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Speaker 1: Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction, and today I'm
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Speaker 1: going to tell you three stories that demonstrate that. But
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Speaker 1: our weekly uploads. Okay, let's get into today's stories. One
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Speaker 1: morning in July of nineteen ninety seven, a man named
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Speaker 1: Abdel Satur Betowe laid in a hospital bed in Elmnufia, Egypt,
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Speaker 1: northwest of Cairo, and he felt horrible, but this was
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Speaker 1: nothing new. So Bedowe was in his sixties and unfortunately
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Speaker 1: he spent a lot of time in hospitals because he
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Speaker 1: had chronic liber disease. It made him feel weak and
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Speaker 1: tired and caused him to get really bloated and vomit
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Speaker 1: pretty often. But recently Bedowe had begun experiencing some new
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Speaker 1: and even more concerning symptoms. Most recently, he'd come into
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Speaker 1: the hospital because he was feeling really clumsy and disoriented.
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Speaker 1: It seemed like his liber disease was getting so advanced
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Speaker 1: that he was now experiencing symptoms in his brain as well.
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Speaker 1: So that morning, Betowe was on a whole bunch of
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Speaker 1: medications to try to treat his liber disease, but so
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Speaker 1: far it felt like the medication really wasn't doing much
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Speaker 1: of anything. He still had all the symptoms he had
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Speaker 1: come in with and so feeling really disheartened. He's just
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Speaker 1: laying in his bed. There's nobody else in his hospital room,
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Speaker 1: and so he's just trying to get through it minute
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Speaker 1: by minute. And as he's laying there, he starts to
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Speaker 1: feel really lightheaded, like way more lightheaded than he had
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Speaker 1: felt at all at any point while he was hospital.
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Speaker 1: And it was so extreme, so fast that he was
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Speaker 1: going to call out for a nurse, but it was
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Speaker 1: like he couldn't even make a sound. It was like
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Speaker 1: his body was shutting down. And then it was like
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Speaker 1: everything went black at some point later could have been
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Speaker 1: minutes later, hours later, days later. Beta we had no idea,
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Speaker 1: but he had the sensation of waking up, except when
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Speaker 1: he opened his eyes, everything was still totally black, like
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Speaker 1: he can't see anything. But in this kind of weird
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Speaker 1: sensation of coming back to reality, he quickly was able
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Speaker 1: to sort of feel that he still had all his limbs,
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Speaker 1: you know, he could feel his whole body lying flat
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Speaker 1: on some surface, which could have been the bed he
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Speaker 1: was still on. He didn't know, but he's thinking to himself,
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Speaker 1: I'm alive. I can tell I'm alive. I can't see,
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Speaker 1: I don't know where I am. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: happened to me, but I'm still alive. But when he
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Speaker 1: tried to move, it was like he felt trapped. It's
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Speaker 1: like he couldn't quite tell if he was literally physically
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Speaker 1: being confined in some space or if he was paralyzed.
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Speaker 1: He didn't know. He just couldn't move, and so suddenly
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Speaker 1: he has this wave of claustrophobia come over him that
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Speaker 1: he needs to escape, and he starts screaming out for help,
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Speaker 1: and eventually somebody heard him. It would turn out twelve
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Speaker 1: hours earlier, when Betowe was laying in his bed and
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Speaker 1: he could still see and he suddenly had this extreme
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Speaker 1: lightheadedness come over him and then it all went black
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Speaker 1: for the first time. Well, what was actually happening is
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Speaker 1: he was going into a very deep coma. It was
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Speaker 1: because of his liver disease and other ailments he had,
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Speaker 1: but he goes into this really deep coma. The hospital
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Speaker 1: he was at, they didn't recognize it as a coma.
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Speaker 1: They thought Betowe had actually died, and so they put
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Speaker 1: him in a coffin and they put him in the refrigerator,
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Speaker 1: and that's where he was when he woke up hours later.
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Speaker 1: He was literally in a coffin. And the reason he
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Speaker 1: couldn't move is because he was in a coffin and
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Speaker 1: was physically restricted in that space, and so he starts
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Speaker 1: screaming out. He's totally claustrophobic. And there were employees that
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Speaker 1: actually just happened to be near the door of the
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Speaker 1: walk in fridge where all the other coffins and bodies were,
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Speaker 1: and they heard him. They walked inside and they saw
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Speaker 1: one of the bodies is literally sitting up in their coffin.
