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Texans-Lions Montgomery trade reaction, Seahawks & 49ers free agency, NFL Combine | Richard Sherman · The Richard Sherman Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And this all
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Speaker 1: season has been kind of quiet, a few franchise tags,
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Speaker 1: a few trades. But another trade that's happened. The Texans
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Speaker 1: get running back David Montgomery from the Detroit Lions for
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Speaker 1: a fourth round pick, Juice Scrugs and a seventh round pick.
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Speaker 1: This seems to be a move the Texans felt like
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Speaker 1: they needed to make strengthen their running back room. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: Davidntgomery grew kind of disgruntled in Detroit just because obviously
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Speaker 1: what Jamier Gibbs has become, he's been He's become one
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Speaker 1: of the big time playmakers in the National Football League
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Speaker 1: and they're true number one running back. And I don't
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Speaker 1: think David Montgomery wanted to rotate. But it's concerning for
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Speaker 1: me if I'm if I'm Joe Mixon, because I want
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Speaker 1: to know what's going on with Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon
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Speaker 1: was their captain, one of their best players obviously got
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Speaker 1: banged up.
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Speaker 2: Is still.
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Speaker 1: Kind of ambiguous what happened to Joe Mixon and uh,
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Speaker 1: you know what his future holds with the Houston Texans,
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Speaker 1: But they got some insurance with David Montgomery and everything
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Speaker 1: he brings consistency. He's a good back, He's a premier
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Speaker 1: back and can be a thousand yard running back when
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Speaker 1: he's at his best. Uh, and he gets a new
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Speaker 1: the ball really well, got a quarterback that's that's been
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Speaker 1: up and down and had some struggles as playoffs, but
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Speaker 1: It's combined season, and I know you guys are watching
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Speaker 1: the combine and everybody's like, oh my god, what are
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Speaker 1: these guys doing. There's corners running for three, there's there's
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Speaker 1: the lineman doing well, there's linebackers jumping out the gym,
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Speaker 1: there's everybody's falling in love all over again in combine season,
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Speaker 1: and I love it. You know, some of these players
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Speaker 1: are going to come on going to be really, really
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Speaker 1: good NFL players, but a lot of them are And
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Speaker 1: that's the problem I have with the combine and I
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Speaker 1: think it needs to be revamped and there has to
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Speaker 1: be a better evaluation because the way they're evaluating, the
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Speaker 1: things that they're valuing don't always translate the way people
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Speaker 1: expect them to translate, and it's leading to people being
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Speaker 1: drafted higher than they should be and scrutinized more than
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Speaker 1: they should be. And I think Anthony Richardson is a
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Speaker 1: perfect example of that.
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Speaker 2: You know, his.
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Speaker 1: College tape wasn't really that great, but he went out
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Speaker 1: there and had an incredible combine.
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Speaker 2: Then the hype train got a hold of him.
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Speaker 1: Then he was all of a sudden a top five pick,
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Speaker 1: and now he's not panning out, and now they're giving
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Speaker 1: up on him early because you know, the issues and
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Speaker 1: flaws that were there in college are still there in
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Speaker 1: the league, and so tape has to matter. And then
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Speaker 1: you're getting receiver prospects not running as well as people
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Speaker 1: thought they were supposed to because I think he might
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Speaker 1: have moved his hand a little early or whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: But don't get too caught up in the combine is
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Speaker 1: what I is in my advice. There will be players
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Speaker 1: that perform well that going to have great NFL careers,
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Speaker 1: But a lot of times it's not the fastest guy
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Speaker 1: at the combine. It's not the guy with the greatest
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Speaker 1: score at the combine. A lot of times it's the
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Speaker 1: guy with the best best tape, or a combination of
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Speaker 1: both of great tape and a great combine, and those
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Speaker 1: things marry into great football players.
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Speaker 2: But if one of them is missing, be careful, be cautious.
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Speaker 1: Because Sadiq had a great combine and it looks like,
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Speaker 1: according to everybody, this is going to be the greatest
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Speaker 1: idea and to ever play in the National Football League,
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Speaker 1: But it doesn't always work out that way, and it's
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Speaker 1: not it's not necessarily anybody's fault. It's just football such
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Speaker 1: a such a variable game, and those qualities and traits
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Speaker 1: sometimes make for great football players. But football iq right, situation, injuries,
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Speaker 1: all these things factor in the guys' careers. So That's
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Speaker 1: why I always caution people after combine, because they go
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Speaker 1: from making reasonable picks about, hey, I watched this guy's tape.
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Speaker 1: It looks really good to saying, hey, this guy isn't
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Speaker 1: even a first round Carneal Tait isn't even a first
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Speaker 1: rounder anymore because he ran four or five. And we'll
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Speaker 1: go get the guy that ran four to three. Get
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Speaker 1: the quarterback that's six' six and ran four to three From.
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Speaker 1: Arkansas he can be a. Receiver he could probably be
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Speaker 1: a first round. Receiver and it's it's. Tough it's. Tough
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Speaker 1: football is still played by football players on a football,
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Speaker 1: field and it's not a forty yard. Dash it's not
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Speaker 1: a broad, jump it's not a vertical. Jump it's, football
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Speaker 1: and it's still about running and, hitting catching and, throwing
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Speaker 1: possessing a, ball running the, football all the fundamental things
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Speaker 1: that make this game. Great the combine has a, place
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Speaker 1: but they got to adjust it to football more football
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Speaker 1: specific things that. Translate and what does that look like to?
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Speaker 2: ME i don't.
