Latest / WIXN AM 1460 - Shaw Local Radio / Talk Line 09-11-2026: Dallas Knack talks Sauk Valley Area Chamber of Commerce events
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey there, waking crew. Welcome back on FM 95, 1 a.m.,
- 0:03Speaker 1: 1460 WIXN. It's 8.15, no, just flipping over to 16
- 0:08Speaker 1: on your Friday, September 11th morning, and it's time for
- 0:12Speaker 1: your first dose of TalkLine. Dallas Knack joining us from
- 0:15Speaker 1: the Sauk Valley Area Chamber of Commerce. How are you today?
- 0:18Speaker 2: I'm great. How are you?
- 0:20Speaker 1: I'm fantastic. It's always temperature control in here. Thankfully, it's
- 0:26Speaker 1: been a lot cooler today, looking kind of beautiful. My
- 0:28Speaker 1: wife getting to take advantage of the townwide garage sales today.
- 0:33Speaker 1: I'm jealous of that, honey. Find me something cool.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Fingers crossed she's got you.
- 0:37Speaker 1: She usually does. And you guys over at the Chamber
- 0:42Speaker 1: have us covered with everything from events to networking to
- 0:46Speaker 1: just improvement. And I love getting this message out because...
- 0:50Speaker 1: especially with what we're starting off with in the younger group,
- 0:54Speaker 1: getting them started early. Can't preach that enough. I tell
- 0:57Speaker 1: that with my oldest son. So, Kai, if you're listening
- 1:00Speaker 1: this morning while you're working, bud, mark this one on
- 1:02Speaker 1: your calendar. Dallas, take it away.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Yeah, on Tuesday, September 22nd, we're actually doing a Lunch
- 1:08Speaker 2: and Learn at Sauk Valley Community College. So, Dr. John Mandrell,
- 1:11Speaker 2: the new president of Sauk Valley Community College, He will
- 1:15Speaker 2: be doing a presentation for us on building your personal brand.
- 1:18Speaker 2: So he's going to talk a lot about LinkedIn and
- 1:22Speaker 2: how to brand yourself in the workplace and with your career.
- 1:26Speaker 2: And then we're going to follow that up with a
- 1:27Speaker 2: panel of three local professionals that are going to talk
- 1:30Speaker 2: about networking, both in person and online. So this is
- 1:33Speaker 2: going to be a really great opportunity, especially for our
- 1:36Speaker 2: Sauk Valley under 40, that kind of age range to
- 1:39Speaker 2: work on branding themselves and getting themselves out there.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a fantastic thing. And if you're wondering, well,
- 1:45Speaker 1: I know how to set up a LinkedIn profile, Brandon,
- 1:47Speaker 1: and put a picture. If you've never really had somebody
- 1:49Speaker 1: talk to you about the ways you can really utilize LinkedIn,
- 1:54Speaker 1: the different things, the do's and the don'ts, and then
- 1:57Speaker 1: really getting into branding that is so important as part
- 2:00Speaker 1: of networking because it's really it's that first snapshot into
- 2:05Speaker 1: who you are to somebody, right? Um, they, they say
- 2:08Speaker 1: make a great first impression and you only get one
- 2:11Speaker 1: time to make a first impression. Uh, and if that
- 2:14Speaker 1: first impression happens to be with a potential employer, somebody
- 2:17Speaker 1: you want to speak with through LinkedIn, uh, or otherwise
- 2:20Speaker 1: you want to make sure you're doing it right.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Yeah. And you don't know, like maybe you don't need
- 2:24Speaker 2: a LinkedIn right now. You're like, I'm good. I'm set. Well,
- 2:28Speaker 2: you never know what's going to happen. You never know
- 2:30Speaker 2: if you're going to want to make a change. If
- 2:31Speaker 2: you need to make a change in your career. So
- 2:33Speaker 2: it's good to just have that stuff set up and
- 2:35Speaker 2: ready to go for whenever you need to use it.
- 2:37Speaker 2: And you don't know why you might need to use
- 2:39Speaker 2: it either. Maybe you're looking at just getting involved somewhere.
