Latest / Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald / Spencer Pratt on Taylor Swift and Kardashian P. Diddy Connection
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- 0:54Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
- 1:00Speaker 2: You guys have been begging. You have been missing this daddy.
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- 1:09Speaker 2: blue-eyed baby boys that are crazy. Spencer Pratt, welcome back
- 1:13Speaker 2: to Juicy Scoop.
- 1:14Speaker 4: Thank you so much. And a thank you to everyone
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- 1:21Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Love taking photos. If it weren't for Heather,
- 1:26Speaker 4: I wouldn't even feel relevant. So I'm so thankful. And
- 1:30Speaker 4: all the comments section, I read them all. And it's
- 1:33Speaker 4: just a great community.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Thank you for bringing my Heidi Montag shirt. By the way,
- 1:38Speaker 2: very soft t-shirt material.
- 1:39Speaker 4: That's why I wear them every day.
- 1:42Speaker 2: She is.
- 1:43Speaker 4: trending big time.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Big time we're going to talk about taylor swift but
- 1:47Speaker 2: we have to talk about heidi first this is actually
- 1:49Speaker 2: really amazing all the songs that she's doing and all
- 1:52Speaker 2: that oh no it's insane that's so great how much
- 1:54Speaker 2: is she loving.
- 1:55Speaker 4: It people they're like why is she doing this i'm
- 1:58Speaker 4: like go on spotify and look at her monthly listeners
- 2:01Speaker 4: and then go look at all your favorite non-dualipa taylor
- 2:05Speaker 4: you know just normal pop people heidi is like million
- 2:09Speaker 4: more than everybody like A million two monthly listeners is crazy.
- 2:13Speaker 4: One of them's at 70 million streams. And then on TikTok,
- 2:17Speaker 4: it was 2 billion. And then China, she's like famous, famous.
- 2:21Speaker 4: So we may be moving to China. So that's. moving
- 2:24Speaker 4: or just going there for a little I mean if
- 2:25Speaker 4: we get there and we're real famous I don't know
- 2:27Speaker 4: how I would leave that you.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Know I mean I think they would embrace you that's.
- 2:30Speaker 4: What I'm saying I can I love Chinese food so
- 2:33Speaker 4: I could.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Just well of course your first music video that you
- 2:37Speaker 2: ever did was when I did the parody and I
- 2:41Speaker 2: was Heidi.
- 2:42Speaker 4: At the beach higher so I think about how rich
- 2:46Speaker 4: we would have been if you could monetize you know
- 2:49Speaker 4: like there was no YouTube money just your video we
- 2:51Speaker 4: would have got the money too I'm like.
- 2:53Speaker 2: God We did it at Chelsea lately. And I remember
- 2:56Speaker 2: everyone was like, oh, my God, have you guys seen
- 3:00Speaker 2: this video? And then the producers were like, would you
- 3:03Speaker 2: go meet the producer at like seven in the morning
- 3:06Speaker 2: at this beach? And I'm like, OK, let me find
- 3:09Speaker 2: I didn't want to wear a bathing suit because I
- 3:11Speaker 2: was still like my son was only about a year
- 3:12Speaker 2: and a half at the time. So I'm like, I
- 3:14Speaker 2: found something like a tankini, the same color. And then
- 3:18Speaker 2: the producer was you filming it. And I just did
- 3:20Speaker 2: the whole thing in the water. And they put it
- 3:24Speaker 2: on YouTube, you know, as like a fan account because
- 3:28Speaker 2: E didn't want it to look like they were putting
- 3:30Speaker 2: it on. And also E was really weird. They never
- 3:32Speaker 2: wanted us to have clips on YouTube because they were like,
- 3:35Speaker 2: but it's airing in Brazil the next day. And we're like, great,
- 3:39Speaker 2: you know, great marketing there. But I know I didn't
- 3:42Speaker 2: have my own YouTube channel or whatever. And then when
- 3:44Speaker 2: Chelsea left, E, they took it all down. It had
- 3:50Speaker 2: millions of views. That was the number one Like Chelsea
- 3:53Speaker 2: Lately clip was that parody of your music video.
- 3:57Speaker 4: You know, the funniest part about that is it looks
- 4:00Speaker 4: so like bootleg, but the editor that I randomly got
- 4:03Speaker 4: to do it because he was a friend of a
- 4:05Speaker 4: friend was the editor at the time of 24 with
- 4:09Speaker 4: like Jack Bauer, like the dopest editor in the game.
- 4:12Speaker 4: And he's like, you only have this one angle. I'm
- 4:15Speaker 4: not sure much I could do. You know, he's just like...
- 4:17Speaker 4: 50 shots or whatever. But that was like the editor
- 4:20Speaker 4: of 24 did that.
- 4:21Speaker 2: That is amazing.
- 4:23Speaker 4: So, yeah. But speaking of pop stars.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
- 4:27Speaker 4: It was a Friday. I received a gift from Taylor
- 4:30Speaker 4: Swift and I'm wearing part of it because it doesn't
- 4:34Speaker 4: fit around my wrist. Taylor sent me a gold bracelet.
- 4:37Speaker 2: And what are the letters?
- 4:38Speaker 4: It says TT the... Oh, for.
- 4:42Speaker 2: The Poet Society or whatever.
- 4:44Speaker 4: What is the name of it? The Poets.
- 4:46Speaker 2: Wait, it's TTPD is the initials for it.
- 4:50Speaker 4: There we go. That's what it says.
- 4:51Speaker 2: And we're going to get all into it. The other
- 4:55Speaker 2: person that's right behind Heidi Montag... and Taylor Swift is
- 4:59Speaker 2: this girl, Heather McDonald. And she's going on tour. Wow.
- 5:03Speaker 2: And I'm going to be in Scottsdale Phoenix area, May 3rd,
- 5:08Speaker 2: really fun. I'm doing stand-up, Julie's doing stand-up, and then Brandi, Julie,
- 5:11Speaker 2: and I are going to do the hottest, funniest topics
- 5:13Speaker 2: for you. I'm doing Denver with Julie as well on
- 5:18Speaker 2: May 17th and 18th. Chris Frangiola in Temecula, Apachanga, San
- 5:23Speaker 2: Diego in July. It's all at HeatherMcDowland.net, and then a
- 5:27Speaker 2: bunch of fall dates on the East Coast as well. HeatherMcDowland.net. Okay, let— now,
- 5:33Speaker 2: when did.
- 5:33Speaker 4: You— Wait, are you going to do an eras experience ever?
- 5:35Speaker 4: I feel like you should just play into that right
- 5:38Speaker 4: now and just have the eras version.
- 5:40Speaker 2: No, I remember you always said you were a Swifty.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Of course, I've always enjoyed her music. I always respected
- 5:47Speaker 2: that she wrote her own songs, played instruments, loved her mother,
- 5:51Speaker 2: always thought she was great. Even when we would report
- 5:54Speaker 2: on her back in the Chelsea Lately days and all
- 5:56Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, people always wondered— You know, she
- 6:00Speaker 2: always writes about her boyfriends. I remember she bought, didn't
- 6:03Speaker 2: she buy a house right next to one of the
- 6:05Speaker 2: Kennedys that she was dating?
- 6:07Speaker 4: You know, it's a nice area. I'm not going to
- 6:09Speaker 4: say it's because of him. It's like saying, you know,
- 6:12Speaker 4: there's a.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Certain group of- Wait, who was the Kennedy that she bought?
- 6:15Speaker 2: Who was the, wasn't it a Kennedy?
- 6:17Speaker 4: Yeah, he was. Who was it? I don't know his name,
- 6:19Speaker 4: but I mean, it's like saying- That was so long ago.
- 6:21Speaker 4: It was like the Malibu Colony. There's this place in Hampton. So,
- 6:24Speaker 4: you know, it's not- Right.
- 6:26Speaker 2: That's true.
- 6:26Speaker 4: That's true. At the end of the day, these are
- 6:28Speaker 4: mansions in the best area. It happened to maybe be
- 6:31Speaker 4: near a guy she thought was cute.
- 6:33Speaker 2: And so when did you become a hardcore Swifty?
- 6:36Speaker 4: Rewind. I've met Taylor twice before I was a Swifty.
- 6:39Speaker 4: And her mom, when we were backstage, reminded us of
- 6:43Speaker 4: these experiences. And that's how. you know, big ego crazy.
- 6:47Speaker 4: I was at one time that I had to be
- 6:48Speaker 4: reminded meeting Taylor because, you know, it was like, Oh,
- 6:52Speaker 4: would you like a photo? You know, the reverse roles. So, uh,
- 6:56Speaker 4: when the Kim Kanye conspiracy came out, I off the
- 7:01Speaker 4: jump did not believe I felt like it was an edit.
- 7:04Speaker 4: So for backstory for our listeners.
- 7:07Speaker 2: They're saying two of the songs are about this incident,
- 7:11Speaker 2: Cassandra and also the, um, Amy one. Thank you, Amy.
- 7:16Speaker 2: In which the writing of it is all lowercase, except
- 7:20Speaker 2: the K from think is a big K. Then you, A,
- 7:24Speaker 2: little A, then big I, big M, small ee. So
- 7:29Speaker 2: people put that together as code that it was thank you, Kim,
- 7:34Speaker 2: for being so awful to me because of that horrible experience,
- 7:39Speaker 2: I'm at this higher level, which I could not relate
- 7:43Speaker 2: to more than in what I've experienced in the last
- 7:45Speaker 2: six months. And so I love it, but please explain
- 7:50Speaker 2: what the story is because for those that are not
- 7:52Speaker 2: super Swifties, you kind of remember it, you kind of don't.
- 7:55Speaker 4: I remember it like it was yesterday.
- 7:57Speaker 2: Okay.
- 7:57Speaker 4: And that's why I became a Swiftie because I related
- 8:00Speaker 4: to it so much because I always felt like I
- 8:03Speaker 4: had been, you know, hated by an edit that was
- 8:06Speaker 4: out of my control.
- 8:07Speaker 5: On the hills.
- 8:08Speaker 4: That was just, you know, how my parallel universe. So
- 8:12Speaker 4: what happened was, Kanye wrote this song.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Well, first let's go back to she won the award
- 8:17Speaker 2: and he hopped up on stage. So let's just remind
- 8:20Speaker 2: people of that. That was that viral moment. She won
- 8:24Speaker 2: Best Album.
- 8:25Speaker 4: Best Music Video, I think, maybe, was it?
- 8:28Speaker 2: Well, whatever she won, Beyonce was also up for it.
- 8:33Speaker 2: And she won. And she got up and she's very excited.
- 8:36Speaker 2: And this is eight, nine years ago. So she's that
- 8:39Speaker 2: much younger and that much, you know, it's still a
- 8:42Speaker 2: huge star, but, and he hops up on stage and goes,
- 8:46Speaker 2: I gotta, I gotta interrupt. He didn't say interrupt. He's like,
- 8:49Speaker 2: I gotta talk for a minute. You know, Beyonce had
- 8:51Speaker 2: the better album. And it was just this moment. Everyone
- 8:54Speaker 2: was like, and Beyonce's dying. And, you know, and so
- 8:58Speaker 2: that happened. So they had that whole beef. Then, They
- 9:02Speaker 2: kind of... Yeah, they neutralize.
- 9:04Speaker 4: They neutralize.
- 9:05Speaker 2: They're like a piece-ish. She's like, I don't need you.
- 9:07Speaker 2: I don't need any enemies. Oh, how cool that Kanye
- 9:10Speaker 2: now thinks... Like now we're kind of friendly.
- 9:13Speaker 4: So then... This song where he supposedly calls her up
- 9:18Speaker 4: and asks for permission to say, you owe me sex.
- 9:24Speaker 4: I made you famous. I'm misquoting.
- 9:26Speaker 2: It was like, I still think Taylor and I should
- 9:29Speaker 2: have sex because I.
- 9:30Speaker 4: Made that bitch famous. She owes me sex.
- 9:32Speaker 2: She owes me sex because I made that bitch famous.
- 9:34Speaker 4: And said that he got, and Kim said that he
- 9:36Speaker 4: called and got permission. And on the show, the reality show,
- 9:40Speaker 4: she said they filmed everything. They show clips where it
- 9:42Speaker 4: looks like it.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Like him calling her.
- 9:45Speaker 4: Like him calling her and she like says, okay.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Kind of laughs and thinks it's sort of funny.
- 9:49Speaker 4: Then, you know, this is when Kim and Kanye are
- 9:52Speaker 4: the media. They're so famous.
- 9:54Speaker 2: Madly in love.
- 9:54Speaker 4: Yeah, madly. Everything's positive about them. So they make Taylor
- 9:57Speaker 4: out to be some liar like a snake, and then
- 10:00Speaker 4: everyone hits her with the snake emojis.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Okay, so wait. This is where it gets confusing for me,
- 10:04Speaker 2: and maybe you don't have the answer. So the song
- 10:07Speaker 2: comes out, and it also, the video is quite provocative.
- 10:11Speaker 2: It has... Caitlyn Jenner now laying there with all these
- 10:17Speaker 2: people in a bed and a Taylor lookalike. Right. And
- 10:21Speaker 2: all these famous people in a bed laying down for
- 10:23Speaker 2: that song. And does she then come out and go,
- 10:27Speaker 2: I don't like this. Where did it come that then
- 10:29Speaker 2: they said, but you said it was OK. That's where
- 10:31Speaker 2: I don't that's where I'm confused.
