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They Want That Old Ye Back · Hip-Hop Now Podcast

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Coming up. On this week's episode of hip Hop Now podcast, Eric Summon
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says he's bringing that old day back with an album called Ya three, but
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Yay says otherwise. Stove Got Cooks is warming up with a new single called
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Carbone. And my thoughts on a new album by Schoolboy Q Blue Lips.
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I don't think I understand what the title means, but I think the album
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is pretty good. Let's get into it. Welcome to hip Hop Now Podcasts.
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I'm getting some of these stories from. Let's get right to business. So
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I love Eric sinon. EPMD was my favorite group back in the days.
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When they broke up, I was broken by it. Never really recovered because
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I just really kind of ignored the albums that came after that, including the
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Comeback album, even though they were dope songs on that album and on the
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album after that. I think it's called unfinished No, I don't know something
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business. But nevertheless, I kind of, you know, fell back on
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epm D, even though I got a bested epm D on my phone that
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I listened to and all of that. And over the years when they would
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do interviews, Eric sermon specifically from time to time would kind of annoy me
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a little bit. And I didn't know if it was his personality the moment,
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whether he was on something. I don't think he was on something.
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I think that's just him. But he always talked like the stream of consciousness,
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and sometimes it you know, if he talked for so long, like
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on a drink, champs or whatever. He would contradict things that he said
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earlier because it's kind of rambling and it's just something personal with me. With
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it's difficult to watch somebody not slow down and think all the time before they
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talk. But in recent interviews, I don't know what was going on before,
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but he seemed a little bit different and it didn't seem like stream of
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consciousness, and maybe it was edited, who knows, But nevertheless, it's
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good interviews because Eric Simmon is a legend in his game, legendary producer,
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legendary rapper. He has so many credits, insights, admiration. He talked
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about, you know, working what it's like working with doctor Dre, all
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of that, but more What was more interesting about the interview I saw and
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I saw this on Hip Hop d X dot com. I don't know if
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it's their original video, but that's why I saw it. What was most
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interesting was when he talked about Kanye West and how he works with him from
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time to time and you know how great he is to work with because he
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listens to Eric Simon and Eric Simon's goal working with Ya on a couple of
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songs was to bring the old Ya back now when people hear that, you
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know, I missed the old YEA. First of all, Kanye West does
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not like okay, He does not like to hear that. But generally when
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people say that, they just want him to get back to music that felt
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so entrenched within the black community without spewing hate towards another community. The music
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was more soulful and and probably most importantly, Yay was just dead to try
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to be the best rapper, Like that's it. Not to make a statement
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about politics or race or everything, all illuminati and conspiracy theories, but to
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really just be the best rapper. And that's what Eric Simon wanted to do
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with this Yay three album. And he said they did a couple of joints
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and he was like, I got him, I got it, I got
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the old Yay back. He rap it, I got him, y'all.
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You know, we just need to finish, but I got him for y'all
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get ready. So a part of me was like, well, I don't
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know if it's going to change anything he's done so far, but it would
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be interesting to hear what the old Yay sounds like today. Wow. Kanye
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West called Wind the Back because you know what happened. People heard Eric Simon
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say that people trust Eric Simon. They probably ran over to ya, like,
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yo, you got an album called Yea three? You know, you
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know the old yay back, oh yay back, and they just wound up,
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probably irritating himself. This is uh And just to confirm yes, the
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interview was with Hip Hop d X. Let's see, let's find what Kanye
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said. Kanye said, this is fake news. Ain't no album called why
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three. It's called Why three? I said, ya three, Ain't no
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album called why three? And ain't nobody trying to be the old ya?
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When I made eight O eights and Heartbreaks, people were running around talking about
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they missed the old Yea And then he went off to ramble, like what
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he said, we just made king back to me Carnival talking just to name
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a few, what do he say, got numbers? Hold up, this
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is a lot of just a lot of ramblers. We got the number one
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song in the world and number one album in the world with top level beats,
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top level bars, top level hooks, top level features. I'm the
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greatest artist in any genre ever, ever, and I'm just getting started.