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Speaker 1: And so when Bedowe realized what had happened here, he
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Speaker 1: jumped out of the coffin and ran out of the room,
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Speaker 1: vowing to never come back to the hospital. But that's
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Speaker 1: not the end of the story. One of the hospital
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Speaker 1: employees who went into the fridge and saw Bedowe's sitting
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Speaker 1: up in his coffin basically was one of the people
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Speaker 1: who freed Bedowe. They were so shocked by what they saw. Remember,
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Speaker 1: they don't know that he was still alive. They think
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Speaker 1: they've walked into the fridge and a dead person is
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Speaker 1: sitting up like a zombie and is now like talking
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Speaker 1: to them and running out of the room. That was
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Speaker 1: so terrifying for them that they literally had a heart
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Speaker 1: attack and died. And where were they placed after they
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Speaker 1: were dead? In Bedowe's literal Coffin Early one morning in
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Speaker 1: January of nineteen fifty five, twenty five year old Carl
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Speaker 1: Gilbert struggled to stay awake as he drove down a
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Speaker 1: dark highway in rural Kansas. Carl had been driving since
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Speaker 1: about three in the morning because he was on his
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Speaker 1: way to an early morning meeting out of college that
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Speaker 1: was over two hundred miles away. He didn't want to
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Speaker 1: be late, and so Carl he took another sip of
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Speaker 1: his coffee and rubbed his face to try and wake
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Speaker 1: himself up. But his eyelids were so heavy and he
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Speaker 1: really was struggling to focus on the road. So Carl
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Speaker 1: was a recruiter, and so it was his job to
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Speaker 1: drive around to different universities in Kansas and Oklahoma to
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Speaker 1: try and recruit graduating seniors for his company. So as
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Speaker 1: a result of that, he was used to waking up
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the night and driving these long
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Speaker 1: distances to get to these colleges. But despite this being
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Speaker 1: sort of typical behavior for him, today he just felt
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Speaker 1: like he was way more tired than normal. And so
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Speaker 1: Carl yawned and drank some more coffee, and he could
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Speaker 1: just feel his eyes getting heavier and heavier, and then
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Speaker 1: at some point he closed his eyes for what he
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Speaker 1: wanted to be just for like a second, but it
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Speaker 1: just felt like he couldn't quite open him again. And
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Speaker 1: as he's sort of like blinking for this really long,
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Speaker 1: extended blink, he hears a voice in the car. He's
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Speaker 1: all alone in his car, it's the middle of the
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Speaker 1: nighties by himself, but he hears a voice right behind
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Speaker 1: him say, actually, yell into his ear, guy, look out, Carl.
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Speaker 1: After hearing the voice, you know, jolted upright. He opened
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Speaker 1: his eyes and he realized he hadn't just blinked. He
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Speaker 1: had fallen asleep at the wheel and was now speeding
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Speaker 1: toward a concrete marker on the side of the highway,
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Speaker 1: And so he grabbed the steering wheel and he yanked
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Speaker 1: it just in time so that he only sideswiped the
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Speaker 1: marker instead of a head on collision, which almost certainly
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Speaker 1: would have killed him. And so Carl he jammed on
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Speaker 1: the brakes and his car came to a screeching stop
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Speaker 1: on the side of the road. And there Carl just,
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Speaker 1: you know, he sat there just taking stock of how
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Speaker 1: close he had just come to dying. His whole body
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Speaker 1: was shaking that he couldn't believe that it just happened.
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Speaker 1: But eventually, you know, he was able to calm down
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Speaker 1: enough to get out of his car and dissess the damage,
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Speaker 1: because he did sideswipe that concrete marker, And when he
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Speaker 1: got out and looked, he saw the damage was actually
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Speaker 1: kind of bad. There was two flat tires and the
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Speaker 1: whole side of his car was totally smashed up and scraped.
