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99 Are Demons Using UFO Abductions to Reclaim Earth? · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Iya Jupiter. This is episode ninety
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Speaker 1: nine and I had on wonderful and powerful Karen Wilkinson.
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Speaker 1: She is an abductee and the author of the book
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Speaker 1: Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest, a true story of adduction. She's
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Speaker 1: been a doctor her whole life. She is a woman
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Speaker 1: of de religious faith and found her salvation within that
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Speaker 2: with Karen Wilkinson.
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Speaker 3: Hi, Jim, I'm how we do. I'm wanting to be
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Speaker 3: here on the show.
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Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you're finally here. I was contacted
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Speaker 1: about six months ago by my moderator. Shout out to
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Speaker 1: Pam Stephanich. I don't know if you probably know where
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Speaker 1: she is. She is the power behind the show. She
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Speaker 1: always is looking out for me, and she said, you
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Speaker 1: need to reach out to Karen Wilkinson, and I did,
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Speaker 1: and now you're here, and it's pretty crazy.
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Speaker 3: Finally if we've been trying to get this scheduled for
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Speaker 3: a while, so I'm so glad it finally happened. I'm
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Speaker 3: so glad I'm here. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, it's great. Great. Karen for those who
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Speaker 1: don't know, tell us a little bit about yourself and
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Speaker 1: you know where we can find you. Yeah, things of
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Speaker 1: that nature.
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Speaker 3: Please sure, Well, my website I've got here on the
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Speaker 3: screen for y'all. It's Karen Wilkinson Author dot com. You
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Speaker 3: can find me there, and on there you can find
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Speaker 3: my link tree which will link you into social media
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Speaker 3: and where you can find the book and where you
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Speaker 3: can contact me. And if y'all want to contact me,
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Speaker 3: that is the easiest way. Just contact me through my
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Speaker 3: website because I don't have It's hard to get through
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Speaker 3: contact on social media because I get a lot of
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Speaker 3: junk in there. So just contact me through my website
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Speaker 3: goes straight to my inbox. If you've tried that and
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Speaker 3: didn't get a hold of me, try again, because we
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Speaker 3: just switched over the website, so there might have been
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Speaker 3: some confusion. Just for anyone who might be listening and
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Speaker 3: said I tried that, it didn't work, I'm so sorry.
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Speaker 3: Try again, please, because I do want to get your messages.
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Speaker 3: So I'm Karen Wilkinson, and I am a former UFO
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Speaker 3: abductee experiencer and I have spent you know, years and
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Speaker 3: years researching, studying, figuring out who, what these things are,
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Speaker 3: why they took me, how to stop it, and the
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Speaker 3: process of me beginning to share my story put me
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Speaker 3: in contact with la Marzouli, who some of you might know.
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Speaker 3: You can find my book on his website Lamerzuley dot com.
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Speaker 3: And he is the one who convinced me to write
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Speaker 3: this book, or suggested that I write this book. It's
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Speaker 3: a little bit better. I had never shared my story before,
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Speaker 3: and honestly, I did not know who he was, and
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Speaker 3: I was just led to him and shared my story
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Speaker 3: with him and ended up in the fourth movie in
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Speaker 3: his UFO series on abductions, and then again in the
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Speaker 3: sixth movie and the tenth in that series, which is
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Speaker 3: an excellent series of movies, documentary movies. And from there
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Speaker 3: it just went into writing the book and it's been
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Speaker 3: an incredible adventure, not something I ever expected to do
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Speaker 3: and never tul to share this story. You know, the
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Speaker 3: stigma behind it is still still so strong.
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Speaker 1: You know, I can only imagine it must be good, though,
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Speaker 1: you know, when you're in the trench with these, you know, situations,
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Speaker 1: I can't compare. I kind of can't compare, you know,
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Speaker 1: being a person who's had or still once in a
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Speaker 1: while has anxiety problems, and you think that you're kind
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Speaker 1: of like, you know, you're losing your mind, and it's
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Speaker 1: just good to know that there's somebody else who is
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Speaker 1: losing their mind the same way you are.
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Speaker 3: That's been the most incredible part of this is being
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Speaker 3: able to connect with other people who've had similar experiences,
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Speaker 3: because I find for most of them, they're like, I
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Speaker 3: never thought i'd be able to talk to else. I
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Speaker 3: never thought i'd meet someone else who'd been through this.
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Speaker 3: I never thought there would be someone who understands how
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Speaker 3: I feel or what I've been through. And I'm not
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Speaker 3: a counselor, and I'm not you know, any of those things,
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Speaker 3: but just someone else who's been through it. And I
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Speaker 3: get comments almost daily on the book from people who
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Speaker 3: say thank you for just sharing information and writing this,
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Speaker 3: and it's very humbling because you know, we those of
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Speaker 3: us who've been through it, we've all been through a
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Speaker 3: similar thing, and I just figured a way to share
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Speaker 3: it and try to help other people through that. And
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Speaker 3: that's really the goal of the book is just to
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Speaker 3: share the experiences, help other people through it, share what
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Speaker 3: it is, and answer some questions along the way if
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Speaker 3: I can and make it okay to talk about because
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Speaker 3: for most people it's just it's still not okay to
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Speaker 3: talk about. The subject is still so taboo. So I
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Speaker 3: want people to be more comfortable talking about it because
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Speaker 3: it is becoming more and more mainstream every day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what shows like this are for. It's the
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Speaker 1: same way. It's just kind of helps you springboard that,
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Speaker 1: you know, that information forward. There might be somebody within
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Speaker 1: my you know, within my subs or someone runs across
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Speaker 1: the channel and they go, oh wow, this is this
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Speaker 1: This Okay, I've had that kind of Oh so it
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Speaker 1: wasn't a dream or or oh yeah I can, I can,
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Speaker 1: you know, I can understand where she's coming from. And
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Speaker 1: that's basically my goal is to bring people like yourself
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Speaker 1: and many others you know that bigfoot encounters and and
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Speaker 1: others of that nature paranormal and it's just like I
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Speaker 1: don't you know, I grew up in a Baptist home.
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Speaker 1: We couldn't talk about this, So that's kind of the
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Speaker 1: same things. Uh So, Karen, do me a favor, could
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Speaker 1: you you know, however you want to go into it.
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Speaker 1: How did this start for you? When did you you know,
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Speaker 1: when did these occurrences start to happen?
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Speaker 3: Sure, well, I was taken. From my earliest memories. There
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Speaker 3: isn't a time in my life that I don't remember
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Speaker 3: being taken against my will by what people commonly call aliens,
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Speaker 3: non human alien entities. So I believe it was a
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Speaker 3: hereditary kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: It runs in families quite often, and I write a
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Speaker 3: little bit about that in the book as well. But
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Speaker 3: from my earliest memories, there just wasn't a time that
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Speaker 3: I wasn't taken. Typically, when I was little, I would
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Speaker 3: feel their presence before I would even see them. It
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Speaker 3: was terrifying because at nighttime, I, you know, would go
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Speaker 3: to bed and I'd want to find a place to hide,
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Speaker 3: and there's no place you can hide. You can't hide
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Speaker 3: from them, you know. And I remember having a conversation
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Speaker 3: with a sibling about that, and the other sibling and
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Speaker 3: I don't ever talk about anyone else, this else's story
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Speaker 3: than my own, so I will speak of others very benignly.
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Speaker 3: But this sibling said to me, we can't hide from them.
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Speaker 3: They can see us no matter where we are, you know,
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Speaker 3: which tells you, you know, And we didn't know what
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Speaker 3: to call them, you know, But we're having these conversations
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Speaker 3: as little kids, you know, four or five, six years old,
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Speaker 3: having conversations about them. And you have to remember back
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Speaker 3: in the sixties and seventies, it wasn't there weren't places
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Speaker 3: to go to learn about them. We didn't know whom
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Speaker 3: what they were. The vocabulary certainly wasn't there for us,
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Speaker 3: so you know, I didn't know to call them the
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Speaker 3: grays or little ones or the aliens or whatever. You know.
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Speaker 3: There was some talk of UFOs here and there, you know,
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Speaker 3: and stories and things, but it just wasn't mainstream at all,
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Speaker 3: and so even to tell someone what was happening was
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Speaker 3: difficult because there's no vocabulary behind it as a little kid,
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Speaker 3: and when you start to talk about these things, people
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Speaker 3: think it's a nightmare or it's you know, or you're
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Speaker 3: imagining something, or you know, they don't think it's real.
