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ITB on WBCB: Adam Caplan, Andrew DiCecco Go Inside Eagles Loss To Cowboys, Preview Black Friday Game Vs. Bears · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Now Here are your hosts from Inside the Birds, Adam
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  Speaker 3: what to see Andrew and It's produced by Gus Barber
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  Speaker 3: and Andrew. Here we are at Chicken Pizza, Marlton, New Jersey.
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  Speaker 3: this is one of my favorites.
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  Speaker 2: How are you so andrew one thing?
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  Speaker 3: And let's get to you immediately because this Cowboys loss
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  Speaker 3: obviously some crazy losses in my career for this football team.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get right to your initial thoughts in this game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean it was a game in which they got
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  Speaker 5: off to a fast start offensively, and then what happened
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  Speaker 5: after that was you started to see a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of penalties, a lot of penalties. Eagles had fourteen penalties
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  Speaker 2: for ninety six yards.
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  Speaker 5: They weren't able to execute crazy and I think that
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  Speaker 5: that's been something that's been a prevailing theme throughout the
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  Speaker 5: season and it hasn't caught up to him until Sunday afternoon.
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  Speaker 5: And that's something that aj Brown was trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 5: alert them to, like trying to get away from some
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  Speaker 5: of that so that it doesn't come back and haunt
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  Speaker 5: them down the line.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy because they actually had fifteen penalties. One was
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  Speaker 3: offset okay, the Cowboys. They had an offset in penalty.
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  Speaker 3: Fourteen accepted penalties is embarrassing. For a team as good
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  Speaker 3: as the Eagles. That can't happen, and they divided an
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  Speaker 3: offensive defense. Fred Johnson had what free penalties? I think, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're even two on at least two on special teams.
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  Speaker 3: Actually three And how about this one? Back to back
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  Speaker 3: penalties from I don't oven in front of me.
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  Speaker 2: I know A J.
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  Speaker 3: Bront had the second one, and AJ talked about it.
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  Speaker 3: He's like he knows he can't do that. It DeVante
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  Speaker 3: had one as well. Yeah, that which is thank good.
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  Speaker 3: That can't happen. It's just surprising to me. And this
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  Speaker 3: is not the first game, Andrew. They've had penalty problems,
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  Speaker 3: and I know Sirianni is going to take responsibility. And
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  Speaker 3: it's true in coaching, if it's happening, you're allowing if
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  Speaker 3: there's something you're.
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  Speaker 2: Not doing right.
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  Speaker 3: Nicks a fantastic coach, But this cannot happen when you're
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  Speaker 3: up twenty one nothing and then and here's the other thing, Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: So they're moving the ball in the.
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  Speaker 3: Second half, four drives are stalled by penalt like people
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  Speaker 3: were killing Patullo that there are plenty of times you
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  Speaker 3: can get on Kepa Batullo.
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  Speaker 2: Well you could say, I know the fans can't you know,
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  Speaker 2: they latch a lot of coacher. They can't stand. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know how it is. You lived your whole life
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  Speaker 2: in this area. Yeah, so go ahead, Andrew, You're thoughts
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  Speaker 2: in all of this, So I think, yeah, I agree
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  Speaker 2: one hundred percent of what you said.
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  Speaker 5: I think a lot of the the vitrial sent in
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  Speaker 5: the direction to Kevin Bittulo's largely overblown. Now, he is
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  Speaker 5: a culprit, but I've always said this and I maintained
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  Speaker 5: this at him. It is a collective as to why
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  Speaker 5: there are shortcomings for this Eagles offense. But something that
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  Speaker 5: I don't agree with, and I think it's sort of
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  Speaker 5: a theme that I see out there after that game,
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  Speaker 5: and that it was that the Eagles were conservative after
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  Speaker 5: they got out of the twenty one point lead. Look
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  Speaker 5: coming out of the half, they had the eight yard
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  Speaker 5: completion of Grant Cockatara, then a really nice play to
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  Speaker 5: Dallas gott It.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it may have been play action if I'm
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  Speaker 2: remembering it illegal, Yeah, crazy it was Matt Pryor was
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  Speaker 2: covered up.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was Devonte Smith. You look at the
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  Speaker 5: play before Saquon bark We fumbled. It was a sixteen
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  Speaker 5: yard completion into DeVante Smith. Fred Johnson gets caught for
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  Speaker 5: hands to the fake got him up. Come on, Fred like,
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  Speaker 5: well you're better. He's a bested betteran by the way.