- 10:33Speaker 3: Right.
- 10:33Speaker 4: That I would have to time machine, but it was
- 10:36Speaker 4: very clear she was, I think, not happy off the jump.
- 10:40Speaker 4: Before the video, I think even just when the lyric
- 10:42Speaker 4: came out, it's from my recollection.
- 10:44Speaker 2: So then Kim puts out this clip of him having
- 10:48Speaker 2: the phone call and her laughing and saying, I like
- 10:50Speaker 2: it or something.
- 10:51Speaker 4: Exactly. Boom. Now that's where the snake emojis come into play.
- 10:54Speaker 2: So now the world that believes that, which you would
- 10:57Speaker 2: because there's video proof. wow taylor's a little whiny bitch
- 11:01Speaker 2: liar she's a liar.
- 11:02Speaker 4: Yeah liar so then somebody has tree pain her legendary
- 11:07Speaker 4: publicist says in this famous tweet and with the laugh
- 11:10Speaker 4: emojis wait.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Who's publicist kim's taylor's taylor's post uh.
- 11:15Speaker 4: You know power player i wouldn't can't even say publicist
- 11:18Speaker 4: and she wrote like after she you know argued with
- 11:21Speaker 4: kim's tweet because she said that look at even your
- 11:24Speaker 4: publicist lied and this is not what I said and
- 11:26Speaker 4: edit and then Tree writes who did you piss off
- 11:31Speaker 4: to leak the whole tape or whatever with laugh emojis
- 11:33Speaker 4: because the full edit gets leaked out and in it
- 11:37Speaker 4: Taylor's like not cool with it she's like yeah I
- 11:39Speaker 4: get that.
- 11:40Speaker 2: Because so someone leaked Kim's full edit exactly and we
- 11:44Speaker 2: don't know who did that but it was someone who
- 11:46Speaker 2: probably worked for her or somewhere in it that doesn't
- 11:48Speaker 2: like her I.
- 11:49Speaker 4: Was thinking that If I was Taylor, I would figure
- 11:53Speaker 4: out who's involved in that and I would have offered
- 11:55Speaker 4: like a million cash. Like, you know, I want to
- 11:58Speaker 4: believe that like, or no, that she went around, knew
- 12:01Speaker 4: this and said, I know there's the real cut. I'm
- 12:04Speaker 4: going to find out.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Whoever, you know, it's my dream. So they put out
- 12:06Speaker 2: the real cut that proves that this was a edit
- 12:09Speaker 2: that was originally put out by Kim.
- 12:11Speaker 4: And she says on it, which is now famous clip,
- 12:13Speaker 4: you know, I'm misquoting. She's like, I get that you
- 12:16Speaker 4: didn't know who I was at this time, but I
- 12:19Speaker 4: had sold 7 million records.
- 12:21Speaker 2: Taylor says that.
- 12:22Speaker 4: Taylor, as in like, you didn't make me famous. Like
- 12:24Speaker 4: I was already sold 7 million records. So she says
- 12:26Speaker 4: that like banger line and just says like, no, like
- 12:31Speaker 4: I'm not cool with this. And it's totally not that.
- 12:33Speaker 4: So then she gets the redemption. But I became a
- 12:36Speaker 4: Taylor Swift fan before that redemption when everyone was hating
- 12:39Speaker 4: on her. And I watched her whole crew turn on her,
- 12:42Speaker 4: like all the people you always saw, you know, you know,
- 12:45Speaker 4: these groups of these models with their squads.
- 12:49Speaker 2: What happens in Hollywood, whether it's music or podcasting or whatever,
- 12:54Speaker 2: they go with the bigger star.
- 12:56Speaker 4: What's in that supposedly in the positive or looks right
- 13:00Speaker 4: in the spin.
- 13:00Speaker 2: And the one that put out the lie first. Everyone.
- 13:04Speaker 2: My sister is a criminal defense attorney. It says this
- 13:06Speaker 2: is why it's harder to be a criminal defense attorney.
- 13:10Speaker 2: Because you look at the person who's been arrested, who's
- 13:13Speaker 2: on trial and 70, 80 percent are going to be like, well,
- 13:16Speaker 2: obviously that person's guilty. So now you as a defense
- 13:19Speaker 2: attorney has to prove that they're not. It's always going
- 13:22Speaker 2: to be harder to be on the defense. So when
- 13:25Speaker 2: there's a lie that goes out first, it is very
- 13:29Speaker 2: there for a year forever. There's going to be people
- 13:32Speaker 2: that still doesn't don't know all these details.
- 13:35Speaker 3: Right.
- 13:35Speaker 2: You're saying right now they still might remember. The story
- 13:39Speaker 2: Kim put out eight years ago, and they're just hearing
- 13:41Speaker 2: about the truth now because not everyone follows up on everything,
- 13:45Speaker 2: you know.
- 13:45Speaker 4: So that's when I became a hardcore Swifty. When I
- 13:48Speaker 4: saw everyone turn against her, I was like, I'm going
- 13:50Speaker 4: to ride with Taylor. And so every single day I
- 13:53Speaker 4: make my coffee and I play, look what you made
- 13:55Speaker 4: me do. And cause I was just feeling it. I
- 13:57Speaker 4: was like, cause I felt her energy. Like I'm going
- 13:59Speaker 4: to snap on this. Like, I'm not going to let
- 14:02Speaker 4: you break me down. And it was just was such like,
- 14:05Speaker 4: I felt like it was like a Tupac album, you know,
- 14:07Speaker 4: like had such like, gangster energy like I'm gonna go
- 14:11Speaker 4: I'm not gonna give in to this lie and let
- 14:14Speaker 4: you define me whatever so that's why I became a
- 14:16Speaker 4: Swifty and then that was when we were invited to
- 14:19Speaker 4: go to the Reputation concert and we're sitting there first
- 14:23Speaker 4: row which was already like crazy and.
- 14:25Speaker 2: Reputation was before Eras or.
- 14:27Speaker 4: This is the same Reputation is like Okay. 2017, I think.
- 14:31Speaker 4: And somebody comes up and is like, Taylor would like
- 14:34Speaker 4: to see you backstage by... Excuse me? So we go
- 14:38Speaker 4: backstage before the show at the Rose Bowl. Taylor's in
- 14:42Speaker 4: her dressing gown, no phone, nothing, and just was as
- 14:47Speaker 4: sweet as any human's ever been.
- 14:50Speaker 3: Like.
- 14:51Speaker 4: For real, like no attitude. She knew. She knew that
- 14:54Speaker 4: you're one of the few.
- 14:55Speaker 2: People that like fucking wrote hard. And I know you're
- 14:59Speaker 2: one of the few people for me.
- 15:01Speaker 4: Exactly. And her mom said that to me. She's like,
- 15:03Speaker 4: we watched when everyone was all her people and you
- 15:06Speaker 4: were there hyping Taylor. Like we saw that. I was like, okay.
- 15:10Speaker 4: And I didn't do, I never thought I'd be backstage
- 15:13Speaker 4: in Taylor Swift when she's like, I didn't think doing
- 15:16Speaker 4: my coffee was not like an agenda. I never thought
- 15:19Speaker 4: I'd end up with Taylor and her mom, with them.
- 15:21Speaker 4: So it was just like out of body. So then
- 15:24Speaker 4: since then, it's harder now being like a Swifty because
- 15:27Speaker 4: people don't know this backstory and they think I'm like
- 15:29Speaker 4: a cloud hanger jumping on. Like jumping on the train.
- 15:32Speaker 4: I'm like, no. I was doing this when everyone was hating.
- 15:35Speaker 4: It wasn't when it was a negative thing. Now, so
- 15:39Speaker 4: it is what it is.
- 15:40Speaker 2: And what I love... about it is being someone that's
- 15:44Speaker 2: been through a similar, much smaller scale, obviously, but the
- 15:48Speaker 2: pain I think is very similar where you felt like
- 15:51Speaker 2: the acts of someone that you thought you were good with,
- 15:55Speaker 2: them putting it out there. And then all of a
- 15:58Speaker 2: sudden she got hate and was told she was a
- 16:01Speaker 2: liar and a little whiny bitch. And I don't think
- 16:04Speaker 2: she had ever experienced anything like that. And it was,
- 16:08Speaker 2: as she said, career debilitating. It was creatively debilitating and
- 16:11Speaker 2: She kind of went in a little hole in every
- 16:15Speaker 2: sense of the word for a couple of years until
- 16:19Speaker 2: she was able to come out of it creatively and
- 16:22Speaker 2: make the lemonade of the songs. And so the fact
- 16:26Speaker 2: that she wrote all these songs, 31 songs, amazing. I
- 16:29Speaker 2: don't know how she had time to do that between
- 16:31Speaker 2: the tour and falling in love with Travis, I don't
- 16:34Speaker 2: understand how she had time to do all this.
- 16:36Speaker 4: I think it's on the jet, I would imagine. You know,
- 16:38Speaker 4: like you're riding on the jet. You're just like so
- 16:40Speaker 4: upset on the jet.
- 16:42Speaker 2: But that's showing someone who's truly, truly creative because normal–
- 16:46Speaker 2: like when I'm done performing or whatever, I'm like– the
- 16:49Speaker 2: last thing I'm doing is like writing a script before
- 16:52Speaker 2: I go out on stage and do stand-up. Like it's
- 16:54Speaker 2: the same thing. Like you think that the downtime would
- 16:57Speaker 2: be the downtime. And I love that about her. But–
- 17:01Speaker 2: When I see some of the comments about, oh, this
- 17:03Speaker 2: song's about the Kim situation, and people have been like, oh,
- 17:06Speaker 2: my God, it's eight years. Get over it. It's like, no,
- 17:09Speaker 2: she doesn't have to get over it. And she's being
- 17:11Speaker 2: super smart and clever and classy about it and making
- 17:14Speaker 2: it fun for all the fans to figure it out.
- 17:17Speaker 2: She's the female Shakespeare of our time. I fucking love it.
- 17:20Speaker 4: You also spend more time on Instagram comment section. On
- 17:24Speaker 4: the TikTok comment section, it's like, you know, like it's weird.
- 17:28Speaker 4: Comment sections have like different types of personalities. So if
- 17:32Speaker 4: you check, you know, there's a lot of TikToks.
- 17:35Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure there's a lot for all for Taylor.
- 17:39Speaker 2: And like, yeah, you don't ever– have to get over
- 17:43Speaker 2: someone completely fucking you over and lying about you with
- 17:46Speaker 2: the goal of trying to ruin your career and not
- 17:49Speaker 2: just career friendships people don't then you've got stink on
- 17:53Speaker 2: you people don't want to be seen with you they
- 17:55Speaker 2: don't want to be talking to you they don't want
- 17:57Speaker 2: to go to an event with you and they try
- 17:59Speaker 2: to act like oh they're busy or whatever and you
- 18:02Speaker 2: don't realize it's happening after it happens and it all
- 18:05Speaker 2: settles and you see all of it it is awesome
- 18:10Speaker 2: to know where everyone really stands. It is a gift.
- 18:13Speaker 2: And that's why she says, thank you, Kim.
- 18:15Speaker 4: So have you been playing a lot of Taylor? I
- 18:16Speaker 4: feel like you should just like in the car on
- 18:18Speaker 4: the way to do scoop, like what you made me do.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I have a lot of people also
- 18:24Speaker 2: sending me stuff going listen to this lyric this is
- 18:26Speaker 2: what you've been through because they've they've been through it
- 18:28Speaker 2: with me for the last six months and I know
- 18:30Speaker 2: I'm not the only one um and that if they
- 18:33Speaker 2: can see a relation you know whatever it is it
- 18:36Speaker 2: might happen you in high school it might happen you
- 18:38Speaker 2: at your job at insurance like peep this happens in
- 18:42Speaker 2: every kind of industry where someone puts out a lie
- 18:44Speaker 2: about you and but this was a you know a
- 18:48Speaker 2: huge obviously two huge stars and i love and i
- 18:52Speaker 2: love that she's like what was the song about your
- 18:55Speaker 2: your child's coming home from school singing about oh and.
- 18:58Speaker 4: There really is the clip like north singing or whatever
- 19:01Speaker 4: oh like already this has happened like right but yeah
- 19:05Speaker 4: you did your child will be coming home and you'll
- 19:09Speaker 4: know that that song's about you but i you know
- 19:13Speaker 4: i'm so confused on a different thing. I think Kim
- 19:16Speaker 4: loves this. You know, like that's how I, I don't,
- 19:19Speaker 4: I think Kim is like.
- 19:20Speaker 2: The only reason she's not going to love it is
- 19:22Speaker 2: because she has kids and because Taylor is such a
- 19:25Speaker 2: big deal. And because the kids friends are going to
- 19:29Speaker 2: know this and they're going to be like, yeah, don't
- 19:31Speaker 2: you know what this song is about? There's no way
- 19:33Speaker 2: that North isn't talking with her little friends at 11
- 19:36Speaker 2: or 12 years old that she is, that they're not like,
- 19:39Speaker 2: you know what the story is really about. And there
- 19:41Speaker 2: might be a moment where North being sassy like you
- 19:46Speaker 2: as your kids get older you start having like arguments
- 19:49Speaker 2: and whether it's political or whatever, and you're like screaming
- 19:51Speaker 2: at your kid and you're like, but you don't get it.
