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One Piece, 368-370 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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This is an unspoiled network podcast. This is spoil Me, covering One Piece
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episodes three sixty eight, three sixty nine, Nice, and three seventy,
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The Silent Assault, the mysterious visitor Tyrant Kuma, Oars plus Maria, the
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most heinous combination of brains and braun, and the secret plan to turn the
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Tables Nightmare. Lufy makes his appearance in these episodes. We have got a
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hollow Oars that's just being fucking piloted like he's some kind of blimp. We've
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got Lufy, who it turns out, can take shadows in even though he
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has a soul already, and we have a suppress rising number of ineffective attacks
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on Oars. I really thought something was gonna work, and so far we
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haven't got much. Welcome to spoil Me, Welcome to the show everyone.
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I am Natasha. Thank you very much to the One Piece crew for commissioning
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this episode. What's up everybody? Thank you all so much for joining me.
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I just want to say right out of the gate, I am still
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really really loving this arc. I am still stunned that there are people who
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do not like it. I genuinely do not know like I there is a
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bunch of problematic shiit mixed in here. Don't get me wrong, but honestly,
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the goofiness of it is so over the top, and I just I'm
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like waiting for a shoe to drop. I'm sort of feeling like, is
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there something in the end of this arc that makes it so that you retroactively
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don't like it as much? Because I don't get it? What is wrong
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with everyone? If you are listening and you're not a fan of this arc,
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explain yourself, Explain yourself. I want to know, I really do.
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I'm not even like trying to be confrontational because there's so many other arcs
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that I feel like have less to offer, and this is just a good
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time. It's just rollicking. Also, I want to mention for those of
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you who are into that kind of thing. Gabby commissioned all of the first
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season of the live action of One Piece, which I believe is coming out
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in like a month or so. Currently it is June sixth. I think
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it's coming out in July, and I am not going to be able to
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begin coverage on it until I think like September. I'll double check that,
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but it is pretty exciting to me that I'm going to get to cover the
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live action, because I was already going to resist watching it when it came
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out on the off chance that somebody would commission it. But there have been
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a lot of times where I have done that. I've held back because I'm
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trying to be like available for commission for a certain thing that has gotten a
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little bit of buzz and people have expressed interest, and then nobody commissions it,
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and I just sit there not having watched the thing that I would really
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like to watch. So I'm pretty excited that at this point I am guaranteed,
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even though when it comes out, I'm still going to have to hold
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back a little bit, but I'm guaranteed that I'm going to get to watch
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it, and that makes me really happy. So thank you for that,
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Gabby. October, my bad. I won't be able to cover it until
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October. The first day of recording for that will be October twelfth, and
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I have a lot of pre bookings for other things before that, so the
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one piece crew tried to prebook, but I am booked well into November at
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this point. So yeah, I was trying to resist doing that because I
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recognize that it's sort of me taking a loan against myself when I like accept
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payment for something so far in advance, but frankly, I need the money
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so bad lately, and I am I have all the time in the world.
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I don't see myself stop and doing this anytime soon, So you know,
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I guess let's just go for it, all right. So the Silent
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Assault the Mysterious Visitor Tyrant Kuma, by far, of the three, in
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my opinion, the most boring episode. I think that it's got to do
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a lot with the fact that Kuma doesn't seem all that interesting. Like initially,
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I was pretty excited by the fact that he seems a lot less intimidating
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than I originally thought, and I was sort of hoping that we were going
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to be able to like get a bit more about him in a personal sense,
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and we don't really get that. I was waiting for it, you
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know, the fact that he keeps asking, like, where would you go
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on a vacation? If you could go anywhere. It's a funny bit,
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but it's just we're just doing the exact same thing again, And I wanted
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us to expand the bit a little bit. I said, bit a lot
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I'm sorry. So anyway, the whole thing with him too, like essentially
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all he's here for is to deliver the news to Maria that he himself has
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come to assist in case Maria finds himself unequal to the task of dealing with
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the straw Hat pirates. And Maria is really really offended, like just genuinely
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so disgusted that this is how little they estimate he can contribute. And as
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far as he is concerned, it's sona. You know, I've got his
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shadow. I put it in what do you call it? I put it
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in ors? What is it? Number nine hundred? Is that the name
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of the zombie? And so even though there is still possibility because Lucy's running
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around that they can purify oars, of course for reasons that I think are
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pretty obviously just ego, Maria has no consideration for that happening. There is
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that just it's not it's not I think he would say, it's straight up
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that it is not possible. This is really weird, you guys. I'm
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on Funimation and I am on allegedly the episode with Kuma and all of this.
