Latest / Called to Serve / Kathy Neily
Transcript
- 0:01Hello and welcome today. You will be hearing from Kathy
- 0:04melee Kathy was ordained in 1986 and went on to serve in Bedford
- 0:09Baptist Church. And First Baptist, Charlottetown
- 0:12Kathy shares, her story of being called, and ordained Ministry.
- 0:15The challenges of balancing her call with parenting and how she
- 0:18experienced God's healing firsthand?
- 0:22My dad is a Baptist pastor we grew up out west.
- 0:26I was born in Saskatchewan and lived there till I was three.
- 0:30We moved to Penticton, British Columbia till I was 9, then went
- 0:34to Calgary Alberta and then Windsor Ontario.
- 0:38And then at that point, I did high school and went to Western
- 0:43University growing up in church. I felt like it was family and
- 0:49certainly was the center of our Lives as a Pastor's family.
- 0:53I never felt embarrassed about my dad being a pastor.
- 0:58I was proud of it in grade. 8, I had the privilege of leading my
- 1:03best friend to the Lord and she is still a Believer to this day.
- 1:08I came to Christ at age 12. I just really understood that
- 1:13God doesn't have grandchildren and my parents were Believers,
- 1:16but I needed to do that for myself.
- 1:18But I really didn't fully understand until I was 16 when I
- 1:21realized. I needed to give everything to
- 1:24the Lord that started. The whole idea of ministry.
- 1:29When I, I realized that God could use me.
- 1:32I did struggle with it because I was a female and at that time,
- 1:35that and I want to obey scripture.
- 1:38I'm I believe in everybody human, right?
- 1:42And all of that, but I wasn't really a women's libber per se.
- 1:46I just believed the scriptures and that all are created equal,
- 1:49but an elk. The looked at the ones that were
- 1:51talking about women not to be Can I did some reading on that
- 1:54there was a book written by. I can't remember the name of it
- 1:58now, but it was put out for the women missionary societies
- 2:01reading list, one year. And it was about a woman in a
- 2:04denomination where she wasn't even allowed to speak.
- 2:06And so it just talked about her journey and her finding of
- 2:10ministry. And that I found that very
- 2:12helpful and it, examined. All the passages of scripture.
- 2:16I went to Urbana, and I heard Helen Rusev are there.
- 2:21She was. Easing.
- 2:22She was a missionary in the Congo rebellion and she talked
- 2:26about being in the rebellion and being raped and being thrown on
- 2:32a floor with all the other people in her Village and God
- 2:36coming to her. Jesus saying he would be her her
- 2:39husband, and sleeping peacefully in the midst of all this.
- 2:43And then, seeing how this terrible tragedy that happened
- 2:46to her, he came his way of helping her break into the, to
- 2:52the Lives of the people in them responding to the gospel.
- 2:55Those were things that really spoke to me.
- 2:58And I finally just said, Lord, I'm just going to be obedient
- 3:01you because I feel that you are calling me.
- 3:04And so I need to hear that and respond to that, I don't fully
- 3:09understand all the scriptures. But I just felt that I had to be
- 3:14obedient because I had a very verbal relationship with God.
- 3:19Like we spoke all the time. I guess when I moved to Windsor
- 3:22and grade, I was very lonely for about three or four months for
- 3:25human contact. So, I had quite a ongoing
- 3:29conversation with god. All the time at school and
- 3:31things like that. I was at Acadia, 82 to 84.
- 3:36So, in 84 in September, I came to Bedford Baptist Church.
- 3:42I graduated that past April, or May, and when home to Ontario to
- 3:48get married, my husband's name is Dawn Neely and my husband.
- 3:52Started medical school at the same time, so it was, it was
- 3:55interesting how God worked out because my husband only applied
- 3:59to Dalhousie University and I only applied to bed for Baptist
- 4:04Church. Like I really believe in call so
- 4:08I didn't go for job interviews at Acadia.
- 4:10I just waited until somebody felt that I was the right person
- 4:15and then we engaged and that was Bedford.
- 4:17And so it was shortly after that that I started the process.
- 4:21It was either 85 or 86 that I was ordained.
- 4:25Think I was the only female ordained the year that I was
- 4:28ordained and to of the male pastures voted against me.
- 4:33I've been on examining councils since then myself sitting as a
- 4:37member of an association, I think it's softened up a bit, it
- 4:41felt a bit like a bear pit. When I was in there because we
- 4:45were on stage and they were all sitting up in the seats above
- 4:48me. So, it was a bit intimidating
- 4:50and I mean, you, Buddy, the statement of faith and statement
- 4:56of Union, and all these things. And you look over your own work,
- 4:59before you go in. But you don't know what
- 5:01anybody's going to ask you. My husband said one thing that
- 5:05was very helpful to me. Just said, when they asked a
- 5:08question just say that's a very good question.
