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The Hidden Cost of Dimming Your Light | Wykeria Clark | EP165 · Jess Ask

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Speaker 1: Do nothing without my girl desert right Hey all right, heyes.
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Speaker 2: A ray? Are you doing that for our guest today
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Speaker 2: or what holiday above?
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Speaker 1: I'm just excited. I'm excited about her guests. I'm excited
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Speaker 1: about life. I'm excited about Jesus, I'm excited about breath.
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Speaker 2: I'm just excited.
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Speaker 1: Okay, can y'all give her hand clap of praise for
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Speaker 1: the excitement. Hello, I'm also excited. I'm excited.
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Speaker 2: I'm grateful. I'm grateful. I feel like I should have
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Speaker 2: woren Leo Tard today.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know that would been more appropriate, you know,
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Speaker 1: instead of this podcast. I mean, you know, joggers are okay,
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Speaker 1: Jos Jogga's okay. You know, joggers are okay, necessarily tar
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Speaker 1: you know. But that's when I so back in the day,
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Speaker 1: I used to ballet a set up. Now, I never
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Speaker 1: I wasn't on my toes. You know I was, and
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Speaker 1: I wasn't. I'm saying I wasn't that blessed. But I
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Speaker 1: did a little ballerina, a little ballerina. I know you
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Speaker 1: did a little you know, you was the flag girling,
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Speaker 1: but you flat girling Church. You don't flag flag for Jesus.
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Speaker 1: I didn't last for the football team.
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Speaker 2: So you never had professional, professional help with dance.
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Speaker 1: See, this is why you can't dance now, this is
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Speaker 1: why you need help now with with you can you
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Speaker 1: dance for Jesus really well?
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Speaker 2: But you flagged. One thing you gonna do is you're
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Speaker 2: gonna fa Okay, if you ever want to catch up
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Speaker 2: at TPC, she's gonna move from the camera and start.
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Speaker 1: If she starts waving and she goes, oh, that's in
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Speaker 1: my line.
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Speaker 2: Today's guest is in today's guests go of.
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited because I'm very We was having off
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Speaker 1: camera conversations and things like this, and so one of
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Speaker 1: the things that was said was.
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Speaker 2: That this is a business.
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Speaker 1: She's a business woman, and I think sometimes we don't
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Speaker 1: see ourselves in the spaces that we're in.
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Speaker 2: But she's an amazing business woman.
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Speaker 1: She's a mother, she's a sangle, she's on our worship
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Speaker 1: team and our church. She has a dance studio. She's
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Speaker 1: a teacher, so she'd be teaching the children's and all
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Speaker 1: the things. And also she's a mouthpiece for the Lord. Yes, Lord,
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Speaker 1: and so we're about to get into this conversation today.
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Speaker 2: Welcome. I don't know how. Let me say how. I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna do this. I got most I got so why
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Speaker 2: kirie a clause?
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Speaker 4: That was fun?
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Speaker 2: I could get my buttons together. I wouldn't prepare, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's all the things you always prepared.
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Speaker 1: You're always prepared. Let I let it introduce you. Because
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Speaker 1: she's overly excited for y'all. Y'all TPC folks love each other.
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Speaker 2: And family and destiny. You know, because I'm not a member.
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Speaker 2: Why do I know that? Because it's supposed to be
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Speaker 2: you don't remember.
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Speaker 5: That's good, Jo, listen, I love it. I'm so happy
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Speaker 5: to have you here. I'm happy to be here.
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Speaker 1: Listen, my shadow shud when I seen you on that stage,
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Speaker 1: So shout out to Wakiria Dance and Performance. Okay, studio,
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Speaker 1: what what what network? Whatever you want to call it,
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Speaker 1: because it's growing. Okay, we done growed it. We done
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Speaker 1: growed it.
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Speaker 2: I saw you.
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Speaker 1: I saw you on that stage. I saw you on
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Speaker 1: the stage. You know my nieces dance with you.
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Speaker 2: They love it. By the way, be mad when they came.
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Speaker 2: You know, Katie was mad. Katie was upset. Yeah, but
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Speaker 2: she couldn't. She couldn't do it. She couldn't do it.
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Speaker 2: But that that I think that safe space that.
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Speaker 1: You're creating for young young women, young ladies, it's so powerful.
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Speaker 1: But you said something on this stage in my shundle shondle,
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Speaker 1: So I think it's time, and I think you know
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Speaker 1: where I'm gonna go. I'm just gonna want to show
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Speaker 1: straight there. You said that you would think about stopping. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: you said you were gonna quit, and they had got frustrated.
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Speaker 2: I need you to take me there of why like
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Speaker 2: you've been growing this this, this this brand, this safe space.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep calling the safe space because I need
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Speaker 1: you to understand that's what it is.
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Speaker 2: You've been growing this safe space for about.
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Speaker 1: Four or five years now, four years, okay, so what
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Speaker 1: made you come up with the idea that you thought
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Speaker 1: you was gonna quit?
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Speaker 5: Like I mentioned, it was just hard. It was really
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Speaker 5: really hard. What started out to be fun and easy
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Speaker 5: to do. I think it outgrew me. And when that
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Speaker 5: became that I was losing. I didn't have enough help
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Speaker 5: to keep it going. So I felt like I was
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Speaker 5: being pulled from so many different ways, because, like y'all mentioned,
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Speaker 5: I'm a mom of two very active kids, and so
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Speaker 5: trying to be present for my kids, trying to be
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Speaker 5: present for my current job as an educator for those kids,
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Speaker 5: and then trying to still run that business. It just
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Speaker 5: became really hard. And then I know a lot of
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Speaker 5: people were falling out when the government shut down. I
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Speaker 5: had a lot of parents that were working for the government,
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Speaker 5: so they're like, hey, I got to pull them out.
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Speaker 5: So those funds and that income that was a part
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Speaker 5: of that revenue was I was losing that and it
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Speaker 5: was just like I couldn't keep putting my personal finances
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Speaker 5: into the business, and so I was just like, okay, God,
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Speaker 5: this was like right around Christmas, I said I that's
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Speaker 5: not it. And I remember reaching out to my mentor,
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Speaker 5: doctor Paulllli y'all know doctor PAULI was, and I was
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Speaker 5: just like, hey, I think after this year, I'm gonna
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Speaker 5: go ahead and close, you know. And she gave me,
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Speaker 5: you know, things to read on. She told me like, hey,
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Speaker 5: really make sure sure that you hear from God. And
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Speaker 5: it's not a flesh decision, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 5: only because of your now.
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Speaker 4: And so I took that and I remember saying, like, God.
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Speaker 5: If this is not I noticed what you wanted me
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Speaker 5: to do, because this is not what I was planning
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Speaker 5: to do.
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Speaker 4: Like owning a dance studio was not my plan.
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Speaker 5: I just wanted to teach, like train go to somebody
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Speaker 5: house and they then you know, I ain't worgular one too.
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Speaker 5: I didn't know that it would go to this. I
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Speaker 5: was actually renting in a space like I wouldn't even rent.
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Speaker 5: I was just going to the Salvation Army teaching dance.
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Speaker 1: What. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I was just going up there and then some kids
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Speaker 5: would come and next thing I knew, everything was just
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Speaker 5: falling into place. So I knew it was God. So
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Speaker 5: I'm just like, Okay, God, I know this is a
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Speaker 5: you thing. I know, this is you you, this is
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Speaker 5: your this was your thing. So if this is what
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Speaker 5: you want me to do, I need you to show
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Speaker 5: me because I'm like losing everything, like confidence, hope, like
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Speaker 5: faith out the window.
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Speaker 4: What am I? What am I supposed to do?
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Speaker 5: And I remember, not even two weeks later, somebody reached
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Speaker 5: out our old business coach and asks me to apply
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Speaker 5: for something. I applied for and got the resources I
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Speaker 5: need to continue oh throughout the year. And so I
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Speaker 5: reached out to the landlord and he was working things
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Speaker 5: out and just everything was just working out, and I said, Okay,
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Speaker 5: we're gonna go them through. We're gonna finish out the
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Speaker 5: year because I was gonna be done at decent. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: it was just really really hard. But even when I
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Speaker 5: reached out to my team, My coaches are amazing. I
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Speaker 5: reached out to them and I told them and they
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Speaker 5: immediately went into like, Okay, we can do this, and
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Speaker 5: then we can start doing this, and we're gonna do this,
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Speaker 5: and we need you out the floor.
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Speaker 4: You don't need to teach, We're gonna teach.
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Speaker 5: They began to take over and start playing and like
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Speaker 5: managing the studio.
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Speaker 4: Will I had to do was handle the brand.
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Speaker 2: So that part.
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Speaker 1: What did you learn in that moment when you released
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Speaker 1: your concern to your team?
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Speaker 4: One, I realized that they were for me. I realized
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Speaker 4: that they.