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Speaker 3: And even if they you could, even if you could
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Speaker 3: explain it well, which you couldn't. But when I was little,
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Speaker 3: you know, one of the common things that would happen
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Speaker 3: is there would sometimes be a bright light through a window,
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Speaker 3: or everything would get quiet, especially in the kind treat
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Speaker 3: like crickets and cicadas, and the normal nighttime noises would
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Speaker 3: just stop and it would become silent, almost as if
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Speaker 3: I was already pulled into another dimensional space. And that's
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Speaker 3: what I think, you know, now looking back, that that
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Speaker 3: was because at that point I would see typically at
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Speaker 3: least two, sometimes more of what people refer to as
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Speaker 3: gray aliens. They were just shorter, they had the big
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Speaker 3: bulbous heads. They were more beige kind of in color.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the color is really hard to describe, almost
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Speaker 3: kind of a beige gray. But and it's dark, it's
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Speaker 3: hard to see them at night, and they would sometimes
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Speaker 3: be at the foot of bed. Sometimes they would be
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Speaker 3: outside the window or sometimes hovering somewhere in the room
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Speaker 3: or in a corner, you know, just different places. That
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Speaker 3: in itself was terrifying. And they had the big black
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Speaker 3: screen looking eyes and their eyes didn't move. Their eyes
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Speaker 3: were just like fixed like a screen, and it was
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Speaker 3: terrifying with the kid, you know, Yeah, there were they
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Speaker 3: were different because when I was taken and would get
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Speaker 3: to the places that they took me, there were other
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Speaker 3: entities there that looked similar to these little grays. But
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Speaker 3: whereas these little grays were all the same like cookie Cutter,
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Speaker 3: just all almost identical. The other ones were different heights,
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Speaker 3: their faces moved, their eyes moved, they had like facial expressions,
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Speaker 3: you know, their foreheads would wrinkle and things like that.
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Speaker 3: And so it was clear that these little ones were
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Speaker 3: some sort of a you know, almost robotic like a
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Speaker 3: meal or autonomous. Yeah, exactly. It was a created entity
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Speaker 3: to come and get me or you know, anyone else
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Speaker 3: who would be taken and then deliver me to wherever
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Speaker 3: I was going. And so but when these things sell
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Speaker 3: back up again a little bit. So when they would
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Speaker 3: show up, sometimes they had a very bad smell to them,
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Speaker 3: sort of like sulfur dead animal urine kind of you know,
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Speaker 3: ammonia e just depended. And some of them didn't have
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Speaker 3: any sense at all. And I've written a lot about
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Speaker 3: that's a whole separate conversation about who and what these
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Speaker 3: think grays are, and so I won't go down that
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Speaker 3: road just yet. But because that's a whole hour long
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Speaker 3: conversation in itself, and we can hit that, We can
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Speaker 3: hit on my topic in a little bit if you
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Speaker 3: want to. But they would show up and then I
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Speaker 3: would be usually put into a state of what I
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Speaker 3: call waking paralysis. You know, people talk about sleep paralysis,
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Speaker 3: where you are asleep but you're aware, you can't wake up.
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Speaker 3: This is different. This is like when you're awake or
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Speaker 3: awakened by something, but then your body is just put
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Speaker 3: into a paralysis state. So I couldn't move, I couldn't yell,
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Speaker 3: I couldn't scream. And even if I could scream before
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Speaker 3: they put me in that state, if there was someone
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Speaker 3: else in the room with me, like a sibling or
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Speaker 3: you know, husband or something later in life, they wouldn't rouse.
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Speaker 3: It's like they were put into a state of just
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Speaker 3: this deep sleep, like a trance, like they could not
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Speaker 3: wake them up, and put into a deep sleep where
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Speaker 3: nothing would rouse them. And at that point I would
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Speaker 3: be general Usually in the typical situation, I would be
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Speaker 3: levitated off the bed and at this you know, I
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Speaker 3: can't move at this point, and it's almost like I
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Speaker 3: was in some sort of bubble, because then I would
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Speaker 3: be taken through a window or through the ceiling or
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Speaker 3: you know, through a wall or down a hallway and out,
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Speaker 3: you know, And it sounds crazy, but there's just this
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Speaker 3: feeling and it's so hard to describe, but those of
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Speaker 3: us have been taken of all. Had this happen where
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Speaker 3: you go through what seems to be a solid object, Yes,
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Speaker 3: but they are dealing with what we call and after
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Speaker 3: David Jacobs coins in his Book's Future Physics, where you're
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Speaker 3: dealing with physics that are beyond our understanding. I think
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Speaker 3: that when they would come to take me, they would
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Speaker 3: put me into almost sort of a space time warp
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Speaker 3: bubble where that's how they were able to do that.
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Speaker 3: So I'm outside of this space, outside of this time.
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Speaker 3: Because you hear a lot about people saying missing time.
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Speaker 3: Yet time didn't pass the same when I was taken
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Speaker 3: or when I was gone, you know, come back sometimes
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Speaker 3: fifteen seconds earlier than when I left. Who oh yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: During the day, I'd be sitting somewhere, you know, maybe
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Speaker 3: even in school or something like that, and all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm back in my seat, and I know
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Speaker 3: what's going to happen for the next fifteen or thirty seconds, because.
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Speaker 1: Normally doesn't last time. Yeah, maybe five seconds, maybe.
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Speaker 3: Like fifteen thirty seconds, you know, and happens over and
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Speaker 3: over again. You're like, I've you know, memori has been compromised.
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Speaker 3: But I know something's happened, and there's this feeling get
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Speaker 3: for me posts being taken where it lingers and you
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Speaker 3: can still feel this, and it's it's almost it's like
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Speaker 3: a seventeen cents, you know, it's like a it's so
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Speaker 3: hard to describe because unless you've experienced it, because you
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Speaker 3: could still feel the effects, the after effects of what happened.
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Speaker 3: It's because you've been pushed into a different into an
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Speaker 3: area where space and time don't exist the same way.
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Speaker 3: My body was aging more slowly, and they were for
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Speaker 3: different surgeries when I was younger. They'd be like, your
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Speaker 3: chronological age and your physical age aren't matching up. It's
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Speaker 3: like your body has aged more slowly. Well, if I
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Speaker 3: was spending time outside of this time, that makes sense.
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Speaker 3: And I notice that has happened to other abductees as.
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Speaker 1: Well, So I didn't know that at all. Wow.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's some really interesting and nonmalist things that happened,
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Speaker 3: and then the injuries that come along with it. And
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Speaker 3: in the book, I provide a government report that came
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Speaker 3: out in and I think it was twenty twenty one
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Speaker 3: or twenty twenty two that lists the injuries that the
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Speaker 3: government is aware of that are part of what happens
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Speaker 3: when you're exposed to these beings, these craft and you know,
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Speaker 3: those of us who've been taken, we have almost everything
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Speaker 3: on this huge list. I think there's like two hundred
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Speaker 3: things on this list, from missing pregnancies to bone growth anomalies,
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Speaker 3: which I have in spades, to all kinds your autoimmune disorders,
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Speaker 3: to lesions to burns, different things that are very hard
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Speaker 3: to describe, legions on your brain, sclerosis, things like that.
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Speaker 3: So the after effects that we have, you know, for
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Speaker 3: those to say, well there's no proof, there's so much
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Speaker 3: physical proof out there of that these things happen. But
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Speaker 3: at that point when I was taken, I would be
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Speaker 3: generally go into a state of sleep, or they would
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Speaker 3: you know, kind of put me into a state of
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Speaker 3: sleep where I would wake up sometimes on an exam
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Speaker 3: table and you know, I'm a little kid. They're doing
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Speaker 3: things to me. I don't know what they're doing, usually
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Speaker 3: you know, without my clothing, without my pajamas, because usually
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Speaker 3: it was at night. Sometimes i'd wake up at this
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Speaker 3: what looked like banks of elevator doors and they would
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Speaker 3: escort me through and these elevators would just go down
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Speaker 3: and down and down, and then I would get on
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Speaker 3: what I called when I was little, the sideways elevators,
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Speaker 3: because when I was younger, you know, vehicles made a
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Speaker 3: lot of noise, trains, cars, anything, and it wasn't like
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Speaker 3: today where we have electric vehicles. So I think it
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Speaker 3: was some sort of high speed train. But all I
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Speaker 3: could equate it with was similar to being on an elevator,
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Speaker 3: but it didn't go up and down. It went at angles,
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Speaker 3: up and down or side to side, things like that,
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Speaker 3: and that would take me to wherever I was going.
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Speaker 3: I believe I was generally an underground bases. I don't
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Speaker 3: know if they were underground underwater, who knows. You know,
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Speaker 3: it's hard to tell when you're there. But these places
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Speaker 3: were huge, I mean, bigger than football stadiums and you know,
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Speaker 3: airports and all that kind of thing put together. They
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Speaker 3: just mazes of hallways and stairwells and elevators and rooms
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Speaker 3: and you know, strangely lit. Some areas were bright, some
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Speaker 3: areas were super dark, just and there were different types
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Speaker 3: of entities there. There were humans there working alongside them.