- 5:11It gives you a moment to think and it was hugely helpful to me
- 5:17and I remember just feeling that God gave me words to say when I
- 5:22was There. And I felt I felt the process
- 5:25was very good. It was a bit difficult when I
- 5:27entered the room because the fellow that had been in just
- 5:30before me, did not make ordination.
- 5:33So, when I walked in, I could feel as a female, the heaviness
- 5:38in the atmosphere and I didn't know why that was dr.
- 5:42McCrae was leading the process. He was great.
- 5:45And I just felt warmly accepted by those on stage.
- 5:50And by, like I said, most of the people that were examining me at
- 5:53that point, and I totally understood why those who vote
- 5:57against me because they were going with their convictions.
- 5:59And that's really important that we do that.
- 6:02And like I said, I take the scriptures as the truth.
- 6:07So I understand some people's conflict.
- 6:10So, I was four years at Bedford Baptist Church.
- 6:14I didn't preach much at all on Sunday mornings, I was in charge
- 6:20of the children's story and Of Sunday school.
- 6:24I was a Christian educator so that was fine.
- 6:27So I had to make sure it was the best children's story that there
- 6:30ever could be. Since that was my, my one
- 6:33opportunity with the congregation and during that
- 6:36time, my husband was doing his medical studies.
- 6:39When he finished that we were entering into a residency for
- 6:44Family Medicine which was two years of traveling all around
- 6:47the maritime. So at that point I resigned my
- 6:50position and by then I was pregnant.
- 6:52With her first child following that I had a period of 10 years
- 6:58where I was not in paid Ministry.
- 7:00Now, at that point, I we were at new - Baptist Church.
- 7:05They did ask me to consider coming on staff, but I didn't
- 7:09feel like that point because my children are quite young and I
- 7:12had three children in four years and my husband was very busy
- 7:17with his medical practice. It is different when you're a
- 7:20mom then Then it can be if you're single, or your the mail
- 7:26in the partner and you're the one in full-time Ministry.
- 7:31We have three children of our own and to Kenyan girls who came
- 7:35to us. When we were at new - they were
- 7:37in going into High School, their family was attending our church
- 7:41and the parents were going back to Kenya.
- 7:44So they came to live with us, they were 16 and 15, he lived
- 7:49with us and our children, our preschoolers at that point.
- 7:52And then we made a move to Prince, Edward Island in 96.
- 7:57And we've been there ever since, now, in that I also was
- 8:00pregnant, although I miscarried. So that was one of the big
- 8:04reasons why we left Nova Scotia because we realized that, my
- 8:08husband had to have a practice where he could support us,
- 8:12because I thought I was going to be staying home with another
- 8:14baby. That was a difficult period, but
- 8:17it was what moved us to Pei. Because that point I was working
- 8:21in my husband. his office, because we were trying to make
- 8:24ends meet Okay, when we came to Pei, we looked around for a
- 8:31church and we went to several, we felt called back to First
- 8:36Baptist, but it wasn't because it was, it was fantastic though.
- 8:40There wasn't a lot going on in between Sundays when we arrived.
- 8:43And we were there a year when they set out a new ministry
- 8:47position in the church and it was integrating new families at
- 8:52that point. People came to me and asked if I
- 8:55I would consider putting my name in and that that for me was a
- 8:59sign that God wanted me to do that.
- 9:01So then they asked me as a church if I would consider
- 9:04taking over the Christian education portfolio and that was
- 9:08my training. So I said sure I when I first
- 9:11came on it was 20 hours a week which I felt was doable with my
- 9:14young family. So I did 20 hours a week for a
- 9:17year and then I took 30 hours on although I probably did 40 to
- 9:2160. So I was able to be home with my
- 9:24children. In the daytime around suppertime
- 9:28and bedtime, and then I would go out and do more Ministry in the
- 9:33evenings, for those 10 years, your family's very important.
- 9:38We need your time. And I think that's for both male
- 9:42and females, but especially with my husband having a busy
- 9:45practice, 11 parent, you see has more of a load with raising the
- 9:49children. I struggled, I was having some
- 9:53health problems and I struggled for about six months deciding
- 9:57whether I should or shouldn't stay there.
- 10:00There was a lot of conflict going on in the church so it was
- 10:03affecting me physically. So I took six months to consider
- 10:09and decided that I wouldn't go back then I took a position for
- 10:13six and a half years at Atlantis Baptist, nursing home as
- 10:16chaplain. I really loved it for the time
- 10:21that I was there. The residents were just
- 10:23incredibly sweet. It was only a 10-hour position
- 10:27with 100 million think, 115 resident.
- 10:30I loved it. But we were looking for
- 10:33something with more income for me.