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Speaker 1: Know maybe there's a mirriage real for. Corners you, know
7:21
Speaker 1: you try not to make it competitive one on ones
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Speaker 1: because that wouldn't make. Sense AND i don't think guys
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Speaker 1: would sign up for, that but you need things that
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Speaker 1: show the guys actual football playing. Strengths is there something
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Speaker 1: that you can show FOOTBALL Iq the ability to see
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Speaker 1: two to one from a, corner, uh the ability to
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Speaker 1: read motions for safety and and call the right. Checks you,
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Speaker 1: know things like that that wouldn't necessarily be the most
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Speaker 1: entertaining for, fans but would be really informative for coaches
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Speaker 1: to see how these players respond in actual football situations that.
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Speaker 1: Translate you, know running the forty doesn't always translate You
8:00
Speaker 1: if you look at the all time forty yard, dash
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Speaker 1: how many Hard hall of famers are you gonna see
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Speaker 1: in the top?
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Speaker 2: Ten not a, ton not a.
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Speaker 1: TON a bunch Of hall of famers are four four
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Speaker 1: fives and four four threes and a couple four, threes
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Speaker 1: and And dion was apparently A fourd two AND i
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Speaker 1: Think Darryl green was a fod to two day and.
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Speaker 1: Night but there's not a ton of guys running four
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Speaker 1: to two that end up being A hall Of famer
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Speaker 1: for four to. Three, now maybe they'll that'll change in
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Speaker 1: the near, future but you, know it just has to
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Speaker 1: change in some. Way and that's my personal. Opinion that's
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Speaker 1: my two cents about, it coming from a guy who
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Speaker 1: went in the fifth.
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Speaker 2: Round who had an alright, combine but had a great football.
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Speaker 1: Career so take take with that what you may take
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Speaker 1: it with a grain of, salt grain of, sand doesn't
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Speaker 1: matter to. Me and it's the off, season so we
8:48
Speaker 1: gotta talk about free. Agency we're gonna start with The
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Speaker 1: Seattle seahawks and their own free. Agents Kenneth Walker, junior
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Speaker 1: THE mvp of The Super, bowl will he'd be back
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Speaker 1: in The blue And green. Eye in my personal, OPINION
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Speaker 1: i think it's gonna be. TOUGH i think it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be tough from the conversation that That John snyder's already
9:11
Speaker 1: had and the things being said on both. Sides money's
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Speaker 1: gonna be an, issue and and the shelf life for
9:19
Speaker 1: a running back isn't very long, here, Fans so stay with,
9:23
Speaker 1: me and stick with, me and and try not to
9:25
Speaker 1: get upset with the player, here because for a running,
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Speaker 1: back it's it's it's hard to get your. Money in,
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Speaker 1: general they're still the position that's whose salary is growing
9:36
Speaker 1: the slowest in regards to the salary cap and how
9:42
Speaker 1: it's grown and how other POSITIONS i, mean receivers are
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Speaker 1: making what almost forty, million forty million dollars now at
9:49
Speaker 1: the top of the. Top cornerbacks are are going going
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Speaker 1: to approach thirty five, million offensive lineman thirty five. Million
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Speaker 1: defense Of vans For micah got forty forty three or,
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Speaker 1: so AND i think there's forty five in, There so
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Speaker 1: you got you gotta really really have patience with a
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Speaker 1: guy when the team is, saying, hey we we're gonna
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Speaker 1: offer you potentially single digit a single digit number per,
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Speaker 1: year and there's a likely scenario that he's offered double
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Speaker 1: digits literally everywhere, else you. KNOW i think The Kansas
10:30
Speaker 1: City chiefs are desperate for a running back that can
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Speaker 1: be a game changer and. DYNAMIC i think he'd be
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Speaker 1: a huge difference maker in that. Offense there's a number
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Speaker 1: of offenses around the league that could use speed and
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Speaker 1: explosiveness at the running back, position and The seahawks gave
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Speaker 1: a proven formula that, hey if you take some of
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Speaker 1: the carries off of him early in the, season he
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Speaker 1: can continue to be productive and strong throughout the off,
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Speaker 1: season throughout the, postseason and throughout late in the regular.
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Speaker 1: Season he literally got stronger as he went on later
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Speaker 1: in the. Year but right, now the top running back
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Speaker 1: Is Sakwon barkley at twenty point six per year with
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Speaker 1: thirty six million. Guaranteed DO i Think Kenneth walker will
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Speaker 1: get twenty million a? Year, NO i. Don't but DO
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Speaker 1: i think fourteen to fifteen million dollars is not a
11:26
Speaker 1: question for?
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Speaker 2: Him?
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Speaker 1: YEAH i think fourteen to fifteen million dollars probably gets
11:30
Speaker 1: it done for a team who wants, him maybe with
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Speaker 1: thirty five thirty eight guaranteed somewhere around. There SO i
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Speaker 1: THINK i think it's gonna be tough for The Seattle
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Speaker 1: seahawks to really justify paying him when they got to
11:45
Speaker 1: Pay Jackson smith And jig but top of the market
11:47
Speaker 1: money they got to. Pay they just Paid Charles cross good,
11:51
Speaker 1: money they Paid Abe, Lucas they're gonna Pay Devin witherspoon top.
