league right, because's some dumb ship
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: trade we made ten years of whatever the fuck it was.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: I didn't even look at the tree because I don't
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: even want to know what ship ball player we traded
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: away or traded for to get rid of that pick
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: right next year, because it'll really depressed me. Yeah, that's
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: if we don't want to the top six, we lose
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: the pick.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Guess what we're losing the pick we're going to.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: We're gonna win just enough games to wind up out
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: of the top six.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Ye, that's how.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: That's how it's gonna be the kick of the nuts.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: That's what's gonna happen for sure. All right, buddy, I'm
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: gonna let you go far. Folks, Subscribe on whatever podcast
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• 49:05
  Speaker 1: There you go, There you go. All right, we have
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: got a more Sixers talk coming your way. We're gonna
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: do some bitching and griping again and uh gonna let
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Eric go. We're gonna take a break. We'll be back
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: in just a bit. All right, we are back. It's
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: getting more Sixers talk here. It's what we're thrown down
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: on the table and now on the table. Joining us
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: now to get into this Philadelphia seventy six ers team
• 49:32
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• 49:42
  Speaker 5: How you doing, man, I'm doing pretty well, Jeff. I
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: always love talking Sixers with you. Appreciate you having me on,
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: even even if we got some negative topics to address
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: this episode.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Look, we've been wanting to get into this Sixers team
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: in more detail and like even the negative stuff that
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: has been going on with this team. And like we
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: said before we hit the record button, it's like, you
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: know what, we're looking forward to talking about this team.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: But man, what happened yesterday the news that hit and
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: broke with regard to this team. My co host Eric
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: and I were just talking about this entire situation. So
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: let's dive into the team meeting that we all have
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: heard about, all of US Sixers fans know about and
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: have read about. Joel Embiid was called out by Tyrese
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Maxey for being chronically late to just about everything related
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: to the team and just how it reflects on the team.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Just such a terrible look for a team that is
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: just absolutely doing nothing on the court this year. And
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: of course this dirty laundry comes out as this team
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: is really having their worst season basically in the past decade. Here, Harrison, like,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: what were your initial thoughts and you know, what does
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: it mean for this team moving forward?
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Here? Yeah, so I think there's really two sides of it.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: I think with Joel it's very possible on a personal
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: level that maybe he is going through some stuff, and
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: when people go through stuff, it can sometimes downgrade their
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: work related performance in a way. Yeah, obviously this season
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: hasn't started like it was supposed to. You know, they're
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: two and eleven at the time of this recording. Joelle
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: did not play right away for the season. He was
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: not ready for the season. And then there was also
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: all the Marcus Hayes stuff, So I do think it's
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: important to look at it from that perspective. But on
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: the other hand, anybody who has spent any time around
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: the team has seen this stuff kind of play out Joelle,
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: you know, not always being on time, arriving late to games,
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: that type of thing. And as the franchise face, there
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: is a really big duty for Joel to be the
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: franchise face and really take the first steps foward when
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: it comes to practices or that type of thing. And
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: in the past, I mean, Joelle was averaging last year
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: thirty five in the ten of games.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: So when someone's doing that, you're not you're not going.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: To critique, you know, how they approach their their work
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: right necessarily obviously, Yeah, obviously this year it's a little
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: bit different. Joelle's numbers across the board are down, the
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: team obviously isn't performing that well, and there's some urgency,
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: and I think you really saw it with Kyle Lowry
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: calling this meeting, as well as as Tyree's Maxley kind
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: of stepping up and telling Joel like, hey, like we
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: really gotta set some some steps in the motion here
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: and and kind of take a more serious approach to
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: our work because the season is slipping away. And I
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: do appreciate Tyree's being the one to say that he's
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: only a twenty four year old kid. He's younger than me,
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: and and I'll tell you what, at twenty four, I
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: don't know if I was as mature.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: As Tyrese is. And yeah, that really speaks volumes.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: And I do think when when you look at the
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: locker room as a whole, obviously Paul George is the
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: third big name here and he's too new to the
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: point where I don't think he can be the guy
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: to kind of stand up and be like, listen, Joelle,
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: like we gotta address some stuff. I think, Yeah, hearing
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: this message from Tyree's is where it needed to come from.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: It obviously does need to be said because the Sixers
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: to this point have underperformed and you know, we'll see
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: tonight with this Grizzlies game, depending on whether or not
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: Tyree's plays, if they can get the big three on