- 2:42Speaker 2: You want a seat on a board. Sometimes having that
- 2:45Speaker 2: profile already set up where you can make a connection
- 2:47Speaker 2: with someone, obviously we prefer you to make those connections
- 2:50Speaker 2: in person, but we know that sometimes people just stumble
- 2:53Speaker 2: upon you on LinkedIn. I mean, when I was looking
- 2:56Speaker 2: at doing the panel for this, I was like, oh,
- 2:58Speaker 2: who on my LinkedIn is very active? And I just
- 3:00Speaker 2: scrolled down and we found people, right? We know it's
- 3:02Speaker 2: people that... Obviously, we've vetted and we know that they're
- 3:05Speaker 2: great at these tools and how to brand themselves and
- 3:09Speaker 2: just network both in person and digitally. Like I said,
- 3:12Speaker 2: there's a lot of tools for just even some tips
- 3:16Speaker 2: on how do you get over that awkward stage of
- 3:18Speaker 2: walking into an event where you don't know anyone? How
- 3:22Speaker 2: do you set that purpose of why I want to
- 3:24Speaker 2: go or be strategic about where we're spending our time
- 3:27Speaker 2: and our energy in networking or in getting ourselves out there?
- 3:30Speaker 2: So I'm really excited for the event on the 22nd.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Like I said, it's at Sauk Valley Community College. Lunch
- 3:35Speaker 2: is provided. It's only $ 20 to attend, but you do
- 3:38Speaker 2: need RSVP. You can find all that information on our
- 3:41Speaker 2: website and on the Sauk Valley Under 40 Facebook, LinkedIn,
- 3:46Speaker 2: or Instagram.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure you sign up. Go attend this. And
- 3:50Speaker 1: I'm going to put my last pin on it and
- 3:53Speaker 1: say this. What is so important about networking is once
- 3:56Speaker 1: you learn to do it right and you get to
- 3:59Speaker 1: a certain part in your networking journey, to see people
- 4:03Speaker 1: reaching out to you for jobs, not the other way around,
- 4:07Speaker 1: not going and applying it, but actually having people, employers
- 4:10Speaker 1: reaching out to you to say, hey, we have this,
- 4:13Speaker 1: we'd like to talk to you. That is a fantastic
- 4:15Speaker 1: place to be, and this is how you're going to
- 4:17Speaker 1: start to learn how to do that. That's all I
- 4:19Speaker 1: want to say about that. You're going to be happy
- 4:21Speaker 1: when you get to that part in your career.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And you never know why you're going to
- 4:25Speaker 2: need those contacts or that outreach. And you know what?
- 4:29Speaker 2: Maybe you're comfy in what you're doing right now. You're
- 4:31Speaker 2: living the dream. You've got it all figured out, right?
- 4:34Speaker 1: That I am.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Maybe that's not what happens tomorrow or next week. And
- 4:38Speaker 2: you never know when you're going to have to tap
- 4:39Speaker 2: into that and need that. And it's just a really
- 4:42Speaker 2: good tool to have in your back pocket.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Absolutely. Professional Women's Network is helping once again.
- 4:49Speaker 2: Yeah, another great tool to have in your back pocket,
- 4:52Speaker 2: how to tame your stress.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Oh, I could use two classes on that some days.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Yeah, right? So on September 30th, that's a Wednesday, we're
- 5:02Speaker 2: having a Lunch and Learn at Mexicali Rose in Rock Falls.
- 5:05Speaker 2: Natalie Moeller from Moeller, Meyer & Associates will be joining
- 5:08Speaker 2: us to talk about how to manage your stress. She
- 5:11Speaker 2: is phenomenal. If you haven't had a chance to hear
- 5:14Speaker 2: her speak, it's going to be such a great workshop.
- 5:17Speaker 2: And we're also doing a fun activity during it. We're
- 5:19Speaker 2: going to be writing ourselves letters to our future selves.
