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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles Archive Replay 101426 - Mind-to-Mind Combat: Media, Politics, and the Art of Better Arguments · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Thank you so much for joining us, and welcome to the program.
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  Unknown: Well, there you go. Well, the world certainly needs to change. It is changing. It's not always the direction we'd like. We're trying to reverse that a bit. Kind of the things we talk about here on the old Radio Ranch, Roger Sails with you. Your host, moderator,
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  engineer,
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  producer,
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  and call screener,
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  all those things.
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  People's Patriot Network, and I think Paul's with us. I rang him up right before we went on the air to try and get that irritating Skype tone out of there. Paul, did you get online? It looks like you're with us.
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  Unknown: I'm with you, Roger. Yes. Yeah. And while you're doing all those other tasks, can you make me a sandwich as well, please? Oh, my god. I... Well, maybe.
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  Unknown: Hey. What are you... You got that story this morning. You're already thinking about DNA tests and ordering people around.
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  Unknown: Well, know, I've got my waistcoat out, I've been polishing my shoes. Yes. I...
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  Yeah. No. It was good. Does anybody know what we're referring to? Probably not. Over here in...
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  Probably not. No. So a chap... It's quite sad though in a way,
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  mean the guy was...
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  So there's a young man over here, I say young, he's in his early thirties, that's ancient really. That's young.
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  So he's 32, I didn't feel young when I was 32, I thought it was over the hill by then, but you know, anyway, whatever. So he's
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  had a pretty tough sort of life. It turns out he was asked to get a DNA test because his father
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  owns a huge
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  chunk of land in
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  Cornwall
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  and a pretty
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  nice house to go with it too and he'd resisted this most of his life, but apparently he finally got around to it and it turned out that he really is
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  this chap's son and I saw in one of the comments he said he said okay so my life now changes because he's had it pretty tough.
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  He said my life now changes, I'll be doing things to help people he said because I had a pretty tough life he said but I give it all up if I could just spend some time with my dad so that he actually knew that I knew and he knew that I was his son. Right. I thought that's...
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  Unknown: Yeah, can understand that. You know? Interesting article when I got up this morning, it was right, they're still in the active stuff at Zero Hedge and I thought of you and shot it to you without reading it, and I read it right here before we went on. You're disappointed it wasn't me, were you? Yes. I I might
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  Unknown: bull not landed £50,000,000.
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  Well, I don't know. I thought I These these things escaped me as well. It all seems a bit wrong to me, Roger. I thought I could afford a producer finally, you know.
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  Unknown: Interesting because he got not only this huge estate, there's a beautiful picture of it and I want to ask you, where is Cornwall? If you're looking at the country
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  on the map flat and you're down at the bottom and
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  Liverpool and all that are up at the Northwest,
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  where is Cornwall?
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  Unknown: Cornwall is the extreme
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  Southwest.
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  There's a leg that goes off right,
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  called
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  Lands End I think it is, because the longest distance in these tiny little islands is a journey called from Lands End to Jonogroats
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  and Jonogroats is at the top of the tip of Scotland and Lands End is,
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  well it's where the land ends going into the Atlantic really, so it's right down there and Cornwall
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  has got its own
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  distinctive
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  culture very much so, in fact people that do have money and can afford to move there will do that because it's still
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  a very sort of iconoclastic
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  part of England
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  in many ways. I think the Prince Charles owns loads of land down there as well, whatever that might mean.
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  But yeah, it's...
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  I haven't been there often. I'm due to go down there and have a beer with Graham Hart actually because that's where he's from at some point.
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  Just the one, travel that way, have a bin, and come back. No, it might be a bit more than that, but I think... Yeah. And now that I know geographically
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  Unknown: the part of the country it is, and I... I've been studying, watching a lot of videos on Saxons and English history and some of this stuff, it's been real a resurgence for me lately and filled in a lot of holes and gaps in my understanding and knowledge the way things have progressed.
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  And if I remember correctly,
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  under all the sieges when much of the country was taken over by
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  disreputable
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  forces, let's say, that that little part of the country was the part that nobody ever really got, that it always held that English identity
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  and that's where that basically a little closer to you probably
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  is where that king, the first king came from, Charles the Great or whatever the one they called the Great, that was maybe one of the greatest kings of England. It's got some real
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  significance for you guys too.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Alfred is from Wessex which is,
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  you know, when the Saxons came to have these sections, so you've got Sussex which is South Saxon
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  and Wessex which is West Saxon and Essex which is East. There never was a Norsex though because that was under Dane law, the Danes basically, that's where I come from. So I come from the northern part and Dane law
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  ruled there back in those times,
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  but that was all basically Alfred merged all that. He got hold of the Vikings and sorted them out, converted most of them to Christianity, actually that wasn't... That was something that he did as well at the same time. But yeah, Cornwall is distinctive.
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  It's very beautiful actually in many ways,
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  really is. It's got it still has an oldie worldy feel
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  but they're up against it, you know they're sending the migrants down there as well and they're going to chew things up and they're building blocks of flats everywhere. So this process
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  of the
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  amplification
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  of termitism
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  into Western Christian civilization is even taking place there, this is all extremely
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  I won't get emotional about it but it is an emotional that's topic. Really disheartening
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  Unknown: actually.
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  Unknown: Yeah, but everything is, I mean this is just an escalation of the disease,
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  you know, so we are in a state of dis ease.
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  Unknown: That's exactly what's going on. There's a great old cliche, it's always darkest before the dawn. I see more rays of sunlight than I've seen in certainly the early
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  ten, fifteen I first years of mean, I would have never dreamed that we'd see some of the things we've seen today happen in our
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  late lifetimes here
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  that are encouraging and positive and all that stuff. I was thinking a minute ago, you're talking about this guy's age back when
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  in the college
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  years in the 20s, remember they said, remember what the mantra was, don't trust anybody
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  over 30.
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  Unknown: Well, know, ageism is just stupid because as... What we're touching on this before or I I don't know, I have so many conversations, but you you get good and idiotic people across every age range going, you just... And you always have and you always will. So people go, oh, I'm young therefore I'm actually in the ascendancy. Well, not if you're a Burke, you're not. And there are many in every generation, everyone, you know, you get clutches of idiots
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  and you get you get clutches of great people and it's not an ageist thing. It never has been. So it's ridiculous.
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  Unknown: Of the most interesting experiences I had with the book in this phase of the project here for the last eight years or so was right when it was coming out and we did radio on it
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  from the spring
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  up until the book was released in December.
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  I don't know if you know the story of how that all happened. It's kind of interesting.
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  But anyway, so I had built up quite an audience. I had a good platform back then over on RBN in that nighttime slot that Robbie Noel was in occasionally. I had a big listenership.
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  And we went from the spring all the way through the summer and the fall.
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  And hell, I forgot what I was going to say. Hold on, I'll get back on track in a second.
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  But that... And we built an awful lot of audience along
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  in that time, okay? And
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  where the heck was I going with that? It was important and I lost it giving you that detail.
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  It'll come back to me in a second. This is happening to me more and more. I'm And glad I'm the only look, I'm 70, you know It's keeping the thread going, isn't it? It's too much. 70
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  years old, you know, trying to keep your mind on all these things and make sure that it's enough color there so people can get the impact of what you're trying to say and you get lost in the details. The devil is in the details. Well, while I'm trying to remember that, it'll come to me and I'll go, Oh, yeah, here it is, you know.
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  You and I haven't had much communication in the last week. I thought, didn't know whether you were distracted. Probably why you sound so happy. Well, no. No, man. I always like communicating with my buddy Paul and getting I'm only teasing. We gotta have a bit of fun. Yeah. Yeah. But you've been kind of had your periscope down this week, I figured you're off on some project or tangent or something,
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  so has anything been exciting going on with you in the last since we got together last week ago?
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  Unknown: I think well,
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  I've just been really busy, and it wasn't planned out. I've I've just been I've been behind the microphone
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  the last seven days, more than an eight of the period I can remember really. Really? Yeah. It's just just one thing led on to another, and I've just been really busy. So
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  Saturday
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  Saturday, we were on the Dennis Fetchow show. I say we, I was on with Tom Goodrich, the author of Hellstorm, and
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  together, we'd not been on with Dennis actually doing a sort of book promo type interview thing. So Dennis had wanted to do and I had to sort of put him off for a couple of weeks because we were busy with a couple of other things, but that went great. We were in the middle hour of his three hour show
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  and then I carried on listening
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  and he had a guest on, this was really fantastic actually,
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  a woman
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  from...
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  Is it San Jose? Oh, I know the
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  Unknown: know the little bit about the Yeah,
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  go ahead and tell the audience because our audience might not be tuned into it.
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  Unknown: Alright. Okay. It was really excellent actually, a woman who goes under the name of Georgia Peach and why not, you know, why not indeed,
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  and she was great. Now it turned out she was on some terrestrial,
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  you know, your proper radio station out there,
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  and
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  Tom had mentioned to me
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  about three weeks ago, said, hey we're gonna go on this Georgia Pete show and he told me this sort of like Tuesday and we were due to be on that weekend, so we booked it in. And then on the Thursday said, we can't go on, she's been fired and he said, I'm really really disappointed. Now I I had no handle on who she was,
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  the scale of of her show or anything.
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  After I kind of find out, I contacted Tom and said, hey, I'm having delayed gloomness now. Now I know why you were so hacked off, know, that it had fallen through. She was marvelous, absolutely marvelous I thought, and
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  the gist of the story is that she
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  she was... What she was saying in this interview with Dennis,
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  and in fact I think on EFR later today, we're gonna probably replay that show around about 06:00 tonight, so it's worth catching.
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  What she was saying to Dennis was everybody else has got a voice but the white people don't have a voice, so she just provides one, you know, and she knew her stuff. And of course, I don't know how to put this without sounding like some patronizing, so I don't mean this at all, but it it is really really powerfully
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  useful and augments what we do when you get a woman saying it from a woman's perspective with a woman's... A different approach. I just love everybody's different approach, but there aren't... I'm not aware of so many female voices and maybe that's down to me, maybe they do exist, but at the moment, I'm not aware. So I I was listening to her talk, I thought she's very very good. She she brought a tremendous sort of touch to it. Anyway, what had been occurring with her was that I think some resentment had been built
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  up, know, amongst the sort of
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  tribe of people about her banging on about white people, you know, and she understands the score.
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  So from what I understand from the interview, the ADL and the SBLC,
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  probably the SBLC, had been putting pressure on the station, which is owned by a Jewish man, I don't know his name, and he'd kinda resisted that because, for a period anyway, I think, because she was like top ticket on the station, very popular.
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  In the end they found some way of actually applying sufficient pressure to make the whole bubble burst
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  and she was kicked off and I assume you know, I don't want us to read anything into it but I should imagine going forward in terrestrial radio it's going to be a little bit more difficult than it possibly was in the past.
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  I don't know the lay of the land there at all and I've never spoken to her directly but
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  it was an excellent interview,
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  really good, very lively and it touches upon this aspect of if you can't get a platform,
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  if you can't you know, we have to build and defend our own platforms and we have to maintain them because
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  of all people on the face of the earth we have more to say that it's relevant
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  and we need to be saying it and she said it well so she's she's wonderful. I hope she's not gonna hang up the mic for too long a time. I think she's taking a break for now, Roger. I think that's what Dennis was telling, which is understandable.
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  But she... It's a sin if she's not behind a microphone. Really, seriously. She's she's that good. You may secondhand
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  Unknown: for her... See if she'd like to have a slot over here with us. We got a few slots open.
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  Unknown: I should imagine there's a queue knocking at the door, really. I'm not... I don't even know how to knock on it at the moment, so... Because I've not spoken to her directly. But, yeah, no. Look, why not? But I think maybe...
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  I don't know how it must feel at that end if... I mean she's got a pretty large audience, don't know what the figures were but we're talking in thousands, maybe tens of thousands in that neck of the woods, that's substantial. She had a big call in sort of setup, people would call in. Dennis was saying that he
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  was like her top... That's how they got together, he would call into the show
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  and so he became pretty much I think a fan amongst the listeners because he was the American man in The Middle East which of course is already interesting isn't it? Yes. So he he was calling in from from that and providing a different perspective on things which he does, you know, does very well of course as you well know. So I think that that was...
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  We'll see. I'm sure something will will occur with her but she was very very good, great, really
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  just lovely fluid radio setup with her, great. We should
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  Unknown: take the opportunity to
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  plug
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  Dennis' show because we simulcasted,
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  I think it's set up to simulcast on Saturday morning on
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  our signal here.
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  And if people haven't listened to Dennis, he's a real good host. I'm dying to get with him and share what we know with him because I think it'll change a lot of his some even of his perspectives.
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  But until that time happens, he's over there on Saturday mornings, it's a three hour program, takes
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  calls,
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  a lot of American calls I've noticed when I've gotten a chance to listen to his program, and he does a real good job. He's very good on the air, he's very poised. Now he's been doing that show for a long time, hasn't he?
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  Unknown: He has, yeah, he has.
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  Yep, he has. I don't know quite when, maybe 2008, so that's... If it is something like that, so maybe we're up to nine or ten years by now, this quite is a while,
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  but it works really well and he moves it around quickly. I mean, I I do find the ad breaks a little bit irritating, I gotta tell you. There's kind of two... I don't mind one an hour, but I mean, maybe every half hour is not so bad either, but that's just me.
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  They they always tend to come at the wrong time. Someone's just about to kick off on a big one. They go, oh, bad break, and you go, damn it. Really blast the flow to bits. Well, you know, that's So it never along that vein, programming
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  Unknown: and stuff, because I feel very blessed to come to this project
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  with a lifetime of radio experience in one way, shape, form, or another, okay?
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  And because of that, I've got such a great understanding of the industry and what we're doing here. And I think what I've learned over the years is most of these guys, the GCN guys and the RBN guys and these guys and those guys,
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  and always
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  the new industry we can get on the Internet and set up a radio station doesn't cost us 500,000 to 3 or $4,000,000,
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  okay?
