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Careful Who You Talk to · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews. You need to start
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Speaker 1: your day, and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Thursday morning, twenty first day of August. I'm Wes. Thanks
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Speaker 2: for joining me kicking off your day with me. We're
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Speaker 2: a week away from Dragon Con officially getting underway in
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Speaker 2: downtown Atlanta in the five at four star hotels that
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Speaker 2: host the convention and America's mart I spend a lot
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Speaker 2: of my time in either the Hyatt or the Marriotte.
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Speaker 2: There are three other hotels there that are part of
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Speaker 2: the convention, and it depends on what your special interests
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Speaker 2: are for the convention and what you're most looking to
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Speaker 2: get out of the convention. I do interviews which take
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Speaker 2: mostly take place in one of the two aforementioned hotels.
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Speaker 2: Inside the Marriott. That's where the Walk of Fame is.
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Speaker 2: There's also gaming that takes place. There is a lot
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Speaker 2: of live music. I don't know that I have really
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Speaker 2: stressed enough how many live acts will be performing there,
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Speaker 2: and it's something that's been a part of the show
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Speaker 2: for a very long time. I have dabbled in and
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Speaker 2: out of some of the concerts over the years. I've
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Speaker 2: had friends who have performed new and old. I mean
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Speaker 2: the year that I interviewed Tom Kenny aka SpongeBob, he
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Speaker 2: was there with his band performing, and of course I
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Speaker 2: had to go check them out, and actually was sang
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Speaker 2: right along with him in one of his songs. That
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Speaker 2: was fun. But live music is a big part of it.
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Speaker 2: And if you are into science, or you were into
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Speaker 2: like being a skeptic, there's that Those are both fandoms
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Speaker 2: that are represented. Skeptics, science and all the other stuff
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Speaker 2: you would expect from a convention like dragon Con. And
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Speaker 2: maybe you're into a ghost The ghost Hunters will be
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Speaker 2: back this year. They used to come all the time.
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Speaker 2: Now they're kind of on a cycle where they come
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Speaker 2: some years. They're back this year and you can talk
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Speaker 2: with them, and you can talk to them as a skeptic,
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Speaker 2: you can talk to them as a believer, whatever you
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Speaker 2: want to be. But they will be back this year.
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Speaker 2: So much to do, so much to see. I'm not
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Speaker 2: quoting a smash Mouth song. And certainly this is an
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Speaker 2: all ages event. The later you were there at dragon
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Speaker 2: Con into the late evening hours or parties, sure there
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Speaker 2: might be some things you say, I'm going to keep
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Speaker 2: my kids away from some of the very late night activities,
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Speaker 2: but that's what you would do in life normally. But
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Speaker 2: for the most part, art all day long. There's plenty
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Speaker 2: of things for kids to do, whether it's legos, whether
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Speaker 2: it's gaming, whether it's people watching and cosplaying, whether it's
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Speaker 2: the parade on Saturday. Things get started on Thursday and
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Speaker 2: it runs all the way through Monday. That's the way
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Speaker 2: it works, and it pretty much doesn't. It may slow
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Speaker 2: down a bit, but really there's no official time for
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Speaker 2: things to shut down. There's just something to do all
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Speaker 2: hours of the night. If you're one of those people
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Speaker 2: who likes to play video games until six in the morning, seven,
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Speaker 2: eight in the morning, whatever, there will be people that
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Speaker 2: you can do that with, that is there for you
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Speaker 2: All Right, so I want to talk a little bit
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Speaker 2: today about something we've gone through this phase now when
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Speaker 2: it came to the talks try to bring an end
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Speaker 2: to the Russia Ukraine War. And what we went through
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Speaker 2: with that was a president who was aggressively seeking a
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Speaker 2: peace deal, a president who, unlike our previous president, was
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Speaker 2: active and wanted to get things done. Did a whole
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Speaker 2: show about this earlier this week, and I understand maybe
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Speaker 2: you were a Biden supporter, but let's be honest. You
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Speaker 2: supported Biden. He got into office and didn't really do
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Speaker 2: a lot. There were other people making decisions behind the scenes.