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: the floor and kind of put things.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: In the right motion.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Harrison, you mentioned one word, and I kind of
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: want to expound upon it a little bit, and that's urgency.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I think when it comes to Joel Embiid and his
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: years in a Sixers jersey. There has always been that
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: feeling of urgency with him, and a feeling too as
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: it relates to the urgency of what type of Joel
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Embid are we going to get? Like, what type of
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Joel Embiid is not only going to show up to
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: the court or show up on the court, but what
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: kind of Joel Embiid are we gonna hear about in
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: the locker room outside the confines of the wells far
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: how he's doing with his nutrition, weight, you know, keeping
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: his weight where it needs to be, all this stuff
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: that comes with being the face of the franchise and
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: that sense of urgency that you talked about, it just
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it's there right now.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: And maybe not with him.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: And like you said, maybe there's some personal stuff going
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: along with this that we don't know about that we
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: are not going to find out about probably, and I
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: think that's fair. But the sense of urgency of what
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: the Sixers front office did during this offseason, and yes
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: there have been some unfortunate injuries, especially with Paul George
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: right before the season started, it just I hear that
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: word urgency and I'm like, I feel like we've been
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: feeling it a lot with joe El Embiid over these years,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: and there's got to be a lot of pressure on him.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: There has to be a lot of pressure on him.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: But still, you are the face of the franchise in
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: a league where there's only so many teams, so many
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: potential MVP candidates that can help take your team to
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: that next level. The urgency at it's got to be
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: there for Joel Embiid, regardless of what may be happening
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: outside the confines of the Wells Fargo Center. In my opinion,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know what are your thoughts.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I feel like the whole Embid era there.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: Has always been kind of a sense of urgency, not
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: because of Joelle underperforming or anything like that, but just
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: because he does get hurt a lot, and obviously injuries
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: can pile up and it can affect your career.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: Obviously, Joelle now is.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: Age thirty, he's about to enter his twilight years, and
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: the Sixers really opened up a two to three year
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: window by signing Paul George. So you're only going to
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: get so many shots at the ultimate goal, which is
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: an NBA championship. So while there's been a sense of
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: urgency kind of felt basically since Joelle got here.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: You saw it with the Jimmy Butler trade.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: That was them speeding up the timeline and so many
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: other trades, the James Harden the trade. This is really
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: the last Barrah of the embiid era. This is probably
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: the last chance that they're gonna get with Joel as
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: the best player to seriously compete for a title. Yeah,
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: and time is limited, then we'll see. I'm sure Joel
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: will play better. To this point, he's a rhythm guy.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: He hasn't really found his rhythm. Obviously he's coming back
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: from from an injury or whatever you want to call it.
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: But the urgency certainly is piling up, for sure.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: It is for sure.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Well to keep talking about this team meeting that was
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: reported about, I wanted to kind of like reflect on
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: some of the news that came out with regard to
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Nick Nurse in the coaching, whether it's his coaching, and
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: how some of the players were not necessarily happy about
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: how he's not pushing them, and also Nick Nurse not
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: necessarily happy about the level of I guess you would
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: say dedication that the team in general is giving like
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: during practices and understanding what the urgency is. So I'm
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: wondering how does this meeting reflect on Nick Nurse in
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: general from a coaching standpoint, and really how effective he
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: can truly be for this team. What are your thoughts here?
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think everything said in this meeting to an
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: extent is a little bit alarming. But I think this
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: is the part that really kind of stuck out as
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: a big question mark for me, not even necessarily Tyree's
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: holding Joelle accountable and telling him it needs to be better,
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: which was the headline of the whole thing. It's kind
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: of interesting that the players feel that way. In my mind,
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: the players get paid a lot of money to be
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: professionals and perform to the best of their ability, and
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: that means not just with games, but with practices and
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: everything that they're under contract to do. So, so hearing that,
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: especially from a roster that is pretty new, there's there's
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: a lot of new faces here this year that we're
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: in here last year. It's somewhat alarming, and I'm not
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: it's difficult to say like which players pointed that out right,
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: but it's certainly something to kind of keep an eye on.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: Nick nerves. Obviously there are some issues.
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: In Toronto, some that might have been his fault, some
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: that might not been might not have been his fault,
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: So it's something to keep an eye on for sure.