- 5:23Speaker 2: So all the participants will write themselves a letter that
- 5:26Speaker 2: the chamber will then mail out to you at a
- 5:28Speaker 2: future date. We're not saying when because we don't want
- 5:30Speaker 2: you to have it marked on the calendar. It might
- 5:32Speaker 2: just be a time where you really need to check
- 5:34Speaker 2: in with yourself first. Maybe it's an inspirational quote you
- 5:36Speaker 2: send yourself. Maybe it's something like, hey, do we ever
- 5:38Speaker 2: get around to doing this? Is it still on our
- 5:41Speaker 2: to-do list? Or do we finally accomplish this? Or maybe
- 5:44Speaker 2: it's just, oh, I really like this little tip that
- 5:46Speaker 2: Natalie said. I want to remind myself of this in
- 5:48Speaker 2: the future.
- 5:49Speaker 1: So.
- 5:50Speaker 2: It's going to be a good way to kind of
- 5:51Speaker 2: check in on yourself, maybe set some goals or just
- 5:53Speaker 2: set a check in with yourself in the future. But
- 5:56Speaker 2: also work on taming that stress because we all know
- 5:59Speaker 2: we've got it, whether we want to admit it or not.
- 6:02Speaker 2: So let's find some healthy ways of coping with your stress.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. It's something that everybody deals with, but not
- 6:10Speaker 1: all of us deal with well. And that's not always
- 6:13Speaker 1: because we wouldn't like a better way. Sometimes you just
- 6:16Speaker 1: need somebody to kind of suggest some things so that
- 6:18Speaker 1: you can try it out. And I love that. And
- 6:20Speaker 1: I love the setting. Nobody wants another workshop in a
- 6:24Speaker 1: boardroom if they can't. I love that you guys are
- 6:26Speaker 1: going to start off with some food and an activity
- 6:30Speaker 1: and having something. I really like that. I'm always seeing
- 6:34Speaker 1: something like that with the Professional Women's Network is bringing
- 6:38Speaker 1: it together, that collaboration. And that really builds community. And
- 6:42Speaker 1: I think that's what really helps empower each other.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. And that community, I mean, we're averaging 100
- 6:48Speaker 2: to 125 women at these events. And it's just growing
- 6:52Speaker 2: because the camaraderie and just the, well, networking that you
- 6:57Speaker 2: get out of these events. I guess that's a common
- 6:59Speaker 2: theme here, right? But it's more than just education. It's
- 7:03Speaker 2: more than just getting out of the office for an
- 7:05Speaker 2: hour over your lunch break. I know a lot of
- 7:07Speaker 2: people are like, oh, it's over the lunch hour. I'm
- 7:09Speaker 2: just going to go and take an extra long lunch. No,
- 7:11Speaker 2: you actually get to meet other people. It's all about
- 7:14Speaker 2: the connections you're making at these events. And we're hoping
- 7:16Speaker 2: to really build that community of women and individuals that
- 7:20Speaker 2: want to come together that are like-minded, that are all
- 7:22Speaker 2: there for a common purpose. We're actually working on our
- 7:26Speaker 2: 2027 planning. So we have a planning committee that works
- 7:30Speaker 2: on all of that. So if anyone is like very
- 7:32Speaker 2: interested and really wants to dive more into Professional Women's Network,
- 7:36Speaker 2: they're welcome to reach out to me and be a
- 7:37Speaker 2: part of that process if they're interested. Otherwise, we'd love
- 7:40Speaker 2: to see them on September 30th.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Do they need to do anything before, any pre-registration, limited
- 7:45Speaker 1: number of spots available kind of thing?
- 7:47Speaker 2: Yes. So because it is growing so much, we do
- 7:49Speaker 2: have to cap how many attend, unfortunately. So they do
- 7:52Speaker 2: need to register by September 23rd. You can do that
- 7:55Speaker 2: on our website. You can go to sockvalleyareachamber.com slash PWN
- 8:00Speaker 2: for Professional Women's Network. You can register right there or
- 8:05Speaker 2: just shoot me an email, give us a call at
- 8:06Speaker 2: the Sock Valley Chamber. Whatever you need to do, we'll
- 8:08Speaker 2: get you on that list.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Do it early rather than late. Make sure you get
- 8:12Speaker 1: your spot. You'll be thanking yourself and Dallas for it.