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  I won't have to go through a bunch of regulatory agencies and all that stuff. We can just throw this signal up so it proliferates.
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  Now, of those people that do that
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  have never set foot in a broadcast facility in their lives,
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  okay,
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  and they've got very little experience with the traditional industry,
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  which they're layered on top of,
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  and consequently,
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  they a lot of the programming things. You know, to me, I understand you're putting up goods,
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  products, and services that some people buy, fuel use and order and this, that, and the other, but by,
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  to me,
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  the larger share, what you're doing is you've got a facility, you've had to put a lot of money into it, and you've got to get some cash flow, and you've got to sell your listeners' ears.
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  Now, this is what Georgia Peach ran into. She was so successful at compiling an audience,
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  and it was so dependent on that traditionally structured radio station that she had them in a quandary, she had that owner in a quandary,
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  okay, because that's a lot of his meal ticket every month.
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  So, but this is structured totally opposite that. That's why I intentionally didn't want commercials.
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  I'm not selling our listeners' ears. I'm trying to free your ears, not sell them, okay? And on top of that,
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  complexity of the information that we cover
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  and discuss
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  daily pretty much here is such that, Oh, hold that thought for five minutes and I'll be right back.
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  And then you've got to start all over again when you get to the new segment because you've got another bank of spots coming up to go over and repeat so you can carry people over to get ten, fifteen seconds to tell them what you want to tell them in this segment.
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  And then you get another break, and I wanted to totally avoid that. Okay? And so that's why I've consciously kind of structured this, and admittedly,
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  it's a pioneering thing
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  for me. I've never run a talk show host before, you know, talk show before,
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  especially in this environment.
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  And so... But I purposely... I put a lot of thought into it over the time, and I purposely kind of structured it to this discussion platform.
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  And I really like it, and I think the listeners really like it also, the ones that have found us and adhered to what we're talking about. Now, you mentioned females a minute ago and do you know yesterday
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  I got two emails from different female listeners that never had any contact with before and asking some questions and this, that, and the other.
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  So that's... I know you're out there and they don't call in, but I know we're growing, I can feel it, and it's really satisfying
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  for me, it gives me great feedback.
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  Unknown: Good. No. That's good.
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  Yeah. Well, you'd... I don't know what what she would do. Obviously,
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  I'm sure I'm not the only person that was kind of
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  intrigued by and very, well, informed and entertained by the interview. It was great. And so And as said afterwards,
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  I contacted Tom and said, okay, I really got it. It would have been great to be on with her. It really would. It would have been fantastic because she really knows her stuff but but but phrases it in in her way, you know, we all do, which is what makes... It's where the riches lie, seems to me, so she was great. Very good. Well, I'm provocative
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  Unknown: to me her name is Georgia Peach. Does she have any relation to Georgia? It would be one of my questions.
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  I don't know. You don't know if it's... You couldn't tell from her dialect.
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  Sometimes you can really pick up people from my part of the country pretty easily as you can tell from the guys that call.
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  Well, I'd be real interested and her thing was white nationalism,
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  it wasn't against the tribe necessarily,
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  it was positive us, right?
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  Unknown: Yeah.
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  Yeah. Well,
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  you could say the two kind of go hand in hand unfortunately.
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  Well, do.
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  But they do,
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  know, because you know, like we said, you know, the Talmud is an operating system, it seems to me that one of its prime directors is to wipe out the other operating system that it sees on the horizon,
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  which is Christianity,
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  irrespective of what people may think those things definitely actually happening and it has been happening for a long time. So,
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  yeah, you know, if we don't have we don't have a voice, I mean, you you sometimes you're trying to sort of be, I suppose diplomatic in your communication, you never know whether you're being mealy moused. I I think that sometimes sometimes I probably have been, but sometimes I'm not sure
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  of the ground on which I stand and you just have to sort of keep your powder dry and go, well, let's see. I need a little bit more information here to actually, you know, fully understand what's going on with the situation, but
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  we'll see. Hopefully, she'll make an appearance at some point somewhere
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  and, you know, in talking to you and others really about promotion and and pulling things together,
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  I've just got this sort of
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  thing all the time that there's a there's a cake, an audio radio media cake to be baked
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  that's way way bigger than the one that we're currently part of. There's a few more ingredients to come together possibly
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  to expand things out to a much much bigger size and I'm personally very interested in that because
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  I think that there's a weight, that there's something the secondary things that happen
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  with scale that you can't envisage when you're not a scale. There are a lot of problems that come with it too, there are like a lot of moaning people, you get loads of those, but that's fine.
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  Unknown: That's fine. That's that's part of it. But moaning's good every now and then. Yeah.
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  Unknown: It is. That's alright. So
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  anyway, yeah, that was... So when was that? That was just Saturday. What that happened? Oh, then Monday night, Graham Hart's on and Uh-huh. Who are they gonna have on? Oh, they were gonna have an Irish politician on whose name regrettably I've forgotten, but he's standing as an independent and I do know him sort of because I've listened to a lot of things he said. Anyway, he couldn't show up. So in the middle of their show, they they I'd pinged them something, I said I'm looking forward to hearing this and they said he's not turning up, you come in? So I said oh yeah, okay. So I sat in on the show for the last hour with Dennis Wise. Dennis Wise is a guy that hails from the same neck of the woods as I do up in Northern England and he's the guy that that made the video
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  Adolf Hitler the greatest story never told,
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  which is this six hour epic, so Dennis is the maker of that.
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  And we had a good chat particularly about
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  the mooted Holocaust memorial outside of Westminster,
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  the Houses Of Parliament down here,
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  which is...
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  Don't know if... Were we talking about that last Wednesday? I can't remember what I was talking about, I'm not possibly... You have your own little shrine over there outside of the parliament, do you?
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  No, we don't, we don't yet.
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  They're very keen to put one up at a cost of £70,000,000.
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  I think it's a big mistake all around, they need to really think this thing through and not not I've got any power to stop it, I just think it's like a mistake. Well, if you'll go get your blood test, you may can pull a little weight around there. Just know you can pull.
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  Hey. Let me Well, you never know. But I mean,
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  the thing was that the we've got
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  one existing Prime Minister of course in the role, this creature called Theresa May,
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  that the other four recent incumbents are still alive. They are John Major, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and David Cameron. Anyway they got all five of them to produce this video and stuck it up on YouTube,
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  it's about two and a half minutes long.
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  Comments are disabled
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  which is an interesting sign and they were just banging on about how we must never ever forget this.
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  Were talking about that you know along the lines of, it's Tuesday, I don't think I remembered it on Tuesday, better go and rest myself
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  for not remembering this thing that you keep telling me I've got to remember. The whole thing is a madness in many ways
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  but to my mind also quite funny in the sense that you know we have a line over here, would you buy a used car from this man?
• 25:51
  It's a way of
• 25:53
  disparaging or pointing out that the person who you know has got no integrity really hasn't got any and you know so the question is would you buy a used car off of any of these ex Prime Ministers? No, you wouldn't because
• 26:04
  integrity is not the first word that springs to mind. John Major
• 26:08
  negotiated the Maastricht Treaty which is treason,
• 26:11
  Tony Blair is a war criminal and also did other things which are treasonous,
• 26:15
  Gordon Brown went along with it, that's treason, David Cameron also and Theresa May. All of them are basically committing treason
• 26:22
  against the actual laws of this land and they're able to do it by you know the kerfuffle of the media, this is basically what it is. If
• 26:31
  everybody's spending all day long talking about all this twaddle, they never get back to actually talking about the actual core engineering issue which is, you know, that's it. Well when Israel comes up all we hear is terrorism and we're protecting ourselves, we never hear about how they stole the land.
• 26:46
  Unknown: I particularly, one of those scoundrels that you listed off there, I particularly have a
• 26:51
  strong affinity to and that's Mr. Brown.
• 26:56
  Right.
• 26:58
  Mr. Brown,
• 27:00
  in his tenure there, there was a period called Brown's Bottom,
• 27:05
  which you may or may not be familiar with. Do you know what Brown's Bottom is?
• 27:11
  No. Don't take that literally. Okay?
• 27:14
  Unknown: Oh, no. No. Don't worry. I'm not gonna get vulgar or anything. I'm sorry to...
• 27:20
  Unknown: Are you alluding to the fact that one of his first marvelous acts was to flog all the gold off at a reduced price? Yeah, he and that was when I was at heavy cash flow and I was buying a lot of my gold, so I liked it because
• 27:34
  he got the price down, if I remember right, the reason they call it Browns Bottom, I think he got the price to $251.50
• 27:41
  right around in that
• 27:43
  range. But
• 27:46
  what amazed me, and I heard this on a guy, an interviewer interviewing
• 27:50
  a financial guy, know, one of these people that's plugged into that sort of thing a while back. And do you know why they call it Brown's bottom?
• 27:58
  It's not because the price was the lowest.
• 28:02
  Unknown: Tell me. I'm always.
• 28:04
  Unknown: Because he sold half of England's gold to the
• 28:07
  lowest
• 28:08
  bidder.
• 28:09
  I wonder who that might have been.
• 28:12
  Unknown: I don't know, I hope you're not casting aspersions and alluding to things Have you ever that been to an auction?
• 28:18
  You been to You're acting an a suspicious manner, yeah, I mean, you know, this is worrying. I don't know whether I can even enter into a discussion because I'm I'm still not clear how much freedom of speech we've got over here, really. No one keeps telling me.
• 28:29
  So Well Yeah. You know, what happened there? He gets an order. Does it... You see, everybody goes, no. The prime minister's in charge. Well, obviously
• 28:36
  not.
• 28:37
  And I think they picked, you know, each dope to do some dopey thing. So Gordon's dopey thing was to, oh, we... Well, you're in now, so will you just go and sell all the gold? Oh, yeah. Alright. Then I'll do whatever you say. That's basically how it works. Again, with that incident, they... Nobody ever asked the right question.
• 28:54
  Unknown: The right question is, who bought it? Chris, how you doing, man? Thanks for joining us.
• 29:01
  Unknown: Well, very well. I'm glad to hear Paul this morning. I did have a little comment about your Browns bottom one.
• 29:07
  Unknown: Yeah. Where Gordon Brown sold all the gold by the way.
• 29:11
  Unknown: Good morning to you. Where he sold all the gold that was stolen from Americans under the ruse to confuse by FDR that it was for the liberty bonds and for America's strength and to help our forces when he was really supporting
• 29:24
  Hitler's army,
• 29:26
  when he stole that under the Emergency Banking Act of 1933.
• 29:30
  But they had Browns bottom too. That's when Timothy Geithner is the secretary of treasury and the governor of the IMF,
• 29:39
  stole WAMU's assets and sold it under a pretextual
• 29:43
  unconscionable
• 29:44
  sale to JPMorgan Chase, the one that only qualified bidder supposedly
• 29:49
  according to, Obama and Geithner,
• 29:52
  him the TurboTax,
• 29:53
  the snake Geithner,
• 29:55
  known as,
• 29:57
  because of his scurrilous activity and his, TurboTax,
• 30:01
  so called filings
• 30:02
  when he really was a nontax payer because he was a dual agent, of course, very operative in that. But that whole thing was basically of act of piracy
• 30:14
  by the treasury and the IMF stealing Wamu's assets to redistribute it to
• 30:20
  JPMorgan Chase, Jamie Diamond, and Associates or Demon as a more accurately known. But with that, I'll leave it back to you and Paul
• 30:27
  listening
• 30:28
  Unknown: in. I would add to that for pennies on the dollar.
• 30:32
  And, you know Absolutely. As brother as brother Carpenter says to his synagogue buddies
• 30:39
  Unknown: because that's that's where the In fact, it was
• 30:44
  Go ahead. It was $27,500,000,000
• 30:46
  worth of assets for $1,888,000,000,
• 30:50
  and they also received a special tax
• 30:53
  incentive trade off where it basically nullified it, and they got WAMU's assets for absolutely
• 31:00
  zero
• 31:01
  Unknown: in toe to toe. That guy, the head of WAMU's back here in the last week or two. I saw a headline. He's going, we didn't do anything wrong.
• 31:10
  I'm sure.
• 31:11
  So,
• 31:12
  thanks for checking in, Chris. You wanna fill us in there? I wanna ask you a question. You said yesterday, you were moving and appealing.
• 31:20
  You move in places like?
• 31:24
  Unknown: Well, the
• 31:26
  the same thing, the Social Security Trust is actually a trust in phone time or tone team, you know, if the case may be. And it's a basically a last man standing trust except for they looted the so called trust. It was never a trust. It's just a FICA,
• 31:40
  another form of a taxation of the people.
• 31:43
  And his brother did the same thing to him. He created an unconscionable trust where the beneficiary
• 31:48
  couldn't enjoy any of the benefits till after he died supposedly,
• 31:52
  which is absurd and preposterous.
• 31:54
  Because if the beneficiary can't collect anything and it all goes to the guy that devised this trust with his attorney
• 32:01
  twister of the facts to their own predatory advantage
• 32:04
  who notarized her own agreement supposedly to trust herself.
• 32:09
  That's a notarial fraud in fact, and an officer of court fraud in fact. So
• 32:15
  he supposedly be a... We got a thirty day letter here about a week ago, and so we've got thirty days to get out. So I'm not waiting until the last minute to do that. I'm removing my things down to my Arizona abode that's not within the state at the dome home supposedly.
• 32:31
  Unknown: Uh-huh. But you're gonna still hang around Clark County. Right?
• 32:35
  Unknown: Well, I'm stuck here for probably another three to six months while I appeal this thing and then I'm gonna try to get out of here before they kill me. I get to be pretty close. Two attempts so so far. I hope they won't be successful the third time. Well, I wanna I wanna urge you here and I'll do it publicly on the air before you get out of town to
• 32:55
  Unknown: strike up a relationship and press some flesh with my old buddy Brent Bachman out there
• 33:01
  that is
• 33:02
  involved. He's lived in Vegas for a few years. Super good guy,
• 33:06
  a guy from our old CCG meetings and popped up here years down the line. And I'd like to have you two meet because I think you'd like each other and we can't network enough in our small groups.
