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9-16-26 - Cowherd goes nuclear on Nix/CFB STOCK UP - STOCK DOWN/Cowherd Flip-Flopping on Bo Nix · The Appetizer Hour with Brett Kane

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  Speaker 2: So you could be a really good team and have
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  Speaker 2: a really bad week one. The Patriots, the Chargers, the Rams,
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  Speaker 2: and the Broncos. The difference is Stafford, Herbert, and Drake
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  Speaker 2: May are seen differently. as minted guys. Bo Nix for
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  Speaker 2: Denver is still in that, do we make him the
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  Speaker 2: future phase of his contract? Right now, you can't. But Colin,
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  Speaker 2: you love Bo Nix. Yeah, and Sean McVay loved Jared Goff.
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  Speaker 2: And then he didn't.
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  Speaker 3: And C.J.
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  Speaker 2: Stroud was the savior with the Texans. And then he wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: And your boss thought you were a rock star in sales.
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  Speaker 2: Then you got distracted. A year later.
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  Speaker 2: You're like number four on the vice president potential list.
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  Speaker 2: This is not a legacy position at quarterback. The NFL
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  Speaker 2: is what have you done for me weekly.
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  Speaker 3: That is Colin Cowherd.
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  Speaker 4: I've always said when Colin Cowherd speaks about the Broncos
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  Speaker 4: with Sean Payton as their head coach, you should listen
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  Speaker 4: because it's usually going to be a very informed take
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  Speaker 4: based off of information that he was given by his friend.
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  Speaker 4: His friend being Sean Payton. I know they talk. I
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  Speaker 4: know that Sean Payton and him have a long history
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  Speaker 4: of a friendship that blossomed even more when Sean Payton
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  Speaker 4: started to work for Fox and started jumping on his
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  Speaker 4: show and blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 3: Um, here's the situation though.
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  Speaker 4: And I, I feel like there is a, there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot to the conversation surrounding Bo that feels very weird.
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  Speaker 3: And let's just hear a little bit more from Colin here.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Nelly.
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  Speaker 2: Not lately, weekly Bo Nix last year, won 14 games.
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  Speaker 2: His passer rating was 88. To give you some perspective
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  Speaker 2: on that, the average passer rating last 21 years of
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks that win 14 games is 105. So of the
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  Speaker 2: last 17 quarterbacks to win 14 games plus, Bo Nix
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  Speaker 2: has the lowest passer rating. And that's where Sean Payton,
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Waddell had one catch for two yards. This is
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  Speaker 2: a stacked roster at tight end, at receiver, at back,
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  Speaker 2: The head coach, you're supposed to have some hot shot
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  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator whiz. But Colin, you liked him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and now I don't. It's not good.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Jaden Daniels, after his rookie year, was going
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  Speaker 2: to be Andrew Luck.
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  Speaker 4: So pause here a second. But Colin, you liked him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and now I don't. You know what that's based on?
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  Speaker 1: A game.
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  Speaker 3: One game.
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  Speaker 4: And this is the problem that I have. We do
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  Speaker 4: this so often with quarterbacks. Was the performance of Bo
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  Speaker 4: Nix pretty miserable in the opener?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. Does it give me somewhat concern?
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm concerned.
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  Speaker 4: Does it change my entire perspective on what I think
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  Speaker 4: about him as a quarterback?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: And these are like the waves and the highs and.
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  Speaker 4: Lows that people ride when it comes to quarterbacks and
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  Speaker 4: week to week.
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  Speaker 3: This guy's good. No, this guy stinks.
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  Speaker 4: You can't have a full perspective change.
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  Speaker 3: Based off of a single game. Cause here's the deal.
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  Speaker 4: If I asked Colin three days ago, do you think
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  Speaker 4: Bo Nix is good? He'd be like, of course he
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  Speaker 4: got his team to the AFC championship game.
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  Speaker 3: And if he didn't break his ankle, he probably would
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  Speaker 3: have played in a Superbowl.
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  Speaker 4: But because he played bad in week one, now all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden we need to worry about is Sean
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  Speaker 4: Payton and Bo Nix, is their relationship going to fizzle?
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  Speaker 4: Win more games, Cub Scout. Is Bo Nix trustworthy? And look,
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  Speaker 4: it was bad. It was really bad. And everything that
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  Speaker 4: he said about quarterback rating compared to wins is all true.
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  Speaker 4: It's part of the reason why I've been telling you
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  Speaker 4: I have been putting Bo Nix in the category of,
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  Speaker 4: I think, a Jalen Hurts and Brock Purdy in the
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  Speaker 4: sense that their teams win a ton of games. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know how to divvy up the pie chart on
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  Speaker 4: who's got the most responsibility for it.