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Speaker 1: But ultimately Carl really didn't care. He genuinely felt thankful
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Speaker 1: to be alive. Later that morning, Carl sat at a
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Speaker 1: diner just a few miles down the road, eating some
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Speaker 1: breakfast and reading the morning paper. A passing car had
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Speaker 1: pulled over and helped him patch up his own car
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Speaker 1: just enough to drive to the meeting and then also
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Speaker 1: drive to the Steiner to get something to eat. Carl
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Speaker 1: still felt very rattled from nearly getting into a very
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Speaker 1: likely fatal car accident, but even more than just the
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Speaker 1: fact that he nearly died is Carl now was thinking
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Speaker 1: a lot about that voice that had yelled in his
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Speaker 1: ear and had woken him up and essentially saved him
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Speaker 1: from smashing into the concrete marker. But what really stood
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Speaker 1: out to him was that this voice had not called
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Speaker 1: him Carl. It didn't say Carl, wake up. The voice
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Speaker 1: had said Guy, Watch out. Guy called him guy, and
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Speaker 1: Guy was not his name. But Carl actually had a
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Speaker 1: childhood friend named Peter who called him guy as a nickname.
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Speaker 1: He was like the only person who called Carl guy.
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Speaker 1: And as Carl thought about this voice, he started to
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Speaker 1: think that the sound of the voice really sounded an
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Speaker 1: awful lot like Peter, and so it sounds like Peter,
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Speaker 1: and they're calling me guy, like was that Peter talking
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Speaker 1: to me like that didn't make any sense. Now, keep
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Speaker 1: in mind, what Carl is actually thinking is like his
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Speaker 1: subconscious has like channeled a voice to save himself. He's
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Speaker 1: not literally thinking that, you know, his friend Peter is
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Speaker 1: sitting in the back seat telling him to watch out.
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Speaker 1: But he's just thinking to himself, Carl is, why wouldn't
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Speaker 1: it be like my mom or like you know, a relative,
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Speaker 1: you know, coming in and saving my life. If it's
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Speaker 1: my subconscious doing it, why Peter, like Peter was so random.
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Speaker 1: If that's what it was, Carl and Peter had kind
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Speaker 1: of drifted apart as they grew up. I mean, they
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Speaker 1: were still in touch, but Carl lived in Kansas and
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Speaker 1: Peter was in the military, serving at a naval air
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Speaker 1: base in Texas. Like there was no special reason why
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Speaker 1: Carl would hear Peter's voice instead of somebody else. It
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Speaker 1: just it felt like a completely random thing. Eventually, Carl's
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Speaker 1: thinking that it just must have been my brain firing
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Speaker 1: off in this panicked moment, trying to save my life,
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Speaker 1: and for one reason or another, it came through as
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Speaker 1: like Peter's voice calling me guy, you know whatever, And
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Speaker 1: so ultimately Carl just went back to eating his breakfast
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Speaker 1: and reading the newspaper. But when he flipped the page
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Speaker 1: over and looked at the headline of the next page,
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Speaker 1: he froze. The news story was actually about Carl's childhood friend, Peter.
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Speaker 1: Peter had just died in this horrific MILLI terry training accident. Specifically,
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Speaker 1: he had died in a crash just hours before Carl
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Speaker 1: heard the sound of some man's voice saying, guy, look out.
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Speaker 1: The only person that ever called Carl guy was Peter,
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Speaker 1: and so Carl could never explain how or why any
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Speaker 1: twenty six. On the evening of December twelfth, nineteen sixty six,
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Speaker 1: a forty four year old man named Jose Lrente knocked
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Speaker 1: on the front door of an apartment in the Bronx,
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Speaker 1: which is a neighborhood in New York City. The door
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Speaker 1: opened up just a crack, and Jose saw this woman
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Speaker 1: inside who was eyeing him kind of reluctantly, and then
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Speaker 1: when she saw, you know, who he was and what
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Speaker 1: he was carrying, she kind of, you know, opened the
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Speaker 1: door just wide enough that Jose and also the large
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Speaker 1: bag he was carrying could fit and come inside. Once
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Speaker 1: Jose was inside, the woman immediately shut and bolted the
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Speaker 1: door shut behind him. Then she led Jose into the
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Speaker 1: living room where her son, a twenty four year old
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Speaker 1: man named Ivan Barbosa, was already sitting on the couch.
