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4-09-26 Hour 1 - Nitpicking Nuggets Win?/The Rockies are .500!/NBA's anti-tanking solutions are stupid · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Kine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: Coward goes down the lane. You're all step way up.
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  Speaker 3: God, we're two fifty two, half a point difference. But
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  Speaker 3: I think Denver's gonna bury the shot clock here now
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna run a play. Pickett has it? Somebody lost
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  Speaker 3: a shoe? Pickett cross court to Holmes for the overs.
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  Speaker 2: Got it, oh man? Overs?
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  Speaker 3: People pump with their fists, unders, people throwing puer cans
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  Speaker 3: at TVs. All right, folks, we've done this now.
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  Speaker 2: Four games in a row, let's run it back.
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  Speaker 4: One two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine in
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  Speaker 4: a row for the Denver Nuggets, the longest winning streak
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  Speaker 4: for Jokich Murray Era and the longest streak for Denver
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  Speaker 4: in thirteen years.
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  Speaker 3: Final Tonight from Denver Nuggets one thirty six, Memphis one nineteen.
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  Speaker 5: Look he's back today, Mush, He's back. The executioner is
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  Speaker 5: back today. The man who feels like he is he
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  Speaker 5: is a ruler of all things in the world.
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  Speaker 2: I have solved the judicial system.
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  Speaker 5: By walking out of the courthouse.
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  Speaker 2: That's all you did. I walked in. I went do
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  Speaker 2: it like this and fixed it.
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  Speaker 5: Walk in.
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  Speaker 2: Here.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're good, you're good. Go ahead, walk in, walk off,
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  Speaker 5: walk in, walk in off, walk off, walk in, walk off.
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  Speaker 6: Hey do you know that Denver has not only the
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  Speaker 6: hottest team in the NBA, but the hottest team in
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  Speaker 6: the MLB?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Dude, you know, I give you two minutes of rockies.
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  Speaker 5: We're up in that number. Now we're getting more.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll table.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what to do, guys. I was pissed
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  Speaker 5: off at half and then they did that, and I'm
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  Speaker 5: just like, you know what, maybe they just they just
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  Speaker 5: mess around. They're just waiting for the playoffs. I've just decided, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: this is a choice I'm making.
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  Speaker 2: They're just waiting for the playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm not going to judge any first quarters in
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  Speaker 5: second quarters anymore. It's just how they finished the game.
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  Speaker 5: They finished the game win easy. I don't know what Vic,
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  Speaker 5: you're doing the pre and post game, at halftime, you're
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  Speaker 5: doing halftime.
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  Speaker 2: What'd you say at halftime they're gonna win.
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  Speaker 6: I looked at Dempselm, like, when when do you think
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  Speaker 6: it happens when you think the switch is flipped. What
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  Speaker 6: early third, late third, early fourth. At least they went
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  Speaker 6: with early third this time. At least they didn't make
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  Speaker 6: it make us all sweat it out. They decided when
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  Speaker 6: they were down eight early in the third, and I
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  Speaker 6: think it was Aaron Gordon who decided it. He started
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  Speaker 6: playing bully ball until he got mad. He looked at
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  Speaker 6: his teammates and said, all right, is he okay? I
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  Speaker 6: don't know, I don't know. I didn't like any grimacing there,
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  Speaker 6: but nobody likes to see him grimace.
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  Speaker 5: We were trying to find audio of David Adaman after
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  Speaker 5: the game talking about it was he asked.
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  Speaker 6: About ag after the game, Well, if you're talking about
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  Speaker 6: that one incident at the end of the half, he
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  Speaker 6: was he was hitting the jewels there, okay, but you
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  Speaker 6: know they were working on his back a little bit. Listen,
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  Speaker 6: that's not gonna go away. That issue, the god is
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  Speaker 6: the okay issue? Is he gonna be able to play?
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  Speaker 2: Issue? Can he continue? Issue?
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  Speaker 6: That's that's gonna be a part of his playoff run.
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  Speaker 2: The Nuggets are only.
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  Speaker 6: Gonna go as far as Age's health will allow them
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  Speaker 6: to go.
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  Speaker 2: Here, are you done?
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  Speaker 5: Taking pictures of your own laptop.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get a QR code.
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  Speaker 5: You can just talk about your little oop game, participate
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  Speaker 5: in our program on a radio show.
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  Speaker 7: I told you yesterday I will physically be here. Mentally,
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  Speaker 7: you can kiss my behind.
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  Speaker 2: Alright, well, then turn his camera off.
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  Speaker 6: But mos mosch, listen, go to jury duty.
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  Speaker 2: Look at what I got it on right here.
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  Speaker 5: I got my my master's up and run in two,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm also participating in the show.
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  Speaker 7: I didn let me jump in and give you my
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  Speaker 7: version of Nuggets past. I don't watch your version now
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  Speaker 7: you work on your little scan bar. Yeah, but but
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  Speaker 7: I have I have a version of Nuggets basketball, which
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  Speaker 7: is Nelly hit it. That first half last night it
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  Speaker 7: felt like Harlem Globetrotters man Jamal Dude. He's racing down
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  Speaker 7: the sideline and he throws up this sideways triple and
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  Speaker 7: it splashes and he's falling into the crowd, and you
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  Speaker 7: got Curtly Neil out there doing it like there's no deed,
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  Speaker 7: there's no nothing. Everybody's just trying everything. Hey, look watch
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  Speaker 7: this what behind the head? Hey let me throw it
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  Speaker 7: up from half court backwards.
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  Speaker 2: So fin and then but Vic's right.
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  Speaker 7: Then finally I saw him and Dipson halftime, and finally
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  Speaker 7: it's like, enough of this crap. Let's just go in
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  Speaker 7: this stupid basketball game. Because those guys are hoisting they
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  Speaker 7: were three they try hope.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to me.
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  Speaker 7: The Memphis Grizzlies attempted twenty seven to three pointers in
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  Speaker 7: the first half, attempted.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know it's insane. At the core of this,
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  Speaker 2: it's pretty simple.
