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August 28, 2026 | The Jon Justice Show | FREEDOM FRIDAY · The Jon Justice Show: Presented by Center of the American Experiment

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SPEAKER_21: Well, and would you look at that?
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SPEAKER_21: We made it to another Freedom Friday.
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SPEAKER_21: First weekend of the Minnesota State Fair.
0:07
SPEAKER_21: Freedom Friday.
0:08
SPEAKER_21: We already have blasts rolling in with some fair commentary.
0:12
SPEAKER_21: And with the full house this morning on Freedom Friday, we'll certainly be talking about the fair a bit and take your blast throughout the show this morning.
0:19
SPEAKER_21: As a matter of fact, I have an article a little bit later on in the Star Tribune.
0:22
SPEAKER_21: We're going to get um some etiquette lessons on uh how one is supposed to act at the Minnesota State Fair.
0:29
SPEAKER_21: So I'm very curious to see what the group has to say about that.
0:32
SPEAKER_21: I am your host, John Justice.
0:34
SPEAKER_21: It is the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
0:37
SPEAKER_21: We have Isaac in once again producing the show on Freedom Friday.
0:41
SPEAKER_21: Good morning, sir.
0:41
SPEAKER_21: Good morning.
0:42
SPEAKER_21: I got uh a little worried yesterday.
0:44
SPEAKER_21: I I I went to get, you know, fair fair tickets in-house for, you know, my appearance tomorrow, Center of the American Experiment in the Dan Patcha area near the grandstand near Minnesota the uh Minnesotan booth, my friend Corey over there.
0:56
SPEAKER_21: Shout out to the Minnesotan over in White Bear Lake.
0:59
SPEAKER_21: And um I got home and I didn't have my I didn't have my tickets in a little bit of a panic.
1:03
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, I don't know what was going on with me yesterday.
1:06
SPEAKER_21: I had all kinds of issues.
1:07
SPEAKER_21: If you listen to the beginning of the show, I forgot to put the coffee mug underneath the the the coffee pot.
1:13
SPEAKER_21: I just was having all kinds of problems.
1:15
SPEAKER_21: I pulled the tickets out of the out of the envelope and I just left them on the desk.
1:19
SPEAKER_22: Well, I left them on Bill's desk and just walked away.
1:22
SPEAKER_22: I have no idea how I got distracted.
1:24
SPEAKER_22: I don't know.
1:25
SPEAKER_22: I have no idea what happened.
1:26
SPEAKER_21: So looking forward to the fair tomorrow.
1:28
SPEAKER_21: Hope you can make plans to come on out and join us again.
1:30
SPEAKER_21: I will be there 11 until uh 1, but uh Center of the American Experiment is going to be there uh for the entire day.
1:36
SPEAKER_21: We've got a lot of uh great uh free stuff to give in studio today.
1:40
SPEAKER_21: They've been traveling, but they'll be back on the comfy chairs here in the American Experiment studio, Catherine Johnson and Grace uh Keating.
1:48
SPEAKER_21: Also, uh AK Kamara, RNC Committeemen, and uh Max Reimer, your representative.
1:53
SPEAKER_21: He should be here in about uh 20 minutes from now.
1:56
SPEAKER_21: Got a lot of fun items in the in the stack uh today.
1:59
SPEAKER_21: This is one of those Friday mornings that we have some relevant things to talk about, some some news that broke uh you know overnight that we'll dive into in this first hour.
2:09
SPEAKER_21: But um I did, I grabbed I grabbed some some fun stuff for conversation today.
2:13
SPEAKER_21: We're gonna get into some Gen Z terminology a little bit later on this morning.
2:18
SPEAKER_21: Let's yeah.
2:19
SPEAKER_21: Well, I I didn't realize this, but apparently.
2:23
unknown: Yeah.
2:25
SPEAKER_21: Exactly.
2:26
SPEAKER_21: I have a list, and it they're there items that Gen Z has co-opted, but they've changed the meaning from when individuals like myself who are not Gen Z used to use them.
2:39
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, what made them cool?
2:41
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, no, I don't I I don't think so.
2:43
SPEAKER_21: Well, in some ways you've you've I speak the like as if Isaac is representing in this case he's representing all of Gen Z right now.
2:50
SPEAKER_21: So um in some cases, Gen Z has taken some rather um, oh, what's the word I want to use?
2:58
SPEAKER_21: Uh inappropriate terminology.
3:00
SPEAKER_21: We'll put it that way, depending on your view.
3:03
SPEAKER_21: Some inappropriate terminology and made it a little more benign.
3:07
SPEAKER_21: So I don't even I don't even want to give away what it is on the list.
3:10
SPEAKER_21: I don't even want to, I don't want to, I don't want to ruin for anybody.
3:13
SPEAKER_21: Uh so that along with a host of uh other issues, including uh Ilhan Omar's son got busted.
3:18
SPEAKER_21: Did you see this story?
3:20
SPEAKER_29: So hoping we would cover this.
3:21
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, oh we'll get into it.
3:23
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, we'll talk about it probably in the eight o'clock hour.
3:25
SPEAKER_21: Also, Center of the American Experiment, uh, as I mentioned, uh the majority of the of the peeps here, um, my fellow colleagues, pinky's up, uh, were in Florida for an event and won an award.
3:37
SPEAKER_21: We did.
3:37
SPEAKER_21: It's pretty awesome.
3:38
SPEAKER_21: So we have some audio of uh Center of the American Experiment going and um and uh accepting that award.
3:46
SPEAKER_21: So looking forward to uh to sharing that with you.
3:49
SPEAKER_21: Also, a bit of a programming note.
3:50
SPEAKER_21: We had some difficulties um attaching the feed this morning to at MN Think Tank.
3:56
SPEAKER_21: So if you're on X and you want to watch, uh, it's actually on my feed this morning.
3:59
SPEAKER_21: So head on over to at uh J-O-N John Justice, and you can uh watch live on X, of course, Facebook and uh YouTube as well, Center of the American Experiment, and on the free Mix LR app.
4:12
SPEAKER_21: I had somebody email me yesterday, and I think I know what's happening, but just to clear it up, because some we were asked, we asked the question um how, because we've had this week a handful of individuals who just recently found the show, uh, even though we've been on for a month, and that's totally fine.
4:29
SPEAKER_21: I was gone, I was kind of off of uh being able to talk to everybody from doing the show for about a month.
4:35
SPEAKER_21: So it takes a while for people to come and catch up.
4:38
SPEAKER_21: So we were asking just how did you find out about the show?
4:41
SPEAKER_21: Um, because we're looking at you know doing some advertising and promoting the show.
4:45
SPEAKER_21: And uh somebody made a comment about they tried the Mix LR app, but it kept wanting to charge them.
4:51
SPEAKER_21: And the Mix LR app is completely free.
4:53
SPEAKER_21: The only thing that I believe you would end up having to pay for is if you were to want to follow me on there, I think there need you need to go and sign up.
5:03
SPEAKER_21: But otherwise, the app is completely free to listen to the show on.
5:07
SPEAKER_21: And we actually use it every morning as we go and um as we go and launch the show every day.
5:13
SPEAKER_21: We double check the feed uh to make sure that uh that it's that it's connected.
5:17
SPEAKER_21: So just want to let everybody know that the best way to just listen to the audio is through the uh the Mix LR app.
5:23
SPEAKER_21: You can email at any point throughout the show, John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
5:28
SPEAKER_21: And of course, we have our blaster line, 612-584-4565.
5:33
SPEAKER_21: A lot of comments have already rolled in on a Freedom Friday.
5:36
SPEAKER_21: And Freedom Friday means we do take your on and off topic comments all morning long as we work through uh the news of the day.
5:44
SPEAKER_21: So let's go ahead and start here on the blaster line this morning.
5:47
SPEAKER_21: It's the John Justice show presented by American Experiment, and I'm glad you're with us today.
5:52
SPEAKER_07: Hey, good morning, everybody, and happy Freedom Friday.
5:54
SPEAKER_07: It's Lorenzo from Lakeville.
5:56
SPEAKER_07: Hey, quick question.
5:57
SPEAKER_07: When racist Rose decided to go and pick out her voice moderator, does anybody know why she picked out the Billy Bob Thornton from Spring Blade Voice?
6:06
SPEAKER_08: You know, because it sounds a lot like Amy Jake, it's Eric from Brainerd, I mean Solomon State, why am I so messed up?
6:18
SPEAKER_08: RCU acting over state fair when I'll get myself screaming in French guy and cool on time.
6:25
SPEAKER_22: Have a weekend, everybody.
6:27
SPEAKER_22: I'd give that about a four on the Billy Bob Thornton Sling Blade voice.
6:33
SPEAKER_21: Does speaking of Gen Z, does that have any merit to you at all, producer Isaac?
6:38
SPEAKER_21: Billy Bob Thornton?
6:39
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, and and Sling Blade.
6:41
SPEAKER_21: Oh no, though.
6:41
SPEAKER_21: Okay, that's what I that's that's what I thought.
6:43
unknown: Boy.
6:44
SPEAKER_21: I know.
6:45
SPEAKER_21: It's so weird.
6:46
SPEAKER_21: That generational gap.
6:48
SPEAKER_21: This is it, it's it's very odd for me, just because this is the first time in my I guess, I guess it's uh it was inevitable that I would be doing, I would be a talk show host for as many, because it has it's been about 30 years now.
7:01
SPEAKER_21: So I guess it was inevitable that I would arrive here, that eventually I would be surrounded by uh commentators on the show and producers on the show that would have there'd be that much of an age gap that the references that I grew up with that were just commonplace are just completely lost.
7:17
SPEAKER_29: Welcome to the future, old man.
7:18
SPEAKER_21: One of uh one of Billy Bob Thornton's most memorable, actually, I think it's the role that put him on the map was the role of a guy in a film called Sling Blade.
7:28
SPEAKER_21: And that's that talk back was kind of how he talked.
7:32
SPEAKER_21: Wasn't it wasn't a great great movie, by the way.
7:34
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
7:34
SPEAKER_21: It's not a not a not not like a feel-good family film by any stretch of the imagination, but still a very good film.
7:41
SPEAKER_21: Uh to his question, I have no idea why why the pickleball coach chose that voice in disguise.
7:47
SPEAKER_21: Or your guess is as good as mine.
7:48
SPEAKER_21: I don't know why they listen every single day if they don't like everything that I say.
7:52
SPEAKER_21: And in terms of them coming to the Minnesota State Fair, the foes of the show are way too cowardly to come up and actually go and talk to me.
7:58
SPEAKER_21: So I know that from experience.
8:01
SPEAKER_21: All right, let's go to uh another friend of the show, Debbie, and see what she has to say this morning on Freedom Friday.
8:07
SPEAKER_24: Hi, John.
8:08
SPEAKER_24: This is Debbie.
8:09
SPEAKER_24: I'm looking forward to uh Freedom Friday.
8:12
SPEAKER_24: Also, I want to say thank you for all the hard work you put into the shows and all the thank you for all the good shows that you make.
8:22
SPEAKER_24: Thank you.
8:23
SPEAKER_21: Well, thank you very much.
8:24
SPEAKER_21: I I have a good day.
8:25
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, I uh I appreciate the uh I appreciate the kind words.
8:28
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, and we're looking to expand in the future as well.
8:30
SPEAKER_21: We've got a lot of big uh we have a lot of big plans.
8:33
SPEAKER_21: This whole endeavor of launching this live show here on American Experiment um really happened on a on a sort of a truncated uh timeline.
8:43
SPEAKER_21: And uh since then, we are constantly talking about how we're going to improve and uh and expand uh the show.
8:51
SPEAKER_21: And and again, also improve just on the way that we distribute the show as well.
8:55
SPEAKER_21: So there's a lot to coming in the future that I'm really, really excited about.
9:00
SPEAKER_21: But we certainly appreciate all the support that the show has received um since its uh launch now.
9:06
SPEAKER_21: Wow, it's just it's been one month.
9:08
SPEAKER_21: It was the the 27th, was our first show.
9:10
SPEAKER_21: So happy one month anniversary.
9:11
SPEAKER_21: Congratulations.
9:12
SPEAKER_21: Thank you very much.
9:13
SPEAKER_13: Hey guys, Brandon Connor Stroll.
9:17
SPEAKER_13: Oh looks like Ilhan Omar's son with some things you shouldn't have.
9:26
SPEAKER_13: I wonder.
9:27
SPEAKER_13: Do you think charges will come?
9:31
SPEAKER_13: I'm guessing not.
9:34
SPEAKER_13: But maybe they should raid her house, too.
9:36
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, Ilhan Omar's son um is linked to an apartment raid where guns and ammo were seized.
9:44
SPEAKER_21: Police executed a search warrant on Tuesday night at the Minneapolis apartment, reportedly shared by Omar's adult son and a man arrested earlier that day on a weapons charge, according to multiple law enforcement uh sources.
9:58
SPEAKER_21: You know, you would think that the son of Representative Ilhan Omar would not be potentially running with the wrong crowd.
10:07
SPEAKER_21: I you would you would think.
10:10
SPEAKER_21: So we'll get into that coming up uh later on uh in the show.
10:13
SPEAKER_21: Uh let's go and hear from a friend of the show, Gary, who I believe went to the fair on uh opening day and wants to share some of uh his thoughts on a Freedom Friday.
10:22
SPEAKER_02: Good morning, John chapter five at the fair yesterday, and we got in the morning before.
10:34
SPEAKER_02: Um before um Peggy Flying.
10:55
SPEAKER_02: So they weren't there.
10:57
SPEAKER_21: Well, they were let me I'll get back to your to your comment in just a moment.
11:00
SPEAKER_21: I know that um, well, at least she was in front of the she was in front of the entrance to the Minnesota State Fair.
11:06
SPEAKER_21: I saw a uh a photograph and a video of uh uh Petty Flanagan uh yesterday out in front of the state fair.
11:13
SPEAKER_21: She was wearing a hat that said, Love me.
11:17
SPEAKER_21: Was it love me like I love the state fair?
11:19
SPEAKER_21: Correct.
11:20
SPEAKER_21: Is that what it was?
11:20
SPEAKER_21: Yes.
11:21
SPEAKER_21: We were on a group text uh with the Freedom Friday crew, which is essentially everybody here at American Experiment.
11:28
SPEAKER_21: But and I it's just I was wondering, was that a common phrase for fairgoers?
11:34
SPEAKER_21: Love me like I love.
11:35
SPEAKER_21: I'd never seen that before.
11:36
SPEAKER_21: It just seemed really awkward.
11:39
SPEAKER_21: But uh resident um and biggest fair fan, Katherine Johnson, said that that was not a typical, a typical phrase.
11:47
SPEAKER_21: Like I don't think she had even heard of that before.
11:49
SPEAKER_21: Had you ever heard that before?
11:50
SPEAKER_21: Love me like I love the what if you hate the fair?
11:53
SPEAKER_21: Well, I don't want it.
11:54
SPEAKER_21: I mean, I'm not saying I do, I'm just saying in general, you're kind of opening yourself up there by inviting someone to to share their emotions with you with the same way they feel about the fair.
12:06
SPEAKER_21: What if you have a bad experience?
12:07
SPEAKER_21: You went in loving the fair, but you came out hating it, and now, well, Peggy Flanagan told me to hate her.
12:12
SPEAKER_29: You went into the fair and you came out with nine billion less dollars.
12:16
SPEAKER_29: That's right.
12:16
SPEAKER_29: That's right.
12:16
SPEAKER_21: What is that?
12:18
SPEAKER_21: It was very odd.
12:18
SPEAKER_21: Very odd.
12:19
SPEAKER_21: She was very odd.
12:20
SPEAKER_21: The video was very odd.
12:22
SPEAKER_21: This election cycle is very odd.
12:24
SPEAKER_21: Let's go and hear from Friend of the Show, Eric, on the blaster line this morning.
12:27
SPEAKER_13: Hey John, Eric from Tennessee.
12:29
SPEAKER_13: Great show so far.
12:30
SPEAKER_13: I've been listening to communism tool late.
12:33
SPEAKER_13: I gotta admit.
12:33
SPEAKER_06: Okay, that's not fair.
12:34
SPEAKER_21: He left that at 6 a.m.
12:35
SPEAKER_21: I hadn't even started yet.
12:37
SPEAKER_21: I appreciate the comments, Eric, but I mean so you were enjoying the parody, is what you were saying.
12:47
SPEAKER_21: No, I love Eric.
12:47
SPEAKER_21: I decided I just want to give him a give him a hard time on a Freedom Friday.
12:51
SPEAKER_13: Now that I'm hearing it at the start of the show or at least before the show, it's kind of reminding me of Lovely Day.
12:56
SPEAKER_21: So He's talking about communism Kool-Aid that we play of the parodies before the show starts, by the way.
13:00
SPEAKER_21: I kind of stepped on it.
13:01
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, it's growing on me a bit.
13:05
SPEAKER_21: Oh, was that it?
13:06
SPEAKER_21: Oh, that was it?
13:06
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, I like communism Kool-Aid.
13:08
SPEAKER_21: I'm gonna redo that.
13:09
SPEAKER_21: I when I when I created that particular parody, uh my wife Melinda had inspired me.
13:14
SPEAKER_21: She had she put together a post-it note of, oh, she had Socialism Milkshake at one point, I think was one of the ones' titles that she was suggesting.
13:25
SPEAKER_21: Communism Kool-Aid was certainly one of them.
13:27
SPEAKER_21: So I put in a prompt to the AI app to create the parody, not realizing that you can actually write your own lyrics, which is how I went about turning all of my Dark Ears poetry into a bunch of new wave pop songs.
13:43
SPEAKER_21: Actually, made a whole album's worth.
13:45
SPEAKER_21: Um, because I'm just that kind of nerd.
13:49
SPEAKER_21: Uh but now I know that you can actually write lyrics.
13:51
SPEAKER_21: So I'm gonna I'm gonna do an update on uh on communism Kool-Aid at uh some at some point in time to uh have it be a little bit more reflective of the stories that we're talking about rather than having the AI overlords uh go and make that parody.
14:04
SPEAKER_21: But it's it's a bit of a jam.
14:06
SPEAKER_21: I do like communism Kool-Aid.
14:07
SPEAKER_21: It gets in your That's the one thing about AI-generated songs.
14:11
SPEAKER_21: They're very, very hooky.
14:12
SPEAKER_21: Like they get into your head.
14:13
SPEAKER_21: They're like the earworms.
14:15
SPEAKER_21: Like AI, the the AI overlords create like the best earworms.
14:20
SPEAKER_21: It really is uh it really is incredible.
14:22
SPEAKER_21: So uh thank you to everybody who's already left comments on a Freedom Friday, John.justice at american experiment.org.
14:27
SPEAKER_21: Again, 612-584-4565.
14:31
SPEAKER_21: And for those that are on X this morning, or maybe you're listening somewhere else and you usually watch on X, uh, the live feed is on my feed this morning, uh at J O N at John Justice.
14:41
SPEAKER_21: We had uh trouble connecting to the at uh MN think tank feed.
14:44
SPEAKER_21: All right, let's dive into this.
14:46
SPEAKER_21: Um, the ICE agent, Christian Castro, um, the individual who uh Thief Ellison and Scary Moriarty were desperately trying to politicize by attempting to force Texas Governor Greg Abbott to send him back to Minnesota and extradite him.
15:02
SPEAKER_21: Um he has been suspended without pay on the allegations of a shooting that involved a Venezuelan uh immigrant and lying under oath during Operation Metro Search.
15:14
SPEAKER_21: Now, he was released from the Texas jail after reaching the 90-day limit for extradition.
15:19
SPEAKER_21: He does still face potential federal charges and disciplinary action.
15:23
SPEAKER_21: So a senior official with DHS shared in a statement with Fox 9 the officer in question, Castro, has been suspended without pay during the ongoing investigation.
15:34
SPEAKER_21: Lying under oath is a serious federal offense.
15:37
SPEAKER_21: The U.S.
15:38
SPEAKER_21: Attorney's Office is actively investigating these statements.
15:41
SPEAKER_21: Upon conclusion of the investigation, the officers may face disciplinary action, including termination of employment, as well as potential criminal prosecution.
15:51
SPEAKER_21: They basically couldn't keep him locked up anymore.
15:53
SPEAKER_21: He was in there for three months and he had served at that time, and now they had to go and release him.
15:58
SPEAKER_21: And listen, Greg Abbott was absolutely correct in not sending him back here to Minnesota.
16:03
SPEAKER_21: This was pure political grandstanding.
16:05
SPEAKER_21: It was nothing but a means to try to continue to perpetuate the Operation Metro Surge narrative and to give something for Thief Ellison to run on as he talks about being, you know, the people's attorneys general.
16:18
SPEAKER_21: The men and women of ICE went on to say are entrusted with upholding the law and are held to the highest standards of professionalism, integrity, ethical conduct.
16:26
SPEAKER_21: Violations of the sacred oath will not be tolerated.
16:29
SPEAKER_21: So he was released from custody about uh 7 a.m.
16:33
SPEAKER_21: uh yesterday, due um to be released, as I mentioned, because he reached the 90-day limit under Texas law that um limits how long people can be held without uh without while waiting for extradition.
16:46
SPEAKER_21: So that's what was going on.
16:47
SPEAKER_21: On Wednesday, a judge had denied a petition for the temporary restraining order by Minnesota Attorney General Thief Ellison to keep Castro jailed as they fight a Texas Governor Greg Abbott over ISIS agent's uh extradition.
17:00
SPEAKER_21: And a lot of commentary has been said, and I agree.
17:02
SPEAKER_21: Bill Glon put up a post yesterday, and that's what sparked um this comment to you.
17:08
SPEAKER_22: But maybe, you know, maybe Thief Ellison isn't very good at law.
17:14
SPEAKER_21: Just, you know, perhaps he's not really good at doing this attorney's lawyer stuff.
17:22
SPEAKER_21: Maybe he ain't that uh he ain't that great at it.
17:25
SPEAKER_21: Perhaps.
17:26
SPEAKER_21: Doesn't have really good fashion sense either.
17:28
SPEAKER_21: That hat he's been wearing is really stupid.
17:31
SPEAKER_21: I'm not one, you know, and again, and I try not to go to the superficial.
17:34
SPEAKER_21: I really, really do.
17:35
SPEAKER_21: I try to keep it to you do something dumb and I'm gonna call you dumb.
17:39
SPEAKER_21: Uh Thief Ellison, though, he's on a different, he's on a different level.
17:43
SPEAKER_21: He reaches that socket wrench tool status, and so I do not have a hard time giving him uh a hard time for his stupid little hat.
17:51
SPEAKER_21: And the fact that he's a really little dude.
17:52
SPEAKER_21: Like he's super, I think he's trying to overcompensate.
17:54
SPEAKER_21: He's a very small guy.
17:56
SPEAKER_21: Tiny guy.
17:56
SPEAKER_21: Tiny guy.
17:57
SPEAKER_21: Like if he were here, if he were like standing here, he'd be like this high.
18:00
SPEAKER_21: If you're watching on the on the show, he'd be like, he'd be like right here.
18:03
SPEAKER_21: He'd be like a little oompa loop.
18:06
unknown: Right here.
18:07
SPEAKER_21: 612-584-4565.
18:09
SPEAKER_21: If you want to leave a I told you I was in a mood today.
18:13
SPEAKER_21: Speaking of ice, got this from the Guardian.
18:18
SPEAKER_21: Plans to supply immigrations and customs enforcement officers with special gloves that can deliver electric shocks have alarmed experts and drawn scrutiny amid some high-profile lawsuits over their use in correctional facilities.
18:31
SPEAKER_21: The the lawsuits, and we talked about this earlier in the week.
18:34
SPEAKER_21: It might have even been last week when the story first came up.
18:36
SPEAKER_21: Um, the individuals that have been hurt beyond just beyond just being shocked, right?
18:43
SPEAKER_21: The individuals that have actually suffered injury, they were like shocked like 27 times.
18:50
SPEAKER_21: So I I'm I'm pretty sure that the general use of the shock gloves is going to be completely fine when it comes to immigrations and customs enforcement.
18:56
SPEAKER_21: Like for actually actually the first the first store or the first uh paragraph mentions this.
19:02
SPEAKER_21: In one extreme case, a 43-year-old man died.
19:05
SPEAKER_21: That's horrible.
19:06
SPEAKER_21: But he was shot 40 times by the officers in combination of the gloves and a taser in a county jail in Kentucky.
19:15
SPEAKER_21: The man's widow is suing authorities.
19:17
SPEAKER_21: I'm assuming they couldn't bring this dude down, so they have they abent, they basically electrocuted him.
19:25
SPEAKER_21: So what's so the trade-off here?
19:27
SPEAKER_21: So do you want shot gloves or do you want guns?
19:31
SPEAKER_21: Which one, which, which, which one would you guys prefer on this?
19:34
SPEAKER_21: Civil rights advocates uh advocates protest that the federal agency's use of force during Donald Trump's immigration crackdowns already uh lacks proper oversight.
19:45
SPEAKER_21: ICE is putting these gloves in the hands of an agency that has dropped its hiring standards, its training, its background requirements, and its hiring spree.
19:53
SPEAKER_21: This is according to the Deputy Director of Government Affairs in the equality division of the ACLU.
19:58
SPEAKER_21: I expect nothing less than comments like this coming from individuals inside the ACLU and doing my research earlier this week, specifically into the training of ICE agents, as they've, you know, entered back into the news cycle.
20:16
SPEAKER_21: Yes, there were standards that were dropped in terms of the training for the new recruits that came into ICE after President Donald Trump was elected to his second term.
20:27
SPEAKER_21: First off, over half of the agents that are serving within immigrations and customs enforcement were already serving in the Biden administration and stay, have stayed in ICE since Trump took office.
20:41
SPEAKER_21: The remainder of the new hires, they did go through a streamlined process, but the way in which they pulled back on some of the training, it was all items not related to enforcement measures.
20:55
SPEAKER_21: It was things like learning, you know, another, another language, things that took a long period of time that did not have anything specific to do with regard to use of force training and those items.
21:09
SPEAKER_21: It doesn't matter.
21:10
SPEAKER_21: You're not going to get that context on the left, but that's the reality because they needed to get more ICE agents, and this wouldn't have even been necessary if it hadn't been for the fact that former President Joe Biden let in those, you know, millions upon millions of illegal aliens.
21:25
SPEAKER_21: They went on to say uh we are already seeing the consequences of that in lawless, violent enforcement actions on our streets.
21:35
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
21:36
SPEAKER_21: What's really terrifying is the use of them on the streets, potentially to terrify people, to create a chilling effect.
21:42
SPEAKER_21: That's good.
21:43
SPEAKER_21: That's a good thing.
21:45
SPEAKER_21: You want to create a chilling effect when you're going and enforcing the law to keep the bad guys from doing their bad things.
21:54
SPEAKER_21: So if the bad guys are aware that, oh, ICE agents have gloves that can again shock me.
22:00
SPEAKER_21: And it may not feel so good, then perhaps, maybe I shouldn't do my criminal activity, or I should stay out of their way and not get into an altercation as they go to do their lawful law enforcement efforts.
22:16
SPEAKER_21: Um this member of the ACLU uh further said of the gloves, there are no circumstances where we th where we think their use is appropriate.
22:27
SPEAKER_21: There's not.
22:28
SPEAKER_21: No circumstances.
22:30
SPEAKER_21: Can you use them?
22:32
SPEAKER_21: I wonder if you can use them if you needed to uh to like shock somebody back to life.
22:37
SPEAKER_21: You know, instead of the paddles.
22:39
SPEAKER_21: You know, the clear.
22:42
SPEAKER_21: You can use the gloves like that.
22:44
SPEAKER_21: I imagine listen, you know what, you know what the bigger fear of the of the uh of the ice gloves uh is, uh Isaac?
22:50
SPEAKER_21: The bigger fear is like making a mistake among your fellow like ice agents.
22:54
SPEAKER_29: Yeah, you like go to dab someone up.
22:56
SPEAKER_29: Yes, yes, yes, seriously, right?
22:58
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, yeah.
23:00
SPEAKER_21: I wonder what happens if you have two gloves that are coming together from two different people.
23:04
SPEAKER_21: Like in in the Star Wars movies, if you have like two dudes or ladies, whatever, uh using the force, right?
23:12
SPEAKER_21: You know, well, because Iron Man did it too.
23:14
SPEAKER_21: Iron Man and Iron Patriots, same thing.
23:16
SPEAKER_21: That power just kind of creates this this this pocket of power that eventually cannot be sustained and explodes.
23:22
SPEAKER_21: Or if the same thing happens with the with the shot gloves.
23:25
SPEAKER_21: Don't wash your hands with the shock gloves either.
23:27
SPEAKER_21: No, that would be better.
23:28
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, I think the danger is actually in the I think the biggest danger are the is to the ICE agents themselves making a mistake than it is to anybody in the in the general uh public.
23:38
SPEAKER_21: But uh curious to get your thoughts at 612-584-4565.
23:42
SPEAKER_21: Friend of the show, Scott has left us a uh blast on this particular topic as we uh once again guess whether or not he is uh amped up today or not in terms of his enthusiasm on the ScottConn level.
23:56
SPEAKER_21: Uh Isaac, what do you think?
23:57
SPEAKER_21: Scott Conn level five being the most uh the most excited, the one being the least.
24:02
SPEAKER_21: What's the subject?
24:03
SPEAKER_21: Uh he's talking about the Taser, the Taser gloves.
24:06
SPEAKER_29: Uh two.
24:07
SPEAKER_21: You're going with the two?
24:08
SPEAKER_21: All right.
24:08
SPEAKER_21: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go three and a half.
24:12
SPEAKER_21: I'm gonna allow for a three and a half.
24:13
SPEAKER_21: Let's see what uh see where he lands on Scott Conn.
24:16
SPEAKER_10: Good Friday morning, John.
24:18
SPEAKER_10: As somebody who went to a Citizen Police Academy and was the only person in the academy that year to volunteer to be cagered, I will tell you that if you are being catered multiple times and it is not stopping you from going after the police, I think they should take a freaking flight hammer and hit him over the head.
24:39
SPEAKER_10: So I'm all pretty gloves.
24:41
SPEAKER_10: And like you said, would you rather you haven't use a gun?
24:44
SPEAKER_10: Oh heck no.
24:45
SPEAKER_10: They would rather just have the criminal do something harmful to the police officer.
24:51
SPEAKER_10: What a bunch of boo-boos.
24:57
SPEAKER_21: There's your podcast title.