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Speaker 1: Ivan looked like a guy who had not slept in weeks,
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Speaker 1: and Jose, you know, based on the story he had
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Speaker 1: been told, you know, could understand why. So Jose had
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Speaker 1: a day job as a tailor, but he also had
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Speaker 1: a second and much more unique job. He was a
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Speaker 1: self proclaimed psychic medium, and he conducted spiritual cleansings for
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Speaker 1: people who believed they were being haunted, like Ivan, But
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Speaker 1: Jose did not actually believe in ghosts. He was firmly
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Speaker 1: a skeptic. Now, he marketed himself as a psychic medium,
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Speaker 1: but he knew that the cleansings that he performed were
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Speaker 1: not really supernatural. They were a psychologue. In his experience,
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Speaker 1: if somebody believed they were being haunted, they were actually
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Speaker 1: just suffering from something more mundane, like depression or grief
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Speaker 1: or loneliness. And so when Jose would perform his cleansing
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Speaker 1: ceremonies for these people, like he was about to do
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Speaker 1: for Ivan, you know, he would go in and act
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Speaker 1: very convincing, like he believed what he was doing was
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Speaker 1: truly supernatural, but what he knew he was actually doing
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Speaker 1: was just kind of giving these people a placebo pill.
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Speaker 1: You know, he saw that after these ceremonies, the haunted
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Speaker 1: people they would feel much better, you know, they believed
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Speaker 1: that the haunting was gone, that they were free now,
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Speaker 1: and in many cases they would get much better. And
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Speaker 1: so Jose, you know, he knew he was misleading these people,
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Speaker 1: but he felt like, you know, the ends justified the means,
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Speaker 1: and so on this day, Jose was here at this
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Speaker 1: apartment to do one of these ceremonies for Ivan because
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Speaker 1: Ivan's mother had called Jose earlier that day and said that,
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Speaker 1: you know, Ivan was being haunted by the ghost of
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Speaker 1: this old woman and he wasn't sleeping and he was
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Speaker 1: rack and they just really needed his help and they
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Speaker 1: had heard Jose was somebody who could help. So Jose
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Speaker 1: sat down across from Ivan and just did what he
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Speaker 1: always did. He spoke to Ivan and said, okay, tell
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Speaker 1: me about the haunting. Ivan seemed really, really nervous, but
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Speaker 1: once he sort of calmed down enough to talk, he
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Speaker 1: sort of stammered out that there was this ghost, this
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Speaker 1: old woman who would appear in his room basically every night,
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Speaker 1: and she had been for months. But he said, you know,
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Speaker 1: this woman's expression, it seemed like every night she would
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Speaker 1: get angrier and angrier, and it was just horrifying, to
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Speaker 1: the point where Ivan he was terrified. To go to
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Speaker 1: his room to sleep at night, and so basically he
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Speaker 1: wasn't sleeping. He was just like terrified all the time
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Speaker 1: of this ghost. Jose nodded along very sympathetically, even though
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Speaker 1: you know, secretly he did not believe Ivan was literally
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Speaker 1: being haunted. But what he did believe is that Ivan
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Speaker 1: did believe he was being haunted, and that's what mattered.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's really what he was here to fix.