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Speaker 1: Money and so you got two guys who we're gonna
12:00
Speaker 1: take up more than more than likely seventy seventy five
12:05
Speaker 1: million dollars per. Season between those those two, guys it's
12:09
Speaker 1: gonna be tough to retain guys Like Kenneth. Walker and
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Speaker 1: then you go forward and you look At Rashid shaheed
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Speaker 1: in his. Situation i'm not sure he comes back just
12:20
Speaker 1: because of the usage rate that he had with The Seattle,
12:23
Speaker 1: seahawks not that he's he's a number one, receiver, obviously
12:28
Speaker 1: you gotta get a lot of targets To Jackson smith And.
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Speaker 1: Jigba but he had quadruple the amount of catches with
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Speaker 1: The New Orleans. Saints he had forty four receptions in
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Speaker 1: nine games with The saints and nine games with The.
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Speaker 1: Seahawks during the regular, season he had Fifteen as a.
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Speaker 1: Receiver and the way they think and the way they're,
12:45
Speaker 1: built you got to touch the, rock and a guy
12:48
Speaker 1: who was used to touching it a lot more is
12:51
Speaker 1: gonna want to touch it a lot, more and it.
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Speaker 2: May be more valued other.
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Speaker 1: Places other teams may look at him and, say, hey
12:59
Speaker 1: we know what you can we know how explosive you can,
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Speaker 1: be and may offer him more money than The seahawks
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Speaker 1: are willing to pay, him just because of the explosiveness
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Speaker 1: that he's shown both in the return game and as a.
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Speaker 2: Receiver With New.
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Speaker 1: Orleans, now he showed some of it with The Seattle,
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Speaker 1: seahawks but it just seemed disconnected for some reason in my.
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Speaker 1: OPINION i don't know If kubiak just didn't feel like
13:26
Speaker 1: he wanted to take those targets away FROM jscn or
13:30
Speaker 1: if he wanted to break the dolphinse uff like. That
13:32
Speaker 1: but in the playoffs you saw how explosive he could have. Been,
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Speaker 1: Obviously Christian gonzales made an incredible play in The Super,
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Speaker 1: bowl but that would have been another. Explosive he had
13:43
Speaker 1: an explosive in THE Nfc Championship game. EARLY i think
13:46
Speaker 1: it was first drive of the, game explosive pass to
13:48
Speaker 1: start that game and put The seahawks in scoring. Position
13:51
Speaker 1: so he shows he can get it. Done the issue
13:58
Speaker 1: THAT i think for The seahawks is he got there
14:03
Speaker 1: in the middle of the. Season he didn't have time
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Speaker 1: to grow a rapport and people don't understand how important
14:11
Speaker 1: training camp is in a receiver building a rapport with,
14:14
Speaker 1: quarterback and so.
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Speaker 2: They. Didn't they didn't.
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Speaker 1: Jail like they probably would have if they would have
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Speaker 1: had the full off. Season, now what is his price
14:23
Speaker 1: tag gonna? Be and that's that's the ONE i really can't.
14:26
Speaker 1: Pay how are people categorizing him because even number two
14:31
Speaker 1: receivers in The National Football.
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Speaker 2: League.
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Speaker 1: Not that HE'S T, higgins BUT T higgins is at
14:39
Speaker 1: twenty five or twenty six million dollars a. Year so
14:42
Speaker 1: as at number, two it's STILL i, mean it may
14:44
Speaker 1: be approaching high teens for a guy Like rashid shah heat,
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Speaker 1: POTENTIALLY i don't, know especially with the return game as a.
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Speaker 1: Factor he's not a bad, receiver AND i know people are,
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Speaker 1: like he hasn't put up crazy. Numbers he's been on
14:58
Speaker 1: Some New orleans teams that that haven't necessarily been GREAT
15:01
Speaker 1: uh and he's been on them. Consistently and he does
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Speaker 1: have a huge impact in the special teams, game which
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Speaker 1: he's shown.
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Speaker 2: Shown he won at least three games.
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Speaker 1: For The Seattle SEAHAWKS uh this season with his with
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Speaker 1: his return, GAME i THINK i want to say the
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Speaker 1: first the Second rams game is the one that comes to.
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Speaker 1: Mind he had a huge punt return for a touchdown
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Speaker 1: that really turned the momentum in that game and brought
15:24
Speaker 1: The seahawks roaring BACK uh and and and started their
15:28
Speaker 1: comeback be it in that, game AND i think that
15:32
Speaker 1: value can't be. Understated but, AGAIN i don't think The
15:35
Speaker 1: Seattle seahawks really make a huge play for. HIM i,
15:38
Speaker 1: think you, know even if he doesn't come back and
15:40
Speaker 1: play another, down with The Seattle. Seahawks the impact that
15:43
Speaker 1: he made during The Super bowl season is. PROFOUND i
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Speaker 1: think he was worth the. TRADE i Think John snyder
15:49
Speaker 1: made it an incredible, move AND i think everybody's happy in.
15:52
Speaker 1: THAT i think The seahawks are. HAPPY i Think New
15:55
Speaker 1: orleans is. HAPPY i think where She schehet is. HAPPY
15:58
Speaker 1: i think The seahawks fans are happy and every. Wins
16:00
Speaker 1: BUT i don't think with what how free agency can
16:05
Speaker 1: go and how the bidding wars can. GO i don't
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Speaker 1: See John snyder getting involved in a bidding war For
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Speaker 1: Rashid shaheit Unless rashid is just, like, HEY i want
16:12
Speaker 1: to come back To seattle And i'm willing to take
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Speaker 1: a lot less and these people are willing to give.
16:16
Speaker 1: Me and that's not usually how it goes. People i'm
16:19
Speaker 1: sorry it's. Not but, potentially and especially for a guy
16:23
Speaker 1: who hasn't made a ton of, money it's not like
16:25
Speaker 1: he's coming off of huge deals and he's he's gotten
16:29
Speaker 1: pig time pay days and he's, like, HEY i made my.
