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- 0:04Jenny Oliver: Welcome to the, so that's why podcast where we unpack
- 0:07the science behind everyday questions.
- 0:09I'm Jen.
- 0:10Chris Smith: I'm Chris.
- 0:11Matt Edmundson: And I'm Matt.
- 0:12Jenny Oliver: Alright, here's something that I've never known the answer to.
- 0:16Why do some people turn tomato red when they exercise, while
- 0:20others barely break a sweat?
- 0:22I'm talking about that person, and let's be honest, it is often me who
- 0:27looks like they've been dunked in beet root juice after a park run
- 0:30while the person next to me finishes looking ready for a photo shoot.
- 0:35Matt Edmundson: Oh, you mean the difference between someone.
- 0:37You know who looks like you should probably go check on them.
- 0:40Mm. Uh, maybe call the doctor, uh, and the other person, which
- 0:43is like, did you even run?
- 0:45Uh, I'm like, you, Jen.
- 0:46I, I look radioactive like this kind of color, uh, after a workout.
- 0:51Jenny Oliver: Exactly.
- 0:52But here's what annoys me.
- 0:53Everyone says it's about fitness novel.
- 0:55You know, you're stuck going round when you get fitter.
- 0:57But my fitness has improved loads over the past five years especially,
- 1:01and I still turn bright red.
- 1:03Chris Smith: So you'll be delighted to know the real reasoning involves genetics,
- 1:08which are determining how your blood vessels respond to heat and exertion.
- 1:12So it's got virtually nothing to do with fitness.
- 1:14Jenny Oliver: Brilliant.
- 1:15Matt Edmundson: So my tomato face then is genetic.
- 1:19Is this what we're saying?
- 1:21Chris Smith: Exactly.
- 1:22So by the end of this episode, hopefully you'll understand why your face's response
- 1:27to exercise is programmed into your DNA and why some people might actually
- 1:31have an advantage with their lobster.
- 1:33Look, let's call it, in fact, I could feel myself getting Ridder,
- 1:35just talking about getting rid.
- 1:37Um, so exercise induced facial flushing, it affects about
- 1:4170% of people to some degree.
- 1:43So for some, it's enough to like ruin their confidence
- 1:46and motivation completely.
- 1:47Jenny Oliver: Guilty of that.
- 1:48I mean, there's nothing more humbling than catching your reflection
- 1:51in a car window and wondering if you need medical attention.
- 1:55Chris Smith: No, it's true.
- 1:55It, it is a problem.
- 1:56Uh, like yeah, it is a social problem.
- 1:58'cause you know, research has shown that people with pronounced exercise
- 2:01flushing are like 40% more likely to avoid like group fitness classes
- 2:07and more likely to exercise alone and like in quiet times in the gym,
- 2:11Matt Edmundson: which is a little bit sad, isn't it really?
- 2:12Mm-hmm.
- 2:12If you change your health routines.
- 2:16Um, because of something you can't actually control.
- 2:19Mm,
- 2:20Chris Smith: exactly.
- 2:21But as well as like usually being out of our control, like flushing intensity
- 2:27actually has virtually no correlation with cardiovascular fitness effort
- 2:30level, or how outta shape you are.
- 2:33Matt Edmundson: So all those years then I guess of thinking, I'll stop going red
- 2:37when I get fitter weren't actually true.
- 2:39Is this what we're saying?
- 2:40Chris Smith: It turns out that's the case.
- 2:42It just means your body is doing its own thing and that's totally okay.
- 2:47Jenny Oliver: Okay.
- 2:47So if it's not fitness, what's actually causing the differential response?
- 2:52I'm assuming thinking about it, it's got something to do with the blood
- 2:55vessels opening up in your skin, but why is the such variation between people?
- 3:01Chris Smith: Yeah, so you're spot on with the.
- 3:02Blood vessel link.
- 3:03So this is about blood vessel density and reactivity.
- 3:07So the densities of blood vessels in facial skin.
- 3:10It varies greatly from person to person, which is one of the drivers
- 3:13why there is this variation.
- 3:15Matt Edmundson: So some of us looked out and look good while exercising and the
- 3:20rest of us, me, maybe you Jen as well.
- 3:22Yeah, me.
- 3:22We got the sort of the human traffic light package
- 3:25Chris Smith: pretty much, and I can put myself in that category too.
- 3:28Go red running.
- 3:29Uh, but there is more to it.
- 3:30So research conducted in Australia, um, showed it's, it's also about
- 3:34reactivity, so it's how quickly your blood vessels are responding to triggers
- 3:39like heat and core temperature changes.
