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INTERVIEW: Zuri Hall On Saying Goodbye To Access Hollywood, Career Journey, Dating Life, Healthy Boundaries + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Hold up.
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  Speaker 2: Every day I wake up.
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  Speaker 3: Wake your ass up.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: You all finished or you all done?
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  Speaker 3: Morning, everybody.
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  Speaker 4: It's DJ Envy, Just Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God. We are
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  Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club. Lawla Rose is here as well. We
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  Speaker 4: got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 3: She's back, ladies and gentlemen, Zuri Hall.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome.
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  Speaker 5: Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. How you feeling, pretty lady? I
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  Speaker 1: feel good. Thank you so much. Right back at you, gorgeous.
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  Speaker 1: It's been good.
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  Speaker 6: I got in.
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  Speaker 5: I was at the U.S. Open a few days ago,
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  Speaker 5: which is really fun. Been doing some press, talking pop culture, Hollywood,
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  Speaker 5: Emmys are around the corner, and It feels good to
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  Speaker 5: be in New York.
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  Speaker 1: I'm spending more time out here lately.
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  Speaker 7: Since you mentioned the U.S.
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  Speaker 4: Open, I just wanted to ask you, how do you
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  Speaker 4: feel about the creators going crazy in the U.S.
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  Speaker 3: Open?
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  Speaker 7: And the refs having to say, please sit down. Please
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  Speaker 7: turn off your cameras.
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  Speaker 3: The weed.
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  Speaker 1: Please stop the flash. The weed. All the things.
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  Speaker 3: The weed.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, the weed can be anybody, though.
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  Speaker 1: Technically, it's probably not just the influencers. You don't feel
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  Speaker 1: like the super, super tennis people went and smoked at
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  Speaker 1: the U.S.
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  Speaker 3: Open?
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  Speaker 6: I would assume that anybody, obviously, if.
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  Speaker 7: They have a little.
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  Speaker 3: It's legal.
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  Speaker 1: It's legal.
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  Speaker 7: It's a little smoke break.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like... The two, like, tennis watchers, they're, like,
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  Speaker 1: they drunk, but they, like, in it.
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  Speaker 8: Like, they not.
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  Speaker 6: Locked in, yeah, it's the honey deuces.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the honey deuces and the vibes.
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  Speaker 5: I think there is a conversation that needs to be had.
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  Speaker 6: But, like, the flash photography, et cetera, it's all a
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  Speaker 6: part of the fact that the U.S.
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  Speaker 5: Open at this point, it really is, like, a sports
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  Speaker 5: take on fashion week. Like, you've got Anna Wintour in
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  Speaker 5: the box, you know, you've got A-list celebrities rubbing shoulders.
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  Speaker 5: It's turned into this, like, pop culture phenomenon. So I
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  Speaker 5: think that comes with the territory. You want influencers there
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  Speaker 5: because they're moving the needle in a different way. They're
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  Speaker 5: getting new eyeballs on the sport, which I think is great.
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  Speaker 5: But you also do have to respect the sport. Like,
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  Speaker 5: it's an incredibly impressive one. There is a certain rule
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  Speaker 5: or a set of etiquette rules in the world of tennis.
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  Speaker 1: And you can't show up into somebody's house and then
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  Speaker 1: do what you want to do.
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  Speaker 8: They don't know we?
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  Speaker 3: Get them to play us. I mean, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: they can, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they get tested.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Like they can do it in any other sport. But
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  Speaker 8: do you feel like it's more about the culture and,
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  Speaker 8: you know, like the whole influencer thing than it is
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  Speaker 8: about the sport, though?
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  Speaker 5: I think sometimes influencers can make it more about that, right?
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  Speaker 5: So when you're looking at it from their perspective, you're
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  Speaker 5: getting the cute pics. And look, I posted my cute
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  Speaker 5: little picture in the suite, too. So I'm speaking as somebody.
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  Speaker 6: But you were still very much into the games.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: The match was incredible.
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  Speaker 6: You watch the match.
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  Speaker 5: You don't move when they're playing, right? Even when it
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  Speaker 5: came time to, like, get up, go to the suite,
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  Speaker 5: get food, get a drink. You can't do that while
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  Speaker 5: they're playing. Everyone is frozen, locked in their seats. As
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  Speaker 5: soon as they stop down, chaos. Get your drink, get
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  Speaker 5: your whatever, smoke your weed, whatever you're going to do,
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  Speaker 5: and then go back to your seat.
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  Speaker 9: I'm so glad football is back so y'all can stop
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  Speaker 9: acting like y'all care about tennis.
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  Speaker 2: Lord have mercy. Thank God football is back.
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  Speaker 1: Tennis is incredible. It's fine. But I was going to ask,
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  Speaker 1: how did the U.S.
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  Speaker 7: Open get there?
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  Speaker 4: Because out of all the sports, I think that's the
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  Speaker 4: only sport.
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  Speaker 3: When did Zori become the tennis champion?
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  Speaker 5: I'm just asking her opinion.
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  Speaker 4: I'm asking her when she thought it became part of
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  Speaker 4: pop culture. Because you just mentioned that people come there,
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  Speaker 4: it's a fashion show, Anna Wintour was there. But you
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  Speaker 4: don't see that in any other sport. You don't look
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  Speaker 4: to see what people are wearing.
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  Speaker 7: At the Knicks game.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Not like U.S. Open.
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  Speaker 5: U.S.
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  Speaker 3: Open has a blue rug to walk on. What do
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  Speaker 3: you think courtside is for?
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  Speaker 7: Not like U.S.
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  Speaker 4: Open where you're standing up and they have the blue carpet.
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  Speaker 3: It's totally different.
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  Speaker 5: There is a blue carpet, but I do think it's
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  Speaker 5: fashion in both spaces. Like the courtside fits, that is
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  Speaker 5: the moment. NBA games, et cetera.
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  Speaker 6: Even like football now, honestly, I think like with.
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  Speaker 5: wag culture with, you know, Sierra and Russ and Taylor
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  Speaker 5: and Travis and like all these people who are coming
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  Speaker 5: into this intersection of sports and entertainment, right? I think
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  Speaker 5: there's just more to watch than the game.
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  Speaker 1: And so people are.
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  Speaker 5: Looking at this as a moment to kind of like
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  Speaker 5: pop out, show off the fits, you know, like have
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  Speaker 5: an entire... What would you call it? Not a lifestyle,
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  Speaker 5: but have an entire, you know, like cultural moment around
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  Speaker 5: the sport. Like whether you watch it or not, you
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  Speaker 5: want to be cute. You want to have your drinks.
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  Speaker 5: You want to say I was there. So I do
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  Speaker 5: think that the U.S. Open is a very specific kind.
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  Speaker 5: Like it's kind of giving, ooh, what's the word I
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  Speaker 5: want to say?
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  Speaker 6: There's a certain level of.
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  Speaker 1: Elitism?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Potentially.
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  Speaker 6: Some might argue that.
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  Speaker 5: But like elevated sort of high fashion, maybe traditionally exclusivity.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: But I think that basketball and football have always had that.
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  Speaker 5: I think we never expected in tennis here.
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  Speaker 6: And now we're starting to see that, too.
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  Speaker 5: So I low key feel like tennis is catching up
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  Speaker 5: to like the basketball and football.
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  Speaker 8: Of it all.
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  Speaker 9: Do you remember the Zuri who was sending like cold
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  Speaker 9: emails trying to get.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody to give her an opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: Who told you about this? Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 5: I sometimes go back to those old emails and read
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  Speaker 5: them just to look at all of the rejection and
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  Speaker 5: remind myself.
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  Speaker 1: How far I've come.
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  Speaker 5: Because even now, I get no's all the time. But
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  Speaker 5: I remember when it was only no's, and then I
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  Speaker 5: remind myself one yes. And then I look back at
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  Speaker 5: that first 2011 email where it was like, actually, you
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  Speaker 5: can come in and meet with us for 20 minutes.
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  Speaker 1: And then that moved the needle. It took me to
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  Speaker 1: the next thing, took me to the next thing. But yeah.
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  Speaker 8: How did those nose shape how you are now?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I got you.
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  Speaker 8: How did the nose shape how you are now? Because
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  Speaker 8: you didn't get a bunch of nose, like infinite nose.
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  Speaker 8: to tear you away from what you want to do.
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  Speaker 1: Totally.
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  Speaker 8: Or the other way, it can make you go harder.
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  Speaker 8: How in that moment?
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  Speaker 5: I think because with my father, I think we might
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  Speaker 5: have talked about this a little bit, but he always
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  Speaker 5: raised me with, I say, a healthy level of delusion
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  Speaker 5: where anything is possible.
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  Speaker 2: I told her this yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Wait, in what way? He told me I was delusional.
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  Speaker 1: But that's good. You got to be.
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  Speaker 10: But I just didn't know anything coming from him that
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  Speaker 10: could be slightly positive. You're just like, what's the catch?