24:59
SPEAKER_21: What a bunch of boo-boos.
25:03
SPEAKER_21: Now I'm gonna split the difference and just say three.
25:05
SPEAKER_21: He was kind of he was kind of he wasn't too he wasn't too amped up this morning.
25:09
SPEAKER_21: He was he was kind of right there.
25:10
SPEAKER_21: For for Scott, right?
25:11
SPEAKER_21: You gotta you have to take into account this is Scott, and he often gets uh he often gets uh fired up.
25:17
SPEAKER_21: Let's go here.
25:19
SPEAKER_13: Happy Freedom Friday, John.
25:21
SPEAKER_13: Say, this poor soul that was that died as a result of being touched by these gloves.
25:28
SPEAKER_13: Have they released the toxicology report yet?
25:32
SPEAKER_13: Because it sounds awful.
25:34
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, again, when you go through the story here, um the device carries the brand name Glove G-L-O-V-E, obviously, which stands for generated low output voltage emitter.
25:49
SPEAKER_21: It's manufactured by Compliant Technologies, uh company owned by military veterans and based in Lexington, Kentucky.
25:56
SPEAKER_21: In one demonstration video, a man gives a brief light touch for approximately one second to the lower back of a prone volunteer who jerks his body and then cries out, Oh F word.
26:12
SPEAKER_21: I mean, he said the actual word, and even though we're streaming, I try not to engage in profanity.
26:17
SPEAKER_21: So yeah.
26:18
SPEAKER_21: I guess the point here is that it kind of stunned him.
26:23
SPEAKER_21: Compliant Technologies has posted multiple video demonstrations on its Instagram page.
26:28
SPEAKER_21: In one video, a woman wearing the glove grips firmly on the exposed forearm of a volunteer man for about two seconds.
26:36
SPEAKER_21: The man buckles to the ground shouting expletives and says, Let me go.
26:41
SPEAKER_21: It sounds like these gloves give you Tourette's.
26:49
SPEAKER_21: These sound like Tourette's gloves.
26:52
SPEAKER_21: It causes everybody to curse.
26:58
SPEAKER_29: Sorry.
26:59
SPEAKER_29: I absolutely voted for this.
27:01
SPEAKER_29: This is amazing.
27:04
SPEAKER_22: Tourette's gloves.
27:05
SPEAKER_21: Not to go and that's listen, that's although people that suffer from Tourette's have really come a long way as of late.
27:10
SPEAKER_21: There's a whole TV show.
27:12
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
27:13
SPEAKER_21: I forgot what the what the woman's name is.
27:15
SPEAKER_29: Oh, shoot.
27:16
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, I don't remember.
27:17
SPEAKER_21: But we were watching, because we wipe out on Discovery.
27:19
SPEAKER_29: Baylin out loud.
27:20
SPEAKER_29: Bailey Baylin?
27:21
SPEAKER_29: Bailey?
27:21
SPEAKER_29: Bailey?
27:22
SPEAKER_29: Bailey.
27:22
SPEAKER_29: Bailey?
27:23
SPEAKER_29: Something like that.
27:23
SPEAKER_21: Let's go with Bailey.
27:24
SPEAKER_29: Yeah.
27:25
SPEAKER_21: We watch a lot of uh well, I shouldn't say we watch a lot.
27:28
SPEAKER_21: We watch some home improvement shows.
27:30
SPEAKER_21: Um uh America's Ugliest Home or Ugliest Home in America is one that we wipe out on uh quite a bit that we that we enjoy uh that we enjoy with uh with Rita from uh from Parks and Rec.
27:41
SPEAKER_21: But they would promo because we don't pay for the for the fancy schmancy commercial free version.
27:46
SPEAKER_21: They would run the promos for the girl with Tourette's who became she was viral on social media long before she ended up getting the show.
27:53
SPEAKER_21: She got married.
27:54
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, you see that she got married, yeah, standing here at the altar.
27:58
SPEAKER_29: I watched a couple episodes of that.
27:59
SPEAKER_21: Sputtering expletives to her soon to be too soon to be husband with cinnamon involved in those expletives.
28:06
SPEAKER_21: What a weird, what a weird scenario.
28:08
SPEAKER_21: So you watch you watch some of those episodes?
28:10
SPEAKER_21: I've seen a couple of those.
28:10
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:12
SPEAKER_21: Anything, any any interesting takeaways?
28:14
SPEAKER_29: Yeah, it's kind of funny for her first couple episodes, and it's like Yeah, I would think that it would get old after a while.
28:19
SPEAKER_21: It's like uh you know that she's it's hard though when you watch it because you it it is involuntary, you know, her you know, muttering all of this profanity, but it's just so out of the norm that you can't help but go, is she re really?
28:33
SPEAKER_21: Does she cannot control this?
28:35
SPEAKER_21: It's just crazy.
28:36
SPEAKER_21: Like I'm one to talk.
28:38
SPEAKER_21: A lot of things I can't control on this show either.
28:41
SPEAKER_21: So all right.
28:42
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28:45
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28:47
SPEAKER_21: Uh coming up from RNC uh committeeman, aka Kamara, he should be in studio right around 7 o'clock.
28:53
SPEAKER_21: Also, uh Catherine Johnson and uh Grace Keating.
28:55
SPEAKER_21: Uh, we expect them to arrive uh also uh right around uh 7 o'clock.
29:01
SPEAKER_21: And uh Representative Max Reimer should be here at any moment.
29:04
SPEAKER_21: Coming up, news outlet and tells staff, this is out of Canada, not to call 9-11 a terrorist attack.
29:13
SPEAKER_21: In the meantime, the Postal Service is pushing ahead on Trump's order to limit vote by mail.
29:18
SPEAKER_21: And Trump did.
29:19
SPEAKER_21: He did something.
29:20
SPEAKER_21: I didn't think he was gonna do it.
29:21
SPEAKER_21: I thought he was just trolling, but he did.
29:22
SPEAKER_21: He signs an order.
29:23
SPEAKER_21: Trump has signed an order renaming Lake Ontario as Lake America in the United States.
29:28
SPEAKER_21: Now, Trump cannot force Canada to follow his preferred naming convention, but apparently he does have this particular um uh power.
29:35
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29:39
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29:47
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29:50
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31:15
SPEAKER_27: Think about it.
31:15
SPEAKER_27: Now that school's back in session, how are Minnesota students doing?
31:19
SPEAKER_27: Not very well.
31:20
SPEAKER_27: Minnesota ACT scores fell again last year and are the lowest they've been in 10 years.
31:26
SPEAKER_27: In fact, fewer than half of Minnesota students can either read or do math at grade level.
31:31
SPEAKER_27: Think about it.
31:32
SPEAKER_27: We used to brag about our schools.
31:34
SPEAKER_27: Now we're losing to states like Mississippi.
31:36
SPEAKER_27: Visit AmericanExperiment.org for more information.
31:39
SPEAKER_27: Think about it is brought to you by Center of the American Experiment, Minnesota's think tank.
31:44
SPEAKER_28: And now, here's commentary on the latest issues facing Minnesotans from the host, policy fellows, and guests of American Experiment.
32:00
SPEAKER_19: Now you might be wondering, is it just because these are, you know, maybe underprivileged schools?
32:04
SPEAKER_19: They don't have the funding or the resources necessary to support these kids?
32:08
SPEAKER_19: No.
32:09
SPEAKER_19: No is the answer.
32:10
SPEAKER_19: Uh, because their average per pupil spending was$19,600, nearly$20,000 per student, which is also much higher than the state.
32:19
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32:31
SPEAKER_19: There's three things to note here on this story.
32:33
SPEAKER_19: Number one, these findings came straight from data from the Minnesota Department of Education.
32:38
SPEAKER_19: Number two, the eleven schools include traditional public, magnet, and charter schools.
32:43
SPEAKER_19: And number three, grade level mathematics proficiency is measured by the Minnesota Comprehensive Assessment, the MCAs.
32:49
SPEAKER_19: I'm sure you've heard us talk about them before on this show, and they are taken by a majority of Minnesota students.
32:54
SPEAKER_19: But worth noting that almost every school on this list of 11 is in the Twin Cities metro area.
33:00
SPEAKER_19: Five of the 11 schools have had zero students per proficient in math for at least two years in a row.
33:07
SPEAKER_19: Think about it.
33:08
SPEAKER_27: Black and Hispanic students in Mississippi perform better in reading and math than black and Hispanic students in Minnesota.
33:15
SPEAKER_27: And Mississippi spends thousands of dollars less per student than Minnesota.
33:19
SPEAKER_27: Mississippi spends less money, gets better results, and their achievement gaps are closing, while ours are getting worse.
33:26
SPEAKER_27: Think about it.
33:27
SPEAKER_27: It's time for real education reform so Minnesota can catch up to Mississippi.
33:32
SPEAKER_27: Think about it as brought to you by Center of the American Experiment, Minnesota's think tank.
33:37
SPEAKER_19: People of all ages are leaving Minnesota before other states.
33:41
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, and that pushes back on that narrative that it's just, you know, retirees that are leaving Minnesota because it's too cold here when what we see are people in every single age category are leaving, even under 26-year-olds, even people in their middle age.
33:58
SPEAKER_17: It's not just the weather that's driving people out of our state, it's the bad policies.
34:03
SPEAKER_27: Think about it.
34:04
SPEAKER_27: Minnesota has always been a low crime state.
34:07
SPEAKER_27: But according to the most recent Bureau of Criminal Apprehension data, we are now above the national average when it comes to part one crimes, a category that includes crimes like murder, assault, rape, and carjackings.
34:20
SPEAKER_27: Think about it.
34:22
SPEAKER_27: Minnesota is now a high crime state.
34:25
SPEAKER_27: Visit highcrime.com to learn more.
34:28
SPEAKER_27: Think about it is brought to you by Center of the American Experiment, Minnesota's think tank.
34:34
SPEAKER_21: It's a John Justice show presented by American Experiment, and congratulations to American Experiment.
34:39
SPEAKER_21: Picked up a an award uh earlier this week that we'll talk about once we get um the rest of our Freedom Friday uh crew in.
34:47
SPEAKER_21: Um but I'll give you, listen, I'll just tell you real quick, and like I said, we'll talk about this further because uh Grace and Catherine were actually at this event.
34:54
SPEAKER_21: But Center of the American Experiment won the 2026 Bob Williams Award for Securing Durable Freedom from the State Policy Network.
35:04
SPEAKER_21: It was announced this week at the SPN annual meeting in Orlando, uh, Florida, recognizing American Experiment's work with exposing and documenting Minnesota's fraud uh problem.
35:14
SPEAKER_21: And as you'll hear in the uh acceptance uh speech um from John Hinderocker of the award, it really was Bill Glaun.
35:22
SPEAKER_21: Bill Glaun was the uh was the individual who uh has been at the forefront of fraud coverage here at Center of the American Experiment.
35:29
SPEAKER_21: So congratulations um to American Experiment.
35:32
SPEAKER_21: I kind of feel like we're congratulating ourselves, but I had nothing to do with any of that.
35:35
SPEAKER_21: So but pretty awesome.
35:37
SPEAKER_21: Pretty awesome.
35:38
SPEAKER_21: We'll talk about a little bit later on and share that uh share that audio uh coming up uh later.
35:42
SPEAKER_21: Are you bummed you didn't go now?
35:44
SPEAKER_21: No.
35:44
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
35:45
SPEAKER_21: You sure about that?
35:46
unknown: Yeah, okay.
35:48
SPEAKER_21: Hey, there's a Max Reimer in studio here on a Freedom uh Friday.
35:52
SPEAKER_21: Good morning, Max.
35:53
SPEAKER_21: Good morning.
35:54
SPEAKER_20: How are we doing?
35:54
SPEAKER_20: I'll congratulate you.
35:57
SPEAKER_20: If you need if you need an outside person to say congratulations.
36:00
SPEAKER_21: We'll take it.
36:01
SPEAKER_21: I'm not looking, I'm not looking for any for any accolades for any accolades.
36:04
SPEAKER_20: I didn't have anything to do with that.
36:05
SPEAKER_20: It is a big deal.
36:06
SPEAKER_20: I was told that fraud wasn't a real thing in Minnesota.
36:09
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
36:09
SPEAKER_21: So it's a big deal.
36:10
SPEAKER_20: Nice to know some journalistic outlet is being rewarded for the coverage.
36:15
SPEAKER_21: Uh, what are your uh what are your fair plans?
36:17
SPEAKER_21: Have you been to the fair yet?
36:18
SPEAKER_21: Not yet.
36:19
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
36:19
SPEAKER_21: Are you so let's so let me let me back up here further.
36:22
SPEAKER_21: If you weren't in office, like what would your how often would you be going to the fair?
36:28
SPEAKER_20: If I lived closer to the fair like I used to, uh just about every day.
36:32
SPEAKER_20: Oh, really?
36:33
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, I'd I'd be a big fan.
36:35
SPEAKER_20: I love the fair.
36:36
SPEAKER_20: What are you doing at the fair every day?
36:38
SPEAKER_20: Well, you know, I like to people watch, I like to visit uh the different different food stops.
36:44
SPEAKER_20: You can't go to all the places you want to eat at all in one day.
36:47
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
36:48
SPEAKER_20: I'd be I'd be going a lot.
36:49
SPEAKER_20: Maybe not every day, but if I lived closer to the metro and I didn't have kids, I didn't have other obligations, I I'd be going quite often.
36:58
SPEAKER_21: Uh, we had a couple of uh comments that rolled into the blaster line.
37:02
SPEAKER_21: Don't know if you heard the conversation we were having about the shot gloves that ICE is that ICE is using.
37:07
SPEAKER_21: Okay, yeah.
37:08
SPEAKER_21: So the ACLU is all upset about this.
37:10
SPEAKER_21: Um uh I got a comment here from friend of the show, uh Alex wants to wants to uh weigh in on that.
37:16
SPEAKER_13: Very simple.
37:17
SPEAKER_13: Leaf blanks are inexpendable.
37:21
SPEAKER_13: Uh their job to risk great bodily harm so you can safely resist the rest.
37:29
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, listen, with these shot gloves, I mean, there it's not like there's not a need for them.
37:35
SPEAKER_21: I mean, thankfully, we haven't seen the on-the-street altercations as the ice operations continue around the country like we did at the height of Operation Metro Surge, but it's not politically expedient, as we've been talking about on the show, for the left to encourage individuals to go out and do these to do these protests.
37:51
SPEAKER_21: But I mean, these shot gloves could do a lot in keeping the public at bay in the middle of these circumstances where you do have the public heading out en masse to block the effort of the efforts of uh of ISA officers.
38:05
SPEAKER_21: So I any added enforcement via technology is always going to get complaints from uh from organizations like the ACLU.
38:13
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, and I think what you have to keep in mind is you either have stuff like the shot gloves versus maybe a potential deadly weapon being used uh for crowd control.
38:23
SPEAKER_20: So when when I first heard about these gloves being used, uh it seems a little sci-fi.
38:29
SPEAKER_20: It seems like maybe it's not necessary, but I'm sure they've looked at the situations that these ICE officers get put into and have justified that these shot gloves are actually a practical application for their job.
38:41
SPEAKER_21: Let's go back to the blaster line, 612-584-4565 here on the John Justice Show on a Freedom Friday.
38:51
SPEAKER_13: So the shot gloves, or what is the taser, if you get tased that many times and clocked that many times, you've got something on board that is preventing that from happening.
39:01
SPEAKER_13: And if you're fighting with law enforcement like that, your heart can explode.
39:06
SPEAKER_13: If you're on that much mess or that much drugs, your heart is going to explode.
39:11
SPEAKER_13: Nothing to do with the electronic devices.
39:14
SPEAKER_13: And the other thing that you were talking about, lying under oath, we have never seen that in front of Congress.
39:19
SPEAKER_13: We've never seen anybody lie under oath on the left.
39:23
SPEAKER_13: Have we?
39:24
SPEAKER_13: Touche.
39:25
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
39:25
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, we have.
39:26
SPEAKER_13: Happy Freedom Friday.
39:27
SPEAKER_13: Have a good weekend.
39:29
SPEAKER_21: Listen, there is no justification for anybody lying under oath.
39:32
SPEAKER_21: But as I've mentioned, when it comes to this ICE officer, uh, this ICE agent involved in the shooting here, um, it is ridiculous the level of attention that Keith Ellison and Scary Moriarty have been giving it.
39:43
SPEAKER_21: This was all a political stunt to try to extradite him from Texas.
39:47
SPEAKER_21: The investigation is ongoing.
39:49
SPEAKER_21: They couldn't hold him any longer based off of the letter of the law.
39:53
SPEAKER_21: The dude wants to leave the country with a woman to Mexico.
39:58
SPEAKER_21: Sounds like he wants to go to Mexico.
39:59
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, it just, I mean, I so he served 90 days in jail.
40:02
SPEAKER_21: Again, if he, if it is, if it is, uh, if the conclusion is, if the verdict is, and however this investigation moves forward that he lied, he does need to be held accountable.
40:11
SPEAKER_21: But that being said, he lost his job with ice.
40:14
SPEAKER_21: He's already been in jail for three months, and he wants to basically deport himself, even though he's a legal citizen.
40:19
SPEAKER_21: So I kind of feel like the situation has remedied itself.
40:23
SPEAKER_20: ICE officer going back to Mexico.
40:26
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, just yeah, I kind of I kind of feel like I kind of feel like, you know.
40:32
SPEAKER_21: And again, this is this is when you compare it to the length of time that criminals here in Minnesota typically stay behind bars.
40:42
SPEAKER_21: This guy has already served a sentence much longer.
40:45
SPEAKER_21: 90 days is a lifetime for Minnesota fraudsters.
40:48
SPEAKER_21: And well, look at the guy that went and vandalized the Tesla for crying out loud.
40:51
SPEAKER_21: There was no disputing that.
40:53
SPEAKER_21: He actually got a pay rate on a different gig.
40:56
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, whatever.
40:57
SPEAKER_20: You're right, though.
40:58
SPEAKER_20: Uh, Keith Ellison does need things to run on.
41:01
SPEAKER_20: And so you'll see this be used as an example of a way, the way that he took on the Trump administration because he can't run on his own record.
41:08
SPEAKER_20: His record's awful.
41:10
SPEAKER_20: So what he needs to do is he needs to create a bunch of boogeyman, and that's what his entire campaign is going to be about, as it has been the last two times he's run.
41:18
SPEAKER_21: I would love to see the uh Max.
41:20
SPEAKER_21: I would love to see the internal polling for the AGs race.
41:24
SPEAKER_21: Because I know that the that the polling that's been released shows it's all tied up.
41:28
SPEAKER_21: I usually go, if it's all tied up, then more than likely Ron Schutz has a bit of a has a bit of a a lead, because I'm not putting a lot of stock in these.
41:35
SPEAKER_21: But the fact that it's tied up at all in the polling speaks volumes as to how competitive that race is and more specifically how vulnerable Thief Ellison is.
41:45
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, I think when you look at the public polling, what we have to go off of is Keith Ellison's ceiling is 44-45%, because Ron Schutz is a guy who's going to build his name ID over the course of the next couple of months, but that 45-44% represents Keith Ellison's ceiling.
42:02
SPEAKER_20: Everyone knows who Keith Ellison is, and nobody likes the guy.
42:06
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
42:06
SPEAKER_21: Let's go uh here to the blaster line of 612-584-4565 on a Freedom Friday.
42:12
SPEAKER_21: We're here from another uh friend of the show talking about Trump and renaming of the lake.
42:17
SPEAKER_13: Man, I am so disappointed.
42:18
SPEAKER_13: I thought it was a troll, but you're saying Trump actually did sign the order with Lake America?
42:24
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, I'm I'm disappointed in the Don.
42:27
SPEAKER_13: I mean America at least deserves the best lake.
42:31
SPEAKER_13: And that would be Lake Superior.
42:33
SPEAKER_13: So apparently he doesn't think America deserves the best.
42:37
SPEAKER_13: So we're gonna be second re I I just disappointed.
42:44
SPEAKER_21: When I saw the uh when I saw the initial comment, I thought they were they were just upset that Trump had renamed it, but now I understand his point more.
42:50
SPEAKER_21: He just is upset that it was good on that particular lake.
42:54
SPEAKER_21: Can you imagine if he had if he had attempted to go and rename Lake Superior Lake America?
43:00
SPEAKER_20: Because he's right.
43:01
SPEAKER_20: The blaster is right.
43:02
SPEAKER_20: Who cares about Lake Ontario?
43:04
SPEAKER_20: I never think about that lake.
43:07
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
43:07
SPEAKER_20: Lake Superior is the superior lake.
43:10
SPEAKER_21: So let me play the audio.
43:12
SPEAKER_21: So this was uh first off, I have uh Trump from yesterday um talking about making it official, signing the order to rename uh Lake Ontario.
43:20
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna be changing the name of Lake Ontario, effective immediately to Lake America.
43:26
SPEAKER_01: That's gonna take place right now as I signed the order.
43:29
SPEAKER_01: We have a gulf and we have a lake.
43:32
SPEAKER_01: Now all we need is an ocean.
43:35
SPEAKER_21: He wants the trifecta.
43:37
SPEAKER_21: This was a little promo the White House had put out yesterday in response to this.
43:41
SPEAKER_21: He wants the trifecta.
43:42
SPEAKER_21: Now he wants he wants an ocean.
43:44
SPEAKER_21: Which ocean do we rename?
43:46
SPEAKER_20: What do you Well, I saw a meme that America Ocean?
43:50
SPEAKER_20: The American Ocean.
43:52
SPEAKER_20: I saw a meme that was uh hilarious where it was like Trump is signing an executive order to rename the entire world, and it's like the USA is America.
44:00
SPEAKER_20: Canada is North America, South America is South America, and then like Europe and beyond was East America and Russia and beyond was West America.
44:09
SPEAKER_20: It was like don't tempt us, don't tempt him.
44:12
SPEAKER_21: Listen, um, if it's in my view on this, by the way, because I thought he was trolling.
44:17
SPEAKER_21: I didn't think he was actually gonna get gonna do it, but he did yesterday.
44:21
SPEAKER_21: Um, so my my my take on this is that if the POTUS has the power to rename these geographical locations, which he does, then why not?
44:31
SPEAKER_21: If you don't like it, I'm not saying Max, I'm just saying or anybody listening to the show or watching or watching the show.
44:37
SPEAKER_21: If you don't like it, then you know contact your congressman or or woman and tell them that you wanted to take that power away from the president.
44:43
SPEAKER_21: But if the president has the power to go and rename this stuff, I don't really have much of an issue with it.
44:47
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, the reason I don't put much stock into it, frankly, is because these will all be things that God forbid a Democrat get back into the presidency.
44:56
SPEAKER_20: All this stuff is being undone anyway.
44:58
SPEAKER_20: It's like we get this four years of fun, you know, and that that lake is going back to Ontario.
45:04
SPEAKER_20: No, it'll go to like Lake DSA.
45:06
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
45:07
SPEAKER_21: Lake Democrat Socialist Commie Lake.
45:10
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
45:10
SPEAKER_21: That's what it'll end up turning into.
45:11
SPEAKER_21: That's what it'll be.
45:12
SPEAKER_21: So uh last night, this was during oh, this was Al Michaels.
45:16
SPEAKER_21: Preseason football yesterday.
45:18
SPEAKER_21: Uh the Browns versus New England.
45:19
SPEAKER_21: I have no idea.
45:20
SPEAKER_21: Anyone in anybody know who won?
45:21
SPEAKER_21: Anybody care?
45:22
SPEAKER_21: For preseason football.
45:25
SPEAKER_20: Al Michaels is a huge liberal, though.
45:26
SPEAKER_21: No, we didn't get.
45:27
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, well, he was not happy.
45:28
SPEAKER_21: He was not happy about the renaming of the lake.
45:30
SPEAKER_21: This is what he had to say during the broadcast last night on Amazon.
45:33
SPEAKER_00: Lake Erie, we think it is still called Lake Erie on the right.
45:36
SPEAKER_00: We're not quite sure at this point.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:39
SPEAKER_00: But we'll be by Lake something like Ontario or whatever it's gonna be called by the time we get to Buffalo.
45:45
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, you know what I'm talking about.
45:46
SPEAKER_00: Some of you do.
45:47
SPEAKER_00: Some of us do.
45:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
45:50
SPEAKER_00: We go news.
45:51
SPEAKER_00: Hassan Hassan.
45:53
SPEAKER_21: He's in the middle of a game.
45:54
SPEAKER_21: But look, and I will say, he's in the middle of a preseason game, so I'm not gonna Yeah, you gotta find stuff to talk about.
45:59
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, I'm not gonna begrudge him too much on that, but it's pretty funny that he uh he simply couldn't, he couldn't, he couldn't let it go.
46:05
SPEAKER_20: Speaking of the NFL, I don't know if you guys covered this story earlier in the week, but the Washington Redskins are the Washington Commanders in order to keep their trademark.
46:14
SPEAKER_20: Okay, they need to commercially sell some products with the Washington Redskins logo in order to hang on to it.
46:22
SPEAKER_20: Okay.
46:22
SPEAKER_20: So they released some merchandise with the old Washington Redskins logo on it to keep, again, the trademark active.
46:28
SPEAKER_20: They want to kill it, but they don't want other people to be able to use it.
46:31
SPEAKER_20: Apparently, that merchandise sold out within like 10 hours or eight hours.
46:38
SPEAKER_20: Just completely sold out of all of their revamped Washington Redskins material.
46:44
SPEAKER_20: Do we know what the items were?
46:46
SPEAKER_20: I'll have to look it up in our break, but yeah, just hilarious and predictable.
46:52
SPEAKER_20: And of course, all the liberal sports journalists were just outraged that people would go and buy this merchandise.
46:58
SPEAKER_20: But yeah, Washington Redskins brought back their logo to keep it active and sold out of everything hours.
47:05
SPEAKER_21: I have so many jokes of the items that they could have placed that logo on that I am just not even gonna say.
47:12
SPEAKER_21: Okay, I've got so many ideas of what they could have put that logo on.
47:18
SPEAKER_21: That's incredible.
47:19
SPEAKER_21: That's incredible.
47:20
SPEAKER_21: Amazing story.
47:21
SPEAKER_21: And by the way, that whole thing has always, always driven me nuts.
47:25
SPEAKER_21: This, the, the, the argument on down the line from the from the from the Ant Jemima to the Lando Lakes to the and I always said that if the Redskins, if the Washington Redskins issue went the way of those looking to take advantage of the controversy, right?
47:44
SPEAKER_21: Because that's what this is.
47:45
SPEAKER_21: This is not this massive outcry coming from the Native American community.
47:50
SPEAKER_21: These are all, you don't name these particular products in these sport teams because you hate the naming convention.
47:58
SPEAKER_21: You're not doing it to disparage them.
48:00
SPEAKER_21: You're doing it to pay homage or to honor or to look at history.
48:04
SPEAKER_21: And yet the left has gone and twisted it into this, oh, it's not politically correct, from a bunch of people that aren't even aligned with whatever the controversy is.
48:14
SPEAKER_21: So I always said that if the Washington Redskins were to fall, that you would see the dominoes fall.
48:18
SPEAKER_21: It actually happened in reverse.
48:19
SPEAKER_21: I think you saw all the other ones, like the Lando Lakes and the Ant Jemimo one.
48:24
SPEAKER_21: Um, those ones fell first, and it was kind of the Redskins that ended up happening last.
48:28
SPEAKER_20: Well, the Redskins, it was like a 30-year-long process that finally they acquiesced during that that must have happened in 2020 or they're in, you know, because that was when woke 1.0 was reaching a fever pitch in 2020 and 2021.
48:44
SPEAKER_20: But what I will just say is that it's an indicator that normal people still want their country back, okay?
48:54
SPEAKER_20: Because when the Redskins were the Redskins, nobody thought twice about it, to your point, John.
48:59
SPEAKER_20: It was an aspirational thing.
49:01
SPEAKER_20: When you have a naming convention or a mascot, when somebody represents a fearsome nature or it's something to be admired, that's what the Redskins were.
49:12
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
49:12
SPEAKER_20: No matter where the name came from, that's what it became.
49:15
SPEAKER_20: And for this merchandise, you you guys can go look up the story, but the merchandise sold out within hours, which just again indicates to me normal people just still want their want a country they can recognize.
49:29
SPEAKER_21: On a long enough timeline, like if either of my boys, and I'm not encouraging either of them to do this, by the way, but if either of my boys decided to say get into talk radio, you know, or to being a talk host, um, I couldn't I can envision on a long enough timeline where they would be doing a show and talking about how the left is making it a thing that minority groups are not represented on everyday products and sports teams.
49:54
SPEAKER_21: That's just that that that is the inevitable outcome, is that you go and you do all this political correct, all this woke uh washing of uh you know any minority groups from any products or sports teams and just wait.
50:06
SPEAKER_21: When it suddenly becomes advantageous for the left to go and spin it the other way, they absolutely absolutely will.
50:12
SPEAKER_21: And we've seen this happen with other circumstances before.
50:14
SPEAKER_20: It's been said before, too.
50:15
SPEAKER_20: I mean, if we're talking about racial caricatures and that's what we're concerned about, well, guess what?
50:21
SPEAKER_20: Our Minnesota sports team has a pretty significant racial caricature.
50:27
SPEAKER_20: The fighting Irish, yeah, where you got the little Irish man with his dukes up.
50:33
SPEAKER_20: I mean, the what are we doing?
50:36
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
50:36
SPEAKER_21: I thought you were gonna say Vikings there for just a moment.
50:38
SPEAKER_21: I thought that's right.
50:38
SPEAKER_20: No, no, no.
50:39
SPEAKER_20: I am saying the Vikings.
50:40
SPEAKER_20: Oh, okay.
50:41
SPEAKER_20: Those were two different two different comparisons.
50:43
SPEAKER_21: Gotcha, gotcha.
50:44
SPEAKER_21: All right, let's go here um to the uh to the blaster line this morning, a 612-584-4565 question for you, Max.
50:51
SPEAKER_04: John, I've got a question for Max this morning.
50:54
SPEAKER_04: A couple weeks ago, he has a picture when he was in the car with a Max Member.
50:59
SPEAKER_04: Is that real?
51:00
SPEAKER_04: Is that AI?
51:02
SPEAKER_04: What is his connection?
51:03
SPEAKER_04: Would love to know.
51:06
SPEAKER_20: Great question.