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I'm running through it and it is playing the like actually the previous episode,
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and I have adjusted twice and it keeps on playing the previous episode,
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and I don't know why it's doing that. We're getting a lot of Maybe
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that's maybe it's just so much flashback that it's looking like it's all the previous
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episode. But I'm halfway through it and we've got we've got like us up
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laughing at Oars and getting him to punch himself in the face. I just
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watched this. This is not here. Their funnimation fucked up there. They
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something's got its wires crossed. That is a really weird I've never had this
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happen before. Okay, Well, I mean the whole thing that Kuma is,
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the fact that he is here just to like basically help out Maria if
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he's not up for it. I am also a little bit disappointed in that
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he even says something about how he wasn't like officially sent he has volunteered to
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do it, which is less an insult from the government, even though Maria
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is still taking it that way. And I think probably if you were to
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look into it, it would be like it's not official. I volunteered,
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but I was like suggested to volunteer through official channels and they just didn't want
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to make anything too specific. You know. I'm really sorry though, because
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I want to talk about that scenes and I'm going through it, and because
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it's playing very clearly the wrong episode, I am unable to like give you
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guys the blow blah blow of that conversation, which is really weird. I
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moved on to the second of the two or second of the three, and
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it's playing the correct one. So I don't know what's going on. But
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the whole situation with the way accessing this show works, I am telling you
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guys, I don't know how this is the most like popular anime ever when
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it is this difficult to get a hold of, Like you know what I'm
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saying. It just feels like maybe we need a better system here. And
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I know that the streaming services and everything dealing with like international properties is really
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really tricky, and I get that dubs and whatnot also make it difficult,
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but my goodness, this is just too much, Florence says. Kuma also
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tells Maria about Blackbeard as the new warlord since Crocodile had had taken out Thank
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you, yes, And we see that fight, which, for the record,
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and I now know that I was wrong about this, But it's Blackbeard
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that is fighting Ace in that flashback, right, and we have talked about
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how it's funny because he doesn't have a beard, but the design of that
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guy looked so much like Kuma that I thought we were going to find out
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that Kuma was actually Blackbeard, and that basically Blackbeard is someone who works for
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the government, the world government, but like Moonlights as this incredibly notorious pirate.
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I thought we were just going to get a little bit of like secret
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identity shit, and it just turns out that their character designs are just really
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really similar. Just they've got those like square jaws and the long curly black
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hair, really like wide builds, and they look so similar and I was
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like, oh shit, but no, that was not what it was at
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all. We also have this whole like bit with Lufy who thinks that he
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is chasing Maria at the end of the previous section. He finds out that
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he was actually chasing Maria's shadow the whole time, which is super embarrassing for
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him, and he is infuriated in this section and starts like, kind of
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Lufy is really I think that it's remarkable how much. I can still enjoy
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Lufy when a lot of the time the parts of the story that he is
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given are the most boring parts because you've got to find a reason to keep
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him out of the fight. Like he is so overpowered that if he were
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to get involved directly right away most of the time, then it's just gonna
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be game over. So they have to sideline him and do weird shit to
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make it so that he can't participate. And that results in Lufy being in
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like unintentionally a boring character. And it's not like he isn't a boring character.
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You know, he's fun, but it feels like he so rarely gets
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to really like stretch himself. Oh my god, I'm sorry. I didn't
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mean to do that. I wasn't on purpose, but I'm gonna go with
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it. I'm gonna say it. It's just a lot of the time when
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we cut back to Lufy, I have to mentally prepare myself to be not
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only kind of bored, but also frustrated because usually it's him attempting to correct
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or get out of whatever situation he's in, and for whatever reason in that
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plot, it does not work. And I know that it's not going to
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work because we're too early in the ark, so I just have to like
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sort of bear it and get through. And I don't like having that reaction
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to him. I wish that there were other ways to do this, and
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I don't really have a better idea. I understand the necessity of it plot
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wise. I understand that, you know, we can't just have him like
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man, we can't always have just magical power ups for him, although we
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have been pretty consistently doing that. I just I really enjoy how everybody else
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gets their fights and their little moments where they show off and also get to
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be with the rest of the crew and contribute in a group setting, because
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there's something unifying about everybody getting to like show off what they are in particular
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are good at and work as a team. In this section especially, we
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have a bit where Chopper, you know, he sends Zoro flying, and
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Zoro chops up a building and Sangi kicks the building into Oars. Now does
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it work. No, it does not. It does not work because Oars
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is a fucking monster, literally, But I thought it was really fun to
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watch the three of them come up with a plan that utilized each of their
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skills, and I think that's what's sort of missing with Lufy is that it's
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weird with him being the captain and being the person who is so he's the
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lynchpin, you know, He's the one that everybody sort of circles around.