16:31
Speaker 1: Money i'm just trying to win and be. Consistent these
16:35
Speaker 1: guys got to make as much money as they can
16:36
Speaker 1: while they. CAN i know everybody's always happy to hear
16:39
Speaker 1: team friendly and things like.
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Speaker 2: That but in this day and, age in this, economy
16:45
Speaker 2: it's hard to be team.
16:46
Speaker 1: Friendly. Baby the Salary caps had three hundred, million and
16:51
Speaker 1: for a running back who may have you, know, six, six,
16:58
Speaker 1: seven maybe eight good year years in, him to take
17:01
Speaker 1: our team friendly, deal that'll take him four or five
17:04
Speaker 1: million dollars a year off of what he could potentially
17:07
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19:04
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19:08
Speaker 1: uh at least late in the season and throughout the
19:11
Speaker 1: season that as soon as they can get rid of,
19:13
Speaker 1: him they're getting rid of. Him where he, Goes i'm not.
19:17
Speaker 1: Sure i'm not sure how his market. Goes he hasn't
19:19
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19:22
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19:32
Speaker 1: uh you, KNOW I i still think He's he's on
19:35
Speaker 1: a one year proved deal for potentially The Washington commanders
19:39
Speaker 1: because he's been rumored there for a number of. Reasons
19:43
Speaker 1: Adam peters said he loves the. PLAYER i mean he
19:46
Speaker 1: loves the. Person can't comment on the player at the. Combine,
19:49
Speaker 1: Uh so there's a relationship. There obviously he came From San. Francisco,
19:53
Speaker 1: uh there's a relationship with With jade And daniels and
19:55
Speaker 1: so that that's an, obvious uh obvious spot that that
20:00
Speaker 1: people think he. Lands there's a lot of places that
20:02
Speaker 1: need receiver. Help and you, know at his, best he could.
20:06
Speaker 1: Play he can move, well he can catch the ball in,
20:09
Speaker 1: Traffic he's a good. Receiver, obviously things didn't end well
20:14
Speaker 1: In San, francisco and so.
20:18
Speaker 2: It's to be seen to be, seen you.
20:20
Speaker 1: Know it's it's a unique situation that we haven't seen
20:23
Speaker 1: very often where a guy kind of goes mia on
20:26
Speaker 1: the team who's getting paid thirty million dollars a year
20:30
Speaker 1: and says he doesn't want to play for that team,
20:32
Speaker 1: anymore and the team, says, hey we don't, understand but
20:35
Speaker 1: we're gonna take you. Guarantee it's just an odd, situation unfortunate,
20:38
Speaker 1: situation but we'll see how it plays. Out Juwan, jennings
20:42
Speaker 1: could he potentially get a, nice nice chuck fifteen to
20:47
Speaker 1: sixty million dollar deal similar to what we were talking
20:50
Speaker 1: about For Rashichia, Heat no question about. It there's some
20:53
Speaker 1: teams out there that would pay him that kind of
20:57
Speaker 1: money and he deserves. It he deserve. It he can
20:59
Speaker 1: play football at a high. Level he's played big in
21:01
Speaker 1: the biggest. Games he would have been Super BOWL mvp
21:03
Speaker 1: At San francisco forty nine ers beat The Kansas City
21:06
Speaker 1: chiefs a couple of years. AGO a guy that does
21:10
Speaker 1: things the right, way plays, hard, plays do, injury tough,
21:14
Speaker 1: player great, hands just just does things the right. Way
21:16
Speaker 1: SO i expect him to get get his get his.
21:18
Speaker 1: Payday deservedly. So could he potentially come back To San, Francisco,
21:22
Speaker 1: yeah BUT i think it's a long. SHOT i think
21:24
Speaker 1: it's a long. Shot another guy that's been been linked
21:29
Speaker 1: To San francisco forty nine, Ers Mike. EVANS i DON'T
21:35
Speaker 1: i don't really see that. Happening he, Says he says
21:39
Speaker 1: he needs to go to a place with these. Criteria
21:42
Speaker 1: it WAS, qb he believes, in chance at a Super,
21:44
Speaker 1: bowl top shelf offensive, coordinator high valume. Touches Now San
21:48
Speaker 1: FRANCISCO uh checks off a lot of those, boxes but
21:52
Speaker 1: the high value. TOUCHES i think he's gonna have a
21:54
Speaker 1: hard time finding in This National Football league just because
21:58
Speaker 1: of the point he is he's at in his, career
22:00
Speaker 1: in the criteria that he's looking. For you A qb
22:03
Speaker 1: you believe, in and a chance at a Super, bowl
22:06
Speaker 1: top shelf offensive, coordinator those are. There there are only
22:10
Speaker 1: a few places with all those, things and you're usually
22:12
Speaker 1: not getting high value touches when you get. THERE i
22:16
Speaker 1: think The Kansas City chiefs are are a destination that
22:18
Speaker 1: makes sense for, him but, again high value, touches that's that's.
22:23
Speaker 1: Debatable and Then Patrick mahomes is coming off a major knee.
22:26
Speaker 1: Injury i'm not. Sure i'm not sure if that if
22:29
Speaker 1: that would make sense for him With Patrick, mahons not
22:32
Speaker 1: with the uncertainty Surrounding Patrick mahomes right.
22:35
Speaker 2: Now do you believe in IN. C. J stroud and
22:40
Speaker 2: what he's put on?