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  Speaker 6: We talked about it, and actually I thought after the game,
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  Speaker 6: Jamal Murray had the best thing to say. He said,
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  Speaker 6: you know, teams like this, they come in and they
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  Speaker 6: start playing pickup basketball because that's their only chance. It's
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  Speaker 6: the only way they can win. They're playing pickup basketball.
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  Speaker 6: They're hoisting threes, they're taking crazy shots. It's like an
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  Speaker 6: and one game. And what it does is it sort
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  Speaker 6: of goed you into playing that style until that third
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  Speaker 6: quarter point where the I said, all right, forget this,
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  Speaker 6: because even Jamal said, if we wanted to, you could
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  Speaker 6: just give it to Joker every time, have a move
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  Speaker 6: around in the key, and you'd win the game that way.
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  Speaker 2: But you want to keep.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody active, you want to keep everybody shooting, You want
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  Speaker 6: to sort of play team basketball. They know they're going
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  Speaker 6: to win that game. But this is what that kind
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  Speaker 6: of opposition does. This is what the NBA now late
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  Speaker 6: in the season, when teams are actively tanking. When a
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  Speaker 6: team like that last night left eleven players at home, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: not one or two, not three or four, not five
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  Speaker 6: or six. They left their top eleven players at home,
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  Speaker 6: and they came to Denver with some dudes I've never
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  Speaker 6: heard of, and they're hoisting shots, they're playing pickup.
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  Speaker 2: It is an.
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  Speaker 6: Atrocity to the game. They junked up the game. And
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  Speaker 6: I don't know who to blame on this. Whose fault
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  Speaker 6: is this? Whose fault is that all these.
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  Speaker 2: Teams are doing the same thing. It's not just Memphis.
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  Speaker 2: Can't blame Memphis.
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  Speaker 6: All these teams are junking up the game, especially those
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  Speaker 6: that don't care to win, and it's making for some
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  Speaker 6: horrendous basketball down the stretch.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know the famous line we always say on
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  Speaker 5: the show, which is the NBA, that that wasn't an
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  Speaker 5: NBA game last night. That was one NBA team playing
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  Speaker 5: against a G League team and the G league team
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  Speaker 5: was leading a halftime. It's the NBA, I mean, and
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  Speaker 5: that sorry, it annoyed me. I'm fine, It's oh, I'm
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  Speaker 5: over it. Because they do have some sort of flip.
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  Speaker 5: They can switch and just turn it on and then
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  Speaker 5: all of a sudden play defense flip.
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  Speaker 2: They can switch. I like that. What do you mean
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  Speaker 2: a switch?
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  Speaker 5: They can flip the switch switch, they can flip flip,
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  Speaker 5: they can switch which the flip flip I gotta flip
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  Speaker 5: for you. You want to see, it's right down here for
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  Speaker 5: you motion.
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  Speaker 2: While you're done there would your mind.
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  Speaker 5: The point is they just I think they're messing around
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  Speaker 5: until the playoffs. And guess what these next two games,
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  Speaker 5: these final two games, I don't think are gonna be
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  Speaker 5: much different because okay, see just clinched the one last night.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it depends on what they want, you know that,
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  Speaker 6: ok san Antonio can both manipulate these games to their liking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if things are.
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  Speaker 6: Close, winning or losing against the Nuggets can send the
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  Speaker 6: Nuggets to the opposite side of each of these teams brackets,
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  Speaker 6: depending on what else happens. Like if OKC says, huh, should.
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  Speaker 2: We lose to the Nuggets?
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  Speaker 6: Should we really lose to the Nuggets and let them
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  Speaker 6: go through san Antonio.
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  Speaker 2: They'd prefer that. Who knows, I don't know. Maybe they
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  Speaker 2: want san Antonio. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 5: It'd still be really hard to do it, because even
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  Speaker 5: if the Nuggets lose their last two games, Houston is
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  Speaker 5: a game and a half back right now they play tonight.
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  Speaker 5: Lakers are a game and a half back right now.
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  Speaker 5: But you on the tiebreaker over the Rockets, like it's
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  Speaker 5: still it feels like if the Nuggets don't get the
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  Speaker 5: three seed, then they're gonna have to do something pretty
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  Speaker 5: terrible down the stretching.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it feels like if the Nuggets win, one of
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  Speaker 6: these last two free seed is theirs. But again, I
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  Speaker 6: go back to forget the game last night. I want
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  Speaker 6: everybody to remember that that is not real basketball. And
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  Speaker 6: I know no one's going to admit it, and I
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  Speaker 6: know that people speaking to microphones and say, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 6: we played hard, we did our due diligence, but that
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  Speaker 6: was not serious. Memphis did not come to play serious basketball.
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  Speaker 6: They came to jack up threes and get their young
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  Speaker 6: guys some run. And at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 6: they wanted to lose the game, and they got what
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  Speaker 6: they wanted.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know how you fix it. It's disgusting.
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  Speaker 5: I think I saw one guy at one point get
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  Speaker 5: a cross mid court, turn around to hike it toward
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  Speaker 5: the dude, it's still he hiked it toward the like
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  Speaker 5: long snapped it toward the hoop?
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  Speaker 2: Am I being am I over overplaying this? No, I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you right now, silly. You know what I realized.
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  Speaker 5: I was watching the game last night and it was
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  Speaker 5: in the second half, and I just realized that the
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  Speaker 5: game was on. But I hadn't been watching the game
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  Speaker 5: for about ten minutes because and I don't think that's
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  Speaker 5: an indictment on me. I was thoroughly bored watching the
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  Speaker 5: Nuggets play a whole bunch of guys I've never heard
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  Speaker 5: of before, with a team that has no interest in
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  Speaker 5: trying to actually win the game. You know what I
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  Speaker 5: did for the I was bored for the first vic,
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  Speaker 5: for the first half and into the third quarter. You
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  Speaker 5: know what I did while I was watching the Nuggets.