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Speaker 5: Saw the vision, they believed in the vision, and they
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Speaker 5: were willing to push it. Because I've shared a lot
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Speaker 5: of times sometimes my heart is so big in it
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Speaker 5: that I don't think about the business side. And sometimes
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Speaker 5: I say just bring them on, let them dance, and
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Speaker 5: they looking at me like no, no, no, no, this
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Speaker 5: is not gonna work. But I learned that they're with
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Speaker 5: me regardless, Like they're really all in for WDP. They
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Speaker 5: trust me, And sometimes it's hard for me to see, like, hey,
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Speaker 5: they really with you, they're riding with you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you not believe Like I won't say you
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Speaker 1: didn't believe that before, but like was there did you
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Speaker 1: know as much when that happened?
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Speaker 2: Did you know that they were rocking you with you?
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Speaker 1: What? Like? Did you have not necessarily a doubt about them?
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Speaker 1: But sometimes this is what come in to mind sometimes
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Speaker 1: as leaders. And it was just when we were just talking,
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Speaker 1: we were talking about my relationship with Desirae.
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Speaker 2: It was hard for me to.
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Speaker 1: Relinquish the weight of a responsibility, even though she was
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Speaker 1: she was designed for the responsibility. I felt like, the
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Speaker 1: Lord says, the Lord gave me this, I'm response before.
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Speaker 2: I gotta keep all the details.
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Speaker 1: I gotta keep everything in line, just everything in line,
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Speaker 1: and if I don't keep it together, it's gonna fail.
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Speaker 2: Am I.
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Speaker 4: No, that's definitely it. That's definitely it. And it's still hard.
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Speaker 4: But I've done.
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Speaker 5: I'm doing a whole lot better with relinquishing. I'm doing
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Speaker 5: a whole lot better. I'm still struggling, But I think
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Speaker 5: it wasn't that I did not trust them. It was
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Speaker 5: more so what you said, Like it's mine, it's my baby.
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Speaker 5: I'm supposed to take care of it. I can't just
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Speaker 5: put it in the hands and expect y'all to do
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Speaker 5: what I'm called to do. Yeah, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 5: Like this is what this is what he gave me.
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Speaker 5: So I'm supposed to take care of it. So I
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Speaker 5: shouldn't put this off if he gave it to me.
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Speaker 5: I shouldn't be like, Okay, thank you God, here I go. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: it's not how I would look at it. And so
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Speaker 5: they like, no, like what we need to do. And
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Speaker 5: I realized that they're more than just dance coaches. They're
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Speaker 5: business women. So they're handling things on the media side.
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Speaker 5: They're handling things on like just on the business side.
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Speaker 5: Like they're really helpful. To the point now I'm able
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Speaker 5: to breathe a little bit more and I can see
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Speaker 5: like we've opened up registrations, so we're not closing.
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Speaker 1: Come on period in the description, Yes.
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Speaker 4: We have opened up registration for the fall.
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Speaker 5: They came up with a plan, they came up with
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Speaker 5: the schedule, and they presented it to me, like, what
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Speaker 5: do you think about this?
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Speaker 4: And that's what I've been praying for.
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Speaker 5: It's just now my prayer has shifted from God, send
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Speaker 5: me who you have for me to now help me
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Speaker 5: to receive that.
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Speaker 4: That's good, Help me receive because I asked you for it.
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Speaker 5: Come on, and now that I'm asking you for it,
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Speaker 5: you're giving it to me and I'm pushing it off, like,
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Speaker 5: but help me to receive that.
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Speaker 2: We were literally just talking about this.
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Speaker 4: I know that's why.
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Speaker 2: We were literally talking about Right before you walked through
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Speaker 2: the door.
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Speaker 1: I was telling them, Uh, by the time they see this,
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Speaker 1: I've been already said to the safe space. But I
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Speaker 1: heard the Lord tell me about the retreat that we're
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Speaker 1: getting ready to go to. And we have two press sessions,
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Speaker 1: one thank You Spirit, one prayer session is going to
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Speaker 1: be focused on releasing. I think we're used to God.
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Speaker 1: What do I need to release? What I need to remove?
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Speaker 1: What am I holding known to X, Y and Z?
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Speaker 1: But then there's a and to that. Right, the Lord
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Speaker 1: is not just a We talked talk about the double
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Speaker 1: as sword and how the Lord believes in bringing things
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Speaker 1: in twos. Right, there's a release and a point of receiving. Right,
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Speaker 1: And so I think that we know how we've gotten
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Speaker 1: in a good habit because we we love a good deliverance,
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Speaker 1: you know, you know.
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Speaker 2: We were phoning at the mountain.
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Speaker 1: We love a good phone at the mount We love
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Speaker 1: a good altar call.
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Speaker 2: But we don't know how to properly receive.
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Speaker 1: And so I'm glad that you're in this space to
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Speaker 1: learn how to receive so that you can be Because
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Speaker 1: I heard that you're trying to be doctor Clark. You
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Speaker 1: did you you you're trying to be doctor Clark? Who?
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Speaker 2: I just heard it, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, okay, I heard it. I heard It's the way
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Speaker 1: we live podcasts. That's the one I took that and
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Speaker 1: I said, oh, so trying to be doctor Claukee is that?
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Speaker 2: Is that a goal?
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Speaker 5: He definitely said that, Oh okay, I don't know. You know,
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Speaker 5: I don't know. I really don't know. I'm not against it, okay,
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Speaker 5: but I really don't know.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we're gonna y'all pray for the woman I got.
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Speaker 2: But I'm curious. Let's get let's get to know. Why curious?
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Speaker 1: So I know that you've been you've been in dance
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Speaker 1: for a long time. Yes, you've been in dance for
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Speaker 1: a long How old were you when you start dancing?
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Speaker 5: So here's the here's the trick, or not the trick.
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Speaker 5: But here's the thing about this. I've never taken dance classes.
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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Speaker 5: I just always love to dance, and I will watch
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Speaker 5: anything and pick it up. And so I'm not gonna
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Speaker 5: say I hate. At first, I used to say I
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Speaker 5: was never afforded the opportunity to take dance classes.
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Speaker 4: And one time I see that, my mom.
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Speaker 5: Say, yes, you were, you just didn't act, and I
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Speaker 5: was just like, okay, I don't okay, I just never again.
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Speaker 5: And I'm very cognizant, sometimes too cognizant of things. Around me,
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Speaker 5: and I try to make the assumptions that I can't
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Speaker 5: do it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: So if I see that my mom and my dad
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Speaker 5: are doing what they can for this, then I'm not
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Speaker 5: gonna ask you for something that I don't necessarily need.
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Speaker 5: So even though I've always wanted to dance, I just
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Speaker 5: will watching Living Color or some on TV and I
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Speaker 5: just eight min it. And so when I got to
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Speaker 5: middle school, I remember being in the fifth grade and
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Speaker 5: I was like, I'm a dancing middle school because that's
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Speaker 5: when they have the dance girls, you know, And.
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Speaker 4: I was telling them I made the dance team and
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Speaker 4: I ain't try out for no about to dance team. Baby,
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Speaker 4: I didn't try to. I was just lying.
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Speaker 2: But now what I know Now I was speaking.
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Speaker 4: Because I you know.
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Speaker 5: But I ended up being on a dance team at
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Speaker 5: the middle school. And then it was crazy because I
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Speaker 5: got on there. I didn't dance in sixth grade, and
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Speaker 5: when I got on the dance team in the seventh grade,
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Speaker 5: I end up making captain.
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Speaker 4: And I remember so many.
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Speaker 5: People were like, dance before, how she come in there?
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Speaker 5: D And from there, like every time I was on
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Speaker 5: anybody's dance team. I had a leadership position, and I
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Speaker 5: only danced in school with the bands. I danced in
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Speaker 5: middle school, I danced in high school, and then I
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Speaker 5: got a scholarship and I danced at Miles. And so
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Speaker 5: while I was at Miles, I started giving back into
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Speaker 5: middle and high schools. So I started teaching there, like
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Speaker 5: just teaching dance randomly, and that's really how they started.
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Speaker 5: And so I stopped after I had my son, when
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Speaker 5: I got married. But then I don't know it just
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Speaker 5: I picked it back up.
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Speaker 4: I missed it.
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Speaker 5: I wanted to do it again, and I started teaching it.
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Speaker 5: I started being over high school dance teams, like local
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Speaker 5: high school dance teas, And that day I put out
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Speaker 5: a canval flyer that just said I would train and
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Speaker 5: I put I remember naming it why Curious Dance and
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Speaker 5: Performing Arts.
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Speaker 2: Studio, So you had already had the name my gun, and.
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Speaker 4: I remember somebody missing it was like, hey, where are
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Speaker 4: you located?
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Speaker 5: And I was like, maybe I shouldn't have said it studio
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Speaker 5: because I don't have a studio. I'm just I just
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Speaker 5: like that name, you know, I'm just I'm gonna come
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Speaker 5: to you. I'm the studio and from there that there's history.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So so at what point, because you said a few things,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna touch back on it, at what point
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Speaker 1: did you realize that dance went from a hobby to
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Speaker 1: what you were called to do?
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Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm still sending it, to be honest with you. Okay,
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Speaker 4: let's talk about it. I'm still sending in it.
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Speaker 5: I'm still I'm just now all of these years have
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Speaker 5: passed and just seeing the hand that God has had
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Speaker 5: on this whole thing, I'm learning like every time he
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Speaker 5: reminds me.
