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The Next Round: SEC Rankings Debate, Auburn’s Bowl Trouble & MLB Playoff Drama | Hour 1 · The Next Round

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Speaker 1: Man, it's that time of year where we've got playoff baseball.
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Speaker 1: I'm about to tell you a stat right here. Starting
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Speaker 1: October 1st. When is October 1st? Do I need research
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Speaker 1: on that, Brooks? October 1st.
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Speaker 2: Is that tomorrow? Tomorrow? Locktober. Tomorrow starts not only Locktober
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Speaker 2: with LanceIsLock.com. 15 hours out. It starts 61 consecutive days
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Speaker 2: of football. 61 consecutive days of football starts tomorrow. What
0:28
Speaker 2: do we get midweek, Mac? Mac, Sunbelt, Funbelt. All the
0:34
Speaker 2: Monday night, Thursday night NFL. So tomorrow starts 61 straight
0:39
Speaker 2: days of football every day. And we've got this overlap
0:43
Speaker 2: of baseball, which is fun. There used to be an
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Speaker 2: old TV show called Match Game, where I will say
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Speaker 2: something and try to get somebody to match the word
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Speaker 2: exactly that I have written down right here. But you
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Speaker 2: can't use that word. No, I can't use this word.
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Speaker 2: So you've got it written down? But if I said
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Speaker 2: the word Odell Beckham best landing spot, where would you
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Speaker 2: say Odell Beckham's best landing spot is? Probably Baltimore.
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Speaker 3: Baltimore.
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Speaker 2: You should say Rams. You don't want Odell Beckham?
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Speaker 1: You know, I will tell you, when he came in
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Speaker 1: as a hired gun in 2021, he was really good
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Speaker 1: down the stretch. And you guys will remember he scored
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Speaker 1: a first-half touchdown in Super Bowl 56.
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Speaker 2: I do remember that. Right, right, right.
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Speaker 1: Then he tears his ACL in the second quarter. If
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Speaker 1: he doesn't tear his ACL, the Rams win that game
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Speaker 1: going away. And it ended up being a great Super Bowl,
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Speaker 1: and the Rams ended up winning on a final drive.
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Speaker 1: But Odell was really, really good then. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what Odell still got in the tank.
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Speaker 2: Well, the Giants– Don't want him, so he's out there. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: he doesn't have enough in the tank for the Giants. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: they want J.J. McCarthy. That's right. We will do our
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Speaker 2: NFL power rankings coming up after we talk to Brandon Marcello,
1:54
Speaker 2: who will join us with the college football news. Hour
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Speaker 2: two of the show to start at 11 Eastern, 10 Central.
2:01
Speaker 2: But let's start off with that. It's a special time
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Speaker 2: of year. I see people complaining, what's Major League Baseball doing?
2:08
Speaker 2: These day baseball games, it's unfair. Nobody can watch them.
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Speaker 2: Nobody can go to them, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Speaker 2: They've been doing this my entire life, and I've lived
2:18
Speaker 2: a long life. Day baseball used to be fun when
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Speaker 2: we were in school. Elementary kids used to convince their
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Speaker 2: parents to to check them out of school to watch
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Speaker 2: day baseball playoffs back in the day. It was awesome.
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Speaker 1: Now, the problem is, can the parent convince the boss
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Speaker 1: to let them off of work to watch day baseball?
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Speaker 2: No, that's harder. Yeah, and that's where you get the complication.
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Speaker 1: I was at a sports bar watching some of the
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Speaker 1: day baseball yesterday, and I was talking to a big
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Speaker 1: Braves fan, and he said, you know, I just kind
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Speaker 1: of forget sometimes because there's so many games now in
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Speaker 1: the postseason. I mean, when you've got quadruple headers in
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Speaker 1: maybe three consecutive days, if these things go best of three,
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Speaker 1: if they're not up today, it is a lot. I
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Speaker 1: did enjoy it back as a kid. I still enjoy
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Speaker 1: it now, but it's just difficult. I mean, if you're
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Speaker 1: a Braves fan, you understand why the Yankees and the
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Speaker 1: Red Sox are primetime because of the numbers and those brands.
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Speaker 1: But it's like, flip this thing around a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Give us a favor. Put the Cubs and the Padres
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Speaker 1: at 3 o'clock. Find a way to get the Braves
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Speaker 1: and the Phillies a little later than back-to-back 1 o'clock.
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Speaker 2: I can remember this vividly because growing up in Anniston, Alabama,
3:35
Speaker 2: for those that aren't familiar with the geography here, Anniston
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Speaker 2: is between Birmingham and Atlanta. So we've got some Birmingham
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Speaker 2: TV stations. some Atlanta TV stations occasionally, but in the South,
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Speaker 2: and I guess it's true anywhere, a lot of people
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Speaker 2: got WGN, right, the Cubs? That's right, yeah. We got
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Speaker 2: WOR out of Secaucus, New Jersey, so we got the Mets.
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Speaker 2: I got all three. I got TBS, WOR, WGN. So
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Speaker 2: we did not get WGN in Anniston, Alabama growing up.
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Speaker 2: That's why I was not exposed to Harry Carey and
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Speaker 2: the Cubs. That was kind of foreign to me, right?
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Speaker 2: But those 86 Mets were so good, I'd watch a
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Speaker 2: little bit of that with Gary Carter and Keith Hernandez
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Speaker 2: and all those guys. And I vividly remember the NLCS
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Speaker 2: had multiple afternoon games. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Multiple.
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Speaker 2: Like, I mean, that's the NLCS where now that's prime
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Speaker 2: time or nothing. I mean, they had a lot of
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Speaker 2: afternoon games. No, they'll rotate even the NLCS. They'll try
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Speaker 2: not to play them back to back. So they'll have NLCS, ALCS, and.
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Speaker 2: There'll be some day baseballs as you go through until
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Speaker 2: you get to the World Series. That's just what you
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Speaker 2: have to do to.
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Speaker 1: Get the games in. You don't want to overlap them.
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Speaker 1: But if you love baseball, these next three days, I mean,
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Speaker 1: you've got it every minute of every hour.
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Speaker 2: Now, people were killing the Braves attendance yesterday. I don't
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Speaker 2: know if this is why you brought it up. Well,
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Speaker 2: I brought it up because I saw a lot of
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Speaker 2: Braves fans saying– Rob Manfred doesn't understand. You're screwing the
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Speaker 2: Braves fans. There shouldn't be. All these games should not be.
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Speaker 2: You shouldn't have games in the day. All the games
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Speaker 2: should be at night. And they want to overlap because
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Speaker 2: you only care about the Braves. Well, Major League Baseball
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Speaker 2: wants everybody to watch all of them. Right. And you
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Speaker 2: knew Red Sox Yankees was going to be the primetime game.
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Speaker 2: I mean, let's be real about this.
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Speaker 5: Hey, by the way, the Astros players are killing the
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Speaker 5: attendance by Astros fans, too.
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Speaker 2: Oh, so the players are on it.
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Speaker 5: One of the pitchers last night was criticizing, hey, if
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Speaker 5: this was in Chicago, this place would be, you know,
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Speaker 5: loud as hell.
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Speaker 1: Well, if I'm a fan, I'm like, you guys have
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Speaker 1: lost eight straight postseason games at home, so why.
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Speaker 2: Don't you give me a little better product?
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Speaker 1: And by the way, baseball gods, the karma, paying them
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Speaker 1: back for 2017.
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Speaker 2: Astros are an 81-and-81 regular season team. You guys be better.
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Speaker 2: We'll get excited about coming out. You guys are one
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Speaker 2: of the worst Astro teams in my lifetime is what
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Speaker 2: they're saying.
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Speaker 1: The best game by far was Braves-Phillies. I mean, Austin Riley,
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Speaker 1: a three-run shot in the eighth.
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Speaker 2: I thought they were dead in the water. That's what
5:48
Speaker 2: we're getting to, the actual games on the fields. But
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Speaker 2: the Braves fans were upset about all these day games.
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Speaker 2: But yesterday, it was one of the clutch hits. Austin's
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Speaker 2: season has sucked. It's been his worst hitting season of
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Speaker 2: his career. Didn't he hit 217? To the point they—
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Speaker 2: Not hitting his weight. To the point, yes, exactly right.
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Speaker 2: To the point they've wondered about Austin Riley's future. Well,
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Speaker 2: here you are.
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Speaker 1: You're down with two outs. You're down three runs in
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Speaker 1: the bottom of the eighth. You're down to four outs.
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Speaker 1: And it looked like the Phillies may have a path
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Speaker 1: to victory. And then he jacks one into the seats.
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Speaker 1: And they win the game. And now, Braves fans, as.
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Speaker 2: You get ready for game two today, the winner of the–
6:31
Speaker 2: since we started these little mini division series best of
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Speaker 2: three back in 2022, the winners of game one are
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Speaker 2: 15-1 to win the series. Yeah. I mean, that was
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Speaker 2: the Phillies' chance. They really needed to grab that. They
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Speaker 2: had it in their hand. Good for you.
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Speaker 1: I don't look at the chat, but I'm sure the
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Speaker 1: chat would have blown.