- 10:36And so I ended up what I'm doing now, because we also go on a lot
- 10:41of short-term mission trips, my husband and I, we've done to, to
- 10:45Bolivia, we've done three to Haiti and we've done, I think
- 10:49we've done eight who we needed to earn some money to be able to
- 10:53do these trips. So I've been Been actually doing
- 10:56Airbnb out of our house. We have an apartment on our
- 10:59house. We also went through a period
- 11:02after our pastor. Well, our pastor organist and
- 11:06myself, we all got cancer. At the same time, we all had non
- 11:12Life Style, rare, non-hereditary cancer.
- 11:16This was 2004. So our pastor only lived 14
- 11:20months past that time he was just a fantastic Pastor.
- 11:24He was he was in Eight caregiver, and he was great with
- 11:27the staff. So he spent a lot of time going
- 11:29around with all of us supporting us in our Ministries and doing a
- 11:33lot of visitation and things like that.
- 11:34So he passed away kind of in the midst of all this deeply loved
- 11:40as a pastor, I had had cancer as well.
- 11:44I'd had a major surgery because I had a tumor growing through
- 11:47the wall of my stomach. I really saw the hand of God
- 11:51through that though because the kind of cancer I had was Called
- 11:55gist, gastrointestinal stromal tumor and 90% of them grow back
- 12:01in 92, 18 months. So I felt that God wanted us to
- 12:07have a healing service Pastor, Richard didn't come to it
- 12:10because he was struggling with lung cancer and felt that he
- 12:13couldn't be exposed to the crowds that Gloria came organist
- 12:18and she and I were both prayed for Jonathan steeper came from
- 12:22Moncton, he was pastoring there and he led The service I asked
- 12:26him to come and Lead it. And so he came and led and we
- 12:29prayed for all those that were Afflicted.
- 12:33One lady was healed from carpal tunnel syndrome.
- 12:37She had been to many other services of healing.
- 12:39And she was sitting in a few having an argument with God
- 12:42because God said to go forward and said, I'm not going forward
- 12:44and I've been prayed for many times and anyway, she went for
- 12:47it and my dad prayed for her and she wrote a letter later, this
- 12:51is how we know that she was healed.
- 12:52She said he prayed a very perfunctory prayer.
- 12:55Are. But God still used him to heal
- 12:58her. And my dad was shocked because
- 13:00he had never been involved in a healing service before.
- 13:03And I said, dad, why do you think God used you for that
- 13:07service? He said I don't know.
- 13:08And I said I think I know I said you were broken hearted because
- 13:12I was sick with cancer and he was giving you the sign that
- 13:17things were going to be okay, that he was working.
- 13:20And so I was prayed for and I don't know some period of time
- 13:25later. A few weeks later, I was in the
- 13:27middle of church praising. We were just in the middle of
- 13:30praise and worship and I was standing and just worshiping
- 13:34God. And I felt this sense of
- 13:35well-being. Go through my toes right up to
- 13:39the top of my head, I don't know how else to describe it.
- 13:41I said that was really weird I just suddenly feel well anyway
- 13:45the tumors have never grown back.
- 13:47I didn't know for three years that that was the case because I
- 13:51was in a study I had to go to Halifax and First, it was every
- 13:56two weeks and it was once a month, and then it was once
- 13:58every three months and then every six months and then once a
- 14:00year for three years, and at the end of three years, they told me
- 14:05that I was not receiving, like, we were given medication, but we
- 14:08didn't know if it was Placebo or the meds and that point, he
- 14:12said, I can. Now tell you what, side of the
- 14:14study you were on and he said, you were on the placebo.
- 14:18So I knew God had done a healing work.
- 14:23I just hope that People will follow what God speak to them
- 14:29about and allow themselves to go on the Journey of ministry.
- 14:33If they're feeling that he is leading them because it's a
- 14:37wonderful Rich experience. God will provide a way for you
- 14:41to be in Ministry and to enjoy the other things of life, like
- 14:45being a mother grandmother, a wife, a friend, there's a
- 14:49richness there with, in places that I might surprise you, if
- 14:52you're obedient to the call of God.
- 14:55You just need to be obedient and he'll that the path before you
- 14:59and work things out. Thank you, Kathy, for sharing
- 15:03your story with the project. You can find more information
- 15:06about called to serve at called the served out ca or by emailing
- 15:09us at called, to serve at Acadia U.C a, if you've been enjoying
- 15:13this podcast, please rate US and leave a review.
- 15:16This helps others find the show until next week.
- 15:18Thank you for listening. Thank you, Kathy, for sharing
- 15:03your story with the project. You can find more information
- 15:06about called to serve at called the served out ca or by emailing
- 15:09us at called, to serve at Acadia U.C a, if you've been enjoying
- 15:13this podcast, please rate US and leave a review.
- 15:16This helps others find the show until next week.
- 15:18Thank you for listening.