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  Speaker 5: I played scrabble with my wife and got my ass
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  Speaker 5: kicked again.
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  Speaker 2: It's because you're stupid, it is.
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  Speaker 7: You know what, I guarantee, I challenge you. Here's the
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  Speaker 7: thing about this, and this is what's pissing me off.
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  Speaker 7: She gets to a point where she's got a lead,
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  Speaker 7: and then she's not trying to make kill her words anymore.
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  Speaker 7: She's trying to block me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that. Just play your game. I
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  Speaker 2: don't get into the well.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna even remotely let him get to a
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  Speaker 7: triple award score.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you be playing that game? That's ridiculous.
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: Just watch d Maak and RAJ pop up on nine
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  Speaker 5: News twice in the span of twenty minutes. Guy, Now,
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  Speaker 5: they aren't that interesting. Relax night or I trust me.
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  Speaker 5: I talked to him all the time too. Anyway, the Nuggets,
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  Speaker 5: Now here's what's funny. You know what's really funny about
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  Speaker 5: how this season has gone.
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  Speaker 2: Think, what's the word you've used for this year? Laborious?
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  Speaker 5: Did you know if the Nuggets do win these final
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  Speaker 5: two games, let's say that, okay, see and the Spurs
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  Speaker 5: rest there, Guys, let's say they don't. Just they win
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  Speaker 5: their their final two, they will finish this season with
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  Speaker 5: a better record than the year they won the title.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and do you know if they win at San
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  Speaker 6: Antonio in the finale, they will set the franchise record.
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  Speaker 2: For most road wins.
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  Speaker 6: And did you know that last night obviously the first
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  Speaker 6: ten game win streak of the Joker era, and also
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  Speaker 6: Jokers numbers. During this streak, he has seven triple doubles
• 11:53
  Speaker 6: during this ten game streak. There have been, according to
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  Speaker 6: OPTA Stats over they come up with this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: One point four million total ten game.
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  Speaker 6: Streaks in NBA history, including the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: It's happened won win.
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  Speaker 6: What there's game spans spans, I'm sorry, not streaks spans
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  Speaker 6: ten games have spanned.
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  Speaker 2: Ten games have spanned.
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  Speaker 5: So so players who have played a ten game span.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly, not streak, same same type of word, but not
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  Speaker 6: win streak a span of ten games, win or lose
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  Speaker 6: ten games in a row.
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  Speaker 5: This is a VIC versus stats smallsy Okay, I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 6: It in none of those players, in none of those
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  Speaker 6: spans of ten games, did a player have as many points, rebounds,
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  Speaker 6: and assists as Nikola Jokicz just did during this ten
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  Speaker 6: game span.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, I'm so much more confused than I was about
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  Speaker 7: a minute and a half ago.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Nell, could you shut him off for one second?
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  Speaker 2: Let me let me play VIC right. I up.
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  Speaker 8: The stats email came to me and it says in
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  Speaker 8: the history of the NBA. There have been ten games
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  Speaker 8: segments of what point three billion h jigawatts that player
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  Speaker 8: has assists to the blue Moon ratio?
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  Speaker 7: As what did you understand any of that crap?
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  Speaker 2: Not really?
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  Speaker 6: No, Look here's here I think is a VIC stat.
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  Speaker 2: He's scored in a row.
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  Speaker 5: He's scored a lot of points, rebounds and assists over
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  Speaker 5: the last ten games.
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  Speaker 2: That's what Vic's trying to tell you. How many times
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  Speaker 2: have ten games played?
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  Speaker 7: Just say, you know what in his last ten games
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  Speaker 7: he's kicked ass like well, nobody's ever kicked ass.
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  Speaker 6: That's that's why it's that's why it's it's part of
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  Speaker 6: the equation here.
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  Speaker 2: He does it.
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  Speaker 6: He makes it look like every day at the office.
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  Speaker 6: It's not, you know, like a big deal. He does
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  Speaker 6: this all the time.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, at the Masters today, Ola Thapple's two
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  Speaker 5: under through four, Amnel Cabrera is one under through three.
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  Speaker 5: Max Homes even through five. Uh, some of the bigger
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  Speaker 5: names still to come around. Eight o'clock is where a
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  Speaker 5: lot of the big game start to come around. Now,
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  Speaker 5: Bubba Watson is going to tee off in a second game.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I'm over bubb Later, bub when he
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  Speaker 7: first won the Masters. I was pulling for him pretty
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  Speaker 7: good because he was It was kind of a good story.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm over Ben. He's a jack wagon. That being said, having.
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  Speaker 7: Been to Spain, now, the serious nature with which the
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  Speaker 7: Spanish and there's z's to be th h's is pretty intense.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like they have speech impediments.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but I learned it firsthand. I'm like, oh, wow,
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  Speaker 7: they're serious about this crap. I mean, they're serious about
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  Speaker 7: turning their z's into th h's.
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  Speaker 2: Bro Vic. They don't. They don't mess around with their
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  Speaker 2: z's over there.
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  Speaker 5: Their s's are also like a sound.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's what the thud? They got thuzz all over
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  Speaker 2: the place.
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  Speaker 6: See you, Dodd sounds like you have a speech impediment.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, there is no ticket Thursday at the phone.
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  Speaker 2: That's because that's I know, I get it. It was a.
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  Speaker 5: Nice little inside joke to people listen to the program
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  Speaker 5: for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, no ticket Thursday today, but that's because we were
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: waiting for playoff ticket Thursdays to come soon.
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  Speaker 2: So is good news for that.
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  Speaker 5: Now, Hey, guys, we want to talk about some five
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  Speaker 5: hundred baseball because I do really, we'll get to it next.
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: Hand of the back, but hunters so Straw did he
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  Speaker 6: get at you back?
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  Speaker 2: Second of the year for Goodman? They get seven.
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  Speaker 6: To one Colorado.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: Hunter Goodman his second home run of the year yesterday.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: As the Rockies have now won four consecutive games, they
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  Speaker 5: complete the sweep of the Houston Astros and they're a
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: five hundred ball club six and six to start the year.