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Speaker 2: Your ass up today. I would have started quick. We'll
6:51
Speaker 2: save it for the start of the next round, part two,
6:55
Speaker 2: hour number three today. But I'll ask the question of
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Speaker 2: Braves fans. What do you want me to do today?
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Speaker 2: You make my play for me. Do you want me
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Speaker 2: to double down on my Braves? You were 2-0 yesterday, right?
7:06
Speaker 2: I was 2-0 with my Braves fans yesterday. Or do
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Speaker 2: you want me to go Phillies so you can think
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Speaker 2: the landmines on the Phillies? I'll ask that question coming.
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Speaker 6: Up later on.
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Speaker 2: Braves fans listening out, think your way through it. Think
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Speaker 2: your way through this. You've got until 11 o'clock Central
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Speaker 2: to answer this question. I just get a read that
7:20
Speaker 2: you like the Braves again today. Just think through it,
7:23
Speaker 2: Braves fans. Don't tip your hand, Jim. I don't have
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Speaker 2: a feel on that game. Jim's calling the game. I
7:29
Speaker 2: don't have that feel today. I may do no baseball today.
7:31
Speaker 2: I tripled up on the Yankees and Red Sox.
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Speaker 1: I should have been 3-1. We were 2-2 yesterday because
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Speaker 1: we had that under. I was telling you it was
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Speaker 1: going to be a great pitcher's duel. which it started
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Speaker 1: out a great pitcher's.
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Speaker 2: Rule, and then Austin Riley ruined the whole thing. Yeah,
7:45
Speaker 2: ruined the whole thing. Forrester's White Sox, he had to
7:49
Speaker 2: buy a subscription. I mean, people complain about Dave Baseball.
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Speaker 2: Imagine being a White Sox fan, and you had to
7:57
Speaker 2: do what yesterday, Forrester?
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Speaker 5: I had to pay $ 13 to get Peacock for a month.
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Speaker 2: But I told Scott. Wait, what happened? I thought you
8:04
Speaker 2: were going to give me your sign-in. It turns out
8:07
Speaker 2: in a financial move, we canceled Peacock. And when I
8:13
Speaker 2: finally got a hold of Maggie, I was like, hey,
8:14
Speaker 2: don't worry now. You know, Forrester's on life support. I
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Speaker 2: was going to give it to you when I got home.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, it's a day baseball game. And
8:21
Speaker 2: they play playoffs in the day.
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Speaker 7: Wow.
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Speaker 2: They do indeed. They do indeed. I told Forrester, I
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Speaker 2: think $ 13 is well, well worth it to see your
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Speaker 2: team advance to the postseason, assuming the White Sox do that.
8:34
Speaker 2: I'd pay $ 13.
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Speaker 3: Scott.
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Speaker 2: I'd pay $ 13 to watch the Dolphins win a regular
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Speaker 2: season game right now.
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Speaker 1: Not shade, but fact. I mean, your first postseason win
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Speaker 1: in five years.
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't pay $ 0. 13 to watch the Falcons right now.
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Speaker 2: You shouldn't. I don't know, man. Now they got an
8:51
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, the Sox you had got on your side, Pope Leo,
8:56
Speaker 1: send a letter of encouragement.
8:59
Speaker 2: Destiny. He blessed your team. White Sox win, Padres blow
9:03
Speaker 2: out the Cubs. A little surprising on that one last night.
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Speaker 2: But the Yankees win as well. I've watched so much
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Speaker 2: baseball during the regular season. I told Brown before, I
9:12
Speaker 2: didn't even know who Cam Schlittler is, and he went
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Speaker 2: out there and he's their ace. He's your Cy Young
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Speaker 2: this year. He could be MVP. They were chanting MVP.
9:22
Speaker 1: He has a 97% chance to win the Cy Young.
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Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah. Who's got that other 3%? Dylan Cease. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I think this thing is over. I think that was
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Speaker 1: an exclamation last night. I just get worn out with it.
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Speaker 1: And I know we don't see it 18 times or
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Speaker 1: 19 times now. It's dialed back a little bit with
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Speaker 1: more early.
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Speaker 2: It feels like we still do, though.
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Speaker 1: I think we see it 14 times in the regular season.
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Speaker 2: I think that's right. Yeah, every one of them is,
9:48
Speaker 2: you know, whatever network is doing a game, the Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
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Speaker 2: they're all going to do that Yankees-Red Sox.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we've got to see videos and social
9:55
Speaker 1: media of all their fans bitching and complaining.
9:57
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10:02
Speaker 2: Give me Brooks' microphone. He sent us something yesterday, but
10:05
Speaker 2: it was after our two hours here on Sporting State.
10:08
Speaker 2: The reason I started with Braves today is this little
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Speaker 2: fact right here. Brooks, somebody's got something special going on
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so a Florida customer put down $ 1 on a
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Speaker 6: 20-leg parlay. $ 1?! Correct.
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Speaker 2: What will this pay? This is so done away right here.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. 20 legs.
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Speaker 6: He is currently 19 for 19 on the first 19
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Speaker 6: of the 20 legs.
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Speaker 2: Let's go. 19 of 19. What's this payout, Brooks? Do
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Speaker 2: you know?
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Speaker 7: It pays out $ 82, 590.
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Speaker 8: 70.
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Speaker 6: This is where he's saying, how did I not go $ 10?
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Speaker 6: $ 1 and it pays out what?
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Speaker 5: $ 82, 590. 70.
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Speaker 2: Okay. I want to look at the heavy lifting this
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Speaker 2: guy has done. He started week zero.
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Speaker 1: And he has got about every sport you can imagine
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Speaker 1: grouped in on this thing.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, lots of NASCAR. Yeah, I mean, four NASCARs
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Speaker 2: in there. So he rolled... I mean, just random NASCARs.
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Speaker 2: As I look at this, he is working his ass off. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: South Carolina State over Florida A & M.
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Speaker 1: Washington, Washington State, which was scary for a while, if
11:13
Speaker 1: I remember.
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Speaker 6: Do you think the Florida A & M, he's a
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Speaker 2: I wonder if that book is the only one that
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Speaker 2: offered that. It's just random.
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Speaker 1: He bought Washington down. Washington went off as a 19-point favorite.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Interesting.
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Speaker 4: Uab to beat louisiana monroe yeah love more but that's
11:32
Speaker 4: a scary pick that is.
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Speaker 2: Random way to way to jump in there uh let's
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Speaker 2: see the nascar.
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Speaker 7: Tyler clearly hasn't seen the warhawks play football.
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Speaker 4: This year no but i saw uab last year and
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Speaker 4: i no matter how much the improvement if this wasn't
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Speaker 4: this a little bit but i know the hard rock
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Speaker 1: But to your point, the hard part here is Christopher Bell,
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Speaker 1: group B winner at the Southern 500.
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Speaker 2: The whole NASCAR race. He predicted all four groups correctly.
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Speaker 2: All four group stage winners. He Rubik's cubed that thing.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how hard is that to do? That's the
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Speaker 2: most impressive part of this. Yeah. And then Louisville over
12:09
Speaker 2: Ole Miss.
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Speaker 1: The point-wise, Ole Miss to win the game straight out, though,
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Speaker 1: so he's threading needles.
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame, Florida State to cover against SMU. All the
12:18
Speaker 2: way down through there, as Tyler mentioned, UAB beating La Moreau.
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Speaker 2: which isn't the wildest thing on here. Ball State to
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Speaker 2: beat Stony Brook. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Like his ass has got to dig to find out
12:28
Speaker 1: the final scores.
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Speaker 7: I didn't know that Stony Brook had football.
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Speaker 2: App State plus the points versus East Carolina.
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Speaker 1: What streaming service do you have to get to find
12:37
Speaker 1: some of these guys? I don't know, but hey, he
12:39
Speaker 1: knew that Alex Mortensen had something special brewing here in Birmingham.
12:42
Speaker 2: But there's one left, and that's the Atlanta Braves to
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Speaker 2: win the World Series. I ain't going to wipe his
12:48
Speaker 2: ass with this thing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I was telling Brooks yesterday... This guy might find you, Jim.
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Speaker 1: When he showed it to me, you know, he could
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Speaker 1: sell this ticket pretty easily. I was going to ask
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Speaker 1: you that. Will Hard Rock Bet buy it back from him?