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  Speaker 3: Is it the quarterback? Is it the team that surrounds
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  Speaker 3: the quarterback?
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  Speaker 4: Is it the defense? I don't know how to do that.
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  Speaker 4: And so I'm still evaluating. But I've seen, not just
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  Speaker 4: Colin Cowherd, a bunch of people now start to take
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  Speaker 4: their shots at Bo Nix, and I go, it's convenient
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  Speaker 4: now because you had a bad game in which the
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  Speaker 4: Broncos got their butts kicked. But this is the exact
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  Speaker 4: problem that I have with everybody's evaluations of QBs being
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  Speaker 4: centered around.
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  Speaker 3: Wins, is that, yes, the wins.
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  Speaker 4: are an important thing for a quarterback to do, the
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  Speaker 4: most important stat.
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  Speaker 3: But you have to evaluate how you get there.
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  Speaker 4: If we evaluated starting pitchers in the MLB by just
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  Speaker 4: wins and losses, wouldn't that be silly? Because what happens
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  Speaker 4: if you have Paul Skeens playing for Pittsburgh? Well, I
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  Speaker 4: know he has a 2-1 ERA this year with 200 strikeouts.
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  Speaker 4: But as you see, he's like six and 13. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not saying that's what his record is now. Just an example.
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  Speaker 4: It's not an accurate way to point to real data.
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  Speaker 3: It's not.
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  Speaker 4: And by the way, Bo Nix's game on Monday night
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  Speaker 4: is totally on par with every game in the first
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  Speaker 4: week of the season he's had through three years. He
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  Speaker 4: has had multiple turnovers. The offense has looked awful. And
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  Speaker 4: in two out of three years, they lost their opening game.
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  Speaker 4: Probably would have last year had they not played a
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  Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans team who was first of all terrible and
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  Speaker 4: second of all starting a rookie in his first game ever,
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  Speaker 4: Cam Ward. You guys remember that game last year too, right?
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  Speaker 4: You won 20-12. Close late. Offense looked bad.
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  Speaker 3: This is.
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  Speaker 4: On par with every opening week that he's had. And
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  Speaker 4: that's why, again, it's totally fair to be disappointed and
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  Speaker 4: even pissed at the way that Bo Nix played in.
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  Speaker 3: The first week.
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  Speaker 4: But what's especially odd about him is no matter what
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  Speaker 4: the last, and when I say the latest thing, I
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  Speaker 4: mean the actual latest thing. Whatever happens there is people's evaluations.
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  Speaker 4: And in the sense, Nelly, back me up. Let the
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  Speaker 4: people know if I'm lying on this. I always say,
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  Speaker 4: if I do one thing to you guys, I'm always
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  Speaker 4: going to shoot you straight and tell you exactly how
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  Speaker 4: I feel.
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  Speaker 3: Was I not being honest?
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  Speaker 4: Constantly bombarded with texts last year when I'd come to
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  Speaker 4: the mic on a Monday and say, yeah, the Broncos won,
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  Speaker 4: but what they did on offense and what Bo Nix
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  Speaker 4: did as a quarterback is not a sustainable thing. And
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  Speaker 4: it shows there's some very, very real cracks and chinks
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  Speaker 4: in the armor in that, yeah, you came back from
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  Speaker 4: down 19, nothing in the fourth quarter because Bo Nix
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  Speaker 4: played great in the fourth quarter, but The first three
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  Speaker 4: are not good enough against good teams in this league.
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  Speaker 3: And everybody's ripping on me saying, how can you complain
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  Speaker 3: about the offense? They got the win.
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  Speaker 4: And now I feel like I got to do the
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  Speaker 4: opposite thing of, that's exactly what we saw last year,
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  Speaker 4: except you didn't have the miraculous comeback.
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  Speaker 3: In the fourth.
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  Speaker 1: Chop back, do it to the other team.
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  Speaker 4: And I feel like I got the same people yelling
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  Speaker 4: at me about, you're being way too fair to him, Brett.
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  Speaker 3: He stinks. He's terrible.
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  Speaker 4: Were the same people telling me that I can't say,
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  Speaker 4: not that I ever said that he stinks last year,
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  Speaker 4: but same people telling me last year, I'm being too
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  Speaker 4: hard on them because they won the game.
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  Speaker 3: And this is, again, it's one of my.
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  Speaker 4: Biggest frustrations in the sport is there's two things. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like the way that we talk about basketball as
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  Speaker 4: just a society is really stupid.