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Speaker 3: There were outfits that clearly looked like military outfits, but
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Speaker 3: not specific like when you for those of us who
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Speaker 3: have military families or ben in the military, you can
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Speaker 3: recognize the branch of service usually just by you know, immediately,
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Speaker 3: unless you're in a very specific kind of you know,
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Speaker 3: different fatigues, which then everyone kind of matches. But there's
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Speaker 3: usually next insignia. Sorry, yes, of some sort.
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Speaker 1: I have a question. I have a question now. You
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Speaker 1: you often hear to say people are taking on to
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Speaker 1: these ships, and you also hear that sometime during this
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Speaker 1: or you know, wherever you were that sometimes during this,
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Speaker 1: you know, the situation that the people become somehow conscious
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Speaker 1: of them. And my question to you is, why would
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Speaker 1: that happen? You know, I'm just asking. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: I just want to know your fear question. That's why
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Speaker 1: would you know? You know, species is able to you know,
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Speaker 1: transverse time and space, maybe dimensional wormholes. I don't know
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Speaker 1: exactly how they're getting here, or they're coming from the sea.
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Speaker 1: That could also be a possibility. If they have that
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Speaker 1: ability to do that and pass you through a solid object,
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you have the ability to make it so
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Speaker 1: that you wouldn't remember absolutely.
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Speaker 3: So there's two things there, and I'll go back to
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Speaker 3: where I think they're from. Because I think that's a
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Speaker 3: very good one. There's a couple of reasons why some
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Speaker 3: of us remember and some of us don't. They do
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Speaker 3: have the ability to kind of wipe your memory, sort
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Speaker 3: of like the men in black movies. You know, it's
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Speaker 3: a little thing similar to the The end result is similar.
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Speaker 3: What they do is they provide let's call it a
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Speaker 3: screen memory, which gives you makes you think you were
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Speaker 3: somewhere else or doing something else, or experiencing something else
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Speaker 3: during the time. That's very common, or you're just in
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Speaker 3: a sleep state and you know, they can keep you
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Speaker 3: in that state and not wake you up. But they
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Speaker 3: don't have complete control over the human brain, the human soul,
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Speaker 3: the human spirit. That is something that we uniquely have
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Speaker 3: and that we are uniquely in control inter connection with
19:26
Speaker 3: our creator that we have, you know God. So I
19:28
Speaker 3: think that that's where there's there are some issues. And
19:31
Speaker 3: for me, when I was about five or six years old,
19:34
Speaker 3: I think it was like six years old, I really
19:37
Speaker 3: had just a break a complete breakdown. They found me
19:42
Speaker 3: huddled in the corner of a school bathroom stall and
19:44
Speaker 3: my mom had to come get me, and I was
19:46
Speaker 3: just in the corner of the stall rocking, holding on
19:48
Speaker 3: my knees and saying, I don't want them to take
19:51
Speaker 3: me anymore. I don't want them to touch me anymore.
19:54
Speaker 3: She didn't know who I was talking about, the little ones,
19:56
Speaker 3: the ones that come and get me. She thought maybe
19:58
Speaker 3: it was big kids or or someone else, or someone
20:01
Speaker 3: was bothering me. She coaxed me out, took me to
20:04
Speaker 3: the doctor to get an exam because she thought maybe
20:06
Speaker 3: I'd been abused in some way. And he's like, there's
20:09
Speaker 3: unusual marks, sure, but you know I had a crazy
20:13
Speaker 3: burn mark on my back, stuff like that. But whatever
20:16
Speaker 3: happened to her, she's young, she'll forget. You know, this
20:18
Speaker 3: is you know, sixties and seventies is a different time.
20:20
Speaker 3: And they didn't know who I was talking about. There
20:23
Speaker 3: was no one there for me to point the finger at.
20:27
Speaker 3: I realized at that point, you know, so young, that
20:31
Speaker 3: no one was going to be able to come and
20:33
Speaker 3: help me or save me. And I literally created this
20:37
Speaker 3: dissociation where I would just let my mind just not
20:43
Speaker 3: engage when they would take me, so that I didn't
20:46
Speaker 3: have to experience the trauma that I was going through
20:49
Speaker 3: because that I was not there right. So, when you
20:54
Speaker 3: do engage like that, they have so little control over
20:58
Speaker 3: your mind because you have literally put a steel wall
21:01
Speaker 3: down between you and them. And I talk to other
21:06
Speaker 3: formerfveuctees experiencers who have memories as I do, and I
21:10
Speaker 3: don't remember everything, don't get me wrong. I only have
21:12
Speaker 3: some memories of some events, you know, and patchy memories
21:17
Speaker 3: of beginnings and ends here and there are middle parts,
21:20
Speaker 3: but not complete memories of everything. But I think when
21:23
Speaker 3: you have that dissociation, it allows you to be experiencing
21:28
Speaker 3: these things but not act as if you're conscious of
21:32
Speaker 3: them at the time. So it's hard to erase or
21:35
Speaker 3: to control someone's memory when you're not focusing on that event.
21:42
Speaker 3: And so then it allows you to bring that back
21:43
Speaker 3: to the forefront later and you know it happened, you're
21:47
Speaker 3: just refusing to acknowledge it. But it doesn't mean memory's
21:51
Speaker 3: not there. It doesn't mean the event didn't happens, just
21:53
Speaker 3: you're not going to deal with it emotionally or physically.
21:56
Speaker 3: And that happens to people in all kinds of different
21:59
Speaker 3: traumatic situationsations, you know, And it's a protective mechanism. It's
22:02
Speaker 3: kind of built into us. So for those of us
22:05
Speaker 3: who did that we find that we're when we're comfortable
22:09
Speaker 3: enough and we feel safe enough, it's easier to bring
22:12
Speaker 3: those memories forward, right because there it's not like we
22:16
Speaker 3: don't have the memories. It's not like we have to
22:17
Speaker 3: go through hypnosis or regression to get them back. It's
22:21
Speaker 3: just that we didn't want to think about them, so
22:24
Speaker 3: we just tucked them away and left them there until
22:27
Speaker 3: we were comfortable and safe enough to actually start dealing
22:31
Speaker 3: with those memories. So I think that is why they're
22:35
Speaker 3: not able to completely erase the memories of some people,
22:40
Speaker 3: you know. And I think there's different reasons. And you know,
22:42
Speaker 3: they're not perfect. They are fallible beings. They are a
22:45
Speaker 3: created race of beings, as we are a created race
22:48
Speaker 3: of beings. No created race of beings is going to
22:51
Speaker 3: be perfect except creative, you know.
22:54
Speaker 1: So there's no they have that can circumvent or cut
22:59
Speaker 1: the tie with our consciousness in our creator exactly.
23:02
Speaker 3: They can try to rop they can try to get
23:05
Speaker 3: in the way of it. They can try to, you know,
23:07
Speaker 3: but they can't.
23:08
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I think it's a perfect way to the
23:10
Speaker 1: way you said is perfectly thank you.
23:12
Speaker 3: So I think that's where that comes in and because
23:15
Speaker 3: I've had to think about that a long time, because
23:16
Speaker 3: that's a really common question I get asked a lot
23:19
Speaker 3: from experiences and non experiences alike. Yeah, you have to
23:24
Speaker 3: think about it. And and for us that those of
23:27
Speaker 3: us who have been taken, that that seems to be
23:29
Speaker 3: the common threat is that when we dissociate, they can't
23:32
Speaker 3: get through all right.
23:34
Speaker 1: So you so you felt like you were taken into
23:37
Speaker 1: you know, to get you back to the storyline. Answered
23:39
Speaker 1: the question, thank you. So you felt like you were
23:42
Speaker 1: taken to an underground base or something of this nature,
23:45
Speaker 1: dark dark areas, light areas, mm.
23:48
Speaker 3: Hmm, yeah, just huge. I mean these things were very
23:50
Speaker 3: well organized, these air at these places that I was taken.
23:53
Speaker 3: I mean there was just very specific areas for different
23:56
Speaker 3: things and holding areas where there would be other people,
23:59
Speaker 3: you know, just like me, waiting on whatever they were
24:02
Speaker 3: going to do next. And had I had what I
24:05
Speaker 3: call a handler, a very specific entity who was always
24:08
Speaker 3: with me. We had a connection kind of like you
24:13
Speaker 3: know how animals imprint. It was kind of like that.
24:17
Speaker 3: We had an imprinted connection. So I could always know
24:20
Speaker 3: where he was. I could always find my way to him,
24:22
Speaker 3: or he found his way to me, and he was
24:25
Speaker 3: with me throughout a lifetime of these intrusions and inductions.
24:32
Speaker 3: But there were different people there being taken, you know,
24:34
Speaker 3: for different reasons. I don't know why. You know, nobody
24:37
Speaker 3: sits there and says, here's what we're doing with everybody,
24:39
Speaker 3: and unfortunately it's just terrifying for most people. There were
24:45
Speaker 3: rooms they would take us into where the whole room
24:49
Speaker 3: was just like video screen. And today that doesn't seem
24:53
Speaker 3: too outrage outrageous, but at the time we didn't have anything.