- 19:54Speaker 2: I've been on this earth longer. Like, so whatever. So she's,
- 19:57Speaker 2: we already know that North, you know, speaks your mind.
- 20:01Speaker 2: So that is where I think she might not love it.
- 20:04Speaker 2: at this time and why she's not addressing it, which
- 20:07Speaker 2: I actually think is probably wise. Don't address it. But
- 20:13Speaker 2: I also think she doesn't want to admit what she
- 20:15Speaker 2: did is wrong. So I get that. But what I
- 20:17Speaker 2: do think could be a great lesson to the bully,
- 20:21Speaker 2: whether you're Kim Kardashian doing something that maybe even your
- 20:25Speaker 2: husband made you do, we don't know, or together, we
- 20:29Speaker 2: don't know. I'm just saying they're divorced now. But like
- 20:33Speaker 2: you did this thing She could honestly say right now,
- 20:38Speaker 2: you know, when I did this, it was not to
- 20:42Speaker 2: ruin Taylor's career. I did not think that she would
- 20:45Speaker 2: be suicidal or never do another song. That was not
- 20:48Speaker 2: in my intention when I did this. But the lesson
- 20:51Speaker 2: to be learned from everybody, whether you're a 12-year-old being
- 20:54Speaker 2: a bitch to someone in seventh grade or you're 50,
- 20:58Speaker 2: know that this type of shit is can really affect people,
- 21:03Speaker 2: even if it wasn't your intention to affect them that much.
- 21:06Speaker 2: And even if they strive and are doing well afterwards,
- 21:11Speaker 2: it still doesn't mean that what you did was any
- 21:13Speaker 2: less painful just because you didn't destroy them doesn't mean
- 21:17Speaker 2: that it was any less painful to the person that
- 21:19Speaker 2: wasn't destroyed. It was still awful. And that's what I
- 21:22Speaker 2: love about the lesson. And that Kim can learn that
- 21:25Speaker 2: lesson too. And people should learn from Kim's perspective. A
- 21:27Speaker 2: lot of people are Kim's in situations and they need
- 21:29Speaker 2: to learn from it too.
- 21:30Speaker 4: Yeah, if Kim did that, there would be blowback. But
- 21:35Speaker 4: I would be like, oh, there we go. I can
- 21:38Speaker 4: watch the Kardashians now. But I don't know if we'll
- 21:40Speaker 4: be able to if Kris is in jail.
- 21:43Speaker 2: Oh, coming up soon. Wait, but also the photo that
- 21:47Speaker 2: they shared, there's been so many articles from page six, whatever.
- 21:50Speaker 2: This is one where it's cut from like at Kim's waist,
- 21:53Speaker 2: but there was one where they were standing together and
- 21:55Speaker 2: Kim was pregnant and it wasn't a flattering photo and
- 21:58Speaker 2: she didn't enjoy being pregnant. And everyone's like, okay, page six,
- 22:02Speaker 2: like great photo that you chose. Wouldn't they choose like
- 22:04Speaker 2: an ugly photo?
- 22:05Speaker 4: I just love it.
- 22:06Speaker 6: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
- 22:09Speaker 6: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
- 22:13Speaker 6: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
- 22:16Speaker 6: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
- 22:18Speaker 6: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
- 22:20Speaker 6: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
- 22:24Speaker 6: in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or free
- 22:28Speaker 6: click and collect.
- 22:29Speaker 2: So easy.
- 22:30Speaker 6: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.
- 22:35Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
- 22:38Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
- 22:42Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
- 22:46Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
- 22:49Speaker 4: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
- 22:52Speaker 4: the Emmys, and I have police complaints filed against me.
- 22:55Speaker 1: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
- 22:57Speaker 1: what would you do if it was given back?
- 23:00Speaker 5: Where did that need come from where you thought that
- 23:03Speaker 5: you had to.
- 23:03Speaker 4: Succeed in order to feel loved? He said, I have
- 23:06Speaker 4: a work dad. I need a home dad. What happens next?
- 23:08Speaker 4: When I came in, he started crying. Everybody in life
- 23:11Speaker 4: encounters hardships.
- 23:12Speaker 5: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
- 23:16Speaker 5: go through.
- 23:17Speaker 4: It's about what happens next.
- 23:18Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all.
- 23:20Speaker 4: I realized how valuable every day was.
- 23:21Speaker 2: You're worth the work.
- 23:23Speaker 4: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
- 23:25Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
- 23:27Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
- 23:30Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
- 23:41Speaker 2: So is there anything more about the Taylor Swift? Well, yeah.
- 23:44Speaker 4: The big drama was the hooded sweatshirt that she gave me. Yes.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Spilled on.
- 23:50Speaker 4: Spilled on because I get this Erewhon breakfast sandwich pretty
- 23:53Speaker 4: much every day. And the egg is always cooked through.
- 23:56Speaker 4: It's never exploded. And so I took a bite like
- 24:00Speaker 4: I usually do, and it explodes all over my brand new.
- 24:04Speaker 2: So you got the PR box, which was that bracelet.
- 24:06Speaker 4: Yeah, the bracelet and a hooded sweatshirt and a record.
- 24:09Speaker 2: And sweatpants or just a sweatshirt?
- 24:10Speaker 4: Sweatpants.
- 24:10Speaker 2: Okay, all sweatsuit.
- 24:12Speaker 4: And a record and a note from Taylor. I will
- 24:15Speaker 4: say the old notes used to say Spencer, but she's busy.
- 24:18Speaker 4: She doesn't have to write. I have a long name. Um, so,
- 24:24Speaker 4: and I spilled all over it. So for the last
- 24:25Speaker 4: three days, Heidi is so sick of me asking, I
- 24:28Speaker 4: keep on saying, so what do you think? You think
- 24:30Speaker 4: I can email Tree and just say, hey, you know,
- 24:32Speaker 4: like I'm trying to decide if I'm going to email
- 24:36Speaker 4: the most powerful person in the world right now and
- 24:38Speaker 4: be like, can I get a new sweatshirt? And everyone,
- 24:40Speaker 4: so I asked everyone on Snapchat, like, do not, like,
- 24:43Speaker 4: just keep it moving.
- 24:44Speaker 2: What was the story with this Tree woman? And, oh,
- 24:48Speaker 2: maybe it was I want to say it was a
- 24:50Speaker 2: blind item reporter that was the one that said that
- 24:54Speaker 2: the Travis and Taylor thing was not real. I think
- 24:57Speaker 2: maybe Dubois put that out.
- 24:59Speaker 4: Not Tree. It was Travis's publicist.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Said it.
- 25:03Speaker 4: To a makeup artist or something.
- 25:04Speaker 2: And then Tree was like furious. Yeah.
- 25:07Speaker 4: Tree was the one that stepped in. Can we stop these,
- 25:09Speaker 4: you know, like burn down the house over there at
- 25:13Speaker 4: Dubois or whatever.
- 25:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 25:14Speaker 4: Which she's nice to me. So she puts my spotted items.
- 25:18Speaker 4: So I'm in there. I want to be spotted. It's
- 25:22Speaker 4: hard balance.
- 25:23Speaker 2: No problem.
- 25:24Speaker 4: But yeah, she.
- 25:25Speaker 2: Got marked out. So the guys that are mentioned in
- 25:28Speaker 2: these articles, I don't even know who these people are.
- 25:31Speaker 2: Who is Joe Alwyn?
- 25:33Speaker 4: God, you're so funny. So she was with Joe for
- 25:36Speaker 4: like six years.
- 25:36Speaker 2: And he is a singer-actor.
- 25:37Speaker 4: He's an actor. But he actually has writing credits on
- 25:40Speaker 4: one of her last projects. He makes $ 3 million a
- 25:42Speaker 4: year Off of, you know, she let him write a
- 25:48Speaker 4: song with him. He gets $ 3 million a year in
- 25:52Speaker 4: publishing money.
- 25:53Speaker 5: Good.
- 25:53Speaker 6: I know.
- 25:54Speaker 4: I mean, what a nice freaking ex. God. And then
- 25:58Speaker 4: Matt Healy was the guy that most, I guess, people said,
- 26:03Speaker 4: all the songs are written about. And people don't understand
- 26:05Speaker 4: that it seemed like a short relationship. How could she
- 26:08Speaker 4: have so much emotion for him? And then everyone in
- 26:11Speaker 4: the comment section is like, have you never heard of
- 26:12Speaker 4: a situationship? And, you know, a lot of people relate
- 26:15Speaker 4: to these like hot and fast, heavy.
- 26:17Speaker 2: Or they kind of were like, it seemed like it
- 26:19Speaker 2: might have been more of an emotional relationship, situationship, emotional relationship,
- 26:25Speaker 2: something with this. guy and that also was he the
- 26:29Speaker 2: one that was doing drugs who does.
- 26:30Speaker 4: Drugs he was like her fans hated this guy because
- 26:33Speaker 4: he said you know i don't i don't want to
- 26:36Speaker 4: say allegedly maybe a racist comment something about ice spice
- 26:40Speaker 4: or which is ironic that then she uses ice spice
- 26:43Speaker 4: and you know she likes.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Ice spice a lot she was that's where she was
- 26:47Speaker 2: watching in coachella.
- 26:48Speaker 4: Yeah but this was pre any of that so it's
- 26:51Speaker 4: a you know she's so good and this p making
- 26:54Speaker 4: i was like wow You know, I just made that connection.
- 26:57Speaker 4: So this guy, Matty Healy, he's the lead singer of
- 27:00Speaker 4: 1975 on some rock band. So he's successful in his
- 27:05Speaker 4: own thing. And so the song about him is the
- 27:08Speaker 4: world's shortest man or whatever. And so I think he
- 27:12Speaker 4: was very, I think they had a great, like they
- 27:15Speaker 4: love music and singing, I'm guessing, but I think he,
- 27:18Speaker 4: they partied too hard and just said, I think he's
- 27:21Speaker 4: too much of the rock star, but she has some
- 27:23Speaker 4: lines about like, she'd rather burn her whole life down
- 27:28Speaker 4: than listen to all this, you know, gripe, you know,
- 27:31Speaker 4: like her, her fandom trying to tell her what to
- 27:33Speaker 4: do and how to live. She'd rather burn her life
- 27:36Speaker 4: down than listening to everyone trying to like chime in
- 27:40Speaker 4: and chime in, like I'll burn my whole life down.
- 27:42Speaker 4: I love that.
- 27:43Speaker 2: Okay.
- 27:44Speaker 4: And I was like, whatever.
- 27:45Speaker 2: And then she does talk about Travis a little bit
- 27:48Speaker 2: in the So High School song.
- 27:50Speaker 4: She's kissing while his friends are playing GTA, that one.
- 27:54Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 27:54Speaker 4: I was like, how young are his friends? They're like
- 27:56Speaker 4: playing video games to the side. I'm not even allowed
- 27:59Speaker 4: to play video games.
- 28:00Speaker 2: And then she does another song. And the manuscript is
- 28:04Speaker 2: about John Mayer talking about a large age gap and
- 28:07Speaker 2: that she wished he was 30. But then after... they
- 28:11Speaker 2: broke up. She was so distraught. She was only in
- 28:13Speaker 2: her mother's bed.
- 28:14Speaker 4: So the lesson from Taylor Swift is you can have
- 28:19Speaker 4: everything and really just have a hard time, you know,
- 28:22Speaker 4: because I always really think once you're in the hundred
- 28:24Speaker 4: million world dollars, like what could be wrong? And then
- 28:28Speaker 4: she can give you 30 records that show you.
- 28:31Speaker 2: Humans are humans. And when you have a human relationship,
- 28:34Speaker 2: whether it's a friend or a colleague or a lover,
- 28:36Speaker 2: and it, it doesn't go the way you wanted, then
- 28:41Speaker 2: it's going to be hurtful. Unless you really are like
- 28:46Speaker 2: the devil, it's going to be hurtful. It's going to
- 28:49Speaker 2: affect you. It's going to give you anxiety or whatever
- 28:53Speaker 2: your thing is. Okay, so let me see if there's
- 28:58Speaker 2: anything else here.
- 28:59Speaker 4: That's Mattie Healy.
- 29:01Speaker 2: Mattie Healy about the situationship. I love that expression, by
- 29:04Speaker 2: the way. And then we have the Joe Alwyn wanted
- 29:07Speaker 2: to keep his relationship personal. Those are six relationships. We
- 29:11Speaker 2: got Travis. Then we got Travis's girlfriend, his ex-girlfriend, Kayla Nicole. And,
- 29:18Speaker 2: I mean— I do kind of feel for her a
- 29:21Speaker 2: little bit in that she has her own thing going,
- 29:24Speaker 2: and anytime she speaks about anything, the Swifties come for her.
- 29:28Speaker 2: But that's not Taylor Swift's problem.
- 29:30Speaker 4: And they could be bots.
- 29:31Speaker 2: And they could be bots, but also she can't– even
- 29:34Speaker 2: if she was like, hey, everybody, lay off Kayla. Stop
- 29:37Speaker 2: talking about Kayla. It's not her job to do that.
- 29:40Speaker 2: And that's Kayla's thing. And she needs to maybe focus
- 29:46Speaker 2: on some element of being an influencer that has nothing
- 29:50Speaker 2: to do. And also know that even three years from now,
- 29:53Speaker 2: if she's the model for some clothing line, there's going
- 29:57Speaker 2: to be comments in there. From Taylor's fans being little bitches.