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Speaker 2: At the moment, we have a who is much more active,
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Speaker 2: much more aggressive towards getting things done. This is similar
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Speaker 2: to the first term for Donald Trump. He got into
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Speaker 2: office and said, let's start doing the things that we promised.
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Speaker 2: Let's get him done, something like negotiating the end of
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Speaker 2: a war or two wars. This is not an easy process.
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Speaker 2: This is something that takes time. It takes nuance, it
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Speaker 2: takes strength. There are a number of things it takes
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Speaker 2: to make this happen. And there are a lot of
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Speaker 2: people on the left who were critical that he gave
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Speaker 2: any time to Russia's Vladimir Putin, can't do it, can't
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Speaker 2: give him time, can't give him the spotlight, can't give
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Speaker 2: him the sense of satisfaction that you talked with him.
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Speaker 2: We went through this with the first term. We went
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Speaker 2: through this with other leaders, Kim Jong Owen, remember, we
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Speaker 2: went through that. We went through just a number of
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Speaker 2: phases and periods. If he shouldn't talk to them, he
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Speaker 2: shouldn't acknowledge them, he shouldn't give them a spotlight. And
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Speaker 2: that is kind of part of the playbook on the
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Speaker 2: left in a lot of ways, in so many ways,
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Speaker 2: and if you think about it, it goes right with
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Speaker 2: the playbook of something that I've talked about here a
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Speaker 2: number of times. I go back to my story from
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Speaker 2: twenty one years ago. At the time, I was the
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Speaker 2: program director of a top forty radio station, and as
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Speaker 2: the program director, I was also the music director. Once
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Speaker 2: upon a time, these were all separate titles. You'd be
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Speaker 2: the program director, there'd be a music director, there'd be
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Speaker 2: an assistant program director, there'd be a promotions director. There
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Speaker 2: were all these different titles and imaging director. Of course,
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Speaker 2: as time went on, all those jobs kind of got,
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Speaker 2: you know, blobbed together and eventually you just had like
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Speaker 2: one person running eight radio stations, and then now there's just,
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Speaker 2: you know, one person running a corporate chain of radio
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Speaker 2: stations by the format. But back then I was responsible
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Speaker 2: for picking every song that played on the station. That
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Speaker 2: was one of my jobs, one of the hats that
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Speaker 2: I wore because I was the program director and the
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Speaker 2: music director. That was my responsibility. And I would have
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Speaker 2: a regular what we call music call each week with
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Speaker 2: one of the trade websites, Slash magazines, and they would
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Speaker 2: contact me and say, hey, what are you thinking of
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Speaker 2: adding this week? What is the music that's on your radar?
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Speaker 2: What are the things you like, what are the things
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Speaker 2: you don't like? What are you getting ready to get
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Speaker 2: rid of? It was just the process that you went
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Speaker 2: through as a program director. Those calls for them now
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Speaker 2: would be easy, You just call like two guys or
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Speaker 2: gals and that's it. Back then, they had to make
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Speaker 2: numerous calls. And this particular person at this company called
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Speaker 2: me weekly and on one week in particular, getting close
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Speaker 2: to the two thousand and four election, then President Bush
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Speaker 2: running for reelection and running against John Kerry, and this
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Speaker 2: guy who lived in California would call and he said, hey, look,
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to talk to you about how I'm
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Speaker 2: sure you're a John Kerrey supporter. And I said, I
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Speaker 2: don't know what are you talking about. Why would why
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Speaker 2: would I be a John Kerry supporter? And you got
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Speaker 2: a little put off and he said, well, you know
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Speaker 2: you really should vote for him. Would you just do
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Speaker 2: that for me? It's a weird request. And I said,
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Speaker 2: I'll make a deal with you. I'm in Georgia. A
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Speaker 2: John Kerry vote for me won't mean anything any more
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Speaker 2: than a George W. Bush vote by you in California.