• 33:19
  So I'd encourage you to do that. He said he sent you an email with his phone number and stuff. So if you'll follow-up on that when you get a chance, I think you'll be glad you did.
• 33:28
  Unknown: Let's make sure that phone number, because I'm not sure I saw it, but I'd be interested to know what he sent it as so I could find him in there because I got a lot of I've been on my computer much in a few days. I'm sure. I'm sure. I know everybody wants to. I got one of those females that contacted me. I believe it's something about you, and I forwarded
• 33:46
  Unknown: the reply I sent to her and copied you on it last night. So,
• 33:50
  you know, we're we're gaining a little bit of steam and we got some some very dedicated listeners. The problem with our listeners, the the problem that you guys have is once you get turned on to this stuff,
• 34:02
  there's nowhere else you can get it, to my knowledge.
• 34:06
  I mean, you can get bits and pieces and other people slant on it, but this
• 34:12
  is the wellhead of this, okay?
• 34:14
  And I'm real proud of that, and I'm real proud of you guys that have been touched by the message, and you've taken it in, and it's changed your thinking, and it's changed your lives, and it's difficult to go back, you know? It's the old analogy that I've always used is you take pair a of underwear
• 34:31
  and you sit there and put your hands on each side of that elastic band and pull it out as far as you can and let it go, and it never stretches back and never pops back to the same
• 34:42
  diameter that it was and that's kind Can you just hold on,
• 34:46
  Unknown: Roger, because I'm just trying to do that right now.
• 34:49
  Unknown: Want you to that.
• 34:50
  Unknown: Should have known Don't go so quick. What was the next step and how far do I pull it apart? As far as your arms can pull that rascal
• 34:57
  Unknown: and when you let your hands off, it'll
• 35:00
  never come back, okay? And that's what this information does to people's minds. It's interesting and I'd mentioned on the air a while back about a real fortuitous,
• 35:09
  one of those nice little things that happens in life that just pleases you, you know? And that's that I got an email about a month and a half or so ago from one of my old college buddies that I haven't had any contact with in forty years, okay?
• 35:24
  And he was looking me up for some questions about Florida and ended up I sent him all this stuff and he wrote me back, said, Well, I went to your website and I looked at it. He's an attorney, by the way, Chris,
• 35:35
  and his specialty is appellate level stuff.
• 35:38
  So
• 35:39
  they're in Louisiana,
• 35:41
  and
• 35:42
  I didn't hear from him for a while, and I got a letter, an email from him yesterday, he's going, Well, quite frankly, I got your book, and he said, I started reading it and I had to go put it down because it just provoked me so much, you know, and
• 35:56
  he gave me a little bit of information, this and that, and said that what a joy that is to have somebody
• 36:02
  that was very dear to you earlier in life that you haven't had any contact with many years to come back into your life, you know, and so he's getting turned on to this and and
• 36:12
  I had a conversation yesterday at lunch with the secretary with the state department guy, Cory, and and
• 36:19
  the other guy, the ex federal,
• 36:22
  he did a lot of pilot stuff and law enforcement stuff. He was a trainer down at the big base in Georgia, Glencoe for a year, and he's a real nice guy, okay, and so I'm spoon feeding him.
• 36:33
  But I sent both of them a copy of the affidavit last night. They've got a little bit of the one I originally filed,
• 36:41
  and they've got enough background now to
• 36:44
  understand it a little bit. So I'm kind of taking a different tack instead of dumping the whole load on people.
• 36:52
  I'm just dribbling it to them and teasing them.
• 36:57
  And
• 36:59
  so we'll see how that works, especially with these two types of people, FedGov employees,
• 37:05
  and even though they think like us and generally, but don't know the specifics,
• 37:09
  you start going in and telling a career guy that's been with the federal government that this whole thing's a scam. He knows it intrinsically,
• 37:17
  see? But he's still real skeptical and he's still getting his bread buttered there because that's where his retirement check comes from. So,
• 37:25
  anyways, very interesting. I feel like we're making progress the way we should
• 37:29
  and Paul, one of the things that I've considered and taken to heart really is that
• 37:35
  our message
• 37:36
  is like the old saying that when the when the student is ready, the teacher will appear and
• 37:41
  I don't know that the masses are quite ready for this yet. I think they're going to be as things unravel more and become
• 37:49
  more aware and known to people on a lot of these things that are coming out and they start asking more questions. Our time will come because we've got the right message.
• 37:59
  Unknown: Yeah, I think it will. I think,
• 38:03
  you know, things change when a mass of people are involved with things.
• 38:07
  It requires
• 38:10
  simple brief communication
• 38:12
  and it can often be enough because there's a momentum in...
• 38:16
  It's like that critical mass with monkeys, you know. Once
• 38:19
  x number of monkeys know how to crack the nut on the rock, they all know and no one sits around going, hey, how do we work that out? No one sits about analyzing it, we're not bothered about that. We just want to get undoing it, it's that whole thing, you know, people don't want to see the delivery, they want to see the baby and
• 38:33
  we're trying to get to that point, think, you know. Well, you know, we do get in the science world,
• 38:39
  Unknown: in the science world, the known science world here, we've had the thing periodically
• 38:43
  through the Earth's history called a polar shift. We're evidently undergoing one now in some degree.
• 38:50
  And in the studies that they've done on that polar shift, have you ever really looked into that, Paul?
• 38:56
  It's quite interesting.
• 38:58
  What happens is you've got the polarity, north and south, like a battery,
• 39:02
  and as that polarity shifts,
• 39:05
  initially it just shifts a little bit, like one little
• 39:10
  molecule, electron, or whatever will change polarity,
• 39:13
  and then pretty soon two or three, and then a a few more, and it just continues to grow until all of a sudden it gets to this critical mass point and the whole thing flips.
• 39:26
  It's like a diver diving off a high board and going into a front
• 39:30
  spin,
• 39:31
  you know, they start as they get off the board and their arms go forward to start that inertia, that centrifugal
• 39:38
  force,
• 39:39
  and once the weight of their body gets past the point of that circle, you just go right through the flip on its own merit, see? And I take those analogies
• 39:49
  and I liken them to this. And I know that there's more people growing, more people asking questions, the audience is getting bigger of people potentially that would be receptive and touched by this. And that's why I say what we do is try and be consistent,
• 40:04
  get on here and learn and get our game down as well as we can, help instruct people out there how to
• 40:11
  prospect,
• 40:12
  maybe that, you know, how to lay this in front of people properly
• 40:15
  and, you know, it's because it's easier to pull a rope than it is to push a rope. I don't know if you've ever tried it, it's easier to pull a rope than it is to push one. Okay? And so what you need to do is lay bait out there, get your game down on this dialectic
• 40:30
  thing, how it's set up, be able to ask very simple questions like, Are you a citizen of The United States or are you a citizen of The United States Of America? That's a pretty simple question. I believe any of our listeners can take that to heart and memorize it, okay?
• 40:45
  And that presents the dialectic and you've put it right in front of people in their hands
• 40:51
  and they don't understand it,
• 40:53
  and you work from there.
• 40:56
  But you always create curiosity,
• 40:58
  you don't try and give them a drink of water out of the fire hydrant.
• 41:05
  Here's the things I've learned, you know, and this
• 41:08
  is how that if
• 41:10
  not everybody's good, you got to learn to do this stuff, and
• 41:13
  the beautiful part is for our students out there, Samuel and some of the others, especially the newer people,
• 41:19
  is this is how you learn, is teaching other people.
• 41:26
  If you ever want to learn something,
• 41:28
  teach it.
• 41:32
  And I promise you, it works.
• 41:37
  Unknown: You teach that which you best need to learn yourself,
• 41:39
  but...
• 41:41
  So I don't know whether that undermines what you chose. No, no, it doesn't, it absolutely reinforces
• 41:46
  Unknown: it because it's true. And here's
• 41:48
  what's at work behind that:
• 41:50
  you're trying... You don't have your arms around something but you're trying to tell somebody about it and you don't want to look like a total idiot, so you go back and study it and get it in your own mind where you can get it across easier and in doing so, you learn.
• 42:06
  Unknown: Yep. That's part of it, absolutely part of it.
• 42:11
  Yeah.
• 42:11
  Unknown: Did you have anything on your mind you wanted to touch on today, Paul? I don't get off on all this, I enjoy just the casual conversation though, I think that's the strength of our platform.
• 42:21
  Yeah, there's a few things Roger,
• 42:24
  Unknown: but I just wanted to mention
• 42:27
  as well, what are they Tuesday?
• 42:28
  Sorry, so Monday Monday was on with Graham and Dennis, just going back to this thing, I'm sorry. That's okay. Linen and... No, it's got...
• 42:36
  Been a fun few days. I'd also done a recording with
• 42:40
  Andrew Carrington Hitchcock on the Monday, I've got to tell you this right, no one's actually written to him yet, I just thought I'd think about this.
• 42:48
  There's a foul word involved in this process, okay? So
• 42:53
  as part of the show he'd got hold of a video
• 42:57
  shot with an iPhone,
• 42:58
  you know vertical frame, not sort of your horizontal format, someone just holding it vertically
• 43:04
  and
• 43:05
  they bumped into John Howard who is the ex Prime Minister of Australia on the street. This is quite recent, it's been about a week or so and the lad that bumped into him comes from where I come from, he's a northerner, I could tell he's a young he's obviously a young guy,
• 43:21
  because John Howard says, where are you from? He says, are you from North Of England? He says, yeah. He says, Leeds? He said, yeah, near there mate, which is where I'm from. Right? Okay. So and this lad starts asking, they're on the street corner somewhere Melbourne, Adelaide, Sydney, I don't know where it is but some place and
• 43:36
  this woman's
• 43:37
  stood with John Howard, she says he's the best Prime Minister we've ever had, he's going are you? He's all sort of cheeky,
• 43:44
  I couldn't care less really.
• 43:46
  He said are you a freemason? It's just right in his face,
• 43:49
  it's fabulous right, and
• 43:52
  he doesn't answer certain things but he's quite chatty to start off with, it starts off quite nice, a good turn to it, And then he says,
• 43:58
  what do you think of Tony Blair? He says, he's a good guy. He says, no.
• 44:03
  This English like goes, no. He's a war criminal. It's like that. Are you a freemace?
• 44:08
  Are you a Zionist? Literally, it's like in his face. The reason I'm pointing this out is that there's a wonderful sort of the removal of the Emperor's clothing taking place very slowly, inexorably with this chirpy Brit, right, just not being nasty,
• 44:21
  just sort of like really just pointing
• 44:24
  the direction. Then he says to him, he says what about George Bush?
• 44:28
  He says George Bush is a great man, at which point this lad says and Andy I think broadcast this, I won't say the word, he says no he's not, he's a the c word right?
• 44:39
  I've got to tell you, we don't normally do that, in fact we never do it. In fact as far as I'm aware we've never... Crook. Not
• 44:45
  quite, it's a four letter word begins with c ends with t. Alright,
• 44:49
  you get it? So
• 44:50
  the thing was I couldn't... I hadn't heard the whole clip so I had to play with this and I just got hysterical about it because it's perfectly timed and it's absolutely true and you just go, okay,
• 45:01
  that one you let go through it because that's right. Seriously,
• 45:04
  this is the way. That was the impact on that, it wasn't done nastily,
• 45:08
  it was just like it just popped it straight at him and no one knew what to say.
• 45:12
  It was absolute fantastic exchange and what it made me see
• 45:16
  or what I was you know, reintroduced
• 45:19
  to is that a jaunty,
• 45:22
  chippy attitude,
• 45:23
  right, goes a long long way.
• 45:26
  It demystifies the idea that these guys are all powerful. They're not.
• 45:31
  If you got them in a pub, if I got any of them in a pub and start having a chat, I'd make mincemeat of them. That's why they never turn up in the pub. This guy made a big mistake taking on a cheeky little Brit lad, right, from my neck of the woods, who just had a go at him and knew his stuff,
• 45:44
  and it was great and he's done in a really nice way
• 45:47
  and you think well if we could get him on TV like that, know, you'd be able to literally take their trousers down with with words all the time. I think it's
• 45:56
  Unknown: telltale as to where we are that that incident would happen because
• 46:01
  five, ten years ago nobody would ever walked up and started asking people those questions,
• 46:06
  very few anyway. Absolutely
• 46:09
  Unknown: right, people have gotten... We have no they haven't got any respect at all, it's gone totally, right? So now it's all been held together by the lies and bailing wire of the media, which is why they have to overwhelm us with one dramatic pile of lies after another every three or four hours. Or how about that they've got to shut down pages that are starting to put the truth out like some of these absolutely
• 46:33
  Unknown: extreme
• 46:34
  measures that we're seeing taking place by Facebook and Google and Instagram and some of these platforms.
• 46:40
  Listen, they don't do that sort of stuff unless they are in a desperate situation
• 46:45
  because all it does is continue to expose them and this is their demise,
• 46:50
  okay? Because it's the snake eating its tail. They've pressed reality.
• 46:54
  They've got a fraud. The fraud is becoming unraveled to the public whose approval they have to have,
• 47:00
  and it's biting them in the...
• 47:04
  Backside. In backside.
• 47:06
  In Brown... Not Brown's backside,
• 47:08
  their backside.
• 47:09
  Unknown: Well, we don't really mind. I mean, but it's true.
• 47:13
  The
• 47:14
  idea of remaining buoyant,
• 47:16
  seriously I think it's very important for people to in their language and their attitude and their energy,
• 47:21
  if they can find it, seek it within themselves to remain relatively buoyant and chirpy about what's going on because it's it's
• 47:29
  a very very powerful way of approaching these people who think you're supposed to revere them and their genius. They're not geniuses, they're not even very bright, most of them are puppets that have been placed there, they've certainly very good at actually doing the arrogance thing and I know best thing, they're very good at that and of course they've had it all their own way up until recently and now that bubble is seriously burst and it ain't gonna be put back together again. Humpty Dumpty is off the wall, he's in a lot of bits,
• 47:54
  you know, and Humpty Dumpty is a good analogy really because Humpty Dumpty, there's a bit in it where he says
• 48:00
  Unknown: words mean whatever I say they mean. Would you like me to quote that to you?