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And what do I say about that? What a disappointment. I get it
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right. Let's just look at jay Z Knis. Jay Z and Nis has
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said similar things about fans who wanted them to be all Maatic Nas again or
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Reasonable Doubt check and they both had two great lines that kind of summarized how
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they felt about that sentiment, right, Nas on Stelmatic saying they thought I'd
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make another Allmatic, but it's only forward. I'm moving, never back with
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stupid. Here's another classic c Noteses Fuller from the sky like once he said
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that, I was like, yep, I don't I don't want Allmatic.
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I want this guy, this guy who put that line together, and Jay
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I think it was on Blueprint three said hold on that new ish people like,
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how come they want my old music, by my old album? He's
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absolutely one thousand percent right when you like ten albums deep, y'all want that
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old thing. I know what I do. Anytime I want to feel nostalgic
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for old jay Z from Reasonable Doubt or any of the Value series or the
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Blueprint or American Gangster you know or whatever, I just go back and listen.
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Man, you don't have to keep giving me the same thing over and
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over, because after a while, I get tired of it now. The
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counterpoint is we have to like what you're doing now because there is merit in
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people wanting the old Yay. His music hasn't been as good since maybe in
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my opinion maybe Jesus. I think that was like the cap, but really
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because Jesus is something I started to like later, like more recently. I
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didn't really like it when it came out. But my Beautiful Dog Twisted Fantasy
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is to me like that back is old. Yeah, And it's something to
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be said about that old game, right, because again I don't I listened
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to Volch's one, and I don't think it's a bad album Musically. I
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think it sounds great. I think the quality that comes with it just shows
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what kind of a producer he is. I think that part is that part
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of the old Ya is still there. It may not be the same beats,
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but that craftsmanship as a producer, it's still there. That demand for
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quality, it's still there in his music. But what's not there is who
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he is. Lyrically. I ain't hearing no bars on that album that made
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me feel like the old YA was back, let alone dope lyrics like you
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want to talk about oh, yay to me on Watch the Throne. Kanye
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was better than jay Z. I thought I would never think that, but
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he was in his bag. That's what people want, Kanye. They want
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that slick talk. Your slick talk. Now when you're walking around dressed like
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the monsters, like the Frankenstein, the pops on that joint, and then
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you talking about you the best rapper when you got a mask on like you're
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thirty second entrant on the Royal Rumbo. May get out of here, We
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get out of here. There's nothing you can say. There's no amount of
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money you can talk about things that I'm gonna just say me. You're gonna
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talk about things I've never heard of before. I don't care because people have
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to care to be offended by stuff like that. I don't care how much
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money you've got. I don't care that. You know you walk your woman
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around like I don't know what's going on with that. Get back to the
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music for real, because this ain't it. And you know, maybe I'm
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a victim of Eric Simon hyping me up. I don't know, but that's
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how I felt about it. How do you feel you want the oh yeah?
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Back? Could care less? Given all the things he said. Leave
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the comments in the comments section below. Oh yeah, well, Eric Simon,
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Now that's what we're talking about. That's a combination we're talking about because
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I know every sermon going to be in his usual bad He don't have to
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be old ever excitement because he never changed really he enhanced. So we'll see.