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Speaker 1: So eventually, after Ivan was done talking, Jose told him
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Speaker 1: that he knew exactly how to help him. He explained
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Speaker 1: that they were going to perform a seance so they
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Speaker 1: could contact this old woman's spirit and basically ask her
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Speaker 1: to leave Ivan alone. Ivan looked very doubtful, but Jose
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Speaker 1: reassured him that he had done this many times before
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Speaker 1: and usually this works, and so Ivan ultimately said, okay,
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Speaker 1: let's do it. So Jose reached over and he opened
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Speaker 1: up his large bag he had brought and he began
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Speaker 1: taking out the supplies that he had brought along for
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Speaker 1: this seance. The first thing he did is he pulled
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Speaker 1: out these big black sheets and he put them over
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Speaker 1: the TV and the radio, because in his experience, you know,
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Speaker 1: this was a good sort of overt way to symbolically
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Speaker 1: shut out the outside world. And then after that, he
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Speaker 1: placed a bunch of small candles in a big circle
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Speaker 1: basically around the living room, and in the center of
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Speaker 1: the circle, in the middle of the living room was
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Speaker 1: a coffee table, and he placed this really old looking
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Speaker 1: bible on the coffee table, and then he also put
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Speaker 1: some incense on the table next to the bible, and
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Speaker 1: then he lit all the candles in the room and
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Speaker 1: he lit the incense. Finally, Jose shot all the blinds
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Speaker 1: in the apartment to make sure the room was as
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Speaker 1: dark as possible, and then he asked Ivan and his
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Speaker 1: mother to come over and sit within the circle of
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Speaker 1: candles basically on the floor in the middle of the
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Speaker 1: living room, right near the coffee table. And so once
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Speaker 1: all of them were sitting down basically in a mini
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Speaker 1: circle of their own, Jose began by grabbing that old
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Speaker 1: bible and reading a prayer out of it, and then
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Speaker 1: afterwards he closed the bible put it back on the table,
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Speaker 1: and then he told Ivan and also Ivan's mom to
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Speaker 1: go ahead and hold hands. All three of them were
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Speaker 1: going to hold hands. And then once they were holding hands,
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Speaker 1: Jose took a deep breath and told them all to
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Speaker 1: close their eyes, and then once they had, he did
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Speaker 1: what he always did at these seances. He spoke in
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Speaker 1: a very calm, clear voice and asked any spirits in
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Speaker 1: the room to please give a sign that they could
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Speaker 1: hear him. Now. Typically, Jose would wait to hear some
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Speaker 1: natural sound in the building, the sound of the building settling,
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Speaker 1: or maybe a gust of wind to rattle the windows,
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Speaker 1: or any sound basically that he could then attribute to
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Speaker 1: a spirit in the room. And then if for some
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Speaker 1: reason some natural sound didn't occur. Once you know, the
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Speaker 1: people's eyes were closed, Jose would sometimes tap his foot
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Speaker 1: while everybody else wasn't looking, and he would say, oh,
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Speaker 1: that's that's the spirit. That's the ghost making contact with us.
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Speaker 1: And so for a minute or so, Jose was totally quiet,
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Speaker 1: you know, holding their hands, their eyes are closed, and
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Speaker 1: he's just listening for any sounds that he could use,
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Speaker 1: and when none came, he was about to tap his
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Speaker 1: foot and sort of initiate the seance that way. But
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Speaker 1: then something happened that Jose had never experienced before. It
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Speaker 1: felt like his entire body suddenly got shocked by like
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Speaker 1: an electric current. His body went rigid and he couldn't move,
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Speaker 1: and then his vision just went completely black. Then there
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Speaker 1: was like the series of bright, confusing images that flashed
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Speaker 1: through his mind. He saw a cup of hot chocolate
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Speaker 1: rattling on a table. He saw a bed sheet being
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Speaker 1: torn by these dirty hands. He saw an open eye,
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Speaker 1: a screaming mouth, a flash of red and silver, then
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Speaker 1: red again. The images cycled over and over in his
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Speaker 1: mind so quickly they kind of became a blur. And
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Speaker 1: suddenly Jose felt himself open his mouth, and he wanted
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Speaker 1: to scream out for help, but instead he heard himself speak.
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Speaker 1: But the voice that came out was not his own.
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Speaker 1: It was like this high pitched, gravelly shriek that almost
19:30
Speaker 1: seemed like it was coming through Jose from another world.
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Speaker 1: There was a rhythm to it, you know, maybe words.
19:36
Speaker 1: But everything was happening so fast, and the images were
19:39
Speaker 1: still cycling through his mind. He couldn't make sense of anything.
19:42
Speaker 1: But then, just as quickly as all of this had begun,
19:45
Speaker 1: you know, the voice that was coming through him stopped.