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Speaker 1: I don't know if Hard Rock Bet would. There are
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Speaker 1: other people out there. There was a website where you
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Speaker 1: could actually sell some of your tickets, depending on... I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's a probability formula out there. I would think paying
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Speaker 1: $ 82, 000 for a dollar, I bet somebody would give him
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Speaker 1: a couple of thousand bucks for it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, but Hard Rock... Just on the chance of
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Speaker 2: the Braves. Because, you know, if the Dodgers are going
13:18
Speaker 2: to lose... Who's going to beat them? It could be
13:21
Speaker 2: the Braves. Yeah. I personally believe the Braves are the
13:24
Speaker 2: only team that can beat them. I'll tell you, I'm
13:27
Speaker 2: with Barry. This might be proof of time travel. Like,
13:29
Speaker 2: if the Braves win this World Series, this guy cashes
13:31
Speaker 2: this thing. He had the almanac? He had the almanac.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's biffing Back to the Future 2. I
13:38
Speaker 2: just can't believe I don't watch the Southern 500. Is
13:41
Speaker 2: that Darlington, Jim? That is Darlington. That would seem impossible, though,
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Speaker 2: to pick. It does. By groups, that's not stages, right? No,
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Speaker 2: that's stage winners. I don't think so. I don't think so. Oh, no, no, no. Okay,
13:53
Speaker 2: so wait a minute. They group drivers together, and you
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Speaker 2: pick of the group of drivers. So Tyler Reddick was
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Speaker 2: probably with two or three other drivers, and he beat them.
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Speaker 1: I've never heard of Christopher Belknap, and that means anything.
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Speaker 1: I don't think Bubba Wallace has ever won a race,
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Speaker 1: has he?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's won like three or four. But he could
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Speaker 2: have been going against two or three stiffs. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's basically... Gotcha. Okay, that makes more sense. It's like
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Speaker 2: in golf, it'd be like Scotty Scheffler to beat... Colin
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Speaker 2: Morikawa and Justin Rose.
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Speaker 1: Still seems very, very difficult to go four and four.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I would agree. Four and O is a
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Speaker 2: pretty good day. And if there's four tires, one of
14:24
Speaker 2: them could go flat. At any moment. And then you lose.
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Speaker 2: If this is a time traveler, why put a buck
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Speaker 2: on it? That's true. That's right. I'm backing off now.
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's time travel anymore.
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Speaker 1: Because it's a long game.
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Speaker 2: He's got the.
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Speaker 4: Chad's saying he's got the sports almanac from.
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Speaker 2: Great sports almanac from... He's nickel and diming.
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16:03
Speaker 1: So Austin Riley was a big winner.
16:05
Speaker 2: One other baseball note before we flip the script to football.
16:09
Speaker 2: One thing that has been a storyline in baseball for
16:12
Speaker 2: several years now is pitchers don't make it, usually through
16:15
Speaker 2: an entire season without some kind of injury, hitting the IR.
16:19
Speaker 2: A little proof of what could be causing the problem.
16:23
Speaker 2: Since 2008, they've been charting pitches that have gone 98
16:27
Speaker 2: miles per hour or faster. 98 or higher miles per hour.
16:35
Speaker 2: In 2008, in a Major League Baseball season, there was
16:38
Speaker 2: only 3,756 pitches in 2008 that went 98 or above
16:41
Speaker 2: miles per hour on the gun. This year in 2026,
16:43
Speaker 2: there were 31,686 pitches that went 98 plus.
16:57
Speaker 1: Our technology is obviously much better, but I do wonder
17:00
Speaker 1: if you go back to the Bob Gibson days and
17:02
Speaker 1: everybody swore this guy through in the high 90s and
17:04
Speaker 1: close to 100. Guys like Steve Carlton, Nolan Ryan, I
17:08
Speaker 1: really wonder what they maxed out at. I wonder how
17:10
Speaker 1: many guys in the batter's box saw guys going 100 plus.
17:15
Speaker 2: I have had a chance over the years to talk
17:18
Speaker 2: to some veteran pitchers. One of them, I had a
17:20
Speaker 2: conversation one time with Nolan Ryan, who oftentimes threw 100.
17:23
Speaker 2: He said that Throughout their career.
17:28
Speaker 1: Especially the older pitchers like Bob Gibson, you'd have to
17:31
Speaker 1: save your spot when you'd really heat it up because
17:34
Speaker 1: the bullpens were not used back then like they're used today.
17:38
Speaker 1: Starting pitchers were expected to go seven, eight, nine innings
17:42
Speaker 1: if your team needed it. They didn't do the pitch
17:44
Speaker 1: count like they do now. They didn't do bullpens.
17:47
Speaker 2: You make it to the sixth inning or the fifth inning,
17:49
Speaker 2: you get the quality start, and then it's bullpen by
17:51
Speaker 2: committee the rest of the way. So you didn't always
17:54
Speaker 2: go out there and throw max velocity all the time.
17:57
Speaker 2: You sort of planned your day. You were going to
18:00
Speaker 2: go out there and pitch nine innings. When you guys
18:03
Speaker 2: were growing up, at what age did you start seeing
18:05
Speaker 2: breaking balls? It was supposedly illegal until you turned 13.
18:10
Speaker 2: I don't think I ever got it. Probably 11 or 12. Yeah,
18:13
Speaker 2: I was going to say 12. Yeah, and the reason
18:15
Speaker 2: they did that was they were like the young arm
18:17
Speaker 2: of you're going to ruin your arm before you even
18:19
Speaker 2: hit puberty if you start throwing breaking balls turns out
18:21
Speaker 2: it's throwing way too fast well that's what i was
18:23
Speaker 2: going to ask is that where we are now because
18:25
Speaker 2: back then when everybody was like they can't throw breaking
18:29
Speaker 2: balls until they're 13 or 14 because they'll kill their
18:32
Speaker 2: arm but buddy if you had a kid that could
18:35
Speaker 2: bring it up there i mean what's 100 miles an
18:37
Speaker 2: hour for you know 13 year olds probably what a
18:39
Speaker 2: 65 mile an hour 70 mile an hour pitch they
18:41
Speaker 2: were like He threw all those he wants. Well, we're
18:44
Speaker 2: blessed to have Dr. Andrews, the great sports medicine guy
18:48
Speaker 2: here in Birmingham over the years, and he worked on this.
18:53
Speaker 2: I don't think it really was the curves or the sliders.
18:56
Speaker 2: It was the amount of use the arms were getting. Yeah,
18:58
Speaker 2: I think it was the torque on the arm. Yeah,
19:00
Speaker 2: just the number of pitches. And he's like, your pitcher
19:04
Speaker 2: oftentimes also is your shortstop. And think of how many times,
19:06
Speaker 2: like even in between being warmed up, you get three
19:08
Speaker 2: or four balls from the first baseman throwing over the
19:11
Speaker 2: first base. And you were maxing out that speed there, too.
19:14
Speaker 2: How many throws are you actually making? Warm-up pitches between innings, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
19:18
Speaker 2: That's a good point. The wear and tear and pitch
19:20
Speaker 2: counts came from that. You like how I said it
19:22
Speaker 2: was a good point when Dr. Andrews said it? That's
19:24
Speaker 2: a good point. Yeah, it was Dr. Andrews, right? Mizoroski,
19:27
Speaker 2: the Brewers pitcher. This year, though, 101-plus miles per hour.
19:32
Speaker 2: He's thrown 743 pitches, 101-plus just this year. 653 101
19:43
Speaker 2: pitches by every other starting pitcher in Major League Baseball.
19:46
Speaker 2: And he's thrown how many? 653 in the rest of
19:48
Speaker 2: the league? and he threw how many?
19:50
Speaker 3: 743.
19:50
Speaker 2: So he's thrown more than the rest of the league.
19:53
Speaker 2: In starting pitching now. There are bullpen guys who can
19:56
Speaker 2: heat it up.
19:58
Speaker 1: There are people out there that believe he will not
20:00
Speaker 1: make it three or four years.
20:01
Speaker 2: Is Roski because he throws it so hard? He may
20:03
Speaker 2: not make it through Tuesday of next week. The next
20:06
Speaker 2: one he throws, that arm could blow up. So just
20:08
Speaker 2: a little wear and tear on the arm there. If
20:10
Speaker 2: you're wondering why, if you ever play fantasy baseball, or
20:13
Speaker 2: you're like, how come I got six pitchers that are
20:16
Speaker 2: on the IR? It's because... of the velocity there. Very
20:19
Speaker 2: different than even just in 2008. Could Greg Maddux, I
20:22
Speaker 2: think he could survive in today's game.
20:24
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
20:24
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he would thrive in today's game,
20:26
Speaker 2: wouldn't he? Yeah, absolutely. Do you think so? Yeah. I mean,
20:29
Speaker 2: vintage Greg, but not today's Greg Maddux. He's 60 or whatever,
20:32
Speaker 2: but vintage Greg Maddux. Cerebral.
20:34
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not even, I was going to say
20:36
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning with the 2015 Colts.
20:37
Speaker 2: Yeah.
20:39
Speaker 1: You know, just the knowledge of the game. But, I mean,
20:43
Speaker 1: his pitch placement was just.
20:44
Speaker 2: The greatest Maddox story of all time was him intentionally
20:47
Speaker 2: giving up the home run to the guy. Because he's like,
20:49
Speaker 2: they're pretty good and we'll see him in the postseason
20:51
Speaker 2: and he'll be looking for this pitch again. And I'm
20:53
Speaker 2: not going to throw it. I mean, that was the
20:55
Speaker 2: type of stuff to set him apart. TikTok has been
20:57
Speaker 2: amazing for the Greg Maddux. Yeah, it really has. I mean,
21:00
Speaker 2: I'd forgotten how good he really was. All right. So
21:02
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Speaker 2: big one in Starkville. Also a pretty big one in Iowa.