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Stove God Cuts has a new single out called Carbone. I think that's
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how you pronounce it. I'm not going to say pause, because why would
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you even think that he's working with a dude named Stoop who I'm not that
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familiar with. I think he did the production of Now. Stove God had
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released a project I'm not a project, a single I think in January,
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and that single wasn't that impressive to me? Considering why we like him reasonable
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drought, I feel comfortable calling it a classic. Yes, already, every
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time I press play on that project produced by Rock Marciano, I feel like,
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man, this is Quen's essential boom back. Like, if you want
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to know what boombap is, obviously there's plenty of examples. This is it
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beats bars just perfect. And I wasn't the biggest fan in the beginning because
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I didn't really care for his style that much, but then it kind of
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wants to be completely honest rock Marciano's beats match with stove Goud Cooks was Chef's
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kiss perfect. So when I heard this new single in January, after waiting
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all this time because I know he's with Griselda, waiting all this time for
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stove Guide project, and I said it in my preview of twenty twenty four,
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I think this is the year. Wow, I'm gonna say it again,
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y'all, this is the year we want to finally get what this album
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means. This single, it's way better than the first one, but is
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extremely short. It's two minutes and I don't even know if it's a verse
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and a half. And what makes that so disappointing is his bars are crazy
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on him. I was listening to the first couple of seconds, I was
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like, oh, oh, oh, like okay, I think we think
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we're warming up. I think stove God is warming up. So while the
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record is short, it is worth checking out because if you had been anticipating
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a stove God song or album, I should say, and you're tired of
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hearing them all hooks on everybody else's album and you just don't you just want
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a Stove God project. I get the method to the madness because they wanted
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to keep him in the ears and eyes of hip hop heads on like Westside
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Guns, because like Westside Guns last album, he was on mad songs like
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and you Know he's on Benny Joined, like he's been on everybody joint.
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Like they're trying to keep him within the ether of things right, not that
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either, but trying to keep him busy in the public eye. This isn't
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the big single, but I think it's definitely a start. The next one
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gotta be crazy, next one gotta be crazy. This one, the beat
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is dope. I love the way he's rhyme, and it's just way better
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than the other singles. That other single doesn't even need to hit the album
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because I wouldn't miss it. It's not the worst thing in the world,
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but it was just so like, man whatever, it made me miss Rock
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Marcian's production. This Carbone song makes me optimistic for the production, because that's
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the key with Stove guys. He's so different from every other rapper that you
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can't just give him regular beats. They got to be big, or they
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got to be the thirtiest boom back beats ever. So he just get loose
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on that joint. We'll see. Like I said before, I'm optimistic.
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I think Hip Hop DX also has some bars here. They can't do it
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like I do. They say they getting money, but they don't look like
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I do. Oh but they didn't put the real bars here. Okay,
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well trust me, he got some bars better than that. But we'll see.
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I don't know. I don't want to jinx it. This is one
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of my most anticipated albums this year. I didn't know if it would even
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come out. But we're starting RAMPO. We won't be up here all right.
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talking about Schoolboy Q. It's been a time. It's been a long time
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since he's released something, or at least it feels that way, and you
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know, really tde kind of being quiet because it felt like you had the
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big Kendrick release and you know, it was like Kendrick and Sisson and it
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was like, well, where's everybody else? Now? Isaiah Rashad he got
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a dope new record out that I really like a lot, Like I really
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like it a lot, But we was waiting on, like where's Schoolboy CUTA
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like where he at? Like if there was Heads of the Table. You
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know, everybody's equal, don't get me wrong. App Sola is dope as
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well, But if it was like Heads of the Table kind of thing,
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Schoolboy c was like the probably third most important member of the Justice League,
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you know what I'm saying, Like that's how it feels, not that Justice
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TD. But and I don't think personally, I don't think he have a
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whack album. Even the album that people liked the least, I still felt
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it was good. It just wasn't better than what he had done. So
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now he releases Blue Lips, which comes in at about an hour fifty eight
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minutes. I had eighteen tracks, the lead single was What's called YEARN one
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on one, which I thought was cool. An album features Apps, Soul,
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Jazi, Child's Major, Freddy Gibbs, we Go Nasty, among others.
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And my listening experience with this isn't a review. This is more of
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impressions. But my listening experience is always to listen three times. Right.
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One is just the initial reactions. Usually sometimes I do that at midnight because
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I'm up. The second listen is when I'm in the gym, and then
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the third listen is usually right after that to kind of confirm what I thought
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on a second listen. And I gotta say, I feel like this is
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another good album from Schoolboy Cue. I don't feel like it's an instant classic.
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I don't feel like, oh it's so great. I just feel like
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it's good. But I gotta give it some time, mainly because I feel
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like it has a strong start, and then somewhere in the middle I started
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to lose it, started to lose my attention a little bit. Now,
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typically let's just take my gym listen. Typically, if I'm engaged in the
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album while i'm working out, man, I hear everything about it. It
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don't matter what workout I'm doing. I hear every single word beat, you
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know, when I come up from a set, I'm looking like, what
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song was that? Or you know who was on there? Blah blah blah.