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  Speaker 3: It's really dumb.
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  Speaker 4: Basketball is all about individual statistics and after the individual
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  Speaker 4: statistics comes to, oh yeah, well how many rings has
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  Speaker 4: he got? Like that's not how you evaluate who's a
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  Speaker 4: good player and who's not.
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  Speaker 3: It's not how that works.
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  Speaker 4: If Michael Jordan never won a single championship ring, he
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  Speaker 4: would still be a remarkable player. And the way that
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  Speaker 4: we talk about football, but specifically the quarterback position, is
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  Speaker 4: really stupid.
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  Speaker 3: We just base it off of winning. That's it. Justin
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  Speaker 3: Herbert stinks. He's overrated. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen him play. It doesn't
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  Speaker 4: look great all the time. You know, how many people
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  Speaker 4: thought Matthew Stafford was a bum in Detroit?
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  Speaker 3: In the first year, he.
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  Speaker 4: Goes to a decent organization in the Rams.
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  Speaker 3: Wins a Super Bowl. And now, I'll tell you what,
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  Speaker 3: I think Matthew Stafford's a Hall of Famer. Look at
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  Speaker 3: his numbers. He's got a Super Bowl. Like, that's how
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  Speaker 3: quickly you're going to change? I got an idea. Watch
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  Speaker 3: the guy play. And I've watched a lot of Bo Nicks.
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  Speaker 4: Here's what I'll tell you. Do I think that he
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  Speaker 4: is the peak of football? Do I think that he
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  Speaker 4: is going to be in a tier of your Josh
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  Speaker 4: Allens of the world?
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  Speaker 3: Probably not.
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  Speaker 4: Do I think Bo Nix can be a good enough
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  Speaker 4: quarterback with this roster to win you a Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And not only do I say that by watching that
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't turn the ball over a lot, he's typically
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  Speaker 4: great at avoiding pressure. Both of those things were not
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  Speaker 4: on the table on Monday night, but that would be
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  Speaker 4: what we call an outlier. And thirdly, he's clutch when
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  Speaker 4: you need him to be. Pretty good recipe for a
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  Speaker 4: team with a really good defense. All of these things
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  Speaker 4: can be true. If you're looking for Bo Nix to
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  Speaker 4: be the next John Elway or Peyton Manning, I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to be honest. I don't think he's that. But I
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  Speaker 4: think he's good enough to win. I think he's good enough.
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  Speaker 4: As long as you do the right things around him.
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  Speaker 4: And especially right now, guess what? Bo Nix doesn't need
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  Speaker 4: to have a $ 60 million a year contract in front
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  Speaker 4: of him right now.
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  Speaker 3: That's what this year's for.
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  Speaker 4: Do I think right now him making a few million
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  Speaker 4: dollars and having the rest of that money to spread
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  Speaker 4: around a roster around him is good enough? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: do think so, despite what happened in week one. And
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  Speaker 4: not to sit here and toot my own horn, I
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  Speaker 4: rarely do that because nobody cares if the radio host
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  Speaker 4: was right about some take that they had. But I
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  Speaker 4: went back and looked at a bit of information here.
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  Speaker 4: So this is week one defense, and it measures average
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  Speaker 4: time to pressure in the pass game. And it also
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  Speaker 4: measures running back yards before contact per rush. Do you
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  Speaker 4: know where the Broncos fell in both of those categories combined?
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  Speaker 4: the best in the NFL last week. And what I
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  Speaker 4: told you was the Broncos weren't getting bullied by like
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  Speaker 4: the Chiefs offensive line. They couldn't tackle somebody. And I'm
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  Speaker 4: not saying that's any better. In fact, that's worse. But
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  Speaker 4: I say that to tell you tackling is far more
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  Speaker 4: correctable than being physically dominated. Point is, I think both
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  Speaker 4: Bo Nix and the defense are going to be fine
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  Speaker 4: as the year goes on.
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  Speaker 3: The issue is you.
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  Speaker 4: Don't have time to ramp up this year. If you
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  Speaker 4: play remotely like you did on Monday, you're going to
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  Speaker 4: get kicked every week for the first six weeks. This
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  Speaker 4: is what happens when you win. You get the tougher schedule.
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  Speaker 4: So we'll talk about this more as we go along. 303. 504-0925,
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  Speaker 4: everything pushed back a week, so we get to college football,
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  Speaker 4: stock up, stock down next. We do it every week
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  Speaker 4: following the college football weekend. It is college football, stock up,
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  Speaker 4: stock down. We always start with the quarterbacks. Nelly, stock up.