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It's funny how little he actually gets to fight side by side with his own
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crew because of the fact that he is just too much. So I'm gonna
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jump since that is playing the wrong episode for sure, I'm gonna jump into
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three sixty nine Nice or Is plus Moria. And this I found pretty fun
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actually because what you know, I've mentioned how strange I found the like commer
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bund sort of area on oars, and it turns out that actually has a
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really specific function that I kind of This has made me retroactively wish that we
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got like more practical functions for all of the weird things in the costumes we've
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seen, because god knows, there's been a lot of weird fucking costumes.
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So if we were able to go back and be like, Okay, I
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know that this like lapel is shaped really weird and is very very wide,
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but guess what the lapel is also a knife, I would kind of enjoy
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that, like going step by step through some of the weirdest costumes of the
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show and just assigning like secret weapons or functions to things that definitely that's not
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cannon, but you're just deciding I'm going to make every part of this costume
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count and be useful in some way. So yeah, or is his middle
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which like, it's just open, It's just open like a tent on the
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inside is what I kept thinking of, like a circus tent, And I
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kept having to stop and be like, how would that work? And then
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remind myself that he's a zombie. And if I can accept that they just
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stuck a shadow in a zombie, why can't I just accept that that zombie
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has a hollow insides? Because it doesn't matter, it's not none of this
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is anything. It's fine. So Maria, in response basically to the insult
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of Kuma being here trying to tell him what's what, has decided that he
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is going to take matters into his own hands, and he is going to
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go down and serve as the brains of the operation. So he's inside ors
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giving him instructions on what to do. And there are times where it's genuinely
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really funny. There's like interesting stuff too. At one point, or Is
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gets lit on fire, and this is I think due to OO stop using
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like a some kind of exploding star thing, and ors is like patting,
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like kind of jumping in place, and he's panicking over the fact that the
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fire hurts, and Maria has to be like, hey, Bud, I
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think you'll find if you tune in for a second, it doesn't hurt.
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You just expect it to hurt because of the memories you have of fire hurting,
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and so it's in your head that you are feeling pain. But if
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you really stop and think about it, you don't feel any pain at all.
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And Lufy stops and realizes he's right and says something like, man,
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I look silly. You know what, guys, I think that I just
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have a real soft spot for the words silly, and I need to use
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the word silly more because fucking cars on the table. I use the words
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stupid and idiotic and you know whatnot And in truth, those all have pretty
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abless roots. Right now, the meaning of the words, I feel like
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has changed so much that there's a big part of me that is resistant to
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just being like cutting them out of my vocabulary because I feel like it doesn't
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really mean that anymore, but in some ways it does still, you know,
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So I'm trying to like edge my way toward being better and using words
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like wild instead of crazy, for example, small change. I really want
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to start incorporating silly because what I like about it is that it gets across
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the fact that something is sort of nonsensical, but it does so in a
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way that feels a little bit patronizing, like and sometimes that's what you want
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to be doing. The point of saying, well, that's stupid is to
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really like get it across that if you think this thing, then you are
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a gullible fool. And I feel like silly really does that. It nails
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like not only the fact that this does not make any sense, but that
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the person saying it is probably a bit of a goof. And I really
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appreciate any time that I see it used in the wild now days, and
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I want to incorporate it more. And and the fact that Rufie's zombie says
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it here and the way he's just like reallyish that cracked me up. And
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then a little bit later when Frankie gets tossed because yo Frankie gets tossed tossed
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like that was that was rough. They're all just sort of standing around looking
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at Frankie as he's landing, and Maria says to Oars, it looks like
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he's still alive. Go step on him, I think, is what he
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says, and uh, lufy, well lufy not lufy. Oars says,
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okay, and I really enjoyed that too. I don't know if this is
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hinting that Oars isn't really here for this, or if it's just meant to
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be that he is not enjoying being ordered around, you know, maybe feeling
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a little bit lazy and is like, okay, I got him now one
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and he's like, well you didn't really get him, and or it is
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just being like, oh my god, fine, I'll go do it.
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Nah. You know, I think it's probably that one, but I was
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sort of hoping that maybe it would turn out, and I've been hoping this
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the whole time, as you guys know, that there would come a point
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where like one of the zombies basically goes, you know what, fuck all
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of this, I'm out. And it would be pretty fun if Or's got
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ordered around so much that he just kind of decided that he was on strike,
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and it's just like, nah, man, you know what, I
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Am not interested in taking your fucking orders anymore. But it depends on how
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much of Lufy's personality is left in there, and you know, as time
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goes on, as we have seen, his personality begins to fall away.
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So I even if it were happening, I don't know how much that's going
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to be able to like develop, because the whole way the timing works is
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working against it. So anyway, I'm kind of jumping all over the place.