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  Speaker 5: Just for a reference, last season, Vic it took thirty
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  Speaker 5: games for them to win five. It is taking them
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  Speaker 5: twelve to win six now this year, and they started
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  Speaker 5: the year zero to three getting swept by the Marlins.
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  Speaker 6: So they're six and three in the last nine games.
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  Speaker 6: Record aside, they're fun, Yes, it's fun. I love the
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  Speaker 6: Purple Code. I love all the stuff that goes in.
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  Speaker 6: I love the bunting, the stealing. It's fun to watch.
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  Speaker 5: So can I give you just a couple of minutes
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  Speaker 5: here to nerd out for a second. And I think
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  Speaker 5: it's an example of the Rockies doing something different that's
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  Speaker 5: helping them, because I've lived through this before. When you
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: get teams that are really adept at stealing bases, as
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  Speaker 5: the Rockies are this year, how many they have yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: You know, mos four of them. They had four stolen
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  Speaker 2: bases yesterday.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: Yes, it leads to other things. When you can steal
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: bases and you take the pitcher's attention from the hitter
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: to the guy on first base, it makes them less
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: effective at the plate because they aren't fully focused with
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: the guy at the plate. And it can lead to
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: two things. One you're leaving a pitch up in the
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: zone and that thing getting hammered for a homer or two.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: And what I noticed in the game yesterday, how many
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: times the Rockies walked yesterday?
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: Nine times?
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: You want to know why because the pitcher was too
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: focused on people on base to be solely focused on
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: the thing happening at the plate. You lose your control
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: when you don't have your full focus, attentive, attentive home plate.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: And that's what happens when this team is out there.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: And think about this, the Rockies, they're capable of striking
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: out a lot. They're better this year than they are
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: in years past. They had seven strikeouts in that game
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: in nine walks. So that's how you beat the snot
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: out of a team by eight runs.
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: The attendance for yesterday's game, it was a day game
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: fifteen thousand plus, the lowest attendance mark in the history
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: of Rockies Baseball.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: What does that mean? I don't know. I saw.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: I've been to games where there's like four thousand people.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: There, tickets sold versus people there.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well whatever.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: I've been to games yeah, where it feels like you
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: can sid wherever you want. I was in a game
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: that was forty five degrees spitting rain. It was miserable,
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: and the Rockies were down eight. There was nobody there
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: and milk it's sold versus people there, and Mildred at
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: the top of at the top of the aisle, right
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: in the concourse.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Ring, waiting to check my ticket.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, Mildred here, it don't don't It don't
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: matter where I bought.
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: There's nobody here, but I'm going I'm going to the dugout, Mildred. Now,
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: people who were tackle me.
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: Mill had tons of fun. And and this goes back
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: to the point I like to make about sports, the
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: rise up. Like when you have a bad team or
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: a mediocre team or a new team and you're making that.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Rise back up.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: That's as much fun as I'm not gonna say, winning
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: the championship. But the elation that comes with it is wonderful.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: When you're stuck in.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: Between, when you're the other way, when you're used to
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: winning and you want to win again and you're not
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: winning at the rate that you hope to, that can be,
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: as I've noted, laborious.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: You know what, Vic, You're so right about that.
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: There's something, there's something really special about the turnaround.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: It's fun. Yeah, let me let me because that's unexpected.
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: Let me go back to Game eighty two against the
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: Saint Louis Blues in two thousand and seventeen.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: You guys recall that, Yeah, is that when they ended
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: up playing.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: Uh no, twenty eighteen, sorry, two thousand and eight Calgary
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: in the first round. No, they played they played Nashville
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: in the first round. That was the guts all over
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: the place. Yet, Okay, but this is where Landeskog is mobbed.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: Remember everybody's mobbed because they beat the Blues. Whoever won
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: the game was in the postseason the rise up, dude,
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: and they had They had come off of forty eight
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: point season, the worst in the league by a mile.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: They make the player the next year.
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: But that mob in the neutral zone vic after they
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: won that game, is it felt as exciting as almost
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: as winning a cup?
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Because I agree your back.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: It's the it's the rise, it's the it's the it's
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: the build, it's the redemption that people love that. So
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: when you see all these idiots and I and I
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: see that, by the way, with pure love, because I
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: would like to be one of them. All the tarps off,
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: guys in the upper deck, you know, fifty guys with
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: their shirts off, helicopter And that's what I was talking
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: about yesterday.
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: What can't we be part of that? They're having a
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: great time. You want to go take your shirt off?
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Is that what you want to do? You can do
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: it right here if you want.
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: No, I said, I want us to go to a
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: game again as a show, and I want our listeners
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: to go with us.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I want us to be one big, happy pack.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: Warren Shaffer was asked if or he was told right
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: to buy their tickets.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: No, they can buy.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: Their own, but we'll all we'll all.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Get together when we get there.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: Rockys fans are excited right now. Here's what Warren Shaffer said.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they should be. They should be excited.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: We're all excited. We love the way these guys are
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: playing right now, it's just a continuation every day.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: We're going to stack these days on top of each other.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: It's a plucky team, right, the plucky nature of a
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: team back on the rise that has drawn interest again.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: It doesn't erase the history. It doesn't erase the past.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: It doesn't erase the struggle. It doesn't erase what happened
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: over the last was it three straight seasons of one
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: hundred losses?
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: It doesn't erase that.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: At the same time, it makes it fun again.
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, one hundred nineteen VIC one hundred nineteen losses. Those
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: a lot of stank.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: When I was younger, when hunting with my uncle and
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: his golden retriever before he went to the blind, that's
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: sprayed by a skunk. And as much as we washed
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: that dog, dude, you know how hard it is to
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: get skunk out of a dog, Well, it's hard to
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: get skank.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Stank.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Sorry, out of one hundred nineteen loss sank.