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Speaker 2: Kirk Ferentz not happy with one phrase that is now
22:03
Speaker 2: part of college football. I'll tell you what that is next.
22:07
Speaker 2: We've got some new rivalries now that North Dakota State
22:12
Speaker 2: has moved up into college football. Them and Wyoming are
22:15
Speaker 2: in the Mountain West Conference and will play every year now.
22:19
Speaker 2: So they've developed a new trophy, a rivalry trophy, you know,
22:23
Speaker 2: to be like the little brown jug or the golden chalet.
22:28
Speaker 2: Here is the trophy that they're playing for starting this weekend,
22:31
Speaker 2: the Battle of the Basins. It's the drill bit, the
22:34
Speaker 2: drill bit. a Wyoming and a North Dakota state trophy.
22:40
Speaker 2: They'll put their winning year on it. It'll stay on campus.
22:42
Speaker 2: The drill bit trophy battle of the basins.
22:46
Speaker 1: So in 2075, when the robots are doing our show,
22:50
Speaker 1: they'll be like, this is the 50th annual battle.
22:52
Speaker 2: We have the battle of the drill bits. This is
22:55
Speaker 2: a battle of the basins drill bit trophy on the line.
22:58
Speaker 2: I'm going to put the robot voice better than your
23:01
Speaker 2: Bane voice. I like the robot. Pittsburgh. Does that man
23:04
Speaker 2: have this game in his 20-tea parlay?
23:07
Speaker 1: The AI voice is trying to sound like a human, though.
23:09
Speaker 2: It wouldn't sound like that. Good point, good point. So
23:11
Speaker 2: the drill bit, is that when we drill for oil?
23:15
Speaker 2: Good old American crude, Jimmy D.
23:17
Speaker 1: All right, so I never really think oil when I
23:20
Speaker 1: think North Dakota and Wyoming.
23:21
Speaker 2: I always think Texas, but I guess it could be
23:23
Speaker 2: a dentist.
23:24
Speaker 1: Is it the heartland of dentists? Big dental schools? No,
23:27
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23:29
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23:33
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23:36
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Speaker 1: Kirk Ferentz has the stage this week. Game days at Iowa.
24:44
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Iowa.
24:46
Speaker 2: And Kirk's not happy with a phrase that has popped up,
24:49
Speaker 2: and it popped up after the Michigan game last week.
24:52
Speaker 2: I'm going to have a hard time saying it. I-O-W-A-E-D. Iowad? Iowad. Yeah,
25:00
Speaker 2: he doesn't like that. He doesn't like it. He goes,
25:02
Speaker 2: we're not an entertainment business. We're here to win football games. Well,
25:04
Speaker 2: we are, so we can coin Iowad.
25:07
Speaker 1: I can feel Kirk doesn't like a lot of things.
25:10
Speaker 1: But Michigan got Iowad last week. Can Ohio State get
25:14
Speaker 1: Iowa this week?
25:16
Speaker 2: I just don't see it.
25:17
Speaker 1: You know what's going to be fascinating is I think
25:19
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, this is one of those games where he
25:22
Speaker 1: really wants– he showed out last week with the 12
25:24
Speaker 1: grabs and the four touchdowns, but now you're going against really,
25:27
Speaker 1: really good cornerbacks, projected NFL guys. This is an opportunity
25:32
Speaker 1: for Ohio State to not only go out and give
25:34
Speaker 1: Iowa their first loss and make a statement on the road,
25:37
Speaker 1: but also a big statement for Jeremiah Smith.
25:41
Speaker 2: Not that he needs that. I would respond to your
25:43
Speaker 2: question with a question, Jim. Can you see Hank Brown
25:47
Speaker 2: dicing up the Ohio State defense? I cannot. I cannot either.
25:50
Speaker 2: And that seems like that's going to be a problem
25:52
Speaker 2: for Iowa in this game. I mean, if Ohio State
25:56
Speaker 2: is going to get Iowa, Ohio State's going to have
25:58
Speaker 2: to turn it over a lot. And Iowa would like
26:01
Speaker 2: for this to be a sloppy, messy game.
26:05
Speaker 1: Ferentz is so good in these spots. So the last
26:07
Speaker 1: time they didn't cover against a ranked opponent in Iowa
26:10
Speaker 1: City was 2022. They were 2-0 last year. And you
26:13
Speaker 1: think about the games they had. They had Indiana.
26:16
Speaker 2: 2-0 winning or covering? Covering, but very, very.
26:18
Speaker 1: Tight against ranked opponents. So last year it was Indiana
26:20
Speaker 1: came in. You remember that game, one possession.
26:23
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's right.
26:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, they was 20-16. And then Oregon, how Oregon pulled
26:27
Speaker 1: that out of their ass in those bad conditions.
26:29
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
26:29
Speaker 1: But Iowa played them both, full 60 minutes. I just
26:33
Speaker 1: don't see it in this one, but, you know, hell,
26:35
Speaker 1: they found a way to win last week on the road.
26:37
Speaker 2: Number five at number 14 in the latest AP poll.
26:41
Speaker 2: In fairness, what they did last week, last minute win
26:43
Speaker 2: at Michigan, but is there a team in the Big
26:46
Speaker 2: Ten that's a brand that's more Iowa-like than this version
26:49
Speaker 2: of Michigan? I mean, that's... That's a struggling offense. It's
26:51
Speaker 2: almost like when we get to the NCAA tournament and
26:54
Speaker 2: you're like, when a Princeton team goes against a high-paced team,
26:58
Speaker 2: you're like, well, that's going to be great. You got
27:00
Speaker 2: the opposite of that in this one. Michigan and Iowa
27:03
Speaker 2: play a lot alike, so it wasn't like contrasting styles.
27:05
Speaker 1: That's why the total was 38.5, one of the lowest
27:07
Speaker 1: totals you'll ever see in college football.
27:09
Speaker 2: And it's what kept Iowa in the game. It's why
27:10
Speaker 2: you had the opportunity for, amazingly, Hank Brown to lead
27:13
Speaker 2: them 91 yards. Another big discussion that has been going
27:16
Speaker 2: on this week is the latest AP poll that that
27:19
Speaker 2: once again for the second week in a row has
27:21
Speaker 2: 10 different SEC teams ranked, and non-SEC coaches are griping
27:28
Speaker 2: about the AP poll, so much so that the AP
27:30
Speaker 2: poll pointed out that less than 30% of the voters
27:34
Speaker 2: are from the SEC footprint, that have a tie to
27:37
Speaker 2: the SEC, and that 70% of the votes come from
27:41
Speaker 2: outside of the SEC footprint, are ties to the SEC,
27:45
Speaker 2: and yet there are 10 teams ranked there.
27:48
Speaker 1: Here's what I would say, because you heard Klatt kind
27:50
Speaker 1: of take a shout-out at Monday, and everybody's talking about Missouri,
27:53
Speaker 1: but who are other teams you would have ranked in
27:55
Speaker 1: the top 25?
27:57
Speaker 2: Let's listen to Shannon right here. This is Miami's offensive coordinator,
28:01
Speaker 2: Shannon Dawson, who had this to say about the AP
28:05
Speaker 2: poll and specifically the Southeastern Conference.
28:08
Speaker 8: First of all, there should be no such thing as
28:10
Speaker 8: preseason rankings. That's the most ridiculous thing on the planet.
28:14
Speaker 8: That is the stupidest thing because people, people weigh those
28:19
Speaker 8: things way heavier than they should. You shouldn't have a
28:21
Speaker 8: ranking until October. But how do you know? A &
28:25
Speaker 8: M' s ranked in the top five. Well, how does that
28:27
Speaker 8: look right now? I mean, there's multiple teams. And if
28:31
Speaker 8: anything is a predictable or the future, it's the past.
28:34
Speaker 8: Go look at the top 10 last year. I did.
28:37
Speaker 8: Five of them weren't even in the top 25.
28:39
Speaker 2: So we sit here and look at, schedules.
28:42
Speaker 8: And we're like, and obviously everything's SEC, SEC. Well, look, yeah,
28:46
Speaker 8: they have all their teams in the top 25.
28:48
Speaker 2: Guess what? Good for you.
28:50
Speaker 8: At the end of the year, half of them will
28:52
Speaker 8: be in the top 30.
28:53
Speaker 2: That's just the way it is.
28:54
Speaker 8: And so we can't sit here and look at, hey,
28:56
Speaker 8: we play X number of top 25. We don't know that.
29:00
Speaker 8: We'll count those chips up at the end of the year.
29:02
Speaker 8: But that's why there shouldn't be rankings because you give
29:05
Speaker 8: people talking points that are idiots. They don't know what
29:07
Speaker 8: they're doing. Play the game. Play every week. It's like
29:11
Speaker 8: playing poker. Count the chips up at the end. You
29:14
Speaker 8: don't know at the beginning. The fact that we have
29:16
Speaker 8: preseason rankings is unbelievable to me. And the fact that
29:18
Speaker 8: people pay attention to them is more unbelievable.
29:22
Speaker 2: You're talking about it. I've never heard that guy talk.