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Speaker 2: Let's let's trade him off. I was kidding, but you
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Speaker 2: know I told him, Hey, if you want to swap
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Speaker 2: one off, I'll swap one off with you and we'll
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Speaker 2: we'll just prove my point that it's a drap in
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Speaker 2: a bucket. Now. Remember this was four This was not
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Speaker 2: a time when there was any inkling of Georgia being
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Speaker 2: slightly purple. And he got really put off. No, No,
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Speaker 2: I can't do that. There's no way we can do that.
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Speaker 2: We can't. We can't even be friends anymore if you're
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Speaker 2: not going to vote for John Kerry. It was a
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Speaker 2: weird thing. The first time that I had seen that
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Speaker 2: the first time i'd experienced it, and it's grown so much.
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Speaker 2: We have this thing where people just want to bicker
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Speaker 2: and fight and not like each other, not support each other.
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Speaker 2: They can't they you know, families broken up. But this
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Speaker 2: seems to almost always And I understand there'd be some
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Speaker 2: situations where it might go right to left, but this
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Speaker 2: usually goes left to right. This is people on the
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Speaker 2: left saying, I don't want to have anything to do
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Speaker 2: with you. They don't want you talking to people that
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Speaker 2: they disagree with, they don't want you associating with them.
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Speaker 2: It's very cult like and this sort of fits in.
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Speaker 2: And I'm not equating the president talking with Vladimir Putin as,
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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, that he's going to be wooed by
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Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin. It's not that, but it's this constant like,
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Speaker 2: you can't associate with anyone, you can't have any sort
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Speaker 2: of contact with them. Now, their reason for with Putin
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Speaker 2: is very different. But I want to give another example,
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Speaker 2: because this has come up a few times with now
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Speaker 2: that we're getting a few more people in Hollywood starting
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Speaker 2: to at least consider some of the things on the right,
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Speaker 2: and you've got someone in particular in uh Bill Maher,
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Speaker 2: who has started to you know, say some things that
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Speaker 2: you know, basically the common sense line that I've been
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Speaker 2: begging for common sense in our politics for a while,
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Speaker 2: and he's starting to say that it has been for
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Speaker 2: a little while now and has been sort of pointing
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Speaker 2: out some of these things. And he went and he
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Speaker 2: met with Trump, had a dinner at the White House
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Speaker 2: with Kid and smothers, and he took a lot of
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Speaker 2: flak for it. And he does a podcast where he's
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Speaker 2: it's not politically driven. Sometimes it comes up in the show.
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Speaker 2: But there was an episode and I just watched a
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Speaker 2: couple of clips from it recently, and this is why
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Speaker 2: this is on my mind. That and this whole you know,
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Speaker 2: you're not allowed to talk to anybody. You can't talk
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Speaker 2: to any other people that it might give the impression
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Speaker 2: you're giving them any sort of credence or validity. Because
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Speaker 2: in one episode, and this was from a long long
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Speaker 2: time back, when he actually did the did the did
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Speaker 2: the dinner and it was Sean Penn, and Sean Penn
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Speaker 2: was critical of this conversation that Bill Maher had with
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Speaker 2: Trump over dinner, and he said, you know, I understand
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Speaker 2: that you did it because he's the president, but I
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Speaker 2: wish that you had held back some of the things
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Speaker 2: that you said about your conversation with him, basicallyuggesting that
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Speaker 2: he shouldn't be honest about his experience with him, that
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Speaker 2: he needed to hold it in, hold it back, and
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Speaker 2: just give sort of the narrative that was expected of
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Speaker 2: him by the left. And that's very telling. And Bill
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Speaker 2: Maher asked him a little bit about but you've met
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Speaker 2: with people like Hugo Chavez, and because Sean Penn was saying,
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Speaker 2: I couldn't have met with Trump. I can't do that
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Speaker 2: because I don't want to give him that credence. I
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Speaker 2: don't want to give him that credibility or whatever it
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Speaker 2: is that he's saying. He needs to hold back. And
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Speaker 2: he's saying that he felt like it was too easy
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Speaker 2: to be duped. You know, how do you know that
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Speaker 2: you weren't duped by Trump? And I guess my question.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he said he got a lot out of
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Speaker 2: his meetings with Hugo Chavez and some other crazy dictators.