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And with this I had, I found myself trying to bring my attention
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back to the album. On a third listen, I felt like, Okay,
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the album is good, but I think it's too long, and me
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coming from an era where albums sometimes were even longer than that, sounds crazy,
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but hit me out. I feel like nowadays, not that you have
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to make shorter albums or shorter songs, but I feel like nowadays you can
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easily lose someone's attention span because we are so distracted by other things, not
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even just music, just other things in general, other information in these devices,
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these phones and stuff that is so easy for you to take your mind,
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take your ears off, the music, off the lyrics. And I
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felt like there were times where I was doing that because there were songs that
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were just kind of like, this song isn't really that good, they could
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have took it off. I generally feel like, if you cut this album
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down to fifteen songs, it's great. It's top five of the year.
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Easy because What stands out to me the most on his Blue Lips album one
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is the production quality. Y'all gotta give TD some props. Man their album
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sound, all of them, Sizza, Isaiah Shah, all of them.
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The album sound excellent, Kendrick. They just sound good. They're just so
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well thought out with the musical choices and the sounds and the quality of the
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sounds, like everything and then the rappers is just so polished, Like Schoolboy
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Q is such a polished free MC that can go straight gangster and make it
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just as believable as an introspective song or a song where he chooses to use
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a lot of wordplay. Like That's what I love about what Schoolboy Q does.
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He just has a knack for being able to wear different hats bars.
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You know, I was feeding for the gap, Yo, I'm on the
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row now, but you know what I'm saying, Like he is just so
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flexible with adapting to the production styles that I think that's what the detriment is,
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because I think they're just certain tracks. If it don't really fit within
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the aesthetics of the album, or it's not as I don't know, let's
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go with good, it's not as good as your strongest records. I think
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it's okay to shelve those joints and maybe they sound better on a you know,
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unreleased stole, you know, B sides type of projects somewhere in between
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your album because I think maybe then it's more digestible because you know, this
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is what it is within the frame of this project. So with that said,
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oh, one real quick thing. So, school boy Q has said
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online that Freddy Gibbs watched him on the song they were on. I don't
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think so. I thought Freddy gibbs verse was dope, but I thought Schoolboy
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Q's verse was equally as dope. And they're just two different types of rappers,
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styles and how they approach music. He even posted about taking this album
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to jay Z and having him listen to it, having him listen to it,
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and jay Z saying, Yo, run that back. So you listened
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to two hours of this, that's what you're saying, because it's one hour
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to listen to the whole album. And maybe he did. Who else?
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Maybe he did, But I think jay Z heard what I heard. Just
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now. I'm gonna say this because I gotta keep saying this because Conway proved
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me wrong last year. I'm getting to the point where my anticipation for the
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artists that I really like gets so high that if it isn't met, I'm
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just kind of like, that's it. And then I continue to listen over
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time, and then I come back at the end of the year and be
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like, oh, I love it. I play it all the time.
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So what do you think? Have you heard Blue Lips by a schoolboy Q
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or your schoolboy Q fan? Do you like it? How does it compare
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it to the albums in this catalog? Can you compare it to anything in
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this catalog? I don't think so. I feel like it's very different than
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most of the albums we've got from like blank Face and Oxymoron and all of
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that. But I'm just gonna keep listening because I think it sounds really good.
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And sometimes you take a break and come back to it, and you
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know, you you hear an album with different as you hear it more deeply,
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and it's not forcing yourself to like it. It's not the point.
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It's maybe I wasn't listening as close. Because there's some garbage rappers that you
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can you could sit there like a statue and listen to their whole album and
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have the same conclusion this album's trashed, right, I don't have to do
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that. If I like, if I like this artist's previous work, I'm
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always going to give it the benefit of doubt, like Benny the Butcher's album,
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which I had a similar feel or a similar reaction to it and still
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kind of play it every day, y'all. So he's one of my he's
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one of my favorite rappers. So there you have it. Leave your comments
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