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  Speaker 1: Why are we saying it? Tell me more. Where is
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  Speaker 1: this coming from?
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  Speaker 10: I think that you do need that because you posted
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  Speaker 10: a video talking about building your life as a ladder
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  Speaker 10: and why people shouldn't do that. And what she's talking
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  Speaker 10: about is like, you get on one step of that
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  Speaker 10: ladder and something don't work out. You still got to
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  Speaker 10: be delusional enough to know that, like, I can get
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  Speaker 10: to the top of the ladder because this random other
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  Speaker 10: person did it.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 6: That's exactly it.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I think that delusion is when I hear a no,
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  Speaker 5: or especially back in the early days, it was just
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  Speaker 5: not yet or not this way, not this door. And
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  Speaker 5: so I never took it personally.
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  Speaker 1: It was like.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, you don't know me enough yet to know that
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to crush this. Oh, you don't understand how
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  Speaker 5: I work or how I move. So that has nothing
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  Speaker 5: to do with me. That has to do with the
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  Speaker 5: fact that you don't know. You don't know what you're
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  Speaker 5: passing on. You don't know what you're missing out on.
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  Speaker 5: So I'll go get it somewhere else, and then eventually
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  Speaker 5: you'll see what you missed out on.
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  Speaker 9: What did Zuri that was trying to get on have
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  Speaker 9: that successful Zuri sometimes has to fight to keep?
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  Speaker 1: Whoa. Say that one more time.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 9: What did the Zuri that was trying to get on
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  Speaker 9: have that successful Zuri sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Has to fight to keep? Oh, that's good, Char. I think....
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  Speaker 5: She sometimes she had to fight to keep. And now
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  Speaker 5: I think I'm doing a pretty good job of it.
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  Speaker 5: Remembering this isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't the end all be all.
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  Speaker 5: Like, you know, as much as I love my career
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  Speaker 5: and for a long time to Lauren's point, I built
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  Speaker 5: it like a ladder. I've talked about that. This isn't
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  Speaker 5: the most important thing in my life. And that's saying
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  Speaker 5: a lot because it's.
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  Speaker 1: One of the most important things in my life.
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  Speaker 5: But being from Ohio, growing up in Toledo, thank God
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  Speaker 5: my parents are still here and they're so present and
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  Speaker 5: active in my life.
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  Speaker 6: I've got a niece.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a nephew. Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: There's just so much more that matters. And for a
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  Speaker 5: long time, Scrappy Zuri, who was just trying to get it,
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  Speaker 5: was super ambitious. And it was only work. I missed
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  Speaker 5: out on so many things. I missed one of my
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  Speaker 5: At the time, she was a good friend. Now one
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  Speaker 5: of my best friends' weddings. And I always, that still
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  Speaker 5: breaks my heart to think about. But it was at
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  Speaker 5: a time in my life where I was afraid to
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  Speaker 5: ask for a vacation day. I was afraid to be like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: this important thing in my life is happening.
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  Speaker 1: I need to be there.
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  Speaker 5: And quite frankly, I don't know if I even understood
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  Speaker 5: how important those things were.
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  Speaker 1: At that time, right?
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  Speaker 6: And that's just not the case anymore.
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  Speaker 5: So I would say like the Zuri who was like
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  Speaker 5: this or nothing else, like sometimes.
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  Speaker 6: I have to remember that, I think. I kind of
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  Speaker 6: just went a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit all over the place with that. Get Zuri some
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  Speaker 2: more liquor. I want to hear Zuri talk.
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  Speaker 3: No!
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  Speaker 1: I was just waiting.
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  Speaker 3: You took the first one? Okay, wait.
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  Speaker 1: So that's, no wait. Oh, you took it already.
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  Speaker 3: I'm late?
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  Speaker 8: She is.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on. I'm going to pour it.
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  Speaker 2: She was here last time. She was like in and out.
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  Speaker 2: We get to talk to Zuri today.
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  Speaker 6: All right, let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: Are you doing things for Fashion Week?
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  Speaker 7: I am not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting out of here.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you so much, love.
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  Speaker 8: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 6: I fly out later today, back to L.A., How much
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  Speaker 6: of my business can I tell?
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  Speaker 1: I think this is important.
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  Speaker 8: Tell us everything.
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  Speaker 3: All of it.
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  Speaker 5: The reason normally I would be covering the Emmys on Monday,
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  Speaker 5: but I'm getting surgery. And I actually feel very strongly
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  Speaker 5: about talking about this. I'm getting a fibroid removed.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: And the reason that I have to do it then
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  Speaker 5: is this is the only time they could squeeze me
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  Speaker 5: in in the next couple of months. And I want
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  Speaker 5: to get it done before award season really kicks off.
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  Speaker 5: with the Globes in January, so I have time to recover.
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  Speaker 5: Is this your first time dealing with the Farbrook?
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  Speaker 7: How long is recovery time?
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  Speaker 5: Mine is a minimally invasive version of it with robotic assistance.
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  Speaker 5: So hopefully, I'm trying to get on a flight to
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  Speaker 5: Ohio to finish my recovery three days after. We're going
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  Speaker 5: to see if that's overly ambitious. I hope my surgeon's
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  Speaker 5: not listening. I think they told me a week, a
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  Speaker 5: week before I should get on the plane. Um, but
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  Speaker 5: I think it'll be like a week or so of
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  Speaker 5: just like rest, et cetera. But I have friends who
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  Speaker 5: have done it and they've had multiple fibroids removed and
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  Speaker 5: they were out. Like it was one of my friends
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  Speaker 5: is going through right now. And she said, it's been
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  Speaker 5: pretty brutal. Um, I haven't traditionally had them, but I
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  Speaker 5: did egg freezing. And so I did four rounds and
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  Speaker 5: a lot of estrogen, a lot of hormones. And I
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  Speaker 5: do kind of wonder if that's where it came from.
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  Speaker 7: Was it painful? Did they feel it from the pain?
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  Speaker 1: No, I have no pain.
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  Speaker 5: I just, yeah, when I started the egg freezing journey,
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  Speaker 5: I just got really serious about my health period. So
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  Speaker 5: reproductive health, fertility preservation. And so, you know, you're doing
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  Speaker 5: these ultrasounds. And during one of the ultrasounds, probably my
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  Speaker 5: third or fourth round, for the first time, they were like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you have a fibroid, right?
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, what? No, I've never had one
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  Speaker 1: of those. Like, what does that mean?
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  Speaker 6: And they were like, they're super common, really normal, especially
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  Speaker 6: in black women.
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  Speaker 5: They affect us disproportionately. Like 80%.
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  Speaker 1: Like up to 80% of black women. Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Up to 80% by the age of 50 are going
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  Speaker 5: to deal with at least one fibroid in their life.
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  Speaker 5: And so it was new for me, but they said
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  Speaker 5: nothing to worry about, whatever. But I do want to
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  Speaker 5: have kids and I'm excited to, you know, hopefully carry
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  Speaker 5: as many naturally.
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  Speaker 6: As I can.
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  Speaker 1: And where it's located, they're like, yeah, you need to
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  Speaker 1: just get that out of there.
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  Speaker 5: How does that impact your reproductive journey?
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  Speaker 2: Or does it? I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Fibro removal, for some women, unfortunately, it seriously impacts your
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  Speaker 5: reproductive journey to the point some women can't carry.
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  Speaker 1: Some women have.
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  Speaker 5: Hysterectomies where there's a complete removal because of the fibroids.
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  Speaker 6: Scarring is a risk also.
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  Speaker 5: And then when you have these fibroids, depending on where
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  Speaker 5: they're located in your uterus, it can harm or I
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  Speaker 5: guess you would say deter implantation, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: For a fetus.
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  Speaker 5: Now, I've gone from US Open expert to OBGYN. Y'all,
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  Speaker 5: this is not medical advice for the record. I feel
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  Speaker 5: like I need to say that. It's your personal experience. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's just my personal experience, but it can definitely deter implantation,
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  Speaker 5: and that's what you need to take a healthy baby
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  Speaker 5: nine months to term.
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  Speaker 10: How long did it take you before you found your
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  Speaker 10: doctor that like you were comfortable with with doing the
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  Speaker 10: fibroid surgery?
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  Speaker 1: Because that's another issue for some women. It is. It's hard.
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  Speaker 5: I had a couple of really good recommendations. I was
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  Speaker 5: on a time clock. So there was, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to get it done a certain amount of time.
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  Speaker 5: So that closed the window on some options. But I'm
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  Speaker 5: really excited about the surgeon that I have because he
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  Speaker 5: was highly recommended.
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  Speaker 1: He knows his stuff.
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  Speaker 6: He's worked with people that I know who are like.
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  Speaker 1: He was great.
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  Speaker 5: Um, and so that helps to have a friend who
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  Speaker 5: went through it.