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: But these idiots whom I love, I'd love to be
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: a part of this idiot pack. They're up there with
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: their tarps offs swinging them around, drinking beers.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: That that's a great thing.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: So hang on a second. I just want to point
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: something out because I want to give you a little
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: bit of a dichotomy here, moj I played you at
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: the clip yesterday, VICKI missed it. Deep a Esta was
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: on with PhD the other day and he said this
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: about finding free agents.
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: You know, we went out and we signed those three
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: free agents starting pitchers this year in the offseason. You know,
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: I got a lot of questions about that. Geez, you
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: Rockies haven't signed a free agent starter in a long time.
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: What'd you do? How'd you convince these guys to come?
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: And I saw him that that's the whole point. We
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: didn't try to convince anybody. We wanted to be self selecting,
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: like who wants this challenge?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Because if you.
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: Want this challenge, then then hey, we're interested. And if
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: you don't, that's probably not a good fit. So you know,
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: guys like Tomosugano and Michael Lorenzen and you know Jose
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: King Tana like they wanted this.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Lorenzo, by the way, good start last night, his first
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: good one of the year.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Right start.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: But here's why I wanted to play that again. There's
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: something about guys wanting to be there in for years
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: you think, well, I'm just saying for years it felt
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: like people who played for the Rockies hated playing for
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: the Rockies. And there's no way you can be successful
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: in that type of environment. It's impossible. And I'll give
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: you an example as to why. Troy Johnston, who's having
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: a great start to this year, he came for the
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Marlins organization.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: He's already my favorite Rocky based on what he said.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: And he said, hey, man, this is a sports town.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: I love it here. I walk downtown, I see people
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: rocking Rockies gear. That never happened to Miami. You couldn't
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: find a Marlins hat anywhere in Miami. So he said that,
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: and I heard some Marlins fans got mad about that.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I guess true. I guess let him and his shows
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: all pissed off. I want to heard it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I want to hear it. It wasn't Levittard. It was
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Greg Cody, another guy in the show. That was some
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: Most of them were saying, he's he's kind of right,
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: well dude on Marlin's hats, But hand, here's the point.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Here's the point.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: He wants to be here, and he gets this shot
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: and he's taking itage of it.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back a year ago.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: There was a guy that was acquired a couple of
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: days before the season started who was thrown into the
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Rockies locker room. Tell me if you remember, remember Jake
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: Cave's first comments upon arriving here, Listen.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: It is what it is.
• 24:15
  Speaker 10: You know, Uh, you know, first reaction is kind of like,
• 24:17
  Speaker 10: you know, it's weird, you know, going to a new
• 24:19
  Speaker 10: team that you don't know or anything like that. But
• 24:21
  Speaker 10: now that I'm here, I feel comfortable. I'm you know,
• 24:23
  Speaker 10: I'm ready to go any any team that's willing to
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: to give me a jersey to play baseball?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Ready go. So is what it is? Yeah, you dropping,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: is what it is.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: And look, Jake Cave ended up being a pretty likable
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: guy if you're a member of the course of that year.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: But still, if that's your first reaction.
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: To showing you I'm unhappy about coming here, promise you
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: that that is something somebody says when they're incarcerated.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Is what it is.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: I'm here, I'm gonna do my time pretty much.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what it felt like. What it is.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: You know, I did the deed, so I'll get out
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: of here a better man. That's exactly what no man, listen,
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: it's a it's a new regime, it's a new team. Uh,
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: they are. The best word I could use is plucky.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: It's fun to wat if they can continue like this.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: And the beautiful thing about the rise when you hit
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: the rock bottom excuse the pun is that you don't
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: have expectations of how playoffs aren't even an expectation.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: The expectation is just competing.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: And providing a fun product where every once in a
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: while you do what you did this week, you win
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: three in a row. The last time the Rockies were
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: five hundred at least twelve games into the season was
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: May fifteenth of twenty twenty two, where they started seventeen
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: and seventeen. At that point, the Avs knocked out in
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: Nashville and went on to win their first or the
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: last Stanley Cup, and the Nuggets had not won a
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: championship yet.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: So it's been a while. It's been a while. Would
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: you indulge me for a second? Sure, As I said before, Vick,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: Know how many games into the season we were. We
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: just talked about it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: You were gone.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: One of the most famous clips in the history of
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: this program that was the COVID year.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: Though things are all different. I remember saying that in
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: the middle of June. You can write this down, help
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: record this.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: That was different. There's more to it. There's more to it, Nelly.
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: So part of me and a great part of me,
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: it's fun to talk about boys we like, right and hey, man,
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: but Tovar is my guy, and you know this guy.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: This is Vic's guy now, and you got.
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: Your guy and Nelly and everybody you know, the tarp's
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: off boys all it's all good.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: But this is Yeah, here's the folk clip. So now
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: this team is too good. I think it's it's it's.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Too disciplined in too many departments to fall apart. And
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: and you can write this down, help record this. I
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: don't think this is a fluke. I think the Rockies
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: and I said this a week ago. I think the
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: Rockies are playoff bound. I think your Colorado Rockies are
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: going to be playing for something in October. Yeah, they
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: finished dead last. Okay, so part of me Vic is
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: still got Lee.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Man. That's that's called premature masculation. Okay, premature something get me.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: Part of me wants to get to June, June one
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: and let's see where they are and then I can
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: start to really invest.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: But hang on hand, that was an early ejection right there.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: There is nothing wrong with enjoying this at the beginning
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: of year.
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: I great apologize to Mark Moser because I'm having a
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: good time watching the Rockies.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Great sorry, Mark. We are dude as fun. If this
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: was a marathon and the baseball season is, I don't care.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: We're not even We're not even the first cup of water.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: Yet all of you say, slow down, Vic, I.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Slowed up for what? What? What? What do you mean
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: to slow it down for?
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: Heaven't the guys wearing a purple code after hitting a
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: home run.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I'm loving it. It's great. Slow down. What I can't love?
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: You don't want me to.