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But nevertheless, I just really wanted to talk about some of that stuff
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off the top. And we have Lufy who has been left in a patch
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of woods because he was following Maria's shadow, and eventually the shadow just ditches
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him, which I was genuinely surprised by. It just flies back to the
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castle and Lufy is yelling after it for it to tell him where he is
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because he's lost. But the thing is, guys, he's yelling that at
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the shadow that is clearly flying toward the castle, which is in clear view,
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and I'm not sure if it's just supposed to be that from where he
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is, Lufy can't see the castle, and it's just us as viewers that
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can see it because of the angle we're watching. But it really seems to
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me like Lufy should be able to see it. So I got confused about
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the fact that he's allegedly lost when he's got a pretty decent landmark right there
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that should aid him in a big way. And Lufy is standing there and
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it is just like, well, I have a you know, I gotta
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get this done before morning. You're leaving me here. This is screwing me.
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And then he stops and asks himself, why do we need to get
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this done before morning? Again, he's like completely lost the thread, and
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when he remembers, he begins to seriously panic and finally goes, I guess
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I better just follow Maria's shadow and hope it going the right way. And
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I was like, thank you, yeah, because it seems like that's pretty
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clear if Maria's intent was to ditch Lofy, it just felt like a really
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half asked way of doing it. I also have the question, you guys,
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because you know, the whole thing with the shadows being taken, if
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they are forcibly taken, they contain the personality and the skills, at least
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temporarily the personality of the person that's taken from. And I am really curious
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how much Maria's shadow is under Maria's control, and not to say like the
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Shadow is just going to become a free agent and do its own thing,
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But can it be controlled by Maria from afar or is it working totally independently
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and everything it does will come as a surprise when Maria hears about it later
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or is he like kind of aware of what it's doing and what's happening with
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it, because it's I'm just sort of thinking of it in terms of it
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being an entirely separate entity like a henchman, and that's not really what it
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is. So I'm not sure if it functions like a second set of eyes
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or if it really is sort of meant to be a whole separate being.
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And if it's a whole separate being, like that sort of changes things up
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as well, because I mean, the fact that Maria has this shadow that
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can fight for him to begin with is pretty big. Like this is also
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for those who are reading the Cradle series, and I'm starting coverage of the
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final book in the series today and I'm so excited. I have mentioned a
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lot throughout covering One Piece. How Will White, the writer of that series,
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is a massive One Piece fan, and there are so many places where
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I can see the influence. I can see the ideas that inspired different parts
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of Cradle, and this whole thing with the Shadow one hundred percent is reminding
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me of the concept of blood shadows. And for those who are not aware
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of what that is, I am not going to tell you because it's a
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tiny kind of a spoiler, and also it's a lot more effective to read
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than it is for me to tell you, So go read the books.
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But yeah, having this sort of separate entity that is and isn't you is
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It's just I really want to know how this works because Maria sort of just
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it feels like all he does is open the door to let the Shadow go
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do it, and after that doesn't really concern himself with what it's doing or
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even think about whether it will fail. There's no there's no fear from him
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or feeling of stakes like can his shadow be killed? I have to assume
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no, right, like or is it possible for another shadow to fight it?
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We know that the shadows are pretty much on a one way path back
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to their owner when they're just floating around in the air. But I guess
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the thing is that Maria is the only one who has this ability, right,
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everybody else's shadow just functions normally, and Maria is the only one who
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can make his operate independently. And maybe if somebody else had this power,
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but I have to assume there's no killing his shadow because there aren't other shadows
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that are interested in attacking without having a body to live in first. Anyway,
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I'm sorry, I'm just thinking out loud about like the implications of this.
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So there's a couple of different things here that are sort of interesting about
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what's going on with the whole crew. We've got Zoro, who is going
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forward to meet Oars and is like using this new sword. I think he
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calls it a black blade at one point, but apparently the weight of it
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is really different from what he is used to, so when he's using it
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at first, it isn't responding the way he expects and it's a little bit
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more difficult, like it's slower, is the way that he describes it.