51:07
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, so back when I was uh helping run the governor campaign in 2022 with Scott Jensen and Matt Burke, Ennis Cantor, Ennis Freedom came to Minnesota to come and speak on their behalf in Minnesota.
51:20
SPEAKER_20: We did a speaking tour, and I got to chauffeur Ennis Cantor Freedom, your newest WNBA star, apparently, around the Twin Cities.
51:28
SPEAKER_20: And I actually had to borrow a friend's car because I did not have a car that could accommodate him.
51:33
SPEAKER_20: That's real.
51:34
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
51:35
SPEAKER_21: Did you have any uh did you have any did you have a conversation with Ennis?
51:39
SPEAKER_21: He wasn't a big talker.
51:40
SPEAKER_21: Not a not a not not a not a chatty guy.
51:42
SPEAKER_21: Was that the most famous person you've ever you've ever driven around?
51:46
SPEAKER_20: I don't think you can think of maybe.
51:48
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, yeah.
51:49
SPEAKER_20: Driven around for sure, had a conversation with probably not.
51:54
SPEAKER_20: Oh, good for me.
51:55
SPEAKER_20: But uh, yeah, no, he at the time he was battling uh both the Turkish government and China.
52:02
SPEAKER_20: Like he made those two things his big political fights.
52:05
SPEAKER_20: It's what kind of got him in the arena politically.
52:08
SPEAKER_20: So we talked a little bit about that, and Ennis at the time really discussed with me the fact that he couldn't go back home, that he basically had family in jail for taking a stance against uh against his home, his home country's government, and he couldn't go back home.
52:23
SPEAKER_20: He could never go back home, and that's a lot of what we talked about, but not a big talker.
52:27
SPEAKER_21: I uh I'm trying to think of the who so the first the I'm trying to think of uh who was the most famous person I ever drove.
52:36
SPEAKER_21: So I know so the first thing that pops into my head, which again is gonna be completely lost on the Gen Z or to my right.
52:42
SPEAKER_21: Um, but I think Max, you'll know.
52:44
SPEAKER_21: I drove the band Fuel in my car once.
52:46
SPEAKER_21: Great band.
52:47
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, yeah.
52:47
SPEAKER_21: Hemorrhage in my hands for food.
52:50
SPEAKER_29: Yeah, there you go.
52:52
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, good stuff.
52:53
SPEAKER_20: Love that, love that band.
52:55
SPEAKER_21: I drove those guys in my uh 94 four-door white Honda Civic to the venue when they were I was working for a rock station.
53:03
SPEAKER_21: I want to say that I drove John McCain someplace at one point.
53:07
SPEAKER_21: I do want to say that I had him in the car and we ended up driving from the radio station to an event or from the event to the radio station.
53:14
SPEAKER_21: I'm not 100% sure on that.
53:16
SPEAKER_21: I was pretty tight with John McCain, though.
53:17
SPEAKER_21: He came down, he came on the show all the time.
53:20
SPEAKER_20: Didn't you like piss him off one time or he was?
53:24
SPEAKER_20: No, no, I'm thinking of the other Arizona politician who turned who was conservative, turned moderate.
53:30
SPEAKER_20: You've told the story.
53:31
SPEAKER_20: Oh, right, who oh, Rodney Glassman, who I drove out of out of uh Southern Arizona.
53:35
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
53:35
SPEAKER_21: There you go.
53:35
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, he kept switching.
53:36
SPEAKER_21: He did it again, by the way.
53:37
SPEAKER_21: So he he started as a Republican.
53:40
SPEAKER_21: His dad owned an ice rink in Tucson that failed, which you would think would be really successful.
53:44
SPEAKER_21: Wow, an ice rink in Tucson, you you would think, because it's stupid hot there, but it wasn't.
53:48
SPEAKER_21: It failed.
53:49
SPEAKER_21: Uh he ran as a Democrat for the longest time, actually ran as a Democrat against John McCain one year and lost.
53:58
SPEAKER_21: Yes.
53:59
SPEAKER_21: And then at one point he left and went to Phoenix.
54:02
SPEAKER_21: And I'm not even kidding you, he went on another radio station and partly blamed me.
54:06
SPEAKER_21: See, this is what I'm talking about.
54:08
SPEAKER_21: For him being driven out of out of uh out of out of Arizona.
54:11
SPEAKER_21: And then I think now he's running for Arizona Attorney General as a Republican again.
54:17
SPEAKER_21: Why not?
54:18
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
54:18
SPEAKER_21: He just his political finger, he just is what I'm gonna do.
54:20
SPEAKER_20: Imagine being so desperate, like so desperate to stay in power, to stay in politics.
54:26
SPEAKER_20: Like I was thinking about Charlie Christ.
54:28
SPEAKER_20: Okay, so that guy in Florida, right?
54:31
SPEAKER_20: Where he was like the top dog for a while.
54:33
SPEAKER_20: I don't know if he was governor or U.S.
54:35
SPEAKER_20: senator, but I was looking at his political trajectory.
54:38
SPEAKER_20: This may have even been a guy who tried to run for president.
54:41
SPEAKER_20: Charlie Christ, I believe is his name in Arizona.
54:44
SPEAKER_20: Okay, you know who I'm talking about, right?
54:46
SPEAKER_20: So if you look, he like ran in a competitive uh statewide election, worked his way down, lost to Ron DeSantis in 2020 by 20 points, or no, it's 2022 lost by 20 points, and now he's running, he's like shrunk down to the point where he's running for like a local mayor election.
55:08
SPEAKER_29: It's like such a loser.
55:09
SPEAKER_29: Why professional loser?
55:11
SPEAKER_29: Why be in politics?
55:14
SPEAKER_22: Well, look at Minnesota DFL and you know Nicole Mitchell.
55:17
SPEAKER_21: She's now running for what Premier City Council now after uh Woodbury.
55:22
SPEAKER_21: Woodbury, sorry, Woodbury City Council.
55:24
SPEAKER_20: So it's like you don't need to be in politics forever.
55:28
SPEAKER_20: Like go discover another talent, take up painting and do something else.
55:35
SPEAKER_20: You don't need to be in that's certainly my philosophy.
55:38
SPEAKER_20: Hey, take up painting.
55:39
SPEAKER_20: Is that your philosophy?
55:40
SPEAKER_20: Maybe, maybe.
55:42
SPEAKER_20: All right, hey, if one day I don't get re-elected, then guess what?
55:46
SPEAKER_20: I'm not gonna go like try to hunt for other offices to run for.
55:50
SPEAKER_20: I will become a pro wrestler.
55:52
SPEAKER_21: Well, I can't believe it, but we're already into our two here on the John Justice Show.
56:16
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56:20
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56:26
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56:30
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56:34
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56:39
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56:56
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56:58
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57:05
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57:12
SPEAKER_21: Let's go and uh hear from uh another friend of the show on a Freedom Friday.
57:16
SPEAKER_33: Hey, I am wondering if you got or not to uh Coyote versus Acne from the theater at least as a fact.
57:27
SPEAKER_33: We can live in the theater.
57:28
SPEAKER_33: Um I thought it was a really good movie.
57:31
SPEAKER_33: I think Coyote was harmed by Aki Catapult.
57:37
SPEAKER_33: They can go really fast.
57:41
SPEAKER_33: Exploded.
57:42
SPEAKER_33: So um he has been harmed and he finds a lawyer.
57:47
SPEAKER_33: Coyote does, and he brings Acne to court.
57:50
SPEAKER_33: It's a really good movie, and I'm wondering if you guys have seen it.
57:53
SPEAKER_21: Uh I have not seen it yet, but they are Raquel is a very big fan because she also emailed me asking me that question, uh, that question as well.
58:00
SPEAKER_21: No, I have not seen it.
58:01
SPEAKER_21: I did go to the movies yesterday, and I'll talk about that in just a moment.
58:03
SPEAKER_21: Uh, Representative Max Reimer, have you seen, have you seen, uh, have you seen the uh the new uh Coyote versus Acme movie?
58:09
SPEAKER_20: I have not yet.
58:10
SPEAKER_20: Okay.
58:10
SPEAKER_20: However, this is one of those movies as I saw the previews that I'm gonna try to get my two oldest boys to before school starts.
58:17
SPEAKER_20: Okay.
58:18
SPEAKER_20: It looks one, the whole concept of coyote being wronged and then hiring an attorney to sue Acme, that sounds like some straight up 1980s on cocaine in the Hollywood mansion idea that finally came to fruition.
58:35
SPEAKER_20: And I'm here for it, but that's what it seems like to me.
58:38
SPEAKER_20: I think it's a a classic American tale of hiring an attorney to sue a big company.
58:43
SPEAKER_21: Well, my next question is first off to Isaac and uh Grace Keating has joined us on a Freedom Friday.
58:48
SPEAKER_21: Uh Coyote versus Isaac to you, Coyote versus the Roadrunner.
58:51
SPEAKER_21: Is there any reference point at all?
58:52
SPEAKER_29: Like, yeah, I know the coyote versus the roadrunner.
58:54
SPEAKER_29: You do, okay.
58:55
SPEAKER_29: Yeah, okay, the old cartoon.
58:56
SPEAKER_29: Right.
58:56
SPEAKER_21: Okay, so you are aware of it.
58:58
SPEAKER_21: But I I was not aware that he hired an attorney.
59:00
SPEAKER_21: Grace Keating, back from your trip from uh from Florida.
59:03
SPEAKER_21: First off, Coyote versus the Roadrunner.
59:05
SPEAKER_21: Are you familiar with the cartoon?
59:07
SPEAKER_19: Yes.
59:07
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
59:08
SPEAKER_21: Were you did you know there was a movie?
59:09
SPEAKER_19: No, extremely confused.
59:11
SPEAKER_19: So hiring an attorney?
59:14
SPEAKER_21: So in the cartoon, all the products that the coyote uses when going after the roadrunner end up failing.
59:20
SPEAKER_19: Oh my gosh.
59:20
SPEAKER_19: Okay, I get it.
59:21
SPEAKER_19: Funny, yes.
59:22
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, the concept is actually brilliant.
59:24
SPEAKER_21: So he hires a lawyer, and it's one of these mixed live action animations.
59:28
SPEAKER_19: Like a space jam.
59:29
SPEAKER_21: Yes, 100%.
59:30
SPEAKER_21: Exactly.
59:31
SPEAKER_21: Okay, I was having a real hard time.
59:32
SPEAKER_19: I was thinking, is this like a gritty, like live action version of coyote?
59:37
SPEAKER_21: That would be pretty awesome, though.
59:38
SPEAKER_21: No, it's a combination, just like you, just like you mentioned.
59:40
SPEAKER_21: No, it looks good.
59:41
SPEAKER_21: I want to go see it.
59:42
SPEAKER_20: And I think Will Forte is his attorney, and then John Cena is the corporate attorney.
59:48
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
59:49
SPEAKER_21: I went and saw uh uh Kyle and uh and Melinda and I went out and saw the dog stars uh yesterday.
59:56
SPEAKER_21: You guys familiar with it?
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SPEAKER_21: At all.
59:58
SPEAKER_21: Um Melinda did not like it.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_21: I enjoyed it, and Kyle enjoyed it.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_21: Um it was a bit of a slow burn.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_21: Basically, what you saw in the trailer was kind of the movie.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_21: It was a best-selling novel.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_19: I hate movies like that.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_19: That is my biggest critique.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_19: Yeah.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_19: If I sit down and I watch a trailer and I leave the trailer saying I don't need to see the movie now, that's a problem.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_21: I was thoroughly entertained.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_21: I wasn't waiting for it to end.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_21: It ended up being more of a love story than it was anything else.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_21: The only question I have about it, and then we can move on to more relevant items, um, was I don't know how I was kind of walked away going, how is this a best-selling novel?
1:00:31
SPEAKER_21: Because there wasn't a lot to it.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_21: The only thing I can think of is they must have pared down some of the stuff in it.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, but it's like a post-apocalyptic.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, so a virus has swept across the across the planets, killed the majority of the population.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_21: So this young guy lost his wife, and it's just him and his dog, and uh and Brolin living out in the middle of the Rockies, just trying to survive, but he's longing for more.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_21: He's like, there has to be more out there than just this life of survival.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_21: So it's he just happens to conveniently end up in a circumstance where his plane's not but not operating, he has to put it on the ground, and he ends up right next to uh Margaret, uh, Margaret Quali and her her uh her dad, uh Guy Pierce.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_21: So, like if you're gonna go and have your plane crash in the middle of the Rockies and you're gonna end up meeting Margaret Quali, it's not a bad deal.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, she's she's a good looking guy.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, she's she's she's kind of she's kind of she's kind of fetching.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_20: So I enjoyed it.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_20: That concept sounds like a movie that's been done a hundred times, though.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, it wasn't there wasn't any breaking any nigga.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, no, yeah.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_21: It was uh like I said, Melinda didn't care for it.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_21: Kyle and I both uh both uh enjoyed it.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_21: Uh all right, let's go here as we uh wait the rest of our group to arrive in preparation for the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_21: That is insane to me.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_21: So were either of you, so either of you were you born?
1:01:48
SPEAKER_21: I was alive.
1:01:49
SPEAKER_19: I was also alive.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_29: Okay, barely you were you were barely alive.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_19: One month alive.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_29: I was two days away from turning one.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_29: Okay.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_19: That's crazy.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_29: Oh my heavens.
1:01:59
SPEAKER_29: That's crazy to me, man.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_29: I know.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_20: Oh, you are because I'm gonna be around.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_20: I was sixth grade.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_21: So I was doing a morning rock, I was doing a morning uh rock show in Riverside San Bernardino at at uh X103.9 when it happened.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_21: I've told the story uh a bunch, but that's just I can't believe it's been 25.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_20: Yo, they they wheeled the TVs into our classroom to like watch the events unfold.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_03: Goodness.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_03: My dad did that.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_29: My dad was my both my parents were teachers, and my dad did that.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_29: He's a PE teacher.
1:02:29
SPEAKER_29: Yeah, and it was like that, like he rolled the T.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_29: I think that was a regular thing.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_20: Like you're witnessing something terrible in history happening before you, and like I it was Miss Redenz's actually was fifth grade is social study social studies class.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_20: And I remember like being like, oh, the plane, the people on the plane are fine because everyone's got an eject button on the plane.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_20: That's what fifth grade Max thought.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_21: Well, in preparation for the 25th anniversary, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation sent a memo to its staff with instructions on how to refer to the terrorist attacks, but specifically to not call the events terrorist attacks.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_21: Do not refer to the September 11th attacks as terrorist attacks, according to the memo.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_21: The hijackings led to passenger jet crashes in Washington, D.C.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_21: Pennsylvania and Manhattan, the World Trade Center, WTC, in second reference, was destroyed.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_21: So you had a conservative member of Canadians Parliament that was upset about this, obviously.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_21: Uh Senator Mike Lee out of Utah, he reacted on X saying maybe we shouldn't call Canada a friendly country.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_21: In a statement defending the outlet, the CBC director in Canada, the public affairs director, uh Kerry Kelly pointed to a 2023 editor's blog that argues using the labels like terrorist attacks would make the outlet appear less impartial.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_21: This is it's just it's listen, the left is essentially allowing radical jihadists to carry influence over their commentary.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_21: And I'm convinced it's because they believe that they're part of their political ideological ranks.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_21: And so therefore they can't be offensive uh to them.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_21: But make no mistake, as we've been talking about on the show this week.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_21: I mean, that those particular radicals, they will come for the the left party in Canada or America.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_21: It is just a matter of time.
1:04:21
SPEAKER_21: But uh Grace, we can start with uh you.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_21: You seem the most stunned by all of this right now.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_19: That is despicable.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_19: That is disgusting.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_19: I was kind of on the fence about the whole Lake Ontario thing.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_19: I was like, that's kind of dumb.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_19: Yes, yes, we should rename it.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_19: Screw you, Canada.
1:04:37
SPEAKER_19: What the heck?
1:04:39
unknown: Am I wrong here?
1:04:40
SPEAKER_21: No, you're not wrong at all.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_21: Listen, it was just a matter of time until the leftist media made it official.
1:04:45
SPEAKER_21: Because they were already doing this, anyways.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_21: They've been leaning this direction to downplaying.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_21: The fact that they're even talking about 9-11, I think, is actually a testament in and of itself because you don't even get that much anymore.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_21: So this doesn't surprise me.
1:04:58
SPEAKER_21: It's not right by any stretch.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_21: And again, it downplays just what I mentioned.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_21: You are catering to the most radical of radical jihadists.
1:05:05
SPEAKER_21: RNC committeeman A.K.
1:05:07
SPEAKER_21: Kamara is now uh sitting on the comfy sofa here in the American Experiment Studios.
1:05:11
SPEAKER_21: What are your thoughts on this, sir?
1:05:12
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, I mean, this is par for the course.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_23: This is how the left looks at everything to do with America, even looking at like colonial powers, which has always been so fascinating to me that Canada, they technically are still under a monarchical system.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_23: Yes, they do have representatives and premieres and everything like that, but technically they're part of like the British crown.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_23: But I will say that with the Marxist, anti colonial, anti American, anti empire doing that thing with my fingers, yeah, they're going to downplay acts like terrorism that are justified by the terrorists.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_23: Like, if you go back and you look at the scrawlings and writings of Osama bin Laden, like he had all of these grievances.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_23: And there are legitimately people that think that he was in the right to strike back at the heart of the American Empire that we did this to ourselves.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_23: So it's not surprising to me at all.
1:06:10
SPEAKER_23: And I'm with you, Grace.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_23: Like, let's change everything that has to do with Canada just to show them that we're the big dogs.
1:06:18
SPEAKER_23: Like you're getting a little bit too much, like, you know, base in your voice when you're talking to us.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_23: And I just think that it's it's just this is the world that we live in.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_23: The left, they truly side with terrorists.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_23: Yeah.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_23: That's the reality as long as it's politically expedient for that.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_21: Of course.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, absolutely.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_23: You know, they'll they'll use whatever means necessary, but that's why we have to push back like never before if we want to keep a country.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_20: Uh Max Reimer, you have some uh thoughts on this?
1:06:45
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, uh two things, right?
1:06:47
SPEAKER_20: The fact that Justin Trudeau was dating Katie Perry popped into my head.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_20: That's that's wild.
1:06:53
SPEAKER_20: I forgot about that.
1:06:54
SPEAKER_20: Isn't that crazy?
1:06:55
SPEAKER_20: Are you still together?
1:06:55
SPEAKER_20: Oh, yeah.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_20: I don't know.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, they are thinking.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_20: Yep.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_20: But former prime minister who basically all right, we got to confirm from Isaac.
1:07:03
SPEAKER_21: It's odd how much I because and formerly, and I can't believe I know this.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_21: Formerly, she was dating Orlando Bloom.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_21: Oh yeah, for sure.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_21: She's got a good roster.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_19: I mean, come on.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_21: I know.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_21: I I got a big crush.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_21: Legolas fan.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_21: Legolas fan of Pirates.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_21: Pirates of the Caribbean, come on.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_19: I mean, yeah.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_21: Oh, that's true too.
1:07:20
SPEAKER_19: Peak, peak cinema.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_21: Actually, you score bonus points for going Pirates of the Caribbean over Lord of the Rings.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_21: So have you.
1:07:25
SPEAKER_21: I know both equally.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_21: I just don't think he's like as good as a blonde.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_21: Nicely done.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_21: So sorry, Max, we completely stepped on it.
1:07:33
SPEAKER_21: So what's really important.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_23: What's really important is uh Justin Trudeau is dating Katie Perry.
1:07:38
SPEAKER_23: That's the first thing that reminded you of.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_23: It's just showing.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_20: No, it was just thinking about this.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_20: Was a guy who It seems like a terrorist attack.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, I mean, he basically is a terrorist.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, but this is a guy who shut down his country, basically destroyed the economy, and was as hard line on COVID as you could possibly be.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_20: For all intents and purposes, was a monarch for a couple of years.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_20: And now it's like he's going to Coachella with Katy Perry.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_21: And by the way, we you hear this term a lot.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_21: And we're going to get into this a little bit later on.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_21: So I'm getting ahead of myself.
1:08:07
SPEAKER_21: I have a uh I have a story uh here in the uh in the stack.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_21: I gotta pull, I gotta pull through it.
1:08:13
SPEAKER_21: We have Gen Z slang words, uh slang words that used to have wildly different uh meanings.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_21: So we're gonna get into that a little bit later on.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_21: Looking forward to that.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_21: That'll be fun.
1:08:21
SPEAKER_21: But we you you see often, it's usually attached to um, oh, who is the Christopher Nolan uh the actress who who used to be Juno and Ellen or uh Elliot Page.
1:08:35
SPEAKER_19: Elliot Page.
1:08:35
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, yeah, Ellen Page, Elliot Page.
1:08:37
SPEAKER_21: So they do the side by sides of when you know, when she was looking like a female versus now not looking like a female, and they say this is what the left took from us.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_21: You use you see that, you see that terminology a lot, right?
1:08:49
SPEAKER_21: The same thing rings true with Katy Perry.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_21: I remember being a Katy Perry fan when she first arrived on scene, and it was like, wow, this is gonna be like a like a hip alternative jewel.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_21: She's gonna I really enjoyed her music, and then she just took a dark turn, man, and now she's just a wack-a-odle.
1:09:03
SPEAKER_20: You know, Katy Perry got her start in Christian music.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_20: Yes.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_20: Yep.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_20: And probably should have left.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_20: Now I think is uh about as anti-Christian as the possibly being.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_21: So that's what the devil.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_21: So I guess it's not the left took took her from it's the devil took her.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, no, I mean it's kind of the same thing, though.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_21: Okay, let's just be super clear.
1:09:21
SPEAKER_23: The left is like firmly associated with satanic, uh, you know, anti-Christian, anti-god themes.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_23: Like just the simple fact of when you like really dig down into the minutiae of critical theory in general.
1:09:38
SPEAKER_23: It's about rejecting all of these structures that have created the modern American supremacy that exists or colonialism.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_23: And all that really is rooted in Christianity, right?
1:09:49
SPEAKER_23: Like the founding of this nation, about all of our founders talking about how they believe that you need to have this connection with God and Christianity, you know, all of these different aspects of the founding of our nation goes hand in hand with what has now become overtly right wing.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_23: And it's not because like we wanted it to be that way.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_23: It'd be nice to live in a country where you can have difference of how you solve problems without being like everything that you represent and the foundations of your entire movement were against.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_23: But yeah, like legitimately, when you see all of the Satanist, you know, monuments and all of the little statues that they put at all the state capitals, those are all supported by Democrats.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_21: I want to go back to the Canadian removing terrorists uh from uh from reference when talking about the 9-11 attacks.
1:10:39
SPEAKER_21: Uh, because there's a there's a direct correlation to also what's happened here in America with the rise of the Islamist DSA candidates that have been, you know, cropping up across the country and winning these primaries or actually winning seats.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_21: Like they almost have to change this terminology in order to give the media a free pass to not go and address this issue when it comes up on 9-11.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_21: Because I think we can all agree there's no way on God's Green Earth that any of these candidates aligned with Islam are going to be asked their thoughts on 9-11 when we get near the anniversary.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_21: So this is just an extension of that up to Canada.
1:11:16
SPEAKER_21: And I wouldn't be surprised if we saw outlets here, maybe not being as vocal, but behind closed doors, saying, hey, don't mention the word terrorist when we're talking about the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_20: And I'll I'll just say, too, we've talked about him before on the show, but this Hassan Piker, who's a mainstream left podcaster at this point, where he is campaigning with DSA candidates.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_20: He's a huge fan of Tim Walls.
1:11:40
SPEAKER_20: And Hassan Piker is on record of saying we deserve 9-11.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_20: 100%.
1:11:45
SPEAKER_20: And you have candidates that are more than eager to campaign with this guy.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_20: And you also have other Democrats now who are backtracking and saying we disavow, we disavow, we disavow.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_20: This is probably the voice on the left right now, at least the younger left, saying that America deserved uh 9-11.
1:12:03
SPEAKER_21: Grace, I think we've talked about this.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_21: Uh I think we've talked to you about this before, but um, I mean, how much was 9-11 brought up when you were going to to school?
1:12:12
SPEAKER_21: Do you even recall uh how much it was a it was a topic going through?
1:12:16
SPEAKER_21: I mean, whether it was grade school or whether it was it was college?
1:12:19
SPEAKER_19: I I don't know.
1:12:19
SPEAKER_19: I feel like it came up regularly every single year um on the anniversary, and you'd talk about it in school and you'd hear about it on TV.
1:12:27
SPEAKER_19: And yeah, I feel like it was very present culturally when I was growing up.
1:12:31
SPEAKER_19: Isaac, how about you?
1:12:32
SPEAKER_29: Yeah, same.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_29: I remember like being kind of like fascinated by it just because like I would I like every anniversary, like I would watch, you know, on the History Channel or like whatever, I'd watch the documentaries or this, you know, people telling the stories about it.
1:12:47
SPEAKER_29: And yeah, I think I think it was.
1:12:49
SPEAKER_29: But maybe that was just kind of I went to a private school.
1:12:51
SPEAKER_29: So gotcha.
1:12:52
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, was you were were you're public or were private.
1:12:54
SPEAKER_21: You were private.
1:12:55
SPEAKER_21: Okay, so you were private.
1:12:56
SPEAKER_21: Okay, so that makes a little bit more sense as well.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_21: All right.
1:12:58
SPEAKER_21: 612-584-4565.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_21: That isn't uh the number.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_21: If you want to leave us a blast this morning, you can email john.justice at americanexperiment uh.org.
1:13:08
SPEAKER_21: Let's go uh back to the blaster line this morning and hear from a friend of the show.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_21: Speaking of uh Gen Z.
1:13:15
SPEAKER_13: Speaking of Gen Z vernacular, I recently learned from my college sophomore that's.
1:13:22
SPEAKER_13: Oh, you know what?
1:13:22
SPEAKER_21: We're gonna stop that right there.
1:13:25
SPEAKER_21: Before we go any further.
1:13:26
SPEAKER_21: I don't, yeah, I'm yeah, no.
1:13:29
SPEAKER_21: Uh-oh.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_21: No.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_21: I'm just, you know, I'm making, I'm just, I'm making a I'm making a programming call.
1:13:33
SPEAKER_21: I could probably get away with this on streaming, but at the same time, I'm not exactly sure what the reference is.
1:13:37
SPEAKER_21: I'm just gonna blow right past it.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_21: Let's go and give uh let's give a friend of the show, Eric.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_21: He uh he kicked off in the first hour leaving a comment, but we'll uh hear from him again soon.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_13: You know, every time we go into one of these Canada stories, I just hear Robin Williams singing that song from South Park, Blaine Canada.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, you know, fiction becomes reality again.
1:13:58
SPEAKER_21: Thank you for that, Eric.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_21: And uh we now have our full uh House uh seated.
1:14:03
SPEAKER_21: So we have uh RNC committee man, aka Kamara, Representative uh Max Reimer, Grace Keating, and now Catherine Johnson has joined us as well.
1:14:10
unknown: Good morning.
1:14:12
SPEAKER_17: Good morning.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_21: How was your guys' trip, by the way?
1:14:15
SPEAKER_21: We'll talk about this a little bit later.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_21: We're gonna get into the award that American Experiment received just after eight o'clock.
1:14:20
SPEAKER_21: But how was the uh Catherine?
1:14:22
SPEAKER_21: How was the trip?
1:14:22
SPEAKER_17: It was good, it was very good.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_17: Um, we meet up once a year with people from the State Policy Network, which is basically like groups all over the country that are sort of like American Experiment, but in different states.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_17: And it's a good opportunity to see what people are doing in other states and what we could do here in Minnesota.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_17: Um, and it was it was fun.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_17: One downside is it's like one of these conferences, you don't totally leave the hotel like ever.
1:14:45
SPEAKER_17: But the time I did leave the hotel, I was walking around the grounds and they had an owl.
1:14:51
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
1:14:52
SPEAKER_17: That's the whole story, but it was really cool.
1:14:54
SPEAKER_17: They had an owl.
1:14:54
SPEAKER_17: They had an owl.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_17: Did you see that?
1:14:56
SPEAKER_17: I did.
1:14:57
SPEAKER_17: You did?
1:14:58
SPEAKER_17: Okay.
1:14:58
SPEAKER_17: It was so cool.
1:14:59
SPEAKER_17: They had like an in-house owl.
1:15:01
SPEAKER_22: Who who had an owl?
1:15:03
SPEAKER_17: The Ritz Carleton of Orlando, which is actually like a connecting property.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_17: We were like in the Marriott that connected to it.
1:15:11
SPEAKER_17: So I went for a little walk and found I just stumbled upon an owl, which is pretty cool.
1:15:16
SPEAKER_17: Like, if I had a hotel, maybe I would also have one.
1:15:19
SPEAKER_21: So this wasn't like a this wasn't a uh a freestanding owl.
1:15:22
SPEAKER_21: This was like an owl that was a part of the Ritz-Carlton.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_19: This is like property of the Ritz club club kids' club.
1:15:27
SPEAKER_19: They have like a kids' club raptor and owl guy.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_19: Because I saw, I saw pretty sure it's a hawk at one point.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_19: And I was asking the staff, like, why is there a falconeer like out with his Yeah, you guys aren't gonna believe this?
1:15:40
SPEAKER_20: I experienced the same thing at a conference in Phoenix, Arizona.
1:15:44
SPEAKER_20: There was an owl guy.
1:15:46
SPEAKER_19: What is what is an owl guy so far behind the time screen?
1:15:49
SPEAKER_20: I have a picture of me standing next to this gentleman with a big old owl on his his arm and me being dumb.
1:15:56
SPEAKER_20: I was like, can I hold it?
1:15:57
SPEAKER_20: And he was like, No, you need one of these, otherwise, this owl will basically like take your arm off.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, yeah.
1:16:02
SPEAKER_23: No, that very sharp talons.
1:16:05
SPEAKER_23: Okay.
1:16:05
SPEAKER_23: Now, was it like the Harry Potter?
1:16:07
SPEAKER_17: No, it was like a speckled owl.
1:16:11
SPEAKER_17: And it was quite cool.
1:16:11
SPEAKER_17: And then I started taking a picture of it and it put its little face down and glared at me like really intensely.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_20: I bet this was the same guy.
1:16:18
SPEAKER_20: This is probably a traveling show because he did the same thing.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_21: Were you at a Ritz Carleton?
1:16:23
SPEAKER_21: I can't remember what the hotel was.