- 3:42Jenny Oliver: So we're talking about the temperature at which the
- 3:44blood vessels start to open up.
- 3:47Chris Smith: Exactly.
- 3:47Yeah.
- 3:48So some people's facial blood vessels react immediately even to very small
- 3:53increases in core body temperature.
- 3:55So in some people it could be responses that kick in when your
- 3:58body temperature increases by just a third of a degree Celsius.
- 4:01Jenny Oliver: Yeah, that's me.
- 4:01Matt Edmundson: Which feels like a third of a degree.
- 4:04Feels like a bit of an overreaction by my body, isn't it?
- 4:07Chris Smith: Yeah.
- 4:07Well, you think so, but like people with high, like this high facial
- 4:11vascular reactivity, they tend to have better overall or more efficient.
- 4:16Overall thermal regulation.
- 4:18Uh, so their bodies get ahead of this heat problem before it becomes too serious,
- 4:22which means better core temperature maintenance and overall overheating risk
- 4:27during prolonged activity is reduced.
- 4:30Jenny Oliver: Wait, so people like me actually might be better?
- 4:34Uh, temperature regulation
- 4:36Chris Smith: in many cases?
- 4:37Yeah.
- 4:38Yeah.
- 4:38So research shows this kind of pronounced facial flushing often correlates with
- 4:43better performance in hot temperatures.
- 4:45Oh, brilliant.
- 4:46Matt Edmundson: So that means actually becoming red faced is my superpower.
- 4:49Like I'm red face man.
- 4:50You know, stand back.
- 4:53Is it a bird?
- 4:53Is it a plane?
- 4:55It's red.
- 4:55No, it's red face man.
- 4:56It face.
- 4:58Chris Smith: Yeah.
- 4:58I'm not sure quite where to go with that, but, but yeah, why not?
- 5:02Uh, but yeah, some people have what is, what is known as
- 5:05distributed thermo regulation.
- 5:06You could be distributed thermo regulation, man.
- 5:09Jenny Oliver: Yeah.
- 5:10By face, man.
- 5:11Matt Edmundson: I'm, I'm thinking about the cape.
- 5:13Yeah.
- 5:13No capes.
- 5:14Chris Smith: It's, it's a lot of wording.
- 5:15Spot on the boat.
- 5:16Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 5:17But these people with distributed thermo regulation, they spread heat.
- 5:21Dissipation evenly.
- 5:23So that's why flushing doesn't happen to everyone.
- 5:25'cause those people have this kind of different genetic programming and it,
- 5:28but it ultimately achieves the same goal, whether you flush a lot or not, it's
- 5:32either localized or more spread out.
- 5:34Jenny Oliver: But presumably the concentrated facial response
- 5:37must have some trade offs.
- 5:39Chris Smith: But no, interestingly not because the facial flushing
- 5:42response is just more visible.
- 5:44So it might create kind of social discomfort, but from a physiological
- 5:48perspective, it's working perfectly and exactly the same as someone who
- 5:51has not got this visual flushing.
- 5:53Matt Edmundson: That's really interesting, isn't it?
- 5:54Mm-hmm.
- 5:55I, I'm curious though, right?
- 5:57How does this work across different people groups?
- 6:01Like are there predictable patterns?
- 6:03Maybe?
- 6:03Chris Smith: There are.
- 6:04So if we start with like, um, I think it's not like Northern Europeans.
- 6:09So people of Northern European descent, they're about 60% more likely to
- 6:14experience pronounced facial flushing than people from East Asia or you
- 6:19know, the Sub-Saharan African descent.
- 6:21But within any age group or demographic, there's still huge individual variation.
- 6:26Jenny Oliver: I mean, what about the gender, like
- 6:27differences between the genders?
- 6:29Because I definitely notice more women at like the park run
- 6:32looking redder than the men.
- 6:35Chris Smith: That might actually just be like a perception, to be honest,
- 6:38in reality, because like most studies or data will, they'll show that men
- 6:41and women have almost identical rates of exercise induced facial flushing.
- 6:46Although, you know, you've clearly never run near me if, if you, let's see, women,
- 6:49I'm read as a beater after about one K.
- 6:53Jenny Oliver: And what about the effect of age?
- 6:54Does, you know, do the vessels change?
- 6:56Does the elasticity of the vessels change over time?
- 7:00Chris Smith: Yeah, it's, that's such a great question
- 7:01because like facial flushing.
- 7:04In intensity decreases slightly with age, but not from fitness changes
- 7:08because that blood vessel elasticity does naturally decrease too.