29:24
Speaker 2: That does not match what I thought he was talking about.
29:26
Speaker 1: Does he really sound like that, or did he go
29:28
Speaker 1: to the dentist?
29:29
Speaker 2: No, he sounds like that. I would say this, though.
29:32
Speaker 2: Texas A & M, top five, he brought them up.
29:35
Speaker 2: You see Texas A & M right now, Brownie, in
29:37
Speaker 2: my sheet? I don't. They may be on the back.
29:39
Speaker 2: They're not on the front. Not on the back either.
29:41
Speaker 2: Texas A & M is not in the top five.
29:43
Speaker 2: They're not in the top 10, 15, 20, or top
29:47
Speaker 2: 25 at all, Brown. They were in the preseason. They
29:50
Speaker 2: actually weren't top five. They're not even in the top
29:52
Speaker 2: 30 now. We did what Shannon Dawson did, to my point. Yeah.
29:57
Speaker 2: We took Texas A & M, and we're here now.
30:00
Speaker 2: Even the same people that voted on the preseason poll,
30:03
Speaker 2: we're here now. And what'd they do, Brown? They watched
30:06
Speaker 2: them play football. Boy, was I wrong. Like Shannon Dawson
30:09
Speaker 2: says we should. And now, as we get to October,
30:12
Speaker 2: the rankings are out. They've watched football, and the rankings
30:14
Speaker 2: sort of reflect what the preseason ranking, if we did
30:17
Speaker 2: our first poll right now, it would look like this.
30:19
Speaker 2: In other words, what you're saying is his argument was
30:22
Speaker 2: against his argument, basically. His argument was... Lance, Texas A &
30:26
Speaker 2: M started in the top five. Now they're unranked. Well, yeah,
30:29
Speaker 2: that's the way the poll works. People adjust when they
30:31
Speaker 2: see stuff. Now, I mean, the only reason we have a–
30:37
Speaker 2: I don't know how long they've done the AP preseason
30:38
Speaker 2: top 25. Since the 1930s. So they've done a preseason
30:42
Speaker 2: since the 1930s. And it was started, wait for it,
30:45
Speaker 2: as a way to sell newspapers for the Associated Press.
30:48
Speaker 2: And it was a marketing tool for college football. Which
30:50
Speaker 2: makes sense. And I think the only reason it exists
30:53
Speaker 2: right now, because the AP has no meaning– The only
30:56
Speaker 2: reason it exists right now is so that ESPN and
30:58
Speaker 2: Fox and CBS can put that little number next to
31:01
Speaker 2: their team sometime before November. And I think we like it.
31:03
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't do any harm. It's a marketing tool.
31:05
Speaker 2: It is. It does zero harm. But his argument would be,
31:10
Speaker 2: let me look at your sheet right there, Donovan. Hold
31:12
Speaker 2: that up. That we make the SEC out to be
31:14
Speaker 2: too good. I think what his argument would be, well,
31:17
Speaker 2: I can't find a good example. I was trying to think.
31:20
Speaker 2: His argument would be. Like if you beat A & M,
31:23
Speaker 2: see nobody that was ranked beat A & M, you
31:27
Speaker 2: get credit for a top 25 win. Well, they're not
31:29
Speaker 2: a top 25 team now. Well, Kentucky beat them. They're 24th.
31:32
Speaker 2: That's a good one. So Kentucky, they're in there. They
31:34
Speaker 2: lost to a top 25 team in Alabama, but they
31:36
Speaker 2: beat a top 25 team in A & M. Well,
31:39
Speaker 2: they're not top 25 anymore. Well, guess what? If Kentucky
31:41
Speaker 2: loses this week at South Carolina, will they be here? No,
31:44
Speaker 2: they'll be out. And if Missouri loses at home to Florida,
31:47
Speaker 2: they're going to be out. They're going to be out, yes. Now,
31:50
Speaker 2: Missouri is the one, you brought this up a lot yesterday,
31:52
Speaker 2: Missouri is the one that shouldn't be in there. As
31:54
Speaker 2: an SEC guy, Missouri shouldn't be ranked. Lance, I would
31:57
Speaker 2: have Duke in front of Missouri. I wouldn't have a
32:00
Speaker 2: problem with that. I would have Missouri in front of Kentucky. Really? Yeah.
32:04
Speaker 2: Missouri is undefeated, and Kentucky does have one loss. To
32:06
Speaker 2: your point. No, Missouri lost to Mississippi State. I mean,
32:08
Speaker 2: that's right. My bad. My bad. That's why I don't
32:11
Speaker 2: want it.
32:11
Speaker 1: I just personally think through four weeks, Missouri is a
32:14
Speaker 1: little bit better than Kentucky. I think Kentucky loses this week.
32:18
Speaker 1: I actually think Missouri wins this week. But we'll see.
32:20
Speaker 2: That's why it's a week-to-week thing. That's why we do
32:22
Speaker 2: what Shannon Dawson says. We watch the game each week,
32:25
Speaker 2: and it adjusts right now. And you know when the
32:27
Speaker 2: poll matters best? The very last one. The very last one.
32:30
Speaker 2: That's when we count the chips up.
32:31
Speaker 1: But I do think Duke deserves to be ranked.
32:34
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. And I think they're a pretty
32:35
Speaker 2: good team. I do, too. And, in fact, they've got
32:37
Speaker 2: a shot at being undefeated when they play No. 4 Miami.
32:41
Speaker 2: But that's going to sort itself out. By the way,
32:44
Speaker 2: if Duke is undefeated and they beat No. 4 Miami–
32:47
Speaker 2: Duke will be probably in the top 15 or top 10. Yeah,
32:50
Speaker 2: top 10 probably. Top 10. So, I mean, it's going
32:52
Speaker 2: to sort itself out. It always does. I will say this, though.
32:55
Speaker 2: He can sit there and say that right now because
32:58
Speaker 2: in their last five games against the SEC, Miami's 5-0.
33:02
Speaker 2: And some of those came in the playoffs last year.
33:03
Speaker 2: So he can sit there and say that right now
33:05
Speaker 2: that the SEC is pumped up with a little extra
33:08
Speaker 2: air maybe in marketing because they've gone 5-0 against them.
33:10
Speaker 2: This is going to be hard to do. This is
33:12
Speaker 2: going to be really hard to do. But I'm going
33:13
Speaker 2: to challenge you to do it. Ignore everything you've seen
33:18
Speaker 2: before this season. Ignore the preseason rankings, okay? Ignore everything. Like,
33:24
Speaker 2: whatever happened last year no longer matters. The preseason rankings
33:28
Speaker 2: don't matter. Give me your top five. First, I would
33:31
Speaker 2: say I don't think Texas is number one in my book. Oh,
33:33
Speaker 2: that's fine.
33:34
Speaker 7: I don't care.
33:34
Speaker 2: Give it to me.
33:34
Speaker 1: But they've got the best win. That's what's hard, LT.
33:37
Speaker 1: That is difficult. And I will say it's almost impossible
33:40
Speaker 1: to do this based on brands.
33:42
Speaker 2: It is impossible. But I'm getting at a point here.
33:45
Speaker 2: Another thing that's hard is that who hasn't played anybody?
33:47
Speaker 2: That was my point. Miami and Notre Dame. That was
33:49
Speaker 2: my point. Were you going to have Miami in your
33:51
Speaker 2: top five? If you ignore all of last year. That's right.
33:54
Speaker 2: And you just start completely fresh. I would go Florida. See,
33:58
Speaker 2: this is what's crazy. I don't disagree with you. I
34:00
Speaker 2: would go Georgia. Georgia hasn't played anybody, but they have annihilated.
34:04
Speaker 2: They've dominated who they've played. Annihilated.
34:07
Speaker 1: I guess you would have to have Texas because they
34:09
Speaker 1: do have impressive wins.
34:11
Speaker 2: Shannon Dawson would love this. Top three for the SEC.
34:14
Speaker 1: I would go Notre Dame at four, and then I
34:16
Speaker 1: would go Miami at five.
34:18
Speaker 2: But you're putting Miami in there just because they've dominated nobody. Right.
34:22
Speaker 1: Much like Georgia, but it's like Georgia light.
34:25
Speaker 2: Yeah. You're buying stock that Notre Dame and Miami is
34:28
Speaker 2: as good as we think they are.
34:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just based everything off, and this is difficult
34:32
Speaker 1: to do, I think your top three teams, just based
34:35
Speaker 1: on four weeks, are all SEC teams.
34:37
Speaker 2: If I asked you, get out of the top 25,
34:40
Speaker 2: if I said just the top 40 in college football,
34:43
Speaker 2: and we've watched four weeks, and the three of us,
34:46
Speaker 2: we've seen every game, I think. bits and pieces of
34:48
Speaker 2: every game of the power conferences. If I said top 40,
34:53
Speaker 2: how many SEC teams are in the top 40? It's
34:57
Speaker 2: easier to do this. How many SEC teams are not
34:59
Speaker 2: in the top 40?
35:00
Speaker 1: I think there are three that are not.