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: You only started loving your significant other later in your relationship.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: You didn't do it early.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: It seem's fun, That's all you gotta know. Like, I
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: don't know what they're gonna be in June. Maybe they'll
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: be five hundred, maybe they'll be twenty games below five hundred.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I have no idea, but I'll tell you what, Ben,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I'll just totally buy in.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: And then when they're nine under on June first, Okay,
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: just rip my heart out and stomp all over it.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: Go ahead, but what are your expectations?
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's stupid. Now you're being stupid.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: My expectations aren't to suddenly threaten the Dodgers.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Just give me a competent product.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what will said this on the text line.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Runfield went from down two to a walk in a
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: ten pitch at bat last night. That hasn't happened in years.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: He's done that a couple times this year. I'm tony.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: That guy's plate discipline.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: Were you were dead on when you described him as
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: a player man. He is very, very protective of the plate,
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: very decisive.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Let's bet on the ball.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he knows what he's doing out there by
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: the way, watching Jose Maria Olathabo trying to attack the
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: pin on number six. They get that pin back to
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: the right, and television doesn't do it justice. As you
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: well know, Fellas, you got to put it back there.
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: Otherwise that green is not gonna hold it.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: It'll roll all the way. Let's just do it.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Let's just do our first of these.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Come on, it's time for a master's minute. Get it
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: all out of your system. Boys sixty seconds on the clock.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Your time starts.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Now give me your Masters. I head VIC, good do
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: it again? Whatever one.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: Having played number six three times and they put that
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: pin back, especially back right, that green just comes right
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: back at your feet, and if you don't get it
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: back there, you're screwed. If you do get it back
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: there and it bounces forward, you're screwed. That is one
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: of the toughest pins to heck it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you're taking too much. EJ just played what is It?
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: A month ago aut Augusta. I texted EJ this morning, Brett,
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: why don't you read what I texted?
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: What he said back? Ask him if you'd rather go
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: to the moon.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Doing show watching early Masters. All I can think about
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: is bleep, bleep, blake, blake, bleep, VIC forgetting to play Augusta.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: And he said, and you you and blank blake, blank
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: you and blank blank bleep you and VIC for Augusta.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: And he said, suck it. Mos exactly my feeling.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: I have zero trying to enjoy the early rounds and
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: Olive Thabo going for the pin on six and all
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: I get is suck it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: That's all I get. Nobody cares pretty much.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: I'm just trying to paint the picture for you that
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: the elevation change at Augusta is much more severe than
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: the television shows.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: You just take that into account.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: Again, at around eight o'clock is when you get some
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: of the big names t and Off seven forty three,
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Jason Day, Dustin Johnson, Shane Lowry, Tommy Fleetwood, Patrick Reid, Ax,
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Shay Petilla, and then it's Fitzpatrick, Shambeau, Shoffley, all those
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: guys coming up here and just didn't thirty minute.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: You didn't expect anything different from him today?
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: Did you that he was gonna mention that he played there?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: But he's just gonna be a I didn't bring anything.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't bring it up. Did I bring it up?
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: You're the one who started talking Masters today. You started
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: the whole show with that. Let me let me cleanse
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: your palate a little bit. I just read this this morning.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: Broncos fans.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Here's some football talk. Broncos fans. Name for me.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: The three Bronco Super Bowl MVPs in their history. Name
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: for me those three players who was awarded Super Bowl MVP.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: Why uh, cleanse your palate to get him off the
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: Masters stuff, because I know he's mad. Who are they
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: three Broncos have won Super Bowl MVP?
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Who are they? John L Way, Yep, charl Davis and
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: got it all right. So I just wanted to make
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: sure I cleanse your palate.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: What you know, what if I were, if if I
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: were clean right now, if you can cleanse it right now,
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: if I were a jury of your radio peers, I
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: would sentence you to five minutes of no talking.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: If I gave you those three.
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: Broncos that you just named Super Bowl MVPs, and you
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: gave me a Mount Rushmore of Bronco players, the four
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: best of all time?
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Would they be on it all?
• 31:57
  Speaker 9: Three?
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: What are we doing?
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: I'm just trying to change the topic because Moser doesn't
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: like to talk about me playing Augusta three times.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: So Mount Rushmore for the greatest.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: Problem in Mount Rushmore talks. We aren't doing no, We're
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: the masters are going on. The Rockies are five hundred,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: and we're like days away from the playoffs. I'm not
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: doing Mount Rushmore talk for you. By the way, the
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Abs played tonight, that too, Oh, that too.
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: Oh.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I just forgot about the best team in the league.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Look at me, I said, the playoffs. You know what
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I said?
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: The playoffs around the corner that involves two teams here, right.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: You know what, I'm so bored by you too. I'm
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: actually thinking about going back to jury duty.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: You know what, be my guest. Please go sit in
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: that plastic chair and have your butt hurt. At least
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I can have a five with you.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: At least if I went to jury duty and I
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: asked that question, I'd have a nice conversation with people.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't be shut down like this shut them down.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: Entirely all day. By the way, this tanking, as we
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: witnessed in real time last night with the Memphis Grizzlies,
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: as they sat eleven players, real players.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: Eleven and think about that eleven you had to go
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: invent players because you don't have enough player.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: You had to literally go buy players and say hey,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: can you play?
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: So how do you fix tanking? The NBA thinks that
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: they're going to have a fix to this, and I
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: think it's the dumbest thing I've ever read. We'll get
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: to it next, all right. I just saw yesterday the
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: NBA's Board of Governors. They're gonna meet try and fix
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: this tanking issue that they have. And I really don't
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: understand what they're trying to do here. So here's what
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: they're going to vote on on May twenty eighth as
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: a anti tanking draft lottery reform. Eighteen teams in a lottery,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: the bottom ten that missed the play in in the
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: eight that qualify. The bottom ten teams each have an
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: eight percent chance of moving up in the lottery. Other
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: eight teams split twenty percent of the odds moving up
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: all eighteen spots drawn as part of the lottery.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: That's what.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: So they're trying to make this more equitable between teams
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: one from ten through eighteen or whatever. And I just
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: I want to ask the same thing I've asked over
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: and over again that nobody in the NBA seems to
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: have an answer to, which is the only question they
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: should be asking.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: What is the incentive to win?