- 7:13So people in their sixties typically experience about a third less dramatic
- 7:17flushing than they did in the twenties.
- 7:19Matt Edmundson: So what you're saying, Chris, is for me, there
- 7:22is light at the end of the tunnel.
- 7:23I just have to wait another 10 years to get to the light.
- 7:27Chris Smith: 10 years.
- 7:31Sorry about that.
- 7:32Um, but yeah, there's also recovery factor to consider.
- 7:35So fit individuals, like they return their normal skin color about
- 7:3950% faster after exercise stops.
- 7:42Jenny Oliver: I mean, that makes sense.
- 7:43Improve cardiovascular efficiency, which means that the heat
- 7:46leaves your body more easily.
- 7:48Chris Smith: Yep, exactly.
- 7:50And something I read that.
- 7:51Was interesting.
- 7:51What I found interesting was that athletes with this, the higher kind of facial
- 7:56vascular reactivity appear to maintain better performance in higher temperatures.
- 8:01So this red flushing effect might actually be a performance advantage in hot weather.
- 8:06So hot weather training.
- 8:07Why not?
- 8:09Jenny Oliver: So what can people actually do about it if it bothers
- 8:12them given that it's genetic?
- 8:14Matt Edmundson: Yeah.
- 8:15Because knowing it's genetic doesn't really help when you're trying to,
- 8:20you know, look like you're not having a medical emergency at the gym.
- 8:23Chris Smith: So this one is, is gonna sound like an obvious, but
- 8:26not many people actually do it.
- 8:27And this is pre-cooling.
- 8:29So pre-cooling is one of the most useful measures here, and you can apply cool damp
- 8:34cloths to your wrists and to your temples.
- 8:36For two to three minutes before exercise and that can reduce facial
- 8:40flushing intensity by about a quarter.
- 8:43Matt Edmundson: And do you just put that like on your, on your
- 8:44wrists and on your temples?
- 8:46Just there?
- 8:46Chris Smith: Yeah.
- 8:46So it's basically any of the pressure points, they're the,
- 8:48the main pressure points.
- 8:50So they're the areas that have blood vessels close to the surface and they
- 8:53connect directly to facial capillaries.
- 8:55So you're basically calling the main supply lines.
- 8:58Jenny Oliver: I can see it now.
- 8:59Me at the park run start line with ice packs strapped around my wrists.
- 9:04Matt Edmundson: It's a Kodak moment.
- 9:05Right.
- 9:05Uh, maybe put a bag of frozen peas in the temples as well.
- 9:09Right.
- 9:09But if it works, you know, I, who cares.
- 9:11Right.
- 9:11Um, is, is there anything else maybe that's gonna help us again?
- 9:16Chris Smith: I might sound like an obvious, but it's a really important one.
- 9:18It's hydration.
- 9:19Hydration definitely matters.
- 9:21So having a glass of cool water about 20 minutes before exercise, it really
- 9:26helps maintain better temperature regulation during that exercise.
- 9:29So, but your body needs that time to distribute that fluid before the,
- 9:33the kind of heat stress begins, so there's no point drinking it literally
- 9:36as you're going over that start line.
- 9:38Jenny Oliver: And what about what we wear the our clothing choices?
- 9:41Presumably if you wear a more breathable fabric around your neck, that might help.
- 9:46Chris Smith: Yeah, absolutely.
- 9:46And you mentioned the neck.
- 9:47So your neck contains major blood vessels that supply the face.
- 9:51So keeping that area cool can have a dramatic effect.
- 9:54So light colored moisture, wicking fabrics reduce overall heat load too.
- 9:58Matt Edmundson: So, okay.
- 9:59So we have to pre-call, which I think is one of the greatest
- 10:02phrases I've heard for a while.
- 10:03We have to hydrate, we have to wear the right clothes.
- 10:06So that's what we have to do.
- 10:08What should we not do?
- 10:09What should we avoid?
- 10:11Chris Smith: You always ask me what we've gotta avoid.
- 10:13I'm honestly like, you know, captain Sensible, Mr.
- 10:15Boy.
- 10:16I use the same one as always.
- 10:17Matt Edmundson: Yeah, you're the dad Chris.
- 10:18Chris Smith: You should try and avoid alcohol within 24 hours of intense
- 10:22exercise because alcohol dilates blood vessels and it makes flushing much more
- 10:27pronounced, but also hot showers or very hot showers immediately after exercise
- 10:33can again prolong the flushing response.