1:16:25
SPEAKER_21: I wonder if the owl's name was Carlton.
1:16:27
SPEAKER_17: Oh gosh, I hope so.
1:16:28
SPEAKER_21: We're answering the tough questions.
1:16:30
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, sorry.
1:16:31
SPEAKER_17: I didn't mean to totally derail, but that was one of my favorite parts.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_21: Did not have owl on my bingo card for Freedom Friday this morning.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_21: So interesting.
1:16:39
SPEAKER_21: Well, I'm glad you guys had a good time.
1:16:40
SPEAKER_17: It was delightful.
1:16:41
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, but this guy could like give this owl a command and he would like plop down and give you like this face for a selfie.
1:16:47
SPEAKER_20: They probably have like a little shot collar on it.
1:16:49
SPEAKER_21: I would imagine this probably you know that's probably all the owl could do.
1:16:53
SPEAKER_21: I mean, they're not they're kind of very confined.
1:16:54
SPEAKER_21: I would imagine, you know, almost like 360 degrees.
1:16:57
SPEAKER_21: Well, they can do okay.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_21: So they can do that and they can turn and they can do selfies.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_21: Yep.
1:17:01
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
1:17:01
SPEAKER_21: And then if you're in Harry Potter, they can deliver mail.
1:17:03
SPEAKER_21: Uh-huh.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_21: But apparently, this is really, really well.
1:17:06
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
1:17:07
SPEAKER_21: Let's go here.
1:17:08
SPEAKER_21: Speaking of delivering mail, the U.S.
1:17:10
SPEAKER_21: Postal Service implemented the Trump administration policy restricting the mail and voting, requiring states to send the voter rolls to the federal government and deliver ballots only to voters matching federal citizenship data.
1:17:21
SPEAKER_21: This is key when it comes to the audio I'm going to share here in a moment.
1:17:25
SPEAKER_21: Uh, the controversial rule, challenged by two dozen Democrat states and voting rights groups, increases federal government involvement in elections, and the Justice Department defended the rule, claiming it only improves the USPS infrastructure and has minimal impact on the state election administration.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_21: So the uh the United States Postal Service is already moving forward on some of these uh on some of these rule changes, which is uh great news.
1:17:48
SPEAKER_21: However, uh Kamala Harris, haven't heard from her in a while.
1:17:52
SPEAKER_21: Oh boy.
1:17:52
SPEAKER_21: Uh, she had some comments, posted a video online uh yesterday.
1:17:56
SPEAKER_21: Now, before I play the audio, I just want to somebody did the math for me so I didn't have to.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_21: This is 47 seconds, and they counted.
1:18:05
SPEAKER_21: There were 15 jump cuts in this video for 47 seconds of audio.
1:18:12
SPEAKER_19: Release the unedited version.
1:18:14
SPEAKER_19: Come on.
1:18:15
SPEAKER_21: How drunk was she?
1:18:18
SPEAKER_21: She's just a horrible.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_21: It's 47 seconds.
1:18:21
SPEAKER_21: I mean, I'll give you a take or two, but you can do when you hear the commentary, you can do this in one take.
1:18:26
SPEAKER_21: There's no reason why.
1:18:27
SPEAKER_21: You don't even have to be like a host.
1:18:29
SPEAKER_21: You're a politician, you're used to speaking in front of people.
1:18:31
SPEAKER_21: One take 15 jump cuts to get this.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_12: He votes by mail from Mar-a-Lago, but he doesn't want you to vote by mail.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_12: Everybody, just this week, the United States Supreme Court backed up the president's agenda.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_12: He's trying to make it more difficult for you to vote by mail.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_12: By the way, he votes by mail from Mar-a-Lago, but he doesn't want you to vote by mail because he knows you're paying attention.
1:18:55
SPEAKER_12: The context is so important.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_12: Gas prices are up, food prices are up.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_12: He got us in a war that the American people don't want, and he is worried he is going to lose the midterms.
1:19:07
SPEAKER_12: We are two months away from the midterms.
1:19:09
SPEAKER_12: Get out and vote.
1:19:10
SPEAKER_12: Let's get everyone out to vote.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_12: They are cheating, they are trying to cheat, and we have got to turn out in big numbers and be too big to rig.
1:19:18
SPEAKER_12: I'll see you out there.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_30: Just feeling all of it.
1:19:21
SPEAKER_29: I have to I have to jump in here.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_29: As the video editor here at American Experiment, I feel so bad for her video editor because, like, we'll do videos here and like we'll do four or five takes.
1:19:31
SPEAKER_29: Sure.
1:19:32
SPEAKER_29: It's such a pain.
1:19:34
SPEAKER_29: And for 15 cuts, that's in for a 40 whatever second video.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_29: 47 seconds.
1:19:39
SPEAKER_29: Insane.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_29: Like we film videos all the time around here.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_29: No one takes more than like four.
1:19:46
SPEAKER_29: It's insane.
1:19:47
SPEAKER_21: And when you watch the video itself, too, you can see like when it cuts, she's in a different spot.
1:19:52
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
1:19:53
SPEAKER_21: Like she's kind of doing, kind of doing this.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_21: So uh I'll just share my my quick thought.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_21: We can go around the room on her comments.
1:19:59
SPEAKER_21: So when she talks about she doesn't want you to vote, the only people that she can be referring to are individuals that are not eligible to legally go and vote.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_21: That's it.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_21: This could a point's gonna be lost on most people watching it.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_21: But um uh Catherine uh Johnson, uh, your thoughts on uh on Kamala Harris and her jump cut video.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_17: Well, it's very interesting that we she just adopted all of the same talking points.
1:20:18
SPEAKER_17: I mean, they spent how many years freaking out about Trump's too big to rig?
1:20:22
SPEAKER_17: They called it the big lie.
1:20:23
SPEAKER_17: They called it a, and then, you know, of course, once again, uh the Democrats are questioning the security of our elections.
1:20:30
SPEAKER_17: It almost seems like this is a bipartisan issue, and Congress should pass the SAFE Act or something like that.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_17: I don't know.
1:20:37
SPEAKER_21: By the way, just really quick, a friend of the show lawyer, um James Dickey just sent over.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_21: I guess that judge has now temporarily blocked key parts of the new mail-in ballot rules.
1:20:49
SPEAKER_21: This was the judge that put the block in in the first place and then rescinded the block saying that she couldn't do anything because the Supreme Court ruled the way that it did.
1:20:56
SPEAKER_21: And now allegedly she's gone and put in new blocks on this.
1:21:01
SPEAKER_21: I wasn't aware of this until James and the Black Black.
1:21:03
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, last night at like, I don't know, 9:30, uh, her ruling came back, which is just insane.
1:21:10
SPEAKER_23: Like, I was thinking about this when I when the story first broke.
1:21:13
SPEAKER_23: The Supreme Court already made an initial determination, and now this again, district federal judge is going and saying, Well, I'm making this ruling.
1:21:23
SPEAKER_23: So there's gonna be a showdown of district federal judges versus the Supreme Court.
1:21:29
SPEAKER_23: Now, I get from a technical standpoint, there's certain aspects of what her initial ruling was that she's making a new ruling on, but it's stupid.
1:21:38
SPEAKER_23: It's very, very clear the president has within a certain scope and limitation the ability to say we're not doing universal mail-in ballots.
1:21:47
SPEAKER_23: Because that's what we're talking about here.
1:21:49
SPEAKER_23: The idea that you just spam blast every person that could or could not be legally registered to vote at a specific location.
1:21:57
SPEAKER_23: You just blast them with a bunch of ballots, and only the legal ones will turn them in is insane.
1:22:04
SPEAKER_23: Like I think that the the RNC and Chairman Gruders has an amazing message out there.
1:22:08
SPEAKER_23: We want to make it easy to vote and hard to cheat.
1:22:12
SPEAKER_23: That's what Republicans want to do.
1:22:13
SPEAKER_23: Democrats want to make it easy to cheat and hard to prosecute.
1:22:17
SPEAKER_23: That's literally the difference between the two.
1:22:20
SPEAKER_23: So it's I think universal mail in ballots is insane.
1:22:23
SPEAKER_23: And the fact that this judge is now going up against the Supreme Court, the one thing that I've noticed, the Supreme Court does not take lightly to lower courts trying to overrule them.
1:22:33
SPEAKER_23: Even the crazy liberals on the bench.
1:22:35
SPEAKER_23: So I think they're gonna come out and be like, no, stop this.
1:22:38
SPEAKER_21: Before I go back to the blaster line at 612-584-4565, uh, Max and uh Andorra Grace, you guys have uh thoughts on on uh on the ruling or the comments from Kamala Harris?
1:22:49
SPEAKER_20: I'll just say with that Kamala Harris clip, if it's her again, if we have to run against her again in 2030, I don't know if I can take that voice for a year and a half.
1:22:59
SPEAKER_20: I know.
1:23:00
SPEAKER_20: That's if for no other reason, I hope the Democrats put up a different candidate just so I don't have to listen to that regularly.
1:23:08
SPEAKER_20: That was wild.
1:23:09
SPEAKER_19: Marolonga.
1:23:10
SPEAKER_19: No, it is it is astounding when you have these politicians who have kind of fallen out of the public focus and they just pop their little gopher heads up every now and then.
1:23:19
SPEAKER_19: And then the the take that they are giving you is so poorly spoken and so unhinged.
1:23:26
SPEAKER_19: And this is such a perfect example of that.
1:23:28
SPEAKER_19: This is the first time I've heard Kamala Harris speak in quite some time, and it's 47 seconds of wandering nonsense, and she's practically slurring words when she says Mar-a-Lago.
1:23:38
SPEAKER_19: This is the foot she's putting forward to the American people after not having heard from her in some time.
1:23:43
SPEAKER_19: I kind of hope that she's the nominee.
1:23:45
SPEAKER_19: I kind of want to do this again.
1:23:46
SPEAKER_23: I just want to say that the thing that's most fascinating, just like think of the current state of the Democrat Party.
1:23:52
SPEAKER_23: If they actually could get their stuff together and present like a coherent message of the things that they stand for, not just like anti-just everything Trump does is bad, then we might actually be really concerned.
1:24:05
SPEAKER_23: I personally am not that concerned.
1:24:07
SPEAKER_23: Um, I think that as long as we continue to tell people to get out and vote, like they're gonna change this state and change this country if they get power back.
1:24:14
SPEAKER_23: But it is so disjointed, and they've really defaulted to let's run on issues that were holding basically like the Maha and Mega coalition together, and we're just gonna needle all those points as though the people that would be, you know, I guess maybe off of the bandwagon are suddenly gonna look at the Democrats and say, Yeah, like let's give the communists power again.
1:24:37
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, it's just insane because look at all the points that she hit and making it too big to rig.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_23: Like, I know that some of it's tongue in cheek, and we're in the you know, social media trolling era of of the United States in American politics, but like I think she's serious.
1:24:54
SPEAKER_23: Oh, I do too.
1:24:55
SPEAKER_23: And I think she's drunk in that.
1:24:56
SPEAKER_23: Uh-huh.
1:24:57
SPEAKER_23: I uh just just to be clear.
1:24:59
SPEAKER_21: Complete side note.
1:25:00
SPEAKER_21: Most people aren't even gonna know this band at all, but it completely threw me off.
1:25:04
SPEAKER_21: Are you are any of you familiar with the band Ghost?
1:25:06
SPEAKER_21: No.
1:25:07
SPEAKER_21: No?
1:25:07
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
1:25:08
SPEAKER_21: Anyone?
1:25:08
SPEAKER_21: No, all right.
1:25:09
SPEAKER_21: So this is just an alternative group, rock group.
1:25:12
SPEAKER_21: They uh they're one of these anonymous groups, kind of they do kind of a kiss thing, right?
1:25:15
SPEAKER_21: Oh, sure, sure.
1:25:16
SPEAKER_21: They have a they have a movie coming out, it's on IMAX, but it's called Too Big to Rig.
1:25:21
SPEAKER_21: I thought it was some political thing.
1:25:23
SPEAKER_21: I'm like, what is this?
1:25:24
SPEAKER_21: About the election?
1:25:25
SPEAKER_21: What is it going on?
1:25:26
SPEAKER_21: I go, oh, it's the band Ghost.
1:25:28
SPEAKER_21: I just Okay.
1:25:28
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, like I said, you know what?
1:25:30
SPEAKER_21: I'm fascinating.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, yeah.
1:25:32
SPEAKER_21: Fascinating to talk to.
1:25:34
SPEAKER_21: All right, this talkback's better than that commentary.
1:25:36
SPEAKER_11: Good morning, John, and Friday King rigged in Virginia.
1:25:39
SPEAKER_11: Remember, uh, I think Hillary was the one that really started this, but Obama perfected it.
1:25:45
SPEAKER_11: Whatever any huge Republicans are doing, they're already doing it and probably perfected it.
1:25:51
SPEAKER_11: Kamal Harris is not relevant.
1:25:54
SPEAKER_21: I mean, I heard um, I saw a story yesterday that apparently um she's having trouble um uh sort of attaching herself to any other to any other candidates.
1:26:04
SPEAKER_21: Like, like, like the those on the left do not want to associate associate with her.
1:26:08
SPEAKER_20: Yes, I saw that uh with I think it's in Michigan, in Iowa, and a couple of other states where Kamala Harris is offered to come campaign for these candidates, and one by one, all these candidates are saying, absolutely not.
1:26:22
SPEAKER_20: Don't don't come near my state.
1:26:24
SPEAKER_21: We had a uh we had a ha we had a uh comment that rolled into the blaster line uh regarding owls.
1:26:29
SPEAKER_15: Good morning, Freedom Friday crew.
1:26:31
SPEAKER_15: Um, nobody probably cares about this, but I just think it's so weird because I don't typically see owls anymore.
1:26:38
SPEAKER_15: Okay, you know, you guys talking about your owl fighting just last weekend um we were sitting on a desk in the library, and this huge owl came flying by and perched on the corner of the peak of the neighboring house and just sat there and looked around.
1:27:00
SPEAKER_15: Which is no take-home message there.
1:27:02
SPEAKER_15: I just think it's funny that what's the deal with all the owls?
1:27:06
SPEAKER_21: I think uh, you know, actually, I think that's a sign that the GOP is gonna do really well this November election.
1:27:11
SPEAKER_21: I agree.
1:27:11
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, I agree.
1:27:12
SPEAKER_17: Did she say he didn't leave a message?
1:27:15
SPEAKER_17: No, she did not.
1:27:16
SPEAKER_21: No, she said she said that she says um she she has no take-home message.
1:27:23
SPEAKER_17: Oh, I thought she was like, unfortunately, he had no school.
1:27:28
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, he usually leaves messages with waiting for him to address me.
1:27:33
SPEAKER_21: Maybe he had something profound to say, you know, is uh okay.
1:27:38
SPEAKER_21: Does the eld show up and offer pearls of wisdom?
1:27:41
SPEAKER_21: You know?
1:27:42
SPEAKER_19: Yeah, it was a delightful talk back.
1:27:43
SPEAKER_23: It was like I was always afraid of owls because of the secrets of Nim uh cartoon.
1:27:48
SPEAKER_23: Oh, yeah, with like the spooky owl that's like winter or whatever.
1:27:54
SPEAKER_23: No, that that that's a fantastic kids' cartoon from like what had to be like early 80s.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_23: But I watched it when I was probably like six, seven, and eight.
1:28:03
SPEAKER_23: It holds together it super well, but it's kind of scary.
1:28:06
SPEAKER_23: Oh, yeah, it's terrifying.
1:28:07
SPEAKER_23: It's got like some some uh some real adult themes in there, but it's still great animation.
1:28:13
SPEAKER_20: I love that blast just because I I love to acknowledge that you see these majestic things in nature.
1:28:21
SPEAKER_20: And I just gotta say, seeing an owl like that just come up and perch and it's this massive bird.
1:28:28
SPEAKER_20: Sorry, I'm getting a little crunchy here on today's show.
1:28:32
SPEAKER_20: It's amazing.
1:28:33
SPEAKER_21: I'm glad you are though, because you you bring up something that I've actually been thinking about for a while.
1:28:39
SPEAKER_21: I'm not even kidding.
1:28:39
SPEAKER_21: I've been thinking about for a while.
1:28:41
SPEAKER_21: You need to, Max, do like a like deep thoughts with Max Reimer.
1:28:46
SPEAKER_21: I see the posts that you do online and you go down these very just sort of thoughtful, meditative little rants about everyday life.
1:28:55
SPEAKER_21: And I feel like people here in Minnesota could could glean something from deep thoughts with Max because Max Rimer.
1:29:02
SPEAKER_20: Life is beautiful.
1:29:03
SPEAKER_20: Life is amazing.
1:29:05
SPEAKER_17: Well, I think that's a good idea.
1:29:06
SPEAKER_20: I just brought Harvey out real quick.
1:29:08
SPEAKER_20: I I brought Harvey out to Lake Millachs for a fishing trip before he went goes to school next week.
1:29:14
SPEAKER_20: And just being up there to the to the blaster's point, when you see this owl perched on the house, Harvey and I got to see so many bald eagles just sitting there staring at us.
1:29:24
SPEAKER_20: And I was like, you know what?
1:29:26
SPEAKER_20: That is so cool.
1:29:28
SPEAKER_20: Did they have any messages for you?
1:29:29
SPEAKER_20: They did not.
1:29:30
SPEAKER_20: Well, yeah, yeah.
1:29:31
SPEAKER_20: Vote Republican.
1:29:32
SPEAKER_19: This is so wholesome.
1:29:34
SPEAKER_17: Well, I just feel like it's a commentary on America, too.
1:29:36
SPEAKER_17: Like we have this cool, beautiful country.
1:29:38
SPEAKER_17: You don't have to go that far to see incredible wildlife and things like that.
1:29:42
SPEAKER_21: Just Orlando, Florida.
1:29:43
SPEAKER_17: Just apparently.
1:29:45
SPEAKER_17: They have them in the country.
1:29:46
SPEAKER_21: The natural habitat of owls.
1:29:47
SPEAKER_21: And Woodberry.
1:29:49
SPEAKER_21: And Woodberry.
1:29:50
SPEAKER_21: All right, let's go here.
1:29:52
SPEAKER_21: So uh Alpha News, uh Mahamud Hassan Mahamed.
1:29:58
SPEAKER_21: God bless you.
1:29:58
SPEAKER_21: 24 years.
1:30:00
SPEAKER_21: 24 years.
1:30:05
SPEAKER_20: Good Swedish name that.
1:30:07
SPEAKER_22: Now I feel like I gotta start over.
1:30:08
SPEAKER_22: No.
1:30:09
SPEAKER_21: Okay, this 24-year-old was charged with fourth degree damage to property after stealing and destroying an American flag at an Edina property.
1:30:17
SPEAKER_21: He was already facing a felony charge of threats of violence, has a history of traffic-related convictions, uh, and a recent DWI event.
1:30:24
SPEAKER_21: So he stole the American flag from a property in Edina on Wednesday morning, dragged it behind his vehicle before he was chased off by bystanders, returned to the property the same afternoon, and then shredded the flag.
1:30:34
SPEAKER_21: This is according to messages received by Crime Watch at Minneapolis.
1:30:38
SPEAKER_21: And as I mentioned, he has been taken into custody.
1:30:41
SPEAKER_21: This is what I'm if you have any thoughts, you feel free to share them, Freedom Friday crew.
1:30:46
SPEAKER_21: But I just wanted to add something.
1:30:47
SPEAKER_21: I want this jerk interviewed.
1:30:49
SPEAKER_21: I want to know why he did it.
1:30:50
SPEAKER_21: I want to know what motivated him or if he's just an a-hole.
1:30:53
SPEAKER_21: You know, just like who member has been vandalizing the cards and the cars in downtown Minneapolis.
1:30:58
SPEAKER_21: Can we have a media that shows a little bit of curiosity to get into the background of why these individuals are doing these stupid things to find out if they're politically motivated or if they're just doing it because they because they can?
1:31:10
SPEAKER_21: Like why would the I I genuinely want to know why this guy would do something like this.
1:31:15
SPEAKER_20: Well, you'll you'll probably hear from him, not from the media, but on a podium next to Mary Moriarty when he's presented with a Minnesota Medal of Freedom after he gets out of jail because that's what she's gonna do for him.
1:31:26
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, I mean, I think you don't have to think too hard about it.
1:31:29
SPEAKER_23: Uh, it's pretty straightforward.
1:31:31
SPEAKER_23: There's been this growing sentiment by American Muslims um that America's an awful place.
1:31:38
SPEAKER_23: So yeah, I'm not surprised to see like a younger, you know, uh Muslim kid slash young man that just wants to show his hatred of this country.
1:31:49
SPEAKER_23: And that's that's to me the the most obvious reason.
1:31:52
SPEAKER_23: And and it's sad because I think that this country has so many amazing values to offer.
1:31:59
SPEAKER_23: All you have to do is just like look around and be like, oh man, I'm glad I'm not like in Mogadishu right now, like pooping in a street and like, you know, having to fight off like Al Shabazz terrorists or whatever.
1:32:11
SPEAKER_23: But yeah, I mean that's I think it's not just hijinks.
1:32:14
SPEAKER_23: It's a kid that clearly hates the country that has given him so much.
1:32:17
SPEAKER_21: Well, and and it's not just it's not just uh individuals and you know, immigrants from the Muslim community either, to your point.
1:32:23
SPEAKER_21: The the Jake Lang protest that took place, the guy that was riding by on his bike that I don't think was part of any of what was going on, and he happened to have an American American flag headband just hanging out of the backpack.
1:32:35
SPEAKER_21: And the the fascist Antifa uh members there that were protesting against Lang descended upon this guy and almost beat him up before he was able to sort of to sort of escape.
1:32:45
SPEAKER_21: So maybe, maybe you're right.
1:32:46
SPEAKER_21: I just would like a little bit of curiosity to find out what is what his motivation is.
1:32:50
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, I think something about this uh connects to what we were talking about earlier with the anniversary of 9-11.
1:32:55
SPEAKER_17: I think there are moments that, you know, our country has come together and had real surges of patriotism, and we haven't had that in a long time.
1:33:01
SPEAKER_17: And I certainly learned about 9-11 and and you know the kind of hatred that other countries and other people have for us because we have it so good here in America.
1:33:11
SPEAKER_17: But I don't know that people, now that we've gotten this far out, are getting that message when they're going through school.
1:33:18
SPEAKER_17: And so I think, yeah, we have a lot of young people um in Gen Z who just do not have the right reverence for um the values of America.
1:33:26
SPEAKER_21: All right, let's talk a little Minnesota State Fair.
1:33:29
SPEAKER_21: Oh, yes.
1:33:30
SPEAKER_21: I need Catherine's gonna be excited about this.
1:33:33
SPEAKER_21: So are you going?
1:33:34
SPEAKER_21: So, first off, so you got you guys, uh Catherine and Grace, you both got back yesterday.
1:33:38
SPEAKER_17: Yes.
1:33:38
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
1:33:38
SPEAKER_21: Catherine, are you going to the fair today?
1:33:40
SPEAKER_17: Not today.
1:33:41
SPEAKER_17: I'm going tomorrow for the fair.
1:33:42
SPEAKER_21: Okay, yeah, we're all gonna be there tomorrow.
1:33:44
SPEAKER_21: So uh and uh Center of the American Experiment will be there.
1:33:47
SPEAKER_21: Uh Dan Patch area.
1:33:48
SPEAKER_19: Is that what we're calling?
1:33:49
SPEAKER_19: Dan Patch Park.
1:33:49
SPEAKER_19: Dan Patch is the official name.
1:33:50
SPEAKER_19: Yes.
1:33:51
SPEAKER_21: I still can't get it right.
1:33:51
SPEAKER_19: Just south of the grandstand.
1:33:53
SPEAKER_19: There we go.
1:33:53
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, the grassy part by the grandstand.
1:33:55
SPEAKER_21: Uh I'll be there from one uh from eleven until one.
1:33:58
SPEAKER_21: So who here is gonna be there during that period of time of the Freedom Friday crew?
1:34:02
SPEAKER_19: Me.
1:34:02
SPEAKER_21: Okay, Catherine Grace, are you gonna be there during that time?
1:34:04
SPEAKER_19: I am actually quite devastated to say that I can't be there tomorrow.
1:34:07
SPEAKER_19: Oh my gosh.
1:34:08
SPEAKER_19: I am buying a house this weekend.
1:34:09
SPEAKER_19: Oh, congratulations.
1:34:10
SPEAKER_19: Some other things to attend to.
1:34:12
SPEAKER_19: But very, very sad to be here.
1:34:14
SPEAKER_19: Well, congratulations.
1:34:15
SPEAKER_19: Thank you.
1:34:15
SPEAKER_21: What kind of owl population?
1:34:17
SPEAKER_21: Did you find an owl popular uh you know an owl friendly area?
1:34:22
SPEAKER_19: I've not seen any owl sightings yet, but I will certainly update the videos now as soon as that happens.
1:34:27
SPEAKER_19: All right.
1:34:28
SPEAKER_23: Max, you're gonna be there.
1:34:29
SPEAKER_23: Nope.
1:34:29
SPEAKER_23: Nope.
1:34:30
SPEAKER_23: Not gonna be there either.
1:34:31
SPEAKER_23: AK, you're gonna be there.
1:34:32
SPEAKER_23: I am gonna be at a wedding in Hayward, Wisconsin.
1:34:35
SPEAKER_23: Shout out to Ivory Hector's.
1:34:37
SPEAKER_18: Woo! My mom's hometown.
1:34:40
SPEAKER_18: Shout out Hayward.
1:34:41
SPEAKER_23: Go to Hayward.
1:34:42
SPEAKER_23: The Hackers.
1:34:43
SPEAKER_23: Strong logging family.
1:34:45
SPEAKER_23: Yeah.
1:34:45
SPEAKER_23: With uh plenty of pro-America.
1:34:47
SPEAKER_23: Like they're the Hacker family is like the most pro-America family.
1:34:50
SPEAKER_23: That like a couple of the kids are named like Patriot and Freedom and stuff like that, but yeah.
1:34:54
SPEAKER_21: Well, I hear that the local sports team there in Hayward has an owl as their mascot.
1:34:58
SPEAKER_21: So that's what I heard too, man.
1:35:00
SPEAKER_21: That's a total lie.
1:35:01
SPEAKER_21: So Catherine, it's just it's just it's just us then, I guess.
1:35:03
SPEAKER_21: So local.
1:35:04
SPEAKER_17: Well, yeah, everyone still turn up.
1:35:06
SPEAKER_17: I mean, come on.
1:35:07
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
1:35:07
SPEAKER_21: No, come on out.
1:35:08
SPEAKER_21: So I bring all this up because I got a couple of fair-related items to uh to uh talk to you guys about this morning on a Freedom Friday again.
1:35:14
SPEAKER_21: Catherine Johnson, Grace Keating, uh, Max Reimer, and A.K.
1:35:16
SPEAKER_21: Kamara.
1:35:17
SPEAKER_21: And we'll get to uh more of your thoughts.
1:35:19
SPEAKER_21: Uh open uh open to on and off topic comments at 612-584-4565.
1:35:25
SPEAKER_21: So the Republican Party of Minnesota announced Wednesday that it hired off-duty police officers to provide security at its state fair booth.
1:35:34
SPEAKER_21: That announcement comes as concerns about safety at the Minnesota State Fair have increased in recent days.
1:35:39
SPEAKER_21: It's dovetailing off of the uh the gang lawsuit, the muddy in the veil that we've been talking about for the past three weeks.
1:35:49
SPEAKER_21: Um, you had the Minnesota GOP chair uh Alex Plekish said, because of the increase of political violence, potential threat from rival gangs, the Minnesota Republican Party has hired an off-duty law enforcement officers to protect our staff, volunteers, candidates, uh, everyone who visits the booth.
1:36:04
SPEAKER_21: So, first off, do we think that there was anything else beyond that and there was more internal threats that they're hearing about, or do you think it was just because of the of the gang issue?
1:36:12
SPEAKER_21: I'm kind of looking at AC.
1:36:14
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, yeah, you can look at me.
1:36:15
SPEAKER_23: I am a member of the state executive committee for the Republican Party of Minnesota.
1:36:18
SPEAKER_23: And um, last year, I think after the Charlie Kirk assassination, right?
1:36:23
SPEAKER_23: I I think that there was this kind of growing idea of like, well, if if we don't uh really do the best to make sure that our volunteers are protected, um, what's that gonna look like?
1:36:36
SPEAKER_23: So again, last state fair was before the Charlie Kirk assassination, and we already had a bunch of like the the No Kings folks who were coming up.
1:36:43
SPEAKER_23: We had multiple people, there was a viral video of a guy that refused to leave, and then he fought with an off-duty cop, and then he was fighting with a state fair cop.
1:36:51
SPEAKER_23: So the conversations are like we should probably have something.
1:36:54
SPEAKER_23: Um, but again, this same deranged pro-violence leftist movement.
1:37:00
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, I they've been stopping by the booth already on the first day and shouting things.
1:37:06
SPEAKER_23: Tom Evanstead ended up arrested.
1:37:09
SPEAKER_23: I mean, the Spider-Man.
1:37:12
SPEAKER_23: Like, just think about for a second.
1:37:13
SPEAKER_23: Like, honestly, the DFL's not doing the same thing.
1:37:16
SPEAKER_23: That kind of shows that there is a pro-violent side to the left in the state of Minnesota.
1:37:23
SPEAKER_23: And I'm not saying every, you know, you know, run-of-the-mill, card-carrying Democrat, DFL voter.
1:37:29
SPEAKER_23: Of course, I'm not talking about you, but there is an embrace of violence.
1:37:33
SPEAKER_17: I would.
1:37:33
SPEAKER_17: I think I would go farther than that because I look back at when I was a kid and you know, they had flip and flop outside the state fair booth.
1:37:41
SPEAKER_17: Does anyone remember this?
1:37:41
SPEAKER_17: I think it was Nick Erickson.
1:37:43
SPEAKER_17: I think it was for the carry election.
1:37:46
SPEAKER_17: I think it was about him.
1:37:47
SPEAKER_17: And one of them got beat up on his walk back to his car.
1:37:50
SPEAKER_17: And so I think that there is something about, you know, we like to think about Minnesota as Minnesota nice and all these things, but there's a violent element to the Democrats in this state, I mean, maybe this country in general, but there's a violent element that has always been there.