- 30:02Speaker 2: And that's just, that's what it is.
- 30:04Speaker 4: You know, you also chose to date a public high
- 30:08Speaker 4: profile athlete. So once you go in- That world will
- 30:14Speaker 4: be out. You're not dating a private lawyer or a stockbroker. Exactly.
- 30:19Speaker 2: Once you decide to date Tom Schwartz on Vanderpump Rules
- 30:22Speaker 2: like the joke, girl, get ready for people to have
- 30:25Speaker 2: an opinion.
- 30:25Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's nobody's fault.
- 30:27Speaker 2: That's part of it. Just know it.
- 30:29Speaker 4: But now it's Taylor's turn.
- 30:31Speaker 2: Do you think they're going to get married? 100%.
- 30:33Speaker 4: I think she's going to have a baby. I got
- 30:35Speaker 4: in multiple arguments with people that they're like, this is
- 30:38Speaker 4: all for show. I'm like, no, it's not.
- 30:41Speaker 2: I have an episode where I predicted when they would
- 30:44Speaker 2: get engaged. And it's May. It's around the corner.
- 30:49Speaker 4: I hope so. I think maybe the Paris show.
- 30:51Speaker 5: You know.
- 30:51Speaker 4: That's what I said.
- 30:52Speaker 2: The Paris show and like something because I think he's
- 30:55Speaker 2: sort of basic. And Diablo Cody, the screenwriter, is the
- 30:59Speaker 2: one who gave me that idea. So I don't want
- 31:01Speaker 2: to take it completely for myself. But I think that's
- 31:05Speaker 2: in May. And yeah, I mean, I think she's like 33, right?
- 31:10Speaker 2: So I think she wants to get on the baby train.
- 31:12Speaker 2: And I think she wants to do it right. I
- 31:14Speaker 2: think she wants to be not that it's wrong, but
- 31:16Speaker 2: I think she wants to do it traditional. For herself
- 31:19Speaker 2: and for her parents, I think she wants to be
- 31:21Speaker 2: married and then get pregnant. That's my opinion.
- 31:24Speaker 4: This is going to be– the royals should just retire.
- 31:27Speaker 4: There's like– after this, there's no more– I think they
- 31:29Speaker 4: kind of are when you get to the royals. No,
- 31:30Speaker 4: I mean, but now it's a wrap. Like there's no
- 31:32Speaker 4: respectfully– you know, there's no more Meghan Harry. There's no
- 31:35Speaker 4: more King. Like once they're married, it's good. Wait, let
- 31:38Speaker 4: me go to– That would be big in page six
- 31:40Speaker 4: to be posted.
- 31:41Speaker 2: Let me just go to the– what's going on with
- 31:43Speaker 2: the royals since you're interested. Did you get the jam
- 31:46Speaker 2: from Meghan Markle?
- 31:47Speaker 4: No. I thought it was coffee. She had the coffee first.
- 31:51Speaker 2: Just coffee?
- 31:52Speaker 4: She was at that coffee shop. You didn't see that?
- 31:54Speaker 4: Or she was like roasting beans or whatever.
- 31:57Speaker 2: Oh, just working at a coffee shop for fun?
- 31:59Speaker 4: For the social media.
- 32:01Speaker 2: Like Ben Affleck going and making donuts at Dunkin' Donuts.
- 32:04Speaker 4: Or Sheena at Chili's. Yeah. I love that. I guess people, her, Brock,
- 32:09Speaker 4: her husband did like a TikTok, like, please go. I
- 32:12Speaker 4: can't even do Australian. And he's like, go give her
- 32:15Speaker 4: the comment section. Give her some love.
- 32:17Speaker 2: He's like, give her some love. No, she and Katie
- 32:20Speaker 2: did a commercial for Chili's. It's really cute. And it's
- 32:22Speaker 2: Chili's kind of up in their game being like, we
- 32:24Speaker 2: have espresso martinis. So feel like you're living the Vanderpump
- 32:28Speaker 2: Rules life with an espresso martini. Like that's the hot drink.
- 32:31Speaker 2: But yeah, they look cute in it.
- 32:33Speaker 4: I thought it was great, but no. Um, the jam,
- 32:36Speaker 4: you know, I bet Heidi ordered it for me. She
- 32:38Speaker 4: knows so much. I love Megan and suits.
- 32:40Speaker 2: So you think so?
- 32:41Speaker 4: Okay.
- 32:42Speaker 2: So you, you are a Megan fan or huge one.
- 32:45Speaker 4: So do you think.
- 32:46Speaker 2: This is a good move creating this company? American Riviera Orchard.
- 32:50Speaker 2: A lot of people think it's a very long name,
- 32:53Speaker 2: but I guess that's the actual name of the orchard
- 32:56Speaker 2: in which she lives on or where she's grabbing her
- 32:58Speaker 2: berries from.
- 32:59Speaker 4: I would be more excited about that she figured out
- 33:03Speaker 4: a way to do a reality show without saying she's
- 33:05Speaker 4: on a reality show, which I feel like the polo
- 33:08Speaker 4: show is the way to do that.
- 33:10Speaker 2: What's the polo show?
- 33:13Speaker 4: She's executive producing with Harry and I don't even know this.
- 33:16Speaker 4: Following the professional polo, which is such a good world.
- 33:21Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't even know this, which we've never seen.
- 33:24Speaker 2: I've only been to a polo thing twice out in Coachella.
- 33:27Speaker 2: So right before Coachella started, we were out there and
- 33:30Speaker 2: they do the polo and my friend has her booth
- 33:34Speaker 2: or whatever you want to call it. And you kind
- 33:36Speaker 2: of dress up and it's fun. I wasn't watching it
- 33:38Speaker 2: at all, but it's fun just to see it.
- 33:41Speaker 4: So what is that world i want to know that
- 33:43Speaker 4: well that's smart when we live in santa barbara heidi
- 33:46Speaker 4: actually because she would go with her friend to the
- 33:49Speaker 4: santa barbara polo grounds and she kept saying this is
- 33:52Speaker 4: a reality show this reality show so she said it
- 33:54Speaker 4: for years so i was like hey your show is
- 33:57Speaker 4: getting made she said i was like the one thing
- 33:59Speaker 4: you're missing you didn't have harry and megan on your
- 34:01Speaker 4: pitch but that world is the richest people ever and they.
- 34:07Speaker 2: All come together they drink unlike um race horses, they're
- 34:11Speaker 2: not little. They're normal-sized men, right?
- 34:14Speaker 4: No, I mean, it's more of the owners, too, you're getting.
- 34:16Speaker 4: You're getting owners. No, these are guys that are famous.
- 34:20Speaker 4: Camacho or whatever.
- 34:21Speaker 2: Famous.
- 34:22Speaker 4: That one Argentinian guy.
- 34:23Speaker 2: And not that there's anything wrong with men who are
- 34:26Speaker 2: little who are jockeys.
- 34:26Speaker 4: No, they're not jockeys. These are big men. These are
- 34:30Speaker 4: men that lots of women and men, everyone loves them.
- 34:34Speaker 2: Ah, and then you've got the rich owners.
- 34:35Speaker 4: You've got the rich owners. You've got everyone hanging around
- 34:37Speaker 4: the world. And then you have our new... So Harry's
- 34:40Speaker 4: in the matches.
- 34:41Speaker 2: So they're just EPing this or what.
- 34:43Speaker 4: Are they doing? I saw cameras on the field, like
- 34:45Speaker 4: BTS shot. In Santa Barbara? No, it was on a different,
- 34:49Speaker 4: maybe in Florida, I think.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Oh.
- 34:51Speaker 4: And there the cameras are shooting it like they're on
- 34:54Speaker 4: Episode of the Hills. You know, it's got, he's in
- 34:56Speaker 4: the full outfit, she's there.
- 34:58Speaker 2: And then he, I guess, just announced like that he
- 35:04Speaker 2: is not, no longer British. What was this? Prince Harry
- 35:09Speaker 2: officially renounces British residency and lists U.S. as his new
- 35:13Speaker 2: country on the documents.
- 35:15Speaker 4: Could be a tax thing, you know. Also, you know,
- 35:18Speaker 4: maybe he didn't want to pay pounds and Uncle Sam.
- 35:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really– yeah, I don't know. But, yeah,
- 35:25Speaker 2: I think they're going to– now they tried– The documentary situation,
- 35:31Speaker 2: they tried the podcasting.
- 35:33Speaker 4: Let's go.
- 35:34Speaker 2: And they realized it was harder than it is. And
- 35:37Speaker 2: now they just like follow us around. That's what people
- 35:40Speaker 2: want to see.
- 35:40Speaker 6: I mean.
- 35:41Speaker 2: And if we're going to be with other really rich
- 35:43Speaker 2: people hopping on private jets.
- 35:45Speaker 4: Good looking people too. Yeah.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Just throw in a charity event here or there and
- 35:48Speaker 2: it looks like you care about people.
- 35:50Speaker 4: I love it. The best clip though, I don't know
- 35:52Speaker 4: if you saw it online, but after like the trophy ceremony,
- 35:54Speaker 4: there was like this young.
- 35:56Speaker 2: The Polo Trophy ceremony?
- 35:57Speaker 4: Yeah, there's this young woman standing next to Harry or whatever,
- 36:01Speaker 4: and you see Meghan.
- 36:02Speaker 2: Oh, this is back.
- 36:03Speaker 4: That was old footage?
- 36:05Speaker 2: That's kind of old. Was she sort of taking it
- 36:08Speaker 2: and taking part of it? No, this is like- Oh,
- 36:10Speaker 2: there's a new one.
- 36:10Speaker 4: This is like last weekend. Okay, sorry. And she's standing
- 36:13Speaker 4: next to him, and you assume she whispers, like, don't
- 36:17Speaker 4: stand there. And the lady moves, and then she said
- 36:19Speaker 4: it was- Just like, this is the show I want
- 36:21Speaker 4: to watch.
- 36:22Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
- 36:24Speaker 4: We're good to go. Let's go Netflix.
- 36:26Speaker 2: Yeah, I say go for it. I mean, she's, you know,
- 36:29Speaker 2: beautiful and stylish. And I think it would be a hit.
- 36:34Speaker 2: I think people are intrigued. I mean, they may not,
- 36:36Speaker 2: people may not like her, but they're intrigued.
- 36:39Speaker 4: We've talked about it like two years ago and the
- 36:41Speaker 4: fact she still hasn't figured out a way to get
- 36:43Speaker 4: in with Taylor yet. Like she should have been Ice Spice,
- 36:46Speaker 4: you know, like how Ice Spice jumped in with Taylor,
- 36:50Speaker 4: the bestie. Like that should be Megan. Like her team
- 36:53Speaker 4: did not figure out a way that everyone could negotiate
- 36:56Speaker 4: where Megan and Taylor could hang out and Travis and
- 37:00Speaker 4: Harry could do polo. It's like such a no brainer.
- 37:04Speaker 2: Right. Well, you know, Travis has his new show, which
- 37:07Speaker 2: I think is a good idea.
- 37:08Speaker 4: So if Harry goes on, are you smarter than celebrity?
- 37:10Speaker 4: You know, you got 10 million or something for that.
- 37:13Speaker 2: I think that sounds like a really fun show.
- 37:15Speaker 5: Oh, I.
- 37:16Speaker 2: You should be one of the celebrities.
- 37:17Speaker 4: I better start studying. Yeah.
- 37:19Speaker 2: I mean, it was a fun show. It's a great
- 37:22Speaker 2: combo of like updating an older show with celebrities and
- 37:25Speaker 2: having a likable guy that clearly, he can clearly do it.
- 37:29Speaker 2: It's not a hard job to host a show, but he,
- 37:31Speaker 2: you know, hosts his podcast. He's a good personality. He
- 37:33Speaker 2: was on his own reality show before her about like
- 37:35Speaker 2: chasing Kelsey or chasing Travis or whatever.
- 37:38Speaker 4: Dating show.
- 37:39Speaker 2: Yeah, about dating. So there we go.
- 37:42Speaker 4: I'm surprised that wasn't in your box from Peacock.
- 37:46Speaker 2: Oh, so I got a gift from Peacock. And I
- 37:52Speaker 2: want to say, I want to say, I don't know
- 37:55Speaker 2: how long this was in the works, but I swear
- 37:57Speaker 2: to God, I think I gave them the idea to
- 37:59Speaker 2: bring back these old shows. Because a few months ago,
- 38:03Speaker 2: I kept talking about, oh my God, you guys, Million
- 38:06Speaker 2: Dollar Matchmaker is on Netflix. And it's so fun to
- 38:11Speaker 2: watch these shows from 2008 when Patti Stanger had her
- 38:14Speaker 2: old faith. No one had lips. No one had eyelashes.
- 38:18Speaker 2: The outfits were horrible, everything. And I'm like– and it's
- 38:21Speaker 2: fun to– it's like calming to watch that time of
- 38:24Speaker 2: life because you kind of remember like what your life
- 38:26Speaker 2: was like and everyone has Blackberries and flip phones and
- 38:31Speaker 2: it's just like whatever. So then they go, OK, now
- 38:33Speaker 2: we're going to– now I don't know if these shows
- 38:35Speaker 2: are going to– how long they're going to be on Peacock,
- 38:36Speaker 2: but they're all the old shows. So I got a
- 38:39Speaker 2: big thing. And each one is two chocolates with Bravo
- 38:42Speaker 2: and Peacock on it. But each one says a different show.
