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- 0:00This is Scott Becker with the Beckers health
- 0:03care podcast.
- 0:05Today's discussion is
- 0:07eight issues that we're watching in health care,
- 0:10and we'll talk a little bit about
- 0:12the Triple Aim,
- 0:14supply demand challenges,
- 0:16technology,
- 0:17the payers,
- 0:18health systems,
- 0:20you know, a little bit more.
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- 0:57So so here's seven or eight issues that
- 0:59we're watching in health care.
- 1:00First,
- 1:01we talk about the triple aim is trying
- 1:04to lower cost,
- 1:06improve quality, and improve access.
- 1:09It seems like currently that we're moving largely
- 1:12in the wrong direction on all three of
- 1:14these points of the triple
- 1:16aim. Health care inflation
- 1:18is on the rise. I know we're now
- 1:19at more than 30,000 a year for a
- 1:22family of four for insurance through commercial insurers.
- 1:25Where it's about where most families in the
- 1:27country make less than 75 or $80,000 a
- 1:29year. So those are numbers that just don't
- 1:31work.
- 1:32As we run into tremendous shortages of physicians
- 1:36and specialties
- 1:38and subspecialties
- 1:39and across the board,
- 1:40becomes harder and harder to have access that
- 1:42we wanna hear for our population.
- 1:45And then if you can't have access,
- 1:47you can't have quality.
- 1:49And even on the quality side, The United
- 1:51States health system does some things remarkably right
- 1:54and is remarkably challenging,
- 1:56but it's very here to have the kind
- 1:57of quality you wanna have when the bench
- 2:00in many specialties
- 2:01is getting lighter and lighter. So we look
- 2:04at this and say on the triple aim,
- 2:06we're ultimately moving in the wrong direction, and
- 2:08we've gotta figure out a way to fix
- 2:10this. It does strike me as we talk
- 2:12about this that Washington DC
- 2:14on the right and the left is somewhat
- 2:16broken and not focused on solving the real
- 2:19problems,
- 2:20but but focused more on political sloganeering
- 2:22on both sides of the table.
- 2:24Second,
- 2:26we talk often about supply demand,
- 2:28and I often think that supply demand is
- 2:30the fundamental problem in health care.
- 2:33We're at about a million one physicians
- 2:35versus a population of 350,000,000
- 2:38people.
- 2:39We're increasingly running into shortages of specialties
- 2:43in many specialties.
- 2:44You're also in a spot where in subspecialties,
- 2:47and I remember the situation with a very
- 2:49close friend
- 2:50who died of a melanoma of the eye
- 2:52and cancers the last year or so.
- 2:55You know, how once you got past the
- 2:56first two specialists in that particular cancer, there
- 2:59was nobody else left. And whenever one of
- 3:01those doctors was on vacation, and this wasn't
- 3:04at one place, this was in the entire
- 3:05country,
- 3:06he couldn't get help or couldn't get access.
- 3:09The shortage of specialist and subspecialist
- 3:12is becoming
- 3:13incredibly acute,
- 3:14and I think people are starting to see
- 3:16that very much. You need to know somebody
- 3:18to get somebody. You need to know somebody
- 3:20to get to the right specialist,
- 3:21and that's also a horrible thing, the supply
- 3:23and demand challenge for health equity as well.
- 3:26Third, in terms of primary care, where
- 3:29arguably hundreds of thousands of primary care doctors
- 3:32short already. If we really want to have
- 3:34the traditional model where you were seen by
- 3:36a primary care physician and stay with that
- 3:38primary care physician for a lot of your
- 3:40life, that seems to be moving towards an
- 3:42age of the past and being filled in
- 3:44by PAs,
- 3:45nurses, advanced practitioners, and that's okay. That's not
- 3:48a bad thing. But but that's what's happening
- 3:50because we're so short on primary care.