24:56
Speaker 3: You know, our TV was this big and we had
24:58
Speaker 3: like four channels, so you.
25:00
Speaker 1: Know, behind your handler. Does that mean that you were
25:03
Speaker 1: actually walking around in this place?
25:05
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, exactly. I mean not always all over, and
25:09
Speaker 3: certainly it was different every time, you know, but yeah, absolutely,
25:15
Speaker 3: and he would, you know, make sure I got to
25:16
Speaker 3: where they wanted me to be at that point in time.
25:19
Speaker 3: And you know, different things happen at different times. So
25:22
Speaker 3: I try to cover a lot of that because there's
25:24
Speaker 3: so much too, you know, so many different types of
25:28
Speaker 3: things that happened. I try to cover some of that
25:30
Speaker 3: in the book too, But it's just dependent on you know,
25:35
Speaker 3: what age I was, or what they were doing or
25:38
Speaker 3: you know what.
25:40
Speaker 1: You said, you and you would find him? Like, what
25:43
Speaker 1: do you mean you would find him? Okay?
25:45
Speaker 3: A lot of people had handlers to and you know,
25:48
Speaker 3: I did not realize how many. I've spoken to so
25:51
Speaker 3: many other people who also had their own handlers. I
25:55
Speaker 3: don't know what else to calm, so I just call
25:56
Speaker 3: them a handler because, for lack of a better word,
25:58
Speaker 3: that's kind of like what he was. You know, we
26:00
Speaker 3: were being exploited and utilized like labrats, you know. And
26:07
Speaker 3: so I had this person and he was with me
26:09
Speaker 3: throughout my entire lifetime. I had a Stockholm syndrome type
26:13
Speaker 3: relationship with him. Wow, And that is uncomfortable to talk about,
26:18
Speaker 3: just because of of what you know that became. We
26:21
Speaker 3: do cover some of those difficult parts of the book,
26:24
Speaker 3: and there's some parts of it that I don't think
26:26
Speaker 3: talking about would do anyone any good to you know,
26:29
Speaker 3: share some of the stories because they're just too traumatic
26:32
Speaker 3: and it would be traumatics.
26:34
Speaker 1: I've known you for about a half hour now, and
26:38
Speaker 1: and you are a very very strong individual. Don't you
26:41
Speaker 1: ever think otherwise? Everything otherwise that's amazing.
26:45
Speaker 3: The winter.
26:47
Speaker 1: I can talk to you and it's cool, and you know,
26:51
Speaker 1: because you know, you have a name, you know, have
26:53
Speaker 1: a weight in the community. I'm then, but you're you're
26:55
Speaker 1: a very down the earth person and very strong willed
26:59
Speaker 1: and uh, that's wonderful. It's a beautiful thing to see
27:01
Speaker 1: a lot.
27:02
Speaker 3: Tom, It's a sweetheart. Well, I've been doing that conversation
27:05
Speaker 3: so far too. You're very easy to talk to as well.
27:07
Speaker 3: I can see why you have so many fans and
27:09
Speaker 3: followers out there, and.
27:11
Speaker 1: We get there.
27:13
Speaker 3: It's great. You know, what you're doing is so helpful
27:16
Speaker 3: because there aren't a lot of places for people to
27:18
Speaker 3: share these types of things and comfortable areas. Trust me,
27:22
Speaker 3: I've been on some shows that were very uncomfortable. Yeah, so,
27:27
Speaker 3: so I appreciate you and what you're doing.
27:30
Speaker 1: Thank you.
27:30
Speaker 3: So you I'm going to stop for a second and
27:32
Speaker 3: back up and let you ask some questions. I feel
27:34
Speaker 3: like I've just been chatting and show.
27:35
Speaker 1: Oh no, I thought, I know you've been doing great,
27:38
Speaker 1: you know, as a as a you know, in a
27:40
Speaker 1: position I am the interview or what's mixed up? Sometimes
27:45
Speaker 1: the interview were I sometimes I have to let the
27:47
Speaker 1: people just breathe it out and let them say what
27:49
Speaker 1: they're saying and feel the emotion. And what I'm trying
27:52
Speaker 1: to do is ask you questions. It's going to be
27:55
Speaker 1: they're different, you know. You know we were talking about
27:58
Speaker 1: that before the show, the size, how long was it?
28:01
Speaker 1: But there's things that you know, I like to know
28:04
Speaker 1: how it affects people emotionally because we live in this weird,
28:07
Speaker 1: supercharged world and you've gone through it basically already. What's
28:11
Speaker 1: going on in the world, and the news is nothing
28:13
Speaker 1: for you, you know what I mean. So that perspective that
28:16
Speaker 1: you're giving is what people need to So I'm just
28:19
Speaker 1: trying to give you the breath and don't worry about me.
28:21
Speaker 1: I'll find I'll find my my space in there.
28:25
Speaker 3: Well great, well, speaking of the news in the world,
28:27
Speaker 3: you know that movie The Age of Disclosure just was
28:30
Speaker 3: finally released because it's mired. I live in in the Austin,
28:33
Speaker 3: Texas area, and it was released out here at the
28:36
Speaker 3: south By Southwest Music festal sorry, at the one of
28:39
Speaker 3: the festivals last year, and it then was not released
28:44
Speaker 3: to the general public, and it finally has been and
28:47
Speaker 3: and that was really interesting to watch because it while
28:52
Speaker 3: it kind of goes down the same a lot of
28:54
Speaker 3: things we've seen, you know, a lot of Louel Soondo
28:57
Speaker 3: and a lot of government official also talking about what
29:01
Speaker 3: they know. This movie had people from the Air Force talking,
29:06
Speaker 3: and you know, you hear a lot from the Navy,
29:10
Speaker 3: the Navy personnel, but what you don't hear about is
29:12
Speaker 3: the people in the Air Force sharing their stories because
29:15
Speaker 3: they are so high up in the in the actual
29:20
Speaker 3: program of what's going on.
29:25
Speaker 1: In the think I know what you mean.
29:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they talk about the the program's name is
29:36
Speaker 3: the I haven't written down here because I knew I
29:39
Speaker 3: would forget, But it's it's the the the the program
29:45
Speaker 3: is just anyway, it's but they talk about a lot
29:51
Speaker 3: of these programs have been in place for a long time,
29:53
Speaker 3: and those you know, you know things about how the
29:55
Speaker 3: c i A and the Air Force and the government
29:58
Speaker 3: contractors and the external external contractors and all these different
30:02
Speaker 3: groups are involved. So for those of us who've been
30:06
Speaker 3: through this where you know, we'll watch and listen to
30:08
Speaker 3: these things going. Look, you know, the people in the
30:12
Speaker 3: Hollywood Halls of Congress are are confirming, yes we have
30:16
Speaker 3: the crash craft, Yes we have non human biologics. Yes
30:19
Speaker 3: these things do exist, Yes they are a threat to
30:21
Speaker 3: national security. Yes, these things are happening, but still the
30:26
Speaker 3: subject is still has such a huge stigma that if
30:30
Speaker 3: you say I've been taken, people look at you like
30:32
Speaker 3: you're crazy. And it's like our own government officials are
30:35
Speaker 3: admitting that this is going on, but we still can't
30:39
Speaker 3: talk about it, you know.
30:40
Speaker 1: And I think that has a lot to do with
30:42
Speaker 1: the underpinning of government. Trust has been lost, yea, you know,
30:45
Speaker 1: the whole under because if this was said in the
30:48
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties, they would have been chaos in the street.
30:50
Speaker 1: But since our institutions have degraded to this, you know,
30:54
Speaker 1: to the statu right now, So if someone gets out
30:56
Speaker 1: there and they could say whatever about whatever vaccines, ProPlus,
31:01
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, people, it's become politicized, and so
31:05
Speaker 1: something of such magnitude gains no traction. And it's really
31:09
Speaker 1: it's really confounding, actually it is.
31:11
Speaker 3: It is these in these these so many different agencies
31:16
Speaker 3: are involved in so many different pieces and parts of it,
31:19
Speaker 3: that the information just gets lost on the stove types
31:22
Speaker 3: of different groups and different people and legacy groups. Because
31:26
Speaker 3: you're we have all these high level government officials who
31:29
Speaker 3: are just temporarily there. They're there for four years, six years,
31:33
Speaker 3: two years at a time, you know, or longer, and
31:36
Speaker 3: but they come and go and they never even get
31:38
Speaker 3: this information. So people holding on to all of this
31:42
Speaker 3: top secret information are in so many different groups across
31:45
Speaker 3: so many different levels, and that information is not brought together,
31:50
Speaker 3: and then it gets lost and people are like, why
31:54
Speaker 3: isn't the president oben the files or share the information.