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Speaker 4: Like this, this is what I want you to do.
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Speaker 5: This is a God thing because a lot of times,
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Speaker 5: you know, we do things just out of movement, just
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Speaker 5: because we used to doing it. But I think what
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Speaker 5: the revelation for me was the fire the studio that
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Speaker 5: caught fire downtown, Okay, And I was like, well, I
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Speaker 5: wasn't supposed to be doing all this anyway. You know,
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Speaker 5: maybe I'm just gonna go back to what I was doing.
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Speaker 5: And I remember my pastor saying, hey, bigger and belder,
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Speaker 5: you was too content where you are. She just kept
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Speaker 5: saying bigger and better. But I'm not seeing bigger and
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Speaker 5: belder you know what I mean. And months later I
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Speaker 5: go into this bigger space, better space, more convenient, and
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Speaker 5: it's just every time I have my one on one
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Speaker 5: conversations with God and I'm asking for a reminder, he
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Speaker 5: gives it to me.
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Speaker 4: He gives it to me every single time.
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Speaker 5: And it's crazy that you ask me there because I'm not,
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Speaker 5: like I said, I'm sending it now, but I'm not
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Speaker 5: realizing that this is my calling. Yeah, And I have
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Speaker 5: people that will tell me, like, you know this you're calling.
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Speaker 5: You know, people can tell you and you know and
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Speaker 5: tell you the things that you're doing and express their gratitude.
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Speaker 5: But sometimes these moments like this to make me sit
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Speaker 5: in and really realize, like, God, this is really what
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Speaker 5: you called me to do.
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Speaker 2: What do you think think that's keeping you disconnected from that?
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Who did somebody tell you? Is it self rejection? Is
18:11
Speaker 1: it what? This is too big for me?
18:14
Speaker 5: Like?
18:15
Speaker 1: What mindset are you in when you think about what
18:17
Speaker 1: do you think.
18:18
Speaker 2: If this is not your collin? Let's just that's right.
18:19
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you a question, because I
18:22
Speaker 1: want to see see what we on the same.
18:25
Speaker 2: If this not her calling, what is her calling?
18:32
Speaker 4: You know?
18:33
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I think sometimes oh sorry, yeah,
18:35
Speaker 1: say because you about to get for scared.
18:36
Speaker 2: I know my bad. Here, I am here, I am okay.
18:38
Speaker 2: I think sometimes when you are.
18:42
Speaker 1: Multifaceted, m that's good, right, when when you when you're
18:46
Speaker 1: great at doing multiple things, and I gonna speak for
18:48
Speaker 1: my for myself, right because sometimes I also ponder that question,
18:53
Speaker 1: like what is actually my purpose my calling? Like what
18:55
Speaker 1: did he actually call me to do? Because I could
18:58
Speaker 1: do a lot of things, like I could I watch.
19:00
Speaker 1: The only thing that I've tried that frustrated dickens out
19:03
Speaker 1: of me because I couldn't get it was crocheting, like
19:05
Speaker 1: like you know, like with yarn, like when I tried,
19:07
Speaker 1: I couldn't get it. But everything else like I've tried
19:09
Speaker 1: it and I can get it right. So I think
19:13
Speaker 1: as multifaceted people sometimes we struggle with that because we
19:16
Speaker 1: can do multiple things and we can do them well
19:19
Speaker 1: right and so but the truth of the matter is
19:21
Speaker 1: all of those things are literally tools for the thing.
19:26
Speaker 1: It's just understanding and what that thing is, you know
19:28
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And so I think that could be
19:31
Speaker 1: some of the battle is sometimes we expect the call
19:36
Speaker 1: or the assignment or the purpose to look a certain way,
19:41
Speaker 1: you know, and when it doesn't look a certain way,
19:44
Speaker 1: we dismiss it as that's not it right.
19:46
Speaker 2: That's just the.
19:47
Speaker 1: Thing that I'm good at doing, right, you know, if
19:51
Speaker 1: if I can sum it up for myself, he told
19:54
Speaker 1: me to help the helper, as simple as that is,
19:56
Speaker 1: help the helper. What does that look like. Well, it
19:58
Speaker 1: could be, hey, let me help produce a podcast. Right
20:02
Speaker 1: for somebody else, it may be, hey, I got all
20:05
Speaker 1: these thoughts and ideas the Lord has given me.
20:06
Speaker 2: Oh well, let me give you some systems to put
20:08
Speaker 2: that in place.
20:09
Speaker 1: Right for somebody else, it may be a woman who
20:12
Speaker 1: just needs her hair done. And in that, in that moment,
20:15
Speaker 1: I'm able to speak what the Lord says over her,
20:17
Speaker 1: I'm able to pray over her.
20:19
Speaker 2: That's helping the help her, you know.
20:20
Speaker 1: And so I had to sit in that like I
20:23
Speaker 1: love doing all the things that I love to do, right,
20:25
Speaker 1: But at the underlying of that, it's literally to show
20:28
Speaker 1: the heart of the Lord in the way that He's
20:30
Speaker 1: given me to do it. And so if you think
20:33
Speaker 1: about you're in education, well who are you educating.
20:37
Speaker 2: The dance studio? Who is who is the dance studio.
20:40
Speaker 1: For so, I believe what he's giving you is is
20:43
Speaker 1: a heart to help cultivate.
20:45
Speaker 2: The younger generations absolutely in.
20:47
Speaker 1: Different ways and and and he's given you a certain
20:49
Speaker 1: way to do that. And when you really begin to
20:52
Speaker 1: lean in and be okay with how he's giving you
20:55
Speaker 1: to do it, like it's gonna be like booth. Yeah,
20:59
Speaker 1: she just says thing that had me thinking, like if
21:03
Speaker 1: we ask asked the question, ask yourself, what do you
21:05
Speaker 1: think dance is?
21:07
Speaker 4: Right?
21:09
Speaker 2: Answer that? What is dance to you? And then I'm
21:12
Speaker 2: gonna tell you what I heard.
21:13
Speaker 5: Okay, So honestly, to me, I'm believe it or not.
21:17
Speaker 5: I am very bashful. I'm super silly, but I'm so bashful. Right,
21:21
Speaker 5: But dance, to me, I'm able to express creatively, you
21:26
Speaker 5: know what I mean, how I feel through movement. Sometimes
21:29
Speaker 5: I don't have to say anything because it's in my body.
21:31
Speaker 5: It's in the movement. And so that's what dance is
21:34
Speaker 5: to me. It's just expressing I can however I'm feeling.
21:39
Speaker 5: It don't matter the song, you know, it just depends
21:42
Speaker 5: on how I'm feeling.
21:42
Speaker 4: I'm able to express that.
21:44
Speaker 5: And so to go back to desiree me cultivating that
21:50
Speaker 5: or bringing that to the younger generations. A lot of
21:53
Speaker 5: them are like me. A lot of them don't may
21:56
Speaker 5: not know how to verbalize certain things, but I can
22:00
Speaker 5: express it through my movement, you know what I mean?
22:04
Speaker 5: And so that that is really who I.
22:06
Speaker 4: Love being around.
22:07
Speaker 5: All dancers, but those are my favorite. That's who I target.
22:11
Speaker 4: Even in education.
22:12
Speaker 5: I'm not even just gonna say dancers, but even in
22:14
Speaker 5: education because I teach science, but I notice that I
22:19
Speaker 5: can get through hands on, through movement, whatever we're doing.
22:24
Speaker 4: In their classroom.
22:25
Speaker 5: I can tell them all day and I say, all right, y'all,
22:27
Speaker 5: le's get up, let's do this, and then we do it,
22:29
Speaker 5: and it's like, okay, so, which I just got. Now
22:31
Speaker 5: you're able to articulate what's going on, you know what
22:33
Speaker 5: I mean? And I can help that kid that can't
22:36
Speaker 5: necessarily express verbally but they can express it through their movement.
22:42
Speaker 2: That you hit it spot on whatever.
22:45
Speaker 1: Like literally, I heard the Lord say, dance is the
22:49
Speaker 1: body's language, and you're teaching body language to people that
22:58
Speaker 1: don't know how to articulate with their mouth.
23:01
Speaker 2: Because you were.
23:01
Speaker 1: Muzzled earlier, you said you stopped dancing you said you
23:11
Speaker 1: stopped dancing after you had your son.
23:14
Speaker 5: Take me there, who Okay, Well it right, Okay, I did.
23:24
Speaker 4: I stopped dancing.
23:25
Speaker 5: I was married, okay, and we had a son, of course,
23:31
Speaker 5: And it was always told to me, and not just
23:34
Speaker 5: from the marriage, but just in my family. I came
23:37
Speaker 5: from a really big family that was very their way
23:41
Speaker 5: is their way, and that's the right way. And so
23:44
Speaker 5: by me having a son, I should not be dancing
23:47
Speaker 5: the way that I should be dancing because.
23:50
Speaker 4: They told you that that's what it was given.
23:53
Speaker 5: It was never communicated directly to me, but it was
23:56
Speaker 5: communicated enough for me.