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  Speaker 6: Um, but it's really hard even for me, like what
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  Speaker 6: I was researching is overwhelming.
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  Speaker 5: You're going off of a zoom consultation or a 20
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  Speaker 5: minute in person, sit down. And then it's like, I'm
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  Speaker 5: offering up the most intimate, literally and figuratively part of
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  Speaker 5: me and like trusting that you're going to do a
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  Speaker 5: good enough job that you'll be fine after.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be fine.
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  Speaker 5: And the things that I want are the things that
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to be able to have. So, um, Y'all
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  Speaker 5: can't want me on the other side, but we gonna
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  Speaker 5: knock this out in a week.
• 12:16
  Speaker 8: But those robotic surgeries, they have proved to be, like,
• 12:21
  Speaker 8: a lot more efficient. Your scarring, you won't have like
• 12:24
  Speaker 8: a bunch of scarring.
• 12:25
  Speaker 6: It's really good.
• 12:26
  Speaker 8: I had a robotic surgery as well.
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: Did you?
• 12:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, when I had my, I had my gallbladder removed.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 12:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's not even what I went there for.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: Wait, who would you go there for? I just, no,
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't.
• 12:36
  Speaker 8: I go there for my eyes, dummy.
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
• 12:39
  Speaker 8: I went there because my eye, I just kept throwing
• 12:41
  Speaker 8: up like real, real crazy. Honestly, I thought I was pregnant, honestly,
• 12:45
  Speaker 8: but no, that wasn't even it. They said I had
• 12:47
  Speaker 8: gallstones and then they thought about removing the gallstones and
• 12:50
  Speaker 8: then I had two more doctors come in and say,
• 12:51
  Speaker 8: we're just going to remove the gallbladder. And I was like, well,
• 12:54
  Speaker 8: what about my other one? And it was like, no,
• 12:56
  Speaker 8: you only have one. I was like, wow, I didn't
• 12:58
  Speaker 8: know that. So, yeah.
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: Wait, how many?
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: We only have one gallbladder. Oh, you thought you had multiple?
• 13:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought it was like two.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 13:04
  Speaker 8: One on each side. It was like, no. Yeah, and
• 13:06
  Speaker 8: I was like, oh, okay, just kidding. But yeah, they
• 13:10
  Speaker 8: removed the gallbladder and they used the microscopic, like the
• 13:13
  Speaker 8: robotic surgery.
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly it.
• 13:15
  Speaker 8: And you can barely see incisions. My recovery was a
• 13:18
  Speaker 8: lot quicker. I know it's very.
• 13:20
  Speaker 5: Different from five-point surgery, but it was robotic surgery.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he's telling me.
• 13:24
  Speaker 6: Minimally invasive, tiny incisions. Because that's what I'm nervous about, honestly.
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: And it's quick.
• 13:27
  Speaker 6: So superficial.
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: With the diarrhea afterwards that you experience often.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: Excuse me?
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: Everybody knows. They see you running out of here.
• 13:34
  Speaker 8: No, Zuri did not know nothing about this.
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, my fault.
• 13:37
  Speaker 6: I do now, but that's okay because that's, you know,
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: safe space.
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: But I don't have diarrhea today. Okay, well, I love that.
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: She has to move booty every.
• 13:46
  Speaker 7: Once in a while.
• 13:47
  Speaker 9: You know, Zuri, you know, once I heard you say,
• 13:48
  Speaker 9: you said you didn't believe in backup plans.
• 13:51
  Speaker 7: Do you still believe that?
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: Ooh, um, do I still believe that? Backup plans.
• 13:59
  Speaker 5: I guess I have to say no, I don't believe
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: it because even egg freezing is technically, I would categorize
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: it as a backup plan, right? Because the goal up
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: until a certain age, at least for me, was to
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: get pregnant naturally and egg freezing was a backup plan.
• 14:15
  Speaker 6: I think career-wise, professionally... Yes, I still believe that.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Like, it's all in.
• 14:19
  Speaker 6: It's all or nothing.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Like, this is what I'm doing.
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: And in the downtime when I'm not doing it, it's
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: just trying to figure out how to get back to
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: wherever I'm trying to go. But personally, yeah, I believe
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: in backup plans when it comes to this fertility.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: You know what's so crazy?
• 14:33
  Speaker 10: Before you asked that, I was going to ask you,
• 14:35
  Speaker 10: at what point did you stop kind of believing in
• 14:38
  Speaker 10: the backup plan for your personal life because you said
• 14:39
  Speaker 10: you froze your eggs? Because it's been something that, like,
• 14:41
  Speaker 10: I think a lot of career, you were so focused
• 14:43
  Speaker 10: on career.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:44
  Speaker 10: And you have to think about, okay, at what time does...
• 14:47
  Speaker 10: my real life kicking and how's that going to work
• 14:50
  Speaker 10: out for me? But it seems like you've made the
• 14:52
  Speaker 10: switch where you're like, no, I'm prioritizing my real life.
• 14:54
  Speaker 10: When did that switch for you?
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: That's exactly it. Like what happened?
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: I love that question. I, I think I got to
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: this point in my life where, you know, I talk
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: about this ladder theory and how we should be building
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: like pillars, right?
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Instead.
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: So you have this house. The foundation for me is
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: my faith because sometimes, all the pillars come crashing down
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: at once.
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: And it's like, okay, then what? But at least you
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: still have this firm foundation.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: I got to this point where I had nothing to
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: show for my life outside of my professional accomplishments. So
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: when the career stuff imploded or I got hit with
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: a plot twist or whatever it was, I had nothing
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: to show. Like I had, you know, and so much
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: of my identity was wrapped up in what I was
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: achieving or accomplishing. And I was like, this is a
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: crappy way to live. And also even sometimes at my
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: highest moments, I'm talking like, Oscars, Grammys, Golden Globes, co-hosting
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: Fashion Police with Joan Rivers, all these different things. I
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: still have moments of misery. Like, internally, I felt a void.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: I felt a lack of fulfillment because I was always
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: chasing the next high. Like, it was incredible when I
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: was on set. It was incredible when that show premiered.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: But the in-between, there was nothing because I hadn't built
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: up anything else. And I was like, I just don't
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: want to live this way because it's giving too much
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: control to the people in positions of power in this country.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: landscape that I'm choosing to participate in. So I got
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: to figure out how to build up these other pillars.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: And I also realized, you know, at the end of
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: the day, it's the folks in Ohio, it's my family,
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: it's my friends, it's my loved ones who are going
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: to be here throughout this entire journey. Like half the
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: people that I worked with at any given moment, would
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: they be.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: At my wedding? Would they be at my funeral? You know,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: not to go dark.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: And the answer was probably not. And so why would
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: I give that much energy to these people? God bless them,
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: but Give them more than I'm giving the people who
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: are rocking with me, high or low, good or bad.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I like that. Go ahead.
• 16:47
  Speaker 10: What do you think your need for accomplishment, like now
• 16:50
  Speaker 10: that you're in this space where you can really remove
• 16:52
  Speaker 10: yourself from your accomplishments, where do you think your need
• 16:54
  Speaker 10: for accomplishing comes from? Is it you really want to
• 16:57
  Speaker 10: accomplish or is it a fulfillment of something else that
• 17:00
  Speaker 10: you were trying to figure out?
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's both.
• 17:03
  Speaker 8: Dr.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: LaRosa.
• 17:04
  Speaker 8: It's giving therapists.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I love it. She needs a role. She needs to
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: be on somebody's couch. I love it.
• 17:11
  Speaker 8: You have siblings?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I do have two brothers. I'm the oldest. Okay. So
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: she gets it. I identify.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: Okay. Okay.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Oldest? Yes.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Oldest girl is like a whole thing.
• 17:20
  Speaker 8: I have one brother and a little sister.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: So I'm the middle child.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: I sometimes joke it's a trauma response, but low-key it
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: kind of is a bit of a trauma response.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I am wildly ambitious.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: I've been that way since I was young, since before
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: I had ideas about what success did.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Or didn't mean.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: But, yeah, I think when you're shy like I was
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: growing up and you don't feel seen in certain spaces,
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: accomplishment was a way to be seen.
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: It was a way for people to pay attention to me.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm not.
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: Brave enough or outgoing enough.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: At this time to go up and talk to you
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: and just be precocious, you know, off record.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: But when you put a mic in front of me or.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: It's a stage play and it's action or it's go
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: or the curtain opens, it forced me to take up
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: space in a way that I knew I was capable of,
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: but not wired to just do day.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: In and day out.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: And so that kind of fed me in, I think,
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: a really genuine way.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: But as I.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: Started to excel and achieve, Probably.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Somewhere along the way, early on, I got wrapped up
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: in this idea of, oh, this is the only thing
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: that makes me worthy.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: Of attention or your presence.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: Or your friendship or your romantic interest. You know, like
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: so much of the story I told myself for a
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: long time was this is why anyone engages with me.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: No, not even deserve.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: Or if I didn't have this. I wouldn't get this.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't engage. You know what I mean?