31:57
Speaker 3: He doesn't know, and if he did, he would even
32:00
Speaker 3: know where to go to get the right information because
32:02
Speaker 3: it's strewn across so many different government agencies and private
32:06
Speaker 3: contractors and different people that you know, getting that information
32:10
Speaker 3: is hard. So disclosure is never going to be a
32:14
Speaker 3: big bang. It's just going to be a crickle of
32:16
Speaker 3: information that comes out here and there. And people who
32:18
Speaker 3: are brave enough to come forward, and these whistleblowers, they
32:21
Speaker 3: put their lives and their careers on the line to
32:24
Speaker 3: come forward and just share tiny bits and pieces of information,
32:28
Speaker 3: and you know they're risking you know, they have families,
32:32
Speaker 3: they have lives, they kids, you know, they're scared for
32:36
Speaker 3: their lives. I mean people like me who were taken.
32:38
Speaker 3: They used us to threaten people like that in these programs,
32:43
Speaker 3: and I often get asked you how I saw humans
32:46
Speaker 3: working in these facilities with the non human entities. Oh,
32:51
Speaker 3: people out to ask why didn't they help you or
32:53
Speaker 3: why didn't you go to them for help? Well, there's
32:57
Speaker 3: a thing that happens when I was taken, and this
32:59
Speaker 3: is very home and amongst people who are taken called
33:02
Speaker 3: we call it you a faux brain fog. It's like
33:05
Speaker 3: you're thinking and walking through molasses. It's like you are
33:09
Speaker 3: You can't say the things you want to say. You
33:11
Speaker 3: can't run as fast as you want to run, You
33:13
Speaker 3: can't your dexterity isn't there. And it's like this control
33:19
Speaker 3: that just stops you from being able to maybe say
33:22
Speaker 3: what you want to say, if you want to reach
33:24
Speaker 3: out to say someone to help you or what have you.
33:27
Speaker 3: And the other thing is we're threatened not to you know,
33:30
Speaker 3: you don't talk to them, They don't talk to you.
33:33
Speaker 3: And I've been asking you how why would people take
33:38
Speaker 3: a job like that? And if you think about whether
33:41
Speaker 3: it's a private contractor or a job government job. And
33:43
Speaker 3: someone says, hey, you've got this new security clearance. We're
33:45
Speaker 3: going to give this great job. Just sign this NBA
33:47
Speaker 3: and off you go. They don't know what they're getting
33:50
Speaker 3: into until it's too late, and then they've got families,
33:53
Speaker 3: if they've got kids, if they've got friends, if they've
33:55
Speaker 3: got relatives, and those people's lives are being threatened if
33:59
Speaker 3: they do or anything. They're not going to do or
34:01
Speaker 3: say anything. I mean, you know, I may be a kid,
34:04
Speaker 3: but they've also got their own children that they're worried about.
34:07
Speaker 3: And I don't blame them as a parent. You and
34:09
Speaker 3: I both know we'll do anything for our kids to
34:11
Speaker 3: protect them, you know almost you know, I'll jump in
34:14
Speaker 3: front of a speeding car. I don't care. You know,
34:17
Speaker 3: I'm a mom bear. I'm going to protect and I
34:20
Speaker 3: get that. I understand that mentality. So there are a
34:23
Speaker 3: lot of reasons why people get pulled into these things
34:27
Speaker 3: and they can't get out, and they can't speak about it,
34:29
Speaker 3: and they can't share that information, and they're not going
34:32
Speaker 3: to for their own safety and the safety those that
34:36
Speaker 3: they love.
34:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's even me on a more basic level. I
34:40
Speaker 1: was in the US Army. I worked as a telecommunications operator,
34:44
Speaker 1: and there's still things that I can't talk about. I'm
34:47
Speaker 1: not allowed to talk about them that it's like a
34:49
Speaker 1: lifelong thing. And because you know, it's little things. Nothing
34:53
Speaker 1: that for me because it was my job. But imagine
34:56
Speaker 1: if you had something, you know, in some type of
34:59
Speaker 1: secretive you know, black ops, left hand path, government agency,
35:04
Speaker 1: and then you signed his NDA, and you know, if
35:07
Speaker 1: you do talk about it, you get the you know,
35:09
Speaker 1: you get the treatment like that one gentleman got from
35:12
Speaker 1: S four what is his name came out in the eighties.
35:15
Speaker 1: I can't think of his name. Orn's such a yeah.
35:17
Speaker 1: People out there screaming his name, that guy Rogan. Yeah.
35:22
Speaker 1: And so you see that, you see the consequences, You
35:25
Speaker 1: feel the pressure you sign this agreements that they get you,
35:28
Speaker 1: you know, you know mentally because your family to get
35:31
Speaker 1: you psychologically because of you know, what you're seeing, and
35:35
Speaker 1: then they also get you monetarily. So there's no there's
35:39
Speaker 1: there's nothing to make you want to actually say anything.
35:41
Speaker 1: So people coming out and saying it is incredible, especially
35:44
Speaker 1: if they held a certain position, that means it's really
35:47
Speaker 1: really real, if you know.
35:48
Speaker 3: What I mean exactly, And even those of us were taken.
35:51
Speaker 3: When I was little, I was trying to tell people
35:54
Speaker 3: what was happening to me. I wanted it to stop.
35:56
Speaker 3: I was not happy, and I would get from them.
36:01
Speaker 3: You know, you can't talk about this and it One
36:04
Speaker 3: night they came and took me and I was staying
36:08
Speaker 3: at my grandparents' house and they walked me out into
36:10
Speaker 3: the backyard and I remember being barefoot. I remember the grasping,
36:14
Speaker 3: dewy and cold, wet, and we had this like clothesline
36:19
Speaker 3: that separated the backyard and then went down a hill.
36:22
Speaker 3: On the other side, it was a huge farm, like
36:25
Speaker 3: two hundred and some acres of laying, a huge, huge area.
36:28
Speaker 3: And they walked out there and then I and this
36:32
Speaker 3: is where a screen memory comes in. It's like screen
36:36
Speaker 3: memories are like wearing a pair of VR goggles today
36:40
Speaker 3: help them. It would be hard to describe to someone
36:42
Speaker 3: what a screen memories like, but today it feels as real.
36:45
Speaker 3: You know, when you're wearing those VR goggles, you think
36:47
Speaker 3: you're touching things and falling off the side of a
36:50
Speaker 3: edge of something, you know what, It feels very real.
36:52
Speaker 3: That's what a screen memory is like. It's really just
36:55
Speaker 3: you think you're really experiencing this. It looks and feels
36:58
Speaker 3: so real. Crazy and that you.
37:02
Speaker 1: Were talking about the disassociation, So I'm just connected in
37:06
Speaker 1: my brain. So if you imagine you're wearing VR goggles.
37:08
Speaker 1: If you're like your mom, somebody is a little bit
37:10
Speaker 1: older and she she will actually think she's falling, But
37:12
Speaker 1: someone who knows about it would say, it looks like
37:15
Speaker 1: I'm falling, but I'm not. So your disassociation from the illusion,
37:19
Speaker 1: that's a great way.
37:20
Speaker 3: Yes, I love that, right and well, we didn't have
37:24
Speaker 3: that back then. How do you how do you separate?
37:27
Speaker 3: You know, how do you know what's real what's not?
37:29
Speaker 1: And for me.
37:31
Speaker 3: There started to be this ability to say this can't
37:34
Speaker 3: be real and events like that. What they did is
37:39
Speaker 3: they had my whole family, you know, siblings, parents, grandparents
37:44
Speaker 3: come out, and my aunt walk out. And then they
37:47
Speaker 3: were on the other side of that clothesline and they said,
37:50
Speaker 3: if you talk, we will kill your family. And they
37:52
Speaker 3: sprayed something on the backs of their necks and beheaded
37:55
Speaker 3: them in front of me. And from that point forward,
38:00
Speaker 3: that and it was after that that I had the psychotic,
38:03
Speaker 3: the just the break. That's when I that's when I dissociated.
38:06
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't do this. You know, a six
38:09
Speaker 3: year old feeling that way is significant even an.
38:16
Speaker 1: Adult, to your children, and you see it when you
38:20
Speaker 1: think it's.
38:23
Speaker 3: It was. It was a lot. And so I think
38:25
Speaker 3: and for for those of us who've figured out how
38:28
Speaker 3: to dissociate like that, it's just a protective mechanism. You've
38:31
Speaker 3: got to You've got to keep yourself from going crazy.
38:34
Speaker 3: Some people completely do go crazy. Some people can never
38:37
Speaker 3: hold down a steady job. Some people can never you know,
38:40
Speaker 3: continue with school. Some people can never have a normal
38:42
Speaker 3: life post these types of traumas. And some of us
38:47
Speaker 3: were fortunate enough and blessed enough to find a way through.