- 3:52Currently, we produce about 25,000
- 3:55doctors a year, about 10,000 to 12,000 doctors
- 3:58retire a year. A huge percentage also go
- 4:01part time,
- 4:02by the time they're 40 to 45 or
- 4:04so. And we and we've got challenges on
- 4:06medical education that we'll talk about that in
- 4:08a second. But at the end of the
- 4:09day, the numbers just don't work. We're producing
- 4:11about twenty, twenty five thousand doctors a year.
- 4:13We're losing about 10 to 12,000 doctors a
- 4:15year. Thank God that we have immigrant doctors
- 4:19to help fill some of those gaps, some
- 4:20of the very best doctors in many of
- 4:22our communities from other countries, and thank God
- 4:24for them.
- 4:26Another thing I'll note, medical education.
- 4:29Medical education of the country was largely developed
- 4:31prior to the Internet.
- 4:33You've still got four years of college, four
- 4:35four years of med school, three to four
- 4:37years of residency,
- 4:38often a fellowship. So doctors aren't getting out
- 4:41till '30, '31, '32. And, again, many are
- 4:44part time by '40, '45, '50.
- 4:47The number just doesn't work, and we have
- 4:48to shorten medical education, get rid a year
- 4:51of med school, get rid of a year
- 4:53of residency.
- 4:55You know, in other countries, they produce doctors
- 4:57that we rely on here that are some
- 4:59of our best doctors. By the time they're
- 5:01'27, 28,
- 5:02we're at thirty, thirty one, 32.
- 5:05And you you contrast that against an aging
- 5:07growing population
- 5:09in more cancers, more heart disease, more everything
- 5:12than ever before.
- 5:13We've gotta figure out a way to manage
- 5:15that. Just as an example,
- 5:17more and more situations where you end up
- 5:19in these discussions.
- 5:21I was on a podcast with a dermatologist.
- 5:24She's the one dermatologist
- 5:25for 500,000
- 5:26people in Northern Minnesota.
- 5:28Similarly, neurology,
- 5:30same problem. Was on a podcast
- 5:32with a neurologist, one neurologist for 500,000 people
- 5:35in Texas. And this is at a in
- 5:37an area of Texas. And this is at
- 5:38a time when, of course, dementia, Alzheimer's, etcetera,
- 5:41is all on the rise. People are aging
- 5:43and and and staying alive longer, but they're
- 5:45they're not not sick.
- 5:46Few other things. Nurse education has improved dramatically
- 5:49the last few years.
- 5:50People may complain about it, but we're getting
- 5:52nurses
- 5:53out of training quicker than before. We're producing
- 5:56about a 175,000
- 5:57to 180,000
- 5:58nurses a year. That's a huge move in
- 6:00the right direction.
- 6:02We talked about this already. The era of
- 6:04the core primary care physician, where you have
- 6:06the same primary care physician for life, maybe
- 6:08very much coming to an end and it's
- 6:10more transactional and filling in the gaps and
- 6:12PAs and everything else. The PAs are largely
- 6:15terrific, so it's not a knock on PAs,
- 6:17but it's a different model that we're moving
- 6:19towards.
- 6:20Finally, ER wait times are another example where
- 6:23we're in supply and demand. Just ten years
- 6:25ago, systems were advertising.
- 6:28They can get in and out of the
- 6:29ER in thirty minutes. Now you're lucky to
- 6:31get in and out two and a half
- 6:32to four hours. It just has changed dramatically
- 6:34over a ten year period because there's no
- 6:36place for patients to go.
- 6:38Third, I'll mention rural health care. Rural health
- 6:42care is in a vicious cycle,
- 6:44lower population,
- 6:46can't attract doctors,
- 6:48systems close down labor and delivery, and it
- 6:51becomes a very much a vicious cycle because
- 6:53you can't get people to come to areas,
- 6:55live in areas if there's not enough health
- 6:57care, and health care professionals won't go there
- 7:00if there's not enough population. So the whole
- 7:02thing has gotten to be a a real
- 7:03challenge in a vicious negative cycle. Russell in
- 7:06a spot where doctors today,
- 7:09other than a generation ago, largely wanna go
- 7:11to the top 30 to 50 metro areas,
- 7:14of physician,
- 7:18and her husband, a physician and his wife,
- 7:20or whoever
- 7:22largely wanna go to the top thirty, fifty
- 7:23metro areas, and that's very different than a
- 7:25generation ago where many went to smaller towns,
- 7:28smaller communities.