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: It wasn't from a place of, like, entitlement or arrogance.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: It was a place of insecurity, of, like, I got
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: to do all this to get the attention feel superficial.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, to be seen.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Where did you get the courage not to chase anymore?
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Because you had to get to a point where you said,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I don't need to chase this anymore.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Because that's the hardest point with anybody in this business, right?
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: They chase so much.
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: And they look back and they're like, damn, I miss
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: so much as well. When did you get that courage?
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: I think when I realized how much I was missing, right?
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: Like the fact that I'll never have pictures at my
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: best friend's wedding, that's going to stick with me. And
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: I try to make up for it in the ways
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: that I can. And I'll hop the flight in a heartbeat.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: Now she has a beautiful daughter and incredible husband, like,
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: you know, but like that sticks with you. So you
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: have just enough of those moments of like, I don't
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: want to go through life like that.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: And I think.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: After you serve your time and you pay your dues enough,
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: it's like, I don't have anything left to prove.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Like, I just really don't.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: You know, like, I have so many more goals for myself.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: I'm excited to hit as many of them as God
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: allows and provides for.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: But I've done what I needed to do for the
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: record to stay. Zuri was ambitious. She was talented. She
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: did things right.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: And so.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: I just I have a piece about proving myself. And
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: I think the more like the self-worth kind of like
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: ramped up, it's like I just ain't got nothing to
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: prove anymore.
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: So you made me think about a bunch of stuff,
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: but like Access Hollywood, right? When something you've attached part
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: of your identity to ends, right? How do you separate
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: this show is over from what does this say about me?
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: I think because I've already detached from who I am
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: being what I do. It's the end of an era.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: I have appreciated it. It's been 11-ish years, 12 years
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: at E! News and Access Hollywood.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: All good things come to an end.
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: It's bittersweet.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: The show's been on air for 30 years. But I'm
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: excited for what's to come. Our last show is this week, actually.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: It's this Thursday. We'll film it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: And it's kind of wild to look at Friday and
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: be like, I'm going to just do what I want
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: to do. I'm going to just live my life. But
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: I'm so excited about that. I'm so excited to just
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: look at the unknown.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: The team is working. The contracts are being negotiated. Stones
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: are in the fire.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: But I'm excited to look at this blank page for
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: the end of 2026 and keep it blank on purpose.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: I just want to be and let God surprise me
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: and see what existing calls in.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: Is there any grief attached to Access Hollywood ending that
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: surprised you a little bit?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Not really.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: I shed a few tears this past Friday.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Like right before I got on the plane to come
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: to New York, I filmed my last show up at
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: the Globe, up at Universal Studios. And sometimes when you're
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: doing something every day, you forget how special it is.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: And like Lil Z and Toledo, seven years old. Like
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: Universal Studios, they make the biggest films and shows that
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: I've seen. And I'm just there every day hosting the show. Like,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: all right, guys, that's it from Universal Studios Hollywood until
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: next time.
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: The world is seeing your face.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: And then to say it for the last time and know, like,
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: that's it. So as soon as we wrapped, I did
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: finally let myself feel it. And, yeah, it's bittersweet, but
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: I do feel like it's time. I'm excited for what
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: is to come because also you get comfortable.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Like, if you do.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Something long enough and you can kind of do it
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: without thinking too hard about it and you love it, like,
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: I genuinely loved it, Like, you'll stay there. And I
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: think it feels like God is just divinely clearing the table.
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: Like, one full sweep. That's what I heard in your
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: last answer. You said, you mentioned, I think, I don't
• 22:31
  Speaker 10: know if you said God or your spirituality, something. I
• 22:33
  Speaker 10: was like, oh, it's the God piece of it. Like,
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: you've gotten to a point where you're just letting God
• 22:36
  Speaker 10: do what he do.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Letting him do what he does. That's exactly it.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: Because, like, he's never let me down.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: And, like, there's so many things that I've wanted that
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: I didn't get and I was mad about.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: And then I saw the why later, right? Like, I
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: just trust his process.
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: I feel like you've always been like that, though.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: You think so?
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: I think I used to be way more stubborn about, like,
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: I used to beat a door down.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Like, I used to stick around longer.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: Some might argue in other areas of my life.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: That's still the case.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: But I used to stick around longer than the circumstances justified.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: It was like, no, I want to make this work.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: MTV, you is out.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: You love to bring this up.
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: Girl, it was right 20 years ago, too.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: It's been like decades, Jess.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: She was the first thing smoking. Right. She was working
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: with him. First thing smoking. I know that's right.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: You hear me? Okay.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: First of all, best thing ever happened to you.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Knock it off. I might choke on this tequila.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: And I dare your boy here to say you the
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: best thing that happened to me.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: One of them.
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: Okay, one of, one of.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: For sure, like, you, like, I've told you that before, though.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Not to get all emo and woo-woo, but, like, back
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: when I was at MTV and I was in New York, like, that,
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: you were a very important person in my life, and
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: it was a very complicated time for me, and I
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: was dealing with, like, insecurity, and you spoke so much
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: life into me, and I remember when you were even, like,
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: I see you on the Today Show, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. before I
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: was even like speaking those things out loud.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, well, I don't know. We'll see.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: I was just on the Today Show yesterday, right?
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: And I go out there often to do press and promote,
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: et cetera. And I was just like, who is this
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: guy just like, Speaking life into me and, like, seeing
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: not more for myself. I saw a lot for myself.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: But just, like, he was so bold in what.
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: He would declare over my future.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: He began downloads from God. What'd you say? He began downloads.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: He downloads. Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: What did, when you, before you knew her, what did,
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: what came over your spirit where you were like, she
• 24:48
  Speaker 10: needs that and let me, because that's another thing too,
• 24:50
  Speaker 10: is like you be needing it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: But you're not going to ask for it. Yeah, did
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you know I needed it or were you just being you?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: No, God just told me to tell you these things.
• 24:55
  Speaker 9: Literally, I would just see her and I saw the
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: light and God would tell me to tell her.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: You saw the light.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: So much, like I can't even say how much. It
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: was a really, I was struggling a lot with like,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: who am I? Because again, my identity was so wrapped
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: up in my career at the time and it wasn't
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: doing what I wanted it to do.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: And then here comes this dude who's.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: Like crushing it, right?
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: He's like top of his game, incredible. Everyone knows him,
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: loves him, he's so impressive. And he's like looking at
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: little of me.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Everybody loves him.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Most people love him. A select few love him.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: My first talk show, Zuri, was my co-host.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Uncommon Sense.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: The pilot for Uncommon Sense.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: She did the pilot, the first episode, and then she
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: left us to go to.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: You know what I did stick around for? I remember
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: when Drake sent you those bottles of champagne. You gave
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: us all the champagne bottles, and I took the Metro
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: home to Harlem, and I was on the train with
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: my champagne bottle, and it was.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: Just giving high, low, high, low, because they were like,
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: how she got it? Was it Ace's face?
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: But she on the train.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: Whatever it was.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: It was about Dom, huh?
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: It was about Dom.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it was Dom.
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: But he gave you the bottles you gave him away?
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Zoria bottle.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But she was leaving.
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: Did you keep the bottle?
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Zoria, did you keep the bottle? There you go. I
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: kept it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know where I popped that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: You don't got the bottle.
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: Congratulations.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I kept that. I got pictures, but I drank that.
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: You drank that one.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Sad when she left. You keep bringing it up.
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: Well, Zoria is a phenomenal talent. And you know, for
• 26:15
  Speaker 9: somebody like me, I need somebody to balance.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: That's why I love working with Envy all these years.
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: Nice.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: And even y'all now.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: But back then, yes, Dory was going.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Did you have a shot?
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: No, it's Zuri.
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: Zuri need to come back up here.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Like, every day.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: Just bring out the song. Once a week.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: You're nice on camera. On camera.
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: Yes, because Leonard is like... You want to talk about
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: not about sports?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: Yes, just watch on YouTube.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Limited series. Very excited about it.
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: No, don't do it that way. Let's talk about not
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: about sports and Plot Twist in this way. Because, like,
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: with the landscape changing, right?
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And what you do. Daytime TV, talk shows.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: You.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: a while ago was like, I'm going to start being
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. I'm going to get online. I'm going to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: tell people what I got going on. I'm going to
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: do my own thing.