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Speaker 2: I guess my question is, how does he know he
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Speaker 2: wasn't duped? Isn't it fascinating that we think that an
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Speaker 2: elected president of the United States by the American people
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Speaker 2: doesn't deserve our time, doesn't deserve the time to sit
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Speaker 2: down and talk with him, don't go meet with him
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Speaker 2: at the White House. And we're talking about a president
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Speaker 2: who was elected not and you don't win by the
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Speaker 2: popular vote, but he won the popular vote, and then
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Speaker 2: of course the electoral College and he wins, and people
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Speaker 2: don't want to acknowledge him as the real president. Now,
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's really what Sean Penn was saying,
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Speaker 2: but in a way he's sort of being dismissive of
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Speaker 2: that by saying, if I were invited, I couldn't go.
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Speaker 2: But I'm comfortable meeting with dictators, people that aren't democratically elected,
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Speaker 2: people that don't win a popular vote, people that don't
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Speaker 2: went like you just go and you meet with someone
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Speaker 2: who is a dictator, an oppressive dictator in a country,
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Speaker 2: and you say that was some constructive things that came
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Speaker 2: from that. Now, let's be honest. If Sean Penn were
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Speaker 2: to meet with Vladimir Putin, or if Biden had met
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Speaker 2: with Vladimir Putin to try to end that war, they
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Speaker 2: would be they'd be praised for it. Trump goes and
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Speaker 2: meets with Putin for the purposes of ending the war,
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Speaker 2: saving lives, and putting that war to bed. That was
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Speaker 2: the objective of the meeting. There were the other things
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Speaker 2: we talked about earlier in the week, the flexes, the hey,
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Speaker 2: we're going to do this in Alaska. There's some history there,
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Speaker 2: We're going to do this. You know with the bomber
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Speaker 2: going overhead, that was a definite flex. That was the
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Speaker 2: you know, Wholkomania style rip your shirt off in flex.
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Speaker 2: That's what that was. So there's the theatrics, there's the
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Speaker 2: things that go with it. But to say that meeting
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Speaker 2: with Putin as Donald Trump isn't constructive, isn't positive, and
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Speaker 2: it's doing anything other than potentially doing anything other than
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Speaker 2: just giving him, like providing oxygen to the fire for Putin,
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Speaker 2: and saying that someone like Sean Penn is capable of
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Speaker 2: going and meeting with dictators, oppressive dictators, people that aren't
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Speaker 2: democratically elected oppressive dictators and able to find some positive
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Speaker 2: common ground and things to work with. Now you can
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Speaker 2: get into the reasons for that because you can say, well,
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Speaker 2: we know, we know what Sean Penn and you know
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Speaker 2: Chavez have in common. We can find some common commonality. Right,
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Speaker 2: we can dip into the socialism communism world and go, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I can see where that is. I can see where
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Speaker 2: they might get along on certain things. But to say
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Speaker 2: that the President of the United States shouldn't meet with Vladimir
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Speaker 2: Putin to try to in the war, to say that
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Speaker 2: you wouldn't go to the White House and sit down
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Speaker 2: with Donald Trump, but you would go sit down and
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Speaker 2: meet with a dictator, a communist dictator in a country,
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Speaker 2: a socialist dictator, and anybody who's not duly elected in
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Speaker 2: any way and find some common ground had some positivity
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Speaker 2: in it. It's really hypocritical. It's really hypocritical, and it's
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Speaker 2: such an absurd concept. Of course, he's going to try
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Speaker 2: to meet with Vladimir Putin to end the war. Of
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Speaker 2: course he did that because Trump from the very beginning
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Speaker 2: the break, Well, there's a number of companies that are
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Speaker 2: And I don't know, maybe the social interaction you need
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Speaker 2: to one day, I don't know, maybe find a spouse.