• 48:05
  Yeah, when I use a word Humpty
• 48:08
  Dumpty said in a rather scornful
• 48:10
  tone,
• 48:12
  notice the hubris,
• 48:13
  it means exactly what I say it means, no more,
• 48:17
  no less.
• 48:19
  The question is, said Alice,
• 48:22
  how can you make a word mean so many different things?
• 48:26
  The question is,
• 48:28
  said Humpty Dumpty,
• 48:30
  who is to be master,
• 48:33
  that's all.
• 48:35
  Unknown: You've
• 48:36
  missed your calling as an Alice in Wonderland impersonated there, Richard. This
• 48:41
  was very good, but look it's relevant,
• 48:43
  highly relevant observation isn't it and it's coming about. So
• 48:48
  this this little interaction was fantastic. We were we were basically
• 48:52
  within the show looking at the whole range of hate speech and what it is and it's an ongoing
• 48:57
  conversation
• 48:58
  that needs to carry ongoing because the... You just unearth one good thing after another. So that was so that was Monday,
• 49:04
  that got broadcast Tuesday. Then Tuesday night,
• 49:07
  I got another surprise,
• 49:09
  so that's last night, my time. Okay.
• 49:11
  There is a podcast
• 49:13
  that's been going for quite a few years. I have heard about it, but I I wasn't familiar with anybody on it.
• 49:20
  I wouldn't say I'm necessarily on exactly the same wavelength as the people there but it's called Nordic Frontier and
• 49:27
  it's it comes out of Scandinavia.
• 49:29
  So it's headed up by a guy called Andreas, great guy,
• 49:32
  and I think he's a Swede
• 49:35
  and very measured and very Swedish in his approach. They're speaking... I was teasing him in the show. I said, you speak English better than I do, which is not necessarily true, but you get the drift. Right? And a Finnish guy and a couple of others. Anyway, the the show runs for about three hours and I was on again with Tom Goodrich. This is just the things that we were talking about Hellstorm the audiobooks, a shameless self promotion department again, but I had a fantastic time with these guys. It was
• 50:00
  excellent and
• 50:01
  interestingly
• 50:02
  they had another Briton who I wasn't familiar with at all, never spoken to this guy,
• 50:07
  who goes, he's called Christian Bale I think, he's just done a video, so you know you were talking about that video thing Europa the final battle a couple of months back. Sure. He's done one
• 50:17
  called the Apotheosis
• 50:19
  of Evil, apotheosis meaning the peak, you know, the peak of evil and
• 50:23
  it's ten hours long, I thought I'd let you know, ten hours this video and sounded really interesting. I've watched the first sort of fifteen minutes and it's basically about the fight that Western Christian European man is in, whether he likes it or not, whether he knows it or not, it's definitely the case. So I'm looking forward to watching that, but I had a I had a really good time with these guys yesterday
• 50:45
  and I said to him, I said, do you guys swear? I I won't mind rebroadcasting
• 50:49
  this, do you guys swear much? And Andreas said yeah, yeah we do. He started laughing, I said really? He said well he said not the beginning of the show, said but if we're getting into a meaty thing he said unfortunately
• 51:00
  the words start to come out. I said drat, that's not for a family audience. I said I'd be shocked,
• 51:05
  know, it'd be awful. So
• 51:07
  I'm not gonna be able to persuade him otherwise and I wouldn't even try but what a good
• 51:12
  group of guys.
• 51:13
  Me and Tom had a fantastic time there, really very good, very welcoming,
• 51:18
  really good conversation
• 51:20
  looking at you know the challenges, what's taking place, what we have to do
• 51:24
  and the thing I'm reminded of Roger
• 51:27
  or the thing that's building more and more with me
• 51:30
  is that in spite of what appears to be this
• 51:35
  you know amplification,
• 51:36
  this acceleration of the decay which is definitely going on,
• 51:40
  what's coming out of it just as you were touching upon a few minutes ago,
• 51:43
  is that people,
• 51:45
  our people,
• 51:47
  my people, it's not against anybody else, but I see that my people spread around the world are beginning to come together literally
• 51:53
  in these conversations. We're talking to South Africans and Australians,
• 51:57
  Scandinavians
• 51:58
  and Germans and Americans and Brits and Irishman and Scotsman,
• 52:02
  and it's all coming together. I'm going, there's never been a period in history where we've done this. Well, that's
• 52:07
  Unknown: yellow vest that's one of the yellow vest movement scare them to absolute death, okay, is because it's
• 52:13
  not one group, it's the whole political spectrum coming at them.
• 52:18
  Unknown: Well,
• 52:19
  that's gonna happen is this wave
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  is gonna be... It's unstoppable is this wave, it's coming.
• 52:26
  It's
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  because
• 52:28
  they've taken on everybody all at once. See in the past it's been been able to historically I suppose with technology,
• 52:34
  movement, transportation systems, whatever, go from one region to another for a few hundred years, move on, no more
• 52:41
  and
• 52:42
  trying to chew the whole thing up at once, big mistake,
• 52:45
  Unknown: big mistake. It's really putting
• 52:47
  a hitch in their giddy up now. What
• 52:50
  day is this election election over over there there next next week? Week?
• 52:54
  Unknown: Ah, it's tomorrow.
• 52:55
  It's tomorrow. It's tomorrow.
• 52:58
  Yes. Ask me if I'll be voting, Roger.
• 53:01
  Unknown: Well, I don't think you will. Would that be what they call a rhetorical question?
• 53:08
  Unknown: I won't be voting,
• 53:10
  I won't be voting for all sorts of extremely clear reasons, but there's... So Nigel Farage and his Brexit party are
• 53:16
  pounding the polls and moving ahead and all that kind of stuff and I've had a lot of... I witnessed a lot of interactions on email list with people saying, you must vote for this. This is our way to get back to Brexit and all this kind of stuff.
• 53:28
  I've...
• 53:29
  I'm... I won't have anything to do with that man for all sorts of reasons, not because he's on a personal level loathsome, he's not, he's actually quite charming actually,
• 53:38
  but as I've said it before, I don't trust the situation and
• 53:42
  it leads me on to something which I've had lined up for today because you asked me if I wanted to talk about something.
• 53:47
  You will be familiar with
• 53:49
  Professor Kevin Macdonald's website, Absolutely. Occidental
• 53:53
  Okay,
• 53:54
  so there is a writer there, I think he's English,
• 53:57
  Tobias Langdon,
• 53:59
  Okay? I'm pretty sure he is because he writes very much about The UK
• 54:03
  freedom of speech,
• 54:04
  yay nay situation
• 54:06
  and other things. There's a post here that went up yesterday,
• 54:10
  right, this is remarkable and I felt completely vindicated when I saw it, wonderful.
• 54:15
  It's called the Ministry of Liberty, how an open borders cult
• 54:19
  will ride Brexit into the European Parliament. Okay? I'll give you the gist of it because it's a good article
• 54:26
  and in fact if I get time when you're talking, I'll stick it in the PPN forum here so others can have a look at it.
• 54:33
  Unknown: He says... Let me just read you a little bit of it because it's relevant very much to everything. Also He says I'll get a copy of it and stick it on the show description today on Castbox, unless it's real long or a link to it, so go ahead.
• 54:45
  Unknown: No, this is fantastic, it's a really really use, it's got an amazing revelation in it which just made me, I went wow, here you go, same old same old. He writes this,
• 54:54
  I'll just jump around a little bit in the article, he says, all good thinking leftists in Britain
• 54:59
  simultaneously
• 55:00
  love non white immigration and hate Nigel Farage.
• 55:04
  This is entirely logical because Farage is the hate filled bigot,
• 55:08
  you've got links, who exploited
• 55:10
  white racism and xenophobia to win the Brexit referendum back in 2016.
• 55:17
  And it goes on to mention a few of the other things that Farage has used which obviously
• 55:21
  make leftists weep or whatever they do. Okay, however,
• 55:25
  now get to the key bit,
• 55:28
  he says:
• 55:30
  but it looks as though
• 55:33
  the elite are soon going to be badly stung again. He's basically been talking about the fact that the elite have never given us any decisions about immigration ever, they've never asked us because they're for it and they know that all of us are not, it's as simple as that. So they've never asked us, so you know, we're in a hostile relationship with our rulers of that. There's no doubt. It's got clearer now.
• 55:53
  He says, but it looks as though the elite are soon going to be badly stung again. Nigel Farage's new Brexit party has a jaw dropping lead in opinion polls. It does. It's twice Next biggest party. Alright. For the European elections on May 23 tomorrow.
• 56:08
  If the polls are right, the hate filled bigot Farage
• 56:11
  and his allies will ride another wave of racism and xenophobia to victory, crushing both Labour and the conservatives
• 56:19
  en route. Here we get to the kicker. Ready?
• 56:22
  But here's a funny thing.
• 56:24
  Three of the leading candidates for Farage's
• 56:27
  party,
• 56:28
  Claire Fox,
• 56:30
  James Hartfield,
• 56:31
  and Alka Segal Cuthbert don't
• 56:34
  simply believe in mass immigration,
• 56:37
  they support
• 56:38
  completely open borders without controls of any kind on an influx of unlimited numbers of people from any and all countries on earth. This is because Fox, Hartfield, and Cuthbert are part of a weird Trotskyite
• 56:54
  sect once called the Revolutionary Communist Party.
• 56:59
  Right in the heart of the Brexit party.
• 57:01
  Seriously.
• 57:04
  Seriously. Right? And I read this today and I just went, wow, same old same old, and it goes on. Let me just give you the other key bit, but it says under the guidance of their and you will be shocked when I say this to you Roger, you'll be surprised beyond belief
• 57:18
  under the guidance, these three people, under the guidance of their Hungarian Jewish guru,
• 57:23
  a sociologist called Frank Furedi,
• 57:26
  f u r e d I Frank Furedi.
• 57:29
  The RCP,
• 57:30
  Revolutionary Communist Party, and its later mutations have campaigned tirelessly
• 57:35
  for the greatest possible liberty of the greatest possible number,
• 57:40
  and it just goes on. Now these people are harbored
• 57:43
  right in the heart of this Brexit party thing,
• 57:46
  it's just incredible and I just sort of started chuckling and thinking about it. So you see I'm not actually casting aspersions directly at Farage, that's that's irrelevant.
• 57:55
  What what I tend to feel with with the whole thing,
• 57:58
  this is just everybody's attention is now taken up with voting in this European thing.
• 58:03
  Right?
• 58:03
  Well we left.
• 58:06
  Why are people? Oh no, we've got to get this, we've to get that, we've got that. We've
• 58:10
  got to shift the narrative, it's very difficult what I'm saying, I do understand that, but there's no point going back in and pretending that another vote, They've simply got people hooked like hamsters in a wheel voting again and again and again. Uh-huh.
• 58:23
  Sea ended on March 29. That's fine. We never lived under it anyway. Now we can see it. But by perpetuating these scenarios, it's mad. We're not in Europe. Why why why are we even voting in these things? Because she wants to have this decision now in October, and people are going, we're the laughing stock of the world, and I'm going, is great. Good. Let's be the laughing stock of the world. Let's be the first laughing stock of the world because I tell you, if you think other countries have run any better than this one, you're out to lunch. They're all this bad. Yeah. They're all this bad. Well, let me go harken back to Alice in Wonderland,
• 58:56
  Unknown: right at the first. And she's sitting up on the limb with her cat.
• 59:00
  If I had a world of my own, everything would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't,
• 59:07
  and what it is, it wouldn't be,
• 59:09
  you see.
• 59:15
  Unknown: Wonder if we could get her as prime minister, Roger. She'd be better than May.
• 59:20
  Now it's not I actually wanna vote for a cabbage. I'm looking for a cabbage. I mean, seriously, I wanna put a cabbage party and just put inanimate vegetables. Well Forward because at least they wouldn't proactively work against the interest of the people and there's nothing wrong with vegetables and I'd get people for vegetable
• 59:34
  Unknown: hate. If they came out with it, we could prosecute them, you know, so Well, you know that I personally like Farage as as a politician. I think all the
• 59:43
  the adjectives you laid on him, charismatic
• 59:46
  and
• 59:48
  he's very clever in his words, and I used to love his U KIPP speeches over there years ago when we'd see him against all of the immigration and stuff and what was happening.
• 59:59
  But he's just a
• 1:00:01
  faction now.
• 1:00:03
  It's not him, it's Marie Le Pen. Le Pen's
• 1:00:06
  front right party is probably going to defeat Macron tomorrow.
• 1:00:11
  You've got both Poland and Hungary,
• 1:00:14
  although they've got some differences, they still stand together on immigration,
• 1:00:18
  evidently.
• 1:00:19
  And then you've got this,
• 1:00:22
  what do you call him, a spark plug, a lightning rod, salvini down in Italy that's just right in their Okay?
• 1:00:30
  You've also got... I covered it yesterday a little bit on the show. I was... I couldn't cover it. Actually, I'd have gotten sick if I'd have covered it thoroughly
• 1:00:39
  was what's going on in Spain. I mean, listen, man. It it... It's worse in Spain, at least equal to what's going on the Roger, it's everywhere. Every nation in Europe is like that.
• 1:00:51
  Every single one. I mean, it's just some of the examples, they had different examples of incidents and there was maybe 30 or 40 or more of them and it just made me sick to even look at them.
• 1:01:04
  Unknown: Yeah, well, you know,
• 1:01:08
  should we be surprised?