38:50
Speaker 3: You know, my faith, my faith in God, my journey
38:55
Speaker 3: through that is what got me through. Because I am
39:00
Speaker 3: anything but a perfect person. Yea. I have a lot
39:04
Speaker 3: of faults. I have a lot of ices. I have
39:06
Speaker 3: a lot of things on you all, and I don't
39:09
Speaker 3: want to so when I say that, I don't want
39:10
Speaker 3: someone to think, oh, she's one of those. Now I'm
39:13
Speaker 3: just a person who knows who my creator is and
39:16
Speaker 3: figured out that the Bible is not this little boring book.
39:20
Speaker 3: It has some crazy stuff in there that is not
39:24
Speaker 3: taught to us. If someone had taught me this, I
39:27
Speaker 3: would have been able to stop this stuff a long
39:30
Speaker 3: long time ago. But it wasn't taught to me. And
39:34
Speaker 3: then In this book Age of Disclosure, they talk about
39:36
Speaker 3: how they had these religious fundamentalists coming up to them
39:40
Speaker 3: in the hallway saying, you're messing with the devil. These
39:42
Speaker 3: things are demons, these things are bad, and they were
39:45
Speaker 3: on the right track, but they didn't have the knowledge
39:49
Speaker 3: of what the Bible actually says about it to be
39:51
Speaker 3: able to speak intelligently to these guys to warn them
39:54
Speaker 3: against what they were doing. What they did is they
39:56
Speaker 3: made themselves sound a little crazy. If they had said,
40:00
Speaker 3: look look at Genesis three fifteen, look at Genesis six.
40:03
Speaker 3: This is the whole foundation of the Bible. It talks
40:06
Speaker 3: about how you know his seed will be enmity with
40:09
Speaker 3: the seed of the woman, which means that there's going
40:12
Speaker 3: to be the seed war that there is going to
40:14
Speaker 3: be in It started in the garden of Eden. This
40:17
Speaker 3: is where this conversation was at. And then you go forward,
40:19
Speaker 3: which means that there's going to be a seed of God,
40:24
Speaker 3: which we know is Jesus, and then there's going to
40:26
Speaker 3: be a seed of Satan, which we know are what
40:29
Speaker 3: we would call today hybrid entities or nephyline, which is
40:34
Speaker 3: becoming something people now underto what that word is, I
40:37
Speaker 3: mean ten years ago, I've could have said that people
40:40
Speaker 3: will be like nephyl what you know? Now people know
40:43
Speaker 3: what it is. Yeah, me too. I mean I didn't
40:48
Speaker 3: know nepheline and for those who might not, and that's
40:51
Speaker 3: okay because it's a weird one. A nephiline is simply
40:54
Speaker 3: the cross between a human and then what we call
40:56
Speaker 3: an angelic being and angels. Kind of a misnow, it's
41:00
Speaker 3: a word people use for it, but biblically they're called
41:04
Speaker 3: the beneha Alohem, the sons of God. It's just another
41:07
Speaker 3: created race of beings created before humans, not meant to
41:11
Speaker 3: breathe with humans. But some of them did you go
41:15
Speaker 3: jump forward to Genesis six, it says the sons of God,
41:17
Speaker 3: the bneh Alohim we might call angels, saw the daughters
41:20
Speaker 3: of men were beautiful. About two hundred of them fell,
41:24
Speaker 3: and you can read all about that in the Book
41:26
Speaker 3: of Enoch in more detail, and took of them wives
41:29
Speaker 3: plural of all they chose, and these became the mighty
41:32
Speaker 3: men of the giants, the gibriein the Niphiline, and the
41:37
Speaker 3: whole Bible is built on Genesis three fifteen. At Genesis
41:41
Speaker 3: six and four, ward, and it is not a book
41:44
Speaker 3: about angelic beings. It's a book about our salvation, about
41:48
Speaker 3: Jesus and about this this path and how they were
41:51
Speaker 3: not able to stop him. But if someone had taught
41:53
Speaker 3: me that much earlier, and if these people in Congress
41:56
Speaker 3: had known that, they could have said, look, what you're
41:58
Speaker 3: dealing with is another a race of beings. They're bigger
42:01
Speaker 3: than we are, they're stronger than they are. They have
42:03
Speaker 3: abilities we don't have. We don't have the tools, the knowledge,
42:08
Speaker 3: or the ability to mess with them. But we do
42:12
Speaker 3: have what we need to protect ourselves from them. We
42:15
Speaker 3: can all on our creator and he will protect us
42:18
Speaker 3: from them. But you'll understand that. But see, they don't
42:21
Speaker 3: know that. And so there they don't know how the
42:24
Speaker 3: Bible's put together and what it actually says, because everyone
42:27
Speaker 3: thinks it's this boring book. You go sit and pew
42:29
Speaker 3: and you listen. Because we're taught so different. We're not
42:32
Speaker 3: taught the really cool parts of it, the stuff that's
42:35
Speaker 3: really important. If I had been taught that, I could
42:37
Speaker 3: have stopped this so long ago. You know I've stopped
42:41
Speaker 3: it now. And that's great, and.
42:44
Speaker 1: Question right, wonderful. That's wonderful.
42:51
Speaker 3: Rabbit hole.
42:54
Speaker 1: So we were just you know, you're saying that our
42:56
Speaker 1: power is our connection to God and God being the
43:00
Speaker 1: all powerful being. Therefore we are protected because we are
43:04
Speaker 1: in His image.
43:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're as long as we know to call
43:08
Speaker 3: on him. We can't do anything, but He can do
43:11
Speaker 3: everything for us and through us. And it is by
43:14
Speaker 3: the Man that we're saved, and then we're taking care
43:16
Speaker 3: of it and that we're protected. And but you know,
43:19
Speaker 3: the adversary knows that, and the adversary lies it says,
43:23
Speaker 3: Satan comes as an angel of light. It's going to
43:25
Speaker 3: come to something beautiful and say, hey, I'm your benevolent
43:28
Speaker 3: space brother, and I'm here to you know, save the world.
43:31
Speaker 3: And we're gonna we're going climate control and we're gonna
43:34
Speaker 3: do all these good things and we're not gonna litter
43:36
Speaker 3: and we're just but and those are all things, right,
43:40
Speaker 3: And benevolas is a is a turn coined by Georgia
43:44
Speaker 3: Danski back in the nineteen fifties. But on the same hand,
43:48
Speaker 3: you can't tell me that someone who kidnaps a five
43:52
Speaker 3: year old child, rapes men and women, mutilates cattle and humans,
43:57
Speaker 3: you know, taking people against their will. Those are not
43:59
Speaker 3: the actions of a benevolent entity, but they can say
44:05
Speaker 3: they are and they can come up. You know, every
44:08
Speaker 3: good lie is peppered with truth because you hold on
44:12
Speaker 3: to that truth and the rest of it then kind
44:15
Speaker 3: of makes sense and you're usually led into it. I
44:19
Speaker 3: use the analogy of like a carjacker doesn't walk around
44:21
Speaker 3: with the T shirt says hey, I'm gonna you know,
44:23
Speaker 3: steal your car, steal your purse, or you steal your wallet.
44:27
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go and rob this bank. They don't announce that.
44:30
Speaker 3: You know, the bad guys walk around acting like good
44:33
Speaker 3: guys so they can get away with it.
44:36
Speaker 1: So real, there's ones who there's ones who play. There's
44:40
Speaker 1: ones below who carried a knife and got the tattoo
44:43
Speaker 1: of the tear and all that. But then there's the
44:45
Speaker 1: ones that hide.
44:48
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's the ones that that hide and plain side.
44:51
Speaker 3: It's you know, the the school teachers or the pastors,
44:55
Speaker 3: or the neighbors or the volunteer at the soup kitchen
44:59
Speaker 3: that they're doing good things in the community so they
45:02
Speaker 3: can get away with worse things when you're not looking.
45:04
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying people who do those are bad.
45:08
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, the bad guys are going to try
45:10
Speaker 3: to find a way to appear to look like they're
45:12
Speaker 3: doing good things to get away with it. And there
45:15
Speaker 3: are thousands of hours of TV programming on weekly about
45:20
Speaker 3: just that kind of thing. You know, I'm married a monster,
45:23
Speaker 3: or you know the murder next door, or you know,
45:27
Speaker 3: look at the serial killers. I mean, come on, nobody
45:30
Speaker 3: got into those cars thinking they were getting in the
45:33
Speaker 3: car with a serial killer. They thought it was a
45:35
Speaker 3: nice person offering them a ride, or you know, whatever
45:39
Speaker 3: the case might be.
45:41
Speaker 1: That's interesting that you brought up the global warming and
45:44
Speaker 1: the recycling and taking care of the earth thing. That's
45:46
Speaker 1: why I said whoa. And the reason I say whoa
45:49
Speaker 1: because a lot of people that I've spoken to will
45:51
Speaker 1: say that's the message that I was getting, and you're
45:54
Speaker 1: saying that we're in that's so interesting. It blew my mind.