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Speaker 2: I mean they are already making AI powered girlfriends. That's
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Speaker 2: that would have an effect on life in general. I'm
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Speaker 2: assuming that the goal would not be to send mice
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Speaker 2: and fruitflies to Mars. I don't think that would be
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Speaker 2: I don't think that would be a good idea.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: Many men are traveling the world shelling out tens of
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Speaker 2: thousands of dollars to have their legs broken and surgically lengthened.
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Speaker 2: The brutal procedure, which is offered at places like Want
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Speaker 2: to Be Taller Clinic in its Istanbul, Turkey, involves months
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Speaker 2: of pain rehab metal rods. Almost all the men who
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Speaker 2: endure it say that gaining a few inches is worth
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Speaker 2: the agony, especially since it improves their dating life, self esteem,
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Speaker 2: even their mental health. There's been a story around town
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Speaker 2: for years that someone did this very procedure. I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to say who. You probably know who it is,
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Speaker 2: maybe you don't. I don't know. You're not getting it
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Speaker 2: from me, but I've heard stories. I don't know if
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Speaker 2: it's true or not, but I can see where that
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Speaker 2: boosting confidence would be there. I mean it would be,
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Speaker 2: you know, like some other augmentations that people do for confidence.
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Speaker 2: There's a new workplace trend making waves and it's not
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Speaker 2: loud or obvious. It's called quiet cracking, with HR experts
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Speaker 2: describing as employees who will show up, still perform, but
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Speaker 2: feel increasingly stuck, undervalued, and unsure about their future. It's
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Speaker 2: not the same thing as quiet quitting, though, which leads
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Speaker 2: to employees slacking off. This is about silently burning out
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Speaker 2: while doing work that you once enjoyed. It seems to
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Speaker 2: be a real thing, as a survey found twenty percent,
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Speaker 2: but workers experience this frequently in thirty four percent, so
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Speaker 2: they felt feel it a casely it will likely continue
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Speaker 2: as employees are willing to spin their wheels to do
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Speaker 2: their jobs that they don't love because they fear that
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Speaker 2: finding a new job will be too difficult. And they
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Speaker 2: say that starting a new job entering on the ground
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Speaker 2: floor is becoming harder because of AI. And who knows,
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Speaker 2: maybe those AI teddy bears could also start taking jobs.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Campbell's Chunky Soup has partnered with PBR
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Speaker 2: yet perhaps Blue Ribbon for two new beer infused soups
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Speaker 2: with football season kicking off soon. The new flavors beer
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Speaker 2: tailgating in mind. Keep your eyes open. They'll only be
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Speaker 2: for some new soups. And which NFL player will be
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Speaker 2: hawking those soups. That's another good question for you, So
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Speaker 2: all right, In case you missed it, About a week ago,
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Speaker 2: a zoo in Denmark made ways for asking pet owners
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Speaker 2: to donate their aging animals to be fed to lines
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Speaker 2: and tigers. Many were appalled by the request. At least
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Speaker 2: one woman stepped up and has donated her daughter's pony.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Pernil Soul says that she donated her thirteen year old
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Speaker 2: daughter's German riding pony to the zoo and has no regret.
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Speaker 2: She says it might sound very dramatic and bizarre that
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Speaker 2: you would feed your pet to animals at the zoo,
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Speaker 2: given to the predators. She adds that the pony was
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