23:57
Speaker 4: To process that that's what it was.
24:01
Speaker 5: I don't need him to he shouldn't be doing the
24:03
Speaker 5: dances that I'm doing, or you know, I don't, you
24:06
Speaker 5: know whatever, And so that shut me down a little bit,
24:10
Speaker 5: and also not having a support behind it or whatever.
24:14
Speaker 5: So growing up, y'all, I had to dim my light
24:19
Speaker 5: a lot. So I know who I am, right, I
24:23
Speaker 5: know who I am, I know what.
24:24
Speaker 4: I'm capable of. I know the gift that God gave me.
24:27
Speaker 5: But a lot of times I had to shut that
24:30
Speaker 5: down for the sake of other people, you know, for
24:34
Speaker 5: the people pleasing. Yeah, And so I think that me
24:38
Speaker 5: stopping doing something that I absolutely love that brings me
24:42
Speaker 5: complete peace. I had to stop there to please and
24:46
Speaker 5: appeal the people that I loved or whatever.
24:50
Speaker 2: Something was it your mom, your parents, your husband.
24:54
Speaker 5: At the time doing when I stopped, it was my husband.
24:58
Speaker 5: I needed to be home, or I needed to be more.
25:00
Speaker 5: I needed to be around my kids, I needed, you know.
25:02
Speaker 5: And there was no support when I was trying to
25:04
Speaker 5: do it. Growing up, I was singing, I would dance,
25:08
Speaker 5: and I remember my mom would tell me, Okay, that's
25:10
Speaker 5: almost like that's enough, and I'm just.
25:12
Speaker 4: Like, well, I'm just having fun. I'm just dancing, I'm
25:14
Speaker 4: just singing.
25:15
Speaker 5: And as I got in the as I became an adult,
25:17
Speaker 5: I remember her saying, I just didn't like the way
25:19
Speaker 5: people looked at you, or I just didn't like what
25:21
Speaker 5: they said, or I just didn't wanna hear nobody saying
25:23
Speaker 5: you were too grown or you was doing too much.
25:26
Speaker 4: So because my light was so bright, I had to dim.
25:31
Speaker 5: I got so used to diming for others so that
25:33
Speaker 5: they wouldn't feel like.
25:35
Speaker 4: My life's not that bright, you know what I mean.
25:38
Speaker 5: And so I think a lot of that childhood plays
25:42
Speaker 5: into my now, so I downplay a lot of things.
25:47
Speaker 4: I've had a lot of people tell me like, y,
25:48
Speaker 4: I don't think you know who you are? Mm, you
25:50
Speaker 4: don't know who you are?
25:51
Speaker 5: Like do you realize what you're doing if you were?
25:52
Speaker 5: And I always say like, oh, that's n you know.
25:54
Speaker 5: I just it's just a little dance or it's just
25:57
Speaker 5: a little production.
25:57
Speaker 4: Oh, Candyland, do.
25:58
Speaker 2: You know what you just produced at the car for?
26:00
Speaker 2: By the way? Oh okay, I mean just eating right.
26:05
Speaker 5: And I'm just like, oh, yeah, it's okay. Because I've
26:07
Speaker 5: I had to learn so early on to humble myself that.
26:11
Speaker 4: I became too humbled.
26:13
Speaker 5: Like it was I don't even think it was the
26:15
Speaker 5: right word at that point, because it went humbling and
26:17
Speaker 5: it was just like you really wanted me to miss
26:20
Speaker 5: who I am?
26:22
Speaker 2: Are you the only child?
26:24
Speaker 4: I'm my mom's only child.
26:25
Speaker 5: My dad has two boys, so I have two brothers
26:28
Speaker 5: by my dad, but i'm dad. I'm my mom's the
26:30
Speaker 5: only child. Okay, So so I was the only child,
26:34
Speaker 5: the spoiled one, you know. I come like I said,
26:37
Speaker 5: it's eighteen of us grands so but I'm the only
26:41
Speaker 5: one that's by myself. So I remember I had a
26:43
Speaker 5: cousin that literally told me you had everything.
26:45
Speaker 4: So when you went home, we told up your toys,
26:47
Speaker 4: like we'll come over there and destroy your stuff just.
26:49
Speaker 5: Because and so growing like looking at back at all
26:53
Speaker 5: of that, I'm looking at Okay, I see why. My
26:55
Speaker 5: mom was just kind of kind of protecting me. But
26:57
Speaker 5: it kind of missed me up a little bit, you know,
27:00
Speaker 5: because it was like, now I don't accept or I'm not.
27:05
Speaker 5: You asked me something earlier basically like I'm not. I
27:09
Speaker 5: have to sit in it. I'm not sitting in a
27:11
Speaker 5: lot of things because it's almost like, oh, it's okay,
27:14
Speaker 5: it's just that's a part of it. Oh I gotta
27:16
Speaker 5: keep going, you know.
27:18
Speaker 2: It's called avoidance.
27:20
Speaker 4: Yeah.
27:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I've had to deal with that myself. And
27:24
Speaker 1: I want to validate you because I get being in
27:27
Speaker 1: a space where you have to dim your life.
27:29
Speaker 2: I had a cousin. Yeah, I'm finna say it. I'm
27:33
Speaker 2: finna say it.
27:34
Speaker 1: I had a cousin recently. I had a cousin recently
27:38
Speaker 1: to say who do you think you are? And when
27:44
Speaker 1: it slapped off of me and text message, and I
27:47
Speaker 1: still had to give them the grace of the Lord.
27:50
Speaker 2: Versus the west side of that.
27:53
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring it out because you see me
27:57
Speaker 1: where I am, and it it does something to you.
28:04
Speaker 1: Even though I've impacted, you know what I'm saying. So
28:07
Speaker 1: I've been I have to intentionally decide go with the
28:10
Speaker 1: impact and not not go with the cloud, because cloud
28:13
Speaker 1: and impact can look but it's totally different. It's the
28:17
Speaker 1: it's the stuff that y'all don't know. People coming to
28:20
Speaker 1: you and saying that dance just did something.
28:22
Speaker 2: To me, the audience.
28:23
Speaker 1: I've heard my daddy, Oh my goodness, when I tell
28:27
Speaker 1: you he enjoyed the mess.
28:29
Speaker 2: Out of there, Kurt Franklin and for me for me
28:34
Speaker 2: to no, no.
28:40
Speaker 1: For me, that passed on joy to me because you know,
28:44
Speaker 1: daddy has cancer, so any ounce of joy that he
28:49
Speaker 1: experienced is my joy. Right you're you don't You don't
28:53
Speaker 1: even see the impact that you're making. You're just doing
28:56
Speaker 1: walking in obedience. And so when people.
28:59
Speaker 2: Aren't impacted full uh huh.
29:02
Speaker 1: Because of their disobedience that they disregard, they say, you
29:08
Speaker 1: know what, since I decided not to, I want her
29:11
Speaker 1: to not to either. And so I get that from
29:16
Speaker 1: a stance of why you've muzzled yourself, but avoiding the
29:20
Speaker 1: thing we have to It's so easy to avoid because
29:24
Speaker 1: you're like a in a sense. Avoidance allows you to say,
29:28
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not gonna deal with that right now,
29:31
Speaker 1: and right now is an everyday thing for you? Yeah,
29:34
Speaker 1: like it becomes every day for you. But it disrupts
29:40
Speaker 1: Now we're talking about the daughter, God's daughter. What's disrupting
29:46
Speaker 1: the daughter that impacts the business woman? So now I
29:51
Speaker 1: can't I can't juggle this or I'm frustrated here. I'm
29:56
Speaker 1: not seeing here because I've avoided there.
29:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, good, I can't see I can't.
30:02
Speaker 1: See here because I'm avoiding what happened back there. And
30:06
Speaker 1: so I really, I really pray for you, like even
30:08
Speaker 1: in this moment that you're you have the strength to
30:11
Speaker 1: go back there, because when I know one thing that
30:13
Speaker 1: when the Lord takes us back there is because he
30:15
Speaker 1: trusts us to manage what we see and we have
30:19
Speaker 1: the ability to see it differently. And so I'm really
30:23
Speaker 1: grateful for you sharing that with us, because for you
30:28
Speaker 1: to say that, you put down something that really impacts you.
30:36
Speaker 2: First, you know what I'm saying.
30:37
Speaker 1: When we talk about doing ministry, we talk about we're
30:41
Speaker 1: the first ministry we experience, right, and if we're not
30:44
Speaker 1: okay with ourselves, it's kind of hard to project, like
30:46
Speaker 1: how you see this?
30:48
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it, I get it.
30:50
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to know if, like going back to
30:55
Speaker 1: this question, what did you think you would be doing
30:58
Speaker 1: right now? There there was no dance? What did you
31:01
Speaker 1: think you would be doing?
31:03
Speaker 5: Iestly went to school from pre med. I really thought
31:06
Speaker 5: I was going to be a pediatrician.
31:08
Speaker 2: What's up with you? And desiberate thinking, y'all gonna stick
31:10
Speaker 2: with this.