46:01
Speaker 3: Oh good, well I got that message. They gave me
46:04
Speaker 3: that much. They told me I was important, I was
46:06
Speaker 3: part of something bigger. I was helping, right, But you
46:09
Speaker 3: can't tell, you know, there comes a point where you
46:12
Speaker 3: realize this isn't right, it's not okay. When I'm hearing
46:17
Speaker 3: the strings of children and animals throughout my whole life,
46:21
Speaker 3: some of them my own screams. You know, those things
46:25
Speaker 3: don't leave you, and you can't justify that to me,
46:28
Speaker 3: no matter how hard you tried. But for a while,
46:31
Speaker 3: I was drinking the kool aid, you know, I bought
46:33
Speaker 3: into it, and I because it's easier to justify it
46:37
Speaker 3: that way than to admit what's happening. And that's just
46:41
Speaker 3: part of that separation again, where you say, I can
46:44
Speaker 3: either deal with the reality of the situation or I
46:47
Speaker 3: can go along with this pretend game of their benevolent
46:51
Speaker 3: and it's all good, right, Well, every story has, you know,
46:55
Speaker 3: even the people who say they've had these benevolent interactions,
46:58
Speaker 3: I have yet to see when it doesn't say, well, yeah,
47:01
Speaker 3: that was kind of that was horrible that that happened
47:03
Speaker 3: to me. But if they had good intentions, if they
47:07
Speaker 3: had good intentions, this stuff wouldn't be going on. They'd
47:09
Speaker 3: come down, they'd give us secure to cancer. Like everyone says,
47:12
Speaker 3: it's you know, world peace, all the things that we want,
47:15
Speaker 3: you know, free energy, what have you, those things to
47:17
Speaker 3: be done. But that's not true.
47:19
Speaker 1: It's true exactly if you want us to do these
47:23
Speaker 1: things so bad.
47:24
Speaker 3: You do it, right, You kidnap little kids to create
47:28
Speaker 3: this perfect world you're talking to me about. If you're
47:31
Speaker 3: so powerful, go ahead and do it. But that's not
47:34
Speaker 3: their end game. They're just manipulating people to believing that
47:38
Speaker 3: they're these good guys when they're not. Now I'm not
47:40
Speaker 3: saying there aren't goodness. There aren't good angelic beings and
47:43
Speaker 3: there are bad ones. The problem is we are not
47:46
Speaker 3: equipped to tell the difference that is, and we have
47:49
Speaker 3: to have that guidance or we won't be able to tell.
47:52
Speaker 3: And we can't go looking for them, because that's like
47:54
Speaker 3: going out on you know, into the bedside of town
47:57
Speaker 3: and saying, there's one good person here and I'm going
48:01
Speaker 3: to figure out who that is and not get myself
48:03
Speaker 3: in trouble, you know, and flashing money around while you're
48:07
Speaker 3: doing it and all of this. You know, that's just
48:09
Speaker 3: not going to work. They're just we are not equipped
48:12
Speaker 3: and talking about.
48:13
Speaker 1: Their the end game, well, maybe you can tie into
48:17
Speaker 1: what happens to you? What has excuse me, what has
48:20
Speaker 1: happened to you? I got to use past ten forms.
48:22
Speaker 1: I am an English tutor. You would figure it out
48:24
Speaker 1: by the way I speak.
48:26
Speaker 3: But definite.
48:28
Speaker 1: So you take what has happened to you and your
48:31
Speaker 1: you mentioned in games that means you you believe there's
48:34
Speaker 1: an end game to it. How did you how did
48:37
Speaker 1: you put those together as into what happened to you?
48:40
Speaker 3: You know a lot of that comes from the amazing
48:43
Speaker 3: mentors and friends in my life who we've studied this with,
48:47
Speaker 3: and you know, putting in the ten thousand hours of
48:50
Speaker 3: work to study and figure out who and what they
48:52
Speaker 3: are and what they want, and and combining that with
48:56
Speaker 3: the personal experience. You know, the most dangerous thing is
48:59
Speaker 3: someone who say is there an expert and doesn't actually
49:02
Speaker 3: have any experience in something. You know, there's a lot
49:04
Speaker 3: of those out there as well, and so a lot
49:07
Speaker 3: of different people right and hearing a lot of wrong
49:10
Speaker 3: answers along the way. You know, it goes back to this.
49:15
Speaker 3: It really goes back to the biblical war that's been
49:18
Speaker 3: going on since God created a man in the garden
49:21
Speaker 3: of Eden. You know, we have a lot of proof
49:24
Speaker 3: when you look at this earth that there there was
49:27
Speaker 3: a race here before us who built these amazing structures
49:30
Speaker 3: that we don't understand, Like the pyramids is the easiest
49:33
Speaker 3: one to point out, there are so many of these structures.
49:36
Speaker 3: I mean, the largest pyramid in the world is in Mexico,
49:40
Speaker 3: you know, but people don't know because yeah, tree, right,
49:45
Speaker 3: everything's covered in jungle now. But yeah, that's right, that
49:47
Speaker 3: would be close to you. We should go do a
49:50
Speaker 3: field trip. Rights.
49:51
Speaker 1: Actually, I was actually at a it's called the Akanu.
49:54
Speaker 1: It's about thirty minutes from here, and it's not even
49:56
Speaker 1: any and it's not on any tourist maps and if
49:58
Speaker 1: you fly over you won't even see it. It's one
50:02
Speaker 1: hundred feet in the air. And uh, they actually took
50:05
Speaker 1: stones from the pyramid and made a church nearby, which
50:08
Speaker 1: it was the places.
50:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm here, but yeah, that's a conversation we're gonna
50:17
Speaker 3: have to have later because I want to hear more
50:18
Speaker 3: about what you've learned about that place. But see, and
50:21
Speaker 3: bless people don't know about that, And so that says
50:24
Speaker 3: an awful lot about your understanding of these things. You
50:27
Speaker 3: are the real deal, Tom, and this is amazing.
50:30
Speaker 1: To but we'll figure it out one day.
50:34
Speaker 3: So you understand what's really going on up there, and
50:36
Speaker 3: that's really cool. And and that so we know that
50:41
Speaker 3: there was you know, there was a race here before
50:43
Speaker 3: us and you know, when they when they went off path,
50:47
Speaker 3: you know, and we know from ancient texts, not just
50:51
Speaker 3: the Bible, the Christian Bible, but all kinds of ancient
50:53
Speaker 3: texts all over the world. They all mirror this same
50:56
Speaker 3: story of how they fell, They got in trouble, this
51:01
Speaker 3: the earth was destroyed. We think that there were at
51:03
Speaker 3: least three, possibly more catastrophic floods, including Noah's. Okay, there were,
51:10
Speaker 3: there's evidence of others before that, you know, God's promises.
51:14
Speaker 3: This is the last time He's going to do it
51:15
Speaker 3: that way. But before that, we're just random.
51:19
Speaker 1: If you know, Randal Carlson his his uh his field
51:23
Speaker 1: of studies geology, and he if you the state of Washington,
51:26
Speaker 1: he said that it was an actual you know, let
51:28
Speaker 1: you know, I can't and the place to scene. A
51:30
Speaker 1: big meteor hit and a big wall of water came
51:33
Speaker 1: and just I mean you can even see it. It
51:35
Speaker 1: looks like when he takes a drone up. It looks
51:38
Speaker 1: like you know, how the beach when the water the
51:40
Speaker 1: waves and makes them you could set in the river bed,
51:43
Speaker 1: but these are thirty feet high what.
51:48
Speaker 3: You're talking about? Yeah, and they find like the way
51:50
Speaker 3: seashells and things like that, all kinds of stuff. For
51:54
Speaker 3: those who think, you know, we're the only ones, and
51:57
Speaker 3: that that this is the smartest and my advanced civilizations
52:01
Speaker 3: ever lived on Earth. I got news for you, that's
52:03
Speaker 3: not true. I think the days of Noah, I think
52:07
Speaker 3: they were way more advanced than we are now before
52:09
Speaker 3: the flood. Imagine a flood wipe than everything out. It's
52:12
Speaker 3: like you're going back to zero Stone age. They got nothing.