- 38:46Speaker 4: That's so funny. I thought they were all like USB.
- 38:48Speaker 4: I thought you were the only one that got them.
- 38:50Speaker 4: I was like, they sent her that many USBs? No,
- 38:52Speaker 4: you can watch all.
- 38:54Speaker 2: These shows on Peacock. And so last night I watched
- 38:58Speaker 2: Tamara's Getting Married, Tamara from Real Housewives of O.C., because
- 39:02Speaker 2: I was in it. Peter and I went to the
- 39:05Speaker 2: Vegas bachelorette party. Couple bachelorette party. Peter went with them
- 39:13Speaker 2: and Terry Dubrow to the strip club while I was
- 39:16Speaker 2: with Heather Dubrow and Tamara like gambling at the Palms.
- 39:23Speaker 4: Palms was popping.
- 39:24Speaker 2: It was the spot when the Maloops had.
- 39:26Speaker 4: It in the first open.
- 39:30Speaker 2: And then the wedding was at the St. Regis. And
- 39:35Speaker 2: I brought my sister, Shannon, because Peter and the boys
- 39:37Speaker 2: had a plan to go to Whistler. And I was like, go,
- 39:40Speaker 2: I'm going to this wedding. And Like I realized I
- 39:45Speaker 2: wore red and I go, oh, my God. Before the
- 39:47Speaker 2: show started, I go, I just found out it's wrong
- 39:48Speaker 2: to wear red to a wedding or something. It's supposed
- 39:50Speaker 2: to be like that means you slept with a groom, whatever.
- 39:53Speaker 2: But there were like eight women wearing red at that wedding.
- 39:56Speaker 2: Bright colors.
- 39:56Speaker 4: Maybe somebody did.
- 39:57Speaker 2: Gretchen was like the bright colors of that like era.
- 40:01Speaker 2: Like it was a little cheese, but her dress still
- 40:04Speaker 2: totally stood up Tamra's. Like her look, totally timeless, gorgeous.
- 40:09Speaker 2: And so I watched that last night. But you could
- 40:11Speaker 2: watch them all on Peacock. And they weren't available until
- 40:14Speaker 2: this week. No, until like last week. None of those
- 40:17Speaker 2: were available. You can go far back in like OC
- 40:20Speaker 2: and watch like the original episodes. But these shorter shows
- 40:24Speaker 2: that were only like New York City prep.
- 40:27Speaker 4: What's the NeNe one? Yeah.
- 40:29Speaker 2: Oh, like, yeah, NeNe had a spinoff NeNe's wedding.
- 40:31Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
- 40:33Speaker 2: Like a billion-dollar decorator with Martin Ballard. There's like 15
- 40:39Speaker 2: of them.
- 40:41Speaker 4: You gave them the idea.
- 40:42Speaker 2: And the Rachel Zoe. That's the Rachel Zoe project is great.
- 40:46Speaker 2: The clothes and her.
- 40:48Speaker 4: These people were so.
- 40:50Speaker 2: And she was so thin, and everybody thought she's so skinny,
- 40:53Speaker 2: Rachel Zoe. And her husband doesn't seem like he's. I'm
- 40:58Speaker 2: just saying, I'm not saying I said people didn't think
- 41:01Speaker 2: he was heterosexual. Cut to 15 years later, they're still married.
- 41:05Speaker 2: She gave birth to two kids. They're still a happy family.
- 41:10Speaker 4: So a lot of people are that thin now too.
- 41:12Speaker 2: Some people are just thin.
- 41:13Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 41:14Speaker 2: But yeah. Okay. Now, you know, I like to go
- 41:18Speaker 2: on the TikTok. This girl, Becca Day, B-E-K-A-H-D-A-Y. This is
- 41:24Speaker 2: her work. But A lot of people are going deep
- 41:30Speaker 2: dives on Corey Gamble, Kris Jenner's long-term boyfriend, and where
- 41:35Speaker 2: he came from and what his history is. And some
- 41:39Speaker 2: people think he is– one time Kanye said he's a
- 41:44Speaker 2: plant that he works for the government or a CIA.
- 41:47Speaker 2: One time he said that in an interview, but people
- 41:49Speaker 2: are like, Kanye's crazy. He– In this girl's deep dive,
- 41:53Speaker 2: he played football. He was a good student in high school.
- 41:57Speaker 2: He went to Morehouse College. He got his business degree.
- 42:00Speaker 2: So he had a pretty exemplatory good boy life. Then
- 42:05Speaker 2: right out of college, he was on jets with all
- 42:08Speaker 2: these moguls. He's known Diddy for years. He knew this guy.
- 42:14Speaker 2: Do you remember this show?
- 42:15Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 42:16Speaker 2: This was G's and Gents or something, short-lived show on
- 42:19Speaker 2: MTV where it was about Because people would see P.
- 42:23Speaker 2: Diddy have this guy holding an umbrella and he was
- 42:26Speaker 2: dressed like an old-fashioned butler kind of. And he had
- 42:30Speaker 2: a short-lived show. Maybe Peacock would like to buy that one.
- 42:34Speaker 2: Where it was like how to be a gentleman, like
- 42:37Speaker 2: executive assistant for like a big hip-hop mogul. And so
- 42:41Speaker 2: they were friends. And she just goes very deep into
- 42:47Speaker 2: what it is. So there is a lot of photos
- 42:50Speaker 2: with all of them with P. Diddy. But that doesn't
- 42:53Speaker 2: mean anything. You know what I mean? Like you're with
- 42:56Speaker 2: popular people and you're rising up and being famous. And,
- 42:59Speaker 2: of course, P. Diddy and them are taking photos. Someone
- 43:02Speaker 2: went down all the way down into Kris Jenner's Instagram
- 43:05Speaker 2: from 15 years ago and collected every single photo that
- 43:08Speaker 2: she's ever taken with him. And what do you think
- 43:12Speaker 2: is going on here?
- 43:13Speaker 4: You know, as crazy as Kanye is, allegedly, you know,
- 43:19Speaker 4: he wouldn't agree with that.
- 43:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 43:22Speaker 4: He was around Corey the most, you know, out of all.
- 43:26Speaker 4: So the fact that he is this suspicious of him
- 43:29Speaker 4: and would be like, we haven't met in your family.
- 43:32Speaker 4: You know, that's what he said on that one episode.
- 43:33Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 43:34Speaker 4: I deep dove after I was a good hour into
- 43:37Speaker 4: TikToks last night.
- 43:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 43:39Speaker 4: And Heidi's like, what are you doing? I'm like, research, honey.
- 43:43Speaker 4: So that makes me get extra suspicious because he's not
- 43:46Speaker 4: saying that about anybody else. You know, there's a lot
- 43:49Speaker 4: of people in that entourage. And then you go back
- 43:51Speaker 4: and you're like, how did he become Justin Bieber's tour manager?
- 43:55Speaker 4: And then the Diddy, Justin Bieber stuff that is so creepy.
- 43:59Speaker 4: I don't care what anybody that when he's like 15
- 44:02Speaker 4: and he's like, I'm doing 48 hours. Have you seen this?
- 44:04Speaker 2: Wait, tell about this.
- 44:05Speaker 4: So Justin Bieber does 48 hours with Diddy at Diddy's house.
- 44:09Speaker 4: When he's like 14. When he's 14. And it's just
- 44:12Speaker 4: so weird. And then you connect.
- 44:14Speaker 2: It's like his camp.
- 44:15Speaker 4: Yeah, his camp.
- 44:16Speaker 2: Which Usher also went through.
- 44:18Speaker 4: And Diddy was Usher's legal guardian when he was. And
- 44:22Speaker 4: he's already said the stuff he was exposed, you know.
- 44:25Speaker 4: So that connection that.
- 44:27Speaker 2: And you know, these parents are like, oh my God,
- 44:29Speaker 2: my kid's talented.
- 44:30Speaker 4: He doesn't even know what's going on.
- 44:32Speaker 2: Okay, he's going to be a star, just like the
- 44:34Speaker 2: people whose daughters thought they were learning music from R. Kelly, right?
- 44:39Speaker 2: You know, they, they were not, they're like, I had
- 44:42Speaker 2: this talented kid that has been plucked from obscurity. Like,
- 44:45Speaker 2: what do I know?
- 44:46Speaker 4: You know, quiet on that set thing and all these kids,
- 44:48Speaker 4: like Heidi's like, where are the parents? I'm like, they
- 44:50Speaker 4: think they're on Nickelodeon. They're with, they're on a job.
- 44:52Speaker 4: They're making all this money. Like, you don't think this is,
- 44:55Speaker 4: you know.
- 44:55Speaker 2: And, and like, I do want to say there are,
- 44:57Speaker 2: there are pedophiles in every single industry, you know, and
- 45:02Speaker 2: the pedophile seeks out, where there might be a crack
- 45:06Speaker 2: and somehow they can convince a parent that they're good
- 45:08Speaker 2: for the child or whatever. So for people to think
- 45:12Speaker 2: like it's all pedophiles in Hollywood, that is not the case.
- 45:15Speaker 2: But are there bad people in this industry? Yeah. Are
- 45:18Speaker 2: there bad people in churches? Yes. At schools? In all industries,
- 45:23Speaker 2: it exists. But, you know.
- 45:25Speaker 4: So that was where, you know, I'm not saying I
- 45:28Speaker 4: don't know anything. I'm just a TikToker here.
- 45:30Speaker 2: And we're not saying that P. Diddy is a pedophile
- 45:33Speaker 2: or anything happened with Justin Bieber.
- 45:34Speaker 4: But these are the.
- 45:35Speaker 2: Things that are getting people to go because it's all
- 45:38Speaker 2: it's out there. There's videos.
- 45:40Speaker 4: There's there's photos.
- 45:42Speaker 2: And you're like, hmm, let me just put two and
- 45:44Speaker 2: two together for fun.
- 45:46Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 45:46Speaker 4: And then you're like, okay, so he was the tour manager.
- 45:50Speaker 4: And then right when Kris Jenner.
- 45:52Speaker 2: Leaves- Corey was the tour manager of Justin. Tour for Justin.
- 45:55Speaker 4: And then boom, now he's with Kris Jenner, right when
- 46:00Speaker 4: the Caitlyn stuff's ending and he's locked in.
- 46:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 46:03Speaker 4: And then how do you jump to like, you're hanging
- 46:04Speaker 4: out with Jeff Bezos. I know Kris is friends with
- 46:07Speaker 4: the new.
- 46:08Speaker 2: I think that's all through Kris being, from the very beginning,
- 46:14Speaker 2: Kris- besides her being super famous, but she was always
- 46:18Speaker 2: super charming. She soaked in, she basically learned how to
- 46:21Speaker 2: be a businesswoman from Robert Kardashian and his friends. She
- 46:25Speaker 2: did not go to college and she would know how
- 46:28Speaker 2: to be charming after every meeting, no matter what it was,
- 46:31Speaker 2: a gift would be sent and flowers. And so people
- 46:36Speaker 2: like her and she's likable. And then you know, of course,
- 46:40Speaker 2: Lauren Sanchez would like to be friends with Kris Jenner.
- 46:42Speaker 2: Who the fuck? Like you, of course you would. And
- 46:44Speaker 2: of course she wants to be friends with Lauren Sanchez
- 46:47Speaker 2: and Kris were running around the same circles 17 years
- 46:50Speaker 2: ago through Jillian Barbary. And they weren't, they didn't form
- 46:53Speaker 2: a friendship. Then they formed a friendship when she got
- 46:56Speaker 2: engaged to Jeff Bezos, but that's okay. You know, now
- 47:00Speaker 2: they're at the same level and go have some fun
- 47:02Speaker 2: on a yacht. I have no qualms about it. I
- 47:05Speaker 2: have no qualms about it, but, And then this is
- 47:08Speaker 2: her significant other. So, of course, they're going to invite
- 47:12Speaker 2: him in as your boyfriend. And same thing goes with
- 47:17Speaker 2: the Ellen DeGeneres. Ellen DeGeneres, when she had her show,
- 47:21Speaker 2: one day, like the last three years of Ellen's show,
- 47:25Speaker 2: I swear to God, every week, five days a week,
- 47:28Speaker 2: at least once a week, there was a Kardashian on
- 47:30Speaker 2: that show. Every week.
- 47:32Speaker 4: Oh, I thought it was ridiculous.
- 47:34Speaker 2: I was like, this is ridiculous. Whether it was Scott
- 47:37Speaker 2: or Courtney every week. I mean, if somebody wants to
- 47:41Speaker 2: add up how many times a Kardashian was on Ellen
- 47:44Speaker 2: show in the last three years, it was, they bought
- 47:47Speaker 2: a house right next to them at Madison club. Then
- 47:52Speaker 2: they were hanging out. And then he was like, here
- 47:55Speaker 2: are my girls. When they were getting married, there's a
- 47:57Speaker 2: video of them. And Corey's like, my two girls, Portia
- 48:01Speaker 2: and Ellen. Portia and Ellen were on a plane with
- 48:05Speaker 2: Corey because we're like, we're going to buy art. Now
- 48:08Speaker 2: Corey's an art aficionado.
- 48:10Speaker 4: But maybe he is. And watches. I see he's all
- 48:13Speaker 4: over watch talk.