• 1:01:10
  No,
• 1:01:10
  because
• 1:01:11
  anyone
• 1:01:12
  that's aware of what occurs when you mix incompatible
• 1:01:15
  races together on the same day of real estate, as I keep saying over and over again,
• 1:01:20
  99 times out of 100 you get this every time. America is different in its history, it is different, right? Yeah. But in Europe, all the time, all the time like this. I also
• 1:01:29
  Unknown: remember
• 1:01:29
  a Brit guy named Schweitzer who
• 1:01:33
  went down to Africa and spent his whole life down there?
• 1:01:37
  German or Swiss, I carry on. Albert Schweitzer. Yeah. Uh-huh. And I... One of his comments
• 1:01:42
  was towards the end of his life is these two races cannot live together.
• 1:01:48
  Unknown: No. Schweitzer did a lot to help them, but he he said never turn your back on them, they will eat you. Seriously, that's what he said.
• 1:01:55
  And he said the relationship between us and of course he's different and I'm just... All we're doing is we're quoting him in 1880 order whenever he was out there, right? But he talked of a man, a white man from Europe that came to live with him, a helper like him and
• 1:02:10
  he told that he was going to go and live with them in the bush and Schweitzer said,
• 1:02:15
  strongly advised against this, said you should not do this, this is not going to help you, do not go do this,
• 1:02:21
  you will not be able to help in the way that you think you will, the situation will overcome
• 1:02:26
  you.
• 1:02:27
  Anyway this guy insisted and he went away and six or seven months later he came back and he was completely insane,
• 1:02:32
  totally gone, right, lost his mind because of what he was having to deal with. And what do you expect? Who's at fault there? It's not the Africans are at fault, it's him. He's an idiot.
• 1:02:43
  And it's this compulsion to go off and try and assist in situations where you can't. It's a... There's a sort of an ego about oh we can sort anything out, no we can't. Not only can't you do that, there's no reason for you to do it, it's not going to help anyone, certainly won't help you, you're just looking for brownie points off the scale, you're not going to get them, you're going to become a lunatic, you're mad. Yeah. And we need to point this out to people that are so keen to get plaudits I think for showing you what a bleeding heart lover of everybody else they really are,
• 1:03:11
  which is a form of insanity as far as I'm concerned. It's not sane to do that is it? So
• 1:03:17
  Schweitzer knew exactly what he was talking about. Think and with the relationships then he said, the relationship he says the only way to manage this is as brothers.
• 1:03:26
  He said, I always... He said that's how I address it as brothers, said and I am the elder and more responsible brother, this is the only way it works. He said, any other way results in ruin and and that was from a lifetime of of doing the things that he did. So
• 1:03:41
  I mean it's very different from what's going on in modern Europe, but I mean you know like like I was just touching on there,
• 1:03:47
  our leaders,
• 1:03:49
  and I have this conversation with lots of white people, I say
• 1:03:52
  were your parents, my parents in the 1940s,
• 1:03:56
  when this began in 1945
• 1:03:59
  immediately almost upon the cessation of hostilities
• 1:04:02
  from World War two,
• 1:04:03
  were they asked if they wanted it? People don't want to answer as well were we asked? And the answer is no, we were not. Why? Because the answer was no, that's why you weren't asked. But you wouldn't... Answer was absolutely... They didn't ask because your answer wouldn't have made any difference.
• 1:04:20
  Well, that's that's true. It would just been another problem and so
• 1:04:24
  this is why, you know,
• 1:04:26
  my sort of my stance with regards to democracy
• 1:04:29
  is it doesn't exist, that's not a problem, the problem is you believing that it still exists, that's the problem, you buying into a bogus paradigm,
• 1:04:39
  it doesn't exist,
• 1:04:40
  it's just a bit of theater,
• 1:04:42
  your vote makes a difference, what a hilariously stupid idea that is, it doesn't? Well...
• 1:04:47
  It just doesn't because you know the problem we have is that whoever you vote for the government always gets in.
• 1:04:54
  They're there while the vote's going on. May... These are the people that... It may
• 1:04:59
  Unknown: deter them or cause them to take a different course,
• 1:05:03
  but it doesn't matter in the end from their point of view. I should reach over and grab it and play it. I've got a short video, I won't go through that, I'll just give you the background. It's from an Israeli guy that's got high connections
• 1:05:18
  and he's talking about this Iran situation
• 1:05:21
  and Bolton and
• 1:05:23
  Pompeo up there were just trying to start a war anywhere in the damn world, okay?
• 1:05:28
  And so he said, evidently what happened is the media did a poll as they've run up on this Venezuelan and Iran thing,
• 1:05:37
  and they found over 90%
• 1:05:39
  of the people were against going to war with Iran.
• 1:05:42
  And because of those findings,
• 1:05:45
  he says his information with top connections to the White House,
• 1:05:49
  is that they've decided to put that on hold
• 1:05:53
  and go back and get the
• 1:05:56
  public's trust
• 1:05:57
  and back off on the aggressive stuff,
• 1:06:00
  and then later, once they've got the public's trust, after the election, they'll come back and try and get it going again.
• 1:06:06
  But evidently,
• 1:06:08
  that kind of a finger in the air, a telltale,
• 1:06:11
  has told them to back off, so they are sensitive to it. But let me go back when you're talking about democracy,
• 1:06:18
  literally means from the Greek
• 1:06:20
  mob rule,
• 1:06:22
  okay? And the
• 1:06:24
  founders of our country hated democracy,
• 1:06:27
  and basically it'll work as
• 1:06:29
  long as
• 1:06:30
  up
• 1:06:32
  until the point that 51%
• 1:06:34
  of the people realize they can vote their hands into your pockets, and then it's done.
• 1:06:41
  See,
• 1:06:42
  of looking
• 1:06:43
  out and trying to change the world,
• 1:06:46
  the focus should be looking in and trying to change yourself,
• 1:06:49
  and it's through people changing themselves, and once again this idea that we try and prop for here of being a fasci,
• 1:06:57
  not a fascist,
• 1:06:58
  a fasci, which is the Roman symbol of the strong reeds bound together with the axe head in the top, and it's through that individual
• 1:07:07
  strength
• 1:07:07
  that we will gain collective strength.
• 1:07:10
  And that's really the approach. At this point, after all these years of trying this and every approach possible that I've been able to come up with, that's the only conclusion I can hang my hat on and and feel comfortable with.
• 1:07:24
  Unknown: Yeah. I I understand that. I I I do. I mean, the only sort of voting
• 1:07:29
  action proposition that I've heard recently that appeals to me, and this is nothing new, this has existed ever since democracy started,
• 1:07:36
  is like the spoiler vote.
• 1:07:39
  Right now though, within the state of affairs here,
• 1:07:42
  the idea of that is is something that could really
• 1:07:46
  have a very strong effect and what I mean is we
• 1:07:50
  have...
• 1:07:51
  I don't know if touched on it last week, about
• 1:07:54
  six thirty
• 1:07:56
  constituencies
• 1:07:56
  here in The UK,
• 1:07:58
  which means six thirty MPs, members of parliament are elected
• 1:08:03
  and whichever party has the most number of MPs that were elected ends up has to form a government and run the country supposedly.
• 1:08:12
  However,
• 1:08:13
  it's the party system that's part of the problem because as you well know,
• 1:08:17
  the parties are controlled by extremely strong financial forces and the rest and
• 1:08:24
  there are long term things that have to be considered. I do accept that by the way, know the civil service over here is basically the management tool of the whole thing. Poor
• 1:08:33
  civil servants are actually burdened with these egotistical
• 1:08:36
  mediocrities
• 1:08:37
  every four or five years and have to put up with all their nonsense, whereas in fact they probably do know the best way to actually organize things on a practical level.
• 1:08:46
  But the idea would be to
• 1:08:49
  vote for the independent candidates
• 1:08:53
  to stop these people getting a job.
• 1:08:56
  I think that this would would right now be highly relevant actually
• 1:09:00
  because it wouldn't matter
• 1:09:02
  the so called political
• 1:09:04
  acumen or skill set of any of the independent candidates.
• 1:09:08
  If they got in and did nothing, the country would run better.
• 1:09:11
  Literally,
• 1:09:12
  it it would because those that are in power are actively
• 1:09:17
  causing things that make the country
• 1:09:20
  Unknown: ready to be absorbed into Europe, which we do not want. Can't get this. I don't know if it was John Adams or John Quincy Adams' son, one of them said this in the early days of our country, the worst thing that can happen to America...
• 1:09:36
  Can you fill in the blanks?
• 1:09:40
  No, I'm not good at your quizzes, Roger. You you do it.... A two party political system, and since I didn't know whether it was John Adams or John Quincy Adams, I don't know whether this is Dwayne or Darryl but my sense is it's Darryl. How you doing, buddy?
• 1:09:55
  Unknown: Hey. Hey, guys. Hi, Paul. Dwayne here. Hey. Hi, Dwayne. Great show.
• 1:10:01
  Unknown: How's Daryl getting off? I'm
• 1:10:03
  Unknown: I'm I'm getting on I'm getting on jolly well, to tell you the truth. Jolly good.
• 1:10:09
  Jolly well. Jolly good. And
• 1:10:12
  over here, we call it the Jolly Rancher. I got a sweet tooth for it. So... Oh, those are good.
• 1:10:19
  Unknown: Save me the save me the save me the save me the watermelons.
• 1:10:24
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. Those are... I actually went to the factory. It was out in Colorado Springs,
• 1:10:30
  Colorado. But
• 1:10:32
  Paul, you're familiar with the
• 1:10:35
  the the so called science of anthropology, aren't you? You're you're familiar with that. Right? Yeah. Right. Well, they they they tried to break it down into three races, and and
• 1:10:46
  so we
• 1:10:48
  we've entered this new unfolding of of reality where we're transforming the world. And they they
• 1:10:55
  they finally... The anthropologists came out with a a new category,
• 1:10:59
  a classification
• 1:11:01
  of of race to acknowledge
• 1:11:03
  this transformation,
• 1:11:05
  you know, the trans transgender
• 1:11:07
  transformative
• 1:11:09
  transnation
• 1:11:11
  transnational.
• 1:11:12
  And and so you're familiar with the the Caucasian race. Correct?
• 1:11:17
  Unknown: Well, some of them. Yes.
• 1:11:19
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, they've they've got a they've got a they've got a new spin off of that. It's called the the Caucasoid.
• 1:11:27
  The... It's the Caucasoid race
• 1:11:29
  and it's it's where you effeminize the white males
• 1:11:33
  Unknown: and this is a cuckoo boy. This is new term, is it? How how new is this?
• 1:11:38
  Unknown: I thought it up this morning.
• 1:11:40
  Unknown: Oh, that's pretty new.
• 1:11:43
  Unknown: So you thought that up with a watermelon. Is that right? Is this what went... Where this is the basic... What are you putting in your coffee? I have a...
• 1:11:50
  Unknown: Yeah. I... Listen. I wake up I wake up with the afterburners on. And
• 1:11:56
  so I I was just I was just watching. I was listening to these people, these these these shills and stuff, and I go, I'm a bunch of cucks. So these are cuckazoids.
• 1:12:06
  And
• 1:12:08
  and,
• 1:12:10
  you know, I just I just... You know, I'm a modifier. I was a kid. I was a hot rodder. I was always hot rodding things. I'd get a lawn mower, and I'd see how I could make it,
• 1:12:19
  you know, turn up so fast that it throw a rod. You know? I was always trying to hot rod it.
• 1:12:24
  And
• 1:12:25
  and that's that's what I do now is I build things. I I look at something, and I go, how how can I make this more extreme? How can I how can I how can I turn the heat up on this thing?
• 1:12:37
  And I'm 62 years old, and I'm still hot rodding. And
• 1:12:41
  and
• 1:12:42
  I I think we need to do that with our language. You know? And
• 1:12:46
  like that that that young guy I did with
• 1:12:49
  the the best prime minister they ever had, Howard or whatever it was. You know? He
• 1:12:54
  he was,
• 1:12:56
  you know, he was
• 1:12:58
  politely indignant as to what I was getting and
• 1:13:02
  not not giving him their leave.
• 1:13:04
  Have you seen any of that? No. I haven't, but I was
• 1:13:07
  I was charmed. I was charmed by it. I
• 1:13:11
  Unknown: actually... I'll tell you, it's absolutely dazzling. It's got this natural street communication spontaneity about it that's fantastic and this young lad is just sort of like coming at him with all these awkward questions and just won't let go But he's doing it in such a breezy way that it's difficult. He can't sort of unstick himself. Fantastic. Brilliant. Wonderful.
• 1:13:31
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:13:32
  Well, I... See, I I I found that
• 1:13:34
  really exciting because about a half hour before the show started today, I had a conversation with the esteemed mister Cave,
• 1:13:42
  and we were talking about some few... A few things. And
• 1:13:45
  I said, you know, I... I've sort of come up with a a...
• 1:13:48
  You know, every... Everybody has to have a...
• 1:13:51
  I need a mission statement. You know? I have to have an objective,
• 1:13:55
  and it has to be clearly defined,
• 1:13:57
  and it needs to be something that can be achievable.
• 1:14:01
  Okay?
• 1:14:01
  And so I've been thinking about this for a while. And partly due to listening to you and different conversations and different people in this sort of process.
• 1:14:12
  And and here's here's one of my objectives.
• 1:14:17
  And and see how this how this how this sits with you.
• 1:14:21
  You know, I'm I'm 62.
• 1:14:23
  I maybe got another twenty years where I can be really effective.
• 1:14:28
  And I don't I don't know if we're gonna win this thing in the manner that we'd like to win it. But I tell you, here's a good one for him. I'd like to leave... When I leave here, I'd like to leave about
• 1:14:42
  a couple million
• 1:14:44
  18 year old
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  full of testosterone,
• 1:14:48
  critical thinking, well educated,
• 1:14:51
  pissed off young men.
• 1:14:53
  Unknown: There's a few other... I'd like to leave that... I'd like to drop that in their lap. There's some problems. Drop that in your lap. Daryl, I was gonna say earlier, and you triggered it again, so I must need to cover it. In the... This is what I lost earlier, Paul. In the early days of the book, in that time between when it was exposed and when it was published,
• 1:15:13
  I was in Argentina
• 1:15:15
  and there was a guy that's half Swiss and half Canadian,
• 1:15:20
  and he got ahold of me and he was 22
• 1:15:24
  years old,
• 1:15:25
  okay, and he's a horse trainer.