19:48
Speaker 1: Jose's mind went completely blank and his body went limp,
19:52
Speaker 1: and he sort of slowly came to and he found
19:55
Speaker 1: himself lying on the floor, feeling completely disoriented. For a second,
19:59
Speaker 1: he didn't even know where he was. But you know,
20:01
Speaker 1: then he kind of came to and he realized he
20:03
Speaker 1: was in the living room of this apartment. He saw
20:05
Speaker 1: all the candles in the circle. He remembered he had
20:08
Speaker 1: come here to do the seance, but clearly something had
20:11
Speaker 1: gone wrong. And now also he found his body was
20:14
Speaker 1: sore and his throat felt raw, Like what just happened?
20:17
Speaker 1: He didn't even know now. As Jose is sort of
20:19
Speaker 1: coming to and realizing, like, okay, I'm back to reality,
20:23
Speaker 1: the first thought he had as he processed whatever that
20:26
Speaker 1: was was that he must have had some kind of
20:28
Speaker 1: seizure and that he now very likely needed medical attention.
20:32
Speaker 1: But as he began to look around the room and
20:35
Speaker 1: really take stock of his surroundings, he noticed three things.
20:39
Speaker 1: One the front door of the apartment was wide open. Two,
20:43
Speaker 1: Ivan's mother was staring at him with this completely horrified
20:47
Speaker 1: expression like Jose was possessed. And three Ivan was gone.
20:53
Speaker 1: Jose asked Ivan's mom, like, what happened, Where's Ivan? What's
20:57
Speaker 1: going on? And what she told him completely contradicted everything
21:02
Speaker 1: Jose thought he believed about ghosts and about seances. According
21:06
Speaker 1: to Ivan's mom, during the seance, Jose had at some
21:10
Speaker 1: point entered some kind of a trance. At first his
21:14
Speaker 1: body had gone sort of rigid, then his eyes rolled
21:16
Speaker 1: back in his head, and then he kind of sat
21:18
Speaker 1: upright and looked right at Ivan. And as he did,
21:22
Speaker 1: he began speaking in this this shrill, gravelly voice that
21:26
Speaker 1: almost sounded like an old woman. She told Jose it
21:29
Speaker 1: really sounded like it was the ghost that apparently had
21:31
Speaker 1: been haunting her son, like she had taken over Jose's body.
21:35
Speaker 1: And then you know, this ghost, apparently speaking through Jose,
21:39
Speaker 1: had said something to Ivan that was so horrifying. Ivan
21:43
Speaker 1: had literally jumped up and sprinted out the door. Now, Jose,
21:48
Speaker 1: he's hearing this and he can't believe what she's saying.
21:51
Speaker 1: But he's also thinking, like this woman has already convinced
21:53
Speaker 1: herself her son as being haunted by a ghost. She's
21:56
Speaker 1: just confirming whatever's happened here must have to do with
21:59
Speaker 1: the ghost. Like none of what she's just said could
22:02
Speaker 1: have happened like that is absolutely not possible. I clearly
22:05
Speaker 1: just had some sort of medical emergency, Like I did
22:08
Speaker 1: not get possessed by a ghost, even though somewhere in
22:12
Speaker 1: the back of Jose's mind he doesn't know what's happened
22:14
Speaker 1: to him. He can't make sense of what's happened, but
22:16
Speaker 1: he's telling himself there is a logical explanation for this,
22:20
Speaker 1: It can't be ghosts. But at the same time, Jose
22:23
Speaker 1: also felt kind of bad because clearly, you know, this
22:26
Speaker 1: medical event that he believes he's gone through had frightened
22:29
Speaker 1: Ivan so badly, who was already very mentally fragile, that
22:32
Speaker 1: he's he's fled off somewhere and you know, now who
22:35
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. But you know, at this point,
22:37
Speaker 1: Jose just felt like this whole thing had gone completely
22:40
Speaker 1: off the rails. He didn't want to be here anymore.
22:42
Speaker 1: He wanted to stop pretending to be a psychic medium,
22:45
Speaker 1: and so he just stood up. He gathered his things.
22:47
Speaker 1: He apologized to Ivan's mother, who was telling him please stay,
22:50
Speaker 1: like we got to figure out what's going on here,
22:52
Speaker 1: but he said, I can't. I have to go. You know,
22:54
Speaker 1: I'm sure Ivan will turn up soon. I'm sorry, you know,
22:57
Speaker 1: best of luck to you, and then Jose walked out
22:59
Speaker 1: the door and went home. Now, after Jose got home,
23:02
Speaker 1: He wasn't thinking that Ivan was in any real peril.