- 48:13Speaker 2: But I mean, he probably does know more about luxury
- 48:16Speaker 2: watches and Ferraris than I do because I'm not buying
- 48:19Speaker 2: those things.
- 48:20Speaker 4: No, it's where it gets weird is- He's always.
- 48:23Speaker 2: Been nice to me. I will say that.
- 48:25Speaker 4: The new conspiracy on TikTok is, I'm sure it'll end
- 48:29Speaker 4: this week because she'll pop up on Instagram, but Chris-
- 48:31Speaker 4: fled the country is what people are saying because she
- 48:34Speaker 4: has not been seen since Diddy's house was raided because
- 48:37Speaker 4: supposedly her and Corey are on these tapes that's is
- 48:42Speaker 4: all allegedly is what the TikTok is saying which if
- 48:45Speaker 4: TikTok does get banned where are we going to get
- 48:47Speaker 4: all these stories from what's.
- 48:50Speaker 2: Great about podcasting is no one can take it down
- 48:57Speaker 2: from me but I am going to be more select
- 49:00Speaker 2: about what I spend time with my editor about what
- 49:04Speaker 2: to cut for the clips. And I'll tell you, as
- 49:06Speaker 2: juicy as this conversation was, this is not going to
- 49:09Speaker 2: be on TikTok because it won't get views. Anytime I
- 49:13Speaker 2: do a thing about the Kardashians, it does not get
- 49:15Speaker 2: views because I think they have power to keep those
- 49:19Speaker 2: things from being... seen. I just really do. Or they've,
- 49:22Speaker 2: or they've said, watch these 10 accounts that I think
- 49:26Speaker 2: know more information than not. I don't know.
- 49:28Speaker 4: I think it changed like three years ago. It was
- 49:30Speaker 4: like full, like you could, this would blow up. You know,
- 49:34Speaker 4: I think now the AI is definitely, oh, well.
- 49:37Speaker 2: So I'm like, but what's great is like, yeah. And, and,
- 49:40Speaker 2: but with some of these TikTokers who do do great
- 49:43Speaker 2: material and it's only a couple of minutes, they're not
- 49:46Speaker 2: going to get the following to do a podcast for
- 49:48Speaker 2: an hour. So it's like maybe TikTok going.
- 49:51Speaker 4: Away will help some artists.
- 49:54Speaker 2: Not that I want it to. I definitely don't want
- 49:56Speaker 2: any kind of censorship of any kind at all. And
- 50:00Speaker 2: I appreciate all the work that they do. That's why
- 50:02Speaker 2: I bring up TikTokers and reference them.
- 50:04Speaker 4: So boost this, TikTokers.
- 50:05Speaker 2: Boost it. Or if you want to cut it and
- 50:07Speaker 2: put it out there, that's fine.
- 50:09Speaker 4: Prove us wrong.
- 50:11Speaker 2: Maybe we will. But who knows? But there's a lot
- 50:14Speaker 2: of talk like that. But I also– when the raid
- 50:17Speaker 2: happened– And, you know, they were like, yeah, the raid
- 50:22Speaker 2: is– one of the things I saw about that with, again,
- 50:27Speaker 2: people that are supposedly inside talking about this P. Diddy
- 50:29Speaker 2: thing is the cops allegedly that did the raid, the SWAT,
- 50:35Speaker 2: whatever it was. That wasn't SWAT. I guess it was
- 50:37Speaker 2: just a raid. They didn't know whose house they were raiding.
- 50:41Speaker 2: And the theory behind that is because Diddy is so
- 50:45Speaker 2: connected– That if they told the police, hey, in two
- 50:51Speaker 2: hours we're going to Diddy's house, then Diddy would have known.
- 50:56Speaker 2: Like they– like he has connections with LAPD. So the
- 51:01Speaker 2: cops going allegedly were just– were not told what house
- 51:05Speaker 2: they were going to so that P. Diddy would be surprised.
- 51:08Speaker 4: I totally believe that as a small town when it
- 51:10Speaker 4: comes to these things. Another part of this conspiracy is
- 51:14Speaker 4: the Kim Porter factor.
- 51:15Speaker 2: Yes, who died.
- 51:16Speaker 4: Corey Gamble is in the photos next to the coroner
- 51:20Speaker 4: with Diddy.
- 51:21Speaker 2: The day she died of pneumonia.
- 51:23Speaker 4: Diddy's who had, I guess, said things about Diddy. I
- 51:27Speaker 4: don't know why she'd get murked out, but it is like, whoa,
- 51:31Speaker 4: she's like, why is Corey there with the dead body?
- 51:35Speaker 2: And I mean, these pneumonia heart attack deaths.
- 51:38Speaker 4: Have you seen Michael Clayton? They just put the needle
- 51:40Speaker 4: in between your toes. You see Michael Clayton with George Clooney?
- 51:44Speaker 2: Wait, what's the story?
- 51:46Speaker 4: The movie, Michael Clayton. Oh, the movie. With George Clooney.
- 51:49Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 51:49Speaker 4: Have you seen it?
- 51:51Speaker 2: No, but I mean, if it's a small injection.
- 51:54Speaker 4: Oh, they put it right between your toes.
- 51:56Speaker 2: You can't see the needle. So then when you go
- 51:57Speaker 2: on an autopsy. But the thing is, of all her
- 52:01Speaker 2: next of kin, we're all connected to P. Diddy. Someone
- 52:05Speaker 2: has to say, when someone dies of something like a
- 52:08Speaker 2: heart attack, whatever, someone has to say, I want an autopsy.
- 52:12Speaker 2: And unless the police actually think there was foul play,
- 52:17Speaker 2: then you pay for that. And it's about $ 2, 000. So
- 52:21Speaker 2: then you pay for that. And depending on the coroner
- 52:25Speaker 2: or the autopsy person, they go through their body and
- 52:28Speaker 2: they look for any scratch or any needle mark, whatever.
- 52:33Speaker 2: They might miss one. So what if it was like
- 52:36Speaker 2: in your tongue or something like it would be very hard,
- 52:38Speaker 2: a tiny needle of some injection to find everywhere in
- 52:42Speaker 2: every scalp. You could put it in your head. Like
- 52:43Speaker 2: where how would you see that if it's not just here?
- 52:46Speaker 2: Like it would be hard to detect. OK, I see
- 52:49Speaker 2: an unusual spot that looks like it was within the
- 52:52Speaker 2: last 24 hours. That looks like it could be an
- 52:54Speaker 2: injectable needle. And if there's some type of drug makes
- 52:59Speaker 2: your heart stop and it's undetectable, which who knows in
- 53:02Speaker 2: this world, it probably is. that could be something. Now,
- 53:05Speaker 2: was Kim Porter a mother of any of Diddy's kids
- 53:08Speaker 2: or did she just like work at the record place?
- 53:11Speaker 4: The, That I wouldn't know. But what's interesting is Kid
- 53:15Speaker 4: Cudi said that Diddy burned his car, blew up his car.
- 53:20Speaker 4: So we're not over here in conspiracy land if this
- 53:23Speaker 4: rapper is saying that Diddy, something happened and his car
- 53:26Speaker 4: exploded the next day. And supposedly Tupac was killed beefing
- 53:32Speaker 4: with Diddy.
- 53:33Speaker 2: I met with this manager years ago that was representing...
- 53:36Speaker 2: like Diddy and J-Lo, but he also had like comedians.
- 53:41Speaker 2: And I was interested. He wanted to like represent me,
- 53:43Speaker 2: but I went with this other guy just because I
- 53:45Speaker 2: felt like this guy was like too flashy and would
- 53:47Speaker 2: forget about me. Anyway, he said in his kind of
- 53:51Speaker 2: bragging about his company, he said, you know, we just
- 53:55Speaker 2: had a meeting with P. Diddy and he comes in
- 53:57Speaker 2: and he lays this gun on the table and And
- 54:01Speaker 2: I thought it was weird, but I also was like, well,
- 54:02Speaker 2: maybe that's what rappers do. Like, I didn't know this was, like, 1997.
- 54:06Speaker 2: So I'm like, is that how, like, rap, like, is
- 54:09Speaker 2: a gun almost like a cell phone at this point? Like,
- 54:11Speaker 2: I didn't know, like, I didn't necessarily think it meant, like,
- 54:14Speaker 2: that you could go off and you'd use it. I
- 54:16Speaker 2: just thought it was, like. I don't know. Just not
- 54:18Speaker 2: something I'm familiar with. I've never owned a gun, but like.
- 54:21Speaker 4: On a rewind, back to the whole Kanye being crazy
- 54:24Speaker 4: and the CIA handler thing. I feel like four years ago,
- 54:27Speaker 4: I told you that story about when I met with
- 54:28Speaker 4: that CIA guy at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Do you
- 54:32Speaker 4: remember this?
- 54:32Speaker 2: No, tell me this story.
- 54:33Speaker 4: So now it's like seven years ago, maybe eight. So
- 54:38Speaker 4: I wanted to be in the CIA in Hollywood. And
- 54:40Speaker 4: I was working on this project with the Marine Corps
- 54:43Speaker 4: and where I was doing a documentary at Camp Pendleton
- 54:46Speaker 4: that I was funding, and I asked the colonel, I
- 54:47Speaker 4: was like, how do I get in the CIA? And
- 54:50Speaker 4: he's like, oh, let me make a call on somebody
- 54:53Speaker 4: I know you can go to lunch with. So I
- 54:55Speaker 4: go to lunch with this guy at the Beverly Hills
- 54:56Speaker 4: Hotel who says.
- 54:57Speaker 2: Do you actually want to be hired for the CIA?
- 55:00Speaker 4: I did.
- 55:01Speaker 2: Like a whole other career.
- 55:02Speaker 4: Yeah, I did.
- 55:03Speaker 2: Oh, really?
- 55:03Speaker 4: Interesting. This was before I got back in the game
- 55:05Speaker 4: on Juicy Scoop.
- 55:06Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
- 55:07Speaker 4: I thought fame was a wrap.
- 55:08Speaker 2: At one point, I remember my dad wanted to do
- 55:10Speaker 2: that early on in life. But there was one point
- 55:13Speaker 2: where they said you needed a law degree. I don't
- 55:14Speaker 2: know if that was FBI or CIA.
- 55:16Speaker 4: That's FBI.
- 55:17Speaker 2: But then they said, no, you don't anymore. But the
- 55:18Speaker 2: time that my dad was looking into it, it was
- 55:21Speaker 2: you needed a law degree. So I didn't go back
- 55:22Speaker 2: to the CIA.
- 55:23Speaker 4: So I go to the Polo Lounge and I'm quizzing
- 55:25Speaker 4: this guy who's in Hollywood that says he's like– It
- 55:29Speaker 4: doesn't say CIA, but he implies that this is a
- 55:32Speaker 4: thing where the CIA is in Hollywood. So the idea
- 55:36Speaker 4: that Corey Gamble is connected to this thing that I
- 55:39Speaker 4: was trying to get involved with, the weirdest part about
- 55:41Speaker 4: this story, I don't want to say three weeks later,
- 55:44Speaker 4: but a month later, maybe so soon, I am like
- 55:48Speaker 4: checking the news, whatever. And that guy I met with
- 55:51Speaker 4: choked to death in Gelson's on a piece of meat
- 55:55Speaker 4: or whatever. This is true.
- 55:58Speaker 2: Wait, he's walking through Gelson's head.
- 56:01Speaker 4: Supposedly, the story, he tries the meat and chokes to death.
- 56:07Speaker 4: The guy that I met with that was talking to
- 56:09Speaker 4: me about all this world, I was like, dang, maybe
- 56:12Speaker 4: they really didn't want me to know or whatever. That's
- 56:15Speaker 4: a real story. And then back to the weird things
- 56:17Speaker 4: that connect with all this to me. Because there's also
- 56:20Speaker 4: a TikTok conspiracy, allegedly, that Heidi's plastic surgeon, who I
- 56:24Speaker 4: never believed- Your wife. Yeah, drove off that cliff.
- 56:28Speaker 2: Yes.
- 56:28Speaker 4: But they proved later, because initially they said he was
- 56:31Speaker 4: texting and driving. It's like, I know Dr. Frank Ryan.
- 56:33Speaker 4: Guy was like- There's no way he's texting and driving.
- 56:35Speaker 4: He's not that type of person. His phone's probably in
- 56:38Speaker 4: a pouch, in a bag. If, you know, also this
- 56:41Speaker 4: was so long ago, nobody was texting. We'd be like five, five, five, seven,
- 56:44Speaker 4: you know, texting was so maybe texting it just, but
- 56:47Speaker 4: it wasn't like, so he supposedly drove off PCH into
- 56:51Speaker 4: the rocks and died. There is a TikTok conspiracy that
- 56:54Speaker 4: Diddy had him killed because, uh, supposedly, allegedly.
- 57:00Speaker 2: The woman who has received $ 30 million for being.
- 57:02Speaker 4: Abused by him. Dr. Frank Ryan put her implants in.
- 57:06Speaker 4: She comes out of surgery and Diddy says they don't
- 57:08Speaker 4: look good. Take them out. And Dr. Frank's like, I
- 57:10Speaker 4: have to wait six months. I can't like I'm not
- 57:13Speaker 4: doing that. And he forces Dr. Frank. And the medical
- 57:18Speaker 4: you've been under. And he forced her to do it.