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  Speaker 4: How about Rocco Beck, that of Penn State? So quarterback
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  Speaker 4: at Iowa State for years, and I always thought to myself,
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  Speaker 4: he's sort of this big, lanky, awkward-looking quarterback that, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. It always felt to me, your typical quarterback
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  Speaker 4: at one of the Iowa schools, run the football a
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  Speaker 4: little bit, be good, not great. Yeah, he'll lead the
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  Speaker 4: team to some wins, maybe not take him over the top.
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  Speaker 4: So he follows Matt Campbell over to Penn State. And
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  Speaker 4: since doing that, they've played two teams that are both
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  Speaker 4: not great, given. It's Marshall and Temple.
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  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 4: In those two games, he's already amassed seven touchdown passes
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  Speaker 4: and no interceptions, and this might be a classic example
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  Speaker 4: of a good coach at what I'll call a college mid-major,
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  Speaker 4: which is good team, dangerous, but never felt like they
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  Speaker 4: could get to the top in Iowa State. You follow
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  Speaker 4: Matt Campbell over that way, you have more resources at
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  Speaker 4: your disposal.
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  Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden... You know what? The
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  Speaker 3: numbers take a big jump.
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  Speaker 4: It's the equivalent of a player in free agency who's
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  Speaker 4: pretty good signing with Jokic and then getting a fat
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  Speaker 4: contract afterwards.
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  Speaker 3: I think that Becht can be one of those guys.
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  Speaker 4: The real question is always going to be, how do
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  Speaker 4: you handle the top end of Big Ten competition? How
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  Speaker 4: do you go out and play against teams like that?
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  Speaker 4: And Penn State this year has a pretty easy go
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  Speaker 4: of it in the Big Ten. Like, they're going to
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  Speaker 4: be in good shape. Their Big Ten opponents, they're big
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  Speaker 4: ones that are on their schedule. Teams that are currently ranked,
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  Speaker 4: USC and Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: That's it. They avoid Ohio State.
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  Speaker 4: They avoid some of the better teams that the Big
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  Speaker 4: Ten has to offer. But I think they got a
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  Speaker 4: good shot to surprise some people, and I think Rocco
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  Speaker 4: Beck is another one, so he's going to get the
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  Speaker 4: stock up. Let's go quarterback stock down. I think it's
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  Speaker 4: got to be Dante Moore. I mean, you go out,
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  Speaker 4: you play Oklahoma State. Again, a team that hasn't won
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  Speaker 4: a game in... They lost 12 straight going into it,
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  Speaker 4: including their opener against.
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  Speaker 3: Was it Tulane, Temple, Tulsa? Tulsa.
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  Speaker 4: I knew it started with a T. They lost 12 straight.
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  Speaker 4: You play against Oklahoma State. You had sort of a
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  Speaker 4: clunker of a first week.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 3: You lose 39-31.
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  Speaker 4: So, yes, you put up some points, but Dante Moore
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  Speaker 4: was 14 of 29 throwing the football, less than 50% completion.
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  Speaker 4: He had only 191 passing yards, two touchdowns, no picks,
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  Speaker 4: sacked a whole bunch. It was a season in which
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  Speaker 4: Dante Moore was coming back after being potentially drafted in
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  Speaker 4: the top 10 last year. He comes back to college
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  Speaker 4: for one more season, maybe to be the guy coming
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  Speaker 4: out in the draft if he has another big year.
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  Speaker 3: In two straight weeks, Oregon looks pretty miserable.
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  Speaker 4: And you have a game like that that sort of
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  Speaker 4: sets the table for your Big Ten competition coming up
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  Speaker 4: here in a couple weeks. It's a really bad look,
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  Speaker 4: and I think Dante Moore is still really talented and
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  Speaker 4: can do a whole bunch of great things, but it's
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  Speaker 4: a horrible start for him. He gets quarterback stocked down.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go Big 12 teams.
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  Speaker 3: Stock up. The Big 12.
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  Speaker 4: Now, you have some weeks where it feels like I'm
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  Speaker 4: just going to be repeating myself.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to try my best not to do that.
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  Speaker 4: I think this would have to be the team we're
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  Speaker 4: just talking about in Oklahoma State. although they've lost 12
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  Speaker 4: straight going into that, including their first week's game against Tulsa.
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  Speaker 4: I want to throw another team on here. We mentioned
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  Speaker 4: this yesterday. Do yourself a favor if you haven't yet.
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  Speaker 4: Go turn on some Utah football on a Saturday because
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  Speaker 4: that's fun to watch. Utah goes out. They beat Arkansas 43-10.
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  Speaker 3: Now I think.