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And he decides that he is just going to go into this fight against oars
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by himself and not like ask for backup from his friends and not have any
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particular plan. So all of his friends are sort of screaming for him to
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fucking turn around and come back, but he is extremely wrapped up in his
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brand new toy that he wants to try out, and he uses like a
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technique that he has used before, which has way way more power than it
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normally does, and he's realizing that the strike from this technique has been kind
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of what's the word I want? It's like the blade gathered all three sword
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strikes together and like condensed it into this one extremely powerful. It's what I
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kept thinking when I was imagining the way this would work him in my head
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was taking the power of like three punches and putting them together into that sort
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of like really tight finger punch where it's like a finger pistol idea actually,
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where it's one really concentrated area, but the hit is so much harder because
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all of that power is concentrated that way. So he is pretty excited about
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the change in power, but also recognizing that the fact that it is a
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more difficult blade to handle is going to require some practice, and he actually
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thanks the samurais just sort of like, you really gave me one hell of
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a sword here, and or says something about how Zoro could have put his
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eye out, which I find genuinely funny, and says I'm going to grind
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you down to goo and begins chasing Zoro. All of his friends have been
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sort of like watching from the edges of this courtyard, I suppose, And
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as the as Zoro's like backing up from Oars, Oars is approaching the rest
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of the crew and they're all starting to get a little bit nervous about this
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situation. And finally Zoro strikes again, because it's a lot of him just
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dodging, you know, running away, and he does one strike that gets
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Oars dropped on his side, and I was thinking that he had, like,
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I don't know, suffered Achilles ten in or something really crucial. It
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turns out Oars is able to get right back up again. And this is
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what I mean in the opening when I said, like, everybody is throwing
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attacks at Oars and nothing is really doing anything. I kept waiting for something
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to turn out to be the magic bullet. And you have a moment right
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after each attack where you're feeling like that really did something, and you're waiting
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for the evidence. You're waiting for it to hit Oars or for Oars to
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react, and then he just doesn't in the way that you expect. So
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in this one, he just stands right back up again. I thought Zoro
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had dealt him a pretty vicious blow and he just shook it off. And
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this is the same thing like with the fire, which turns out to really
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not be a thing. And they're the buildings, like when they get the
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chunks of the building flying and Sangi is kicking them across. All Oars has
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to do is basically like punch them back at them, which is really unfortunate
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that he is even able to do that. I mean, that just seems
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kind of unfair. But yeah, so everything that he is attempting isn't everything
34:19
they are attempting. I'm saying he because because I'm talking about Zoro at the
34:22
moment, but all of them is. It's all shaping up in these like
34:28
big dramatic moments of initiation. You know, like when USAP in the third
34:38
of these episodes, USAP has that like giant sort of slingshot thing. He
34:45
calls it again like King's stag beetle or something. I can't remember what he
34:50
calls it, but I found the name really weird and it rang a bell,
34:52
and I'm pretty sure I found it weird the other time too. But
34:55
the whole way that this works is essentially it's a catapult to send Frankie flying
35:02
towards oars up towards like face level, and he hasn't had a chance to
35:09
test it, so he doesn't know if it's going to work. And I
35:13
sort of thought maybe what we were going to get was the catapult just not
35:16
really working the right way. This giant slingshot. I guess a catapult is
35:21
technically a different thing. But we, like I said, we have this
35:25
big build up. You know, he's holding it in place and straining against
35:30
it, and Frankie walks up and they have a talk about, you know,
35:34
whether it's going to work. It's a whole thing, and then Frankie
35:37
gets launched across and by the way, instead of just shooting forward like head
35:40
first, the way that most of us would if we were attempting to become
35:45
more streamlined for you know, air flight, Frankie decides he's going to sit
35:52
cross, lean like he's doing a meditation or something. And I don't know
35:58
why, but that shit was so there was something so funny about it.
36:04
You know, I don't know why that got me, but yeah, all
36:08
this build up, Frankie's flying across, he's really feeling himself. He assures
36:14
usap like, you know, count on me, kid, I've got this,
36:17
and then Or just just fucking picks him out of the air and like
36:23
chucks him and Frankie goes down like really hard. And this is what I
36:31
mean, is I felt like and this is I would say, a good
36:37
thing. It's just disorienting when you have these big moments where a weapon or
36:45
a technique is getting a special kind of focus and there's a lot of build
36:52
up to it, and a lot of like, oh, well this has
36:57
not been out of testing yet, or I haven't a chance to try this
37:00
yet. What I traditionally expect is usually like, oh, it's the solution.
37:13
Once we do it, either for comedic effect, it's going to completely
37:16
fail in a really spectacular way, or it's going to turn out that we
37:22
like stumbled across the solution to our problem here. And with all of these
37:30
that's not really the case. Our friends are like trying things out, and
37:35
it's a momentous moment for them to be attempting what they're doing, and to
37:42
a degree they are getting feedback from the experimenting that they're on the right track.
37:47
Like Zoro with his new technique and the blade and everything, he is
37:52
unsuccessful at trying to take ors down with it, but it's clear he is
37:58
headed towards a more powerful version of what he's been doing so far, and
38:04
this is something that he can utilize in the future. But we don't get
38:09
a victory out of it. We get lots of little like it will be
38:15
a victory as long as everybody lives through this, you know, and I
38:20
know they will because they just will. But I enjoyed, I would say,
38:25
actually, the fact that I kept getting tricked into thinking, oh,
38:30
okay, here it is, this is the thing that's going to do it,
38:34
and it just never was. It just always failed. And it doesn't
38:38
even just like almost work and then fails for technical reasons. Everything fails pretty
38:47
spectacularly. Like Zoro's attacks just really don't do shit. Frankie flying at his
38:55
face, I mean, Frankie does nothing but sort of inconvenience or for a
39:00
few minutes because there's all this like dust kicked up I think, or maybe
39:05
that was a zoro and like Sanji kicking the buildings towards them. There's no
39:09
moment where Oars is like, oh no, he just shoots that ship right
39:15
back and makes all of our friends evacuate the area in a panic, basically
39:21
like to a point where Brooke, who is back with his giant bag of
39:25
salt by the way, he like collapses in a bit of a panic and
39:30
Robin has to save him with her hand magic. That sounds really filthy.