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: That's probably the most questionable part about the whole report
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: in my opinion.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, as of us recording this here
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday night, November twentieth, you know, we still haven't
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: gotten a consistent look at Joel Embiid, Tyrese Maxey, and
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Paul George playing together. We've been we've been clamoring for
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: that as a fan base, and once this starts happening
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: over time, Harrison, I'm wondering, do you think that we're
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: gonna end up seeing a different type of Sixers team
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: than what we have seen now? And of course I
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: think the answer is yes. But you know, if so,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: how might it look different? Even given this these reports
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: that have been coming out as well. I mean, we've
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: all been psyched to see these three guys on the
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: court together, and now with news coming out, I feel
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: like the balloon is just that much more deflated here.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: But do you think we're gonna end up seeing a
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: different Sixers team where they can really kind of write
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: this ship.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: I think just from a talent perspective, having those three
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: on the court, plus McCain, who has been excellent, yeah,
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: is gonna be a huge boost. And often in this league,
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: talent wins championships, sometimes even over chemistry. When it comes
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: to those three guys, Obviously, on paper they're really good fits,
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: but I think they might struggle off the rip kind
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: of figuring out who to defer to win. We kind
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: of saw a little bit of that when ty Resee
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: was playing with Paul George, where Paul George was kind
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: of taking shots down the clutch when ty Resee was cooking,
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: and that's not really what you want to see.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: So I think that's gonna be something to see here.
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: And unfortunately we're thirteen games in or so and they
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: haven't really had a chance to develop that or really.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: Much of anything at this point. Yeah, but I do
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: think once those three.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: Are on the court, maybe even tonight against the Memphis Grizzlies,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: we'll see if Tyrese Maxie returns, just having that talent
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: will be a huge boost and not having to rely
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: on guys like Kyle Lowry who's been starting, or you
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: can go down the bench even Jeff Dowden not stretching
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: those guys. Then I think it will be a really
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: big boost for the team. It's just a question of
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: how quickly can they develop this chemistry together.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that's gonna be key for sure.
• 1:00:27
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• 1:00:46
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• 1:00:50
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• 1:00:52
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• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: look for like a year, a year and a half,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: you know, took a break this past week back into
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  Speaker 2: and everybody else should too.
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• 1:01:08
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• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: Sure, it's a great platform, and it's been great seeing
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: just how much of the Sixers Twitter community has slowly
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: kind of leaked over there, and it's cool to see.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, Well, you know you mentioned Kyle Lowry,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: and I wanted to get into Kyle Lowry because he's
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: gonna be missing three games with a hip injury. And look,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: while he may not be the most important cog on
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: this team, I think Kyle Lowry brings a set that
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: veteran presence to this team for some of the younger guys.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: You know, you see him during timeouts. He's really trying
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: to give some direction to some of the younger guys,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: and I like what his presence has been on this
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Sixers team. I'm wondering how concerned should we be And
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I know it's only three games, but how concern should
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: we be about this injury here? You know, given his age,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: and really, how does it How does it affect the team?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: And maybe in the near term, you know, this this
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: is another test where their death is going to be tested. No,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: Kyle Lowry and now I know, like he wasn't playing
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: the best. He's in the middle of a pretty bad
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: Cole Spells shooting wise, but let's face it, Kyle Lowry
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: is a starter at his age just isn't feasible as
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: a backup or you know, even a backup to a backup.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: He's great, and I do think the team will miss
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: his presence to a certain extent. You're either gonna see
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: guys like Jared McCain getting more on ball opportunities, which
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: he may or may not be ready for. We've seen
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: kind of glimpses of his passing game, and we've seen
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: him struggle as well.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: Another guy that they're gonna have.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: To lean on his Reggie Jackson, who has certainly been
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: a little bit of of a roller coaster since he's
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: done here. We see some hot shooting performances, just crazy
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: like moments where he goes hoop mixtape mode and does
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: a billion crossovers and then books a shot. So so
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: so they're gonna have to lean on guys like that,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: And you know, if Reggie Jackson is able to step up,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: it's not gonna be that big of a deal, Or
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: if Jared McCain is able to fill that on ball roll,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: it's not gonna be a big deal. But if either
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: one of those guys struggled, you're certainly gonna miss Kyle
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  Speaker 5: Lowry for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's a good saying.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Jared McCain's a good segue into this next question and
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: topic I wanted to dive into with you, Harrison, And
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if if Jared McCain may be your answer here,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: because it's it's tough to find bright spots with this
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: team at this point in the season, as we know,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: just a disaster thus far. But if you had to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: pick a bright spot, what would that bright spot be?
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  Speaker 4: And why?
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  Speaker 1: For me? Jared McCain, I'm wondering if that's same answer
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: you would give.
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  Speaker 2: So what's your bright spot so far on this team?
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  Speaker 4: I think Jared McCain is the only answer, honestly. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know if I was missing something, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no. Jered McCain's been a delight.
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  Speaker 5: He's someone that I scouted with Riddy Ballers along with
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: Paul haw Dred, my colleague. He was someone we really
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: liked a lot, just the offensive refinement. He's a very
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: complete offensive player, which obviously you and other Sixer fans
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: have seen to this point, and I think he's going
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: to continue to get better. I truthfully did not expect
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: him to be anything like what he is. His first year,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: he really kind of struggled in Summer League, was streaking
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: Summer League, didn't really.