1:38:04
SPEAKER_17: And you look at the way they have embraced radical revolutionaries and things like that as well.
1:38:08
SPEAKER_17: Um, it's not that surprising.
1:38:10
SPEAKER_17: And I'm glad they're getting security.
1:38:11
SPEAKER_17: Every time I've been at the MNGOP booth, I've had a great experience, but I've many times had people just walking by who will shout something derogatory.
1:38:20
SPEAKER_17: And that's what we have to deal with here in Minnesota, and it's sad.
1:38:23
SPEAKER_21: So I just wanted to mention, and I'm you guys are kind of kind of asking the question that answering the question I was gonna ask, and that was, was it necessary?
1:38:30
SPEAKER_21: On first blush when I saw this, I my instinctive reaction was kind of like, you know, are we doing this to just sort of bring attention to what had happened with the Ramsey County attorney and Thief Ellison dealing with the gangs?
1:38:44
SPEAKER_21: But now that I've heard some more commentary, I see more validity uh to it.
1:38:48
SPEAKER_21: You know, your your Tom Evansted aside, that was just a stupid trying to, you know, he that's what he always is doing.
1:38:54
SPEAKER_21: He's always trying to gain attention for uh for him uh for himself.
1:38:58
SPEAKER_21: He's a disturbed political groupie going there dressed as Spider-Man causing problems.
1:39:03
SPEAKER_21: So, but again, based off of the commentary that I've heard so far, yeah, I can actually see some legitimacy in this.
1:39:08
SPEAKER_20: Uh, Max Reimer.
1:39:09
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, maybe the gang threats are part of it, but I have volunteered at that booth enough over the last decade to say that Catherine's right.
1:39:18
SPEAKER_20: There are people who have a conniption when they walk past that booth.
1:39:22
SPEAKER_20: And usually they're liquored up and they've had a few beers at a few different stops.
1:39:26
SPEAKER_20: But you have, in fact, if you if you're at the state fair and you walk over to that GOP booth, just be sure to thank volunteers that are there because they are volunteers.
1:39:37
SPEAKER_20: Because when you are working that booth, you will have F bombs thrown at you.
1:39:41
SPEAKER_20: You will have people get in your face.
1:39:43
SPEAKER_20: I personally experience that a couple of times over the number of times I volunteered at that booth.
1:39:49
SPEAKER_20: People get ridiculous when they walk past that booth, especially when they see like a Donald Trump cutout or a politician of note who is there.
1:40:01
SPEAKER_20: They will go past you, they will hurl F bombs, they'll give you the middle finger, they'll get up in your face.
1:40:06
SPEAKER_20: It's a regular thing.
1:40:07
SPEAKER_20: Wow.
1:40:08
SPEAKER_20: It really is.
1:40:09
SPEAKER_17: It is.
1:40:09
SPEAKER_17: And it's crazy because what that must mean is that people in Minnesota are so stuck in their bubbles that a cardboard cutout of Donald Trump just throws them into a tizzy.
1:40:20
SPEAKER_17: What an insane way to live.
1:40:21
SPEAKER_17: Like, I've never walked by the DFL booth and been just like, oh nephew.
1:40:26
SPEAKER_17: Like, what in the world?
1:40:28
SPEAKER_17: These people are so unwell.
1:40:30
SPEAKER_20: All of the conservatives that I know will stop by the DFL booth to like laugh at them, to like take a picture of them with uh Kamala Harris cut out and be like, this is hilarious.
1:40:42
SPEAKER_21: Well, it's a it's a further example of something that's been discussed on the show a bunch.
1:40:48
SPEAKER_21: And the the commentary that I heard from somebody else that I can't take credit for, that one, people, Democrats in Minnesota want to vote for Democrats that end up governing like Republicans.
1:41:00
SPEAKER_21: But the reason why they don't is because of Catherine, what you mentioned.
1:41:05
SPEAKER_21: The left has done such a good job of vilifying conservatives and attaching it to Trump that that's just the visceral reaction that people have.
1:41:13
SPEAKER_21: It is a it is a is a it is a it is a hatred.
1:41:16
SPEAKER_21: It's that those on the left hate those on the right, where those on the right hate the policies and the ideologies of those on the on the left.
1:41:24
SPEAKER_23: Like I even couched it earlier, right?
1:41:26
SPEAKER_23: I said, I'm not talking about like the everyday rank and file, like I'm a DFL or I think they let it slide, don't get me wrong, but I still like to say that as a general movement, the left, especially with their embrace of Marxism, as deep as their core base is now, they are a pro-violence movement.
1:41:49
SPEAKER_23: And I think it's just by the Republican Party putting out this press release, just to kind of hopefully show regular people, yeah, I've been a volunteer with the Republican Party going all the way back to 2006.
1:42:00
SPEAKER_23: I've been at the state fair booth every single year, and you always will get like kind of a smattering of people that come in and they scream expletives at you.
1:42:09
SPEAKER_23: But I will say that last year, multiple times, that people had to physically be removed by other volunteers because they were getting in the face and putting their hands on people.
1:42:20
SPEAKER_23: So it's like this next level.
1:42:21
SPEAKER_23: And I think it would be terrible because as you know, the state fair won't allow people to actually carry a firearm to protect themselves.
1:42:29
SPEAKER_23: So you you are hoping that maybe one of these deranged leftists doesn't sneak a firearm in, and it's crazy.
1:42:36
SPEAKER_23: So you said Max, give you know, stop by the booth and say thank you to all the volunteers.
1:42:40
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, say thank you to everyone that's out there because they actually are putting themselves in danger to support the party in the things that they believe in.
1:42:49
SPEAKER_17: So do you think AK would get fewer people screaming at him than I do, I do.
1:42:53
SPEAKER_23: Do you think you get more or I get um, I would say a lot of middle-aged women that will scream crazy things at me.
1:43:01
SPEAKER_23: And then what I always do, you know, like most guys, you know, I'm physically intimidating, um, won't like get real froggy with me.
1:43:09
SPEAKER_23: Okay, it's the women, but I usually, because I'm still a big guy, I will walk towards them and they'll move back, and then I'll walk outside of the booth and go stand over by like there's a park bench right outside of the booth.
1:43:19
SPEAKER_23: And then I'll talk to them for like half hour, and usually by the end, they're way more chill, but they they initially like I'm the de-escalator because I physically have a large presence.
1:43:30
SPEAKER_23: Um, but yeah, a lot of people will direct their ire towards me crazily, the women.
1:43:35
SPEAKER_17: That makes sense though, because the women don't actually think you're gonna go after them.
1:43:38
SPEAKER_17: The men think they could be sorry.
1:43:39
SPEAKER_17: I get men constantly, like men, and my husband will point this out.
1:43:44
SPEAKER_17: Men are so mean to me, and it's like so on the left, or so weird.
1:43:49
SPEAKER_17: Why are why is it men?
1:43:50
SPEAKER_17: And I bet men don't go after you nearly as much.
1:43:52
SPEAKER_23: No, not I mean, honestly, never because I put my hands on them and it's game over, you know.
1:43:58
SPEAKER_21: So I have an idea.
1:43:59
SPEAKER_21: I want to use this uh blast that came in, though, uh, before I mention my idea.
1:44:04
SPEAKER_21: Dovetailing off of what you guys are are uh talking about.
1:44:06
SPEAKER_21: Let's go here to the blaster line this morning.
1:44:10
SPEAKER_03: I just have to talk about the owls.
1:44:12
SPEAKER_03: I moved to Florida uh about two years ago, and I am just amazed how many owls live by my house.
1:44:22
SPEAKER_03: So this is this is a Florida thing, in my opinion.
1:44:25
SPEAKER_03: That there's so many flaws.
1:44:26
SPEAKER_21: Okay, so here's So here's a here's here's my thought.
1:44:29
SPEAKER_21: Love it.
1:44:29
SPEAKER_21: So you know how we've done the cameras where we've I don't know which was it a was it a giraffe?
1:44:35
SPEAKER_21: I think we did a giraffe cam at some point in time.
1:44:37
SPEAKER_23: And then the eagle nest camp.
1:44:38
SPEAKER_21: We did the eagle nest cam.
1:44:40
SPEAKER_21: The GOP, and maybe even we should do this, you need to have a camera set up, just have a live feed facing out from the booth so that people can just watch the reaction, put it right next to a Trump standee.
1:44:55
SPEAKER_21: I would watch that all day long to just see the reaction.
1:44:59
SPEAKER_23: We could do it on the MN, G O P YouTube, and we'll monetize it, make money, and help.
1:45:04
SPEAKER_23: It would shock you.
1:45:06
SPEAKER_20: It would shock you if you have not been if you have not volunteered at that booth, if you know if you've not been able to make that hair in a while, it will show that camera will shock you.
1:45:14
SPEAKER_20: That would be amazing.
1:45:15
SPEAKER_20: That would be a good one.
1:45:15
SPEAKER_17: We need to donate a camera to put out front.
1:45:18
SPEAKER_17: Okay.
1:45:18
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, yeah.
1:45:19
SPEAKER_17: I'm on it.
1:45:19
SPEAKER_21: There you go.
1:45:20
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
1:45:20
SPEAKER_21: Put it, put it, put a standee of Trump.
1:45:22
SPEAKER_21: Just put it there, just put it on the camera.
1:45:24
SPEAKER_21: Right.
1:45:24
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
1:45:26
SPEAKER_21: Put it right there.
1:45:27
SPEAKER_21: Get some insurance on that camera.
1:45:29
SPEAKER_23: You'll be seeing people spit on it.
1:45:31
SPEAKER_23: Like people just get deranged.
1:45:32
SPEAKER_23: But and then what we should do is we should, we don't have to stream it, but do the same, like pointing at the DFL to see how that doesn't happen at all.
1:45:40
SPEAKER_23: So you can see that 100%.
1:45:42
SPEAKER_23: Deranged people directing at the end of the day.
1:45:44
SPEAKER_23: Exactly.
1:45:45
SPEAKER_23: Exactly.
1:45:45
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, it's good.
1:45:46
SPEAKER_21: Look at that.
1:45:47
SPEAKER_21: Look at that.
1:45:47
SPEAKER_21: I'm out.
1:45:48
SPEAKER_21: I'm done.
1:45:48
SPEAKER_21: Let's wrap the show up.
1:45:49
SPEAKER_21: It's a great idea.
1:45:50
SPEAKER_21: That's a great idea.
1:45:51
SPEAKER_21: Actually, I have this.
1:45:52
SPEAKER_21: Um, Richard Chin from the Minnesota uh Star Tribune.
1:45:55
SPEAKER_21: How not to be a jerk at the Minnesota State Fair.
1:45:58
unknown: Oh.
1:45:58
SPEAKER_21: So I figured we could run through some of this.
1:46:00
SPEAKER_21: I have thoughts.
1:46:01
SPEAKER_21: So the question, there was a question written by a reader of the Minnesota Star Tribune, says, I love, love, love the state fair.
1:46:08
SPEAKER_21: The food, the animals, the rides, the crowds, and the noise and the shoving and the lines bring out the worst in me, though.
1:46:15
SPEAKER_21: Got any tips for helping a fair lover handle the downsides?
1:46:18
SPEAKER_21: And by that I mean annoying people at the Minnesota Great Get Together signed me love-hate.
1:46:25
SPEAKER_21: So the article writer says this with hordes of people from all walks of life in one place bumping into each other, observing good manners and civility are key to surviving and even enjoying the fair.
1:46:34
SPEAKER_21: But they ended up deploying the view of an etiquette expert named Nikki Black.
1:46:40
SPEAKER_21: Oh my gosh.
1:46:41
SPEAKER_17: Okay.
1:46:42
SPEAKER_23: Did you write this?
1:46:43
SPEAKER_17: No, I don't know that the etiquette.
1:46:45
SPEAKER_23: Were you the person that submitted this?
1:46:47
SPEAKER_17: No, I wasn't.
1:46:48
SPEAKER_23: Okay.
1:46:48
SPEAKER_17: No.
1:46:50
SPEAKER_21: Black is the owner of Polished and Beyond, a Plymouth-based etiquette training company.
1:46:57
unknown: Okay.
1:46:57
SPEAKER_23: Do they get government Medicaid dollars?
1:47:00
SPEAKER_23: That's the first question.
1:47:01
SPEAKER_20: This is going to be a job that AI takes real quick.
1:47:04
SPEAKER_21: All right.
1:47:04
SPEAKER_21: So uh let's see.
1:47:05
SPEAKER_21: Nikki Black says having good manners, Black said, boils down to being aware and considerate of the people around you.
1:47:11
SPEAKER_21: I think we can all agree upon that, as we.
1:47:13
SPEAKER_21: Yep.
1:47:14
SPEAKER_23: That's usually the reason why that people don't.
1:47:16
SPEAKER_21: So I figure what we can do is go through her tips and we can find out whether or not we agree or or disagree here.
1:47:21
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
1:47:22
SPEAKER_21: So to negotiate the masses, doing that thing with my fingers, it's best to try to go with the flow.
1:47:27
SPEAKER_21: Adopt vehicle traffic patterns by walking on the right hand side of the road.
1:47:31
SPEAKER_21: If you need to stop, step aside so you don't impede people behind you.
1:47:36
SPEAKER_21: If you're in a large group, walk no more than two abreast.
1:47:40
SPEAKER_21: So do we have any?
1:47:41
SPEAKER_19: Oh, yeah, right.
1:47:43
SPEAKER_19: People want to follow that.
1:47:45
SPEAKER_19: Are you joking?
1:47:46
SPEAKER_19: No.
1:47:46
SPEAKER_17: See, this is the problem.
1:47:47
SPEAKER_17: She's setting you up for failure.
1:47:49
SPEAKER_17: Like I am pro etiquette, but if you are at the fair, it's every man for himself.
1:47:53
SPEAKER_17: And you need to be bombing and weaving and going in and out.
1:47:57
SPEAKER_17: You need to cut across.
1:47:58
SPEAKER_17: You need to do what you got to do.
1:47:59
SPEAKER_17: You'll never go get to your mini donuts if you're not doing what it takes to get there quickly.
1:48:04
SPEAKER_21: You know, I'm so happy already.
1:48:06
SPEAKER_21: So I'm so pleased.
1:48:07
SPEAKER_21: This is already this is grabbing this story was the second best idea I've had today.
1:48:11
SPEAKER_17: But I do also, I will say, like, you can't be going in big groups.
1:48:14
SPEAKER_17: Like that's just inefficient.
1:48:15
SPEAKER_17: You know, like I go, we go two, three, maybe.
1:48:18
SPEAKER_17: My mom and I go, and then you can navigate much quicker.
1:48:22
SPEAKER_21: I think it's a combo of both.
1:48:23
SPEAKER_21: I think I I I appreciate uh Miss Black's suggestion here, if you're able to remember it.
1:48:29
SPEAKER_21: But I also get what you're saying.
1:48:31
SPEAKER_21: You know, bobbing and weaving.
1:48:32
SPEAKER_21: The biggest pet peeve for me are people that stop right in the middle.
1:48:34
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
1:48:35
SPEAKER_21: It's like, dude, just go to the right or go to the left.
1:48:37
SPEAKER_21: You don't need to stop right in the middle of the of the walkway.
1:48:40
SPEAKER_17: General awareness of your surroundings is huge.
1:48:43
SPEAKER_17: A lot of people do lack that.
1:48:44
SPEAKER_21: Um, she goes on to say, be mindful that the crop art and butter sculpture displays are Minnesota's version of the Mona Lisa stop timeout.
1:48:52
SPEAKER_17: Is that a good assessment?
1:48:54
SPEAKER_20: No, that's that's I don't even do I don't even stop at those places.
1:48:58
SPEAKER_17: Do you want my actual take on the crop art line?
1:49:00
SPEAKER_17: Like they just changed it this year.
1:49:02
SPEAKER_17: I could like go on about this.
1:49:04
SPEAKER_21: 100% I want your take on it.
1:49:05
SPEAKER_17: Okay, they used to have the crop art line lined up so stupid.
1:49:08
SPEAKER_17: It was like you'd have to go way back, and this whole these people would line up for hours to see the crop art.
1:49:14
SPEAKER_17: Whereas if you just kind of went and you went through quickly and you bobbed around, you could get through.
1:49:19
SPEAKER_17: It would have been so much quicker.
1:49:20
SPEAKER_17: Instead, stupid Minnesotans are just like waiting in line like sheep to get to the front.
1:49:24
SPEAKER_17: It's like, no, no, just get up there, people.
1:49:26
SPEAKER_17: Okay.
1:49:26
SPEAKER_17: Get up there.
1:49:27
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
1:49:28
SPEAKER_21: So I'm glad that you said that because this would run counter to what the etiquette expert says you should do.
1:49:33
SPEAKER_21: She says, Yeah, probably.
1:49:34
SPEAKER_21: She says, be patient and wait your turn.
1:49:36
SPEAKER_17: No, that's what we're doing wrong.
1:49:38
SPEAKER_17: Like it's just taking forever and no one gets to the front.
1:49:40
SPEAKER_17: It's like they just see a line and they get in it.
1:49:42
SPEAKER_17: No, just go up there and you can see it from behind the line.
1:49:46
SPEAKER_19: Grace, you wanna You know what is actually bothering me about this whole thing?
1:49:49
SPEAKER_19: I think I'm getting uh yeah, maybe more worked up than I should be.
1:49:52
SPEAKER_19: But like speaker of this I'm not even touching what's happening on this side of the room, but this writer is.
1:50:00
SPEAKER_19: This person is writing into this help columnist saying, like, how do I deal with basically like rude antisocial behavior kind of at the fair of people shoving and pushing.
1:50:09
SPEAKER_19: And this person's response is to just tell them how to behave better.
1:50:13
SPEAKER_19: Like everyone else is still going to be behaved terribly.
1:50:16
SPEAKER_19: What would have been more helpful would be to say, you know, Bob and Weave, act aggressive.
1:50:21
SPEAKER_19: Here are some like mental stress-relieving breathing tips to just get you through the day, find a quiet spot to decompress, and then go back into the hordes.
1:50:29
SPEAKER_19: But like telling the telling this person who's writing in to stand in line and be patient, not helpful.
1:50:34
SPEAKER_19: Completely agree.
1:50:34
SPEAKER_23: So I think it's making them who are already docile and trying to say, like, listen, I I obey like the rules of society.
1:50:43
SPEAKER_23: What can I do?
1:50:43
SPEAKER_23: I think it should just be one sentence.
1:50:46
SPEAKER_23: Buy shock gloves.
1:50:48
SPEAKER_23: That's it.
1:50:50
SPEAKER_23: Buy shock gloves.
1:50:51
SPEAKER_21: You know what?
1:50:51
SPEAKER_21: I'm going to take that.
1:50:52
SPEAKER_21: I'm going to take it a step further because I got I got a uh I received this text from a friend of the show.
1:50:57
SPEAKER_21: So you have your buy your shock gloves.
1:50:59
SPEAKER_21: They say Minnesota GOP fair booth flock camera.
1:51:03
SPEAKER_19: Yeah.
1:51:04
SPEAKER_19: Oh boy.
1:51:04
SPEAKER_19: Yes.
1:51:06
SPEAKER_19: Yes.
1:51:06
SPEAKER_19: That thing is going to get torn down real quick.
1:51:09
SPEAKER_21: No, we want it to stay up.
1:51:10
SPEAKER_21: We want the camera to stay up.
1:51:12
SPEAKER_20: Well, um I just love how the fair is we're making it seem like somebody should come visit you.
1:51:17
SPEAKER_20: Uh what is it tomorrow?
1:51:19
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
1:51:19
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
1:51:20
SPEAKER_20: 1101.
1:51:21
SPEAKER_20: You're going to be stepping into Mad Max, apparently.
1:51:23
SPEAKER_20: Obviously.
1:51:24
SPEAKER_20: When you go to the fair.
1:51:25
SPEAKER_21: Better get a football uniform to wear, some shoulder pads.
1:51:29
SPEAKER_19: That is a great idea.
1:51:30
SPEAKER_21: So she says, uh, works of art uh with a famous reputation attract crowds.
1:51:35
SPEAKER_21: Drink in the experience when you finally inch your way into position to see the crop art or butter sculpture displays.
1:51:41
SPEAKER_21: Don't linger and cause uh a backup in the crowd.
1:51:45
SPEAKER_21: If you take a photo or selfie, be quick about it.
1:51:50
SPEAKER_23: Okay.
1:51:52
unknown: Okay.
1:51:53
SPEAKER_23: I like how it's like the average reader, to your point, Grace.
1:51:56
SPEAKER_23: Is the average reader like, you know, I'm that jerk that just makes life horrible.
1:52:01
SPEAKER_23: And I never really thought about it until I read this column.
1:52:05
SPEAKER_23: Yeah.
1:52:06
SPEAKER_23: Man, I need to stop being such a selfish jerk.
1:52:09
SPEAKER_19: That person writing this letter or reading this column is not the problem in this scenario.
1:52:14
SPEAKER_21: She says, likewise, if you see a bunch of people crowding around a popular food booth, it's always a good idea to ask, is this the end of the line?
1:52:21
SPEAKER_21: Can you not figure that out on your own?
1:52:23
SPEAKER_21: I mean, I guess you could ask.
1:52:25
SPEAKER_21: I thought these were all relatively benign.
1:52:27
SPEAKER_21: I guess I was wrong.
1:52:27
SPEAKER_21: Another tip look at the menu before reaching the counters that you can order promptly that helps keep the line moving.
1:52:32
SPEAKER_21: Oh, I absolutely agree with that.
1:52:34
SPEAKER_21: It drives me nut.
1:52:35
SPEAKER_21: If you stand up and you're like, um I have to prep the family.
1:52:38
SPEAKER_21: If we're going to if we're going to get raising canes or any fast food place, it's like, have your order ready to go when we drive up there.
1:52:46
SPEAKER_21: I do not like raising the canes.
1:52:48
SPEAKER_21: Isn't there like three things on the menu?
1:52:52
SPEAKER_21: You're like chicken fingers or chicken fingers.
1:52:56
SPEAKER_21: Time out.
1:52:56
SPEAKER_21: That's not a horrible example.
1:52:57
SPEAKER_21: You have you've never heard my son Kyle order at raising.
1:53:02
SPEAKER_21: No, that's true.
1:53:03
SPEAKER_21: You know, it's it's true.
1:53:04
SPEAKER_21: It's two I have not.
1:53:06
SPEAKER_21: It's two.
1:53:07
SPEAKER_21: I mean, see if I get it right.
1:53:08
SPEAKER_21: It is so what's the what's the big what's the big box?
1:53:11
SPEAKER_23: Canyon.
1:53:11
SPEAKER_21: Okay, so I think he and I think he does four.
1:53:13
SPEAKER_21: I think what's that?
1:53:14
SPEAKER_21: Box combo.
1:53:15
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, box combo.
1:53:16
SPEAKER_21: That's right.
1:53:16
SPEAKER_21: He's a box combo.
1:53:18
SPEAKER_21: He does two sauces, replace the toast with extra slaw?
1:53:26
SPEAKER_21: No, it's a cold slow with extra.
1:53:27
SPEAKER_21: That's what it is.
1:53:28
SPEAKER_21: Yes, yeah.
1:53:29
SPEAKER_21: So he has this whole yeah, I think you're on it.
1:53:32
SPEAKER_21: You should be on your I know.
1:53:33
SPEAKER_21: It's okay.
1:53:34
SPEAKER_21: No, no, no, don't, don't, don't, because I'm not going to be going to you enough for you to go through the rigma roll over there.
1:53:39
SPEAKER_21: So, yes, and to their point, all I was saying was I absolutely agree with her.
1:53:42
SPEAKER_21: Have your order ready to go when you walk up.
1:53:44
SPEAKER_21: But most of the items there are pretty if you're going to Sweet Martha's cookies, you're just getting cookies.
1:53:47
SPEAKER_17: Kind of a one stand, one item.
1:53:50
SPEAKER_21: That's kind of an easy one situation.
1:53:51
SPEAKER_17: Also, this is pretty nitpiggy, but uh your cards, like all the cards tap now.
1:53:55
SPEAKER_17: Like the the there's always old people like and then you they insert it, takes too long, it takes forever, you know?
1:54:01
SPEAKER_17: It's like just they don't know about the tap.
1:54:03
SPEAKER_23: In the defense of people who have tap cards, that the tap sometimes wears out.
1:54:10
SPEAKER_23: So I had a card where the tap wore out and I had to insert it.
1:54:13
SPEAKER_23: And how many, and I will say mostly Gen Z or cashiers are like, oh, you can tap.
1:54:17
SPEAKER_23: I'm like, oh go ahead, try.
1:54:19
SPEAKER_23: Oh, oh, it doesn't, oh my, it's my card.
1:54:22
SPEAKER_23: I didn't know it didn't tap.
1:54:24
SPEAKER_23: Oh you need to get a new card.
1:54:26
SPEAKER_23: Yes, I did.
1:54:27
SPEAKER_23: I did.
1:54:28
SPEAKER_21: Once once you have your food, according to the uh uh the etiquette expert.
1:54:33
SPEAKER_21: Once you have your food and you're looking for a place to sit, it's fine to share the bench with a stranger if there's plenty of room.
1:54:39
SPEAKER_21: Just ask first.
1:54:42
SPEAKER_23: I'm not gonna ask.
1:54:42
SPEAKER_23: I'm just gonna sit down.
1:54:44
SPEAKER_23: I might say, is this seat taken?
1:54:45
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, but I'm not asking like it falls into the damage.
1:54:48
SPEAKER_23: Because, you know, it's an open seat.
1:54:50
SPEAKER_19: No, no, there's no situation.
1:54:52
SPEAKER_19: I think it depends on the situation.
1:54:54
SPEAKER_19: If you're looking at a bench and there's one person on one end, I'm just sitting down on the other end.
1:54:57
SPEAKER_19: If it's mostly taken up, I'll be like, hey, do you mind if I sit here?
1:55:00
SPEAKER_19: It's really crowded.
1:55:01
SPEAKER_19: Is this not like common sense?
1:55:03
SPEAKER_19: Yeah.
1:55:04
SPEAKER_19: If you can get one cheek on the bench, I think you can you can you ask before you sit.
1:55:09
SPEAKER_20: Cap your ass before you sit.
1:55:11
SPEAKER_17: There's no saying there's one cheek at the fair.
1:55:13
SPEAKER_17: Yeah.
1:55:13
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
1:55:14
SPEAKER_17: If there's an open seat, someone can take it.
1:55:15
SPEAKER_17: You can't just be like, no, no, I got people coming.
1:55:18
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, that's true.
1:55:18
SPEAKER_23: I'm with you on that.
1:55:19
SPEAKER_23: Just like set all your stuff and then you just sit there by yourself.
1:55:24
SPEAKER_23: Well, people try and do that.
1:55:25
SPEAKER_23: It's like I gotta say it again.
1:55:27
SPEAKER_21: What's your uh what what is your uh your etiquette when there's like a like a picnic table and you want to sit down to eat, like you know, in terms of who's occupying it?
1:55:38
SPEAKER_17: That one's an ask.
1:55:39
SPEAKER_17: I do think if you've got a table, you should ask first, but it's definitely open for like if there's only two people on one side of the picnic table.
1:55:45
SPEAKER_17: Can I take the other side?
1:55:46
SPEAKER_17: Yes.
1:55:47
SPEAKER_21: She says, uh, once you're finished gnawing on your turkey leg or corn on the cob, it might make others uncomfortable if you lick your fingers or wipe your hands on your shirt.
1:55:55
SPEAKER_21: Well, napkins are my friend at the fair, she said.
1:55:59
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
1:56:00
SPEAKER_19: You're licking your fingers when you're walking around the Minnesota State Fair.
1:56:03
SPEAKER_19: Do you want the turkey on them?
1:56:04
SPEAKER_21: Turkey leg.
1:56:05
SPEAKER_21: Well, she says turkey leg or corn on the cobs.
1:56:07
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, just corn on the cob.
1:56:08
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
1:56:08
SPEAKER_23: So corn on the cob.
1:56:10
SPEAKER_23: I can't believe they haven't came up with this idea yet.
1:56:12
SPEAKER_23: Why don't they just have one extra step or even have your own, like, I don't know what you would call it, but cut the corn off of the cob, put it in a cup so you can eat it.
1:56:21
SPEAKER_23: So it's still the corn on the cob, but you're not just sitting there just getting slobber all over and corn particles everywhere.
1:56:28
SPEAKER_23: But uh particle.
1:56:30
SPEAKER_17: You want to cut off the cob?
1:56:32
SPEAKER_23: Like slice the corn off the cob in a cup.
1:56:35
SPEAKER_23: It's not a couple of things.
1:56:38
SPEAKER_23: It's still fire roasted.
1:56:40
SPEAKER_23: Are you eating the corn on the cob because of the taste or because it's on a cob?
1:56:45
SPEAKER_23: Uh I think it's a process.
1:56:47
SPEAKER_23: I think it's a whole compost.
1:56:49
SPEAKER_23: It's the taste of the fire roasted with the butter.
1:56:52
SPEAKER_23: But if you could get the exact same thing and slice it.
1:56:55
SPEAKER_17: Also, by the way, they won't even put like salt and pepper in other steps.
1:56:58
SPEAKER_17: Like, this is never gonna happen.
1:56:59
SPEAKER_17: You go up there, they got the salt and the pepper meshed into one container and you just dump it.
1:57:04
SPEAKER_17: So they're not adding steps at that booth.
1:57:06
SPEAKER_23: I'm just saying if they had if they had it on the side that you could cut your own.
1:57:09
SPEAKER_23: I don't know.
1:57:10
SPEAKER_23: I don't know what maybe I need to make.
1:57:12
SPEAKER_21: First off, I have a completely like like when it comes to eating, like if it's corn in a bowl separately, like I've I know it's exactly the same thing, but I view it completely different than eating corn on the cob.
1:57:20
SPEAKER_21: Like I would much rather eat corn on the cob for some reason over that over that in a bowl.
1:57:25
SPEAKER_21: Hold on.
1:57:25
SPEAKER_21: Hold on.
1:57:26
SPEAKER_21: Max, you've been really quiet over here.
1:57:28
SPEAKER_21: And you're you're Mr.
1:57:29
SPEAKER_21: Mello, even keel, you know, deep thoughts with Max Reimer.
1:57:32
SPEAKER_21: What is going on?
1:57:33
SPEAKER_21: Because you haven't really been getting in on the I don't know.
1:57:36
SPEAKER_20: Just be a normal person.