39:38
I will never say it like that again, but yeah, I just really
39:45
the fact that I kept thinking, oh, okay, here's a thing I
39:50
should know. Of course, none of this is going to be the thing
39:54
because Lufy is ultimately the one that's going to have to fight Oars. That's
39:59
just the deal. That's how this is. This is where we're heading,
40:02
like clearly, but I wasn't considering the greater arc or you know, even
40:08
if it weren't that they took him down, I was thinking they would make
40:13
a significant dent in him, and they do not. It doesn't seem like
40:19
Oors is at all worse for the wear by the time they're done attempting all
40:25
of these different methods. So because I'm a Dodo and I wasn't really thinking
40:32
things through, I was caught off guard. But I also enjoy that because
40:38
none of them worked. First of all, there's the element of surprise for
40:40
me of getting to watch them fail so badly. And of course you get
40:45
the build up of the fact that this guy is so tough that all of
40:50
these incredibly powerful and intense attacks don't work. So when Lufy comes through and
40:57
he starts fighting, it's going to be a lot clearer to us as an
41:02
audience exactly what he's up against and how hard he's going to have to go
41:07
to get this dude at all on the back foot, you know. And
41:14
we also have the appearance of Nami again, which very predictably Sanji does not
41:21
handle super well. She's yelling at him for not saving her, and he
41:29
is just so delighted to be yelled at, which makes sense. Sanji definitely
41:34
feels like a sub to me, and he would just delight in it.
41:37
He would have such a good time. And then you guys, then we
41:45
get something that I didn't expect and that I'm really mad about. So or
41:52
is this standing there and looking at Nami and we're gearing up for him to
41:58
punch in her direction, and he's saying gum gum as he's like revving up,
42:04
so to speak. And I'm thinking to myself, he keeps saying gumgum
42:07
even though the stretching never works. I guess it's just force of habit,
42:14
you know, we know it doesn't actually work. And then he does manage
42:22
to stretch after all, And I am extremely concerned because I didn't think this
42:30
was possible, and I felt like the show and I were both on the
42:32
same wavelength in terms of how the Devil Fruit powers work and that we had
42:39
both agreed that that is the sort of thing that is like affecting a live
42:45
body and causing some changes, and that it would likely not work out the
42:50
same way on a dead one. So I felt we were on the same
42:55
page and I was good with it. And now we're changing up the script
43:01
and we are throwing it out there that actually this can be done by oars
43:08
as well, And my question is what changed? Why can he do it
43:14
now? And if he gets the ability, does this mean that Lufy is
43:21
going to lose it? Temporarily because he you know, only one person at
43:28
a time can have the ability. Does his shadow count as a second person?
43:32
And would that remove it from Lufy? Is this you know, like,
43:38
oh, sort of? There can only be one situation, and since
43:44
his shadow is in another being right now, it isn't just considered a second
43:50
whole person, because granted, we get some stuff happening later that I think
43:57
is going to result in Lufy powering up in such a way that not having
44:01
his devil Fruit powers wouldn't be the end of the world. I just don't
44:07
like the idea that this is that taking a devil fruit power via a shadow
44:15
is a possibility, and I don't like the idea that it is something that
44:22
would sink in slowly and sort of like, even if you left the person
44:28
alive who shadow you took, they're going to start walking around without even their
44:34
devil Fruit powers anymore. It's bad enough to not be able to come out
44:37
into the sunlight. It's also very bad to have had a superpower and then
44:45
get it taken away from you after you've gotten used to having it for however
44:50
long. So I'm just if it does turn out that only one of them
44:54
can have it at a time. I'm really curious what Lufy's re action is
45:00
going to be if he attempts to use gum gum anything and it doesn't work,
45:07
and also what his reaction is going to be when he sees that Oars
45:12
can use it. There's a part of me here because you know, I've
45:17
said that I want to see each of our guys face down with the shadow
45:22
of themselves and fight because that's just fun, Like how can that not be
45:28
fun? But there's a part of me that wants Lufy to go up to
45:35
Oars and like we would be watching expecting a fight, and then it turns
45:42
out that they both have the exact same priorities and are so easygoing and chummy
45:49
right away that they become friends and don't have to fight, and Loria is
45:52
just sort of elbowed out of the way because Oors likes Lufy better. That
45:59
is, I would enjoy that. I'm just gonna say, do I think
46:04
that's like great writing? No? But I also it would be fun.