- 8:17Speaker 1: You know, we're going to keep on this, you know,
- 8:19Speaker 1: lunching and learning kind of theme here with your legislative
- 8:23Speaker 1: lunch and learn. And this isn't local politicians that are
- 8:27Speaker 1: going to be visiting us, right?
- 8:29Speaker 2: Correct. So this is a nonpartisan legislative update that we do.
- 8:32Speaker 2: It is on October 1st. This one is also at
- 8:35Speaker 2: the college. They just have a really nice space for
- 8:38Speaker 2: all of our technology needs. So we appreciate the partnership there.
- 8:41Speaker 2: But we bring in representatives from the Illinois Chamber and
- 8:44Speaker 2: the U.S. Chamber so that they give a nonpartisan look
- 8:46Speaker 2: at what is happening currently. They'll be giving updates specifically
- 8:50Speaker 2: for our business owners, things that they should be looking
- 8:53Speaker 2: out for, things that that might be changing, that they
- 8:55Speaker 2: might need to pivot in their businesses. We don't know
- 8:59Speaker 2: exactly what it's going to look like quite yet because, well,
- 9:01Speaker 2: we haven't gotten quite there yet with legislation and what's
- 9:05Speaker 2: going on, but it'll be a live update of what
- 9:08Speaker 2: is currently happening in Springfield and at a national level
- 9:11Speaker 2: as well. and how that's going to affect our local businesses.
- 9:14Speaker 2: So it's a really good time for our business owners
- 9:16Speaker 2: to come out, know what is happening, know what they
- 9:19Speaker 2: need to be looking out for in the next few
- 9:21Speaker 2: months as legislation is progressing, things that they might need
- 9:24Speaker 2: to be ready to pivot for and make changes for
- 9:26Speaker 2: if there's any new laws or rules that are going
- 9:28Speaker 2: to affect them. It's a great time for them to
- 9:31Speaker 2: ask questions of the Illinois Chamber and U.S. Chamber to
- 9:34Speaker 2: know how to best prep their businesses and be ready
- 9:36Speaker 2: to make those changes if needed. And it's also a
- 9:39Speaker 2: good time for them to be heard and have a
- 9:42Speaker 2: say in some of that as well. So again, that
- 9:45Speaker 2: is on October 1st. Like I said, it is at
- 9:47Speaker 2: the college. Registration is open now. You do have to
- 9:50Speaker 2: register about a week in advance just so we have
- 9:52Speaker 2: a head count. Lunch will be provided because it is
- 9:54Speaker 2: over a lunch hour. There should be some really good
- 9:57Speaker 2: updates and it's just a nice time to hear for
- 10:01Speaker 2: yourself firsthand what is happening and be engaged in that.
- 10:05Speaker 1: Yeah, very important because a lot of times during my
- 10:10Speaker 1: time talking with some state and even the local politician,
- 10:15Speaker 1: they all kind of let you know about the fact
- 10:17Speaker 1: that a lot of times When it comes to some
- 10:19Speaker 1: of these bills, you'll get things that'll get added in
- 10:21Speaker 1: last minute, very last minute to some of their dismay.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Hundreds of pages, sometimes additions not getting missed by them,
- 10:31Speaker 1: but maybe whether it's the media or whoever that's covering these.
- 10:35Speaker 1: And so it can be very easy to miss things.
- 10:38Speaker 1: some of these nuances that change and go into effect,
- 10:40Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter if you missed it, if you're
- 10:43Speaker 1: not complying with it, or if it's something that could
- 10:45Speaker 1: cause you a problem. So it's better just to be prepared.
- 10:50Speaker 2: It is. And I mean, these are professionals that that
- 10:53Speaker 2: is what they do for a living. They go through
- 10:55Speaker 2: every single one of those pages. I don't know how
- 10:58Speaker 2: they do it, but that's why they come and talk
- 11:00Speaker 2: to us about it because it is easy to overlook
- 11:03Speaker 2: some of those Maybe the story that the media is
- 11:06Speaker 2: saying is one big highlight, but it's missing some of
- 11:08Speaker 2: those smaller things that are going to affect our local
- 11:11Speaker 2: businesses here. And when you're talking about like missing some
- 11:14Speaker 2: of those things, sometimes that's hundreds of dollars in fines
- 11:17Speaker 2: daily if they aren't doing the right things. So it's
- 11:21Speaker 2: good just to have a heads up, know what might
- 11:23Speaker 2: affect you, and then be able to kind of keep
- 11:26Speaker 2: tabs on those items.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, you don't want to kick yourself in the
- 11:32Speaker 1: butt later. And you're getting to hear it right from
- 11:35Speaker 1: the people who are on the front lines doing it.