• 1:15:28
  He had carried both passports.
• 1:15:30
  He was a horse trainer
• 1:15:32
  and he had gotten a job at Afinca down there below where I was living to train horses for the summer in Argentina.
• 1:15:40
  And he got ahold of me and he said, I won't buy your book until I can meet you in person and shake your hand.
• 1:15:47
  And that kid detoured on his trip to Argentina and came to San Rafael
• 1:15:52
  and spent three days with me there,
• 1:15:56
  and he, at 21 the year before
• 1:15:59
  in his summer vacation,
• 1:16:01
  he had spent his summer vacation going to Auburn, Alabama over there in your part of the world, Darrell,
• 1:16:08
  and going down to their Von Mises summer program and went through the Austrian economics
• 1:16:15
  thing at 21 years old. So I know they're out there. There's not many of them, Darrell, but those kind of young people are out there, okay? They're well grounded,
• 1:16:25
  they understand that they're the wool pulled over their eyes, and that their future is very bleak.
• 1:16:30
  And to me, one of the most ironic
• 1:16:33
  things of this whole change that we're in and about to go through in more intensity
• 1:16:37
  is that for these Millennials that are in so much damn problems financially in the future, the only thing that's going to save them is capitalism,
• 1:16:47
  what they're railing against.
• 1:16:49
  That's the only way they're going to get their butts out of the sling, is true capitalism.
• 1:16:57
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:16:58
  Mia, I I mean, listen.
• 1:17:01
  If you're eighteen eighteen to 20 years old and you're you're gonna be... The the future that they're creating is gonna deprive all these young men of loving. They're not gonna get any loving. Nope. Alright?
• 1:17:14
  And that's a that's a powerful that's a powerful force. Now, of course, they're lowering the sperm count and they're they're they're committing
• 1:17:23
  genocide right now chemically
• 1:17:25
  Yep. Through
• 1:17:27
  the debasement and degradation
• 1:17:29
  of these
• 1:17:31
  young men
• 1:17:33
  worldwide,
• 1:17:34
  particularly in the Western countries, though, England,
• 1:17:38
  you know, Europe, definitely here.
• 1:17:42
  You cut your... You know, the sperm count, the fertility rate, young men has been dropped by about seventy percent. You know? And
• 1:17:51
  so they're trying to breed or hybridize
• 1:17:54
  this out of them.
• 1:17:56
  And
• 1:17:57
  they I mean, they know what they're doing. They play dirty.
• 1:18:00
  And...
• 1:18:01
  But
• 1:18:02
  young men young men wanna... They have impulses and they have desires and they have...
• 1:18:09
  And and these are all good things.
• 1:18:11
  And
• 1:18:12
  and it's being taken away from them. And we we need to educate them as to why they're not gonna have any loving, you know, and and get them mad. Alright?
• 1:18:22
  You know, this this whole thing about being nice is way
• 1:18:26
  overrated.
• 1:18:28
  Unknown: It's it's very counterproductive.
• 1:18:30
  Unknown: Get them mad. The time for niceness is over. It's over a long time ago, really. It's just been like... It's like a train that still keeps going down the same nice track, and know, we need to put a... We get off this one. This is a waste of time. Let's be as nice as they are when they talk between themselves at the synagogue.
• 1:18:49
  Yeah. Well, you know, I think the
• 1:18:54
  situation with young people is is is great. I can't stand saying that. I hate saying it. I feel like some sort of middle aged fuck. Well, they're young people you know of today. I mean, that's all the way it came across, you know. We were always sort of late to this big gap really in people, but there isn't a gap. There really isn't a gap. And I I don't... I hate it when old people try and be trendy,
• 1:19:16
  but then again, I hate it when young people try and be trendy as well because generally it's foul. It's always garbage. It's the lowest common denominator stuff.
• 1:19:24
  But there there are there are bright people across all the age ranges and the genders and it's a matter of them recognizing one another and taking the lead in communications.
• 1:19:32
  This is, you know that phrase from Edmund Burke, all it takes for evil blah blah blah is for good men to do nothing? Correct. Well it's that but it's actually got to the point where it's all it takes for evil to win through is for good men to say nothing. Saying things is one of the most powerful doing things right now going as long as you're saying it articulate or at least things that are grounded in in sound understanding, you know. And and of course So that's what practical correctness was brought in from the Frankfurt School to quell and
• 1:19:59
  Unknown: now we've got, you mentioned it earlier, Paul, the hate laws.
• 1:20:03
  You probably would not be surprised, you know the origin of that,
• 1:20:08
  of those things?
• 1:20:10
  Unknown: Well, I would have put down to Frankfurt School and everything about just controlling words and so on and so forth, but I just wanted to let you know as well that we got a situation over here.
• 1:20:19
  This is somebody I'm hoping to speak to soon. I I got a... I bumped into a guy last year at a little lunch. I actually went out to lunch one day, strange. It doesn't happen to me often. It was great. Oh, sorry. I got all misty eyed and sentimental back then. So I got out to lunch. I went up to London, unfortunately, but there we go. There were a bunch of us. I bumped into a guy,
• 1:20:36
  and it turns out, I didn't realize this, that he's the barrister for a guy over here who's fighting five g.
• 1:20:44
  Now they're seeking to obviously implement five g technology here and I only found this out last week and that this guy called Mark Steele, he's the guy that's fighting five gs, was up against Newcastle County Council, he's trying to prosecute them for you know doing certain things.
• 1:21:00
  I'm gonna get him on, I have to get him on because one of the questions I have in a completely open and relatively innocent way, I'm not trying to sort of manipulate it, is what is the true status in my nation of free speech? What do we if I say free speech, what is it that I'm actually referring to? Because the issues got so cloudy people don't know
• 1:21:21
  what we're talking about right and
• 1:21:24
  this is not about the promotion of hate, although I don't have a problem with hate, I have a problem with people that hate hate as I've said before because
• 1:21:32
  hatred
• 1:21:34
  is an intrinsic part of life. I mean if you don't have hatred you haven't got love because that's what Burke said as well, those that will not love where they ought to love cannot hate where they ought to hate.
• 1:21:47
  The two are inextricably
• 1:21:48
  linked because if you hate something
• 1:21:51
  and we all do
• 1:21:53
  and our menu of hates changes and evolves with time it seems to me, rightly so, as you evolve hopefully or
• 1:22:01
  possibly even get wiser, know, we've all got our fingers in the wind for that one, but if that occurs
• 1:22:07
  it simply means you've got values and standards. So if someone gets in your space
• 1:22:12
  and starts to interfere with your values
• 1:22:15
  and they do it persistently
• 1:22:17
  and then you find out that they've got a persistent plan and that they're consciously doing this and it's causing you distress,
• 1:22:22
  there's a very good chance you'll begin to a) hate their behavior and if it carries on hate them because you'll run out of energy to just break it down to the level of I hate your behavior. Now it's I actually really hate you because you're doing this all the time, you never stop doing this and I you know I never invited you to do this, why are doing this around me? Stop it, you know, and of course it escalates. But why would
• 1:22:44
  a conscious being not hate things? Of course you will!
• 1:22:47
  You
• 1:22:48
  can't stop, I mean you can't regulate against that, know, are you hating? Yeah, I was, I was quietly just in that corner just then saying nothing, having really good hate.
• 1:22:58
  Unknown: I think
• 1:23:00
  it was in the 90s and the ADL put a worldwide
• 1:23:03
  call out through their community connections
• 1:23:07
  on a way to combat anti Semitism
• 1:23:11
  and this was an idea that was proffered by a,
• 1:23:16
  let's say, 20 ish Jewish female.
• 1:23:19
  And now that we're talking about it, and I'm thinking about it here while you're talking about it, all they've done is taken the... Because the opposite, the dialectic of love is hate, and it's got to be there.
• 1:23:31
  And all they've done is just focused on one side of the equivocation
• 1:23:36
  dialectic.
• 1:23:37
  And now they've got everybody out there, and they're using political correctness and these hate speech ideas and concepts, which are ridiculous
• 1:23:45
  in themselves,
• 1:23:46
  that have been instituted into all these country's legislative
• 1:23:50
  procedure in in their law books now. Right.
• 1:23:54
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, see, Roger. Roger. Yes. What what what you just... What, yeah, what you just brought out, I I don't know if that was your words or you were just saying their words,
• 1:24:03
  but that's the that's the epitome of the false dialect ic right there because the the opposite of love is not hate.
• 1:24:12
  Okay. It's not.
• 1:24:14
  It's not. The opposite of love is not hate.
• 1:24:18
  Opposite of love Is absence of love? Is indifference.
• 1:24:22
  Absence. Is indifference.
• 1:24:23
  Indifference.
• 1:24:24
  Apathy.
• 1:24:25
  Indifference.
• 1:24:26
  That's the opposite of love.
• 1:24:28
  Alright? Because...
• 1:24:30
  And and so
• 1:24:34
  this
• 1:24:35
  this is one of the one of the words... This is one of the false dialectic words, premises that are stuck
• 1:24:41
  into people's minds that I use when I play the game word with people. I've I've got... I I have a game. I play the game word.
• 1:24:50
  And
• 1:24:51
  I take common words, and those are one of the very first ones I use.
• 1:24:56
  And we start going through it,
• 1:24:58
  and they go... And you just see their eyes
• 1:25:01
  and their jaw drops open.
• 1:25:04
  And they they they, see, they they based... They've been basing their thinking and their conversation and their thoughts,
• 1:25:11
  and they're going down
• 1:25:13
  a false dialectic.
• 1:25:16
  And
• 1:25:17
  and
• 1:25:19
  that's that's the perfect one right there.
• 1:25:21
  It's...
• 1:25:25
  You can't... You know, when you're disassociated from... If you love somebody, why why you do anything for them. Right? I mean, you know, if we're talking about the right the right form of love, you know, there's all kinds of love, you know. So when you say love, what do you mean? Agape. You know? Agape. And... Okay.
• 1:25:41
  Right. So
• 1:25:42
  selfless,
• 1:25:44
  you know, love.
• 1:25:46
  I was sacrificed for you. Okay. And it's all... Okay. So you have to... You know, this is how you can attack these people when they start using these words. You know, you attack their ignorance,
• 1:25:56
  and, they they might even be well meaning, and you attack their ignorance. You go, well, okay. Well, we're gonna have to play word error because you don't know what you're talking about again. You're illiterate.
• 1:26:06
  Okay. It it...
• 1:26:08
  Let's... And then you find out if the people that you're talking to in the situation
• 1:26:14
  have
• 1:26:15
  have the the willingness
• 1:26:17
  to step back from what they think they know and actually learn something now.
• 1:26:21
  Alright? Or do they just wanna fight and argue? Well, I mean, I I can go either way. I'll roll with it either way. But,
• 1:26:29
  when I was in Milwaukee,
• 1:26:32
  when I was in Milwaukee last month and I I had this long conversation with this, black professional guy, and this was this was one of the words.
• 1:26:40
  And he... We were having this conversation, and this love hate thing came up.
• 1:26:45
  And and I I ran through the game word with him, and he said, can we just stop here for a minute? And he was quiet for about ten seconds.
• 1:26:54
  He was quiet for about ten seconds,
• 1:26:57
  and he said, I just had to soak that in because
• 1:27:02
  I had never
• 1:27:03
  thought about that. Yep. K?
• 1:27:06
  And it changed. It changed his core. He internalized something right then because I challenged his false dialectic,
• 1:27:14
  and it changed. It it... And and so his perception,
• 1:27:19
  his his internal perception became different. His... I modified...
• 1:27:23
  I gave him the opportunity to modify his subroutine in his brain, program modification.
• 1:27:30
  And and
• 1:27:32
  so... But we have to we have to we have to know these things, okay, to help people.
• 1:27:38
  It's it's a little bit like being a therapist
• 1:27:40
  in
• 1:27:43
  order to help them.
• 1:27:45
  And...
• 1:27:46
  Well well, listen. You know, you you... In in England, Britain, Europe, you know, everybody wants to be protected from their own ignorance. Well, you know, the state's more than happy to do that for you. I can remain ignorant and happy. Well, I'm sorry. You know? I I I can't.
• 1:28:02
  But...
• 1:28:03
  So
• 1:28:04
  I'm sorry I took it off. I I detoured it, but that was Ignorant.
• 1:28:09
  Unknown: Now there's no... There's no... You didn't detour it at all. I think that's really important stuff. It is. Ignorance, there's a saying, an old cliche, Daryl, that says ignorance is bliss and I've always thought that there's a lot of truth to that.
• 1:28:23
  Unknown: Well, I... Is
• 1:28:25
  Unknown: that what you're saying, Roger? No, no, no, but I understand what they're saying because I'm trying to go out there and take these people from functional illiteracy
• 1:28:34
  and you put facts in front of them and they want to argue with you about facts,
• 1:28:40
  Unknown: okay? I used to do that. Path as It's well, isn't it? I mean, right now, I'm functionally illiterate about particle physics.
• 1:28:48
  I am. Right? Yeah. I don't I don't end up in many conversations about particle physics, but if I do, the first thing I'm gonna be saying is, really? You want me in here? Because I I don't know what... Well,
• 1:28:59
  we
• 1:29:00
  Unknown: might be able to start a conversation about the when you talk about the basics. How about string theory?
• 1:29:06
  Don't know this. Theory. I want a I want a in-depth discussion on string theory here today. Absolutely right.
• 1:29:13
  Unknown: I don't know I want that, you know. But I mean this word ignorance,
• 1:29:18
  just I mean the root of it, maybe we've touched on this before but I find this useful with regards to that word
• 1:29:25
  is that the root of that word is the word ignore
• 1:29:29
  and
• 1:29:30
  when you ignore something
• 1:29:32
  and I you know, what are you doing? Well you're conscious that that thing exists,
• 1:29:37
  whatever it is, because then you're about to start ignoring it, you're about to not pay attention to it. Whether you think you're doing it consciously or unconsciously,
• 1:29:46
  know,
• 1:29:48
  taps running in the bathroom, yeah right, whatever, you know, hey the bathroom's full of water! Oh, yeah.