1:57:38
SPEAKER_20: Like, what are we doing?
1:57:39
SPEAKER_20: I do we need an entire article, a slop article, probably with the assistance of AI writing about state fair etiquette.
1:57:47
SPEAKER_20: Like, just don't be a psychopath, and that'll put you in the 99th percentile of the people at the state fair.
1:57:55
SPEAKER_21: Just exercise good manners, right?
1:57:57
SPEAKER_21: All right, needless to say, I highlighted the rest of this, so we have to get through it.
1:58:00
SPEAKER_21: She says, uh, remember the fair is a family affair.
1:58:02
SPEAKER_21: Wear comfortable clothing, but consider the reaction you'll get if you wear something too revealing or with a polarizing message.
1:58:09
SPEAKER_23: Uh-oh.
1:58:10
SPEAKER_23: Sounds like there's gonna be some body positivity.
1:58:12
SPEAKER_23: People are writing some angry letters to the editor, back to this or counteropinion to this, to this writer here.
1:58:18
SPEAKER_21: She says, to be sure the fair is not a church or a library, but there are plenty of kids around, so consider language that can be heard or read by others.
1:58:25
SPEAKER_16: Yeah.
1:58:25
SPEAKER_20: Is there a specific mention about walking by the GLP booth and uh especially important to not uh shout vulgarities at the volunteers?
1:58:35
SPEAKER_21: No, but I did get a blast that rolled in based off of that idea.
1:58:39
SPEAKER_06: God, I had the same exact idea of having a camera live streaming, but even better yet at the GLP booth would be to have like a montage at the end of the fair.
1:58:51
SPEAKER_06: Kind of like the Minnesota uh boys high school hockey tournament where they uh highlight all the hair, just highlight all the lunatics yelling and screaming.
1:59:03
SPEAKER_21: It could it could end up being being used in campaign ads for crying out loud.
1:59:06
SPEAKER_21: This is this is the party that you're probably wearing like Clovishar's shirt.
1:59:09
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, they'll have a Peggy Flanagan shirt on as they're doing it.
1:59:13
SPEAKER_20: They're shameless.
1:59:14
SPEAKER_21: And I think you don't even hide the camera.
1:59:16
SPEAKER_21: I think you tell people that they're being recorded because I think you'll end up bringing out the worst.
1:59:19
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
1:59:20
SPEAKER_21: If they actually know they're gonna be on display, they would proudly show what a-holes they are.
1:59:25
SPEAKER_21: Just in just in my opinion.
1:59:26
SPEAKER_20: And as you play the montage at the end of the state fair, it's to the music of In the Arms of an angel.
1:59:34
SPEAKER_20: Oh, yeah.
1:59:35
SPEAKER_24: You're you're fly away.
1:59:37
SPEAKER_24: You're fascinating to talk to.
1:59:40
SPEAKER_24: Let's go here.
1:59:40
SPEAKER_24: Okay.
1:59:42
SPEAKER_13: Hey, Steven, like, so in response to the etiquette, uh nobody wrote in to the uh writer to ask how to behave a pair with all the Neanderthals out there.
1:59:54
SPEAKER_13: Uh we're gonna throw bottle it up.
1:59:57
SPEAKER_13: We don't have to be able to talk about it.
1:59:59
SPEAKER_13: It's just a shameless attempt to tell people how to act in public.
2:00:03
SPEAKER_21: Is this still a pro is it is it not now politically incorrect to say Neanderthal?
2:00:08
SPEAKER_21: I mean, is there anybody that's speaking out for the for the Neanderthals rights?
2:00:12
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:00:12
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:00:12
SPEAKER_21: Is there anybody that's speaking?
2:00:14
SPEAKER_21: Who speaks for the for the Neanderthals?
2:00:16
SPEAKER_21: Just out of curiosity.
2:00:17
SPEAKER_21: You know what?
2:00:17
SPEAKER_21: I'll give it to myself.
2:00:20
SPEAKER_17: I will say downside is if people follow these etiquette rules, is like less funny to make fun of people at the fair.
2:00:27
SPEAKER_17: Which is a big draw.
2:00:28
SPEAKER_17: Which is a big draw.
2:00:29
SPEAKER_17: Like I do like people watching is one of the my favorite parts of the fair.
2:00:32
SPEAKER_17: You're a people watcher too?
2:00:33
SPEAKER_17: I love people watching.
2:00:34
SPEAKER_23: I love yeah, people watching us.
2:00:36
SPEAKER_23: Join you at the fair, just people watch, because that's legitimately my favorite part.
2:00:40
SPEAKER_23: Like, yeah.
2:00:40
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, yeah.
2:00:41
SPEAKER_17: It's the best part of the fair.
2:00:42
SPEAKER_17: So I do agree, you know, the crazy shirts are are really something, or if you got your full front half hanging out.
2:00:48
SPEAKER_17: Not my favorite, but funny for my experience.
2:00:50
SPEAKER_21: So she wraps on this here on the John Justice show, presented by American Experiment.
2:00:55
SPEAKER_21: We're already into the third hour for crying out loud.
2:00:56
SPEAKER_21: Oh my gosh.
2:00:57
SPEAKER_21: Catherine Johnson, Grace Keating, Max Reimer, and A.K.
2:01:00
SPEAKER_21: Kamari.
2:01:00
SPEAKER_21: She says it is about presenting the best version of yourself wherever you go, especially in public.
2:01:04
SPEAKER_21: It's about respecting others.
2:01:06
SPEAKER_21: Uh, she goes to the fair every year and feels the Minnesotans do a pretty good job of being mannerly and avoiding faux pas.
2:01:12
SPEAKER_21: Everybody who's been to the fair knows what to expect.
2:01:14
SPEAKER_21: The only way uh that can work or work well is by really working together.
2:01:18
SPEAKER_21: Do you think?
2:01:19
SPEAKER_21: I mean, how I is it generally okay in terms of that, or do you think the majority of individuals are not are not being respectful?
2:01:26
SPEAKER_23: No, I listen, I I think for the majority, yes, it's people aren't animals.
2:01:33
SPEAKER_23: Okay, we're we're Minnesota still.
2:01:35
SPEAKER_23: Uh people can be animal-ish.
2:01:37
SPEAKER_23: I'll say that there's definitely been an uptick in the the selfish animal behavior.
2:01:42
SPEAKER_23: Um but yeah, I still think that in general you're gonna have a great time at the fair.
2:01:46
SPEAKER_23: You just might be slightly more annoyed by people that act like nobody else is there or around.
2:01:52
SPEAKER_23: I'm not endorsing this, but I am saying that I had a buddy that uh would carry around a can of fart spray.
2:01:59
SPEAKER_23: And um, when people were misbehaving in large public areas, and it's it's open doors, don't do this indoors.
2:02:06
SPEAKER_23: Uh you know, you'd hit a shot of fart juice, and uh, you know, it would disperse crowds.
2:02:11
SPEAKER_23: So if you have that group of like six people that stops right in the middle and you walk by and you hit them with the fart spray, they're dispersing, they're not gonna stand there anymore.
2:02:19
SPEAKER_23: I'm I'm not saying you should.
2:02:20
SPEAKER_23: I'm just saying I've heard it can be effective.
2:02:22
SPEAKER_17: Etiquette by AK.
2:02:25
SPEAKER_23: Fart spray, shot gloves.
2:02:26
SPEAKER_20: You said this was a Star Tribune piece.
2:02:29
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
2:02:30
SPEAKER_20: Man, no wonder they're having layoffs.
2:02:32
SPEAKER_20: Imagine trying to justify your existence by writing an article that nobody asked for about the etiquette fair.
2:02:41
SPEAKER_21: I'm 99% sure that I had printed up a story almost exactly the same a year ago when the fair rolled around and I did it not and I did not cover it.
2:02:49
SPEAKER_21: I don't know if I didn't.
2:02:49
SPEAKER_19: Oh, I feel like we did cover it.
2:02:51
SPEAKER_19: I'm having a major deja vu.
2:02:52
SPEAKER_19: Oh, are you?
2:02:53
SPEAKER_20: And it was content-wise, extremely simple.
2:02:56
SPEAKER_20: I wonder if anything has changed in terms of best practices from last year.
2:02:59
SPEAKER_17: Uh I have one.
2:03:00
SPEAKER_17: Recent development is the weed smell everywhere on especially weekends.
2:03:05
SPEAKER_17: I feel like that is actually a huge problem that was not mentioned.
2:03:08
SPEAKER_17: Like, don't smoke pot at the fair, please.
2:03:12
SPEAKER_20: Don't bring your don't bring your Somali gang buddies either, apparently.
2:03:16
SPEAKER_20: Take do gummies.
2:03:17
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, do gummies.
2:03:18
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, sure, fine.
2:03:19
SPEAKER_20: That doesn't impact me.
2:03:20
SPEAKER_17: Uh yeah, just don't smoke it right in the middle of the park where we're working.
2:03:24
SPEAKER_23: It's not that we care that you're high, or even it's that's not my preference.
2:03:29
SPEAKER_23: I don't want to smell that you're high.
2:03:30
SPEAKER_23: Smell it, or you are puking or being sloppy.
2:03:33
SPEAKER_23: That's all we care about.
2:03:35
SPEAKER_21: You know, just let's go back to the blaster line.
2:03:37
SPEAKER_21: This is a uh comment for uh A.K.
2:03:38
SPEAKER_21: Kamara here this morning on the John Justice show.
2:03:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, this is for EK.
2:03:42
SPEAKER_05: So E.K.
2:03:42
SPEAKER_05: I've talked to you several times.
2:03:44
SPEAKER_05: Um, you're not physically intimidating.
2:03:47
SPEAKER_05: And I'm only five foot six.
2:03:48
SPEAKER_05: But then again, I was a sergeant in the Marine Corps.
2:03:51
SPEAKER_23: So apparently, according to him, you're not physically intimidating.
2:03:53
SPEAKER_23: I mean, he's a Marine, so like he's you know, knows how to use deadly force on people, but most people aren't.
2:03:59
SPEAKER_23: Most people are like, yeah, yeah, 300-pound black guy who is very wide.
2:04:03
SPEAKER_23: I wear a 58 uh, you know, that's the size of my chest.
2:04:07
SPEAKER_20: I'm gonna boy, but you know what?
2:04:09
SPEAKER_23: I it's been a fascinating to talk to.
2:04:12
SPEAKER_20: Tell us more about your chest size.
2:04:14
SPEAKER_20: Let's okay.
2:04:14
SPEAKER_21: Let's let's not let's go here.
2:04:18
SPEAKER_21: So um at americanexperiment.org, you can find this, but we're gonna talk about it now.
2:04:22
SPEAKER_21: Center of the American Experiment did win the 2026 Bob Williams Award for securing durable freedom from the State to Policy Network.
2:04:29
SPEAKER_21: The award was announced at the SPN annual meeting in Orlando, Florida.
2:04:34
SPEAKER_21: SPN recognized American Experiments' work for exposing and documenting Minnesota's fraud a problem.
2:04:39
SPEAKER_21: We actually have an audio of when the award was a handed out at that event.
2:04:42
SPEAKER_25: And the winner of this year's Securing Durable Freedom Award goes to the Center of the American Experiment for Expert Administrators.
2:04:59
SPEAKER_17: I was wondering if anyone maybe Isaac was tasked with turning down my volume.
2:05:04
SPEAKER_25: Thanks to all of you, and thanks most of all to Bill Block, who has done the bulk of the work for us on the fraud institution.
2:05:12
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, there's an uh there's a whole Bill Walsh did a whole write-up uh on this.
2:05:15
SPEAKER_21: Uh through two years of relentless investigative reporting, American Experiment exposed more than 9 billion in fraud across Minnesota's social service programs, bringing national attention to a story that demanded accountability.
2:05:26
SPEAKER_21: The reporting reached millions, helped to prompt congressional hearings, and contributed to major policy victory, the creation of Minnesota's first government-wide office of inspector general uh to investigate uh fraud and pursue criminal prosecution.
2:05:39
SPEAKER_21: So, congratulations to American Experiment.
2:05:41
SPEAKER_21: And as you guys both mentioned, you were in the you were in the room when the award was given out, correct?
2:05:45
SPEAKER_19: Yeah, it was a great evening.
2:05:46
SPEAKER_19: Um, obviously, we're very, very grateful for this recognition of Bilan's extremely hard work over the last several years here at American Experiment.
2:05:54
SPEAKER_19: And it was really, really um just touching to see how other groups ha rallied around us and recognized the work that we've been doing on fraud here in Minnesota.
2:06:03
SPEAKER_19: It was um it was a very nice night.
2:06:05
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, like I said, this is a group of people from all over the country.
2:06:08
SPEAKER_17: So there's people from all different states.
2:06:10
SPEAKER_17: And sometimes you go to these things and you're like, man, it stinks to be in Minnesota where we can't get a lot done because it's a you know blue H hole.
2:06:18
SPEAKER_17: But that's not really the truth at all.
2:06:21
SPEAKER_17: You know, in reality, we can have a lot of impact here in Minnesota.
2:06:23
SPEAKER_17: I mean, look at what came out of the fraud scandal.
2:06:25
SPEAKER_17: Our president and vice president created a federal task force and they're um tackling fraud across the entire country that came out of Minnesota.
2:06:32
SPEAKER_17: Yeah.
2:06:33
SPEAKER_17: And so there's still a lot of impact that we can have as a policy group here in Minnesota, even though sometimes it seems like we're up against like the biggest blue wall.
2:06:42
SPEAKER_17: It's that's not always the truth.
2:06:43
SPEAKER_17: We can still make real policy wins here.
2:06:45
SPEAKER_21: Well, congratulations.
2:06:46
SPEAKER_21: Uh, and I'm sure that was a thrill to be in the room when that was when that was given out, too.
2:06:50
SPEAKER_21: So that's pretty, that's pretty awesome.
2:06:51
SPEAKER_17: It was fun and good to see Bill Glon finally get his flowers because he's been working on fraud in Minnesota for, oh my gosh, so long.
2:06:58
SPEAKER_17: So um it was it was great.
2:07:00
SPEAKER_21: Let's go back to the blaster line this morning.
2:07:02
SPEAKER_21: 612-584-4565 here on the John Justice Show.
2:07:06
SPEAKER_13: Morning, John, and gang.
2:07:07
SPEAKER_13: It's Brian from North Branch.
2:07:09
SPEAKER_13: I think the most offensive thing uh as a pair is people who don't wear deodorants or don't wear out.
2:07:18
SPEAKER_13: And offensive.
2:07:20
SPEAKER_13: Great shows this week.
2:07:21
SPEAKER_13: Have fun as a pair tomorrow.
2:07:23
SPEAKER_13: I will not be going to the great Minnesota Sweat Together.
2:07:26
SPEAKER_21: I don't think I've I'm sure I've heard that before with the Great Minnesota sweat together.
2:07:30
SPEAKER_21: Actually, the weather, I was looking at the uh I was looking at the forecast, and the weather is supposed to be the best tomorrow.
2:07:36
SPEAKER_21: So that's yeah, it's gonna be supposed to be rather uh rather rather mild.
2:07:39
SPEAKER_21: So I'm looking forward, uh looking forward to uh to that.
2:07:42
SPEAKER_21: Um all right, let's go here.
2:07:44
SPEAKER_21: Uh got more items to talk about on the Freedom Friday.
2:07:47
SPEAKER_21: On and off topic comments all morning long, aka Kamara.
2:07:50
SPEAKER_21: We have Max Reimer, Grace Keating, and Catherine Johnson.
2:07:52
SPEAKER_21: Police executed a search warrant Tuesday night at the Minneapolis apartment, reportedly shared by Democrat representative Ilhan Omar's adult son, and a man arrested earlier that day on a weapons charge, according to multiple law enforcement sources.
2:08:04
SPEAKER_21: Sources told Alpha News the officer had recovered firearms and ammo from the apartment where Omar's son Um Adnan allegedly lives with a 22-year-old, not even gonna try.
2:08:15
SPEAKER_21: Uh Toll Abdi.
2:08:16
SPEAKER_21: Not even, yeah, not even gonna have a try on that, so it's very long.
2:08:19
SPEAKER_21: The Minneapolis Police Department confirmed that officers arrested Toll Abdi and recovered a firearm while impounding his vehicle following a traffic stop earlier in the day.
2:08:30
SPEAKER_21: Officers initially stopped Abdi and cited him for driving after his license was canceled and failing to provide a proof of insurance.
2:08:37
SPEAKER_21: He was released at the scene.
2:08:38
SPEAKER_21: Police later located him and arrested him without incident, was booked in the Hennepin County jail.
2:08:43
SPEAKER_21: Alpha News reported that police executed an apartment search later Tuesday and recovered additional guns and ammo.
2:08:49
SPEAKER_21: They've not publicly confirmed to Alpha News the reporting on what was actually found in the uh search.
2:08:56
SPEAKER_21: The raid adds another usual chapter to the political and personal controversy surrounding Omar and her family, including Omar's uh daughter as well.
2:09:04
SPEAKER_21: So Abney's been convicted at least 10 times for misdemeanors.
2:09:08
SPEAKER_21: Criminal record includes convictions for speeding, driving, and revoke license using a cell phone while driving and failing to provide proof of insurance.
2:09:15
SPEAKER_21: You know, I made a comment earlier on this.
2:09:16
SPEAKER_21: I mean, just the association of Ilhan Omar's son with a guy like this, it says says a lot in my mind.
2:09:22
SPEAKER_21: We don't know exactly what the charges uh were regarding this, and I'm sure we'll get more, we'll get more details in the near future.
2:09:27
SPEAKER_23: So when I first heard the story, I I wasn't sure if it was maybe a little bit sensitive, like making it sensational.
2:09:34
SPEAKER_23: So was it the same unit?
2:09:36
SPEAKER_23: Because what they keep on saying is the apartment.
2:09:39
SPEAKER_23: Are they saying the apartment like they were roommates?
2:09:42
SPEAKER_23: Because they also haven't used that terminology either.
2:09:45
SPEAKER_23: Or is it like a fourplex and it's just someone that lived in the same building?
2:09:48
SPEAKER_23: Any clarification in the story?
2:09:50
SPEAKER_23: That's what I keep on waiting for is like, are they roommates or not?
2:09:53
SPEAKER_23: If they're roommates, this is insane.
2:09:57
SPEAKER_23: If they're in the same building, uh, I mean, I can't pick it up.
2:10:00
SPEAKER_21: I believe that they were roommates, but but to be honest, that's what I thought I saw in the initial reporting, but I don't see that in the in the story.
2:10:08
SPEAKER_21: I would be surprised at the association if it just happened to be the same, the same building.
2:10:13
SPEAKER_21: But then again, you you know, sometimes sometimes it happens.
2:10:15
SPEAKER_20: Because to AK's point, this is like not a story.
2:10:18
SPEAKER_20: If it's if it's just like the same building, I'm like, I I don't even think that's why I would assume that they are roommates, right?
2:10:25
SPEAKER_20: Because this this would not be a story worth writing about if it's like the same apartment complex.
2:10:30
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, no, if they are roommates, just imagine any of our other any Republican congressperson whose child was roommates with someone who's clearly doing illicit illegal activities on a regular basis, like they would be blasted left and right.
2:10:46
SPEAKER_23: And it's just this crazy double standard that exists.
2:10:49
SPEAKER_23: But to have it be this blatant, especially with all of the conversation about Somali gangs, like it makes you really question what is going on in these communities that even the son of a sitting congressperson is like tied up with some illicit illegal activities.
2:11:07
SPEAKER_23: It's wild.
2:11:08
SPEAKER_21: So I'm looking at the post um that Liz Collin has pinned on here.
2:11:12
SPEAKER_21: It says multiple law enforcement sources say a search warrant was conducted Tuesday night on the apartment where the congresswoman Ilhan Omar's son lives in Minneapolis.
2:11:22
SPEAKER_21: Guns and ammo were recovered in response to our questions about what took place.
2:11:26
SPEAKER_21: MT uh MPD confirmed another man who is not the congressman's son was arrested earlier in the day.
2:11:34
SPEAKER_21: So it oh so yeah, I'm still a little bit confused because it sounds like the raid was done on the apartment where the son lives.
2:11:44
SPEAKER_21: And I'm assuming so what we're stuck on, we're stuck on the term apartment.
2:11:48
SPEAKER_21: Is it the apartment is that a roommate?
2:11:49
SPEAKER_23: Is it the is because apartment is still apart technically an apartment is not just the unit, it's literally the whole building.
2:11:58
SPEAKER_21: The way that's worded, it sounds like Like it was the apartment where Omar's son was living.
2:12:03
SPEAKER_21: The apartment unit.
2:12:04
SPEAKER_21: The apartment unit.
2:12:06
SPEAKER_17: Could we just text Liz?
2:12:06
SPEAKER_17: Does anyone want to just show us?
2:12:08
SPEAKER_17: I know.
2:12:08
SPEAKER_21: I probably should.
2:12:09
SPEAKER_17: Hey, can we just clarify real quick?
2:12:11
SPEAKER_17: Because it is insane if he's living in an apartment unit with this guy, and there's just guns being brought out of the unit.
2:12:20
SPEAKER_20: I got to imagine there's at most apartment complexes, there's a police presence in Minneapolis once per week.
2:12:29
SPEAKER_21: We'll put a pin in this one.
2:12:30
SPEAKER_21: Let's put a pin in it.
2:12:31
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, yeah.
2:12:32
SPEAKER_21: We'll put a pin in it and we'll revisit coming up on Monday's show.
2:12:36
SPEAKER_21: Let's do that.
2:12:37
SPEAKER_21: Thanks for derailing this.
2:12:38
SPEAKER_23: No, no, no.
2:12:41
SPEAKER_23: When I read it, I I read it multiple times.
2:12:44
SPEAKER_23: And that that word roommate, because I feel like that would be the lead.
2:12:48
SPEAKER_23: Like Ilhan Omar's.
2:12:50
SPEAKER_23: No, I gotcha.
2:12:51
SPEAKER_23: You know, room, you know, roommate.
2:12:52
SPEAKER_20: Just goes to show you the John Justice show, we are a fact-based program.
2:12:57
SPEAKER_20: We want to get the story right.
2:12:59
SPEAKER_23: Listen, Center the American Experiment.
2:13:01
SPEAKER_23: They do care about facts.
2:13:02
SPEAKER_23: They don't just pull things out of thin air.
2:13:05
SPEAKER_23: They very foundational and fact-based.
2:13:07
SPEAKER_20: I was willing to wildly speculate until AK brought his little sober upon it.
2:13:12
SPEAKER_23: It would have been a lot more fun if we had done it that way, right?
2:13:14
SPEAKER_23: It's because I shaved off my soul patch.
2:13:16
SPEAKER_23: I, you know, I lost part of my soul.
2:13:18
SPEAKER_23: Ah, okay.
2:13:18
SPEAKER_23: Yeah.
2:13:19
SPEAKER_23: You know what?
2:13:19
SPEAKER_21: That's why you're less intimidating.
2:13:21
SPEAKER_23: Yes.
2:13:22
SPEAKER_23: Okay.
2:13:22
SPEAKER_23: And it's because I messed it up and then I just had to go all the way.
2:13:26
SPEAKER_21: So let's let's do this.
2:13:27
SPEAKER_21: Coming up, Democrat governor wants to remove mothers and pregnant women from state health code.
2:13:32
SPEAKER_21: Of course.
2:13:33
SPEAKER_21: So we'll get into this.
2:13:35
SPEAKER_21: Also, we have 17 Gen Z slang words that used to have wildly different meanings.
2:13:40
SPEAKER_21: So considering that we have wildly different age ranges and generations, I figured this might be fun to fun to go through.
2:13:47
SPEAKER_21: So we'll get to that coming up.
2:13:48
SPEAKER_21: We'll get to more of your thoughts from the blaster line on the Freedom Friday, 612-584-4565.
2:13:53
SPEAKER_21: And of course, you can email as well john.justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
2:13:58
SPEAKER_28: Here's commentary on the latest issues facing Minnesotans from the host, policy fellows, and guests of American Experiment.
2:14:04
SPEAKER_19: I don't think any other state has this besides Minnesota, where okay, number one, you can vouch for up to eight people.
2:14:09
SPEAKER_19: Yeah.
2:14:09
SPEAKER_19: But then we also have same-day election uh registration, and we don't have provisional ballots.
2:14:14
SPEAKER_19: So those those elements all combine together.
2:14:21
SPEAKER_19: So when you register to vote, typically if you're doing it in advance, you know, your your registration is checked.
2:14:26
SPEAKER_19: So that when you actually go to you know vote on election day, you've been vetted by the state in some way.
2:14:30
SPEAKER_19: Um but when you have same day registration, obviously there's not time for that to happen.
2:14:34
SPEAKER_19: And so your vote gets counted immediately.
2:14:36
SPEAKER_19: It gets put into the pool and it's never coming back out.
2:14:39
SPEAKER_19: Other states, they will have the same day registrants use a what's called a provisional ballot.
2:14:44
SPEAKER_19: So you know they they cast their vote, but it's set off aside, and it's not actually added into the mix until their registration has been verified, which makes sense.
2:14:52
SPEAKER_19: Minnesota doesn't have that.
2:14:54
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2:15:08
SPEAKER_19: The new video that he came uh that he posted over this last weekend showed O'Keefe disguising himself in Muslim, traditional Muslim clothing, and then entering a polling place in Minneapolis using the name of a registered voter in that precinct.
2:15:21
SPEAKER_19: Now, currently under state law, a registered voter can vouch for up to eight other people on election day.
2:15:27
SPEAKER_19: Their votes.
2:15:28
SPEAKER_19: These eight people who are vouched for by one person get counted immediately.
2:15:33
SPEAKER_19: There's you know, there's no question.
2:15:35
SPEAKER_19: They're not held back in any kind of way, there's no other check that happens.
2:15:39
SPEAKER_19: If you walk in on election day and you are re not registered to vote, you can have someone next to you saying, I vouch for this person that they live in my precinct and they should vote.
2:15:46
SPEAKER_19: And that's you know, that's the end of the discussion.
2:15:49
SPEAKER_19: The exact quote from the election worker in this video was a quote, you can vouch for them as ID for them.
2:15:56
SPEAKER_19: You are the ID.
2:15:57
SPEAKER_19: That is insane.
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2:17:49
SPEAKER_10: John, you said nobody's defending Neanderthals.
2:17:52
SPEAKER_10: Did you ever see a Geico commercial?
2:17:55
SPEAKER_10: That's right.
2:17:55
SPEAKER_10: Oh, 15 years ago?
2:17:56
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, they were hilariously defending Neanderthals.
2:18:00
SPEAKER_21: That's right.
2:18:01
SPEAKER_21: I forgot.
2:18:01
SPEAKER_21: I forgot about the Geico commercials.
2:18:03
SPEAKER_21: Those were uh rather uh rather famous.
2:18:05
SPEAKER_21: Let's go here to the blaster line.
2:18:12
SPEAKER_13: Hey, have to stay there at the DLK route where you can have uh YFA.
2:18:19
SPEAKER_21: Oh, he cut saying he said uh I don't know why that uh did that get turned off.
2:18:23
SPEAKER_21: Did he call you Drew?
2:18:24
SPEAKER_21: No, he said crew.
2:18:26
SPEAKER_21: Oh, never mind.
2:18:27
SPEAKER_21: He was saying that uh you should have uh smile you're on camera.
2:18:31
SPEAKER_21: He was saying that Donald Trump smiling, saying uh smile, you're on camera.
2:18:35
SPEAKER_21: And while he's doing that, have have YMCA going and dancing to it.
2:18:39
SPEAKER_21: I said, okay, yeah, so that was a very detailed idea.
2:18:43
SPEAKER_20: Listen, AK's got a seat at the table here.
2:18:45
SPEAKER_20: This has to happen at the state fair.
2:18:48
SPEAKER_20: Well, this camera, yeah.
2:18:49
SPEAKER_20: This is a great idea.
2:18:50
SPEAKER_21: This needs this need this needs to this needs to happen immediately.
2:18:53
SPEAKER_23: I'll be making phone calls when I leave today.
2:18:54
SPEAKER_21: Okay, you don't have to give credit to me.
2:18:56
SPEAKER_21: I mean, I'll be upset if you don't, but you don't have to give credit to me.
2:18:59
SPEAKER_21: I'll be I'll be hurt and offended and probably cry.
2:19:02
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
2:19:02
SPEAKER_21: Maybe I'll make a new AI song about it.
2:19:04
SPEAKER_21: Uh-huh.
2:19:04
SPEAKER_21: Maybe I can do that.
2:19:05
SPEAKER_21: Has some inspiration.
2:19:06
SPEAKER_21: Let's go here.
2:19:06
SPEAKER_21: Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro.
2:19:09
SPEAKER_21: I'm getting ahead of myself on here, but Josh Shapiro, I had thought would be like a contender, like almost top of the list when it comes to potential Democrat presidential candidates.
2:19:21
SPEAKER_21: And now to I agree, Max.
2:19:23
SPEAKER_20: No, the guy's a lunatic.
2:19:24
SPEAKER_20: He loves Israel too much.
2:19:26
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, he's not.
2:19:27
SPEAKER_20: I'm telling you, he's an idiot.
2:19:28
SPEAKER_20: The Democrats will not support him because he's Jewish.
2:19:30
SPEAKER_23: That's why that's why Kamala Harris didn't pick him.
2:19:32
SPEAKER_23: She was going to pick him.
2:19:34
SPEAKER_20: And they were like, I know Don was making a different point here.
2:19:37
SPEAKER_20: I just gotta say, like, the the far left, literally, the Palestine-Israel stuff has so occupied the mind of the people who vote in these primaries.
2:19:46
SPEAKER_20: Josh Shapiro, for the same reason he was not picked as Kamala Harris's vice president candidate, is the reason he will not be their presidential nominee.
2:19:55
SPEAKER_20: He is Jewish and they will not pick him.
2:19:57
SPEAKER_21: I had thought that he was more, I don't want to say moderate because I know I'll get pushback on that.
2:20:02
SPEAKER_21: That's not what I mean, but I thought that he was a more mainstream Democrat presidential candidate.
2:20:07
SPEAKER_21: And maybe it's because of what you mentioned, because as I get into this story of him removing mothers and pregnant women from state health codes, watching some of the commentary from him, I'm going, oh no, he's just as hackish and as far left leaning DSA communist as the as the rest of them.