- 11:38Speaker 1: So it'd be like me telling you, go ask your
- 11:41Speaker 1: doctor about that bump on your arm, not Google. Yeah.
- 11:44Speaker 1: You know, get it.
- 11:45Speaker 2: Don't ask chat GPT. Yeah.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness. No. Get it from the source. Be careful.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Be informed. And then go out with a much better plan.
- 11:55Speaker 1: So I love that. And we're kind of leading off
- 11:58Speaker 1: here with fun times. It's fun for everybody, but for
- 12:03Speaker 1: those behind the scenes, it's also a lot of work.
- 12:05Speaker 1: And I think we need to say that and appreciate
- 12:07Speaker 1: how much goes into it. But we got the Fiesta
- 12:09Speaker 1: Parade coming up.
- 12:10Speaker 2: The big one.
- 12:11Speaker 1: It is almost time.
- 12:12Speaker 2: About a week away. So on September 19th, next Saturday,
- 12:17Speaker 2: Fiesta Parade is going to be stepping off in Rock Falls.
- 12:20Speaker 2: It has a little bit of a different route this year,
- 12:22Speaker 2: so it is going to start, if you're familiar with
- 12:24Speaker 2: where Jimmy John's and First Avenue Barber is, it'll be
- 12:27Speaker 2: starting at that intersection on First Avenue, and it's going
- 12:30Speaker 2: to travel across the bridge into Sterling, and it'll end
- 12:32Speaker 2: over by County Market. So we are gearing up. The
- 12:35Speaker 2: parade will kick off at 1 o'clock on September 19th.
- 12:38Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's looking forward to this. It's a good time.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Everybody's out, and it looks like beautiful weather so far.
- 12:47Speaker 1: This is the 19th, I think?
- 12:49Speaker 2: This is the 73rd.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Or 73rd. No, which I'm getting that. I have too many.
- 12:53Speaker 1: Look at this list I have. I keep telling everybody. Oh,
- 12:57Speaker 1: I know. I've got two pages of events, and I'm
- 12:59Speaker 1: not even all the way into winter yet. I always
- 13:02Speaker 1: tell you there's something to do in the Sauk Valley.
- 13:03Speaker 1: If you say you're bored, you're just not trying.
- 13:06Speaker 2: I know. There's always something going on. So this is
- 13:09Speaker 2: the 73rd year of the Fiesta Parade. We are so
- 13:13Speaker 2: honored to continue this tradition. We know that it is
- 13:17Speaker 2: one of the largest events that happens in Sterling and
- 13:20Speaker 2: Rock Falls. It spans both towns, brings out thousands of
- 13:24Speaker 2: people for the day, just for a couple hours for
- 13:26Speaker 2: the parade. We're very honored to play a part in
- 13:29Speaker 2: organizing it. I say play a part. Our Hispanic Business
- 13:33Speaker 2: Leaders Committee organizes the entire event. The proceeds from the
- 13:37Speaker 2: event go into their scholarship fund for Hispanic students. It
- 13:41Speaker 2: also goes into some of their other programming that they do.
- 13:44Speaker 2: For example, they do a mentorship program with Elevate Youth
- 13:47Speaker 2: Center in Sterling where they go twice a month and
- 13:49Speaker 2: they mentor high school and junior high kids. They also
- 13:53Speaker 2: are doing a bilingual FAFSA completion night for students that
- 13:57Speaker 2: their parents might need help interpreting or translating documents for
- 14:01Speaker 2: the FAFSA form for their kids to go to college.