- 10:35Matt Edmundson: So basically everything that feels good after
- 10:38a run, like we did tough mud.
- 10:41And you know, as you cross the line, they give you a, a a is a pint
- 10:45of cider or something like that.
- 10:46So that celebratory drink, that scolding hot shower, they're what we shouldn't do.
- 10:52Chris Smith: Now you all notice I mentioned don't drink before the run.
- 10:55Um.
- 10:55I can't really comment on after the run, but I think, you know,
- 10:57you've earned it by that point.
- 10:59So all, I think all bets are off, but yet pretty much in terms of,
- 11:02you know, avoiding, avoiding heat, the hot shower thing straight after.
- 11:06But it's also, it's just so important to remember that for most people, the
- 11:10flushy thing is completely harmless and it indicates your, your thermo
- 11:13regulation system, your body's heat management is working properly.
- 11:17Jenny Oliver: But is there a time when we should actually be concerned
- 11:20about a red face and exercise?
- 11:22Chris Smith: So I think if that flushing is accompanied by other symptoms, so
- 11:26maybe dizziness, nausea, confusion, or it doesn't resolve itself to go
- 11:30back to normal within like 30 minutes, that's the time to maybe just check.
- 11:34You haven't got heat exhaustion.
- 11:37'cause if you have, you might need medical attention.
- 11:41Jenny Oliver: So the genetic factors we've mentioned before that are controlling
- 11:44the facial flushing, do they influence other physiological responses too?
- 11:48Chris Smith: Yeah, great question.
- 11:49So people with high vascular reactivity, they often have
- 11:52similar responses in other areas.
- 11:54So those people tend to blush more easily during emotional responses.
- 11:58I feel myself blushing now.
- 11:59Jenny Oliver: I know.
- 11:59Yeah, me too.
- 12:00Chris Smith: Um, but they're also more sensitive to, you know, hot foods
- 12:03like, you know, spicy foods and just temperature change more generally.
- 12:08Matt Edmundson: Okay, so those of us who do turn red during exercise,
- 12:11basically we're also human mood rings.
- 12:14Jenny Oliver: Yeah, that's not far off the mark.
- 12:15I think that's my experience.
- 12:17Chris Smith: That's it.
- 12:17But, but again, interestingly, people with this responsive vascular systems,
- 12:22they've often got better cardiovascular adaptation to exercise over time.
- 12:27Matt Edmundson: What do you mean better?
- 12:28Chris Smith: I know that sounded quite technical, didn't it?
- 12:30It did.
- 12:30Um, so what it means is their hearts become more efficient
- 12:34more quickly with training.
- 12:36So they often see their heart rate and blood pressure, um, sorry,
- 12:39their resting heart rate and blood pressure reductions faster than
- 12:44people with less responsive systems.
- 12:46Jenny Oliver: So the same genetic programming that's making us look
- 12:49like tomatoes is actually supporting.
- 12:53The long-term cardiovascular adaptation.
- 12:55Chris Smith: Exactly, yeah.
- 12:56Your face of flushing is just one visible sign of a complex system
- 13:00that's working well, even if it feels a bit embarrassing at the moment.
- 13:04Jenny Oliver: Right.
- 13:04So when.
- 13:05So some people turn red during exercise while others barely break a sweat because
- 13:11Chris Smith: it's because of genetic differences in facial blood,
- 13:15vessel density, and reactivity.
- 13:17And it's so, it's got virtually nothing to do with fitness level
- 13:20and everything to do with how your cooling system is programmed.
- 13:24Matt Edmundson: Great.
- 13:24So the next time someone comes up to me and tells me that I'll stop going red
- 13:28when I actually get fitter, I can tell them scientifically to naff off, uh,
- 13:33because it's just a bit of nonsense.
- 13:35It's maybe just my superior thermo regulation system in action.
- 13:41Jenny Oliver: So that's why your face turns red or an exercise.
- 13:44It's not a sign of being outta shape view.
- 13:47It's a sign that your temperature control system is working exactly as designed.
- 13:52Chris Smith: Yeah, absolutely.
- 13:53So hopefully this explanation helps.
- 13:56Jenny Oliver: So that's it for this week.
- 13:57Make sure you hit that subscribe button as we are gonna be unpacking the science
- 14:02behind everyday questions each week.
- 14:05And tell us in the comments what questions you'd like us to explore.
- 14:08Thanks for geeking out with us, but for now, that's it from me.
- 14:12Matt Edmundson: That's it from me,
- 14:13Chris Smith: and that's it from me.
- 14:14Jenny Oliver: Bye.