• 1:29:54
  Wish I was ignorant. I was ignorant. Well, you were ign... Yeah. So ignorant,
• 1:29:59
  an ignorant is a is a person who is in a condition who tends to ignore things, it's like being an ignorant
• 1:30:06
  and it's ignorance,
• 1:30:08
  know, it's not ignorance,
• 1:30:09
  it's ignorance
• 1:30:11
  and you're ignoring a and
• 1:30:13
  there is the words and I link this in with the word sin,
• 1:30:18
  which is to you know, to come up short, you're firing, it comes from Greek archery as far as I'm aware, you're aiming at the target, you come up short. You don't even get to the target. To miss the miss the target, I think it means, you miss the mark, you've come up short,
• 1:30:33
  so you've sinned, you've erred in the sense that you did not do what you intended to do and there are all these sins of course that are catalogued throughout all sorts of you know documents going back thousands of years, but there really is only one,
• 1:30:46
  I think, and it's the sin of ignoring things
• 1:30:50
  which starts with ignoring the lawyer. I don't need those 10 commandments, know they exist. Yeah, yeah sure, but I don't pay any attention to them. They don't apply You
• 1:30:58
  know? They don't apply That's to
• 1:30:59
  why your country's going to dog manure, know? This is what's going on. Is it? Well, I don't know, but you might want to pay attention to it, know? That's what it's kind of about. Well, you did a... Paul, you were... Or when you were using the word hate earlier, you were bringing out some powerful...
• 1:31:18
  Unknown: As a powerful subject of hate, and you you did a really good job of
• 1:31:25
  of escalating
• 1:31:26
  it. And,
• 1:31:28
  it's really important for people to
• 1:31:31
  be able to grasp this in real time. So
• 1:31:34
  what you were doing as listening to you do it, in real time, you were going from a what to a who.
• 1:31:41
  You went from what to who.
• 1:31:43
  And and and when you go from a I dislike what you're doing to
• 1:31:50
  I hate you,
• 1:31:52
  that is an escalation.
• 1:31:54
  And and
• 1:31:55
  so here's here's a here's
• 1:31:58
  a little trick for everybody. Put it in your tool bag. Think about it. Try to try to apply this in your life today. Go out and actually use it in your friends, family, and workplace.
• 1:32:09
  And I know don't fight with people, but just
• 1:32:12
  see if you can just as a as a action, as a practice,
• 1:32:17
  start to identify
• 1:32:18
  the difference between who and what.
• 1:32:22
  Do I dislike you or do I dislike what you're doing?
• 1:32:26
  Alright?
• 1:32:27
  And and this is very critical
• 1:32:33
  when engaging people,
• 1:32:34
  particularly in combat. Is this a who or a what issue? Am I having a who or what issue here? Okay? And if you true. And and and and if you can't if you can't, you're gonna get sun sued.
• 1:32:47
  You're get sun sued. So this is... You're
• 1:32:50
  Unknown: sparking something off in me as well, it goes back quite a few decades in my thinking and studying, which was to do with
• 1:32:57
  working with say employees or co workers right and you're seeking to... They're doing something right, they're doing something that the other boss say in this scenario, they're doing something it didn't work and you
• 1:33:09
  have to provide feedback to get this behavior corrected.
• 1:33:13
  So it is in essence and always is behavior
• 1:33:17
  in the sense that
• 1:33:19
  you know like let's take George Bush the second, the
• 1:33:23
  guy that this guy in this video we're just going about referred to in such a fruity way, right? I can't disagree with his assessment based on,
• 1:33:31
  but what is it about the second George Bush that's bad? Well I can't tell you the state of his eternal soul because
• 1:33:38
  those things are privy to me with regards to every other entity on earth, I have no idea about that.
• 1:33:44
  All you can go on is their behavior, it is their behavior that you hate.
• 1:33:48
  I think what occurs, it's just a guess right, is if you can say stay supremely enlightened and disconnected from your own rage, which is difficult I would suggest it is,
• 1:33:58
  then you can always analyze and look at people, oh he's behaving really badly, Stalin behaved really badly by having all those people shot to death in that forest, those Polish offices, very bad behavior, Joseph, very very bad, but when it's consistent, when it's persistently like that, you end up hating the person.
• 1:34:14
  Unknown: Only problem is he then did it to the Ukraines
• 1:34:17
  and the Russians and everybody else they came in contact with. So my question is, when do you cross that line from what they're doing to who they are when you see enough of their
• 1:34:29
  exploits to understand that this is emanating from them?
• 1:34:34
  And it's not what they're doing, it's who they are.
• 1:34:39
  Unknown: You... You've you've escalated this now.
• 1:34:41
  No. You're okay. You've escalated this. I was trying to de escalate this. You've escalated it.
• 1:34:48
  It's my it's my nature. Happens today. We're going up up up with this one. Come on. Keep up. Yeah. So I I was just I was just trying to I was just trying to bring it down to something that was digestible and approachable, the concept, to people
• 1:35:04
  in, like,
• 1:35:05
  when you're when you're when your kid's over there and he's
• 1:35:10
  he's he's got his feet up on the... On your on your favorite table or something like that. Now do you hate your kid? No.
• 1:35:17
  But you you don't like what he's doing.
• 1:35:20
  Alright? You have to make specific decisions.... Bring it... Bring bring it... Yes. Bring it back down to something, you know... Learn to walk with this before you try try running.
• 1:35:31
  Because if you try running with it, it's gonna overwhelm you. Alright?
• 1:35:35
  This is a big deal,
• 1:35:37
  and it's at the foundation
• 1:35:39
  of human interaction and conflict resolution.
• 1:35:42
  And I'm all about conflict resolution,
• 1:35:45
  which means that I'm gonna have to confront
• 1:35:47
  conflict.
• 1:35:48
  Yeah.
• 1:35:49
  In order to in order to in order to make this better, we're gonna have to learn how to confront conflict,
• 1:35:56
  and that's why
• 1:35:58
  being able to parse these things in real time and real skills
• 1:36:02
  to know how to proceed with these people. And when you... And so it's it's a Sun Tzu thing.
• 1:36:09
  When you know yourself and you're aware you were the battle space and you know them,
• 1:36:15
  and then
• 1:36:16
  then you can apply techniques to either escalate if it's to your advantage or deescalate.
• 1:36:23
  And,
• 1:36:25
  you know, there's gonna be a conflict. We're just trying to negotiate whether they know it or not,
• 1:36:30
  how we're gonna resolve it. And I prefer to deescalate things,
• 1:36:35
  particularly in the workspace and in families and friendships and relationships.
• 1:36:39
  And
• 1:36:42
  so... But I I...
• 1:36:45
  You know, you had to be prepared to escalate it. But this is a very narrow...
• 1:36:51
  It's very narrow. It's very tiny aspect of conflict resolution where you actually would escalate it because then it's winner take all. Alright? At that point, it's winner take all, and somebody's gonna win, somebody's gonna lose, and lose badly.
• 1:37:06
  And are you prepared to be that one?
• 1:37:09
  Alright. So
• 1:37:11
  this is this is,
• 1:37:13
  you know, these are these are these small little skills
• 1:37:16
  that we have to have in order to get to this,
• 1:37:22
  passage passage knowledge on. This is human factors, human training, human behavior.
• 1:37:27
  I mean, when you got two guys sitting in a cockpit with each other, do you want this to... Do you want things to escalate, do you want to reconcile?
• 1:37:35
  So the the outcome...
• 1:37:37
  Part of the outcome on what you're talking about, I heard earlier in the show, and I've heard you talk about this a lot, Paul,
• 1:37:43
  is
• 1:37:47
  the...
• 1:37:49
  This this... How do we reconcile these things?
• 1:37:53
  What are the tools that we use?
• 1:37:55
  And so when you can separate your who's and what's, then you can go to how.
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  So so this is how it works. You go,
• 1:38:03
  okay. I got... Do I have a who or what going on here?
• 1:38:07
  Alright. So now I... I've I've chose. Okay. This is a this is a who. I'll take this course of action. This is how I'm gonna do it. K? You gotta have a plan.
• 1:38:17
  And and then
• 1:38:19
  along with that comes this next next skill. It's called an assertive
• 1:38:25
  statement.
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  People don't know how to do it. I find very few people that can make a real
• 1:38:32
  effective
• 1:38:33
  assertive
• 1:38:34
  statements, statements,
• 1:38:35
  and they're powerful.
• 1:38:37
  And we had to teach people how to do it because they didn't know how to do it. The mom didn't teach them. The dad didn't teach them. They didn't learn it in school. We had to teach them how to make assertive statements,
• 1:38:48
  and it made very people very uncomfortable.
• 1:38:51
  Alright?
• 1:38:52
  So
• 1:38:54
  Unknown: this is all part of this process. Give us give us an example. I think right at the heart of that, that discomfort you're talk... You're addressing lies at the heart of nearly all of these escalations
• 1:39:04
  of things that
• 1:39:06
  could be nipped in the bud. I mean when you are younger, when one is a child and doesn't have the language or even the developed sensibilities,
• 1:39:14
  it's often you know throwing mud pies at one another, I want this, I want that, blah blah blah. Okay so we go through that and it's not lethal thankfully because we don't equip children with machine guns, although I know some people think that this might be a good idea but we don't do that.
• 1:39:28
  When we get a little bit older of course we have to step back but but getting specific about what it is that's bugging you, because it always is something that's bugging you, something's not happening the way you want it to go,
• 1:39:40
  you know, if you're
• 1:39:42
  if you're bovine in your thinking and we all were and still are prone to it, you know, you don't give it some conscious thoughts, the great thing, it's all about getting more conscious all the time, then you end up saying, I really hate you or you know get out of my... These are rather brutal sort of statements that are said brutal in the sense that they're blunt and they're not precise. But when you say things to people like, every time you come into my office and you put that horse manure on my desk and you leave that there, right, it really upsets me, Right? I get very, very upset. Exactly. And I want you to stop doing good.
• 1:40:16
  Unknown: Yeah? That's a very
• 1:40:18
  good... Listen.
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  I'm... If I wasn't hold... Holding the phone in a cigar right now, I'd start clapping. That is a
• 1:40:27
  excellent
• 1:40:28
  assertive statement.
• 1:40:29
  It encompasses all the aspects of your assertive
• 1:40:33
  Unknown: Yeah. You you... What you're addressing in the other person is the behavior that's causing a problem for you, and you're inviting them to see your problem. You say, you know every time you put that horsemen, you on your desk, yeah, it doesn't work for me, right? It's upsetting, right? I have to... And then you go off to lunch and you leave it there for an hour, this is not... I have to eat my lunch here and there's the whole office smells of horsemen, would you please stop doing that, Right.
• 1:40:58
  And they go, you know, then they've got a decision to make about whether you are more important to them or putting the horse manure on the desk is more important to them. And they're like, no, gonna keep doing that. You go, okay, well we have to think because I can't work in this company with you anymore.
• 1:41:10
  Right? This is not this is not a personal thing. This is not a personal thing at all. It's got nothing to do with that. Right? We can go and play pool do whatever you wanna do. But with regards to you and the horse manure, there's a problem. We gotta find out we gotta find out something in this equation is why they're putting the horse manure on your desk.
• 1:41:28
  Unknown: Well well well, we have a... We have... We we can only we can only... At this point, we really need to deal with our own perspectives on this.
• 1:41:36
  And and so
• 1:41:39
  Paul makes an assertive statement about the the horse excrement on his desk.
• 1:41:44
  Alright? Now if Paul if Paul was a nice guy,
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  defined by who? By somebody else. If you were nice by somebody else's standards and if you were tolerant Paul,
• 1:41:57
  you you just use a stiff upper lip, wouldn't you? Isn't that isn't that what the British do? It just... Oh, it'll it'll pass over. Don't do it. These... Don't don't cause a stir.
• 1:42:08
  Unknown: These
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  flies.
• 1:42:10
  Unknown: You have to. These flies will leave shortly.
• 1:42:15
  Unknown: So,
• 1:42:17
  I mean, you have to... But in order to do what I'm talking about here,
• 1:42:22
  there there requires
• 1:42:23
  something else that you have to do. Do you, the person, you, the... I... Not the person, the individual.
• 1:42:31
  You yourself. You have to do something. You have to possess something in order to do what I'm talking about here. You have to be
• 1:42:39
  self aware.
• 1:42:41
  You can't be hijacked. Your mind can't be hijacked.
• 1:42:45
  You gotta be present. You have to be self aware.
• 1:42:49
  And when
• 1:42:50
  when,
• 1:42:53
  you know,
• 1:42:54
  tapioca
• 1:42:55
  tapioca swirl comes in with his rainbow coalition
• 1:42:59
  bag of manure and pops it on your desk,
• 1:43:03
  you have to be self aware,
• 1:43:05
  and you have to be able to articulate
• 1:43:08
  to mister Tapioka Swirl
• 1:43:11
  that
• 1:43:15
  exactly how you feel about that
• 1:43:18
  directly,
• 1:43:19
  making an assertive statement,
• 1:43:22
  and
• 1:43:23
  you have to be able to do it in real time. You can't... Sometimes you can't wait till thirty seconds later.
• 1:43:29
  You have to be... Let me put it to a different way. You have to be able to tell them
• 1:43:34
  in real time,
• 1:43:37
  and I mean, like, in normal conversational
• 1:43:40
  real time
• 1:43:42
  what they're doing. You have to tell them what they're doing in real time,
• 1:43:48
  and it's like throwing water
• 1:43:51
  on fire.
• 1:43:53
  And and so it might be something as simple as
• 1:43:57
  somebody tries to embarrass you for some reason,
• 1:44:00
  and you just sort of smile and you go, so for the purpose of you... And I've done this before,
• 1:44:07
  and I I would do it on a regular basis, having the opportunity.