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: Talk about the decision to do that because you've always,
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: I always knew you because you traditionally, you were the
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: girl with the job when it came to the red
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: carpets and networks. And that's hard for black women, especially
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: brown skin girls. But you were like, I don't want
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: to do that anymore, even though it's going so well.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Why? It wasn't that I just didn't want to do
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: it anymore. I just wanted to do more. I knew, like,
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: I've come here.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I'm doing this. I'm still doing that.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: For the record.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: But I wanted new challenges and I wanted ownership and
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: I wanted IP. And it's like at a certain point,
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: you just working for someone else's vision.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: And building someone else's vision.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: It's beautiful.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: It's rewarding to be a part of something bigger than yourself.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: But at a certain point, you start asking, like, what
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: big thing can I build to that I can bring
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: people into that they look forward to participating in.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: And hopefully that puts them on and that moves the
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: needle with them.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Like not about sports has been such a blessing because
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: I was able to hire people who I knew were
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: incredible talents, people that I've worked with producers behind the scenes.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: And it's like, no, you deserve to be working and employed.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: And it got really hard for a lot of us.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: And so to be able to give those.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: Opportunities in the way that they were given to me.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Like that to me has been the biggest blessing. And
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: then at the end of the day, I want to
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: be able to say yes to something because I want
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: to say yes, not because I got.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: To pay my mortgage that much.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: So the power that comes with building, I think is exciting.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: I'm still learning, you know, like we're still on that road,
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: but I'm excited to keep building and we'll see what happens.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Is it hard to date in your role because you're
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: such a boss and you're so strong, you're so powerful?
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: Is it hard to date somebody that understands.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: All of that? You need someone.
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: A little stronger. Like, do guys find you intimidating because
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: of your, you know?
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: So, yes, and it can be hard to date. I
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: think traditionally I have intimidated men more than they care
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: to admit in the moment. But I will also say,
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: as I focus on what I can control, which is me,
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: I think it takes a lot of masculine energy to
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: navigate worlds like this. And I say this with love, respect,
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: appreciation and acceptance of masculine and feminine energies.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: Like it's all necessary.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: And so I think for a long time, because my
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: identity was so caught up in the work stuff, I
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: thought like. the same qualities, traits, and energy that got
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: me the job were going to be impressive in relationship.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Like, oh, look how little I need you.
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: Look how I can do bad all by myself.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Like, I thought it was, oh, look, I'm choosing to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: be with you. I don't need to be with you.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: And I realized over time that that for a lot
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: of men, it was a turnoff.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it was from a place of insecurity.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: I have dated some very successful insecure men, situationships only.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: But it was more of like, well, if you don't
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: need me, like any, I.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Think, healthfully masculine man takes pride in being needed to
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: a certain extent. It takes pride in being able to
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: show up for you and provide. And I'm not just
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: talking financially. I'm especially not talking financially because I didn't
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: need that, but emotionally.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Providing and like, I want to be needed by you. Right.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: And so I was vice versa, too. One thousand percent.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: It's like an exchange.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: So I think I was energetically sometimes even pushing away
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: the very thing that I said I wanted without knowing
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: it because it took a different skill set.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: So like the last few years, I've really worked on embracing.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Like, what does it feel like to be soft and
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: to receive?
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: Like I'm learning to receive.
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: I hate that, but I understand.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Why do you hate it? What do you hate?
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: To me, it feels like almost a dimming of light.
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: You are who you are regardless, right? You are who
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: you are. You're powerful. You're strong.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: And if men are insecure and don't understand that, that
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: would be their loss.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: I shouldn't have to say... I have to get in
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: my feminine era.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Hey, not that.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Like, y'all niggas need to grow the fuck up. Okay.
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: Sometimes it takes the right gentleman to bring that soft era.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Perfect example. Chris. Hello. Right. Exactly.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Hardworking Mexican man.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Use the toughness.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Yo, please relax.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: So you should have been a Mexican man.
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: No, she should not.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: No.
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: My thing is, I was so hard up. My exterior
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: was just so hard. I'm always on guard. And then
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: I met a man that disarms me. Totally. Like, and
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: just with his presence.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: No insecurity. No insecurity.
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: He don't care.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Like, nothing.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Does not give a fuck that you're Jess Hilarious, the comedian.
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: He loves Jess Hilarious, who you are as a person.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: And I couldn't get away with half the shit that
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: I would do with other people with. with him, you
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: know what I mean? So sometimes it takes a certain
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: individual to pull.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: That out of you.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: So what did that look like?
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: In the early stages, were you fighting against it?
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Were you still very much walls up?
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: I don't need this.
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: I was fighting against it because it was foreign to me.
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: It was so unfamiliar.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I did not know.
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: I'm like, the fuck you think you are?
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: And he's like, no, no, no.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: It's not who I think.
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: It's who I am. I'm who I know I am.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That's right.
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: I received this.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Yo, you're the.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Person at church that needs to shut up.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I don't even have a shot.
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you messing up, yo.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: We are here.
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: That's right, Chris.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Jess was almost at communion on Sunday. And here you come.
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: So in the beginning of it, though, because it wasn't
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: that easy.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Was it?
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it was. It was that easy for
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you to just be like, okay, feminine. Because No, it
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: took months.
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: It took like five months.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: And he was just consistent still.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Consistent still. I love that.
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: Not even, you know.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: One time, right, we got into an argument and I
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: got a little spicy, you know. And he was like,
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: he was like, yeah, all right, well, look, I'm, yeah,
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: I'm done. Because I don't know, I don't.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Know what the fuck you think this is. Isn't there
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: something kind of attractive about that?
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: Yes, and I was like, no, don't go.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Like, where are you going?
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: Girl, like, don't go.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: A couple times it happened to me. I was like, wait,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and we can figure this out.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: And I was like, and since then, I have never
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: argued with him like that again because he was dead serious.
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: I thought it was sexy and everything, but like, She.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Was about to be out of there. And I'm like, no, stop.
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: You know, I'm pumped up right now.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Shut up. Like, for real. That's what's up. I'm happy
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: to hear this. What is this? I'm just happy to
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: hear this. You know what I'm talking about.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Chris is like, I ain't even got to be here, okay?
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not even documented.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I ain't even.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: Anyway, I'm right.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I'm right.
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: I just processed that. So a black Mexican. Okay.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: So he is here.
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: He's here legally.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: That means he mixed.
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: He not a Mexican and ag black. He's mixed.
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: But you know what's.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Interesting about that, though?
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: You can look at certain men and see them with
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: a woman and realize that woman feels safe.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: And I think that's the most important thing for a
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: man to recognize.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: We're... Are those men? Genuinely asking. Not in a resentful way.
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: You ain't never go back home to Toledo to try
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: to see where they at?
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I go to Toledo often.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Where are those people?
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: I think you got to meet somebody at a certain,
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: like you meet somebody and you know that they're at
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: a certain point of things, life, thought, conversation. Like when
• 34:28
  Speaker 10: you met Chris, and certain conversations happen, you was like, yeah,
• 34:31
  Speaker 10: I'm not about to get off on this one. Like
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: the same, like you, you know, like you, it's that.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Type of thing. Chris wasn't having it though. Yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: They will give it.
• 34:40
  Speaker 9: But it ain't even just about Chris, it's about them together.
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: I can see them together and be like, they're safe
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: for each other.
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: Definitely when I see you with Chris, when we went
• 34:49
  Speaker 10: to the Kendrick Lamar concert, that's my first time I
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: saw y'all together. And I was like, you, it was like, oh,
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: she's a wife. Like, but, but seeing you by yourself
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: is like just with the mess.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Or Jess Hilarious.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Wow. But when you're with him, it is a bit different.
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: It is different.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: It is different. Because I'm Jessica Roberts Oliver with my husband.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: But I'm Jess Hilarious. But Zuri, I love that.
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: I think for like when you're working through figuring that
• 35:12
  Speaker 10: out or like, are you dating right now?
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: You have somebody you like serious about?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Single again. I'm newly-ish single.
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: Oh, okay.
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: Been a little while.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Does he know?
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Does he know? It just happened 10 minutes ago. He
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: may not know. I can't make an announcement. I'm going to.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Say I know. All parties are aware.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: I am single and I am mixing and mingling and
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: I'm being really intentional about it because I do, I.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Look forward to being a wife. I look forward to
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: being a mother.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: I look forward to to applying my ambition to those roles.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: What does it look like to be a good partner?
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: What does it look like to raise beautiful, well-adjusted children?
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: And so I think that does make it a little
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: harder just because also when you're in L.A.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: And it's just, you know. Girl, them in L.A.? Well, wait,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: is it white or black men? Where you at?
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: All men.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, because I know genuinely all men.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: And I have.
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: Because the black men, they don't be in L.A. They
• 36:09
  Speaker 10: don't normally be focused on us.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: What are you focused on?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I was out there. Everybody but black women.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: People your color, boy.
• 36:15
  Speaker 10: And if they are black, they look like you where
• 36:17
  Speaker 10: it's like ambiguous or we don't know.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: You could be anything.
