Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / Truman and Nelle - TPR's In Focus - July 29, 2026
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- 0:00Support comes from the Rosa Parks Museum on Troy University's
- 0:04Montgomery campus, located on the spot of Mrs.
- 0:07Parks' historic 1955 arrest and featuring exhibits
- 0:12that chronicle the history of the Montgomery Bus Boycott.
- 0:15More information at troy.edu/rosaparks.
- 0:21From Troy Public Radio,
- 0:25this is In Focus, and I'm Carolyn Hutcheson.
- 0:29Author Marianne Weber knew Truman Capote and
- 0:32Nell Harper Lee when she lived in Monroeville,
- 0:36Alabama. Capote became famous for his book In Cold
- 0:40Blood, and Mary Ann wrote a play about his trip with
- 0:44Harper Lee to Kansas to interview the murderers who
- 0:49were subjects of the book. She joins us today as the Wetumpka
- 0:53Depot Players prepare to bring her story, Traveling with
- 0:57Truman and Nell, to the stage.
- 1:04Mary Ann Weber, welcome to Troy Public Radio.
- 1:08You're so kind, Carolyn. I'm delighted you want to know more
- 1:11about my play, Traveling with Truman and Nell.
- 1:15Mary Ann, you're a well-known Alabama playwright and
- 1:19author, and we recently talked with Tom
- 1:23Salter, the director of your current play about
- 1:27Truman Capote and Nell Harper Lee. How did you get interested
- 1:32in their story? Well, I lived in Monroeville about
- 1:36the time Nell Harper Lee's book was being published.
- 1:40She was not well known at that time,
- 1:44and Capote had several novels out. They were
- 1:48waiting on the release of Breakfast at Tiffany's in a film,
- 1:52and the two of them— I sort of started following
- 1:56their careers vicariously.
- 1:59And when I found that Truman Capote was going to
- 2:03Holcomb, Kansas to interview some murderers
- 2:07of a slain family out there, he asked
- 2:11Nell if she would drive along with him and take notes. I guess he
- 2:15figured that if you know anything about Truman, he was not going to get anywhere
- 2:20with some of the people that were a lot more conservative and not
- 2:23used to looking at somebody that looked and sounded like him.
- 2:27So the two went along and spent several weeks out there
- 2:30and got all the information they needed to
- 2:34at least start on the book of In Cold Blood.
- 2:38Of course, I had followed that through the years, and just
- 2:42in thinking about what in the world did Truman and Nell
- 2:46talk about after they got through with this experience
- 2:49of interviewing these murderers, interviewing people in town,
- 2:54the whole atmosphere there in this small
- 2:57town where evil had not reared its head very
- 3:01high in the past. Then I thought, well, I'm a writer.
- 3:05I ride along with other writers. What do we talk about?
- 3:08Everything you can think of. Our failures, our successes,
- 3:12our worries. Will we get paid? Does it matter if we get
- 3:16paid? How much we're going to get paid? Will something get published?
- 3:20Just so many things, and then personal things too.
- 3:24We talk about our families, we talk about religion, we might
- 3:27talk about politics, we might talk about a current event going
- 3:31on. So I tried to put these 2 authors at
- 3:36that time period in 1960 when they were traveling
- 3:40after their interviews in Holcomb. They're together
- 3:44in a car and it's night, And they're talking,
- 3:48and I'm hoping the audience will enjoy being just an
- 3:52ear into that conversation. Of course, we don't know every
- 3:55word they said, but I could sort of imagine what
- 3:59they said, and I've come up with this play, Traveling with
- 4:03Truman and Nell. And of course, it is presented
- 4:07initially on July 31st at the Wetumpka Depot Players Theater
- 4:11and is followed August 2nd, 4th, and 13th
- 4:15through 15th. How well did you know
- 4:18these 2 icons? Well, I met both of
- 4:22them when Nell Lee's book first came out.
- 4:26People in Monroeville had coffees for her,
- 4:29and Monroeville is such a small community. I was usually
- 4:32invited just as a newcomer in town to come and sit,
- 4:37and she'd sit and smoke her cigarette, drink coffee, and sign books
- 4:41for people. And I mean, she was just Nell. She'd never been anything
- 4:45else but just their friend. Having grown up there.