31:11
Speaker 1: I don't even like noodles or and or blood, by
31:13
Speaker 1: the way, I thought a pediatrician. Why why let me
31:19
Speaker 1: tell you?
31:19
Speaker 5: Okay, So I love science doing I love life science,
31:23
Speaker 5: and my favorite is like anatomy or like just dealing
31:27
Speaker 5: with like the different systems, and so the digestive system
31:31
Speaker 5: is probably my favorite, right, and so I just always
31:35
Speaker 5: was fascinated about how that works.
31:37
Speaker 4: And I used to just research.
31:39
Speaker 5: So I studied biology pre med, and I thought I
31:42
Speaker 5: was going to medical school, and I really thought I
31:44
Speaker 5: was gonna be a gas storenturologist.
31:46
Speaker 4: Oh who gas? I thought I was gonna deal with
31:48
Speaker 4: the digesticis.
31:49
Speaker 5: Okay, because but I wanted to doctor Jessica g I
31:55
Speaker 5: still to ask.
31:57
Speaker 2: I'm still to ask me.
31:59
Speaker 4: I really did.
32:00
Speaker 5: And so when I had my son, while I was
32:02
Speaker 5: still in school, and I was still gonna do it,
32:03
Speaker 5: and I was just applying and I couldn't never m
32:06
Speaker 5: cat scores weren't good. I just couldn't couldn't get it.
32:10
Speaker 5: And I was just like, I'm just gonna go work
32:12
Speaker 5: at the bank.
32:12
Speaker 4: You know, you just go forever. I'm just gonna go
32:14
Speaker 4: to the.
32:14
Speaker 5: Bank or so I'm I don't know, go picking week
32:16
Speaker 5: and go back where I came from.
32:18
Speaker 4: But I ended up high peed. I used to work
32:21
Speaker 4: shout out to the pig. I used to work there
32:23
Speaker 4: in high schools for.
32:24
Speaker 2: Five five for twenty you get to buy.
32:26
Speaker 5: Five, yeah, five for nineteen out of nine, pick five.
32:30
Speaker 2: Pig five.
32:30
Speaker 1: That's what it was.
32:31
Speaker 2: Shout out to the pig to make sure we get
32:33
Speaker 2: to meet with the meal.
32:37
Speaker 4: So, yeah, that's what I wanted to do.
32:39
Speaker 5: And honestly, education was a backup because that at that point,
32:43
Speaker 5: I was still teaching certain kids and doing dance, popping
32:46
Speaker 5: up at different schools, and I knew I love kids,
32:49
Speaker 5: and I knew I little science. So I was like,
32:51
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna go back for education, and I got
32:52
Speaker 5: my master's in education.
32:53
Speaker 1: Okay, we thank God because not saying you couldn't do,
33:00
Speaker 1: but we wouldn't have the dance with you because you
33:03
Speaker 1: we have the doctor and people understand.
33:06
Speaker 5: It now like I noticed stuff, but it makes so
33:09
Speaker 5: much sense now, Okay, God, that's why you.
33:11
Speaker 1: Said, well, I want to tap into your motherhood for
33:14
Speaker 1: a second, because I genuinely didn't realize that you had
33:17
Speaker 1: a son.
33:18
Speaker 2: I did not realize you had a son, but that.
33:22
Speaker 1: Daughter, that daughter. I I let me just say this.
33:28
Speaker 1: I enjoy watching you guys do relationship. I'm grateful I've
33:34
Speaker 1: shared on this platform that my mother and I have had,
33:38
Speaker 1: you know, to grow and develop in our relationship, just
33:41
Speaker 1: for multiple reasons. You know, kimll and I live with
33:43
Speaker 1: our daddy for like ever, and that that the mother experience,
33:51
Speaker 1: the mother dar experience that I would probably have liked,
33:54
Speaker 1: I didn't get, just mainly because you know, daddy had
33:57
Speaker 1: one custody of us and that was an everyday thing
34:00
Speaker 1: and trying to learn and navigate.
34:02
Speaker 2: And so when I see women.
34:03
Speaker 1: With their daughter, especially as young as yours and y'all
34:06
Speaker 1: it's almost like she your twin, like like your best friend,
34:09
Speaker 1: your acepo and gone. She's walking in the it seems
34:12
Speaker 1: like she's walking in the same steps. As far as
34:15
Speaker 1: like the love of dance, when did you start seeing
34:19
Speaker 1: that in her?
34:19
Speaker 2: And how did you?
34:21
Speaker 1: How did you push her without dragging her into a
34:25
Speaker 1: decision with dance?
34:27
Speaker 5: Honestly, she claims she does not like to dance. She said,
34:31
Speaker 5: she just do it because I just do it, just
34:33
Speaker 5: because she's actually into sports, like she likes basketball and track.
34:38
Speaker 5: And I still don't understand why she's still on my stage.
34:45
Speaker 4: It's like I pack up and give her head to
34:46
Speaker 4: the studio. She got on her dance quit.
34:50
Speaker 5: But it's funny. She says that I think it's just natural.
34:53
Speaker 5: It's just in her because when she was a baby,
34:55
Speaker 5: and that's all she did. And I remember being she
34:58
Speaker 5: was probably like six months and she was dream and
35:00
Speaker 5: holler and we would think, maybe she need a bottle,
35:02
Speaker 5: maybe she needs this, But it was the atmosphere. So
35:05
Speaker 5: if she would leave out of it, if we were
35:06
Speaker 5: leaving a part like a family reunion or picking anywhere
35:09
Speaker 5: with music, and we get in her car seat and
35:12
Speaker 5: get in the car before the car. Cat start no,
35:14
Speaker 5: like she losing it, like just crying. We'll get out
35:17
Speaker 5: the car, get her back together, take her back inside
35:19
Speaker 5: she like. And one time they took her out. It's
35:23
Speaker 5: a video and it's so funny because back then videos
35:26
Speaker 5: weren't like they are now, so it's kind of blurry.
35:28
Speaker 5: But they took her out and sit home on the thing.
35:31
Speaker 5: As soon as it was an old song like I
35:33
Speaker 5: Need You, she was just like but she was like
35:37
Speaker 5: eight mine.
35:38
Speaker 4: We was like, this is what it was. She wanted dance,
35:41
Speaker 4: It's just natural. She just all she do. But I
35:44
Speaker 4: don't dance. I don't I don't like to dance.
35:48
Speaker 2: How have you I don't.
35:49
Speaker 1: See yourself healed through y'all's relationship from the opportunities that
35:55
Speaker 1: you and your mom might have experienced in y'all's relationship.
35:58
Speaker 1: How do I see her like so navigating your relationship
36:01
Speaker 1: with your daughter? Now? How have you seen yourself healed
36:04
Speaker 1: from certain patterns that you saw with you and your mom?
36:08
Speaker 5: I let her and some people may disagree, but I
36:12
Speaker 5: let her be free. I mean she still had boundaries,
36:16
Speaker 5: but as far as expressing who she is and get
36:21
Speaker 5: figuring herself out, I let her do that with grace.
36:25
Speaker 5: I give her the grace I give you know, I
36:26
Speaker 5: still guide her, but I don't shut her down immediately
36:30
Speaker 5: just because it doesn't look good or I may think
36:34
Speaker 5: it don't look good to others. So I think that's
36:37
Speaker 5: probably the only thing that I'm watching through her.
36:42
Speaker 4: But I didn't do that with my son. I was
36:45
Speaker 4: how I am. My son is me.
36:47
Speaker 5: So I'm watching him battle with confidence. I'm watching and
36:50
Speaker 5: he's so handsome, and I'm watching him looking and like
36:53
Speaker 5: looking down or he had lots he had to cut
36:55
Speaker 5: him because he was hiding them.
36:57
Speaker 4: So like their night and day.
36:58
Speaker 5: But with my daughter, I'm giving her a little more
37:01
Speaker 5: freedom to learn who she is. And even if it's
37:04
Speaker 5: some stuff, I'm just like, that's around tell you, I'll
37:09
Speaker 5: just like.
37:09
Speaker 4: Just keep praying. I'm trying to let her figure it out.
37:12
Speaker 4: You know, I don't want her to do that, Like
37:14
Speaker 4: why would she say that?
37:15
Speaker 5: Even I know when me growing up, I was kind
37:19
Speaker 5: of coached through certain stuff like don't go in there,
37:21
Speaker 5: saying it, don't you go in here, because you know,
37:23
Speaker 5: you never.
37:23
Speaker 4: Know what's gonna come out with a kid.
37:25
Speaker 5: Whereas with her, I just kind of let her talk,
37:28
Speaker 5: like she'll give me that lit like, did I go
37:29
Speaker 5: to far? I don't, looking like yes, but it's fine,
37:32
Speaker 5: But I just try to let her figure herself out.
37:35
Speaker 1: Aly bit tell me making her conversation that you and
37:40
Speaker 1: your son had that made you make that sweet with
37:42
Speaker 1: your daughter.
37:44
Speaker 5: No, not, well, we've had several conversations. He mentions all
37:48
Speaker 5: the time on his safe space.
37:50
Speaker 4: I don't believe it. I think he be talking to somebody.