• 36:20
  Speaker 10: I mean, maybe it's changed since I left, but when
• 36:22
  Speaker 10: I was there for like the year and a half
• 36:23
  Speaker 10: I was single, I was like, oh, y'all can have these, man.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: It's a very specific type that.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: a lot of men are looking for out there and
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: also it's just a candy store like if you're a
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: dude who could settle down or could be outside for
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: a little bit longer and you're in LA where everyone
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: is gorgeous and you've got your pick of the litter
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: everywhere you turn yeah like it's just so hard to
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: convince a guy right I would never convince a guy
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: of anything but to like settle down like they're out
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: there they're mixing and mingling yeah like any guy I've
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: dated has never been like an industry like person dude
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: yeah like L.A. scene they might live in the city
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: but they're from somewhere else like I'm a very midwestern
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: southern sensibilities kind of person love that so I just
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: like what feels like home but at this point though
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: regardless of where you meet a man at you're gonna
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: meet a man that will probably come with a certain
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: sense of like he's done certain things or whatever so
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: there's gonna be women all the time but I think
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: The person, when you get to that point of what
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: you're talking about, they'll make you feel like it's just you.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: You don't have to even, that's not a question. It'll
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: just be like, we're in our own world type of thing.
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: Do you have a list? Because I know some women
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: have a list, right?
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I have ideas about what you.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: What are your ideas?
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: I'm just curious.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: He must look like Thor.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: No, we must not.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: We are not about to do that.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Don't take the bait.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Don't take the bait.
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: Don't take the bait.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: You on my nerves. I'm begging you not to take
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: his bait.
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: Because my assistant has a list and I hate her list.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Ben's got a list. Please shut up, Charlamagne.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: You can't have a size 12 min min. She doesn't
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: have a size 12 min.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: No, he saying she wear that and she shouldn't have
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: a list.
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: She don't wear a size 12.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: So what is your list?
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: And the reason I hate lists is.
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: Because she's six foot.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Three.
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: Six foot one, six foot next.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Easily.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Why don't you say three like that? But three, beautiful.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: But her list is like, she wants somebody taller.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, maybe you shouldn't be looking for tall
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: because the short person could be somebody that treats you
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: the right way. But she's so, if you're short, you're
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: out of this question.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: But you know what though?
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: This is what tall, you don't know what the short
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: struggle like.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Show me.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: And she wants somebody to pick her up.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: There's something about being picked up.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: And also, men, y'all get to be so highly specific
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: about what you want visually.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: I have guys who are like, oh, hook me up
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: with so-and-so, hook me up with whatever. And they are particular.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: Sometimes too particular.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: More particular than their aesthetic may deserve or justify.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: So what is your list? My list has nothing to
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: do with physicality. You've got to be taller than me.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I will admit that.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: A six foot or above would be ideal.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I'm 5'7.
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: But it's not physical. I want someone emotionally available.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: It's a deal breaker for me if you're not in
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: therapy and has been for years. So I've had men
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: get into therapy because they were interested in dating me.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: I want a man of God, a man of faith.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Like I take my spiritual practice really seriously and I
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: want someone who can pursue God with me. And I
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: really believe that when it's just two people trying to
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: figure it out, sometimes it becomes impossible.
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: But when you've agreed on a, an outside partner.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: For me, like my biblical faith and like what that
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: says about love in the purest of ways, we have
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: something outside of ourselves to point to a North Star
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: to guide how we build our relationship, how we love,
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: how we parent. I want someone who is successful enough
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: to not be intimidated by what I've got going on
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: because I've dated both sides of the spectrum. I haven't
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: cared either way because, again, I didn't need someone to
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: cover my bills. But then that very openness to someone
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: who wasn't maybe where I was, at first they were
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: attracted to it. And then eventually they started trying to
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: dim my light because they couldn't stand in that shadow.
• 40:08
  Speaker 10: So can you talk about that middle point of like
• 40:11
  Speaker 10: you don't date, like you're not dating people that, how
• 40:16
  Speaker 10: do I put it?
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 40:17
  Speaker 10: You don't want to date people that you know it'll become,
• 40:19
  Speaker 10: like if you're doing more, if you're making more money, right?
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:23
  Speaker 10: You said it's been hard dating people that aren't doing that.
• 40:25
  Speaker 10: But then you meet people that maybe can match you
• 40:28
  Speaker 10: or are more successful and there's a lot of.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Ego and insecurity and stuff.
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: Like what's the middle point exactly that you're looking for
• 40:35
  Speaker 10: and have you been able to verbalize that as a woman?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Because it is tough to find, understand, and work through. Mm-hmm. Ooh, Lauren,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I love you.
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: Questions the questions are good I.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: I don't know that I've reached a middle point I
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: I'm still figuring it out you know like I've tried
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: one end of the spectrum and it was like okay
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: it was cute for three months and they love your
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: house I remember one time a guy I was dating
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: him for maybe a month and a half whatever it
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: was early situation and he walked into my house for
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: the first time I don't know if he dropped me
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: off or whatever he ended up in my house and
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: he was gonna be leaving pretty quickly but he was
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: in there And when he looked around, something in him shifted.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: It changed.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: He was impressed, and he was also, I could see
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: him visually shutting down or pulling back.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: So that was the broken that is back here.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: That was the broken. He was like, I can't afford this.
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: The craziest part, I mean, he was doing well for himself.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: He was an actor. He was cool.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: But it was like, oh, this is how you're living?
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: I had another guy who I was dating for a
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: few months. quote unquote, man of God, all stuff. I
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: was like, okay, this is going to really work. And
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: one day, I guess he Googled my net worth. He
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: just out of nowhere was like, I think your net
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: worth is higher than mine.
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: I'm like, no, I know.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Wow, yo.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: But it was weird.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: It was weird. And I'm like, how do you know?
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: That man was crying.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: You're doing well.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Those things be lying. Don't Google our net worth. They
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: be lying.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: But he was like, oh, I Googled your net worth
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: and I just feel like you're worth more than me.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: And I was like, cool. How do you know that?
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, well, I looked at your house and how much
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: that's worth.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Boom.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: And it was bizarre that he was mad about that.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: He didn't get mad.
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: I think deep down he got insecure about it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: And this is somebody who I thought, OK, he's confident.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: He is very successful in his space, in the industry.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: Like he's crushing it. He's winning awards, all the things.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: And the kind of sad part about that was I
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: wasn't excited about that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: Because like, oh, I got me a man who did this.
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: This is this.
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: It was funny.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: I think I found somebody who won't be intimidated by me.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: I think I found someone who's doing enough that he
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: won't feel like whatever.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: And boom. And then that.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: He wanted you to need him.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:43
  Speaker 9: And he probably was attached to his identity in Hollywood
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: more than being just secure as a human being.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: Because she could have needed him in.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: A different way.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's a singer. Oh, okay.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: He's industry.
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Industry.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think I remember that one.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: But she could have needed him in a different way.
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: Not financially. She could have needed him in a different way, though.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: No, not financially. So, to Jess's point.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Because I do need him.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Emotionally.
• 43:10
  Speaker 10: But I think a lot of times it's hard for
• 43:12
  Speaker 10: men to... Unless in a certain space. When did y'all
• 43:16
  Speaker 10: get to the point and what did it take for
• 43:17
  Speaker 10: y'all to get to the point where you understood that...
• 43:20
  Speaker 10: Even if your wives are doing well or able to
• 43:24
  Speaker 10: do things better.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Lawrence, I met my wife at 16.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: It doesn't matter, but y'all grew up together.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: We grew up together.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Gia was making more than me at one point. Me too.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: My wife was making more than me.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent. So the roles had to change.
• 43:37
  Speaker 10: So at one point, you had to understand that even
• 43:39
  Speaker 10: if she's doing that, she still needs you as a man, right?
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but this is the difference, right? She already had
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: us as men. Yeah, like there is no mine and
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: hers in my house.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: It's like my wife, it's not like this is my
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: account and I got to give you an allowance.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about physical things.
• 43:52
  Speaker 10: I'm talking about what she's talking about is it's like
• 43:55
  Speaker 10: men have this thing where if you are like a
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: strong woman that might be independent and have been by yourself,
• 44:01
  Speaker 10: if you don't know how to like mentally and not
• 44:04
  Speaker 10: financially appeal.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Like, oh my God, I need you. Come save my life.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Come fix my tire. They don't know how to comprehend that.
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: They don't know how to- It's different, right?
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: It's different.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: You got to think, Gia is my friend, right? We weren't,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: it wasn't based off of money. Like we were high
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: school sweethearts. We were friends.
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: So anything now is just bonus.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Like, everything else so when it comes to our life
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: it's like we really plan it out like for instance
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: gear had the better job than i did right we
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: got she got pregnant she decided look i don't want
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: a nanny raising our child i don't want to do
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: it i'll do this and then we'll see what happens
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: and then my career took off but it's still the
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: same there is no mine and hers it's the household
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: like Gia can go and.