- 4:49Then Capote, as it turned out, was the first cousin
- 4:53of some of our very dear friends in Monroeville,
- 4:57the Jennings Carter family.
- 5:00He, through the years, would entertain our family
- 5:04with tales of what he and Truman did as children,
- 5:08and then, like I had said previously, I was
- 5:12enjoying following their careers vicariously.
- 5:15I could do that with Capote, couldn't do anything with Miss Lee
- 5:19because she was just such a quiet, reserved person,
- 5:23and we know very little about her from the time she was
- 5:27about 35 until, uh, right before she died in
- 5:31Monroeville. Mary Ann, how much research did you
- 5:35have to do to flesh out this story? Quite a bit,
- 5:39because I wanted to bring as much fact as
- 5:42I could into it. Of course, there's plenty of material
- 5:46on Capote. I could use biographies on him,
- 5:50use his writings. And with Miss Lee, there was a
- 5:54lot of critique about her work, and I drew from
- 5:58the material that Jennings Carter gave me for my book,
- 6:02Truman Capote's Southern Years. So it was several
- 6:05years of research, and I had such
- 6:09a good connection with different friends who would
- 6:13read parts of it and tell us the truth where we need
- 6:18to dig deeper, and it always makes a better product when
- 6:22we do that. So I'm just so grateful to the Wetumpka Depot
- 6:25Theater for giving me this opportunity as a
- 6:29fairly new playwright to present this on their stage
- 6:33and to be so open and helpful to me. Have you been watching
- 6:38rehearsals? Oh, yes. I've tried not to miss a minute.
- 6:42I have loved watching Tom Salter, the director,
- 6:46work with our 2 actors, David Shelton and Cammie
- 6:50Phillips, coach them and help them know where to stand,
- 6:53how to say, how to turn. So that's been an education in itself.
- 6:58You had another play that was a hit in
- 7:02your native Andalusia, Alabama. Ladies of
- 7:06the Jury, and this goes back to a point in history.
- 7:11Can you give us sort of a synopsis? This was in 1955.
- 7:16There was a judge who had a custody case before him.
- 7:20You know, women couldn't sit on a jury back then. We hadn't passed all
- 7:24the rights to give us entree into that. So I think
- 7:29he probably was worried about if he had to take this little
- 7:32boy away from his mother, and 12 men were going to come in and
- 7:36do that. I don't know if he was thinking about his next election or
- 7:40whether his wife was going to half kill him when he got home,
- 7:43but wisely he went out and he knew the
- 7:47ladies in town, and he brought 6 of them in,
- 7:51and he brought 6 ministers in and impaneled a jury.
- 7:55And he said, now I don't have to abide by your decision,
- 8:00but I treasure your participation on this.
- 8:04So the case was presented, and the ladies of the jury deliberated
- 8:09with the ministers, and they produced their verdict.
- 8:13And I loved this story because this was
- 8:16hidden in a news article in the Andalusia Star
- 8:19News for years. Nobody paid any attention
- 8:23to it. Those women, they were my mother's contemporaries.
- 8:27It just led to my cousin and I spent hours
- 8:30down in the basement of the courthouse going through old papers and
- 8:35of course talked with people that had relatives that maybe had been
- 8:39involved with it. Such an unusual but fun thing because
- 8:44I thought, this is Andalusia, this is my hometown,
- 8:47and this is a first— first ladies of the jury.
- 8:50Well, in 1953, Alabama ratified the
- 8:5419th Amendment to the Constitution and voter rolls were
- 8:59gradually adding women. So I hope
- 9:03you'll bring that play to other audiences.
- 9:06Meanwhile, I want to thank you for your visit today, Mary Ann. Oh,
- 9:10you're welcome, and thank you for this opportunity as well.
- 9:14That was playwright Mary Ann Weber, and her play Traveling
- 9:18with Truman and Nell will be brought to the stage by the Wetumpka
- 9:23Depot Players starting July 31st and continuing
- 9:27in August. More information can be found at the watumpkadepot.com
- 9:31website. Thanks for joining us for In
- 9:35Focus, which is a podcast wherever you get your podcasts,
- 9:39and feel free to get in touch at infocus@troy.edu.
- 9:44I'm Carolyn Hutcheson, and this is listener-supported
- 9:47Troy Public Radio.