- 7:29There's lots of efforts to try and change
- 7:30this, but it but it's very hard.
- 7:33Fourth issue I'll note is the payers continue
- 7:36to have massive power.
- 7:38The government essentially through Medicare and managed care,
- 7:41Medicare and Medicaid
- 7:42has turned over a huge amount of the
- 7:44federal fisc to the major payers.
- 7:47Four of the major payers are amongst the
- 7:49four largest companies in America.
- 7:52That's UnitedHealthcare,
- 7:54CVS Aetna,
- 7:55Elavance,
- 7:56Cigna.
- 7:57You've got a situation where those payers have
- 8:00traumatic power compared to large health systems and
- 8:03practices,
- 8:04and And, also, the entire payer complex has
- 8:06become too complicated for many small practices,
- 8:09and and huge resources are used by it
- 8:11on it by even large health systems and
- 8:14just really a waste of money and time.
- 8:16Medical loss ratios were down to eighty, eighty
- 8:18two percent a few years ago, and the
- 8:20payer industry cheered over this. But it's really
- 8:22a disaster because that means we're spending 18%
- 8:25on an administrative cost as those medical cost
- 8:28ratios have come up to 89%.
- 8:32We're still spending a tremendous amount on administration
- 8:35of health care versus actually delivering health care
- 8:37in in sort of a a debacle.
- 8:39When I talk about the payers
- 8:41and watch the political theater in Washington,
- 8:44you have congressman, congresswoman
- 8:46questioning and berating the insurance executives.
- 8:50But but it it's really very circular because
- 8:53the problem that has developed is largely because
- 8:56the United States federal government has turned over
- 8:59and state governments
- 9:00have turned over so much money to the
- 9:03big payers to to run Medicare Advantage, to
- 9:06run Medicaid managed care plans. And they've done
- 9:08so with the intent
- 9:09that those big payers would would say no,
- 9:13would cut costs because there's no other way
- 9:15to get where you want to get to,
- 9:17which is
- 9:18lower cost without some rationing. I'm I'm not
- 9:20a fan, but this is what's happened. So
- 9:22you've got exactly what the federal government has
- 9:25paid for
- 9:26happening with payers denying care or making pre
- 9:28authorized. It's very hard,
- 9:30and it's really challenging, but it's led to
- 9:31gigantic
- 9:33payers. It's led to the government criticizing the
- 9:35payers,
- 9:36but the government's one has turned over the
- 9:38money to the payers.
- 9:39Fifth, we'll talk about AI and technology. What
- 9:42we're seeing throughout health care is cascading use
- 9:45cases.
- 9:47Great, great movement on the enterprise
- 9:49and on the side of administrative side,
- 9:52moving and making progress on the clinical side,
- 9:55still a long way to go. I'm a
- 9:57big believer that our problems will be solved
- 9:59through a mix of technology and people that
- 10:02we don't wanna fully rely on technology and
- 10:04not put in more residency spots for specialists.
- 10:07I believe that we need both great technology
- 10:09and more residency programs. It can't be one
- 10:11or the other. We'll end up in a
- 10:13horrible situation. Sort of a trust plus verify.
- 10:16Yes. Technology will take us a long way,
- 10:18but we better increase the number of residencies
- 10:21and the number of specialists we have as
- 10:22well to take care of our aging and
- 10:24growing population.
- 10:26The sixth issue I'll talk about is large
- 10:29health systems, large health systems.
- 10:32You're about 60% of health systems have some
- 10:34margin, about 40% don't.
- 10:37By and large,
- 10:39health systems are very busy. They're quite full.