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: Do what she wants to do.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: That's why, you know, my wife just went on a
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: 17-day girl's trip, right, with her girls.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: 17 days. I love that.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: And people are like, oh, my gosh, you let your wife?
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like, let?
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: My wife was like, babe, I want to do this
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: with the girls.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, I'll hold it for her.
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: And I got six kids. I'll hold the fort down.
• 45:02
  Speaker 10: It's because some people, the mentality shift doesn't happen for them.
• 45:05
  Speaker 10: And that's what I'm asking you guys more so about.
• 45:06
  Speaker 10: It's like, you guys have a really great mentality in
• 45:09
  Speaker 10: your households. And a lot of people, I see married
• 45:11
  Speaker 10: people saying, Now that I'll be like, yeah, I don't
• 45:14
  Speaker 10: want that type of marriage.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: It's the, you let.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Nah, there's no you let in my house.
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: She lets me go out.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 45:21
  Speaker 10: I was wondering what got you guys to that. I mean,
• 45:23
  Speaker 10: y'all grew up with your wives, basically.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 45:25
  Speaker 9: I think it's different because of that. I don't know
• 45:28
  Speaker 9: anything else. I don't know my life without her.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Like, I just don't. Oh, that's so sweet.
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: That's so nice of you.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: This is beautiful.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's this.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Do you still think you're a people pleaser?
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I heard you say you were a recovering people pleaser. Yeah,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: recovering people pleaser.
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: No, not as much.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: Not at my own detriment. Not if it costs me
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: more than I'm willing to offer up or give. No,
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: I'll say no and let you sit in that discomfort.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: Let myself sit in the discomfort sometimes, too. But, yeah, traditionally,
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: I was someone who very much wanted to make people
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: feel good and happy and accommodate, et cetera.
• 46:01
  Speaker 9: But, That's interesting because people-pleasing can look like kindness from
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: the outside. When did you realize there was a difference
• 46:07
  Speaker 9: between genuinely being kind and needing people to be pleased
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: with you?
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: When it was causing me pain, harm, discomfort emotionally.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: And I was still doing it.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: It was, you know, and I was on a podcast
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: recently and we talked about this. Like people pleasing in
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: a certain way can be like a form of unintentional
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: even manipulation. It's like I'm doing something to get something right.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: So it's not malicious, but it's still like you're it's
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: not giving just to give. And so when I realized that,
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: you know, like I thought, no, I'm just trying to
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: be nice and I'm trying to connect dots and I'm
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: trying to make you happy or whatever.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: But it's like, oh, no, deep down underneath.
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: Like I also want you to like me, accept me,
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: choose me, whatever.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: And so it is still an exchange, even if it's subconscious.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: So now I really try to focus on giving freely.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: And if I never got a thing back from this
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: was giving it enough. And as a giver, as someone
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: who enjoys that, like I accept and appreciate that like
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: the giving was the gift for me and that's it.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: So I give now and I show up and I
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: connect dots when it will just feel good to, To
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: do it. Because it was the right thing to do
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: or a nice thing to do. But if there's something
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: underneath that I'm trying to get, like, I try to
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: check myself now.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I can see that your boundaries have gotten clearer.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Very much so.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Has that made your standards higher? Mm-hmm.
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm worried they're going to get too high
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: and I'm going to die alone.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I'm joking. It's dark, dark humor.
• 47:37
  Speaker 10: A lot of people feel like that. Like the girls
• 47:39
  Speaker 10: who have the standards and are doing the thing.
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: Look, I believe that he's coming.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Whoever it is, is coming.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: I joke about, oh my God, like I hate it here, whatever.
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: But the truth is like, I'm good at being single.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: I love getting to know new people. I mix, I mingle.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: My standards are high. I hope someone can meet them.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: I also feel like I can give what I'm asking.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: It's not unreasonable.
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: And I want to be married.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: I want to have kids and I'm excited, but I
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: don't want it so badly that I'm willing to compromise
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: on the important stuff. Right. And I think that allows
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: you to date from a place of power and a
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: place of peace because I potentially want you, but I
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: don't need you in the way of marriage.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Like, I'll settle for whatever.
• 48:21
  Speaker 8: And so when Envy asked you your list and you
• 48:23
  Speaker 8: told us, listen, listening to your list, that's so realistic
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: and it's so possible.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Except for the tall part.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Jess.
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: Six foot is not even that tall.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: That is not.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: That's the minimum.
• 48:34
  Speaker 8: Those were literally my manifestations.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: And I am married.
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: To be my king right now that has all of
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: those qualities. It is so not impossible.
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: Did you know before you met him, did you have
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: the list?
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: And you were like, well, I'll be damned. He's here.
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: Girl, absolutely I had the list. I just didn't ask
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: for him to be maxed.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Again, so shut up. You said hard work.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: You said hard work. That's not a list. It's not.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: You did. She said hard work.
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: I did have a list, Lauren, because after dating this
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: person and this person and this person, I'm realizing like, yo,
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: what the hell? I'm learning something about myself in every relationship.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, I get what you're saying.
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: And I'm also learning what I don't like and what
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: I don't want to tolerate in the next relationship. So
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: that actually prompted me to make a list. Like, you
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: know what I mean?
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, you really sat and wrote a list? No, no, no.
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: I just, again, ideas like that. But I knew I
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: wanted somebody emotionally available. Somebody, you know, and then also,
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: this is what I particularly wanted, right? Because dating, growing
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: up in Baltimore, you date what you are taught to
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: see from an early age. You know what I mean?
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: Street dudes, right?
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: I wanted someone who.
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: Loved me, who I felt like loved me, even when
• 49:42
  Speaker 8: he was mad at me. If you can love me
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: through an argument, you don't gotta say, shut the fuck up, baby.
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: Or like, you know what I'm saying?
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: I love you. Or you know what I'm saying?
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: I love you, bitch. You know what I'm saying? You
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: don't have to say that. But it's like, you know,
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: you still feel, because some arguments can hit so hard
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: where it's like, you can't come back from that.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 50:03
  Speaker 8: And I argue, I used to argue like that, hit
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: below the belt. If he says something crazy, I got
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: to say something crazier. I don't care what it is,
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: who it's about. If I done hurt, I could make
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: something up and hurt your feelings.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: I don't know where that came from. But if you
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: could argue with me and I still feel like I
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: love you and you love me, that's great.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: That's beautiful. You know what I mean?
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: And so when he came along disarming me and shit,
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: I'm like. I was fighting it for a while, but
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: after a while, I'm like, this is what you ask
• 50:30
  Speaker 8: for with dumb ass. Get it together.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Before it goes.
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: And then when he threatened me to go, I was like, all.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Right, no, no, no.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: I want to be soft.
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: I want to be soft.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I love you.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: No, I really appreciate that. And I think similar, right?
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: I think when you've grown up, especially as like for me,
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: the oldest, but it's just you feel like you're on
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: your own. You've got to do it yourself. You've got
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: to be in self-protection mode. And yeah, like my mouth
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: could be a blessing and a curse. Like the very
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: thing that got me where it's gotten me and work,
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: like I could either use it for good or I
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: could use it for bad. And I had to get
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: really intentional about only using it for good. And I
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: think in relationship, it brings out the best and the
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: worst in us. But it's such a beautiful practice. Like
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: love is such a beautiful practice.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: If two people are committed to it.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: Because I hear you saying that this man was like,
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: Kind of putting you in.
• 51:19
  Speaker 8: Your place in a good way and letting you know
• 51:21
  Speaker 8: what it was.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Going to be and what it wasn't.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: But the fact that he chose to stay and work
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: through it with you and you chose to stay and
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: work through it with him, I think that is the dream, right?
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: Like the fact that you had a slick mouth, was
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: going to say what you had to say before, and
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: suddenly you're not because you've met a man who's willing
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: to work.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: My man, my man, my man.
• 51:39
  Speaker 8: Shut up.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: And work with me. I'm with you.
• 51:42
  Speaker 8: Stop playing with me. Because that was the first time
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: my pride did not get in the way. Because I
• 51:46
  Speaker 8: usually be like, go the fuck in.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: But you changed, though.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: You changed a lot, though.
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: And I've seen Chris.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Are you stopping me?
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: You being with Chris.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Made you change a lot. It made you think outside
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: the box. You don't jump and attack right away. It
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: made you more of a loving, motherly, nicer person as.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: Were there moments ever when that popped up with him?
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: And he, instead of being like, look at you. You
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: talking crazy. You said whatever.
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: Bye. Where he was like, I see what this actually is,
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: so I'm going to give you an opportunity to course correct?
• 52:13
  Speaker 8: No.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: No.
• 52:14
  Speaker 8: No.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Not yet.
• 52:16
  Speaker 8: Nah.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not playing. I told you.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: I told you about this shit.
• 52:20
  Speaker 8: Three months ago.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 52:21
  Speaker 8: And it's coming back up.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I don't like this.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 52:23
  Speaker 8: Because this ain't how I communicate. This is not how
• 52:25
  Speaker 8: you're supposed to communicate as an adult. But he could
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: say that, right?