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  Speaker 4: Pop too much in training camp.
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  Speaker 5: It kind of looked like he was going to get
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: some G League reps, and all of a sudden, Tyree's
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: goes down. They got to lean on him, and he's
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: not only kind of met the call, he's really exceeded
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: expectations for a twenty year old. And it's gonna be
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: fun seeing whenever Tyreese comes back, just how those two
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: can can kind of mesh on the court.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: Offensively, I think it's going to be really good.
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  Speaker 5: You got Tyreez who has after burners obviously is a
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: capable shooter, and Jared McCain, who kind of thrives more
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  Speaker 5: as a perimeter player. It's going to be interesting to
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: navigate that from a defensive standpoint, just because it's two
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: guards who are pretty small. I am a bit optimistic
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: about Jared McCain's outlook defensively, I'm just not sure how
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: quick he can become an averager plus defender.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about his defense and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: where you see the development of that going.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So he's a.
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  Speaker 5: Really interesting player from a defensive standpoint, and having someone
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: like Kyle Lowry around him I think is going to
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: be really beneficial because Kyle's like McCain. He's a smaller
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: guard who has done well as a post defender. And
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: we've seen, albeit in very limited sample sizes, that Jared
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: McCain is comfortable bodying people up in the post to
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: a certain extent, most notably in the overtime Pacers win
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: he switched on to Pascal Siakam and.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: Held his own.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd like to see them experiment more with that.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: I think what you're gonna see probably for this year
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: is they're just to stick him on shooters or negative
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: offensive players and you know, just try to grow his
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: defensive game as time goes on. But that's something where
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: I'm glad Kyle is around. I truly think he can
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: learn a lot from Kyle's someone who like he's just ripped,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: like like his legs are just huge. He's got a
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: good center corps. I would like to see them experiment
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: with that more, and you very well might. Who knows,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: Nick Nurse is known for trying a lot of different things,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: and maybe that's a maybe that's.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: A pathway to keep getting him these big minutes.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how he develops.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about Tyrese Maxey over these years,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: how's he going to develop? And I don't know, I
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's a you know, Daryl Morey, you know,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: drafting just the these guys that have some sort of
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: you know, diamond in the rough.
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  Speaker 2: Type of capabilities and skills.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: But it's been nice to see some guys draft on
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: this team that have been surprising to us Sixers fans
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: over the years. But before I let you go, Harrison,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: I did want to kind of, like from an overall standpoint,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: really get into, you know, just where the team leadership
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: is gonna be going with the Sixers, especially after the
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: story and just how this season is going, because I
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: feel like this team really is at a crossroads in
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. So when we reflect on
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: the team meeting reports and just how the team has
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: performed this season, who do you believe is gonna be
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: the real team leaders here as we move forward?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: And why? I mean is it? Indeed?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: I mean Maxi certainly seems to be one, But who
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: are those team leaders that we really need to start?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Like honing in on to say they're gonna be the
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: face of this franchise moving forward.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's a great question.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: I think Tyrese is someone who has he talked about
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: it at the beginning of the year. He wants to
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: be more vocal, he wants to be a guy constantly
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: people's ears, pushing them to be better. And I definitely
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: think you're gonna see that and listen, like everyone is
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: is focused on Tyrese being like Joelle, like you gotta
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: be on time, that type of thing. Let's face it,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: like that's just the truth and someone needs to say it,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: and Tyree said it. And that's where leadership comes from,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: people saying what needs to be said, not necessarily what
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: people like to hear, but what needs to be said.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: And I also think you might see a leadership role
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: from Kyle Lowry, who's obviously been around the league for
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: a long time.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: Obviously, I didn't mention.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: Joel there, And you know, that's a tricky thing to
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: navigate because on paper, you want your best player to
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: lead the team, obviously, but just doesn't seem like Joelle
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: is really hardwired that way. It seems like he's kind
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: of more of an introvert. I know everyone sees the
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: trolling and the on court antics, but that's just not
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: really who Joelle is as a person, and.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: One line persona is much different than a persona face
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: to face with somebody or in person.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: It just is.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: That's what we've learned over these years.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: And I know people might be disappointed to hear that
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: or think Joelle needs to be the leader, but I
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: don't necessarily think that's the case. I think it's good
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: to have one of your better players to be the
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: vocal guy. And it seems like Tyree is willing to
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: kind of take that torch and move forward if you will.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it was a great discussion again, folks. Harrison
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: grim from Libertyballers dot com, Buddy, it was great talking
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: to you. Thanks so much for coming on the show
• 1:09:30
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• 1:09:33
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• 1:09:38
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• 1:09:41
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