22:41
Speaker 1: Tape you? Know is he a guy that you think
22:44
Speaker 1: is A qb that he believes? IN i can't answer that.
22:46
Speaker 1: Question but a defense that gives you a chance at
22:49
Speaker 1: A Super?
22:49
Speaker 2: Bowl?
22:50
Speaker 1: Uh you, know is it a top shelf offensive? Coordinator you,
22:53
Speaker 1: know to be, debated h could you get high valume? Touches?
22:59
Speaker 3: Not?
22:59
Speaker 1: Really Would Nico collins? There you Know Nico collins is,
23:02
Speaker 1: There he'll get most of the. Touches you guys are
23:05
Speaker 1: kind of a similarly built. Receivers but it'd be a
23:07
Speaker 1: matchup nightmare for defenses for. Sure the other really good
23:13
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this. League Is buffalo a chance for you
23:16
Speaker 1: at A Super? Bowl i'm not. SURE i think their
23:19
Speaker 1: best chance was last season when when none of the
23:21
Speaker 1: quarterbacks were, there you, know and there was No Lamar,
23:24
Speaker 1: jackson there was No Patrick, mahomes there was No Joe
23:27
Speaker 1: burrow in THE, afc and you would thought you would
23:30
Speaker 1: have thought that's the year That Josh allen could make
23:32
Speaker 1: it to The Super, bowl he made it to THE Afc,
23:35
Speaker 1: championship or he made it to The divisional and it
23:40
Speaker 1: mostly you, know it was controversial HOW i went. Down
23:43
Speaker 1: we're not gonna argue and relitigate that, game but probably
23:47
Speaker 1: should have made it to the Super bowl that, season
23:51
Speaker 1: And Bo knicks gets hurt at the end of that
23:52
Speaker 1: game and the rest is. History BUT i also think
23:55
Speaker 1: The Seattle seahawks and the forty Nine, ERS i, mean
23:59
Speaker 1: they all could be in play, here but it just
24:01
Speaker 1: depends on a kind of money that he's willing to
24:03
Speaker 1: take and and taking a bit of a back. Seat you,
24:07
Speaker 1: know those those teams have established. Guys what forty nine
24:11
Speaker 1: ers don't have an established, guy he'd be the established guy.
24:13
Speaker 1: There it's just not a lot of targets going to
24:15
Speaker 1: be coming his. Way And Kyle shanahan kind of spreads
24:19
Speaker 1: the ball out whoever's. Open he's not really focused on one.
24:22
Speaker 1: Receiver AND i think that was one of the things
24:24
Speaker 1: that kind of Rubbed brandon AND i you threw wrong,
24:26
Speaker 1: way Is, Hey i'm not being featured in the WAY
24:28
Speaker 1: i THOUGHT i should be, Featured And i'm gonna be
24:31
Speaker 1: a little frustrated with. That and and that's just how
24:34
Speaker 1: they run. Offense you, know it's, productive it's winning, football
24:37
Speaker 1: but it's not it's not receiver friendly. Necessarily but those
24:42
Speaker 1: are PLACES i think he could potentially. Go he could
24:44
Speaker 1: also potentially go back To Tampa bay if things aren't,
24:47
Speaker 1: perfect if things aren't ideal, ELSEWHERE i think he could
24:50
Speaker 1: come back To Tampa.
24:51
Speaker 2: Bay and and and things be.
24:53
Speaker 1: Fine another big time free agent might be the biggest
24:58
Speaker 1: free agent this offseason.
24:59
Speaker 2: Is molik Will. Willis.
25:00
Speaker 1: Uh it seemed Like LeFleur did a great job of
25:04
Speaker 1: fixing the issues that he, had And Malik willis responded,
25:07
Speaker 1: well really productive and efficient and the times that he
25:11
Speaker 1: was out there and had a chance to play the
25:14
Speaker 1: last couple of, seasons the potential landing spots for him Are.
25:18
Speaker 1: Arizona with the uncertainty of what they're gonna do With Kyler,
25:22
Speaker 1: murray they're trying to trade. Him the only problem with
25:24
Speaker 1: we're trying to trade somebody is there got to be
25:26
Speaker 1: somebody willing to trade for. Him is that Is Kyler
25:29
Speaker 1: murray a player that that a team wants to sign up.
25:32
Speaker 1: FOR i think that all depends on the price tag
25:35
Speaker 1: and and how much. Compensation, uh they're gonna they're gonna
25:40
Speaker 1: want to trade for. Him obviously he's a really explosive,
25:43
Speaker 1: player been productive in this, league but there's a lot
25:48
Speaker 1: of uncertainty surrounding his. Preparation, uh you, know his leadership. Ability,
25:55
Speaker 1: uh the kind of team maye. Is things like that
25:58
Speaker 1: that make it risky for team to, say, hey we're
26:00
Speaker 1: going to invest in a second or third round pick
26:03
Speaker 1: for a guy like. That but who. Knows this league
26:06
Speaker 1: is kind of crazy in that. Way The Dolphins Jeff,
26:09
Speaker 1: haffley who was a defensive coordinator In Green bay Where
26:13
Speaker 1: Malik willis, was they're moving on from to a tongue
26:15
Speaker 1: Of ailoa is the conversation that we've heard obviously trying
26:19
Speaker 1: to trade for. Him unlikely to trade a quarterback with
26:22
Speaker 1: with that kind of price tag who hasn't necessarily been
26:27
Speaker 1: seen as successful outside Of mike McDaniel's. System maybe there's
26:31
Speaker 1: a team that, says, hey we, can we, can we
26:34
Speaker 1: can do something with. That we can we don't have
26:37
Speaker 1: a quarterback right, now and we can make something shake with.