23:05
Speaker 1: He just felt like, you know, Ivan got spooked and
23:08
Speaker 1: he will come back eventually, Like there's no real risk here.
23:10
Speaker 1: You know, they're dealing with some sort of mental breakdown.
23:13
Speaker 1: They're not really being haunted. He'll be back, everything's fine.
23:17
Speaker 1: But Ivan didn't come back home, and after enough time passed,
23:20
Speaker 1: his mother called the police and they began looking for him,
23:24
Speaker 1: and eventually they would find Ivan. He was in a
23:27
Speaker 1: hotel room one town over and he was dead from
23:30
Speaker 1: an obviously self inflicted gunshot wound. Now, at first the
23:34
Speaker 1: police just decided, okay, this is a classic case of
23:36
Speaker 1: a guy who has taken his own life, and that
23:39
Speaker 1: was really all there was to it. But Ivan's mother,
23:41
Speaker 1: when she heard that, she was adamant that they were wrong.
23:44
Speaker 1: There was more to this story, and she began telling
23:48
Speaker 1: the police over and over again that you have to
23:51
Speaker 1: talk to Jose because right before my son bolted and
23:56
Speaker 1: took his own life, we had this seance with Jose,
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Speaker 1: a psychic medium, and Jose he said something to my
24:04
Speaker 1: son that that has to be part of the reason
24:07
Speaker 1: he ultimately died. Now, before I tell you what we
24:10
Speaker 1: believe happened to Ivan, we need to step back and
24:13
Speaker 1: sort of understand who he believed was haunting him, because
24:17
Speaker 1: he didn't just believe some random woman, some old woman
24:20
Speaker 1: was haunting him. He believed the person haunting him was
24:24
Speaker 1: this woman named Elsie Litt, who had actually lived in
24:27
Speaker 1: his neighborhood but had been murdered nine months before that
24:31
Speaker 1: seance where he fled and then ultimately died in the
24:33
Speaker 1: hotel room, and her murder was unsolved, and so for Ivan,
24:38
Speaker 1: it was incredibly threatening to be seeing this woman who
24:41
Speaker 1: has been murdered and we don't know who's killed her
24:44
Speaker 1: coming into his room at night looking angrier and angrier.
24:47
Speaker 1: Ivan felt threatened by her. He felt genuinely terrified that
24:51
Speaker 1: this woman is like out for vengeance and he's sort
24:54
Speaker 1: of in her crosshairs. In essence, Ivan felt like he
24:58
Speaker 1: was sort of being blame for this woman's murder and
25:01
Speaker 1: she was here to sort of exact her revenge effectively
25:04
Speaker 1: on him, and so it was driving him crazy. He's
25:07
Speaker 1: terrified all the time. And so here comes Jose to
25:10
Speaker 1: have this seance, and what happens in the middle of
25:14
Speaker 1: the seance when Jose basically goes into this weird, you know.
25:17
Speaker 1: Seizure slash possession is after he went into the state
25:21
Speaker 1: and he's kind of rigid for a second, his eyes
25:23
Speaker 1: are back in his head. He suddenly sits up and
25:26
Speaker 1: he looks right at Ivan and he says, in that shrill,
25:29
Speaker 1: womanly voice, you killed me, and you're going to die
25:34
Speaker 1: the same way, and then he snapped out of the trance.
25:37
Speaker 1: Doesn't remember any of it. But Ivan he took this
25:40
Speaker 1: as like confirmation that she was after him, this ghost
25:43
Speaker 1: was targeting him, and he was so scared he literally
25:46
Speaker 1: just ran away. But ultimately the ghost, you know, persisted
25:50
Speaker 1: in his life. He lost his mind and ultimately took
25:53
Speaker 1: his life in the hotel room. And so Ivan's mother
25:56
Speaker 1: is like adamantly telling the police, you gotta talk to
25:59
Speaker 1: Jose because he told my son you killed me and
26:03
Speaker 1: you're going to die the same way. And it sent
26:05
Speaker 1: him off running and now he's dead. And so the
26:07
Speaker 1: police they're like, Okay, I don't believe any of this.