- 14:04Speaker 2: So we're putting the funds into those programs that they're
- 14:07Speaker 2: working on. They're really, really proud of the things that
- 14:09Speaker 2: they do, and they want everyone to know it's more
- 14:12Speaker 2: than just the parade committee. They have a lot of
- 14:15Speaker 2: things going on, and so that's where the funds from
- 14:18Speaker 2: Fiesta Parade go, is into all those programs and things
- 14:21Speaker 2: that they have going on. So we're really excited to
- 14:24Speaker 2: do it again. Like I said, Saturday, September 19th. Mark
- 14:27Speaker 2: your calendar. Note that the parade route is just a
- 14:30Speaker 2: little bit different this year. I know that a lot
- 14:33Speaker 2: of people are used to it starting by McDonald's. So
- 14:35Speaker 2: don't set your chair up by McDonald's because it won't
- 14:37Speaker 2: be going that far down. It will be starting down,
- 14:40Speaker 2: not even a half a mile down the road. We
- 14:43Speaker 2: did work with Rock Falls PD to make that change.
- 14:46Speaker 2: They suggested shortening the route just a little bit and
- 14:49Speaker 2: changing the lineup area so that it's a more secure area.
- 14:52Speaker 2: We had some safety concerns the past couple years with
- 14:57Speaker 2: where we were staging the parade. And so just to
- 14:59Speaker 2: make sure that it is safe for everyone participating in
- 15:01Speaker 2: the parade, we did have to make some adjustments. And
- 15:03Speaker 2: we're very grateful for the Rock Falls PD for helping
- 15:06Speaker 2: and figuring that all out and making the suggestion and
- 15:08Speaker 2: making the recommendation just for the safety of everyone. So
- 15:12Speaker 2: we're grateful that they came forward with that information and
- 15:14Speaker 2: we're trying to make those changes and we're hoping that
- 15:17Speaker 2: it'll be a very fun and safe event for everyone
- 15:20Speaker 2: this year.
- 15:21Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. It's still going to be the same wonderful
- 15:24Speaker 1: Fiesta parade, just a little bit, just moved up a
- 15:27Speaker 1: little bit, just for safety down there by McDonald's intersection. Very,
- 15:30Speaker 1: very busy. I could, I could see why they wanted
- 15:32Speaker 1: to make the call. So yeah, safety first, go out there,
- 15:36Speaker 1: have fun, bring a long chair, bring your friends and
- 15:39Speaker 1: your family together. Come join us all. Dallas, anything else
- 15:43Speaker 1: you wanted to share while we've got time?
- 15:45Speaker 2: Just that we are so grateful for the community support.
- 15:48Speaker 2: When we have some of these big events coming up,
- 15:50Speaker 2: we just really appreciate all the support that comes out
- 15:52Speaker 2: for it. For example, we just had an event last night,
- 15:55Speaker 2: the Sauk Valley Grown event, which is our agriculture advancement
- 15:59Speaker 2: committee event. worked with the University of Illinois Extension and
- 16:02Speaker 2: WACC to put together farm tours throughout the day. And
- 16:05Speaker 2: then the kids in the culinary arts program at Whiteside
- 16:08Speaker 2: Area Career Center actually cooked dinner with produce from all
- 16:11Speaker 2: of those local farms. And we had a wonderful turnout.
- 16:14Speaker 2: We're so grateful for it. the community coming out and
- 16:17Speaker 2: supporting the kids, the farms, the tours, and then again
- 16:20Speaker 2: for the parade, coming out and supporting all the businesses
- 16:23Speaker 2: that put a lot of time and effort into their
- 16:24Speaker 2: floats and their parade entries. We really appreciate it. It
- 16:27Speaker 2: means a lot when people come out and cheer on
- 16:29Speaker 2: our businesses and support our local businesses. So thank you
- 16:33Speaker 2: so much for all the support.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Could not have said it better. Yes, so much of
- 16:36Speaker 1: this does not happen without community support, and we're lucky
- 16:39Speaker 1: we have that. But it's not just luck. organizations like
- 16:44Speaker 1: the Chamber and others making sure working towards these networks
- 16:49Speaker 1: get built and just continuing them and growing them is
- 16:53Speaker 1: what really keeps it going. So thank you and everybody
- 16:55Speaker 1: there for all that hard work, Dallas. We appreciate it.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Absolutely. Thank you.