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Saying you have a better shot if you're worse doesn't
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: incentivize teams to continue to win.
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: The worst thing that could possibly happen to the NBA
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: happened over the course of the last few years, and
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: that is they incentivized a mediocre team, not a bad team,
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: a medium range team, and gave them the number one
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: pick in the draft.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: By virtue of odds. Who was that team? It was
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: doubt they got Cooper Flagg.
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: So these other teams who are hovering around mediocrity, now,
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: who know that if they go through a seven game
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: series with Oklahoma City, you got no chance.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna win.
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: Why would you want to go through that when you
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: have pretty damn good odds, now as good as some
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: of these other really bad teams to get the number
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: one pick.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: You tell me, I just there's two parts to this,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: but just to stay on that part, fick.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: So right now, basically how this would work is the
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: way the odds in the draft lottery are now. The
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: top three teams all have a fourteen percent chance of
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: getting the first pick that would change to each team
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: in the top ten draft picks all have eight percent.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: So here's what would happen if the season ended today.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: The Washington Wizards are the worst team in the NBA,
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: They would be at one. The Milwaukee Bucks would be
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: at ten, and they would have the equal amount of chance,
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: which is to get the first overall pick.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: And he's ridiculous. Here's the other part you are opening
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: the door to.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Let's just hypothetically say there's a lot of scuttle butt
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: about Gianni's potentially not staying in Milwaukee.
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait a.
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: Minute, they just won the number one overall draft pick.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: You don't think a million people are gonna have conspiracy
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: theories about what you're doing as a league.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: You mean, like, how could Nico Harrison trade Luca? Oh
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: wait a minute, they just won the number one pick
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: in the draft. Yeah, man, dude, listen, you've reached into
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: the choir here. It's it's ridiculous what the NBA thinks
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: is going to fix this, because this is not a fix.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: It's just not It's gonna lead to more conflict, it's
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: gonna lead the more head scratching. And remember when they
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: invented Remember when they brought us to play in and
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: I thought it was great adaptations.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I thought it was wonderful. I love it. I love
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: it too it. I was like, Wow, you're giving teams.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: Now who are scrapping their way in the second half
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: of their season, a chance to get a taste, chance
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: to get in.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Well, not all you've done is ruin that. You've ruined it.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: They don't want to taste. They don't want it. Yeah,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: they don't want to taste anymore.
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: The incentive is not to lose in the play and
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: the incentive would be to have as good of odds
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: as the crappiest team in the league giving the number
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: one exactly, the incentive is to not make the play
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: in at all.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: And you know what, it's a financial incentive.
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: So the financial burden of getting wiped off the face
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: of the earth in the first round against OKC versus
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: the financial windfall of landing a guy like Cooper Flag
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: or one of these topics, it's not even close. Teams
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: understand what that's worth.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: And what is best to your franchise.
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: As far as you know, making it financially a financial
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: incentive for teams or players, the money is so crazy.
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: The financial incentive is to get the number one pick,
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: cell a billion jerseys, become a better you know, I mean,
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: it doesn't outweigh the fact that getting the number one
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: pick in the draft is the best possible outcome.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: I think this system is going to make teams that
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: are as Vic's talking about, teams that are maybe hovering
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: around the play in.
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: It incentivizes them even more to lose.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: Correct like it does, it actually does the opposite of
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: what you're trying to do.
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: And it's been doing that again. It's taken a great idea,
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: which was the play in, one of the greatest ideas
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: I've seen in pro sports. To be honest with you,
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: because the first couple of years they did the play in,
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: Were you guys engaged?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Were you guys into it? Yeah?
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: I was right because it was cool teams. Because what
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: it does is it promotes the competitive flavor of sports.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: It's like, God, these teams are competing.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Look at them.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: They want to win, they want to get to the
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: next round. They want to that's taking it all out
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: the window. Now nobody cares because they understand there's no
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: value in that. There's no value in sneaking in as
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: a playing team because you're gonna get waxed by the
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: top teams.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: You got no chance.
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: Now you could in other sports. Here's the difference between
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: nbaando VIC.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: The Miami Heat made the finals again the Nuggets as
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: a playing team as an eight seed, and well, that's
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: a place exactly they did.
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: So why are more people taking that approach? Why are
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: most people taking the opposite approach? Why did the Dallas
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: Mavericks two seasons ago or three seasons ago, remember when
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: they were close to playing and they started taking Remember that,
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: so why did they take And they said Kyrie as well?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Was Kyrie there? Yeah? They said, yeah, you know what
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: these feelings? He was hurt.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: These teams are running away from competition, the competitive I mean,
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: that's why we're in it.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: You want to beat the other team.
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: They don't care because of the financial win fall of
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: getting a top player.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: You know what's funny is that Nelly during the Advertiser
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: he said, well, I don't know if there's any scenario
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: where there wouldn't be conspiracy theories about this. I got
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: one something coming up in two weeks where there is
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: no conspiracies. The Raiders are picking first because they're the
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: worst team in the League's there's no conspiracies arounding like
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: how did the Raiders get the first pick?
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: But they were terrible?
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: But then the race to the bottom would begin at
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: the start of the season, a different beasts, different timeout.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: I understand all of that. What I'm going to go
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: back to again, though, is there has to be the
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: only way to fix this. There's only one way, and
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: they haven't answered the question what will make teams want
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: to win?
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Vic? Ask your girl, I I had.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: Look My idea I don't think can work practically, but
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: at least in the theoretical it would make sense. My
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: idea was, wherever you finish out of the playoff race.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: So there's.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: Let's see here, ten teams that don't make the playoffs, right,
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: let's even include the play in teams. I'll throw eighteen
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: of them out there, each spot that you would finish.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: If you finish as the eighteenth worst team in the league,
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: you get X amount of dollars to spend in free agency.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: I know you can't do that because it messes with
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: cap stuff, But if you want to talk about incentivizing
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: a team to get something out of winning, even if
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: they don't win a championship.