46:08
There is something about or As being part loofy that you just don't really want
46:15
him to get his ass completely handed to him, you know what I'm saying,
46:21
Like I still have a feeling like that's loofy there and he is just
46:27
doing what he is told and doesn't really get what's happening to him. And
46:31
I for one, don't feel that he deserves to be put down exactly purified.
46:37
Fine, but we'll see about that. And like Brooks showing up with
46:43
this giant bag of salt, I was really hoping that what we were going
46:47
to get was the sling shot that USAP uses with Frankie, that we were
46:53
going to have that set up and reloaded, but loaded with the bag full
46:58
of salt. And I am assuming in the end that is still going to
47:04
be the way we wind up purifying him. I don't see it being that
47:07
somebody drags up a bag of salt that size behind them as they like climb
47:14
this creature. I have to assume either it's getting like dropped in when somebody
47:21
jumps past like above or from a window in one of the buildings, or
47:27
something like this the sling shot. So I guess we just have to sort
47:32
of wait to see that. And what I am going to predict is going
47:37
to happen is that Lufy is going to engage Oars in a fight and be
47:44
instructed to sort of like turn oars in a certain direction or get him to
47:49
open his mouth at a certain point or whatever, and then they will use
47:54
the sling shot. And it's going to have required that Lufy be there to
47:59
adequately stract Ores. So that I just want to say to you, I'm
48:04
not totally sure how much Ores understands the danger of the salt. I think
48:08
he gets it for the most part. But he had been about to eat
48:13
that salted fish and they tell him like, dude, or is this your
48:16
first day? You can't eat that? And you know, we know therefore
48:22
that he has been given the actual information, but being told a thing and
48:28
keeping it in mind afterwards that is not the same thing. And the latter
48:34
is not one of Lufy's particular strong points. Let's just say he can be
48:37
told things and he will lose it like a minute and a half later as
48:43
if you never said it to him, because he has adhd will all we
48:47
are all in agreement right like just one. So does Ores have the presence
48:54
of mind if they were to just put a giant batch of salted fish next
49:00
to him to not eat it? And we know Maria is in the mix
49:02
now, so Maria might just be yelling at him, like, don't do
49:06
it. Will that sink in, though, because this dude is very food
49:10
obsessed, and I have to wonder whether the orders of his master are going
49:16
to succeed in superseding the drive he has to consume and eat as much as
49:23
he can. Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see. But
49:30
we have this big bag of salt. I love it, and I want
49:34
to see what happens with that. But I am also sort of like,
49:37
I don't feel like you even need to worry about that. Guys. You
49:38
could just get some salted food, just, you know, get a box
49:43
of McDonald's fries. And so saunter on up done, which brings me to
49:49
talking about the whole thing with the shadows in the woods. So Lucy gets
49:57
stopped by a bunch of the guys who are wandering around without their shadows,
50:01
and they have a woman with them. I think they call her Peggy the
50:07
Proposer or Polly the Proposer some of the pay because apparently she just proposes to
50:14
like every man she meets. And they tell him that when shadows go out,
50:23
like when somebody gets purified. One of the zombies and the shadow comes
50:28
out of their mouths and begins to fly back toward its owner. You could
50:34
just grab the shadow out of the air with your bare hands, just snatch
50:39
you out of the air and keep it for a while. And I my
50:45
jaw dropped, You know that? Like what? That the idea that they
50:52
are corporeal in that way. And granted we have been seeing Lufie literally fight
50:59
a shadow, but that's Maria's shadow. That's like a special circumstance. I
51:04
thought. I didn't think that they were substantial enough to touch when they're coming
51:09
out of a body. And so these dudes have just stored up a fucking
51:16
hundred and change of these shadows, which I just for the record, want
51:22
to say. The fact that they're all doing this so they can get their
51:28
shadows back, but also preventing people from getting their shadows back because they're just
51:31
gathering them and holding onto them and hoarding them. I feel like that's not
51:37
really great ethics, guys, but we'll set that aside. So they tell
51:45
Lufy even though you are alive and you have a soul in you, you
51:53
can still get a shadow put in you and take on the abilities of that
51:59
person. And I again was like, oh my god. So they test
52:06
it out by giving him the shadow of a swordsman, and I don't know
52:10
who specifically it was, but he says in response to like, can you
52:17
use a sword? He says no, and they hand him one and he
52:22
does like a couple of really wild tricks with it, and everybody's like ha
52:28
ha, and Lufy is dumbfound and it's just like wait what And it turns
52:35
out now he can sword fight because of that shadow. He also has really
52:39
heavy black liner under his eyes to signal that the shadow is within him.