26:40
Speaker 1: That BUT i don't see a team trading for his
26:42
Speaker 1: salary and making him a franchise quarterback right. Now Obviously
26:45
Speaker 1: mike McDaniel is now in IN la with The chargers
26:49
Speaker 1: And Justin herbert and going to try to work his
26:51
Speaker 1: magic with, him but.
26:54
Speaker 2: Could.
26:55
Speaker 1: Couldn't Could Malik willis go With Jeff haffley to The
26:59
Speaker 1: Miami dolphins can get a pay? DAY i think. SO
27:03
Speaker 1: i think him understanding what he has and what he
27:08
Speaker 1: was able to do and how he functions in this.
27:11
Speaker 1: Offense him going with his offensive, coordinator having the same
27:14
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator From Green bay with him and And miami helps,
27:20
Speaker 1: out AND i think that's a that's an ideal landing
27:23
Speaker 1: spot for. Him obviously there's, talent Uh AND i mean
27:27
Speaker 1: they're getting rid Of Tyreek, keel which is which is
27:29
Speaker 1: a little bit, crazy which changes the dynamic of that offense.
27:31
Speaker 1: Dramatically BUT i Think Jeff hafley is going to do
27:34
Speaker 1: a great job putting together a really good, defense having
27:36
Speaker 1: a good, plan a good running game and devon at
27:39
Speaker 1: chain and and they'll get more. Receivers i'm sure they'll draft,
27:43
Speaker 1: well and they'll they'll be more competitive than they were this.
27:47
Speaker 1: Year and if they if they give him the same
27:51
Speaker 1: uh kind of guardrails that he had In Green.
27:54
Speaker 2: Bay he could be.
27:54
Speaker 1: Successful he was, efficient he was, Smart he made plays
27:57
Speaker 1: with his, legs made the right plays with his, arms
27:59
Speaker 1: push the ball down the. Field SO i think there's
28:03
Speaker 1: a potential marriage there For Malik. Willis other potential release,
28:12
Speaker 1: rumors people are Saying Aaron jones is potentially out in In,
28:17
Speaker 1: Minnesota Javon hargraves as, Well Geno smith with The, Raiders
28:21
Speaker 1: Kirk cousins with The, Falcons Kyler murray with The. Cardinals
28:25
Speaker 1: all those makes, sense some of them for cap, reasons
28:28
Speaker 1: some of them for performance. Reasons Kirk cousins didn't didn't
28:33
Speaker 1: pan out the way he people probably thought he should.
28:36
Speaker 1: Have In, ATLANTA i thought it was a crazy move
28:39
Speaker 1: when they drafted a quarterback And pennis at nine overall
28:43
Speaker 1: and and paid him fifty. MILLION i thought that was
28:46
Speaker 1: a that was a disastrous. Move now they're potentially getting
28:49
Speaker 1: rid Of Kirk cousins and Saying penix may not be
28:52
Speaker 1: the answer In.
28:53
Speaker 2: Atlanta that's kind of. Crazy that's kind of. Crazy that's
28:56
Speaker 2: just a.
28:56
Speaker 1: Disaster but that's how the the general manager gets loses
29:00
Speaker 1: his job and the head coach loses his job because
29:03
Speaker 1: of a decision like, that which is which is inevitable
29:05
Speaker 1: if that doesn't go the way you think it should.
29:07
Speaker 1: Go BUT i and one, weird crazy thing THAT i
29:11
Speaker 1: think could potentially happen if The San francisco forty nine
29:16
Speaker 1: ers Trade Mac, jones WHICH i think is unlikely unless
29:19
Speaker 1: a team is just desperate and a team like The
29:22
Speaker 1: Minnesota vikings who have uncertainty at the quarterback, spot say,
29:26
Speaker 1: hey we're gonna Make Mac jones our, guy and we're
29:29
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna go all in for, him and we
29:32
Speaker 1: believe a high second round pick in the. Player is?
29:37
Speaker 1: That is that? Enough depends on the, PLAYER i, guess
29:40
Speaker 1: or a high caliber player for a for A Mac,
29:45
Speaker 1: JONES i think The San francisco forty nine ers move
29:48
Speaker 1: move him for a really high, price something that they
29:51
Speaker 1: just can't can't say no to an offer they can't.
29:54
Speaker 1: REFUSE i think that's the only way they get rid
29:56
Speaker 1: of Mac. Jones but if they do get that, offer
29:59
Speaker 1: and they do move on from Mac jones and and
30:01
Speaker 1: and send him To minnesota Or New, york, UH i
30:07
Speaker 1: Think Kirk cousins is a viable. Option and anybody who's
30:11
Speaker 1: Followed Kyle shanahan or, Followed Kirk cousins knows that there's
30:15
Speaker 1: THERE'S uh symbiosis and there's a good relationship, there AND
30:19
Speaker 1: i Think kyle would feel very comfortable With Kirk cousins
30:21
Speaker 1: as the BACKUP uh To Brock purdy going forward if
30:25
Speaker 1: if they happen to lose Mac. Jones, obviously these are
30:28
Speaker 1: a lot of what if, scenarios BUT i think that's
30:31
Speaker 1: a situation that that should be. Watched if Mac jones
30:35
Speaker 1: does get TRADED uh and and The San francisco for
30:40
Speaker 1: nineers getting offer they can't, refuse it would make sense
30:43
Speaker 1: on on off. Fronts not That, Hey Kirk cousins is
30:45
Speaker 1: gonna ask for a ton of. Money He's Kirk Kirk
30:48
Speaker 1: cousins has made a ton of. Money he's he's he's
30:50
Speaker 1: hall of fame in that, Regard hall of, fame money,
30:54
Speaker 1: maker and this in The National Football league and and
30:58
Speaker 1: in the business of, football as they. Say BUT i
31:02
Speaker 1: think that the Way Kyle shanahan works and how highly
31:06
Speaker 1: he thinks That Kirk, cousins and how Well Kirk cousins
31:09
Speaker 1: has played Under Kyle, SHANAHAN i think that's a situation
31:13
Speaker 1: that would make. Sense he's also played well Under kevin
31:15
Speaker 1: O'Connell for those few years that they were.