35:02
Speaker 2: Arkansas definitely is not. Arkansas is not. South Carolina is not.
35:05
Speaker 2: Auburn is not. Auburn is close to it. And your
35:08
Speaker 2: transition team. Auburn is in the top 40. Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt
35:10
Speaker 2: is your transition team, and Auburn just beat Vanderbilt, so
35:13
Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to put them in the top 40.
35:16
Speaker 2: I would probably say Vandy's not top 40.
35:18
Speaker 1: I would probably say that, too.
35:19
Speaker 2: Give me an example of who's 39th and 40th in
35:21
Speaker 2: your mind, not in the SEC. Like, tell me who. Well,
35:26
Speaker 2: I mean, Duke's obviously not in the AP top 25.
35:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would go like the Arizonas and the Kansas States.
35:32
Speaker 2: Big 12 more. That's around 39 and 40. Yeah. And
35:35
Speaker 2: you don't think Auburn could beat?
35:37
Speaker 3: Oh, no, no.
35:38
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that.
35:39
Speaker 1: I'm just right now where they are. I think Saturday's
35:42
Speaker 1: game's fascinating. You know, they found a way to beat Vanderbilt.
35:45
Speaker 1: It was just a really, really boring game. I think
35:48
Speaker 1: those teams are kind of equivalent.
35:50
Speaker 2: Here's the 40th team in the AP is Northwestern. They
35:53
Speaker 2: feel like a top 40 team to me. Yeah, right
35:55
Speaker 2: at it. All right, let's just do this. North Dakota
35:57
Speaker 2: State's 39. Does that feel like a, I mean. I
36:00
Speaker 2: think North Dakota State would beat Northwestern. Yeah, but North
36:02
Speaker 2: Dakota State's played. I mean, Jack State's the best team
36:05
Speaker 2: they've played that they beat. But they've been annihilating teams too.
36:08
Speaker 2: By SEC standards, who does, in the SEC, does North
36:11
Speaker 2: Dakota State or Northwestern beat?
36:14
Speaker 1: They would beat South Carolina, I think. I think they
36:19
Speaker 1: would beat Arkansas.
36:22
Speaker 2: And then, I don't know. Oh, you can't shake your head.
36:25
Speaker 2: I don't think they'd beat South Carolina. Arkansas, maybe. Jim,
36:28
Speaker 2: I mean, they played Indiana to the wire. In Bloomington,
36:31
Speaker 2: Friday night. I'm going to stick with this.
36:33
Speaker 1: I know Boise's the trendy pick and how they played
36:35
Speaker 1: Oregon and everything. I think North Dakota State is going
36:37
Speaker 1: to be your group six rep.
36:39
Speaker 2: So, we'll get to see. Minnesota is 38. That feels
36:42
Speaker 2: like a Top 40 team to me. You said Arizona,
36:45
Speaker 2: James Madison, Cincinnati, Louisville, Nebraska. I mean, all those teams
36:50
Speaker 2: are like top 40.
36:51
Speaker 1: If the ACC is upset about it, I mean, Pittsburgh
36:53
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech winner is going to get in. They'll be
36:55
Speaker 1: a top 25 team this week. Duke, I think without
36:58
Speaker 1: playing one of those two, Kentucky or Missouri is going
37:01
Speaker 1: to lose.
37:02
Speaker 2: I think Duke will be a top 25 team this week.
37:05
Speaker 2: This is a work in progress, and I think coaches
37:07
Speaker 2: forget that sometimes, that this every week changes sometimes dramatically.
37:12
Speaker 2: And usually by the time we get to the end,
37:16
Speaker 2: it's pretty correct. Not just the AP poll, but then
37:18
Speaker 2: at some point we throw this away. What was the
37:20
Speaker 2: context of the question asked to Shannon Dawson? Too much SEC?
37:24
Speaker 2: I would imagine that. It was something like that. I
37:26
Speaker 2: did not hear the question. I've only seen for three days.
37:29
Speaker 5: It was about Wake and how good they look. And
37:33
Speaker 5: it was basically, hey, that schedule is looking a little
37:36
Speaker 5: tougher now, right?
37:37
Speaker 2: And then he drove off into the SEC.
37:39
Speaker 7: And then he was like, yeah, these preseason rankings are BS.
37:43
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't think Miami really cares about
37:46
Speaker 1: the rest of the ACC.
37:47
Speaker 2: Do you guys? I don't.
37:48
Speaker 1: I mean, what was the ACC tweet last year?
37:50
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I remember that.
37:52
Speaker 1: He took a shot at Notre Dame or something, right?
37:54
Speaker 1: Although Notre Dame plays four games in conference.
37:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were walking a tricky line. They were campaigning
37:59
Speaker 2: for Miami when Notre Dame's a quasi-member of their conference. Yeah.
38:03
Speaker 2: They play each other this year coming up in November.
38:06
Speaker 2: Until then, Notre Dame has BYU. Miami doesn't have a
38:09
Speaker 2: whole lot. You can prop Wake up all you want.
38:12
Speaker 2: Wake's a pretty good football team. I don't know how
38:15
Speaker 2: high you would have them in your top 25.
38:17
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have them in the top 25, but I
38:20
Speaker 1: think they're a borderline top 35 team.
38:23
Speaker 2: The only reason I brought Duke up is because of
38:26
Speaker 2: Danny Canale. I had not stopped to think about how
38:28
Speaker 2: odd it is that a defending Power Four Conference champion
38:33
Speaker 2: is still undefeated and is not ranked. And has actually
38:36
Speaker 2: played a decent team. I mean, a lot of teams
38:38
Speaker 2: have played nobody so far. They went and beat Illinois
38:41
Speaker 2: in Champaign, I believe it was. Was that game in Champaign? Yeah. Yeah,
38:44
Speaker 2: it was. But you could also, going back to baseball terms,
38:48
Speaker 2: do the top 10 teams starting in the American League
38:51
Speaker 2: next year, and you're not going to have the Astros
38:53
Speaker 2: who won their division because they're 81-81. Dude won that division,
38:57
Speaker 2: but what was it, record? They won their conference. But
38:59
Speaker 2: they won the conference. I know, I know, I know.
39:02
Speaker 2: But it is weird when a defending conference champion is undefeated.
39:06
Speaker 2: It is very odd. It is very odd. 5-0 Miami
39:10
Speaker 2: against the SEC. Lance has five teams that he thinks
39:15
Speaker 2: he can go ahead and say, they're not even going
39:18
Speaker 2: to make a bowl game.
39:21
Speaker 8: Right?
39:21
Speaker 2: You just told me five? Yeah.
39:22
Speaker 1: I mean, five teams that I think before the season
39:25
Speaker 1: would have surprised you they couldn't get to six wins.
39:27
Speaker 2: And when we come back, Lance, uh, ahead. You may
39:31
Speaker 2: pop the balloon of one of your favorite teams when
39:33
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39:39
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39:49
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39:54
Speaker 2: Bob Chesney, coach at UCLA, used to coach at James Madison.
39:57
Speaker 2: Billy Napier, now coaching at James Madison. All three, 4-0
40:01
Speaker 2: right now. I mean, it tells me that, I mean, well,
40:06
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was going to say it tells
40:07
Speaker 2: me that James Madison job is just a really good
40:09
Speaker 2: job right now. But, I mean, Chesney and certainly Cignetti
40:12
Speaker 2: have said, it wasn't about James Madison. It was about me.
40:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, but, you know, Billy Napier could be one of
40:17
Speaker 1: those guys you saw at Louisiana that maybe just does,
40:20
Speaker 1: you know, a.
40:20
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40:24
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40:38
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41:23
Speaker 2: you're marketing teams together. You do things. I think Desert
41:29
Speaker 2: Camo is the uniform this weekend for Texas A & M.
41:31
Speaker 2: They're going to be in a brown camo uniform. as
41:35
Speaker 2: they get ready to play host to Arkansas. It's a
41:37
Speaker 2: cool-looking uniform. Your team was playing better. Yeah, I think
41:40
Speaker 2: I'd just keep it basic. I don't know who you're
41:43
Speaker 2: saying right now. But they, yesterday, sent out a post.
41:47
Speaker 2: Bring me Forrester's microphone here. Here's the post that says,
41:50
Speaker 2: stay tuned. And they've got blank end zones because they
41:54
Speaker 2: were like new end zone design loading. Forrester?
41:57
Speaker 6: Forrester?
41:59
Speaker 2: How'd that go on social media yesterday?
42:02
Speaker 5: Well, when you give the internet a blank canvas like this.
42:08
Speaker 2: Got a few responses? It did.
42:11
Speaker 7: Here we go. We got the spirit Halloween.
42:14
Speaker 1: That's really, really good. I love a good spirit Halloween joke.
42:19
Speaker 1: By the way, that would be difficult to draw on
42:21
Speaker 1: a whiteboard.
42:22
Speaker 2: Yes, it would. That's very good. Eight and four. Eight
42:25
Speaker 2: and four. Eight and four loading. Go ahead and put
42:27
Speaker 2: eight and four in the end zone there. Yeah, me
42:29
Speaker 2: as well. That's what they get.