37:54
Speaker 5: But anytime he ain'tybody asking me, he says like, it's
37:56
Speaker 5: my mom my safe space and he's talked to like,
37:58
Speaker 5: and I'm just why I can see it and I
38:01
Speaker 5: see me and.
38:02
Speaker 4: I'm just so I learned that their love languages are.
38:05
Speaker 5: Different, Like my daughter is a quality time person, but
38:08
Speaker 5: my son is an affirmation Yeah and so and I'm both.
38:13
Speaker 5: So it's so funny that I see me in both
38:15
Speaker 5: of them. Yeah and so I have to I always
38:18
Speaker 5: And I picked it up late. I picked it up
38:20
Speaker 5: really late with him, but I picked it up when.
38:22
Speaker 5: But it took me to see me though this y
38:25
Speaker 5: the issues that I what I was dealing with or
38:27
Speaker 5: how I was handling things to realize, like you bringing
38:31
Speaker 5: it on to him, You brought that generational issue to
38:34
Speaker 5: your son. So now it's up to you to try
38:36
Speaker 5: to do what you can to kind of fix that.
38:40
Speaker 5: And so we've had conversations, but like I said, I
38:44
Speaker 5: think it's just more of me noticing the more I
38:46
Speaker 5: see me, I see him, and when I see the
38:49
Speaker 5: more that I see me, and I try to make
38:52
Speaker 5: that adjustment. Then I try to give him that room
38:55
Speaker 5: to adjust or just try to remind him of who.
38:56
Speaker 4: He is, like, hey, you that dude that got Yeah,
39:00
Speaker 4: but he had.
39:00
Speaker 5: So Yeah, but he would hide and I'm high and
39:03
Speaker 5: like you just said, a waiter, he avoids, he hides.
39:07
Speaker 5: He's okay with helping, but being in the background. Yeah,
39:10
Speaker 5: he's okay with whatever you need me to do, Jez,
39:13
Speaker 5: keep me up off the spotlight.
39:15
Speaker 4: That's him. And I'm like, that's so me.
39:17
Speaker 1: That's on me, wanted, wanted, wanting. What if what if
39:22
Speaker 1: that's not what you really wanted?
39:24
Speaker 2: What that was? What if that was what you were
39:26
Speaker 2: trained or trained yourself?
39:27
Speaker 5: And it could be trained, It could be more so
39:30
Speaker 5: training at this point.
39:32
Speaker 4: Minute, you look good, girl, it's trained.
39:36
Speaker 5: Sure, it's a matter of thank you.
39:41
Speaker 2: Cute she just caught that. I think, girl, you look good.
39:48
Speaker 2: It looks like, Okay, you know what I'm saying.
39:51
Speaker 4: Water this morning.
39:52
Speaker 2: Listen, Drinking water would do some things for you.
39:55
Speaker 4: Okay, water this morning.
39:56
Speaker 1: So we we've talked about a lot, and I'm curiou
40:00
Speaker 1: about something because I saw you do a post not
40:02
Speaker 1: too long ago with is it Abny Arrington?
40:06
Speaker 2: Did I say her name right now?
40:08
Speaker 1: She? She's been around a long time. That that I
40:11
Speaker 1: think that was if I know.
40:14
Speaker 2: So, I'm not trying to make this a cultural thing,
40:16
Speaker 2: but that this is my right. I knew a lot
40:19
Speaker 2: of white.
40:20
Speaker 1: People are Caucasian brothers and sisters. Shout out to y'all
40:22
Speaker 1: that had, you know, dance studios. And one of my
40:27
Speaker 1: friends in high school she went to those days to
40:29
Speaker 1: those I think it was like one in hugh Town
40:31
Speaker 1: or something like greg probably. So. I don't know their name,
40:35
Speaker 1: but I remember Ebny Arrington because it was such a
40:37
Speaker 1: big deal. Seven Jams was always promoting it, and all
40:42
Speaker 1: the black girls was in there.
40:44
Speaker 2: They was, they was in there.
40:45
Speaker 5: Okay, like the produced some talented dancing. Oh yeah, point
40:50
Speaker 5: some talented dancers. There's dancing Broadway in New York to
40:55
Speaker 5: this day. Her and Jack Lockart.
40:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I I think I appreciated that post because
41:02
Speaker 1: I don't think. I never thought about studios being a
41:08
Speaker 1: competitive measure against each other.
41:10
Speaker 2: Have you experienced that I have?
41:14
Speaker 1: Okay, are you free to talk about Okay, ain't trying
41:18
Speaker 1: to start, no mask.
41:19
Speaker 5: I'm just curious because I didn't think. I'm like, it's
41:23
Speaker 5: you dancing.
41:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it is.
41:25
Speaker 5: And what I've learned is that everybody. Everybody has their
41:29
Speaker 5: their people. You know you're gonna go to who you
41:32
Speaker 5: go to, and that's okay. But I learned later on
41:36
Speaker 5: that I was in competition and I had no clue.
41:41
Speaker 5: I've had local studio owners, black owned to reach out
41:46
Speaker 5: to my instructors, have meetings with them, and when they
41:48
Speaker 5: say they're okay where they are, they made the coming,
41:51
Speaker 5: Oh you faithful, oh you lord, your lawyer, and it's
41:55
Speaker 5: just like, well, we could do this together. But also,
41:58
Speaker 5: this is the same owner that I've reached out to
42:02
Speaker 5: before I had my studio and asked to help out.
42:06
Speaker 4: I was willing to help THEMN Yeah, I want. I
42:09
Speaker 4: wanted to just teach again.
42:11
Speaker 5: I never ever, but God, I thank you for your nose,
42:15
Speaker 5: even when I didn't understand it. I just thank you
42:17
Speaker 5: for your nose because talking through it makes me realize, like, man,
42:20
Speaker 5: you really be like.
42:23
Speaker 4: And I'd be like, I'm gonna do this. He's like, no,
42:25
Speaker 4: you're not.
42:25
Speaker 5: But I've I've reached out and in a minute, like
42:29
Speaker 5: I would be left on red. And the minute that
42:33
Speaker 5: I started my business, I got a message and it
42:37
Speaker 5: was like, I never knew you danced.
42:39
Speaker 2: From the that same I know you dance.
42:41
Speaker 4: Congratulations girl. Why didn't you tell me you did? Point?
42:44
Speaker 4: Why didn't you tell me? And I had to make
42:46
Speaker 4: sure I wasn't triven so I had.
42:47
Speaker 5: To scroll you go look it up, see it right
42:50
Speaker 5: here twenty twenty one, nineteen. I said, hey, let me
42:54
Speaker 5: know you see that, And so I was just like okay,
42:58
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I told you.
42:59
Speaker 4: I'd even tried.
43:00
Speaker 5: I've even my daughter, Even with my studio going, my
43:03
Speaker 5: daughter has been a part of something that she does
43:07
Speaker 5: that I think is amazing, and so we've supported. But
43:11
Speaker 5: I noticed that it's not reciprocated. And I'm not the
43:14
Speaker 5: type that if it's not reciprocated, I'm not gonna do it.
43:16
Speaker 5: But at some point I can go and support other things. Yeah,
43:20
Speaker 5: and so yeah, it's bad. So when when I reached
43:23
Speaker 5: out to her. I reached out to everybody that was
43:26
Speaker 5: in that in that arena, just letting them know like, hey,
43:29
Speaker 5: this is what I'm doing.
43:30
Speaker 4: I love your support. Blah blah blah.
43:32
Speaker 5: If you have any insights shared with me, because I
43:35
Speaker 5: don't know, you know, and Ebanie Airton and Jackie Lockhart
43:39
Speaker 5: will immediately like what you need, whatever you need, I
43:43
Speaker 5: got it.
43:44
Speaker 4: Hey have you thought about this? Have you thought about that?
43:46
Speaker 5: I can reach out to this particular owner and say, hey,
43:48
Speaker 5: where did you get this from? Or you'll say, I
43:52
Speaker 5: don't know, someplace in New York or some place in well,
43:55
Speaker 5: you know the place.
43:56
Speaker 4: Can you go back and tell me it's okay? So
43:59
Speaker 4: it is.
44:00
Speaker 5: It's sad, unfortunately, but I'm grateful for the village that
44:04
Speaker 5: I do have, because, like I said, when Evan and
44:07
Speaker 5: Ayrton called me that day, we were together. We were
44:09
Speaker 5: actually together because she was doing pictures for her dancers,
44:13
Speaker 5: and she said.
44:13
Speaker 4: Hey, have you done studio pictures? And I said, no,
44:16
Speaker 4: I ain't thought about that.
44:18
Speaker 2: No.
44:18
Speaker 4: She said, well, come on, you can come on.
44:20
Speaker 5: And get on the schedule with us. And I got
44:22
Speaker 5: on their schedule, so we did it together. I don't
44:24
Speaker 5: know if you've seen you on these pictures, but they.
44:25
Speaker 1: Were so po Evan Ayrton's pictures always do they go
44:31
Speaker 1: to a whole nother le.
44:32
Speaker 4: She did.
44:33
Speaker 5: She invited me in. She said, I'm doing inventory I have.