2:20:23
SPEAKER_21: Um, to that point, the Democrats administration has removed the female terminology and replaced it with transgender inclusive language in a proposed overhaul of Pennsylvania's health code.
2:20:35
SPEAKER_21: The terms pregnant woman and mother of a newborn have been replaced with pregnant or postpartum individual.
2:20:43
SPEAKER_21: Throughout the 502-page proposal, which was announced on August 8th, women who have given birth to a stillborn baby are no longer called mother, but are instead referred to as postpartum individual in the proposed regulation changes.
2:21:02
SPEAKER_17: Gross.
2:21:03
SPEAKER_23: We're doing this 2026.
2:21:04
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, this is very woke one.
2:21:05
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, yeah.
2:21:06
SPEAKER_23: Very, very woke one.
2:21:07
SPEAKER_23: But you made that point a few Freedom Fridays ago that like it's not over.
2:21:12
SPEAKER_23: Like woke is still there.
2:21:15
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, it goes through lulls where it's not as prominent.
2:21:18
SPEAKER_23: But I think to your point, Max, because the you know, if you want to say like the Achilles Hill for Josh Shapiro, is that he's Jewish, too bad for you, Democrats.
2:21:28
SPEAKER_23: If you're Jewish and you hate Israel, you're fine.
2:21:31
SPEAKER_23: If you're Jewish and you're like Israel ambivalent, you're basically a Zionist chill.
2:21:36
SPEAKER_23: And Josh Shapiro happens to fall in this category where he's like, I would say, like pro-Israeli-ish.
2:21:43
SPEAKER_23: And so because of that, he's gonna have to go far left on every other issue, hoping that he can stay somewhat relevant.
2:21:48
SPEAKER_23: I think that his actual feelings are that this is nonsensical, but he's gotta try and find a lane somewhere, and so he's gonna go with like, you know, chest feeding versus breastfeeding and you know, whatever, like birthing person versus mother.
2:22:05
SPEAKER_23: And I think the average person is like, this is stupid.
2:22:08
SPEAKER_23: We're not doing this again.
2:22:10
SPEAKER_23: They're never gonna call someone by that.
2:22:12
SPEAKER_23: It ever.
2:22:13
SPEAKER_20: It reminds me of how quickly Latin X went away or Latinx.
2:22:17
SPEAKER_20: Oh, yeah.
2:22:18
SPEAKER_20: How like they just abandoned that when they were like, they pulled like Latino people, and Latino people are like, what the hell, what the hell is this?
2:22:25
SPEAKER_17: Hated it.
2:22:26
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, maybe someone asked a real woman, like, how do you feel about this?
2:22:28
SPEAKER_17: And they were like, uh, weird?
2:22:30
SPEAKER_17: That's gross.
2:22:31
SPEAKER_21: Like, do I do do either of you get, I mean, because getting offended is a choice.
2:22:35
SPEAKER_21: Do either of you get offended or you just kind of go, what whatever?
2:22:38
SPEAKER_21: I mean, as as women.
2:22:40
SPEAKER_19: I don't get offended.
2:22:41
SPEAKER_19: I I just think it's stripping away something really, you know, beautiful and wonderful about being a woman as opposed to a man.
2:22:47
SPEAKER_19: And you think about the human race and and celebrating the miracle of of life, and and you're just ripping away that beauty, reducing it to the pure biological function, and then applying it to men as well.
2:22:59
SPEAKER_19: I think I get more upset and kind of grossed out by the intention behind it than offended.
2:23:04
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, I think it's just very insidious because their goal is also to try and claim that there's no difference between the sexes, right?
2:23:11
SPEAKER_17: And that goes farther than just this kind of inclusive language.
2:23:15
SPEAKER_17: It's that they want no gender roles whatsoever.
2:23:18
SPEAKER_17: And I think that that is really kind of insidious and getting to the heart of the nuclear family and the thing that makes, you know, that has made America successful and makes kids and families successful is the structure of a nuclear family.
2:23:30
SPEAKER_21: The American College of Obstetricians and gynecologists told doctors to doing that thing with my fingers, make their offices inclusive and inviting to all individuals who need this type of health care and to educate themselves and the medical teams about the appropriate language and the healthcare needs of transgender patients in an online statement.
2:23:50
SPEAKER_23: I just it's like you're looking at a very obvious male dressed like a female and saying, ma'am, I don't want to use the term mother because it might offend you because you'll never be one.
2:24:03
SPEAKER_23: Like it's it's just the insanity behind woke still to this day trips me up for like even at its maximum.
2:24:11
SPEAKER_23: Let's just say it's like whatever, one and a half percent of uh people in the United States, which is is a high number, um, is trans.
2:24:19
SPEAKER_23: Like, that's what you're so focused on versus all of the actual like biological females that are mothers, you're not worried at all about being offensive to them.
2:24:31
SPEAKER_23: That's what has made no sense to me in this entire argument at all.
2:24:36
SPEAKER_20: And it it actually speaks to something deeper philosophically that AK brought up earlier in the show.
2:24:42
SPEAKER_20: And it's that if Democrats return to team normal, there would be a real opportunity for them.
2:24:48
SPEAKER_20: If you had a Democrat who said, I believe because right now a lot of young people feel like the economy is rigged against them, they feel like they're not getting the shake that their parents had in the country, there would be a real opportunity for a working class Democrat, not a fake working class Democrat, a real one who said, We're not gonna indulge the trans stuff anymore.
2:25:08
SPEAKER_20: Borders should not be open, and you should have a right to your firearms, right?
2:25:13
SPEAKER_20: If there was a Democrat who could do those things, they would have a real opportunity in this environment to actually make some moves politically.
2:25:20
SPEAKER_20: But their ideology prevents them, their base ideology prevents them from taking any kind of normal position.
2:25:29
SPEAKER_20: To your point, AK, do you think Josh Shapiro actually believes this?
2:25:32
SPEAKER_20: No.
2:25:33
SPEAKER_20: Just north of Josh Shapiro was the main Senate candidate who said he could menstruate out of his butt.
2:25:39
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
2:25:39
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
2:25:40
SPEAKER_20: Okay.
2:25:40
SPEAKER_20: Do you believe that Josh Shapiro actually believes these things?
2:25:44
SPEAKER_20: No.
2:25:44
SPEAKER_20: No, he does not.
2:25:45
SPEAKER_20: He is trying to indulge a psychotic base.
2:25:49
SPEAKER_20: And they're all going to have to do that in less than a year.
2:25:52
SPEAKER_20: As the presidential races gear up, you are going to hear horrors beyond your wildest imagination that will prevent these Democrats from actually getting in touch with real American people.
2:26:03
SPEAKER_21: Well, and the part of it that that disturbs me, it's by extension.
2:26:08
SPEAKER_21: And that is, you know, as somebody that goes in yearly, uh, sometimes more than that, you know, for checkups on my on my heart, I get CT and echocardiograms, you know, the the doctors obviously take an oath, you know, do no harm to help their patients.
2:26:21
SPEAKER_21: And and again, by extension from this, and there's a comment that I want to play from the blaster line, but it's so disturbing to me that there would ever be a doctor talking to an individual that, say, was going through before we even get to the children aspect of it, anybody under the age of 18 that's retreat receiving any sort of transgender treatment, I believe that's child abuse.
2:26:39
SPEAKER_21: So we'll just set that aside.
2:26:40
SPEAKER_21: But even adults, you know, I would hope, and I don't think it's happening, but I would hope those doctors are having conversations with those individuals going through various transitions and explaining to them the long-term potential damage that they are doing to their body.
2:26:52
SPEAKER_21: As I've ranted about before, we we have very fragile bodies.
2:26:57
SPEAKER_21: You know, God made us very specific.
2:27:00
SPEAKER_21: He designed us to function in a certain way, but it is fragile.
2:27:03
SPEAKER_21: You do have to take care of your of yourself.
2:27:05
SPEAKER_21: And it's already difficult to just live a normal, regular, healthy life, let alone going and doing damage to yourself, especially by injecting chemicals or making physical, making physical changes.
2:27:17
SPEAKER_21: And I can't help but wonder when you see this type of inclusive language, if it isn't carrying over to doctors who are not expressing the dangers that individuals are actually doing to their bodies by going through these horrible procedures.
2:27:29
SPEAKER_21: That's the part of it that that drives me the most nuts.
2:27:32
SPEAKER_20: The wild back and forth on that, too, is that for coming out and saying something like that, John, if you did that four years ago, I bet your license would be under investigation.
2:27:42
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, 100%.
2:27:43
SPEAKER_20: And now, now you are having doctors being sued by people who have detransitioned and they are winning these cases.
2:27:51
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
2:27:52
SPEAKER_20: That is how topsy-turvy this American political cultural moment is.
2:27:57
SPEAKER_20: Is again, years ago, you would have had your license stripped for coming out and warning of the dangers of trans surgeries.
2:28:04
SPEAKER_20: I depending on the state, I guarantee it.
2:28:07
SPEAKER_20: And now the reality, because we're finally back to some semblance of reality, it's the great moment of Donald Trump, is that we're actually living in a non-woke era where you are getting sued for it and losing now.
2:28:20
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:28:20
SPEAKER_20: So I'll just say for somebody like Josh Shapiro to sign on to an agreement like this, like indulging something that was popular four years ago and is not now, it is only to appease this radical base who has stayed in woke 1.0.
2:28:35
SPEAKER_20: Woke 1.0 is the religion.
2:28:37
SPEAKER_20: It's it's forever, it's not something they can move past.
2:28:41
SPEAKER_14: Good morning, John, gang, Holly, front of the show and Blaine.
2:28:44
SPEAKER_14: I actually do get kind of offended, um, or would get kind of offended if they tried to strip me of the title Mother, because honestly, being a mother is the best title I've ever had.
2:28:55
SPEAKER_14: I am not a birthing person.
2:28:58
SPEAKER_14: Um, it's all done.
2:28:59
SPEAKER_14: Thanks.
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2:29:51
SPEAKER_21: The new and constantly evolving slang nowadays can confuse people.
2:29:55
SPEAKER_21: Older adults have another bone to pick with it.
2:29:58
SPEAKER_21: Recently, an individual on Reddit asked older adults of the community to share words or phrases that younger people have hijacked that bother them.
2:30:08
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
2:30:09
SPEAKER_21: Never thought about some of these, but there are slang words in this list and phrases that used to mean one thing before, but now they mean something totally new.
2:30:17
SPEAKER_21: Now, some of these phrases, even as the oldest of the group here, I was unfamiliar with, but number one on the list was body count.
2:30:24
SPEAKER_21: So, first off, is body count a phrase that is used?
2:30:26
SPEAKER_19: Yes, sorry.
2:30:27
SPEAKER_19: I was expecting to not understand any of these.
2:30:29
SPEAKER_19: So I'm glad I'm starting out with one that I know.
2:30:31
SPEAKER_21: Okay, so if I say body count, what does it mean to you, Gen Z or?
2:30:35
SPEAKER_19: It means how many people someone has had sex with.
2:30:38
SPEAKER_21: Okay, all right.
2:30:38
SPEAKER_21: Is that the kind of the consensus with everybody else?
2:30:41
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
2:30:42
SPEAKER_20: So well, I I know both meanings.
2:30:44
SPEAKER_20: Okay, so what's the what's the other button?
2:30:46
SPEAKER_20: Body count used to mean how many people you have killed, like in the mafia, right?
2:30:51
SPEAKER_20: Okay, so that's where the Redditor went.
2:30:52
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:30:52
SPEAKER_21: So the Redditor went, and I think they said the Gen Z version of it is how many people you've killed, whereas the older version is how many people that you've done hooky talk.
2:31:01
SPEAKER_21: No, you got that mixed up.
2:31:02
SPEAKER_21: It's it was the other way.
2:31:04
SPEAKER_21: Yes.
2:31:04
SPEAKER_21: Yes.
2:31:04
SPEAKER_20: The old version was how many people you killed.
2:31:06
SPEAKER_20: Think old like Oh, I guess you're right.
2:31:08
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
2:31:09
SPEAKER_20: Or I watch his body count.
2:31:11
SPEAKER_21: Ice T's rock rock band.
2:31:12
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:31:12
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:31:13
SPEAKER_19: If I was watching a movie and some mobster asked another mobster what his body count was, I'd be like, that's a good point.
2:31:20
SPEAKER_21: I could see it both ways.
2:31:21
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
2:31:22
SPEAKER_21: So that's okay.
2:31:23
SPEAKER_21: So number two, you ate that.
2:31:25
SPEAKER_21: Oh, yeah.
2:31:26
SPEAKER_21: Sure.
2:31:27
SPEAKER_21: Killed it.
2:31:27
SPEAKER_19: Yeah.
2:31:28
SPEAKER_19: You you nailed it.
2:31:29
SPEAKER_19: Yeah.
2:31:29
SPEAKER_19: Okay.
2:31:29
SPEAKER_19: You did, yeah.
2:31:30
SPEAKER_21: I don't remember ever using that term.
2:31:33
SPEAKER_21: That's a new one.
2:31:34
SPEAKER_21: Somebody said, I'm confused by people saying you ate that as a way to say you did that well.
2:31:38
SPEAKER_21: Growing up, anytime someone used eat in that context, it usually meant something bad, like eat blank or eat my dust.
2:31:46
SPEAKER_23: Okay, that makes sense.
2:31:47
SPEAKER_23: Like that's the old version.
2:31:49
SPEAKER_23: I still use that like to eat.
2:31:50
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, you've eat it.
2:31:51
SPEAKER_23: Oh, he already ate it.
2:31:52
SPEAKER_23: Like, yeah, you can't get it.
2:31:54
SPEAKER_19: Oh, I've used it that way too.
2:31:55
SPEAKER_23: Okay, you're eating the pavement because your face just eating it.
2:31:58
SPEAKER_19: Yeah, yes, eating it.
2:32:00
SPEAKER_19: Falling down.
2:32:00
SPEAKER_20: Okay.
2:32:01
SPEAKER_20: Now it's like, oh, girl, you ate on the dance floor.
2:32:04
SPEAKER_20: You ate that.
2:32:05
SPEAKER_30: Oh my god.
2:32:05
SPEAKER_30: Oh, eat it up.
2:32:06
SPEAKER_21: Okay, yeah.
2:32:07
SPEAKER_21: I've never used that.
2:32:08
SPEAKER_21: I've never used that term that way.
2:32:11
SPEAKER_20: You should have had an AK on the camera because you had some hand motions with that.
2:32:17
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, there you go.
2:32:18
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
2:32:18
SPEAKER_21: Uh number three is out of pocket.
2:32:20
SPEAKER_21: So what does out of pocket mean?
2:32:22
SPEAKER_21: Oh, yeah.
2:32:22
SPEAKER_21: Um to the Gen Zers here.
2:32:24
SPEAKER_17: Like crazy out of control, or like, you know, yeah, saying something that was just like a little bit too far.
2:32:30
SPEAKER_19: Yes, too far that I went a little too far.
2:32:32
SPEAKER_21: So for my generation, it was you you're paying for you have to pay for something on your own.
2:32:37
SPEAKER_21: Oh shit.
2:32:37
SPEAKER_21: Okay, yeah, yeah.
2:32:38
SPEAKER_21: I have another one.
2:32:39
SPEAKER_21: I've never used it that way.
2:32:41
SPEAKER_21: There's another.
2:32:42
SPEAKER_17: You've never said out of you've never said that it was so out of pocket.
2:32:44
SPEAKER_17: That's a good thing.
2:32:46
SPEAKER_21: No, no.
2:32:47
SPEAKER_21: I would do, I would typically use it meaning I had to pay for it myself.
2:32:50
SPEAKER_20: I'd pay for it.
2:32:51
SPEAKER_19: I use it both ways.
2:32:52
SPEAKER_20: I use the third way.
2:32:53
SPEAKER_20: When you're out of pocket, it means you're out of the office.
2:32:56
SPEAKER_20: You're not available to be contacted.
2:32:58
SPEAKER_23: There's that too.
2:32:59
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, yeah.
2:33:01
SPEAKER_20: I'm out of pocket today.
2:33:02
SPEAKER_20: I'm I'm going to the zoo with my kids.
2:33:03
SPEAKER_23: I'll usually say like in the cut, but out of pocket, I could see that that that could also be there.
2:33:08
SPEAKER_23: But yeah, what if when I use out of pocket, my context is yeah, it's like, dude, you are misbehaving.
2:33:16
SPEAKER_23: This is not the time or the place.
2:33:18
SPEAKER_23: Like you're just acting not socially acceptable.
2:33:22
SPEAKER_23: You probably on the TISM.
2:33:23
SPEAKER_17: A lot of people at the state fair are out of pocket.
2:33:26
SPEAKER_23: On the TISM.
2:33:27
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, man.
2:33:28
SPEAKER_21: You're on that.
2:33:29
SPEAKER_21: Somewhere on that TISM.
2:33:31
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
2:33:31
SPEAKER_21: Uh crashing out.
2:33:32
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:33:33
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:33:33
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
2:33:33
SPEAKER_21: I like this one.
2:33:34
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
2:33:34
SPEAKER_21: So what does crashing out mean to the gen to the Gen Zers?
2:33:38
SPEAKER_19: Like having a freak out, okay?
2:33:41
SPEAKER_19: A bit of a just a little bit of a breakdown.
2:33:42
SPEAKER_23: Okay.
2:33:43
SPEAKER_23: Yeah.
2:33:43
SPEAKER_23: All right.
2:33:44
SPEAKER_19: Of like a stress panic reaction.
2:33:45
SPEAKER_23: Every pro Lindsey Clancy TikTok is a woman crashing out.
2:33:50
SPEAKER_23: Yeah.
2:33:51
SPEAKER_21: So when I was younger, and I had to, I think I'm going to have to couple it that way because I do, I have heard this terminology used this way.
2:33:57
SPEAKER_21: But when I was younger, it was not used for that.
2:34:00
SPEAKER_21: It meant as a means to say I was falling asleep.
2:34:02
SPEAKER_21: I'm crashing out.
2:34:03
SPEAKER_21: I'm going to bed.
2:34:04
SPEAKER_21: I'm taking a nap.
2:34:04
SPEAKER_23: Oh man, I cried.
2:34:05
SPEAKER_23: When I was younger, I never used it yet.
2:34:08
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
2:34:09
SPEAKER_21: Um the next one says, I miss when hooking up simply meant meeting someone.
2:34:15
SPEAKER_21: Like, let's hook up later at the mall.
2:34:17
SPEAKER_21: I'm a college professor.
2:34:18
SPEAKER_21: I've made a bunch of apparently hilarious statements in class using this type of lingo before anyone explained to me the phrase has changed its ruin for me now.
2:34:27
SPEAKER_17: That's one like I feel like my dad has used, and I've been like, you should switch.
2:34:30
SPEAKER_17: Just say it differently than that.
2:34:32
SPEAKER_21: You're meeting up with someone.
2:34:34
SPEAKER_17: Yeah.
2:34:35
SPEAKER_21: So does Gen Z do meeting up now, or does Gen Z do means that they are making love or hooking just hooking up, making out.
2:34:42
SPEAKER_23: Doing sexual things.
2:34:43
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
2:34:43
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:34:44
SPEAKER_21: So that was that was it was that way when I was growing up.
2:34:46
SPEAKER_21: Hooking up was I hooked up with somebody.
2:34:48
SPEAKER_17: Oh.
2:34:48
SPEAKER_17: Well, there you go.
2:34:49
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, so I used it.
2:34:50
SPEAKER_17: I don't feel like you're that old, John.
2:34:53
SPEAKER_21: Well, well, unfortunately, when we end up having conversations in the middle of the week, and nine times out of ten, there's a disconnect, especially between Devin and Isaac.
2:35:01
SPEAKER_21: It happens all the time.
2:35:02
SPEAKER_21: I think you two were there may be a male-female thing going on here.
2:35:05
SPEAKER_21: Maybe that's the difference.
2:35:07
SPEAKER_21: Because I feel like you two are more inclined to align with some of the things that are attached to me being older, but it seems like Devin and Isaac are like lost half the time on the references that I'm doing that I do during the week.
2:35:20
SPEAKER_21: Interesting.
2:35:20
SPEAKER_21: So maybe it's well, they do say that women mature faster than men, or right?
2:35:24
SPEAKER_23: Right?
2:35:24
SPEAKER_21: Isn't that true?
2:35:25
SPEAKER_21: So is that that's what they say.
2:35:26
SPEAKER_20: I think you both got some sense from the other side of the room.
2:35:29
SPEAKER_20: You both got some old souls too, yeah, though.
2:35:31
SPEAKER_20: Like there's some tradition.
2:35:33
SPEAKER_21: So do the youngins, I'm just gonna go that route, do people still use the term making out?
2:35:39
SPEAKER_21: Is that something that's even in the vernacular for younger generations?
2:35:42
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, but you know there's a new one for are kids even making out anymore.
2:35:45
SPEAKER_21: I mean, they're all on their phones all the questions.
2:35:49
SPEAKER_19: I just saw an article.
2:35:49
SPEAKER_19: There's so many like panic articles over the dating habits of Gen Z eers.
2:35:53
SPEAKER_19: It's like, no, the kids aren't making out anymore.
2:35:55
SPEAKER_19: It's like, okay, I don't know if it's true.
2:35:57
SPEAKER_17: But yeah.
2:35:58
SPEAKER_17: That was gross.
2:35:59
SPEAKER_17: But you're right.
2:36:00
SPEAKER_17: That article is always saying things like that.
2:36:02
SPEAKER_17: Yes, and it's like stop it.
2:36:04
SPEAKER_17: You yeah, uh, but there is a new term for the hooking up, which is cracking.
2:36:08
unknown: Yep.
2:36:09
SPEAKER_21: Oh, what's cracking?
2:36:10
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:36:11
SPEAKER_21: That's for that's for that's for hooking up.
2:36:13
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, like they're cracking, like I don't think I'm using it quite.
2:36:15
SPEAKER_17: Can you, Isaac?
2:36:17
SPEAKER_20: They're cracking.
2:36:18
SPEAKER_17: Okay, I'm using it right.
2:36:19
SPEAKER_20: Isaac's Isaac's got a specific example he wants to he wants to use.
2:36:22
SPEAKER_21: Is it like that couple is cracking?
2:36:25
unknown: No, it's like you're going to crack.
2:36:27
SPEAKER_21: You're going to crack.
2:36:28
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, I don't know.
2:36:29
SPEAKER_21: I'm not like that.
2:36:30
SPEAKER_21: Sounds like a destination.
2:36:31
SPEAKER_19: That one I don't, I'm not familiar with.
2:36:32
SPEAKER_21: Where are you heading?
2:36:33
SPEAKER_21: Well, I'm heading to the crack.
2:36:34
SPEAKER_20: Sound like very, very literal.
2:36:37
SPEAKER_17: That's that's what the youth search is.
2:36:40
SPEAKER_20: Crackville's the new pound town.
2:36:42
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:36:43
SPEAKER_23: Poundtown.
2:36:44
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, going to pound town.
2:36:45
SPEAKER_20: Knocking boots has moved off of the vernacular.
2:36:48
SPEAKER_23: That was like doing boots.
2:36:51
SPEAKER_23: Knockin' boots was huge.
2:36:52
SPEAKER_19: I never understood it.
2:36:55
SPEAKER_19: I never understood the terminology.
2:36:56
SPEAKER_23: There's that Jody's that Jodice song.
2:36:59
SPEAKER_23: Knock, knock, knock in my boots.
2:37:01
SPEAKER_23: Okay, yeah.
2:37:02
SPEAKER_23: Yeah.
2:37:02
SPEAKER_21: All right.
2:37:03
SPEAKER_21: Let's go here to the blaster line this morning on the John Justice show.
2:37:07
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I'm wondering if anyone there can explain the variation out-of-pocket wallet.
2:37:12
SPEAKER_10: Out-of-pocket wallet?
2:37:14
SPEAKER_10: Out-of-pocket wallet.
2:37:15
SPEAKER_30: That's great.
2:37:16
SPEAKER_30: I like that.
2:37:17
SPEAKER_21: All right, next on the list, the whole red pill slash blue pill.
2:37:21
SPEAKER_21: I take a huge issue with this one, by the way.
2:37:22
SPEAKER_21: The article says that one really ticks me off, says the writer.
2:37:26
SPEAKER_21: It originated with the Matrix in 1999.
2:37:28
SPEAKER_21: I'm actually in the middle of a rewatch of those movies.
2:37:30
SPEAKER_21: And now it's been hijacked by incels and male supremacy groups to describe anything they disagree with.
2:37:36
SPEAKER_21: No, it's always been red pill, blue pill reference to the matrix meaning, you know, do you want to be in reality?
2:37:43
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:37:43
SPEAKER_21: Escape reality or stay in reality.
2:37:46
SPEAKER_21: I've never heard that terminology used to differ me.
2:37:48
SPEAKER_17: Do they mean black pill?
2:37:50
SPEAKER_17: There's also black pill, I think.
2:37:51
SPEAKER_17: Black pill and white pill.
2:37:52
SPEAKER_17: White pill.
2:37:52
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, white pill.
2:37:53
SPEAKER_20: And clear pill.
2:37:54
SPEAKER_20: So let's let's go through the pills real quick.
2:37:56
SPEAKER_17: Sometimes HK throws one in there and that's like no one else has heard of, and we just move past it.
2:38:00
SPEAKER_17: It's like, maybe.
2:38:01
SPEAKER_20: Wait, what did you just say?
2:38:02
SPEAKER_20: Clear pill.
2:38:03
SPEAKER_20: What's a clear pill one?
2:38:04
SPEAKER_23: Clear pill is just like clear pill is just like, yep, we're just gonna be normal.
2:38:12
SPEAKER_23: It's clear.
2:38:13
SPEAKER_23: We're gonna be normal.
2:38:13
SPEAKER_21: I've never heard clear pill.
2:38:14
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, yeah.
2:38:15
SPEAKER_20: Okay, but Maxie wanted to go through the pills.
2:38:17
SPEAKER_20: I actually want to defer to AK to give us the dictionary definition of all modern pills when you hear them online.
2:38:24
SPEAKER_20: So let's start with let's start with let's start with black pill.
2:38:27
SPEAKER_20: What does black pill mean?
2:38:28
SPEAKER_23: Black pill is when you're like, yeah, man, this is the worst possible scenario.
2:38:33
SPEAKER_23: It's very, very pessimistic.
2:38:35
SPEAKER_23: Uh, and it means that basically like the future's bleak.
2:38:38
SPEAKER_23: Okay, white pill nihilism?
2:38:40
SPEAKER_23: White pill is the future is is very positive.
2:38:43
SPEAKER_23: Okay.
2:38:43
SPEAKER_23: And there's amazing things, and we're very, very optimistic.
2:38:46
SPEAKER_21: That's that's it's like a glass half full, glass half empty cup.
2:38:49
SPEAKER_23: No, no, it's just glass is 100% full and everything is amazing.
2:38:54
SPEAKER_21: Oh, I meant I meant black pill, blue pill combination.
2:38:56
SPEAKER_20: No, no, but here we go, here we go.
2:38:58
SPEAKER_20: Red pill then.
2:38:59
SPEAKER_23: Red pill means that you are awakening to the reality that exists where you have the ability to break away from the structure that is keeping locked in like the matrix.
2:39:10
SPEAKER_23: And then blue pill, is that used online?
2:39:12
SPEAKER_23: Blue pill kind of is used as a pejorative to say someone that is refusing to want to accept that they're being controlled, and they instead would rather just be part of the system because it's easier and they want to be cucked by the system, if that's the term that we'll probably throw in with the people that would use in the red pill for a blue pill.
2:39:31
SPEAKER_20: And then we got clear pill from AK, and he just described that.
2:39:33
SPEAKER_20: So there you go.
2:39:34
SPEAKER_20: There's the vernacular when you're talking about pills online.
2:39:37
SPEAKER_20: When you see somebody who's saying I'm black pilling today doesn't mean they're they're taking some drug dark medicine.
2:39:42
SPEAKER_21: And this is gonna make for a fantastic clip that you can watch on replay at the new social media accounts for the John Justice show of John Justice show at both Instagram and TikTok.
2:39:52
SPEAKER_21: This is very important stuff.
2:39:54
SPEAKER_21: Very important.
2:39:55
SPEAKER_21: Yes.
2:39:55
SPEAKER_21: Uh, number seven on the list was POV.
2:39:58
SPEAKER_21: Now the article says I know.
2:40:01
SPEAKER_21: Really?
2:40:01
SPEAKER_21: Just bear with me.
2:40:02
SPEAKER_19: This is misused so frequently.
2:40:04
SPEAKER_21: So they say this is a very specific term from film and screenwriting that means point of view, as in literally filmed if we are seeing things through the eyes of the character.
2:40:13
SPEAKER_21: Now, this term just gets thrown around seemingly in every TikTok video as a general term for someone's viewpoint or opinion.
2:40:20
SPEAKER_19: It's so annoying.
2:40:21
SPEAKER_19: I I that that the mis wide, wide misuse of the POV abbreviation.
2:40:26
SPEAKER_17: You are like you're like a grammar supremacist.
2:40:28
SPEAKER_17: This is like my husband.
2:40:29
SPEAKER_17: We always said he can't appreciate the POV TikToks because he's like, that's a misuse of the you know, I'm like, it's knocked out of grammar.
2:40:36
SPEAKER_17: Don't understand how people, it's not that difficult.
2:40:39
SPEAKER_17: I'm sorry.
2:40:40
SPEAKER_17: But now it's used as like, you know, if you film a video and it's like POV and it's like, you know, you should imagine yourself as you're watching the video as the person who's filming the video.
2:40:48
SPEAKER_19: It's just merged to mean something else, essentially.
2:40:51
SPEAKER_19: People, it's it's become its own entity.
2:40:53
SPEAKER_21: I'm kind of with Grace on this.
2:40:54
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, it shouldn't be used that.
2:40:55
SPEAKER_21: It shouldn't be used.
2:40:56
SPEAKER_23: I I get it, but the the reason why it's like I'm giving my point on the in and here's my view, right?
2:41:03
SPEAKER_23: Which is a redundant thing.
2:41:05
SPEAKER_19: I that's why when people start using it when I was making a lot of videos on TikTok, I would just say this is my opinion, because that's yeah, the predecessor to this is basically the hot take, which people still use, but like that would be a more accurate introduction for for like how it's being used now, which is yeah, just here's my take on this.