31:18
Speaker 2: Together it makes sense to, me AND i think it'll
31:22
Speaker 2: make sense To.
31:22
Speaker 1: Kyle and obviously they think a young quarterback would be
31:27
Speaker 1: in the mix somewhere in, there BUT i think he
31:30
Speaker 1: always wants a veteran backup that if things go awry
31:34
Speaker 1: like they did last. Season obviously they would never want
31:36
Speaker 1: this scenario that they had last season Where Brock purty
31:39
Speaker 1: misses them amount of games that he, missed but if they,
31:42
Speaker 1: did they want a competent backup that could come in
31:45
Speaker 1: there and still win them games and keep them on.
31:47
Speaker 1: Track and that's what Mac jones was able to. Do
31:49
Speaker 1: AND i think they would think That Kirk. Cousins, Obviously
31:52
Speaker 1: Kirk cousins struggled last, year let's not let's not forget,
31:55
Speaker 1: That but Within kyle shanahan, SYSTEM i think he would
31:58
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with. Him, SO i, mean you guys can
32:01
Speaker 1: feel how you want About Kirk, cousins BUT i Think
32:03
Speaker 1: Kyle shanahan likes. HIM i, think you, know if Mac
32:06
Speaker 1: jones is, gone that's a feasible move For Kyle shanahan
32:10
Speaker 1: that makes sense for a low. PRICE i don't Think
32:13
Speaker 1: kirk's gonna be looking for a ton of. Money but
32:15
Speaker 1: he is a guy that is familiar with something we're
32:18
Speaker 1: about to talk, about and that's the franchise tag Because
32:21
Speaker 1: kirk was under a lot of franchise tags and made
32:23
Speaker 1: a lot of money doing. It and there's been a
32:26
Speaker 1: lot of discourse about the franchise tag this all. Season
32:29
Speaker 1: George pickens just got franchise. Tag Kyle pitts got franchise.
32:32
Speaker 1: Tags are those good? MOVES i think those are great,
32:35
Speaker 1: moves and different players react different ways to. It it
32:40
Speaker 1: seems Like George pickens is excited about. IT i would
32:42
Speaker 1: Expect Kyle pitts to be excited about. IT i, mean
32:45
Speaker 1: it secures you with that team. Continues the negotiation shows
32:48
Speaker 1: the team values. You but it's a weapon for teams
32:53
Speaker 1: to keep guys and to prevent guys from getting the free.
32:57
Speaker 1: Agency AND i hear so many people out there, saying oh,
33:01
Speaker 1: man THE, nflpa you got to get rid of. That
33:03
Speaker 1: and they got. Tricked and every time that that lives,
33:06
Speaker 1: on they're getting they're getting tricked into a.
33:08
Speaker 2: Deal, no they're, not like you know how leverage.
33:12
Speaker 1: WORKS i, mean let me explain to you something in
33:15
Speaker 1: order for THE, nflpa which is the, players which is the.
33:19
Speaker 1: Players there are players negotiating these. Deals to get rid
33:25
Speaker 1: of the franchise, tag the players would have to be
33:29
Speaker 1: willing to show THE nfl and the thirty two owners
33:33
Speaker 1: of these teams that they are willing to exercise their
33:39
Speaker 1: ultimate like emergency nuke, Button and that's missing games show
33:47
Speaker 1: solidarity that, hey we will change the whole landscape of
33:51
Speaker 1: all YOUR tv deals in everything you do by collectively
33:56
Speaker 1: coming together and, deciding, hey we're not going to show
33:59
Speaker 1: up One. Sunday that's pretty much. It outside of, that.
34:06
Speaker 2: What leverage do the players?
34:08
Speaker 1: Have AND i was a part of THE, nflpa AND
34:10
Speaker 1: i was a part of these, negotiations AND i set
34:13
Speaker 1: in these meetings with the owners back and forth negotiating
34:16
Speaker 1: cbas what leverage do you have for a group that
34:25
Speaker 1: is getting paid either? Way they have negotiated with THESE
34:29
Speaker 1: tv rights deals and with these with these networks where
34:35
Speaker 1: the networks are going to pay them and then the
34:37
Speaker 1: money's going to be split with the.
34:39
Speaker 2: Players so.
34:41
Speaker 1: In order to harm them like they got they got
34:45
Speaker 1: money in hand and the players do. Not the players
34:49
Speaker 1: need the money to be paid by those people with
34:51
Speaker 1: the money in, hand and that's why the collective bargaining
34:53
Speaker 1: agreement is. There and maybe college needs to move to
34:56
Speaker 1: a to a version of, that but that's a story
34:58
Speaker 1: for a different.
34:59
Speaker 2: Day but.