44:36
Speaker 5: This lady has been in business over thirty years. So
44:38
Speaker 5: she's like, I have so many uniforms, come see what
44:40
Speaker 5: you need. So a couple of uniforms that they wore
44:43
Speaker 5: in this past recital was from Evan and Ayrton.
44:47
Speaker 4: Jackie Lockhart. She donated Marley Dance.
44:50
Speaker 5: Floor not might as well have given it away for
44:53
Speaker 5: the price that she sold them to, you know what
44:55
Speaker 5: I mean. So it's literally people that want to see
44:58
Speaker 5: the arts awesome. And so my hope is that we
45:03
Speaker 5: can all I've always had I've always do. I've done
45:05
Speaker 5: dancing in the city within, but my goal is to
45:09
Speaker 5: do dancing in the city, literally dancing in the city.
45:12
Speaker 5: And it's bringing all of these these black owned fine
45:16
Speaker 5: arts companies together and dance in the city.
45:20
Speaker 2: I think I should do that.
45:21
Speaker 1: I think that that would be dope, Like especially during February,
45:24
Speaker 1: like the month of February, or even a June.
45:26
Speaker 2: Teeth thing or whatever. You know, if you need a host.
45:30
Speaker 4: Okay, look at this right.
45:33
Speaker 5: Writing down, you know, history recording, you know, if you
45:37
Speaker 5: need a host, I think that, Yeah, all right, not
45:43
Speaker 5: a week week.
45:44
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying on fire, shout out my
45:50
Speaker 2: girl week over that way.
45:56
Speaker 1: She's gonna be her song, trust me, trust me, she's
45:58
Speaker 1: gonna be her soul. But I think that would be dope.
46:02
Speaker 1: I think that, and it's needed. It's really neat. The
46:05
Speaker 1: one thing that frustrated me is when they started taking
46:10
Speaker 1: arts out of the schools.
46:11
Speaker 2: Yes, that was my big, biggest frustration.
46:14
Speaker 1: I played violin when I was in elementary school.
46:22
Speaker 2: Listen, my I.
46:24
Speaker 1: Think my lady was named is pain on Miss Pittman.
46:27
Speaker 1: I think it's Pittman.
46:29
Speaker 2: Listen, And I think I could have done a lot.
46:34
Speaker 4: Now.
46:34
Speaker 1: My reason for stopping was because Daddy had to go
46:37
Speaker 1: overseas and we've moved to Atlanta. My mama, so my
46:41
Speaker 1: mama wasn't trying to do all that. Mama was like nah,
46:45
Speaker 1: and I had a teacher willing, but she was.
46:48
Speaker 2: It just went't working out.
46:49
Speaker 1: But that was one of the most freeing experiences that
46:54
Speaker 1: I just loved learning how to play the violin. It
46:57
Speaker 1: was very unique. And so when the school starts taking
47:00
Speaker 1: the arts. I feel like that's when you saw a
47:04
Speaker 1: new level of.
47:06
Speaker 2: I hate to say this, I really hate to say this.
47:09
Speaker 2: Let me say it like this.
47:12
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak life into the kids safe. I saw
47:22
Speaker 1: another level of dysfunction, like greater levels of dysfunction because
47:26
Speaker 1: there was no escape, no escape because the book smart,
47:30
Speaker 1: not the not the traditional book smart. Now I'm smart now,
47:33
Speaker 1: but traditional book smart. That's why you were g I
47:35
Speaker 1: a O gotro passed. Whatever you said, that ain't me.
47:41
Speaker 1: But I can tell you how to branding market I
47:43
Speaker 1: can tell you how to do this podcast.
47:45
Speaker 2: I can tell you how to learn your art. I
47:47
Speaker 2: can do that smart. You know what I'm saying.
47:50
Speaker 1: But I think that it really took a toll on
47:54
Speaker 1: the escape for children.
47:57
Speaker 2: What have you seen as.
47:58
Speaker 1: A teacher from that end? And I know I heard
48:01
Speaker 1: you say that you get them to move or whatever,
48:03
Speaker 1: But what other unique ways do you offer an art
48:08
Speaker 1: outlet for your students.
48:10
Speaker 5: So I've purposely connected or gotten close with the theater teacher. Okay,
48:17
Speaker 5: I'm intentionally. My best friend is the assistant band director.
48:20
Speaker 5: So a lot of times, even though I teach science,
48:23
Speaker 5: I still try to connect with them and give suggestions
48:28
Speaker 5: and ideas and even though they're not in your class, Hey,
48:31
Speaker 5: I have these kids right here. He's always doing this,
48:34
Speaker 5: So like just being that middleman and connecting them to
48:40
Speaker 5: other things, because like you said, it is lost. The
48:42
Speaker 5: sad thing is I teach high school, so by the
48:45
Speaker 5: time they get to high.
48:46
Speaker 4: School, a lot of them lack that.
48:49
Speaker 5: Like that.
48:49
Speaker 4: It's nothing.
48:50
Speaker 5: It's not that they're lacking it or they're not interested,
48:53
Speaker 5: they just don't know. And if they don't know, then
48:55
Speaker 5: they don't care to know at that point. Yeah, I
48:57
Speaker 5: think it really supposed to start an elementary. He's missing
49:01
Speaker 5: the elementary. But I think I'm me being the middle
49:04
Speaker 5: man and connecting these kids that I see every day
49:07
Speaker 5: because I'm the only ninth grade teacher.
49:09
Speaker 4: So I see every ninth grader that coming to.
49:11
Speaker 2: Only ninth grade signed biology teacher. Okay, because about to say, it's.
49:14
Speaker 5: Only one ninth grade science class, so every ninth grader
49:17
Speaker 5: that come in the building.
49:18
Speaker 1: And don't you ain't that crazy. I don't want to
49:21
Speaker 1: put your school out there, but you got to be
49:22
Speaker 1: a school.
49:23
Speaker 4: On the web side, it was a big this class because.
49:27
Speaker 2: Don't need y'all stalk because she's fine.
49:29
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just.
49:31
Speaker 2: I don't need y'all stocking.
49:32
Speaker 1: You can ask her on a date because she's open
49:35
Speaker 1: to dating, but don't be stalking friends because she's fine.
49:42
Speaker 4: Right.
49:43
Speaker 5: So you know the classes that are be but by me
49:46
Speaker 5: being able to technically, I get to this twelfth grade
49:49
Speaker 5: class was my first class being there, so I literally
49:53
Speaker 5: get this. Everybody's in that building has come through me,
49:56
Speaker 5: so I get to touch them in some way and
49:58
Speaker 5: introduce them to the fine arts. And it's crazy because
50:00
Speaker 5: I always mentioned my business to them because everybody may
50:03
Speaker 5: not be interested in dance, but a lot of them
50:05
Speaker 5: say you.
50:05
Speaker 4: Round and they like a studio and they like, are
50:08
Speaker 4: you round?
50:09
Speaker 5: And I'm like, no, I don't, but I can connect
50:10
Speaker 5: you like music, you know, or I bring people in.
50:14
Speaker 5: We did a boys conference just one day where I
50:17
Speaker 5: brought some me in.
50:18
Speaker 4: It was alumni for school. That's big, like lea, yeah.
50:25
Speaker 2: My friend up by.
50:26
Speaker 4: The kids love a bit.
50:28
Speaker 5: Of it because that's what they're men saying. All that
50:31
Speaker 5: they're seeing is duel enroall in early college, you know
50:34
Speaker 5: what I mean. They're seeing that so much and it's
50:36
Speaker 5: just like it's not for everybody.
50:37
Speaker 4: So now they need to see trades coming.
50:39
Speaker 5: Well, they see certain trades, but they need to see
50:42
Speaker 5: this podcast. They need to see these artists that worked
50:45
Speaker 5: with Countrywayne he was there or you know, just these
50:48
Speaker 5: different entrepreneurs, black men that grew up in the same
50:51
Speaker 5: community they grew in, so they can see like, oh,
50:53
Speaker 5: and then they weren't up tight, so.
50:55
Speaker 4: They weren't like all right, guys. Today they're like what's
50:57
Speaker 4: up y'all? Like that, you know, but they were able
51:01
Speaker 4: to talk to them.
51:02
Speaker 5: So I think my my role is to connect that
51:06
Speaker 5: be that missing piece.
51:07
Speaker 4: Even though I don't teach.
51:08
Speaker 5: Fine arts, I have a heart and passion for it,
51:11
Speaker 5: so I'm able to find a way to get it
51:14
Speaker 5: in there somehow, some way, somehow.
51:16
Speaker 1: I love that I knew, I knew you was doing.
51:18
Speaker 1: I was just trying to she trying, y'all, she trying.
51:21
Speaker 1: I love that you connect the.
51:24
Speaker 5: Emails to the fine arts department, like, hey, we can
51:26
Speaker 5: this is me.
51:27
Speaker 4: This is what I do.
51:28
Speaker 5: Besides hold up, we can do this, I know. But listen,
51:35
Speaker 5: it's a big thing in education with that what's what's
51:39
Speaker 5: the word? Yeah, yeah, but they don't want they call it.