• 1:44:11
  If somebody was to embarrass me, I would say... In front of a group of people, I would say, now was the purpose of you trying to embarrass me for your benefit or mine?
• 1:44:20
  And then wait for an answer.
• 1:44:23
  That's it. So you just feed back to them. You tell them in real time what they're doing. Sometimes they're doing it on purpose.
• 1:44:29
  Sometimes they don't even know they're doing it.
• 1:44:32
  Unknown: Alright. This is true.
• 1:44:35
  Unknown: And This is true. And it hammers them. It hammers them. It shocks them. And you'll you'll... You you actually have... You have to... If you wanna be successful at this, you have to be sometimes...
• 1:44:47
  A lot of times, you have to be aware for them because they're so unaware
• 1:44:51
  working on programming,
• 1:44:53
  working on the subconscious,
• 1:44:55
  working on a routine
• 1:44:57
  that they're not even aware of what they're doing. And you, in real time, can feed them awareness
• 1:45:03
  as to what they're doing. Now when you do that, you give them the opportunity to go, woah.
• 1:45:08
  And my bad.
• 1:45:10
  Or they might escalate, and then you go, okay. Well, let's go to the next level here. Because... But now but now you know where you're at. Okay? You have to draw this distinction between you and them.
• 1:45:22
  Alright? You can't let them control the semantics,
• 1:45:25
  the nuances,
• 1:45:27
  the premise.
• 1:45:28
  Okay? Be intolerant of that. You have to learn. And so this is what I'm talking about when I'm talking about being combative and confrontational.
• 1:45:36
  It's very sophisticated. It is. I I don't like that word. It's a skill level. I don't like the word sophistication.
• 1:45:44
  Unknown: It's a skill level. You have to practice it, and this is this is something I used to teach people. You do and I think there's a difference or I'd like to suggest one, I'm not asking anybody to go along with this, but I think that there is a a substantive difference between the word violent and the word aggression.
• 1:46:01
  Aggression is a is a... I know it's classed in military journals as aggressive force a and this that and the other, I'm completely aware of that,
• 1:46:10
  but in terms of personal relationships an aggressive communication
• 1:46:14
  can and often is a creative one in that someone takes the aggressor,
• 1:46:19
  takes the
• 1:46:20
  initiative within the moment
• 1:46:22
  and propels it to that point that's not being discussed that needs to be discussed, thing that everybody, the elephant in the room, whatever it may be, someone needs to pipe up, they have to take an aggressive stance. Violence
• 1:46:33
  is when people begin to shut down the communication and destroy the opportunity Antifa, for
• 1:46:39
  Unknown: antifa tactics. If
• 1:46:42
  Unknown: there's physical violence at some point, it's gonna go because what they sense, what the violator is sensing on a subconscious or even a conscious level, is something's coming down in this conversation that's gonna have to get me to confront my stance, I don't want to do that. I'm not interested in actually internally reflecting on the fact that I might have been wrong for the last twenty five years of my life, which unfortunately many of us probably even now have got that moment, more of those moments coming up, drats, I never saw that you know, but it's to be big enough to go, you're right, you got me, that's okay, that's good because if this is a two step forward, one step back process, which I use as a loose sort of framework for
• 1:47:19
  dealing with my
• 1:47:21
  setbacks
• 1:47:22
  and going this is okay, you you have to be corrected because you'll... It's like in a polishing That's
• 1:47:27
  Unknown: how you learn. Yeah. It's
• 1:47:29
  Unknown: the...
• 1:47:30
  You went back,
• 1:47:32
  you know now that you actually on that other day, you went forward and you go, oh, it confirms things. It is a yin yang universe, is black and white. You need contrast to be able to sense where you are to to to relate to where you're at in your thinking, your stance, whatever it may be. So that's fine. But so so to to aggress in a communication,
• 1:47:51
  I see it as a positive thing.
• 1:47:54
  I see most political communication as being violent.
• 1:47:58
  It's violent communication
• 1:48:00
  because it shuts things down. It stops people getting to that point and politicians in particular
• 1:48:07
  are the worst communicators
• 1:48:09
  of them all because they lack
• 1:48:11
  an integrity but they have a duplicity which is effective,
• 1:48:15
  It is effective, I'm not I'm not saying it's not, it's effective and it's now held together by this armory of media and all sorts of other subtle
• 1:48:23
  things that are used to process the mind of the recipient so that they don't get any resistance to the garbage they're about to come out with.
• 1:48:30
  Whereas in fact you know most of us would I suspect be much more stirred in the heart and in the soul when someone stands up in a room and nails it. These are magnificent moments to be involved with, I should imagine we've all been in a place where someone just speaks truth to power and that's what you want and suddenly the air clears, people even start laughing
• 1:48:49
  and if the guy who's on the receiving end can get the joke as well, bingo, you've got it. Now we can all move on but it's resistance from dull minds
• 1:48:57
  and vicious minds at that that causes most of the problem around here, hence the psychopath, you know, that kind of thing, which we're kind of cursed with to some degree.
• 1:49:05
  Unknown: I've noticed in arguments over the years as y'all are talking on this subject, I'm thinking about it, one of the tactics that I've seen them use is to switch whatever the point is to emotions.
• 1:49:18
  They want to switch it away from facts that they can't overcome and don't want to address
• 1:49:23
  and switch it over to emotions which they comply.
• 1:49:27
  And the question is, well, how would you feel about that? And see, they're always trying to switch you over to the emotional side because that's one of their main weapons. Emotions can be changed. Facts can't.
• 1:49:41
  Unknown: Well, you... So in that in that case in that case, in real time, in that in that Delphi control group informational meeting,
• 1:49:50
  council meeting, wherever that's taking place,
• 1:49:53
  you would have to be able to say to them directly and exactly
• 1:49:58
  as a first response
• 1:50:00
  what they were doing and ask them why they were trying to misrepresent this into a situation of feeling instead of a fact based conversation.
• 1:50:07
  So then you... It's it's... This is combat.
• 1:50:11
  Okay? Who's gonna who's gonna win the high ground of premise?
• 1:50:15
  And if you can't if you can't argue, if you don't know how to argue,
• 1:50:19
  what are you in the fight for? You have... People don't... They... They're too nice. They they they haven't learned how to argue. Well, you know, let me say Arguing is an important skill in life. If you won't stand up for your position, you've got no position.
• 1:50:36
  Unknown: And I don't even necessarily
• 1:50:38
  wanna put it into the argue. Let's say discuss or debate.
• 1:50:42
  If you don't have a position on things in life that are important, you've got no position.
• 1:50:49
  Unknown: Well, you can stand for something or fall for anything. Right? Exactly. Exactly. I mean, you know, there's there's there's a whole there's a whole show that goes in on just what you just talked about. I mean, that's a two hour long show right there, the the different levels of conversation and the escalation and reconciliation
• 1:51:07
  of of how that happens. You know? I'm just saying that there's there's there's a method here. There's a method. I'm just trying to hit the high spots. I thought... I think, Paul... I was I was gonna say say to you, Paul, by George, I think you've got it.
• 1:51:22
  Unknown: Okay. Yeah. Is George in the conversation?
• 1:51:25
  Get him in there. Yeah.
• 1:51:27
  Unknown: Yeah. And and... Yeah. So there's a skill set here. There's a skill set here, and and people need to learn.
• 1:51:35
  You know, there's there's there's this thing called hand to hand combat.
• 1:51:38
  Alright?
• 1:51:39
  Well, they call it the martial arts. Well, there's this other thing called, mind to mind combat. Alright? And this is what politicians are doing in their practice and skilled and trained liars,
• 1:51:50
  and you better start being able to prepare and defend yourself.
• 1:51:53
  Alright? That's your responsibility
• 1:51:56
  as an individual.
• 1:51:57
  Unknown: That's yours. That ain't mine. This is a better option, Darryl, far as I can see because if it's down to words
• 1:52:04
  then... And you are taking the sense that you're gonna ally yourself with truth, which is I would suggest the best option,
• 1:52:12
  then it's simply a matter of learning how to muster that effectively at the right time, which requires an awful lot of considerations and an awful lot of processing
• 1:52:20
  in the moment, right in the here and there, you have to be, you know, and you only get that by practicing it, by doing it, by being involved in it, by taking a risk. You have to take risks and you will get your bottom kick from time to time and that's okay, that's fine, that's absolutely fine, that's all comes with it. It's it's kind of toughening you up a little bit in that way. And as a starting point, I know this is very simplistic, but I do think it, you know, I remind myself of this is I have two ears
• 1:52:48
  and one mouth Yep. Which as I've said before doesn't really lend itself well to good radio shows does it? If everybody's listening but the idea would be that...
• 1:52:56
  Is anybody gonna speak? No, no, I'm
• 1:52:59
  waiting, I'm waiting, so it would be a little bit dull but generally in conversation
• 1:53:04
  and you would have found this anyway,
• 1:53:06
  if you really take on the role of the attentive listener,
• 1:53:09
  boy do you increase the consciousness in the person that's speaking because as soon as they become aware that you are seriously listening to everything they say,
• 1:53:19
  they begin to we all do, we all have an experience we go oh I better this is not casual, I better really be on my mark here because I don't want to I don't want get and I know people like that that are trained literally
• 1:53:32
  to do that, they go into sort of very serious base, you get all the body language because of it and they're listening keen and you go, right. So I start to talk slowly,
• 1:53:41
  I I I just do as a natural defense mechanism. I noticed it in myself, I go, calm down. Right? We don't... We're not we're not in one of those situations right now, we're in one of these situations and this is how I need to deal with it and let's take it forward and of course it's a different challenge but it's very listening
• 1:53:57
  is so powerful and it's the one quality I would say is supremely absent from political discourse.
• 1:54:04
  Unknown: If you listen well and you ask the right questions, they'll tell you what they want to hear. Now what I wanted to add here as it pertains to our information
• 1:54:14
  in this discussion about discussions
• 1:54:18
  is the reason I tell people to know this information cold.
• 1:54:23
  Daryl, you can't get out in one of these discussions that you have or you relate to us without knowing this stuff cold, and see, I know how good a student Daryl is, and I know how he's taken on this information and he's internalized it and that's why he's so damn defective.
• 1:54:42
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:54:44
  Yeah.
• 1:54:45
  It's all that. Well I mean mean, should be saying I mean, you get Sorry. Go ahead. I
• 1:54:50
  Unknown: mean, we get opportunities
• 1:54:52
  every day. Okay? We're all gonna hang up from this call.
• 1:54:55
  And over the course of the rest of this day, almost everybody listening or participating in this is gonna get an opportunity
• 1:55:02
  to go mind to mind combat with somebody. So
• 1:55:06
  three days ago, I'm in the checkout counter of the local grocery store,
• 1:55:10
  women my age in there.
• 1:55:15
  Somehow or other, the... We're in a conversation.
• 1:55:17
  It all starts out very pleasant.
• 1:55:20
  I make the comment that I was very happy about,
• 1:55:24
  you know, the legislation out of Alabama, Montgomery about the abortion law. She goes, well, she goes, I I I don't agree with that. She goes, I... So I... So right there, we we had a a separation. She's on one side. I'm on the other. It was all very relaxed, still very polite.
• 1:55:42
  And there was three checkout children
• 1:55:44
  ages from 18, I call them children. They were about 18 up through about 23
• 1:55:49
  standing there watching us, employees.
• 1:55:52
  And we're conversing. They're completely present in the whole conversation. I go, okay. Well, I better be good at this. I got an audience, and they're young ones.
• 1:56:00
  And
• 1:56:01
  so I said, well, I I believe that, you know, we can agree to disagree on this.
• 1:56:06
  And I was I was actually prepared to leave it at that, And she escalated, and I go, okay. She's gonna go... She goes, well, she goes, what what right does what right does
• 1:56:19
  you have the... What right do they have to tell us what to do with our bodies? And I said, well, the same right they have to do to tell you that you can't take drugs. I said, do you have a right to do that?
• 1:56:31
  And she kinda looked at me. She goes, well, that's my body.
• 1:56:34
  And I go...
• 1:56:35
  I said, well, that's that's the first mistake, ma'am. I said, because it's not your body. I said, it's in your body
• 1:56:42
  and it's
• 1:56:44
  your responsibility.
• 1:56:47
  And I said, that's what makes women different than men.
• 1:56:51
  Okay. You have
• 1:56:53
  the responsibility,
• 1:56:54
  but it's not your body.
• 1:56:57
  And I said so... And she she just kinda stood there with her mouth open. I was very polite. I was actually very responsible. I said, well, I have to go now. And I just left her with her mouth standing open
• 1:57:09
  and and the children watching.
• 1:57:11
  Yeah. Okay? But I didn't I didn't I didn't give ground.
• 1:57:16
  She she stated that that was her her body, and I said, no. It's not. I said, body is different than that other life inside of you.
• 1:57:24
  Unknown: Well, you did what they call in show business always leave them clapping, Daryl, and that's what we've gotta do here.
• 1:57:31
  And we'll be back tomorrow, and we can continue some of the themes we've hit on and started today. I wanted to thank Paul for spending a couple hours with us out of this week, and thank you so much for getting some of these concepts across for some of us to ponder on and maybe put into application, buddy. So we'll see you next next week. We'll see how the election turns out and the repercussions, and everybody that participated,
• 1:57:54
  Darryl especially, and Chris popped out. Michael joined us for a little bit and popped out, but we covered some good ground today. So thanks, and quite stimulating guys intellectually,
• 1:58:05
  emotionally, and we'll look forward to seeing you tomorrow. Have a great day.
• 1:58:10
  Unknown: Thank you. Hey, Paul. Hang around, man.
• 1:58:16
  Unknown: Ciao, Migos.
• 1:58:20
  Unknown: Hey, Roger.
• 1:58:29
  Unknown: Blasting the Voice of Freedom Worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
• 1:58:36
  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.