52:45
Right, that's like the sort of visual what's the word I want, not
52:53
just clue, but like language. I guess communication. And I'm thinking,
53:02
like, okay, that's cool having that extra ability. And it turns out
53:07
they're basically like, you can take as many shadows as you can handle.
53:14
So they hold Loofy in place, who yells to protest because it's pretty disorienting.
53:20
It turns out to have a shadow put into you, and he's like,
53:23
I didn't agree to this, and without his consent, just begin to
53:28
bile shadows into his body really really quickly, and we cut away as they're
53:36
doing this, and he's protesting, but then when we come back, he
53:39
has succeeded in taking in a hundred of them, and everybody is just like,
53:45
I have literally never seen anybody able to do anything remotely like this.
53:50
Your willpower must be insane. And again just mentioning cradle here just just a
53:58
thing with the willpower hour and the absorbing of you know, just saying so
54:07
also you know, talking about like the visual language of the fact that he
54:13
has the shadow being the under eyeliner. Once he takes in all these shadows,
54:20
Lufy is jacked all to hell, Like he is looking a lot like
54:24
Frankie to be honest. He has got the extremely big forearms and the like
54:32
triangle like Derito shape body and is acting a little bizarre. Everybody is sort
54:43
of like, is he okay? Because he hasn't passed out, and because
54:50
of that and the fact that the shadows are staying in him, they are
54:53
counting that as a win. But he just doesn't seem like himself, and
55:00
they ask like, are you're right, Bud, and he's like, oh
55:05
yeah, but you know that reassurance doesn't really feel like reassurance. So I
55:14
was pretty psyched until they tell Lufy the fucking caveat here. The catch which
55:24
is he can only hold these shadows within himself for ten minutes because he has
55:31
a soul already, And you know, I am the way I sort of
55:36
imagine it. The souls fits into a slot in your body, and there's
55:42
something in that slot already. So all these shadows are going to be bouncing
55:45
around trying to find a place that they fit, and they won't find it.
55:52
Eventually, the body is going to reject them, and they are going
55:57
to pop back out again and go back to their owner. Now, what
56:04
I want to know is if it's possible to grab them out of the air
56:07
and just stuff them right back in and basically do this indefinitely, because if
56:15
you can grab them with your bare hands, I'll see why not, you
56:19
know, I think what it really the question for me is how debilitating is
56:24
it when the shadows leave you? Because if it's just like they just fly
56:30
out of you and now you lose that ability, that's not too bad.
56:34
But if it's sort of a reverse of whatever he feels when they go into
56:37
him, then the shadows leaving may kind of lay him the fuck out and
56:43
make him useless for a minute or two, and that wouldn't be so terrible
56:50
if it was just the one shadow, but because he's got so many in
56:53
him, if that happens, he's going to be completely vulnerable. So that's
56:59
the thing that I'm really curious about. Is like the fact that it's they
57:04
can only be held for ten minutes blows it really does. It sucks.
57:08
I hate that, But I want to know what it looks like when they
57:13
just leave, you know, because I feel like, if it's not terrible,
57:20
he could just grab it and take it back and do it again.
57:23
So yeah, So then the episode ends. I got so psyched up about
57:29
it, and then it ends with him just like walking away and feeling himself
57:35
because he is so he is so enormous and has all I have to imagine
57:47
probably has like I don't want to say, voices in his head because I'm
57:52
not sure that's exactly how this manifests, but it's probably a lot of conflicting
57:55
information that is bouncing around inside his head. So I'm really curious. Even
58:02
though he has gotten physically bigger, obviously he is nothing in comparison to Oars.
58:08
I said that he looks a lot more like Frankie and that's true,
58:12
and you guys have seen what Frankie looks like standing next to Oars. It's
58:15
nothing. So what kind of abilities will Will? Oh my god, you
58:22
guys, I'm already on cradle brain. Holy shit, Will Lufy? What
58:28
is he going to pull out? What's he got in his pocket? I'm
58:30
really interested to see what kind of ability is going to be useful against Oars
58:36
when we've got a lot of pretty talented fighters here making no difference. You
58:39
know, all of their attacks have no effect. So all right, well
58:45
I'm going to wrap up, but thank you guys so much for hanging out
58:49
with me. Appreciate you all. Sorry about the like weird confusion with Funimation.
58:52
I don't know what's going on there. I watched the episodes from here
58:54
and it was fine, but then going back and trying to rewatch them it's
58:59
given me problem. So but um, I think I was able to cover
59:01
pretty much everything. If I missed anything, let me know And until next
59:07
time to loom Motherfucker's That was an Unspoiled Network podcast