- 10:42People criticize health systems for their business model,
- 10:45but at the end of the day, health
- 10:47systems have huge bricks and mortar. They've got
- 10:49huge labor needs. I don't know a way
- 10:51around that. And and I think health systems
- 10:53are doing a pretty good job of managing
- 10:55with the situation they have. And what has
- 10:57been proven over the years is we very
- 11:00much need our hospitals and health systems, and
- 11:02they're often they're pretty much the backbone of
- 11:04the safety net in our country, so very
- 11:06much needed. The larger doing better.
- 11:09Smaller independent ones are struggling. Rural ones are
- 11:11struggling.
- 11:13What what I say to hospitals talking about
- 11:14strategy is that they need often a clear
- 11:17purpose.
- 11:18Here is what they're gonna be great at,
- 11:20something that they're gonna be great at.
- 11:22The seventh thing I'll talk about is the
- 11:24tiering of health care. So we're going through
- 11:27a period of time where, economically,
- 11:29we're seeing a whole different level of tiering
- 11:31of health care. And and I'll go through
- 11:34this compared to the old days, commercial insurance
- 11:37versus Medicare versus Medicaid versus indigent care.
- 11:41On the commercial side, you had better access,
- 11:43perhaps better quality.
- 11:44On the Medicare side,
- 11:45okay. On the Medicaid side, more challenging. On
- 11:48the injured side, more challenging.
- 11:50Now what you've seen in the commercial side
- 11:51break down into a whole another tier, we've
- 11:54got a concierge tier. So you've got
- 11:58concierge where people are paying access fees for
- 12:00primary care.
- 12:03Recently, a cardiology practice in our area, dermatology
- 12:06practice in our area have added in administrative
- 12:08fees and essentially concierge fees. You gotta pay
- 12:10those to have access to the practice.
- 12:12What this leads to is a whole different
- 12:14level of health equity concerns,
- 12:17tiering of health care concerns that essentially the
- 12:20very wealthy, the top 10% could afford this
- 12:22concierge stuff
- 12:24that the rest of people, commercial, Medicare, Medicaid
- 12:26engine, can have less access.
- 12:28I don't, for one, blame the doctors, specialists,
- 12:32primary care, the duty concierge at all, but
- 12:35it does point to the absolute need for
- 12:37more supply and demand.
- 12:39Those primary care doctors going concierge
- 12:42were overwhelmed under the old system, can make
- 12:44a nice living under a concierge system. I
- 12:46don't blame them one bit. But somehow or
- 12:48another, we've gotta come back to how do
- 12:50we solve this issue of supply and demand.
- 12:51There's not so much incentive to go to
- 12:53concierge
- 12:54and so much lack of access for the
- 12:57rest of us that aren't on concierge.
- 12:59The f eighth point I'll talk about in
- 13:01terms of health care, and I'll just mention
- 13:02it shortly. I had a chance to visit
- 13:05with a graduate class in health systems management.
- 13:09Brilliant group. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
- 13:12And and when they ask for advice on
- 13:14what they should look at,
- 13:15what I think about is to really focus
- 13:17on what you're seeing, what your common sense
- 13:19shows you.
- 13:21If you see
- 13:22a a a three hour wait in the
- 13:24yard,
- 13:25why is that happening? What's the shortage? What's
- 13:27the problem? Why is it happening? If you
- 13:29see in your inpatient services and people can't
- 13:31get access to an an oncologist,
- 13:34why is it happening? What's going on? And
- 13:35and to see what you see and then
- 13:38to advocate for it, and at the same
- 13:40time, of course, do the best job you
- 13:41can. It's really based on quality of care,
- 13:45quality of service. Probably the best leader in
- 13:47the country that I hear constantly talk about
- 13:49the core mission
- 13:51is the CEO, Jenny Spizzo, of UCLA
- 13:54Health, who constantly talks about it's all about
- 13:57are we doing great quality for our patients,
- 13:59great patient care, and we're really taking care
- 14:02of patients. And, honestly, coming back to that,
- 14:04but but as a graduate health student,
- 14:07you know, a master's in health administration,
- 14:11use your view, your your perspective on it.
- 14:13Yours is as important as anybody else's as
- 14:16to what's going wrong, what's going right, and
- 14:18then advocate for what's needed. I wanna thank
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