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  Speaker 4: Arkansas is a great football team. But if you look
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  Speaker 4: at the way that they set up, you wonder. Kyle Whittingham,
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  Speaker 4: there forever. He leaves, takes the job at Michigan. How
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  Speaker 4: are they going to respond to losing a big-time head coach? Well,
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  Speaker 4: Morgan Scali takes over, who's been there forever, longtime trusted assistant.
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  Speaker 4: And it looks like that place hasn't skipped a beat.
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  Speaker 4: But what they do that's super fun is they run
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  Speaker 4: a two-quarterback system. And not like, Sometimes this quarterback plays
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  Speaker 4: and sometimes the other quarterback plays.
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  Speaker 3: They're on the field at the same time. They're running
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  Speaker 3: options to each other.
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  Speaker 4: They run a throwback where the other quarterback chucks one
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  Speaker 4: downfield and they.
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  Speaker 3: Both have howitzers of arms.
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  Speaker 4: It is incredibly fun to see. So if you haven't yet,
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  Speaker 4: do yourself a favor and check out Utah. And by
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  Speaker 4: the way, why do they get the stock up? Because
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  Speaker 4: they had this big 33-point win over an SEC team
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  Speaker 4: in Arkansas, number one.
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  Speaker 3: Number two, because it's Utah.
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  Speaker 4: And they're always going to be vying for conference championships
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  Speaker 4: and near the top. They just play a really physical
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  Speaker 4: brand of football that translates every week.
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  Speaker 3: So they get the stock up. Let's go Big 12
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  Speaker 3: teams stock down. It's the Big 12!
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to be honest with you guys. Do you
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  Speaker 4: know who gets the stock down from the Big 12
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  Speaker 4: this week for me?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody.
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  Speaker 4: I think the Big 12 had a really good week
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  Speaker 4: outside of UCF. UCF played against Pittsburgh. They only put
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: up seven points. They put up those seven points in
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. They lost 12-7. Even then, though, defense
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: holding a team to 12 points is something to be
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: proud of. If I had to pick one, it's going
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: to be UCF. But look around the Big 12 last week.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Baylor played, now, not great competition for a lot of
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: these teams, but Baylor won 44-3 over Prairie A & M. TCU,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: 63-7 over Grambling. Cincinnati, 62-10 over Western Carolina. Colorado, 52-21
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: over Weber State. West Virginia kicked the crap out of
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: UT Martin. Kansas State beat the snot out of Wazoo.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Houston put up 77 points. Iowa State hung in tough
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: against a good Iowa team. They lost 16-13, but winning
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: in Iowa is really difficult to do. They don't allow
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: you to score. So you go up and down the
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: list from last week, There's really not a bad game.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Even Kansas, who lost on Friday against Missouri. Missouri's a
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: good football team. They were right in it till the
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: very end. Just couldn't put up anything in the fourth quarter.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I think the Big 12, for the most part, was
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: really impressive last weekend. National teams stock up. So this
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: one I'm going to throw to Texas. And the reason why,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: first of all, it's a big game. But to be
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: down to Ohio State like they were by 20 points
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: heading into the fourth quarter and to rattle off that
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: kind of comeback is such a confidence booster for that team.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Arch Manning, who was up and down last year, it
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: feels like still trying to find some sort of real footing.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Remember, this is his fourth year at Texas.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: He started playing consistently last year, was better as the
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: season went on. In the game against Ohio State, that's
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: how he's going to be judged as a potential pro
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: quarterback and everything else. To be down 20, going into
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: the fourth, and to put up 21 straight points is
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: a remarkable feat. And I think Texas, that's something they
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: can hang on to moving forward. With that win, it
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: bumped them to number one in the country in the
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: AP poll, which it should. And from here on out,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: they have a really, really tough schedule moving forward.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: But proving that you can.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Win against Ohio State and do so with your backs
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: against the wall, really, really impressive. They get the stock up.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Let's go national team stock down. Again, I don't want
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: to be a guy who repeats himself the whole day. Obviously,
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: the answer to this is Oregon.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Oregon.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I would also put in this category, and the reason
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: why I can't do it with my full chest yet,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: is I'm not sure what either one of these teams
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: truly are.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: It's Oklahoma.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Oklahoma plays Michigan in the big house, who's reeling off
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: of a loss. A loss in our minds to Western Michigan. Michigan,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: bad quarterback play that continued into this week. But Oklahoma
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: couldn't get anything going, and here's why I struggle. I
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: feel like Michigan's defense is incredibly good.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Incredibly.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: They just don't have a quarterback nor offense that is
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: going to make them a serious enough contender in college football. Like,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: do I hold the great defense of Michigan... against No.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: 11 Oklahoma, who lost to an unranked team. I think
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: you have to a little bit that you couldn't just
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: find a couple of plays or a few ways to
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: get over a low-scoring game. But still, I'm confused at