2:41:23
SPEAKER_23: And the reason why it's happened to me is because plenty of people make TikToks where they're not expressing any viewpoint, it's just their you know putting on makeup or like something like postpartum crash outs throwing ice into a bathtub.
2:41:36
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, yeah, but that's it's to let people know that you're about to impart your opinion on a topic versus making just random commentary on on some specific point happening in life.
2:41:50
SPEAKER_21: Are we gonna get that verdict today, by the way, in that horrible mother that murdered her children?
2:41:55
SPEAKER_17: Do you think it's gonna take them a long time?
2:41:57
SPEAKER_20: I hope not.
2:41:58
SPEAKER_21: I hope not.
2:41:59
SPEAKER_21: I can't believe it's a good thing.
2:42:01
SPEAKER_20: She should be thrown in prison.
2:42:02
SPEAKER_17: So she should be worse than that.
2:42:05
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, she should be a lot of the words on the terms of service.
2:42:09
SPEAKER_17: I don't care why you killed your three kids.
2:42:12
SPEAKER_17: Doesn't matter to me.
2:42:12
SPEAKER_17: You killed your children.
2:42:13
SPEAKER_17: Yeah.
2:42:14
SPEAKER_21: All right, let's go uh here to before we move on to more of these uh slang words, because there's yeah, a couple here that we definitely need to get to.
2:42:20
SPEAKER_21: Let's go here to the blaster line on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment on a Freedom Friday.
2:42:26
SPEAKER_32: Hey, good morning, guys.
2:42:27
SPEAKER_32: Hey, how about this blast from the past?
2:42:29
SPEAKER_32: Maybe you even John are too young for this one.
2:42:32
SPEAKER_32: Anybody remember the term necking?
2:42:35
SPEAKER_32: Necking.
2:42:37
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, I feel like the younger generations, I feel like they're I feel like they're not necking.
2:42:42
SPEAKER_20: It's like, what's necking?
2:42:45
SPEAKER_21: Are young kids still doing hickeys?
2:42:47
SPEAKER_21: Is hickey still a thing?
2:42:48
SPEAKER_21: Uh is that still a thing anymore?
2:42:49
SPEAKER_23: In the hood and trailer parks, yeah.
2:42:51
SPEAKER_23: Along with along with making out.
2:42:52
SPEAKER_21: I just think that we've lost the art of all those things.
2:42:54
SPEAKER_19: I don't think kids are you should write an article about it.
2:42:57
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, necking necking's like a 50s, 60s.
2:42:59
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, it's an extension of making out.
2:43:01
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, it just it just means like because your necks are like touching each other and kissing the neck or whatever, or you're focused on the neck area, you know?
2:43:08
SPEAKER_23: Just things like that.
2:43:09
SPEAKER_23: No?
2:43:10
SPEAKER_21: Let's move on to the next one, shall we?
2:43:11
SPEAKER_21: Number eight.
2:43:12
SPEAKER_21: So goat has completely flipped from being someone you blamed for messing up, short for scapegoat, to stating something is the best greatest of all time.
2:43:23
SPEAKER_21: I don't remember ever it being the the scapegoat.
2:43:26
SPEAKER_21: No, I never, yeah, I've never liked the version.
2:43:29
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, this this flipped overnight almost in sports.
2:43:33
SPEAKER_20: Uh the goat greatest of all time.
2:43:35
SPEAKER_20: I've never heard it used the other way.
2:43:37
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, sports.
2:43:38
SPEAKER_20: I remember growing up, and like when you said um, when you said he's he's the goat or he he got goated or whatever, you know, like that meant that you messed up severely.
2:43:51
SPEAKER_20: And then in sports it changed real quick.
2:43:54
SPEAKER_20: I feel like this was like an overnight thing where the goat became transferred from a bad thing to a really good thing.
2:44:00
SPEAKER_20: And it happened really quick in sports specifically.
2:44:03
SPEAKER_23: Basically, from my recollection, um, it was I think it was Brady.
2:44:08
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, Tom Brady.
2:44:09
SPEAKER_23: That's what I was thinking.
2:44:10
SPEAKER_23: Where like at first, like, this is the someone said something like greatest of all time.
2:44:15
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, that's where I think it's definitely.
2:44:19
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:44:20
SPEAKER_21: Uh next on the list at number 10 is Cornhole.
2:44:24
SPEAKER_21: Everybody got quiet.
2:44:25
SPEAKER_21: So, okay, this is interesting.
2:44:27
SPEAKER_19: Yeah, well, I'm like, what meaning do I not know?
2:44:29
SPEAKER_21: So it's uh now a game played with just bean beanbags.
2:44:34
SPEAKER_21: According to the story, it used to refer specifically and exclusively to hookie-taw in an uncomfortable place.
2:44:41
SPEAKER_23: Yes, the the beehole.
2:44:42
SPEAKER_23: Um, because you gotta remember Beavis.
2:44:44
SPEAKER_23: Not like the back of a Volkswagen.
2:44:45
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, the beehole.
2:44:46
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, but it if you remember Beavis and Butthead, okay.
2:44:50
SPEAKER_23: Beavis used to pull his shirt up.
2:44:52
SPEAKER_22: Oh, I'm the great corn holio.
2:44:54
SPEAKER_22: I need TP for my bunghole.
2:44:55
SPEAKER_23: Yeah.
2:44:55
SPEAKER_23: TP for my bunghole.
2:44:56
SPEAKER_23: Yes.
2:44:57
SPEAKER_21: But that was corn, but this is but this was corn.
2:44:59
SPEAKER_21: But he was the right, he was the great corn julio.
2:45:01
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:45:01
SPEAKER_21: That's right.
2:45:01
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
2:45:01
SPEAKER_21: Wow.
2:45:03
SPEAKER_19: Let's do this.
2:45:03
SPEAKER_19: This is what the 90s were like.
2:45:05
SPEAKER_21: This one was the golden era.
2:45:06
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:45:07
SPEAKER_20: The golden era of America.
2:45:08
SPEAKER_20: That's what it was like.
2:45:09
SPEAKER_21: Uh, you know, I'm gonna go ahead and move 13 and 12 around because I feel like this next one kind of fits into the category of where we were and everybody's already uncomfortable.
2:45:16
SPEAKER_21: We might as well go to goon.
2:45:18
SPEAKER_21: It used to describe something doing something silly.
2:45:21
SPEAKER_21: Now it's used as another another.
2:45:23
SPEAKER_21: I'm not explaining this one.
2:45:24
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:45:24
SPEAKER_23: Uh I actually don't know this one.
2:45:26
SPEAKER_23: I don't know this one.
2:45:28
SPEAKER_21: Oh, you don't know the goon and the gooning and the gooner?
2:45:30
SPEAKER_21: Oh my gosh.
2:45:31
SPEAKER_21: It's almost exclusively male um much of a yeah, so taking care of business.
2:45:37
SPEAKER_19: You should not clip any of this.
2:45:38
SPEAKER_19: This should not be preserved for.
2:45:41
SPEAKER_23: I didn't know that that's what gooning was.
2:45:43
SPEAKER_23: I I thought gooning was doubling down, dude.
2:45:47
SPEAKER_19: I am doubling down.
2:45:49
SPEAKER_23: Make clips of this.
2:45:50
SPEAKER_23: Uh was essentially when someone is like kind of like a mob-ish, like that dude's a goon.
2:45:56
SPEAKER_23: Like that's what it used to be.
2:45:58
SPEAKER_19: Well, there was goofy, a goofy person, I would say.
2:46:00
SPEAKER_19: Or earlier goons as like, yes, like henchmen almost.
2:46:05
SPEAKER_19: And then it was like, oh, you're a goofy person.
2:46:07
SPEAKER_19: Yeah.
2:46:08
SPEAKER_19: Now it's something horrible.
2:46:10
SPEAKER_19: Oh, okay.
2:46:10
SPEAKER_21: I'm a goofy generation.
2:46:12
SPEAKER_21: Well, Sean William Scott had a hockey movie called The Goon.
2:46:15
SPEAKER_21: I think it was the goon.
2:46:16
SPEAKER_21: The goon.
2:46:16
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:46:17
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:46:17
SPEAKER_21: All right.
2:46:18
SPEAKER_21: Um, it used to be bad to get duped, tricked, or deceived.
2:46:22
SPEAKER_21: Now it's a good thing that means copy or duplicate of a pricier product on a at a cheaper price.
2:46:28
SPEAKER_21: I've never heard this one.
2:46:29
SPEAKER_21: Yeah.
2:46:29
SPEAKER_21: I have heard that.
2:46:30
SPEAKER_19: It's kind of it's kind of, well, it's kind of like um like a knockoff used in a positive way.
2:46:34
SPEAKER_19: Like here's this really expensive makeup product, but oh, there's a there's a a dupe of it at Target instead of you know Sakura.
2:46:41
SPEAKER_23: Timot basically made it a thing because you know, Chinese ripping off all of our American intellectual property and they dupe everything.
2:46:47
SPEAKER_23: Okay.
2:46:48
SPEAKER_19: Yeah, it was before then.
2:46:50
SPEAKER_21: Isn't that Dua Lipa's like nickname?
2:46:51
SPEAKER_21: When they combine the two?
2:46:52
SPEAKER_21: No.
2:46:53
SPEAKER_21: No, it's not a thing.
2:46:53
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
2:46:54
SPEAKER_21: That's a good dad joke, though.
2:46:55
SPEAKER_22: Thank you very much.
2:46:56
SPEAKER_22: Appreciate that.
2:46:57
SPEAKER_21: Um, 14 is gaslighting.
2:46:59
SPEAKER_21: It used to only refer to playing tricks on someone to make them think they were losing their mind.
2:47:05
SPEAKER_21: And the article says, now, whenever someone gets lied to by another person, that person says they're being gaslighted.
2:47:12
SPEAKER_21: And they're just using the terminology wrong.
2:47:14
SPEAKER_21: It's the it's the former, it's never the other.
2:47:18
SPEAKER_21: It's never just getting lied to by another person.
2:47:20
SPEAKER_20: It's always no, there's a different difference between lying to somebody and gaslighting.
2:47:26
SPEAKER_20: And gaslighting, 100%.
2:47:27
SPEAKER_20: If somebody is that old definition still works for what you're trying to convey to mind, does not make any that doesn't apply to it.
2:47:34
SPEAKER_23: People just misuse it and gaslighting is a specific um psychological phenomena where you slowly convince someone that they're losing their mind by basically playing tricks on them and deceiving them so you can control them.
2:47:50
SPEAKER_23: That's what gaslighting is.
2:47:52
SPEAKER_23: And it literally comes from like turning the gas on the scope.
2:47:55
SPEAKER_23: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:47:56
SPEAKER_20: It's like it's like when Joe Biden said that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated, right?
2:48:01
SPEAKER_20: Like that's gaslighting because they had the data to say that no, that's not that's not true.
2:48:07
SPEAKER_20: He knew it was not true, but he wanted to impose on the American psyche that they were the weird ones for not getting vaccinated.
2:48:13
SPEAKER_17: Denying someone's reality.
2:48:15
SPEAKER_21: Low-key, it used to mean quiet, subtle, clandestine.
2:48:20
SPEAKER_21: Now it means what exactly?
2:48:22
SPEAKER_21: Sort of like ruined a perfectly good term with a rich history.
2:48:25
SPEAKER_21: Low-key?
2:48:25
SPEAKER_21: Is this being used differently than that?
2:48:28
SPEAKER_21: Don't you think that that definition still applicable?
2:48:31
SPEAKER_17: It's just more widely used, maybe.
2:48:33
SPEAKER_17: But yeah.
2:48:33
SPEAKER_17: Like if I low-key really cool, yeah.
2:48:36
SPEAKER_17: It's it's paired with other terms.
2:48:38
SPEAKER_20: Like I low-key like that girl.
2:48:40
SPEAKER_20: It means you're trying to be subtle about it.
2:48:42
SPEAKER_20: You don't want everyone to know about it.
2:48:45
SPEAKER_23: Put it on blast.
2:48:46
SPEAKER_23: You know, you put on blast.
2:48:47
SPEAKER_23: Low-key.
2:48:48
SPEAKER_23: Put on blast.
2:48:50
SPEAKER_21: We'll just blow past this next one.
2:48:51
SPEAKER_21: They have raw dogging in here, but we'll just leave it and then we'll just go we'll jump in.
2:48:54
SPEAKER_23: Just like Catherine was doing last week with uh her feet on the scouts.
2:48:59
SPEAKER_23: They basically raw dogging over the room.
2:49:01
SPEAKER_17: We were talking about raw dogging yesterday when it's on an airplane.
2:49:04
SPEAKER_17: Yes.
2:49:04
SPEAKER_17: You know about raw dogging.
2:49:06
SPEAKER_20: I do want to speak on this one.
2:49:08
SPEAKER_20: I do want to speak on this one because it used to mean something very vulgar, right?
2:49:12
SPEAKER_20: Like, and it still does.
2:49:14
SPEAKER_20: It still is vulgar.
2:49:16
SPEAKER_20: But like the definition has become lighter, right?
2:49:19
SPEAKER_20: Because when you say you're raw dogging something, that used to be something not great.
2:49:25
SPEAKER_17: And like a couple weeks ago, I took my shoes off.
2:49:27
SPEAKER_17: Okay, just to be clear, that was the that's what he's referencing.
2:49:30
SPEAKER_17: I took my shoes off on this chair.
2:49:31
SPEAKER_21: Everybody's scrambling for the date of that show.
2:49:33
SPEAKER_17: What show was that one?
2:49:35
SPEAKER_17: I took my shoes off.
2:49:36
SPEAKER_17: I don't think they were in the shot even.
2:49:38
SPEAKER_20: But like there was a trend that people were like raw dogging flights, right?
2:49:42
SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
2:49:42
SPEAKER_20: And what that meant was you're gonna go through an entire flight, you're not gonna look at your phone, you're not gonna watch the screen in front of you, you are going to sit and just stare ahead of you for the entire three-hour flight that you have.
2:49:52
SPEAKER_20: Basically, what it means now is you're just doing the thing.
2:49:56
SPEAKER_20: You're just doing it the old, old, the old way.
2:49:58
SPEAKER_21: The article says, I can't, the person said I can't stand the use of raw dogging for anything other than its original meaning.
2:50:06
SPEAKER_21: Because it's so crude, yeah, they don't like other people applying it to something else because they immediately think of the original terminology that's crude.
2:50:14
SPEAKER_21: They can't get their mind.
2:50:15
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, I did ask a coworker if you raw dogged that flight, and then I was like, Am I kahole her?
2:50:21
SPEAKER_17: Like, am I like so maybe inappropriate that I said.
2:50:26
SPEAKER_21: And if he did, how did he do that?
2:50:28
SPEAKER_30: Uh go ahead.
2:50:30
SPEAKER_23: So the the other raw dog aspect, because when I when I hear it, it's almost like a marrying of the two, where it's like when you like when people are like, Are you raw dogging this flight?
2:50:41
SPEAKER_23: It's like, oh, you weren't wearing a mask?
2:50:42
SPEAKER_23: Oh, you were raw dogging the flight.
2:50:44
SPEAKER_23: You put your nasty, nasty feet on the seat in front of you.
2:50:49
SPEAKER_23: That also is raw dogging.
2:50:50
SPEAKER_23: So I think that there's a lot of context here with raw dogging.
2:50:54
SPEAKER_23: And it could be like, oh, you raw dog that pickle when you reached into that jar, uh, not at your house, and you just put your finger in there and you pulled it out with your nasty fingers without a glove instead of grabbing like a fork.
2:51:07
SPEAKER_23: That's also raw dogging.
2:51:08
SPEAKER_23: Okay.
2:51:09
SPEAKER_23: Wow.
2:51:09
SPEAKER_20: I can see that.
2:51:10
SPEAKER_20: I'm glad we had this conversation.
2:51:11
SPEAKER_21: We're not done yet.
2:51:12
SPEAKER_21: Let's go here to the blaster line on the John Justice show.
2:51:14
SPEAKER_21: We'll hear from a friend of the show.
2:51:16
SPEAKER_09: If John former neighbor might here, I'll stole my 70s uh formative year.
2:51:21
SPEAKER_09: Did anybody go parking anymore?
2:51:24
SPEAKER_09: You couldn't go net if you didn't go parking.
2:51:27
SPEAKER_09: I know.
2:51:27
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
2:51:28
SPEAKER_21: So that's definitely a more of a 70s term.
2:51:29
SPEAKER_21: I don't remember that.
2:51:30
SPEAKER_21: Like in my terminology growing up, we didn't do parking.
2:51:33
SPEAKER_21: I think I can figure it out.
2:51:34
SPEAKER_20: Parking's just making out in your car?
2:51:36
SPEAKER_20: In your parked car, right?
2:51:37
SPEAKER_23: I mean, I did that in the late 90s with my girlfriend.
2:51:41
SPEAKER_21: The last one on the list.
2:51:42
SPEAKER_21: You're fast.
2:51:43
SPEAKER_21: Yeah, you know what?
2:51:46
SPEAKER_23: One time cops came up on there, they're like, you gotta get out of this park.
2:51:49
SPEAKER_23: And I'm like, oh uh lastly, they say cringe.
2:51:53
SPEAKER_21: Used to refer to a facial expression that one makes when experiencing any kind of discomfort.
2:51:57
SPEAKER_21: Uh now it's an adjective used to describe something uncool or embarrassing.
2:52:01
SPEAKER_19: It's the same thing.
2:52:02
SPEAKER_19: It's always just again, it's just used more widely.
2:52:04
SPEAKER_19: It's always been both.
2:52:05
SPEAKER_20: I've always been cringe, it's always been yeah, but but it it's become a descriptor now.
2:52:10
SPEAKER_20: So like John is cringe, which means that John is John is cringe worthy.
2:52:15
SPEAKER_17: Yes.
2:52:15
SPEAKER_17: Which is like adjective versus verb, right?
2:52:17
SPEAKER_17: I mean it just kind of shifted.
2:52:18
SPEAKER_21: Which is different than sponge worthy, just so we're clear.
2:52:22
SPEAKER_21: I'm not familiar with that one.
2:52:23
SPEAKER_21: For your Seinfeld, that's a side that there are at least five people laughing at that joke right now.
2:52:27
SPEAKER_21: I can I'm gonna be laughing at that.
2:52:30
SPEAKER_21: I know that for I know that for certain.
2:52:32
SPEAKER_21: So um that ends that list.
2:52:34
SPEAKER_21: I'm going through the uh talkbacks here if I wanted to.
2:52:37
SPEAKER_21: Let's go.
2:52:37
SPEAKER_21: Hey, let's let's burn that, okay?
2:52:39
SPEAKER_21: Let's burn that piece of it.
2:52:43
SPEAKER_02: POV and personal vehicle, and maybe how to claim our personal vehicle.
2:52:49
SPEAKER_02: So I don't know where P-O-V.
2:52:52
SPEAKER_21: A personal vehicle in the military was POV.
2:52:55
SPEAKER_21: I'm not familiar with uh with that.
2:52:56
SPEAKER_21: What does the O stand for in that?
2:52:58
SPEAKER_21: I have no idea.
2:52:59
SPEAKER_21: I have no idea.
2:53:00
SPEAKER_21: Let's wrap on this story.
2:53:01
SPEAKER_21: Speaking of well, not really terminology.
2:53:03
SPEAKER_21: I don't really have a good segue into it.
2:53:04
SPEAKER_21: I just want to talk about it.
2:53:05
SPEAKER_21: Let's just talk about it.
2:53:06
SPEAKER_21: So um has every first off, has everybody seen the controversial Target costume for the child that was that was removed?
2:53:14
SPEAKER_21: Okay.
2:53:16
SPEAKER_21: Where do we first off, do we believe that it was intentionally made that way, or is it just supposed to be a Halloween clown suit?
2:53:24
SPEAKER_19: It's not intentional.
2:53:25
SPEAKER_19: Do some people say it is?
2:53:26
SPEAKER_19: Oh, yeah, yeah.
2:53:27
SPEAKER_19: People are saying it is, yeah.
2:53:28
SPEAKER_19: No, let me rephrase.
2:53:29
SPEAKER_19: Do any normal people think that it was intentional?
2:53:32
SPEAKER_21: No, okay.
2:53:32
SPEAKER_21: It's a scary clown.
2:53:33
SPEAKER_21: And the only reason why it was, in my view, the only reason why it was controversial was because there was a black child in that particular costume.
2:53:40
SPEAKER_21: That was a white child.
2:53:42
SPEAKER_17: It's weird AF.
2:53:43
SPEAKER_17: Like, let's just like also acknowledge it's a weird costume.
2:53:46
SPEAKER_17: Who's putting their kid in that?
2:53:47
SPEAKER_17: If I went to the store and was like, Mom, I want to be that, she'd be like, Yeah, it's a dumb costume.
2:53:51
SPEAKER_17: It's so weird.
2:53:52
SPEAKER_23: Well, here's what I will say: because of YouTube being a thing, there's like this weird, spooky, like, and and it's been around for like five plus years of like the the scary grandma, right?
2:54:04
SPEAKER_23: The granny game that they're all these kids are playing, and then they're watching people play it on YouTube.
2:54:08
SPEAKER_23: Oh, I'm completely unfamiliar with this.
2:54:09
SPEAKER_23: And like Slender Man, like all of these different hyper, like I would say on a scale of scariness, we're talking about Secret of Nim, it's like out of 10 for what you can show that is just demonically scary, but then they show it to kids and they don't show any blood or gore.
2:54:27
SPEAKER_23: So that's kind of a thing now with that that age group where instead of just like a scary clown that kind of maybe looks like it in a normal, like without it putting out its fangs, that's kind of what it is.
2:54:40
SPEAKER_23: But I think 100% the only reason why this is a thing is because we are 70-ish days away from the general election and they are grabbing at every possible straw to make black people feel like Republicans are racist, and then when they go on this rant, anyone that says like this is not racist, you're like, aha! And and Republicans are gonna be like this isn't racist, and I say, see, even Republicans, you know, they want to put you all back in chain.
2:55:06
SPEAKER_23: That's what I think.
2:55:07
SPEAKER_19: So this was Target, though, right?
2:55:08
SPEAKER_19: Of all the companies to go after and say they're making a racist costume.
2:55:11
SPEAKER_20: Without the costume in front of me, didn't it feel like it's part of this popular toy trend, laboo boo?
2:55:17
SPEAKER_20: Like there was this big teeth smile.
2:55:19
SPEAKER_19: That is interesting, which does kind of be like.
2:55:22
SPEAKER_21: I thought it was just a I thought it was just a big laboo boo where like the costume I don't think it was meant to be that, but you're right, it is very evocative of a laboo-boo.
2:55:30
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, where like the you I just like saying laboo boo.
2:55:32
SPEAKER_20: You got these big like sharp teeth, and yeah, yeah, you got these big sharp teeth, and the costume, at least from my view of it, was like you had kind of this monster costume and then this big smile with like sharp teeth, and that's what I thought it was invoking.
2:55:46
SPEAKER_20: But then yeah, like the woke crowd was kind of like, Well, that's that's racist because uh it's a black kid.
2:55:53
SPEAKER_20: Well, yeah.
2:55:54
SPEAKER_17: I had the same reaction to this as I did to the good, good ad.
2:55:56
SPEAKER_17: Did you guys watch that one?
2:55:57
SPEAKER_21: No, I didn't know that was the good ad yeah, the the golf ad.
2:56:00
SPEAKER_17: Yeah, the golf ad, there's like a golf ad that's going around that they got canceled for where it's like a parody of yeah, for Callaway.
2:56:06
SPEAKER_17: It's like a parody of obsession.
2:56:08
SPEAKER_17: I don't know.
2:56:08
SPEAKER_17: Basically, a man pushes a woman to the ground.
2:56:11
SPEAKER_17: That's the bad part.
2:56:12
SPEAKER_17: And it is a little weird if you watch it, like you're like, why is this man shoving this girl to the ground?
2:56:16
SPEAKER_17: Like, kind of strange.
2:56:17
SPEAKER_20: It's a bad ad.
2:56:18
SPEAKER_20: It's a bad ad.
2:56:19
SPEAKER_17: And I think it's a bad costume.
2:56:21
SPEAKER_17: And like, how did it get through all these departments where someone wasn't like, let's just like scrap that one because it's weird or bad or gives me an ick?
2:56:27
SPEAKER_17: Like, I don't know.
2:56:28
SPEAKER_17: Not to use another weird term from Gen Z, but they both to me felt eh, but they shouldn't all be canceled for it and everyone's, you know, never go to Target again, never buy whatever this good good thing is.
2:56:39
SPEAKER_17: That's too far.
2:56:40
SPEAKER_20: Yeah, where did where did all the DEI departments go that you didn't catch, that you didn't catch the supposedly racist costume?
2:56:46
SPEAKER_21: You know who was a big fan of the good good ad was uh Fang Fang.
2:56:49
SPEAKER_21: Wanted to throw that out there.
2:56:51
SPEAKER_17: Fang Good Fang.
2:56:52
SPEAKER_21: The reason I brought this up, the reason I brought I brought this up as we get ready to wrap the show up.
2:56:56
SPEAKER_21: There's an editorial in the Star Tribune today.
2:56:58
SPEAKER_21: Taylor uh Schlitz says Target's offensive Halloween costume is exactly what DEI was supposed to prevent.
2:57:05
SPEAKER_21: Target wants to know how something like this got through, but it's not a mystery when the company has retreated from corporate diversity initiatives.
2:57:14
SPEAKER_17: Oh, not enough DEI?
2:57:16
SPEAKER_17: That's her argument.
2:57:18
SPEAKER_21: First off, it's not like the DEI officers getting paid exorbitant amounts of money if the company wants to go and hire them.
2:57:24
SPEAKER_21: That's on them.
2:57:25
SPEAKER_21: But it was costing these corporations a ton.
2:57:27
SPEAKER_21: It's not like that DEI employee would have caught this costume moving through.
2:57:33
SPEAKER_21: They're not, they're not doing quality inspections on the on these items.
2:57:37
SPEAKER_21: The now pulled Halloween costume, for those that aren't familiar, um, featured an orange and black uh outfit, black gloves, and a top hat, and a grinning mask with exaggerated teeth.
2:57:47
SPEAKER_21: Critics immediately saw echoes of blackface and the Jim Crow era minstrel caricatures.
2:57:52
SPEAKER_21: I can tell you firsthand, being 54 years old, I could not conjure up in my mind what that was supposed to look like.
2:57:58
SPEAKER_21: Like I had to go look at the Jim Crow era minstrel to see your brain is working correlation.
2:58:05
SPEAKER_21: If I didn't see that initially, there's no way that anybody younger than me was ever gonna make that correlation.
2:58:11
SPEAKER_21: There was somebody already familiar, already agenda-driven that did this.
2:58:15
SPEAKER_21: And as a matter of fact, this to me is an example of why you don't need DEI because guess what?
2:58:20
SPEAKER_21: The court of public opinion had its say.
2:58:22
SPEAKER_21: It popped up, somebody complained about it, Target went, we really don't want the controversy.
2:58:27
SPEAKER_21: It's not gonna cost us a dime if we don't sell this costume because it probably wasn't gonna sell anyways, because it's a dumb costume for a kid.
2:58:34
SPEAKER_21: This actually shows that DEI is completely unnecessary.
2:58:36
SPEAKER_17: Well, yeah, because no one knew what it was because we're not watching minstrel shows in our free time.
2:58:41
SPEAKER_17: That seems like a win.
2:58:42
SPEAKER_20: You're racist for noticing that.
2:58:43
SPEAKER_20: Right.
2:58:44
SPEAKER_20: What are you thinking about?
2:58:46
SPEAKER_23: Well, so here's what's so dumb about it, right?
2:58:48
SPEAKER_23: And and like you said earlier, do average people look at this and think anything like, is this racist?
2:58:55
SPEAKER_23: Of course they don't.
2:58:56
SPEAKER_23: The fact that you have a black face, like painting black on a face, doesn't automatically make it a minstrel show.
2:59:05
SPEAKER_23: Venom, a very popular kind of like villain anti-hero, technically, I guess has black face because Peter Parker or Brock or whoever is currently being infected by the symbiote known as Venom is white, and then they suddenly become black.
2:59:23
SPEAKER_23: I'm actually really surprised that that hasn't become a thing for the whole thing.
2:59:27
SPEAKER_23: But it's the same thing.
2:59:29
SPEAKER_23: So just by the simple fact that a clown mask is black makes it blackface, is insane.
2:59:37
SPEAKER_23: The fact that they used a black kid, like you were saying, if that if that would have been a white kid, some people might have had a problem with it, but no one would have cared.
2:59:44
SPEAKER_23: It's the simple fact that it's a black kid, that's the only reason they care.
2:59:49
SPEAKER_23: Which to me, isn't that kind of like supposed to be representation?
2:59:53
SPEAKER_23: So when they say that it wouldn't have gotten through, you can't have black kids play like scary clowns.
3:00:00
SPEAKER_23: Like I don't even know what's that's a great point.
3:00:03
SPEAKER_21: That's a that's a that is a uh that is a great point.
3:00:05
SPEAKER_21: And you know what?
3:00:06
SPEAKER_21: We'll go out with that one looking at the clock.
3:00:08
SPEAKER_21: Holy cow.
3:00:10
SPEAKER_21: We've we've we've we've blown past the third hour here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
3:00:15
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3:00:19
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3:01:04
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3:01:39
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3:01:41
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3:01:46
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SPEAKER_29: Uh, nothing to announce, but a quick shout-out to my brother and sister-in-law.
3:01:58
SPEAKER_29: Found out that I'm gonna be an uncle yesterday.
3:02:00
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3:02:03
SPEAKER_21: Can we get no?
3:02:04
SPEAKER_21: We can actually, I'm slow on here, but we can uh we can do that.
3:02:08
SPEAKER_21: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_21: Thank you.
3:02:09
SPEAKER_21: I'll do a little look at that.
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SPEAKER_21: I'm very excited.
3:02:47
SPEAKER_21: So I look forward to talking to you guys on uh Monday uh morning at 6 a.m.
3:02:51
SPEAKER_21: God bless.
3:02:51
SPEAKER_21: And I hope that you all have an absolutely fantastic uh weekend.
3:02:55
SPEAKER_21: We'll talk to you Monday.
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SPEAKER_21: Bye.
3:03:19
SPEAKER_31: A voice that lingers when night is gone.
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SPEAKER_31: When stay home, the story is fun.
3:03:27
SPEAKER_31: John just rides the right thing.