26:10
Speaker 1: I don't believe that this seance was actually supernatural. I
26:14
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on here, but none of this
26:16
Speaker 1: makes any sense. However, Ivan's mother was so persistent that
26:21
Speaker 1: they would finally go and talk to Jose. And when
26:24
Speaker 1: police spoke to Jose and they asked him about the seance,
26:27
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, my goodness, yeah, I did this seance.
26:31
Speaker 1: I don't believe in any of this stuff, and I
26:33
Speaker 1: don't know what happened. I think I had like a
26:36
Speaker 1: seizure or something. I don't even know what I was saying.
26:38
Speaker 1: I don't remember any of it. All I know is that,
26:41
Speaker 1: you know, during the time that presumably I was possessed,
26:44
Speaker 1: I was just seeing these weird visions. That's really all
26:47
Speaker 1: I remember. And so the police asked him, like, well,
26:50
Speaker 1: what visions did you see? You know, humorous and so
26:53
Speaker 1: Jose he began to think about what he saw. He
26:55
Speaker 1: actually remembered, really specifically a few images that stood out
26:59
Speaker 1: to him the most, and he said, I saw this
27:02
Speaker 1: torn bed sheet that was being manipulated with these dirty hands.
27:06
Speaker 1: I saw a silver sliver light like a knife or something.
27:10
Speaker 1: And I saw a cup of hot chocolate kind of
27:13
Speaker 1: rattling on a table. But to be honest, I just
27:16
Speaker 1: think I was having a medical emergency. I don't really
27:18
Speaker 1: know what it was. And I came to and Ivan's
27:21
Speaker 1: Mom's convinced I was possessed by this woman. I have
27:24
Speaker 1: no idea what's going on. I gotta be honest. I
27:26
Speaker 1: don't have any memory of speaking to Ivan. I have
27:29
Speaker 1: no idea what happened to her. Now. Jose really didn't
27:31
Speaker 1: think anything he was saying was particularly important. He thought
27:34
Speaker 1: what he was saying was kind of nonsensical, and the
27:36
Speaker 1: police would certainly not follow up on any of this.
27:40
Speaker 1: But the police, after he said, you know what he
27:42
Speaker 1: saw in his mind's eye, they said, tell us again
27:46
Speaker 1: what you saw, you know in this this blackout you had,
27:49
Speaker 1: And so again Jose went over it, talking about the
27:51
Speaker 1: bed sheet, the silver knife, or whatever he saw in
27:54
Speaker 1: the hot chocolate. And the police were astonished because it
27:58
Speaker 1: would turn out Elsie Litt, who had been murdered nine
28:02
Speaker 1: months earlier. She had been strangled by a dirty bed
28:06
Speaker 1: sheet that had been wrapped around her neck. There had
28:08
Speaker 1: been a cup of hot chocolate on the bedside table
28:11
Speaker 1: where she was found, and she had been stabbed repeatedly
28:15
Speaker 1: with a silver knife. Those details were not public. Nobody
28:20
Speaker 1: knew those details, and Jose certainly had no reason to
28:23
Speaker 1: know those details. But here he is potentially being possessed
28:26
Speaker 1: by the ghost of Elsie Litt seeing images effectively of
28:30
Speaker 1: the crime scene. It was just too much, and so
28:33
Speaker 1: the police, ultimately, based on the hallucinations that Jose had
28:37
Speaker 1: during the seance, did some digging into Ivan to see
28:42
Speaker 1: if maybe there's a reason Ivan's being targeted by this ghost.
28:46
Speaker 1: Then it would turn out Ivan was the killer. He
28:50
Speaker 1: murdered Elsie Lit and apparently her ghost came back to
28:55
Speaker 1: serve himjustice. Police would officially close the Elsie murder investigation
28:59
Speaker 1: and would name Ivan as her killer. As for Jose,
29:03
Speaker 1: he could never explain what actually happened during that seance,
29:06
Speaker 1: but because of his experience, he never dabbled in the
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Speaker 1: spirit world. Again. Thank you so much for watching. Let
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