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: what Michigan's truly going to be here. Great defenses can
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: carry you a long ways in college football. Iowa has
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: made the Kirk Ferentz era of that, which is three
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: decades' worth, their entire MO, and been a team that
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: nobody really wants to play. So obviously the answer to
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: this is Oregon, but to throw another flavor in here,
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: I suppose we could go Oklahoma.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Heisman stock up.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: In a loss, I'm going to give it to this guy.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: He has openly been campaigning. I want this. This is
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: something I'm striving to get. It's my last year in
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: college before I'm going to be a bona fide top
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: three pick in the draft.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: It's Jeremiah Smith.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Watching that guy play football, he looks a little bit
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: to me like Julio Jones-ish. Big, big dude, 6'4, got
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: the arms, got the muscle. Can outbody you, can high
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: point a football, incredible hands. It's his second straight game
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: where he's had virtually identical numbers. First week against Ball State,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: this one against Texas. This week, eight catches, 164 yards,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: and a touchdown. He's already had three touchdowns on the year,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: 16 catches, 315 yards. He averages 20 yards per catch.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Dude is an absolute freak. And when somebody says out loud,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I want this, I think in college football, that matters,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: especially for a guy who's not at the position of quarterback.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: And if there's any school that will produce a Heisman
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Trophy winner at wide receiver, it will be Ohio State.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: They just did it recently with Devontae Smith. So if
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: your name is Smith... And you play wide receiver for
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Ohio State. Congratulations. You're in the Heisman discussion. Heisman stock down.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I think Dante Moore might have taken himself out entirely.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Bad first week against Boise State. Lost to Oklahoma State.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Those things are hard to overcome, especially if teams continue
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: to win and guys continue to play well. There's a
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: lot of names in the mix right now for the Heisman,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: but I don't think there's any question the guy who
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: did the most damage to that over this week was
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Dante Moore. So he gets the Heisman stock down.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Let's go. Best game of the week. Oh, my God.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I know everybody's going to point at Ohio State and
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Texas and say that was the best game of the week.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: And I know exciting finishes are always something that is
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: going to capture a huge amount of your attention. But
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: it was really like an exciting fourth quarter. Ohio State
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: had that game in hand pretty much the entire way.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: The game that was truly, I think, the most entertaining
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: of the weekend is the same game that's the upset
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: of the week, and that's Oregon-Oklahoma State. 31-39, back and forth,
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Oklahoma State with this big lead, and then Oregon creeps their.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Way back into it. You're like, all right, well, that's it, right?
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Oregon retakes the lead. This thing's over. And Oklahoma State
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: kept battling back.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: That quarterback for the Cowboys, Drew Messmaker, His play where
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: he leaped into the end.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Zone, sort of helicoptered his way in, it was.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: The play of the weekend in college football. And I
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: think we have a rare case of double dips, so
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: hit me with the upset of the week sound. No!
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: God, please, no!
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: I think they're the same game. They're all in one.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: It was an upset of the week, and it was
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: the best game of the weekend.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: And I'm not... sure what's even a close second. Can
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I really say that.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: The upset of the week is Michigan over Oklahoma? Doesn't
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: feel like it. You didn't really have any other options either.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: You had close games. You had games that were tight,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: but maybe low scoring. I think that takes the cake
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: for both.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: So there you go.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Every week following the college football weekend, it is college football.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Stock up, stock down.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: And by the way, text line caught it. I think
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: you got your wires crossed a little bit. The Slim
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Reaper never played for Ohio State.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. That's right. He's a Bama kid.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: You know who you were thinking of?
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Jackson Smith, the good juba. Jackson Smith, yes. He didn't
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: win a Heisman. But I don't know what happened there.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Why was I thinking Devontae?
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: You know, it's just, it's common practice. Devontae Smith, who
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: went to Alabama, um, Jamison Williams was the guy who
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: started at Ohio state and finished at Alabama, who was
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: also high in draft pick. It's really, if you're looking
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: for wide receiver, you in college. So my apologies, mess
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: that one up. Don't know why I got my wires crossed.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: You were also thinking of a Mika, a big boom Mika.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: A big old go through the line, Ohio state, Chris Olave.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can go through it. What I was
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: going to say was Ohio state, is wide receiver you
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: in college football. LSU had a chance to take that
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: crown and I think still has a good argument with
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. Bama's had a few of
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: them roll through there too now. I think most recently,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's any question it's Ohio State. Didn't
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Ohio State have like four guys get an extension this
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: offseason for massive numbers in the NFL just at that position?