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: Then you have to do something that makes it viable
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: for that. Yeah, but dude, what you're that proposal is
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: way off the charts.
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: I'm sick of incentivizing and DZ, you shouldn't have to
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: be incentivized to compete.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: That's what's at the core of this.
• 41:27
  Speaker 10: For me.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: It's silly, like the notion that you would want to
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: lose because financially this is a game. It makes no sense,
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: and the reason it occurs is simple. In football, when
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: you get to a playoff and you're a lesser team.
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: Let's say you sneak into the playoffs at eight to nine.
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: We've seen subs. Just did it last year. Yes, you
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: have a chance in a one game playoff to win.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: You have a chance in a seven game.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: Playoff against a team like OKC or San Antonio or Denver.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: You got no chance.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: Done speaking of it, and that's where the incentive is lost.
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: That's where it's gone. These teams understand it, and Brett,
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry to go on here.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Here's the last thing I want to bring up.
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: All you have to do is pull up the NBA
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: standing and you can see who the haves and have
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: nots are. The havelves, obviously, are all going to the
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: playoffs or the play it. Do you know the number
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: of games that separate the number ten seed and the
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: number eleven seeds, the eleven and on that are all
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: going to the lottery. In the Eastern Conference, it is
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: separated by ten and a half games. In the West,
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: it's separated by eleven and a half games, which means
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: these teams went way out of their way.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: To make sure that they're not even close to the
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: play in these so you got.
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: A group of teams New Orleans, Memphis, Dallas, Sacramento, Utah, Milwaukee, Chicago, Brooklyn.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Indiana, Washington.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: That group of teams have no interest in playing competitive basketball.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: We none.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: You know what's funny. We had the TV on in
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: here yesterday and Anthony Davis was on Good Morning America
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: promoting his new television show, and I'm like, isn't your season.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Happening right now? Yeah?
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: Those teams and their players and I shouldn't say players
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: because the players are sort of stuck in the wash here.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: The players on the court. I want to win.
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: It's not the players, it's the teams. It's the management,
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: it's the ownership, it's the teams. Those franchises want no
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: part of winning basketball games right now.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: And I don't know how to fix that.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: By the way, when Ad went to the Lakers and
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: all that crap, when he went to the Lakers, Yeah,
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: let's go the first time.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I have an idea, So do I just hit me?
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Why is okay?
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: Why is Anthony Davis hosting this television show with Lebron
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: James production company.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Money.
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: Anthony Davis is not engaging. It's not he's not funny.
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: He's not a good host.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you man. When he went their back door
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: deals were made, I believe like, hey, man, if you
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: come here blah blah blah, and it will get your
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: own TV show, we'll put in the works.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: And then why why is this guy all of a sudden.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: Of a TV show they got back door?
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: What's you got idea?
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: The remaining teams that are obviously tanking, guess what this
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: Sunday when the season ends. Your season doesn't end. You're
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: gonna have your own playoff for the top pick and
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: the second pick. You're gonna play against each other. You're
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: gonna have to fill your arenas and you're gonna have
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: to do what you can to get people to come
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: to games, and you're gonna play against one another to
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: determine your fate in the lottery.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: Why would the players care, well, what do you mean?
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: Why would players players? Why would the players care? Because
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: they're paid. They're paid to play. They're paid right now
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: not to play, But now the incentive changes. Now they're
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: paid to lose in a playoff.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: They are gonna be paid to win.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: Pay InHand, you're saying the incentive changes for the organization,
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: not for the player.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Hey, that's for those organizations to figure it out.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: Now you're yeah, I'm just telling you you are not
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: going to get a player to take extra risk and
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: potentially injuring themselves for a game that does not ultimately
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: matter to them.
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying, all right.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: So fix it, dude, you are backing me up. I don't.
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: I don't disagree with you, but every you're I mean,
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: you're just throwing everything at the wall.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Nothing's gonna stick. I'm what I saw last night.
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: You know, Chris Marlow gave me the number, and Chris,
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: if you're listening, call into the show because he had
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: a wealth of these kind of numbers.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Do you know what the average average score is in
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: an NBA game? The margin of victory this season? Do
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: you know what it is in the NBA? Give me
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: a number.
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: What do you think the average margin of victory is
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: in the National.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Right? What do you think I'll go with most? Nine?
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Thirteen and a half.
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: It's the largest margin of victory in the history of
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: the NBA, thirteen and a half, which.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Tells me what a joke?
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: Can I throw out a hair brained idea that I
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: just thought of that's probably not gonna make sense. I
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: haven't even thought of three yet. Worst team in the
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: league gets the number one pick.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Would just WAITA.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: Worst team in the league gets the number one pick,
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: the fifth worst team in the league gets the number
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: two pick. The tenth worst team in the league gets
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: the number three pick.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: How about that? So now you're stacking. No, I don't
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: You know why, because that's how teams like san Antonio
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: get gifted great picks when they don't deserve it. The
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: fact that san Antonio years back got Tim Duncan, and
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: they after David rob Robinson, the fact that they were
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: handed when Ben Yama and then they go get the
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: other kid, and then they three years in a row
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: they get studs because why because they decided. Even in
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: the great mind, even the great Popovich tanked, he tanked,
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: but it won two three. No, you were awarded san
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: Antonio for being crappy. No, I don't want to reward
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: teams for being crappy on purpose not doing it.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, the man says he's not doing it.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: Bretton, I'm not what in Memphis sending eight guys to
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: a game. I mean, I could have gone to the
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: Dace and pulled three or four more. Get back to
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: that nugget.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: You know what we tried to get.
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: I tried to get you at ten day with the
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: grizz last night, by the way, did to fulfill your dream?
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Did you know that we had your back?
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: Jeff Lagwell's going to join us at ne o'clock Instagram