- 57:20Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of the things she talked about
- 57:22Speaker 2: in her lawsuit was that how traumatic that was.
- 57:25Speaker 4: Oh, she says that happened.
- 57:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 57:27Speaker 4: Oh, so then it's not so crazy that the guy
- 57:30Speaker 4: who did that then gets murdered. Because that's why we
- 57:35Speaker 4: moved to Costa Rica, because we knew he got murdered.
- 57:38Speaker 4: And we didn't know if it was connected to something
- 57:39Speaker 4: with Heidi and I. We're like, we got to get
- 57:41Speaker 4: out of here.
- 57:41Speaker 2: How long did you live in Costa Rica?
- 57:43Speaker 4: Just until Four Seasons got too expensive. But for like
- 57:46Speaker 4: three months, you know. Right that week, the next day,
- 57:50Speaker 4: we were on the plane that day that he died.
- 57:52Speaker 4: Because we're like, whoa, they're killing Heidi's surgeon. Her lawyer
- 57:55Speaker 4: just supposedly got, he supposedly killed himself, RIP Peter Lopez.
- 57:59Speaker 4: But he definitely did not kill himself.
- 58:01Speaker 2: Wait, whose lawyer?
- 58:01Speaker 4: Our lawyer. Our lawyer. So in like one week, Heidi's
- 58:04Speaker 4: lawyer supposedly kills himself in the backyard. And then Heidi's
- 58:07Speaker 4: plastic surgeon goes off the road. We're like, we are
- 58:10Speaker 4: out of here. You know, we're not paranoid. This is
- 58:12Speaker 4: weird now at this point.
- 58:13Speaker 3: Wow.
- 58:14Speaker 2: Well, all I know is Corey's always been delightful to me.
- 58:19Speaker 4: I'll go to the floor with the Lakers with you.
- 58:21Speaker 2: I also think famous rich people become friends and you
- 58:25Speaker 2: have photos with people and you go on trips with
- 58:26Speaker 2: people and there's nothing awkward. That says anything, but all
- 58:31Speaker 2: these connections, being there when Kim Porter died, all that stuff,
- 58:35Speaker 2: being friends with him is why people are talking. Exactly.
- 58:38Speaker 2: Because P. Diddy has all these eyes on him and
- 58:41Speaker 2: looking at three of his homes being raided. That is
- 58:44Speaker 2: why people are talking about it.
- 58:46Speaker 4: I wonder, though, if he really had cameras in every
- 58:48Speaker 4: room like Epstein because.
- 58:50Speaker 2: Is that what they're saying? No.
- 58:52Speaker 4: You see that server photos from the raid?
- 58:54Speaker 5: No.
- 58:54Speaker 4: Oh, it was like a server.
- 58:56Speaker 2: Computer server thing?
- 58:57Speaker 4: Like for to do the cameras. Oh, it's like a
- 58:59Speaker 4: huge thing. So supposedly the whole house and that's these tapes.
- 59:03Speaker 4: It's not necessarily like from the freak off parties or
- 59:06Speaker 4: whatever they call it.
- 59:07Speaker 2: Right.
- 59:08Speaker 4: That's also the thing. Like it's a known. thing. Like
- 59:10Speaker 4: these clips, like a diddy party. There's no like, you
- 59:13Speaker 4: know what?
- 59:14Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 59:14Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 59:15Speaker 2: All the freak off parties of just basically orgies, guys, girls, both, whatever.
- 59:21Speaker 2: I want to watch it. I want to bring in
- 59:22Speaker 2: someone to do this. You need to do all these things.
- 59:25Speaker 4: I can imagine Kris Jenner is just at a freak
- 59:27Speaker 4: off party.
- 59:28Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 59:29Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying like that clip.
- 59:31Speaker 2: My personal opinion of it is she– anyone that's rich
- 59:35Speaker 2: and powerful and Hollywood connections, she is going to invite
- 59:40Speaker 2: them to dinner and have a drink and think they're lovely.
- 59:43Speaker 2: And in my opinion, at the age that she was–
- 59:47Speaker 2: she didn't become famous until she was 50. It's my
- 59:50Speaker 2: opinion that I don't think she was ever doing anything–
- 59:56Speaker 2: But does she want to be friends with famous, rich
- 59:58Speaker 2: people and act like they're our favorites and they're so
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: fun and they're so great?
- 1:00:04Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:00:04Speaker 4: So you're saying she was at a freak-off party as
- 1:00:06Speaker 4: a guest, just not a.
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: Just drinking her martini. Woo! I mean.
- 1:00:11Speaker 4: I'm not going upstairs.
- 1:00:14Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: No, I don't know. Very sad, you guys. Another TikToker,
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: beautiful girl, 29 years old, Eva Evans, who I followed
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: because she had these stunning blue eyes. I can't really
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: remember what material she did. I just remember she would
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: come in my feed and she would, you know, give
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: her opinions on things and talk about kind of a
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: variety of TikTok type of stuff. She has died. Died yesterday.
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: We found out yesterday. No announcement of what from.
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: I hate that.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: Well, they don't know.
- 1:00:47Speaker 3: Oh.
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: They're not revealing it. Okay. That's a deal.
- 1:00:51Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: The other girl, Kyle, who died last week.
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: Had cancer, right?
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: She had colon cancer, but they have still not said
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: if that's what she died from. Because, you know, some
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: people say you can die, whatever. But she was literally
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: doing a video the week before and looked good. So
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: it wasn't like she was in hospice or whatever. We
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: don't know if it was any kind of self-inflicted, if
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: it was maybe an accidental overdose. Nobody knows how she died.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: They have not announced it. And nobody knows how this
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: girl died.
- 1:01:21Speaker 4: Do we know where Corey was? Is he in any
- 1:01:25Speaker 4: photos popping up?
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: No. I don't really know where the girl lives.
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: I'm just throwing this out there, but all I ever
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: read about is fentanyl, lettuce with fentanyl, that they were
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: taking a bike in. That's what I'm saying.
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: It could have been.
- 1:01:38Speaker 4: They're not accidental. It's just that fentanyl.
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: It's a mistake. It's a cocktail mistake.
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: Yeah, you take a Xanax that's a fake Xanax with fentanyl.
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: Or it's not fentanyl, but you mix something. And you
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: don't wake up. And it wasn't your intention, but we
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: don't know. But it's very weird. So somehow I came
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: across this.
- 1:01:56Speaker 4: It is weird, though, that the owner just sold.
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: So the owner of the Abbey... He also owns the chapel.
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: It's right there on that corner, very close to now
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: the no longer pump. Sir is still there. Tom Tom's
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: and the Abbey. The Abbey is like the longest running
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: gay bar nightclub. They have dancing. They have outdoor. They
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: serve lunch, drinks, you know, dinner. And this has been
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: going on for like a few years of people talking
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: about how they felt like they were roofied at the
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: club and that it seems like it was coming from
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: bartenders there. Women. Women– but I also saw a guy
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: say that he thought it happened to him too. But
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: a lot of women– and so people are like, wait, what?
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: I thought this was a gay bar. But I think
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: that's why they're– if this is in fact true, why
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: that's the perfect plan if you're trying to kidnap and
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: sex traffic women because they go to the Abbey thinking,
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: I just want to dance and be with my gays
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: and have some fun and I want to be hit
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: on by guys and, you know– So I think that's
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: why their guard is down and why it has happened.
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: And so this pretty girl, what's her name? Bold Glamour
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: is her name. Oh, wait, this is Billie Lee. Is
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: this Billie Lee?
- 1:03:19Speaker 4: That's Billie Lee.
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: Oh, this is Billie Lee. She looks so pretty. She
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: is pretty.
- 1:03:23Speaker 4: I think it's a filter.
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: It might be a filter, but whatever.
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: It's working. It's working for her. No judgment, I'm just saying.
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: Billie Lee of Vanderpump Rules. She tells a story that
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: happened to her a few years ago. Other people are
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: saying things are happening. The place sold about a year
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: ago in which, you know, just all those kind of
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: things of someone being like, oh, we'll help you and
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: trying to get into an Uber after where someone are like,
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: this is your Uber. And then being like, wait, who
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: are you here to see? And they're like, the Uber
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: guy's like, just get in the car, just get in
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: the car. So I don't know, but it doesn't, it's
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: not great advertising for going out in West Hollywood because
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: I think that's what people think. I think they think
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: it's LGBTQIA. I'm a straight woman. I just want to
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: have some fun and some drinks. I just want to dance.
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: I actually, I'm not looking to mean anybody. And so
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: your guard is totally down and it's not necessarily, we
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: don't know if it's a reflection of, of the club
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: or if that's where they're going and you're not looking
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: and a normal patron is just dropping something in your
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: drink or whatever. The argument was or the theory is
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: that actually bartenders are getting a kickback to put the
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: stuff in, which is really bad if that's in fact true.
- 1:04:37Speaker 4: I know. That one gets hard. That's like– I understand
- 1:04:40Speaker 4: the criminal person doing it, but to be connected to
- 1:04:45Speaker 4: that kind of kickback, you risk it.
- 1:04:47Speaker 5: All a legend.
- 1:04:48Speaker 4: All a legend.
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: Not saying it's true at all. But I mean, this
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: is why this one girl was going like, do you
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: just want us never to go out as women? Can
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: we have one thing? We can't even go to a
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: gay bar with a bunch of gay guys and not
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: be possibly trafficked? I mean, horrible. But yeah. You know, again,
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: you've got to be really careful. When you're out, when
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: you're having your third or fourth drink, that's when your
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: guard is down. Or maybe you've been drinking all day.
- 1:05:14Speaker 4: And.
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: And, you know, you want those mixed drinks when you're
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: drinking all day, and those are the easiest ones to do.
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: Maybe you don't want a beer, but, like, at a
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: certain point, I guess you've got to say, give me
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: the beer and let me see you open it. I mean,
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: I guess that would be the only safe thing that
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: you could drink.
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: Who's doing that after three drinks?
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: Right, that's exactly it. But I'm saying that's probably the
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: only safe thing that you could do, right?
- 1:05:33Speaker 4: Here, I'm just trying to think my new, like, product
- 1:05:35Speaker 4: I need to invent is, like, a cover that goes
- 1:05:37Speaker 4: over your drink so when they, like, pour it in,
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: if there's, like, something in it, like, it changes.
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: I just feel like when it's that much, it's like,
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: why go out?
- 1:05:43Speaker 4: I'm just going to have a water bottle. Like out
- 1:05:46Speaker 4: of the plastic bottle.
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: Then just don't even go out. But even if you
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: got a Diet Coke, someone could put something in your
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: Diet Coke. So it's like it's just a matter of
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: going out in these places where your guard is down
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: because you are talking and you're being social, which is
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: the whole fun of going out to a bar. Otherwise,
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: just stay at your own house and drinking in your backyard.
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: Which is a lot of fun. I stand by that brand.
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: But then that you can't do alone either because you
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: might drown in your pool.
- 1:06:12Speaker 4: Well, that's if you're engaging in ketamine. I think that's right.
- 1:06:18Speaker 4: You drown just from drinking? I thought that was ketamine.
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: Well, and no, but anybody could drown. You're not supposed
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: to ever go swimming by yourself. Did you know that?
- 1:06:25Speaker 4: Period.
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: Yeah. Period. Whether you're sober or not. Yeah. And you
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: should always have like one other person, one other adult there.
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: Even if it's just you and your kid.
- 1:06:33Speaker 4: I'm realizing this is just the most helpful, juicy health.
- 1:06:40Speaker 5: There he is.
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: Are you watching The Valley?
- 1:06:42Speaker 4: Heidi is. So I'm always scrolling when she has the shows.
- 1:06:45Speaker 4: I'm a secondary viewer, but I'm so happy for this
- 1:06:48Speaker 4: whole cast, Alex Baskin and Bravo. But it's very sad
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: that Jax and Brittany, I saw this coming because he
- 1:06:56Speaker 4: came on our podcast and before, now I can, before
- 1:07:01Speaker 4: I would have been like airing Dirty Linger, but before
- 1:07:03Speaker 4: we started recording, he clearly was like going through it.
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: How long ago is this?
- 1:07:07Speaker 4: It was like a week before that. Premiere?
- 1:07:10Speaker 5: No.
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: Or the announcement?
- 1:07:11Speaker 4: It was like right when it started kind of coming.
- 1:07:14Speaker 4: It was so connected.
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: So like a couple months ago. Yeah. Okay.
- 1:07:17Speaker 4: It must have happened. And he was like, marriage is so,
- 1:07:20Speaker 4: he was like going off and Heidi and I were
- 1:07:22Speaker 4: looking at each other. He's like, you guys get it?
- 1:07:23Speaker 4: And we're like, what? And he's looking at me like,
- 1:07:26Speaker 4: you better not talk about me. Like this, you know,
- 1:07:29Speaker 4: so like intense.
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: Like he was raw.
- 1:07:32Speaker 4: He was coming off of something. Yeah, it was like
- 1:07:34Speaker 4: we were like a break, like it was over type energy.
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:07:37Speaker 4: Like, it was so hectic. I was like, man, that's,
- 1:07:39Speaker 4: I don't think this, like, my thought was this is
- 1:07:41Speaker 4: not going to last. And then it was, it didn't last.
- 1:07:43Speaker 4: But it is sad because I could tell he wanted
- 1:07:46Speaker 4: to make it work for the kid. That was the energy.
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: Yes, for Cruz, yeah.