35:01
Speaker 1: In order to take something like the franchise tag away
35:07
Speaker 1: from teams who really value, it and it only affects
35:10
Speaker 1: four or, five maybe six guys a, year if, that you,
35:14
Speaker 1: know on a high, year it's not. Affecting it's not
35:17
Speaker 1: in a league of twenty one hundred players or so
35:20
Speaker 1: or twenty five hundred depending on the time of the.
35:23
Speaker 1: Year something that affects six is gonna be a hard
35:29
Speaker 1: thing to sell to the other twenty four twenty four
35:34
Speaker 1: ninety six or twenty four ninety. Four, like you can't
35:38
Speaker 1: sell something that doesn't affect the majority of the. Players
35:42
Speaker 1: and you could, say, oh it affects everybody because it
35:45
Speaker 1: limits how high the top get. Paid, no it, doesn't
35:48
Speaker 1: because guys get to free, agency and a lot of
35:50
Speaker 1: these guys negotiate before they ever get to free, agency
35:53
Speaker 1: really high. Deals but, again if the players felt that
35:56
Speaker 1: strongly about, it then they would, say, hey, guys we
35:59
Speaker 1: got to come together and we gotta change, this and we,
36:02
Speaker 1: gotta we, gotta we gotta, exercise all, right and show them, that,
36:06
Speaker 1: hey we could come together and work together.
36:09
Speaker 2: As one.
36:12
Speaker 1: One, mind one one, word one, team and that would
36:19
Speaker 1: show the let the, Owners, hey these players aren't to
36:21
Speaker 1: be messed. With, hey we gotta we gotta negotiate that. Way,
36:25
Speaker 1: hey they they are partners and the, league for the most,
36:28
Speaker 1: part to their, credit negotiate that. Way they moved that,
36:33
Speaker 1: way like they they negotiate fair deals with that. Way
36:38
Speaker 1: it's a FAIR i guess nobody's always. Happy everybody's not always,
36:42
Speaker 1: happy but they negotiate deals that that that, work and
36:51
Speaker 1: nobody's happy at the. End nobody's nobody's too happy about
36:54
Speaker 1: how things. Went nobody's too frustrated about how things. Went
36:57
Speaker 1: but in order for the players to move the owners
37:00
Speaker 1: off of the spot that they're, on which is an
37:03
Speaker 1: immense amount of leverage that they have because they don't
37:06
Speaker 1: believe that the the the players will shoot the bullet
37:09
Speaker 1: they have in their. Gun and if they and if
37:12
Speaker 1: you're if you're negotiating with with no bullets in the,
37:16
Speaker 1: gun then it's a tough negotiation to. Have so every
37:19
Speaker 1: TIME i hear people, say, oh the players should get
37:21
Speaker 1: rid of the franchise tag players should should. Negotiate they're
37:24
Speaker 1: doing a bad job because they won't get rid of
37:26
Speaker 1: the franchise. Tag explain to me how they do. It, please,
37:30
Speaker 1: Please as somebody who's been in those, meetings it doesn't
37:32
Speaker 1: go how you think it. Goes and and it's easy
37:37
Speaker 1: to speak from a from a from your couch or
37:40
Speaker 1: from from in front of your. Screen you, know it's
37:44
Speaker 1: not easy to speak when you're sitting there negotiating with
37:46
Speaker 1: them and you're going back and forth and you're, arguing
37:48
Speaker 1: and you're sitting there going back to your players having
37:51
Speaker 1: conversations with, them and they're not, agreeing and they're, saying,
37:54
Speaker 1: HEY i don't want to miss. GAMES i don't want
37:55
Speaker 1: to miss. CHECKS i can't afford to do. That i'm
37:57
Speaker 1: not doing. That we're not doing, that, MAN i want
37:59
Speaker 1: to just sign A d. Like it's much different conversation
38:04
Speaker 1: that people think it. Is SO i JUST i that
38:07
Speaker 1: discourse just gets frustrating to me because it's not rooted in. Facts,
38:11
Speaker 1: fundamentally it's not something where they people understand the dynamics
38:17
Speaker 1: between THE nfl and the, players and something is missing
38:22
Speaker 1: internally where there's oh, man they missed this great. Point,
38:25
Speaker 1: no they. Didn't, no they. Didn't the only person that
38:29
Speaker 1: missed the point is the people not in the, room
38:31
Speaker 1: the people that don't understand the leverage points in. This
38:34
Speaker 1: so at the end of the, day that's WHERE i
38:36
Speaker 1: stand on. IT i know it's not the most fun,
38:38
Speaker 1: point but it is what it. Is the franchise tag
38:41
Speaker 1: isn't going. Anywhere the league will not let it go,
38:43
Speaker 1: anywhere and unless something drastically changes in that, regard it
38:49
Speaker 1: is what it, is and it's just a necessary evil
38:51
Speaker 1: that the players got to deal, with and that's. Fine
38:55
Speaker 1: but that's the end of my. Show as, ALWAYS i
38:58
Speaker 1: appreciate you joining. Me you could be anywhere in the,
39:00
Speaker 1: world but you hear with, me AND i greatly appreciate.
39:02
Speaker 1: It thank you so. Much AS i said, before stay
39:06
Speaker 1: tuned for all season. News we're going to have a
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Speaker 1: couple guests this. Week it's gonna be a fun all.
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Speaker 1: Season we're gonna finally have a few of Those broncos
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Speaker 1: on to see what they're talking about this whole secondary
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Speaker 1: debate that really isn't a debate at.
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Speaker 2: All see you next.
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Speaker 1: Time