52:16
Speaker 3: I mean, how you think, how would we survive just
52:18
Speaker 3: without our electronics for a day. Now take all that away,
52:23
Speaker 3: it's gonna go way back. The only source of information
52:26
Speaker 3: you could possibly leave behind would be in Stone because
52:29
Speaker 3: it's not gonna burn. Everything else is gone. I mean,
52:33
Speaker 3: so you think about this and you go back since
52:36
Speaker 3: the gardener bet and then God says, well, look i'm
52:38
Speaker 3: gonna make a man. I'm gonna make it an out
52:40
Speaker 3: of the dirt, and I'm going to give him domain
52:42
Speaker 3: over this earth. And let's see how he does. And
52:46
Speaker 3: you don't think these beings are pissed off? They liked
52:49
Speaker 3: it here. Who wouldn't, It's beautiful. Think about it. This
52:53
Speaker 3: sets up a seed war of Genesis three fifteen. Once
52:57
Speaker 3: you get that the rest of the Bible starts to
52:59
Speaker 3: completely makes sense, get a whole lot more interesting, and
53:02
Speaker 3: then you realize what they're doing. To get the birthright
53:08
Speaker 3: back to this planet, they would have to have human
53:13
Speaker 3: in them. So if you create a hybrid entity that's
53:16
Speaker 3: half human, half them, at what point are you human
53:19
Speaker 3: enough to have birthright to Earth? And how many of
53:22
Speaker 3: them do you need? And then how do you set
53:25
Speaker 3: up this war? Because we know in the end, we
53:27
Speaker 3: know that they're the angels. Spell right. The late doctor
53:30
Speaker 3: Chuck Missler used to say, Satan's out number two to one.
53:33
Speaker 3: He's building an army. He would say that without hesitation,
53:36
Speaker 3: and I believe he's right, and I think that's this
53:39
Speaker 3: happening here. You look at the books of doctor David Jacobs,
53:41
Speaker 3: who is a Harvard per trained psychologist and psychiatrists, and
53:47
Speaker 3: he studied hundreds and hundreds of people who had been
53:50
Speaker 3: taken and learned about all of the tons of these
53:55
Speaker 3: hybrid entities. And he has a book called Walking among
53:57
Speaker 3: Us that's just about that. There's just so much proof
54:01
Speaker 3: out there that this is what's been happening the Bible.
54:05
Speaker 3: You look at Daniel. The Book of Daniel says it'll
54:07
Speaker 3: be like the days of Noah when everything kind of
54:10
Speaker 3: ends and we get to the whole armageddon state. That
54:13
Speaker 3: of Revelation but says it'll be like the days of Noah.
54:16
Speaker 3: It says men will go to and fro across the
54:18
Speaker 3: earth and knowledge will increase. What's happened in the last
54:22
Speaker 3: hundred years, In the last eighty years, knowledge has increased exponentially.
54:27
Speaker 3: People couldn't fly across continents until the last eighty years.
54:31
Speaker 3: You know, all of this is new for us, for
54:34
Speaker 3: this generation, for this culture. So it's such an expansion
54:40
Speaker 3: of knowledge, and all of a sudden, these things that
54:42
Speaker 3: no one would have understood in the Bible two thousand
54:45
Speaker 3: years ago makes sense now. Yeah, that they didn't make sense.
54:49
Speaker 1: Then it's kind of like hijacking the system through some
54:54
Speaker 1: type of genetics to supersede and kind of back handally
54:58
Speaker 1: make this there their place, that it's made for them.
55:02
Speaker 1: So they're just kind of trying to, you know, connect
55:05
Speaker 1: with our seed, our connection, our DNA, and come together
55:09
Speaker 1: so that they then have how would you say there now?
55:14
Speaker 3: Right?
55:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, birth right.
55:16
Speaker 3: Tamothy Albrina wrote a book called Birthright, and he explains
55:19
Speaker 3: it really nicely in that book, as well, and I
55:22
Speaker 3: agree with him on some of the things he's written,
55:24
Speaker 3: and that's one of them. You know, all of us,
55:27
Speaker 3: we don't all agree on everything, and that's great. That's
55:29
Speaker 3: what's great about it is we can share opinions, we agree,
55:33
Speaker 3: and I love hearing other people's opinions because I certainly
55:36
Speaker 3: know that I do not know it all. I only
55:38
Speaker 3: know a little bit, and I'm really interested in what
55:40
Speaker 3: other people have to add and contribute. And I'm learning
55:43
Speaker 3: every day, so you know, but this is this is
55:47
Speaker 3: what I think. This is my opinion, and it's shared
55:49
Speaker 3: by by many of us that this is a war
55:53
Speaker 3: for this for this earth, for this planet. It's a
55:56
Speaker 3: seed war, and it's been going on since the Garden
55:58
Speaker 3: of Eden, and it's going to keep going on until
56:01
Speaker 3: we hit till we hit the end. And I really
56:04
Speaker 3: think it's ramping up. Read the book. The book was
56:07
Speaker 3: a lot more interesting than the Book of Revelation, the
56:09
Speaker 3: Book of Genesis. It all, it's all in there. It's
56:12
Speaker 3: just so interesting when you look at it differently and
56:15
Speaker 3: you start to realize how much the Bible really has
56:19
Speaker 3: to offer. In the Book of Enoch, which you know,
56:22
Speaker 3: I think it was excluded purposely so that people wouldn't
56:25
Speaker 3: get all this good information. When you take that book
56:28
Speaker 3: out it it takes out some of what helps explain
56:33
Speaker 3: it to people to cons put it out. Yeah, and
56:39
Speaker 3: re ordered the books, and they tried to make it
56:40
Speaker 3: so it was in an order that made sense. So
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Speaker 3: they you know, they thought they were doing something helpful,
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Speaker 3: and they tried to take up books they thought were redundant.
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Speaker 3: So I always say, you know, I take the Bible
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Speaker 3: as the erring iner word of God, but I'm going
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Speaker 3: to look at all these other books as well, the
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Speaker 3: extra canonical books, because there's a lot there that deserves
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Speaker 3: the and that you should just you know, pray about
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Speaker 3: it and take what you think is important and go
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Speaker 3: from there as long as it doesn't challenge your your
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Speaker 3: belief in your salvation. I think, you know, it's a
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Speaker 3: good thing to look into some of these things, and
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Speaker 3: I think the books should have been in there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we blew through this in an hour. There's so
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Speaker 1: many questions. We didn't even go into any of the details.
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Speaker 1: I just have to do this take apart two. You know,
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Speaker 1: when you one time, my time permitting. Uh. Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: if we just flew through that we kind of just
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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you, just the basic idea,
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Speaker 1: get to know you, and it was fantastic. An hour
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Speaker 1: I looked at the clock, I was like, a crazy
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Speaker 1: before you go, Karen, of course I would love to
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Speaker 1: have you back on and we'll set that up. Break,
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Speaker 1: We'll give you a break. Tell us one more time
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Speaker 1: where we can find your book and we can reach
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Speaker 1: out to you and talk to Where can we do that, Karen?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just go to my website Karen Flinson author dot
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Speaker 3: com and you can navigate from there into all the
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Speaker 3: social media pages and you can navigate from there to
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Speaker 3: La Marzuli's page where you can get the book. Right now,
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Speaker 3: it's only exclusively at Lamarzuli dot com or you can
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Speaker 3: find us in person, but you can get anywhere through
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Speaker 3: my website, and you can contact me through the website
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Speaker 3: as well. That is the really the only way to
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Speaker 3: get make sure you'll get in contact with me otherwise.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's hard to look through messages
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Speaker 3: on social media, so I don't manage those inboxes. Once
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Speaker 3: in a while I'll go and just check real quick
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Speaker 3: to make sure messages in there. The summer spam, it's
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Speaker 3: really hard to go through and I just don't have
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Speaker 3: the time, so so, but please reach out to me,
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Speaker 3: because you know, I just even if you just want
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Speaker 3: to share your story, I don't share your stories with anyone.
58:53
Speaker 3: I don't share anyone's stories with anyone else. It's just
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Speaker 3: if you want to get it up, you want to
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Speaker 3: share what happened to you. You know, it doesn't mean
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Speaker 3: we're gonna be able to talk, can become pempals or
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Speaker 3: you know, have phone calls necessarily, but I will get
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Speaker 3: back to you, and I will, you know, just be
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Speaker 3: there for you if you just want to share your
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Speaker 3: story and know you're not alone. The important thing YE
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Speaker 3: can direct you to resources that might be able to help.
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Speaker 3: I wish I was a counselor, but I am not
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Speaker 3: a trained counselor, and I'm not going to pretend to be.
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Speaker 3: But I'm just someone who's been through it too, and
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to share my experiences and help people find
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Speaker 3: answers because isn't that really what we all want? We
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Speaker 3: just want some answers to our questions and to know
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Speaker 3: that we're safe, And for me, that's the most important thing.
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Speaker 3: If I can share that with people, then I am happy, so.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, wonderful, wonderful that. I think that's the perfect message,
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Speaker 1: the message of hope, a message of interconnectedness. You get
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Speaker 1: to feel human again, reach out to all the people
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Speaker 1: with had your experiences, and that's just a beautiful thing. Karen.
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Speaker 1: I want to thank you so very much for coming on.
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Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure, always been my pleasure to be
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Speaker 3: with you. Tom. I can't wait for part two. Thank you.
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