- 1:07:49Speaker 4: But I don't think so. But I am so happy
- 1:07:51Speaker 4: he has his restaurant. And, you know, he's, you know,
- 1:07:54Speaker 4: a lot of people were coming for me in my
- 1:07:56Speaker 4: comment section and DMs about his work. At the end
- 1:07:59Speaker 4: of the day, he has been Jack since I first
- 1:08:01Speaker 4: started watching him.
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: He's so authentic.
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: That's why he's a great reality star.
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: And he's funny. And when he's dissing somebody and when
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: he's being a dick, it's him. It's just him.
- 1:08:11Speaker 4: People are nice to me, how they treat me. People
- 1:08:16Speaker 4: are like, oh, but his behavior on the show. It's like,
- 1:08:18Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:08:20Speaker 4: Last time I actually watched him on the show, he
- 1:08:21Speaker 4: had his shirt off in a parking lot. It was
- 1:08:23Speaker 4: like 20 years ago. So that's like the last episode
- 1:08:25Speaker 4: I saw.
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: I've had him on the show a bunch and he's always,
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: you know, been really great. And I'm happy that this
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: show came. The show is the surprise of reality TV
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: because all these people are so real. And I think
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: people went in thinking. This would be a boring show.
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: I don't want to see something about potty training and babies.
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: And it's not that at all. It's whether you're living
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: it yourself or you have friends that are new mommies
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: or like me, I'm past this stage. But it is
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: they have a girl that's suffering from postpartum that just
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: had twins and she's being honest about that. And she's
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: explaining it really well in a way that like, I
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: don't think I've never, I didn't have it. So thankfully so,
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: but I think she explains it really, really well. And
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: she's struggling with it. So we see her, we see
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: the struggle with them.
- 1:09:14Speaker 4: Let's hope she doesn't do horoscopes.
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: Why?
- 1:09:18Speaker 4: Did you not see that story?
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: What story?
- 1:09:22Speaker 4: With the horoscope influencer. Wait, tell that story. You didn't
- 1:09:28Speaker 4: see the horoscope influencer that stabbed her boyfriend and then
- 1:09:33Speaker 4: killed him?
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: Oh, in Woodland Hills.
- 1:09:34Speaker 4: And everyone in the comment section was saying, oh, it's postpartum.
- 1:09:37Speaker 4: I was like, whoa, that seems like.
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: Some voodoo type. Oh, yeah, that was a horrible thing.
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: A woman who had a boyfriend and an eight-year-old and
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: a small infant went crazy. Crazy. Completely crazy.
- 1:09:49Speaker 4: On the eclipse day.
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: On the eclipse day was like astronomer or what? Not astronomer, astrology.
- 1:09:54Speaker 4: Astrology.
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: Killed her boyfriend, got in a car, threw her two
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: kids out the window. And I want to say the
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: eight-year-old lived and maybe the baby didn't. And then she
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: crashed the car and died.
- 1:10:06Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: It's a way to bring it down. She's not like that.
- 1:10:11Speaker 4: She's not. She's not.
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: But she's being honest about her struggles and her husband's
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: being super supportive. So we get to see them. We
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: see another couple who's doing real estate together and they
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: are now separated and she was just on a date
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: with someone else.
- 1:10:26Speaker 4: It's a hard time to be in real estate.
- 1:10:27Speaker 2: It's hard to work with your spouse and hard to
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: do real estate. As a daughter of two that were
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: real estate couple, let me tell you, I used to
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: go to bed and be like, when will these two
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: have the sense to call a divorce attorney? But they
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: made it through and they died married. But I'm telling you,
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: it's not easy. So we get to see that. Then
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: with Jax and Brittany- You know, they're the OGs of
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: reality TV and they have a three-year-old and he's seeing
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: a speech therapist. So they're sharing that. And I'm sure
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: that adds to the struggle of a relationship if you're
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: worried that your son is not making milestones.
- 1:11:03Speaker 4: We experienced that. Gunnar did a speech. What people don't realize,
- 1:11:08Speaker 4: and we made the mistake, sometimes the tongue is too tight.
- 1:11:11Speaker 4: So you actually need a dentist. I don't know. I
- 1:11:14Speaker 4: may have DM Jacks. Like you could have a tongue tied.
- 1:11:17Speaker 4: It's not a speech delay. It's that the tongue is
- 1:11:19Speaker 4: too tight.
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: It's really, that's where the tongue-tied expression comes from? Interesting.
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: I was slow to speak.
- 1:11:25Speaker 4: So there's people that get that, and then they're totally fine.
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: I was slow to speak.
- 1:11:29Speaker 4: I don't know if you had a tongue-tied.
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: No, but really, I just remember, I went to speech therapy. Yeah, so,
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: but that's... And people will still say, Heather, you mispronounce words,
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: and you aren't great at speech. And I remember one
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: time a teacher saying, I have a phonics issue. So
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: I still had something, but I obviously have done okay
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: in life. But I was, for a couple of reasons.
- 1:11:48Speaker 4: One.
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: was I was young as a five, so I could
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: just point and all of the kids got me stuff.
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: But I remember not being able to say spooned. I
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: remember being young enough, like sitting in a high chair
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: and my mom was like, why can't you say spoon?
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: And I was like, boon, boon. And like, so- Maybe
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: it can be something, you know, and also my nephew
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: did speech therapy, too. And he's a sophomore in college
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: and obviously got some people are just and especially boys
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: are just a little bit slower. The other thing that
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: with Brandon, he was speaking, but it kind of like
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: capped out at a certain amount of words. And I
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: was like, shouldn't you have more words? And when I
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: looked into that, we had a Spanish speaking nanny. who
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: also spoke English, but I was like, ooh, speak Spanish
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: to him.
- 1:12:36Speaker 4: What happens when it's in Spanish?
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: Yeah, speak Spanish. No, but sometimes a kid will pick
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: up both languages, but sometimes it'll be too confusing for them,
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: and they'll actually– it'll hurt their ability to get more language.
- 1:12:50Speaker 4: Well, our 18-month-old actually has too many words. I'm like, oh,
- 1:12:54Speaker 4: you just stop talking. You're supposed to be a baby.
- 1:12:57Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:12:58Speaker 4: If I drop something, he's like, trash. I'm like, what
- 1:13:01Speaker 4: the– what are you working for your mom? What the
- 1:13:04Speaker 4: freak is going on around here?
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: Yeah. But it's hard when you're around a bunch of
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: other kids and you see that these little girls that
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: are Cruz's age maybe were speaking much more than– we
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: hope whatever they're doing, they're getting the help. But that
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: doesn't help the marriage. Now, the rumor, the latest rumor–
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: is that he, you know, is hanging out with this
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: publicist that they both shared. And, you know, people are
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: on these sites saying, I saw them being flirty. I
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: saw them go to the bathroom together, all this kind
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: of stuff. But these sites are all anonymous people saying it,
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: which could be anybody. It could be a producer from
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: the show. It could be an enemy. It could be
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: someone who just is like a weirdo and wants to
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: see what they can put out there. I don't know.
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: But in hearing that information, she has now stopped following
- 1:13:58Speaker 2: Jax and this publicist, Brittany.
- 1:14:01Speaker 4: Well, I was defending this when I saw that photo.
- 1:14:03Speaker 4: And Heidi was like, would you ever be in a
- 1:14:07Speaker 4: photo with a woman like that?
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: Like too chummy in the photo?
- 1:14:11Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:14:12Speaker 4: I don't know if it's our post. She's looking at
- 1:14:14Speaker 4: me like a laser beams through my eyes. I was
- 1:14:17Speaker 4: trying to defend, but I agree. I, you know, I
- 1:14:19Speaker 4: don't think I would ever, especially with everything that's going on.
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: But there were also photos in the past where all
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: three of them and ones with just she and the publicist,
- 1:14:28Speaker 2: like all three of them were like laughing and putting
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: cake in each other's mouth. Not like a, it didn't
- 1:14:33Speaker 2: look like a threesome, but it looked like they were
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: really fun. But also I'm like, why is the publicist
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: in photos at all? If you're the publicist, you should
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: be there taking them.
- 1:14:42Speaker 4: Ask Larsa Pippen about that one.
- 1:14:45Speaker 5: Why?
- 1:14:46Speaker 2: What did Larsa Pippen say?
- 1:14:47Speaker 4: Remember, that's the drama with Jordan. What's his name? Michael
- 1:14:52Speaker 4: Jordan's son. Oh, yeah.
- 1:14:53Speaker 2: Marcus Jordan.
- 1:14:54Speaker 4: Marcus at the BravoCon. There was a big drama. Oh, really?
- 1:14:57Speaker 4: What's the story? Because one of the Miami housewives was
- 1:15:00Speaker 4: asking him to take photos of her, not of Larsa,
- 1:15:04Speaker 4: but of this other cast member.
- 1:15:05Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:15:06Speaker 4: And then Larsa had a thing about this. Like, why
- 1:15:09Speaker 4: are you asking my man to take photos of you?
- 1:15:12Speaker 2: Well, sometimes you're just, sometimes in those situations, people are
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: coming up.
- 1:15:16Speaker 4: On his phone.
- 1:15:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a lot because sometimes I've been
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: at parties or whatever and someone's like, can we get
- 1:15:23Speaker 2: a photo or I need a photo? And I'm literally
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: someone walking by and I'm like, can you just take
- 1:15:26Speaker 2: a photo for us? Is that that rude to do?
- 1:15:29Speaker 4: I think maybe there was more that like, what if
- 1:15:31Speaker 4: it was like a little shoot, you know? I don't know.
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: I saw that they're back together now.
- 1:15:35Speaker 4: I saw that Miami Beach.
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: It's exhausting, but it's okay. Good for them.
- 1:15:39Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:15:40Speaker 4: Does that publicist have a podcast coming out soon?
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: She probably has one too. I was a publicist. No,
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: but I mean, it does seem a little chummy. It
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: does seem like, why are you in the photos? But
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: I don't care how many people pretend that they want
- 1:15:52Speaker 2: to be just behind the scenes. Probably 99% of everybody
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: would like to be famous and And get a taste
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: of it until they don't. I mean, a lot of publicists.
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: That girl from Summer House was a publicist. Lindsay, her
- 1:16:04Speaker 2: job was being a publicist. And then she was on
- 1:16:05Speaker 2: Summer House. Do you imagine hiring her to do like
- 1:16:09Speaker 2: your event when she is her own publicist? famous reality star.
- 1:16:13Speaker 2: Do you ever watch Summer House? Lindsay and Carl, they
- 1:16:16Speaker 2: had a broken engagement. Now they're getting married. But her
- 1:16:19Speaker 2: whole thing was a publicist. And for years, they'd still say, Lindsay, publicist.
- 1:16:22Speaker 2: I'm like, she's not a publicist.
- 1:16:24Speaker 4: She's a cast member.
- 1:16:25Speaker 2: She's not a publicist anymore.
- 1:16:26Speaker 4: She's a cast member.
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: What do you think she's putting together? Like that's who
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: you're going to hire.
- 1:16:30Speaker 4: Out of all the publicists? She put together a chiropractor.
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: If you're going to hire someone for $ 10, 000 to do
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: a publicity event for you or whatever to be your
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: publicist on staff, I think someone who's currently on a
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: reality show would be the last person I would hire
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: to do my publicity.
- 1:16:43Speaker 4: Unless she brought the show to the event.
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: Right. I guess that would be the only hook.
- 1:16:48Speaker 4: Maybe that's why. I'll have her come to Pratt & Addy.
- 1:16:50Speaker 4: I'll book her right now if she brings Summer House
- 1:16:52Speaker 4: to my crystal shop.
- 1:16:54Speaker 2: Okay. So, Spencer, tell everybody. Where they can get more.
- 1:16:57Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
- 1:16:57Speaker 3: It's over?
- 1:16:58Speaker 4: Why are these podcasts getting so short? Can't we do
- 1:17:00Speaker 4: a bonus hour for Patreon or something?
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: Do you want to? A little more time?
- 1:17:04Speaker 4: I am not in a hurry, but I was kind
- 1:17:06Speaker 4: of kidding. Okay.
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: Well, then wait. Let's end it. And then let me
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: use some of this for Thursday. Can I do that? Yeah,
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: of course.
- 1:17:12Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:17:13Speaker 2: But first, so in case people don't come back to Thursday,
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: tell everybody where they can find you and Heidi's music
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: and everything you guys are doing.
- 1:17:19Speaker 4: Please go to Spotify if you have Spotify and follow Heidi.
- 1:17:24Speaker 4: Not just stream, the follows count because then it puts
- 1:17:26Speaker 4: you in the algorithm. We've got to build those up.
- 1:17:28Speaker 4: If you're an Apple Music person, play it on Apple Music.
- 1:17:31Speaker 4: It's called Superficial. And then Spidey's 16th Minute on all
- 1:17:37Speaker 4: platforms for our podcast.
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: I love it.
- 1:17:39Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:17:40Speaker 2: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: for it? This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: It's Dune ADL.
- 1:17:53Speaker 3: Where?
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: Dunediel? There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
- 1:18:00Speaker 2: I got it on Dundiel Cars.
- 1:18:01Speaker 6: Lift?
- 1:18:02Speaker 2: Please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage!
- 1:18:05Speaker 5: No.
- 1:18:06Speaker 2: Dundiel Cars.
- 1:18:07Speaker 6: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.