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: College football stock up, stock down. Do it every week
• 29:35
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• 29:40
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• 29:42
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• 29:44
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• 29:47
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• 29:48
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• 29:52
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• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Get back to the NFL and the Broncos here in
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: a bit. Played you the audio from Cowherd. I've already
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: gone on my college, or I'm sorry, my quarterback waffling
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: rollercoaster up and down.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I'm in on this guy. I'm off on this guy.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: And how quickly that happens at the NFL level. It's
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: a huge example of it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Here's another one.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: In talking about Bo Nix, I told you that first
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: week from Bo looks like every week, week one that
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Bo has had since he's been in the NFL. Every
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: week one has been a big time struggle. I got
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: a stat that'll make you feel better about something else
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: that happened on Sunday movie, or I'm sorry, Monday night
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: moving forward.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: We'll get to it next.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton is not a 42 year old firecracker been around.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Doesn't want to coach forever. OK, I look at this
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: thing right now and I'm telling you, Bo Nix in trouble.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: I'd be really curious to see what Colin Cowherd said
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: after the divisional round of the playoffs.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Be very curious.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Brett, you remember how you said that this offseason was
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: going to kill Nuggets fans and Yeah. I think this
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: regular season is going to kill Broncos fans because one
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: game happened and now everybody's acting like the Broncos are
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Cinderella last year. That was because they made their Cinderella
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: run to the AFC championship this year. Cause everybody thinks
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: they're going to turn back into a pumpkin. Like this, the,
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: after one game, the narrative around this team already makes
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: me want to drive my car off of Loveland pass.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: And we're one game into the season.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Um, You know what's funny about this, though, is when
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: you get used to winning, you have.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Hang on, Nellie. I'm doing this on the fly.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: All I did was I typed The Herd on Twitter
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: and Nick's. And I'm going to send you just a
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: couple of clips. And I want the time stamps on these.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Because this is how quickly things go through it. And
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: it's why I said I think this is like the
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: dumbest thing that we do.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Is we evaluate quarterbacks.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: In....
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Forget week to week. We evaluate quarterbacks... almost quarter to quarter.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: And there's something else I want to get to in
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: a moment, but I will just, while we're on the subject,
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: if you are going to jump week to week and
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: ride that roller coaster and have that be the evaluation
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: of the Broncos, you're in for some trouble. Last year,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: it was easy. Last year, you won, what was it,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: 11 straight games in the middle of the year? I mean,
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: you started the year one and two, and then you
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: rattled off wins all the way until the Jacksonville game.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: And then you rattled off wins all the way until
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: the AFC championship game in which Bo Nix got hurt.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: And when he got hurt, it was a much more
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: understandable level of a loss. But to pretend that your
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: mind is totally changed based off of one performance the
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: first week of the year in which, again, every single
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: week one for Bo Nix has been awful. And I
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: guess I said this, I'll read them to you. This
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: is every week one for Bo Nix. Monday night, he
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: was 17 of 28 for 131 yards, one touchdown, one pick,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: four sacks. Last year against Tennessee, he was 25 of
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: 40 for 176 yards, one touchdown, two picks, one sack.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Also a miserable game.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: But he came in a win against a bad team.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: And then his rookie year, he was 26 of 42
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: for 138 yards, no touchdowns, two picks, two sacks.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: This is just him in week one.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: And I don't know how many times I've told you guys,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: it's not just Bo Nix, it's Sean Payton's Broncos in
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: general start the year slow. I think I heard DMACC
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: yesterday talking about Sean Payton's record in September is 31
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: and 31. In October, it's like 50 and 17 or
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: something like that. They just start slow. It's not acceptable.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: It's not something you want, but it's a reality. And
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: so literally all I did is I typed in the
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: herd and Knicks, and this was the first clip that
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: came up.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: And for context, he's talking about Lamar Jackson and your
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: favorite word that starts with an L, that legacy word.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's hurt a lot now. And secondly, he's only
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: had five of those kind of games in the last
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: four seasons. He's not a great come from behind quarterback.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, when everybody in the arena knows he has
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: to throw, is great. Lamar Jackson, when everybody in the
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: stadium knows he's got to throw, does not deliver. That's
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: who he is. I'm selling my stock. I'd take Bo
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Nix today in a fourth quarter come from behind situation.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Bo Nix over Lamar Jackson. Pause.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: What's the date on that, Nelly?