42:31
Speaker 7: Still paying Jimbo $ 7.
42:32
Speaker 1: 2 million a year.
42:38
Speaker 2: Help us.
42:39
Speaker 7: Please send a coordinator.
42:41
Speaker 2: Wow.
42:41
Speaker 7: Home of the 12th man.
42:42
Speaker 2: The other 11 are still looking for the ball. Boy,
42:44
Speaker 2: it's turned quick on Elko, didn't it?
42:54
Speaker 7: Same result, different year.
42:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They just got to it earlier this year.
43:00
Speaker 7: And irrelevant since 1939.
43:03
Speaker 2: God, that program, man. It's sad. It really is. Like,
43:07
Speaker 2: they have got everything you need to win except for
43:11
Speaker 2: female cheerleaders. And I don't know what else. Like, the
43:15
Speaker 2: only thing I know they're missing is female cheerleaders. Give
43:18
Speaker 2: me one other thing you think Texas A & M
43:20
Speaker 2: is missing. Well, consistent quarterback. No, no, no. I'm just... Well... A.
43:23
Speaker 1: Tradition better than the midnight yell.
43:26
Speaker 2: No, I mean, but you could fix better quarterback. Yeah, trophies. No,
43:29
Speaker 2: they're missing trophies, but I'm asking you why. I mean,
43:32
Speaker 2: the only thing I really know that they don't have
43:34
Speaker 2: that every other SEC team has is female cheerleaders. I
43:38
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw the Johnny Menzel tweet coming
43:40
Speaker 2: out of the weekend. One of their best quarterbacks of
43:44
Speaker 2: all time. I mean, he wasn't consistent. It burned pretty
43:47
Speaker 2: quick for Johnny Menzel, but his– His last two years,
43:49
Speaker 2: he won the Heisman. He was pretty good in 2013, right? Oh, yeah. Fantastic.
43:53
Speaker 2: So much so he was the first-round draft pick. He
43:56
Speaker 2: was not happy with the way things are going at
43:58
Speaker 2: Texas A & M. I don't know what fixes it.
44:01
Speaker 2: They've got the money. They've got everything. That's what I'm saying.
44:03
Speaker 2: They've got all the resources, Jim. They've got boosters that
44:06
Speaker 2: are willing to spend. They've got facilities, Lance. I mean.
44:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hardly ever see.
44:10
Speaker 2: You see it a lot with players.
44:11
Speaker 1: Players that get these massive contracts and then they seem
44:14
Speaker 1: to get a little lazy and the production falls off.
44:17
Speaker 2: You don't typically see that with coaches. And I know.
44:21
Speaker 1: There is a small contingent of A & M fans
44:23
Speaker 1: that think maybe that is Elko.
44:25
Speaker 2: I find that hard to believe. I just... I don't know.
44:28
Speaker 1: I just don't think this team's very good this year.
44:30
Speaker 9: But.
44:31
Speaker 2: Texas A & M is going to make a bowl game.
44:33
Speaker 2: They're not one of the five that you're about to
44:35
Speaker 2: pop the bubble, though, right? A & M will make
44:38
Speaker 2: a bowl game. Give me the five programs that you
44:42
Speaker 2: think will surprise me that will miss the bowls altogether.
44:48
Speaker 1: I've got them listed right here. You've got them on
44:49
Speaker 1: a dry race board? I'm just going to go on
44:50
Speaker 1: and throw them up and I'll go through them.
44:54
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech.
44:56
Speaker 1: They are coming off three consecutive winning seasons, including nine
44:59
Speaker 1: wins under Brent Key last year. This team is awful.
45:03
Speaker 1: It is the worst team in the ACC. It's kind
45:06
Speaker 1: of hard to go from where you were.
45:08
Speaker 2: They did just lose to Stanford. Oh, they're the worst
45:10
Speaker 2: team in the ACC. I think he's right. They just
45:12
Speaker 2: lost to Stanford. I mean, you tell me teams like Syracuse.
45:15
Speaker 2: Boston College. Boston College.
45:17
Speaker 1: I mean, you can at least make an argument that
45:20
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech is the worst team in the ACC.
45:22
Speaker 2: Those two play in a few weeks. We'll find out.
45:25
Speaker 2: I'll die on Chestnut Hill.
45:27
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you, like, winnable games coming up, I
45:29
Speaker 1: don't think they can beat Duke. I don't think that
45:31
Speaker 1: they're going to win at Virginia Tech. Boston College, they
45:33
Speaker 1: get them in Atlanta. They got to go to Pitt.
45:35
Speaker 1: They've got Louisville at Clemson, Wake Forest and at Georgia.
45:38
Speaker 2: They're going to struggle to find three wins. Yeah, I
45:40
Speaker 2: think they're three and nine. Yeah. And that's that may
45:42
Speaker 2: be generous. Yeah.
45:44
Speaker 1: And then, you know, I don't know. I know you
45:46
Speaker 1: guys said Brent Keyes at a Georgia Tech guy, which
45:48
Speaker 1: he is.
45:48
Speaker 2: I don't think they would fire him, but I do
45:50
Speaker 2: think this would get him squarely on the hot seat
45:52
Speaker 2: next year.
45:53
Speaker 1: Next, I got South Carolina. You know, this has been
45:55
Speaker 1: a disaster. They're coming off a four and eight loss.
45:59
Speaker 1: Shane Beamer knew that he was going to have to
46:01
Speaker 1: win and win at kind of a high level.
46:03
Speaker 2: This year for South Carolina.
46:04
Speaker 1: You had an experienced quarterback coming back, but not only
46:07
Speaker 1: are you losing, but you're losing with Dylan Stewart in
46:10
Speaker 1: that look.
46:11
Speaker 2: Okay, let's listen to Shane Beamer. He gets asked yesterday
46:14
Speaker 2: about Dylan Stewart. If you missed that, the SEC and
46:18
Speaker 2: South Carolina combined to give Dylan Stewart a one-game suspension
46:21
Speaker 2: for the punch thrown in the end zone in Tuscaloosa.
46:26
Speaker 2: Right now, Shane Beamer points out he's suspended indefinitely. He's
46:30
Speaker 2: not with the team. Here's Shane Beamer yesterday.
46:33
Speaker 1: Shane, what determines when or if Dylan will return to
46:36
Speaker 1: the program?
46:37
Speaker 9: Me.
46:41
Speaker 2: Me. That's it? Yep. I mean, the guy's on a
46:46
Speaker 2: hot seat and he hasn't done a great job this year,
46:48
Speaker 2: but I do at least appreciate that. Like, he's got
46:50
Speaker 2: to win me back over. And we talked about the
46:52
Speaker 2: punch probably wasn't the worst. It wasn't the best, but
46:56
Speaker 2: it wasn't the worst thing he did.
46:57
Speaker 1: The insubordination was the bad thing. Refused to be substituted for,
47:01
Speaker 1: didn't run off the field. He got into an argument.
47:03
Speaker 2: I don't like the way he said me, though. You
47:05
Speaker 2: don't like that?
47:05
Speaker 1: No.
47:06
Speaker 3: Yeah.
47:06
Speaker 2: Can you play it again? You just think it's like
47:09
Speaker 2: almost a condescending me. Yeah, it is.
47:11
Speaker 9: Yeah.
47:11
Speaker 2: He's very thirsty.
47:12
Speaker 1: Shane, what determines when or if Dylan will return to
47:15
Speaker 1: the program? Me. And he looks around. Anybody got a
47:20
Speaker 1: problem with that?
47:22
Speaker 2: He does do that. Give me cut 15. Now, he
47:24
Speaker 2: did go on. There was a news conference that continued,
47:26
Speaker 2: and he did go back. Well, to answer so-and-so's question.
47:28
Speaker 2: By the way, I like Shane Beamer. He's a nice guy.
47:31
Speaker 2: I think he's a little over his head. That's a
47:33
Speaker 2: difficult job. You have to sort of put your foot
47:36
Speaker 2: down when the people are doing this. Here's 15. He
47:40
Speaker 2: gets asked about the fans' frustrations with his excuses.
47:45
Speaker 9: There seems to be a growing contingent of fans that
47:47
Speaker 9: feel like they're hearing the same excuses for losses and
47:52
Speaker 9: feel frustrated with that. What do you have to say
47:54
Speaker 9: to those fans?
47:55
Speaker 3: I would say I'm frustrated, too, because I see a
47:57
Speaker 3: lot of the issues on Saturday that we need to
48:01
Speaker 3: get corrected and we need to coach better and perform better.
48:04
Speaker 2: You asked a question.
48:05
Speaker 3: People get tired of hearing about the wrong thing.
48:07
Speaker 2: Well, guess what? We had a hell of a practice today.
48:10
Speaker 2: We had a hell of a practice. You know what?
48:12
Speaker 3: So you get tired of hearing that, I'm sorry. You're
48:14
Speaker 3: going to keep hearing it, but we got some freaking
48:16
Speaker 3: awesome young men that went out there today, practiced their
48:20
Speaker 3: butts off with a ton of energy, and they hurt too.
48:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, as a fan, I really don't care what
48:26
Speaker 2: kind of practice you had today. When you're losing stuff
48:29
Speaker 2: like that, there's just nothing really you can say. Yeah,
48:31
Speaker 2: I want to see what you do on Saturday. That's right,
48:32
Speaker 2: but the problem is not practice. But here's the intersection
48:35
Speaker 2: of reality and projection here. You've got South Carolina on here,
48:41
Speaker 2: but this weekend. Oh, yeah.
48:43
Speaker 1: Well, I was going to tell you, they've got four wins.
48:46
Speaker 1: They're going to be four and eight at the end
48:48
Speaker 1: of the year. They are going to win this weekend
48:49
Speaker 1: against Kentucky.
48:51
Speaker 2: I got nationally ranked Kentucky number 24.
48:54
Speaker 1: Don't tell anybody outside of the SEC that. Then they
48:57
Speaker 1: go to Florida. They've got Tennessee. They go to Oklahoma.
49:00
Speaker 1: They've got A & M. They go to Arkansas. They'll
49:03
Speaker 1: find one of those wins. Georgia at Clemson. I think
49:06
Speaker 1: they're 4-8, back-to-back 4-8s. They have no shot at winning
49:09
Speaker 1: six games.
49:10
Speaker 2: No shot. What do you think Allen Iverson would say
49:12
Speaker 2: about that soundbite? Practice. We're talking practice.
49:14
Speaker 1: We're talking practice.
49:16
Speaker 2: Practice. Not a game. Not a game. Next up, I
49:18
Speaker 2: know Auburn fans don't want to hear this.
49:20
Speaker 1: This.
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Speaker 2: So not even a bowl game. Not even a bowl game.
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Speaker 2: They don't even come to Vestavia Bowl. They are 3-1. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: they are 3-1. They played Florida. Am I right about this?
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Speaker 2: They played Florida closer than anybody yet?
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Speaker 1: And we said if Auburn was going to have a
49:32
Speaker 1: semi-special season, they have to finish the month of September unblemished.
49:36
Speaker 1: that they had to win that Florida game. We talked
49:38
Speaker 1: about if they wanted to get to their ceiling, which
49:40
Speaker 1: was eight or nine wins, they're three and one, which
49:42
Speaker 1: is good.
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Speaker 2: Okay, but my ceiling now is a little tiny house.
49:45
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get to six and six. You just
49:46
Speaker 2: give me the wins, okay? Give me the six. Here
49:48
Speaker 2: we go, Jim. We're at three. At Tennessee this weekend.
49:50
Speaker 2: Don't like it. There's a fighting chance. There is a
49:52
Speaker 2: fighting chance. I don't like it.
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Speaker 1: The familiarity between Golish and Hypo. There's some interesting storylines there,
49:58
Speaker 1: but I just believe Tennessee wins that game. They're a
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Speaker 1: seven and a half point favorite.
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Speaker 2: At Georgia.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 2: LSU. LSU. I mean, LSU is.
50:08
Speaker 2: LSU's defense is way too good for that. It's hard
50:09
Speaker 2: to see.
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Speaker 1: That offense is going to be a step slow against
50:13
Speaker 1: LSU's defense.
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Speaker 2: To your point, what I've seen from Auburn's offensive line
50:17
Speaker 2: so much, Byron Brown surviving Knoxville is going to be hard.
50:21
Speaker 2: then Georgia, then LSU. I mean, those pass rushes, they're
50:25
Speaker 2: real the next three.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and by that time, you probably have three straight losses.
50:29
Speaker 1: Then you go to Oxford to take on Ole Miss.
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Speaker 1: Are you giving them a win there?
50:33
Speaker 2: Yeah. Seems like that will be a— The best chance
50:36
Speaker 2: of the ones you've brought up so far. Yeah, but
50:37
Speaker 2: that seems like it'll be much like against Florida, a
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Speaker 2: high score, and you're going to have to score a
50:41
Speaker 2: lot of points to keep up. So now you're 3-5
50:43
Speaker 2: if you lose that. You're 3-5, so you've got to.
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Speaker 1: Find— Arkansas at home would give them that one.
50:47
Speaker 2: There's your win. 4-5. At Mississippi State. I don't see
50:52
Speaker 2: it right now. Yeah, I'm going to need to see some.
50:54
Speaker 2: I really want to see State Saturday against Bama and
50:57
Speaker 2: then see what happens after that.
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Speaker 1: Samford, we give them one there, and then they play
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Speaker 1: at Alabama. I think they're 5-7. And that's a very,
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Speaker 1: very disappointing year. Now, that all flips if you win
51:07
Speaker 1: this weekend.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you win this weekend, you've got to revisit it.
51:09
Speaker 1: But just based on the projection, they will lose this weekend.
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Speaker 1: This next one is really, really surprising.
51:14
Speaker 2: Navy, yeah. So you don't think Navy goes to a
51:16
Speaker 2: bowl game? Just let me go through it for you. Bad,
51:19
Speaker 2: bad loss for them Friday night at UAB. It was.
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Speaker 1: And if they can lose to UAB, they're now 0-2
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Speaker 1: in the American. Here's what they've got coming up. They're
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Speaker 1: dogs this week at Air Force. Very winnable game.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But I kind of lean Air Force in that game.
51:31
Speaker 2: Altitude game. I lean Navy. Okay.
51:33
Speaker 1: They've got Tulsa after that coin flip.
51:36
Speaker 2: Oh, Navy beats Tulsa. Tulsa sucks. Mike's on the back. Yep.
51:39
Speaker 2: They go to UTSA. That's a loss.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: North Texas, one of the best rosters in the American.
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Speaker 1: That's a coin flip. Notre Dame, that's a loss. Temple
51:49
Speaker 1: will give them a win. Memphis, I think that's a loss.
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Speaker 1: At Charlotte, then Army. I think Army-Navy is for a bull.
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Speaker 2: Bid for Navy.
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Speaker 7: Wow.
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Speaker 2: For Navy. What about Army, you think?
51:59
Speaker 1: I think Army's probably got one locked up at that point.
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Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah. And then finally. With Navy, I mean, somebody's
52:06
Speaker 2: got Navy in the playoffs up here. Who was that?
52:09
Speaker 2: This is why they're searching for a bull bid. Well,
52:10
Speaker 2: I mean.
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Speaker 1: The Navy was coming off back-to-back double-digit wins. And, you know,
52:14
Speaker 1: it was, I don't want to say it was trendy,
52:16
Speaker 1: but I, you know, you weren't the only person that
52:19
Speaker 1: said that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had Navy as my group of six if
52:21
Speaker 2: you weren't with us.
52:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Big 12, hard to believe, TCU just,
52:25
Speaker 1: how was it, five years ago, four years ago, going
52:28
Speaker 1: on five years, played for a national championship.
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Speaker 2: They're coming off a.
52:31
Speaker 1: Nine-win season, back-to-back nine-win seasons for Sonny Dyches. They've got
52:35
Speaker 1: BYU this weekend. They're sitting at 2-2. They've got to
52:38
Speaker 1: go to Baylor. They've got West Virginia, Kansas, at Arizona,
52:41
Speaker 1: Kansas State, Utah, and Texas Tech.
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Speaker 2: Hard to find six wins there. I don't think they're
52:45
Speaker 2: getting six wins. They need four more wins. Kansas is bad.
52:48
Speaker 2: I'll give them Kansas. That's three. Now you've got to
52:50
Speaker 2: find three more.
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Speaker 1: You're just not going to find three more on that schedule.
52:55
Speaker 1: That is going to be five really, really disappointing fan
52:58
Speaker 1: bases this year.
52:58
Speaker 2: This is why we should not have preseason polls. Yeah.
53:01
Speaker 2: How many were in those preseason polls? Not many. I
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Speaker 2: don't think any. South Carolina. I don't think any. Or Navy.
53:06
Speaker 2: Maybe some Navy.
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Speaker 1: But, I mean, if I would have told you guys
53:10
Speaker 1: that these five teams, if I would have gone to
53:12
Speaker 1: Hard Rock and I would have said, give me a
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Speaker 1: dollar parlay on these five teams not to make a
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Speaker 1: bowl game.
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Speaker 2: We'd be showing your ticket right now. You would be. Absolutely.
53:19
Speaker 2: All right. If you just see the screenshot of that
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Speaker 2: right there and you're passing us, don't think that's something
53:24
Speaker 2: good about your team. That's five teams that are not
53:26
Speaker 2: going to go to a bowl game according to Lance.
53:28
Speaker 1: Do you think any fan base would battle me on
53:30
Speaker 1: that right now after one month?
53:31
Speaker 2: I think Auburn would. Okay. Yeah. They are three and one,
53:34
Speaker 2: so it does feel different. But I think they also
53:36
Speaker 2: look at their upcoming schedule like, dang. And they knew
53:38
Speaker 2: that upcoming schedule. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I will say,
53:40
Speaker 2: because you had Florida number one in your– if we
53:42
Speaker 2: did the poll today– They did play them. A very
53:46
Speaker 2: hypothetical poll, yes. They did play them harder than anybody
53:49
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