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: The fact that he could articulate that.
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: Like, this is not civil.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Because most people build a wall between. them in there.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: You know what? You know what?
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I was just.
• 52:40
  Speaker 10: About to be like, that's so beautiful because I feel it,
• 52:43
  Speaker 10: like I get it.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: And then he said build a wall and you know
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: that Chris is half Mexican.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: She drunk.
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah, she is. Cut it out.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: It just all hit me and I'm like, that's so
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: messed up. I wasn't even talking about that.
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: Your man too though?
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Wait, no, no.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Cause y'all done.
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: Tell us more, Lauren.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: How do you feel?
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: How do you relate to that?
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: I love hearing about this healthy love.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You learn a lot in relationships. I
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: learned so much in the.
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: Relationship I'm in right now that I'm like, I don't,
• 53:22
  Speaker 10: it's certain things even about myself that I'm learning that
• 53:24
  Speaker 10: I'm like, I don't want to carry this into my marriage.
• 53:26
  Speaker 10: I don't want my kids to grow up watching this
• 53:29
  Speaker 10: as this is what mommy does, this is what daddy does, whatever.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent.
• 53:32
  Speaker 10: And I think this is the first time where I've
• 53:34
  Speaker 10: ever even gave a fuck, to be honest with you.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: And the other time, it's like, I mean, sure.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Don't give a fuck to not stop drinking.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: You be like, bye. Any other time.
• 53:43
  Speaker 8: Why does she have to say that? This nigga said
• 53:45
  Speaker 8: stop drinking. She is not an alcoholic no more.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Not no more.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: What? Lauren, I was not an alcoholic.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: They were both alcoholics.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: You about to cry right now.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not.
• 53:56
  Speaker 10: When you're sitting here with Charlamagne every single day, you
• 53:58
  Speaker 10: just got to get through it.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: You got to get through it.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: She would have drank that bottle for Charlamagne if she
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: had stayed.
• 54:05
  Speaker 8: I promise you.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: We're going to have to end this.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Interview soon because I hear it. Y'all can't hear it
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: getting dumber and dumber.
• 54:12
  Speaker 8: Dumber and dumber, yo.
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: Stop.
• 54:13
  Speaker 9: Listen, I just want you to know only 15% of
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: adult men in the U.S.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Are six feet or taller.
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: Yo, shut up, man.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: That's a fact.
• 54:19
  Speaker 9: Coming from a short man. 15% of men are six
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: feet or taller. Only 3% to 4% are 6 feet
• 54:26
  Speaker 9: 2 inches taller. Just over 1% are 6 foot 4 taller.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: So think about how you're shrinking your pool. By the average,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I've been good.
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: I've never dated a man under 6 feet, so clearly
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: they're around.
• 54:37
  Speaker 10: When you put your heels on, if you want him
• 54:38
  Speaker 10: to look a certain height next to you, that is okay.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: Don't let a short man give you the stats of
• 54:44
  Speaker 8: tall men.
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: No, and all love to the short kids.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: What about husky men, like morbidly obese men?
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Just a little wide.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: A man is not fat. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Damn. Y'all
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: really be playing with.
• 54:57
  Speaker 8: Him in here.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Y'all really be playing with him in here.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Like, honestly. I just offended you. You did not.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I said he's not fat.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: I wasn't even talking about that.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: Because you open the floodgates and then you throw the alley-oop.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Dumb and dumbers, shut up. Family. We are family. Let's
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: go back to the piece of love. Anyway, Jory.
• 55:16
  Speaker 9: I don't want to get you in trouble because both
• 55:25
  Speaker 9: of y'all, I see both of y'all getting saucy. Listen,
• 55:27
  Speaker 9: my last question is, if everything you've accomplished so far
• 55:31
  Speaker 9: was actually just preparation, not the destination.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: What do you think you've been preparing for?
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Wow.
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: That is an incredible question. I need to sit with
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: that one. I don't need, I can't even, I don't.
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: Want to pull an answer.
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I think it's preparing me for, I
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: realized I'm at a point in my life, like I've
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: been talking to a lot of women younger than I am, right?
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: About a decade or so younger.
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: And I'm realizing the lessons I've been learning, the things
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: that I'm still learning, some of the things that I'm
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: angry about, disappointed.
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: About, I'm like, oh, it's not for me yet.
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: Like I'll apply this lesson in my life eventually or
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: in my future relationships But when I'm pouring into them
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: or I'm telling them what I'm learning or what I'm
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: going through and they're saying, thank you for sharing that.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: Like, I appreciate your transparency, your vulnerability only in the
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: last couple of weeks.
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, that's what this is for.
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: And so there is a selflessness that I am being taught. Like,
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: I think that's how God is working.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: On me right now.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: I've always tried to be a giver and I loved
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: in certain ways, but I've never thought that my pain,
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: my experiences, my disappointments could be for me. Someone else
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: like maybe I did go through that.
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: Not for me. Maybe that was because I.
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: Need to speak life into another woman and it's going
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: to move the needle there in a significant way. And
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: that will eventually plant seeds that whatever. And so over time,
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: I'll look and see, oh, that actually moved the needle
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: and changed someone's life or lives for the better.
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: I never thought about it like that.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I never thought that my pain could be.
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: For someone else's gain. Um, and so I think maybe.
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: That is, is it, if there's like a lesson that
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: I'm supposed to be learning, if there's a, a why
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: that I'm not aware of, it's like, I'm going through
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: this stuff, not for me so that at the finish line,
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: I can be like, I conquered, I won, I got
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: the gold medal.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just going.
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: Through it to help somebody else get a gold medal.
• 57:24
  Speaker 8: That seems like your purpose, like to help other people,
• 57:26
  Speaker 8: like your connectivity with other people, teaching them, passing on gems.
• 57:29
  Speaker 8: Like you said, going through things, you know, giving, giving
• 57:34
  Speaker 8: the advice or, you know what I mean? Like the
• 57:36
  Speaker 8: blueprint for someone else to help them.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 57:39
  Speaker 8: That seems very purposeful.
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: And I've always done that professionally. I was always so
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: excited to be like, okay, this is what I'm doing.
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: This is how you can do it. These are the
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: dots I can connect. But because again, I never put much,
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: I never put as much thought or intentionality into the
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: personal life.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: I just never thought about it.
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: And now it's like, I'm going through a lot and
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: it's mostly like the personal stuff and whatever it is.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, what is the why with this? Like,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: and you want.
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: To say there's like, the guy in the life and
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: the family at the end.
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: And that's the prize. And like, God willing, that's a
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: part of the journey.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: It's not the prize, but there is something really special
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: about being like, I'm learning so many lessons.
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: Like, that's why I can't wait. I hope I have
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: a daughter. I want sons.
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: Like I'm excited about being a boy mom, but I'm like,
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: I really hope I have a daughter because there's so
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: much that I've learned being a woman navigating that I
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: just want to Pour into a little young.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Babies early.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. Teach her early what you learn late.
• 58:31
  Speaker 8: Exactly.
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: Teach her early what I learn late.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: That's exactly it. That's what I'm saying. That's literally where
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking.
• 58:36
  Speaker 10: Even outside of a relationship, I'm just like, with my daughters,
• 58:39
  Speaker 10: especially my daughters, but with my children, there's a lot
• 58:41
  Speaker 10: of things that my mom taught me very early on.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: But there were a lot of.
• 58:45
  Speaker 10: Things that I think she didn't even have the privilege
• 58:47
  Speaker 10: to figure out for herself before she became a mom.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: The privilege. And I want to lean in on my privilege.
• 58:52
  Speaker 10: I want to, as much as I can, before my
• 58:54
  Speaker 10: babies are on this earth and I'm pouring things into
• 58:56
  Speaker 10: them that I might not even know I need to
• 58:58
  Speaker 10: help them heal from.
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: Amen.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: And that's where I'm trying to be at. That's it.
• 59:01
  Speaker 7: Well, Zuri, you need to come back up on the wall.
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Please watch Hot Twists.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Hot Twists is fun. Thank you.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Zuri Hall, thank you for joining us. Tell them how
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: to follow you and stuff.
• 59:10
  Speaker 8: Zuri.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Follow me on Instagram, Zuri Hall. What else?
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: I've got a sub stack, zurihall.substack.com.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: I've been writing a lot about what I'm... navigating right now,
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: personal reflections, essays, et cetera.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: So, yeah.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what you do next, Zuri,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: because I know it's going to be amazing.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: That's right. Thank you, Char.
• 59:26
  Speaker 8: Happy to meet you.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Bye, Chaz. Thank you, Lauren.
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: It's The Breakfast Club.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Good morning.
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 59:32
  Speaker 8: Hold up.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: Breakfast Club.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Y'all finished or y'all done?