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: That is July 14th in the year of our Lord, 2026.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Two months. Two months. Two months and one football game,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: by the way, for each guy.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Two months, one football game for each guy.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I'm out on Bo Nix. He stinks. Has to be
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: a change. And I bet you what he said. I
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: didn't listen.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: I bet you what he said about Lamar is, ooh,
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: look out, Lamar's back. I bet you the Ravens are
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: going to do something this year. I mean, it's just
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: what this is. Texture says they just start slow. Talk
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: like that is what enables the slow starts.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: I'm giving you reality. I never said that's okay.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: I think I said in the first segment, if you
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: start slow this year, you're going to put yourself so
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: far behind the eight ball that you're.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Going to be in trouble.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: What I'm trying to relay is this isn't different than
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: what it was before.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: It's the same.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: And so when guys like Cowherd say there's a problem
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: now in Denver, I'm like, it's the same thing you've
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: seen for three years. I'll remind you, I was the
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: guy last year when they were on the winning streak.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: in the middle of the winning streak, that jumped on
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: this mic on Mondays and said, I don't like that game.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: You won great. I don't like it.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: I think that'll get you into trouble. And everybody was
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: telling me, what are you complaining about?
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: It's a win. I go, well, for now.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: But What you've seen from Bo Nix, you have a
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: wealth of evidence. Games like this aren't out of the
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: question for him.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: We know this.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: It's more the fact that people seem to be surprised
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: by that performance.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: You can be angry by it. That's fair. You can
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: be disappointed. You can be pissed. To be surprised would
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: be dumb. It's something you've seen over and over again.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: The other thing I wanted to give you, this is
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: something else that I said yesterday that I do think
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: is an important detail. I watched people all day yesterday
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: talk about, oh, well, the Broncos defensive line, you want
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: to see where they really miss somebody. They miss John
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Franklin Myers. They got bullied by the Chiefs. They did
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: not get bullied. And I said I had to go
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: back and watch some things from yesterday because I have
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: to figure out if my eyes were lying to me
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: on the first watch.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: You know, the other.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Shows might have the benefit of like, I'm going to
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: wake up in the morning, drink some coffee and rewatch
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: And then I'll give you this and this and this.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: I don't have that benefit.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: I wake up at 445 in the morning. With a
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: sick child, it's earlier than that. So I went back
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: and watched yesterday after the show. I was like, were
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: my eyes lying to me? It did not feel like
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: the Broncos defensive line was being pushed five yards down
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: the field. And then Kenneth Walker had wherever he wanted
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: to run, he could run. So I have the data
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: to back this up. There is a x-axis and y-axis
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: on these charts. It's average time to pressure, which talks
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: about your pass rush, and it's running back yards before
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: contact per rush. And they listed every team in the league.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: Do you know who was the strongest if you take
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: both of those stats combined? The Denver Broncos. They got
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: to the passer in an average of 2.5 seconds, which was.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Top 10 in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: Running back yards before contact was less than a yard per.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what that means.
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  Speaker 4: Your defensive line won or equaled the battle up front.
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  Speaker 4: You made contact with the running back at or near
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  Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage and you didn't tackle. And let
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  Speaker 4: me tell you, not tackling is a much more correctable
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  Speaker 4: thing than being bullied. If you're being bullied, that means
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  Speaker 4: you're not strong enough or you're not aggressive enough or
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  Speaker 4: you're not tough enough or one of those things. That's
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  Speaker 4: hard to fix. That's an innate part of you as
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  Speaker 4: a human. Not tackling is fundamentals. It's wrapping up. And
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  Speaker 4: that can get fixed like that.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the good news. It doesn't make you feel
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  Speaker 3: any better.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't make the sting or the embarrassment of that
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  Speaker 4: first week go away. But if there's a narrative out
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  Speaker 4: there that the Broncos defense isn't good anymore, false. False.
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  Speaker 4: So there are still things. Bo Nix will get better
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  Speaker 4: than last week. The tackling will be better than last week.
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  Speaker 4: You will still be a good football team. But if
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  Speaker 4: you don't get that figured out in a hurry, then
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  Speaker 4: that becomes a much different issue. That becomes, now we've
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  Speaker 4: dug a hole so deep, I don't know if we
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  Speaker 4: can climb our way out.
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  Speaker 4: talk about with bone Knicks today. I'm going to try
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  Speaker 4: move forward.
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  Speaker 3: Um, There is a lot from week one that I
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: think lied to you.
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  Speaker 4: And I think there's a lot from week one that
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  Speaker 4: was showing you some holes that you have on this team.
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