51:43
Speaker 5: Where do they call it? Pretty much like it's it
51:48
Speaker 5: could almost be an issue depending on who you're talking to.
51:50
Speaker 5: You have to play with your words. Okay, So I
51:53
Speaker 5: can tell you that, and I can send you my information.
51:55
Speaker 5: You can pull it up and you can see what
51:57
Speaker 5: I got going on, you know what I mean? Conflict
52:01
Speaker 5: of interest.
52:02
Speaker 1: That because you just took it out of school. Yeah,
52:05
Speaker 1: and so so what we're conflicting with.
52:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've met, I've been like, I'm actually working on
52:10
Speaker 5: a curriculum right now.
52:11
Speaker 4: I'm gonna pray to that thing.
52:13
Speaker 2: And we're gonna pray and she's gonna say nothing else
52:15
Speaker 2: about it?
52:15
Speaker 1: Is it?
52:16
Speaker 2: And the Lord gonna blow on it. So don't even track.
52:18
Speaker 2: We all witches and warlock that try to that because
52:22
Speaker 2: it's near.
52:23
Speaker 4: It's really needed, it's really needed.
52:25
Speaker 5: We had it, and I think me doing music in
52:28
Speaker 5: elementary school, like you said, the violin or recorder.
52:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's eating was our music teacher tell lights sounding
52:45
Speaker 1: and recorders down.
52:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, that Christmas programs and music playing.
52:52
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you you experienced that. You feel that that
52:55
Speaker 5: was your introduction to showtime, to the lights, the show,
53:00
Speaker 5: the fine arts, the performance, the performing arts. And then
53:03
Speaker 5: you want to do it again and you go to
53:05
Speaker 5: the next little in middle school. Now you really think
53:06
Speaker 5: you're doing something. You got your little shirt that say soprano.
53:09
Speaker 5: And because now we're now.
53:11
Speaker 4: We're in sexis y'all?
53:13
Speaker 2: Did y'all play the xylophone?
53:15
Speaker 5: We did to tell that. I used to tell people
53:19
Speaker 5: I thought.
53:19
Speaker 4: I was doing something because it's just it's missing.
53:23
Speaker 5: Now they've merged them together with band and music, so
53:27
Speaker 5: there is no choir.
53:28
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. And it's just it has
53:30
Speaker 4: to come back. I guess it's just we.
53:33
Speaker 1: Need it because I think it's like that, the dysfunction
53:36
Speaker 1: that we're seeing. I feel like it's gonna it would
53:39
Speaker 1: die down because sports is not the only answer.
53:41
Speaker 4: It's not, I know, not answer.
53:44
Speaker 2: Listen. Let's I played basketball because I needed an outlet.
53:49
Speaker 5: I played volleyball, but I ain't getting in. I was
53:51
Speaker 5: just on the team because my friends.
53:55
Speaker 2: That's all right. This this has definitely been a lovely conversation.
53:58
Speaker 2: I think, what can you she was? She said she
54:01
Speaker 2: was nervous before, but she did a good job. We
54:05
Speaker 2: had a good conversation. I told you, what's what's your
54:08
Speaker 2: thinking over us?
54:08
Speaker 1: Is? No?
54:09
Speaker 2: This is a beautiful conversation.
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Speaker 1: I love to watch too, because you know, It's one
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Speaker 1: thing like when you when you meet somebody and you
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Speaker 1: see where they are right, but I think it's another
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Speaker 1: thing when you actually get to hear the progress of
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Speaker 1: their journey.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I love a good story,
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Speaker 2: I love a good journey, and so I believe.
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Speaker 1: That there's a a moment of there's a transitional moment
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Speaker 1: that happens sometimes when we're able to fully receive and
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Speaker 1: sit in the weight of what God has called us to,
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Speaker 1: you know. And so everybody gets to that point at
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Speaker 1: different times, and I think the friction helps us get
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Speaker 1: there a little bit quicker, you know.
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Speaker 2: And so I'm excited just to kind of see where.
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Speaker 1: Where God takes I'm gonna say the studio, but where
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Speaker 1: God takes Waikiria next m hm. So I'm excited to
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Speaker 1: see that because I got a friendly seat. Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited for you at Kiria. I'm excited for
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Speaker 1: you to be able to embrace the business woman. I'm
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Speaker 1: excited for you to be able to to allow God
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Speaker 1: to blow on what he and He's already done because
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Speaker 1: you have the foundation of the thing. But like I
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Speaker 1: told you earlier and I'm just gonna say this on record,
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Speaker 1: is that the seeds have been planned and I see
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Speaker 1: the sprouts, I see the sprouts, and I know that
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Speaker 1: I'm even seeing the roots of the seed. And that
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Speaker 1: was a season where the Lord allowed, Thank you, Holy
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Speaker 1: Spirit allows you to be hidden so that when you
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Speaker 1: sprouted up, you would be ready to be seen. And
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Speaker 1: there's a responsibility of being seen that we don't we
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Speaker 1: don't really talk about. And I think that the most
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Speaker 1: humble people are the people that God, the God is
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Speaker 1: calling to be visible because they know that they always
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Speaker 1: have to redirect their visibility to who He is. And
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Speaker 1: so you're you're more than prepared, You're more than equipped
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Speaker 1: for this, this season of visibility that you are. You're
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Speaker 1: not even walking in, You're there. You're there, so be visible.
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Speaker 1: Be visible. So as a tradition on just ask, we
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Speaker 1: allow our guests to have the final word. We've talked
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Speaker 1: about a lot. We we've talked about a lot. It's
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Speaker 1: been a good conversation. But if also if you've had
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Speaker 1: anything you're not ready to go, yes, you know, I
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Speaker 1: ain't gonna ask you who was better.
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Speaker 2: I love I love I love my friend, I love you,
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Speaker 2: I love my friend.
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Speaker 1: But as a tradition, I like to give the guests
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Speaker 1: the last the last words. So if you have something
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Speaker 1: on your heart that you want to share, whether it
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Speaker 1: was something that you came in here with or you
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Speaker 1: want to emphasize a part of our conversation, the floor
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Speaker 1: is yours.
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Speaker 4: Hmmm. I only want to say I think you know.
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Speaker 5: I say, only then start saying, but I really want
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Speaker 5: to acknowledge the fact that I really came in here
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Speaker 5: extremely nervous. Yes I know, Desiray, Yes I know you know,
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Speaker 5: I know you, and I've been into space with you all,
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Speaker 5: but I was really really nervous.
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Speaker 4: And what I loved about you the most as soon as.
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Speaker 5: I walked in the door, when you walked out the door,
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Speaker 5: it was just something about your presence, something about your prison,
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Speaker 5: something about your aura.
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Speaker 4: I see it all the time.
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Speaker 5: I watch your podcast, I follow I subscribe with the kids,
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Speaker 5: say light I do, and what I'm really big on
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Speaker 5: picking up on spirits and you know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: I know what was real and what was not. And
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Speaker 5: you are definitely authentic. You're definitely real. I love And
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Speaker 5: it makes sense the reason why y'all to together, because
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Speaker 5: this ray is just Oh, my God.
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Speaker 4: Heaven seen.
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Speaker 5: You know, she's heaven seen. So I just I want
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Speaker 5: to personally thank y'all for having me. I want to
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Speaker 5: thank you for your hospitality, thank you for making me
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Speaker 5: feel comfortable because.
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Speaker 4: This thing was bubbling over here. I mean, but I
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Speaker 4: appreciate y'all.
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Speaker 1: Also, also, y'all, this has been a conversation that I
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Speaker 1: think that it's worthy of you digesting will.
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Speaker 2: If you've had.
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Speaker 1: Struggles with your visibility and being mute, I want to
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Speaker 1: give you the opportunity to seek God, to be too,
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Speaker 1: to be heard in the places where people will actually listen,
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Speaker 1: because you have a tribe, you have, you are called
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Speaker 1: to a people, and I want you to find the
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Speaker 1: confidence of God to do the thing you're supposed to
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Speaker 1: do right and not try to hide away from from
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Speaker 1: the responsibility of visibility, because what happens is we run
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Speaker 1: away from the promises of God by doing that, and
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Speaker 1: we also run away from the love of God, because
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Speaker 1: it says in the Word, if you love Me, then
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Speaker 1: you obey My commands. And it's because out of the
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Speaker 1: more you love God, the more you're willing to obey Him.
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Speaker 1: And so I just want to say, love God more
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Speaker 1: until next week. Until next time, remember life could be
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Speaker 1: much more simple if you just ask.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in to this week's episode.
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Speaker 2: Social media platforms at the Jessica S. Smith.
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Speaker 6: I know I won't see you back until next week,
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Speaker 6: but until then, remember to love always yourself and always
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Speaker 6: thank thank God for one another day.
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Speaker 3: Hey, I know we be another way. Hey, pray thank
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Speaker 3: God for another day. Hey, Hey, I'm just thankful another day. Hey, hey,
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Speaker 3: another day? Oh, another day wise, another day to get
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Speaker 3: it right, another day to rise up, another day living,
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Speaker 3: another day. We loved ones. I always remember hold it
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