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  Speaker 5: So I look at that second half at him, and
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  Speaker 5: they were pushing the ball down the field, they weren't
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  Speaker 5: able to connect it or due to execution lapses. And
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  Speaker 5: this has been something that you look at all the
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  Speaker 5: games this season. They've had spurts where they play a
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  Speaker 5: good half, but you more or less see them fall
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  Speaker 5: victim to ech miscues. And I think that to me
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  Speaker 5: has been the big takeaway coming off that game.
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  Speaker 3: All right now, my one issue. And you're able to
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  Speaker 3: see Greg co SEL's notes, we send them to you.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny because we explain this on the and you'll
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  Speaker 3: see this actually know it hit today the inside the
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  Speaker 3: tape with Greg co Sell, folks, if you've not seen it.
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  Speaker 3: And this is why coach of Kape matters because and
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  Speaker 3: that's the same take that the coaches use. I thought
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  Speaker 3: the offensive line played well well, not as well as
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  Speaker 3: I thought because Greg's notes they had problems with pass
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  Speaker 3: protection way worse DONNA expect it.
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  Speaker 2: I done.
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  Speaker 3: The run block was not good. Think this is just
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  Speaker 3: one of these things you can't know, Andrew, you're training
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  Speaker 3: to camp, Yeah, Okay, be honest. What were your thoughts
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  Speaker 3: of this offensive line overall coming to the season.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I had high expectations, just like I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: most did.
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  Speaker 5: And I go back to something that I said Adam
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  Speaker 5: that I think really rings true, especially now. A lot
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  Speaker 5: was made about the season that Sakwon Barkley had the
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  Speaker 5: four hundred and eighty two touches if you're including the postseason,
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  Speaker 5: but not enough was made about how that kind of
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  Speaker 5: style of play would affect the offensive line, that kind
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  Speaker 5: of attrition, and you saw that manifest early in the season,
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  Speaker 5: whether it was Landon Dickerson, he had a multitude of injuries.
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  Speaker 5: I think the back injury was the one that was
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  Speaker 5: going into the first week. Jordan Mailatta has struggled, and
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  Speaker 5: Cam Jergens had the offseason back surgery.
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Stein's been fine.
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  Speaker 5: Lane Johnson had a couple of injuries this season and
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  Speaker 5: now he's out with the list. Frank, So, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it's not really a surprise when there's there's going to
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  Speaker 5: be a drop off when you have a future Hall
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  Speaker 5: of Fame right tackle on Lane Johnson who's the best
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  Speaker 5: at what he does, and then you replace him with
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  Speaker 5: Frett Johnson. It's not always going to be as seamless
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  Speaker 5: as what someone on the outside maybe perceive it to be.
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  Speaker 5: And so so I saw a lot of shortcomings from
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  Speaker 5: the offensive line in the game. And normally I will
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  Speaker 5: say this, in past protection they have been relatively so yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but in this game, not only were they deficient and
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  Speaker 5: run blocking, but also in pass protect.
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  Speaker 2: I was surprised. Yeah, Hurts had a solid game.
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  Speaker 3: I know Greg had a couple of criticisms, but he's
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  Speaker 3: not looking at it from TV copy like us at home,
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  Speaker 3: and I asked them off cameras. So, yeah, he did
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  Speaker 3: play well, but you need to see these things better.
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  Speaker 3: His job is coaches will tell you, Andrew when you
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  Speaker 3: great tape. They have the numbers, but they have the
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  Speaker 3: tape and past placement. Hurts the pass behind Brown, bro
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  Speaker 3: made a good catch. He made a good yards after
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  Speaker 3: a catches where you got nice exactly. This has been
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  Speaker 3: a constant issue with people around the league have told me,
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  Speaker 3: you've got to put the ball out there to go
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  Speaker 3: for him to go get the football. He made an
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  Speaker 3: unbelievable anticipation throw, which was in Greg's notes, and that's
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  Speaker 3: actually a sign of growth. That means you're understanding, prestat
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  Speaker 3: what you're looking at, and post step where the ball's
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  Speaker 3: got to go. It's actually really good. Yeah, but he
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  Speaker 3: had a solid game. But the offensive line, Andrew.
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  Speaker 5: It's well, we should also say, while you're on that point,
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  Speaker 5: you can't take that thirteen yard sack on third and
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  Speaker 5: two and that pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: Ended the game. He can't do that. Great point, Andrew,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta throw the football away and you shouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: dropping back that far back.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you can't better awareness, right, It's it's situational awareness.
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  Speaker 3: Now here's what I did. Like I've been I don't yell,
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  Speaker 3: but I've been imploring them. Could you get Hurts off
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  Speaker 3: to a better start? Get him comfortable and accurate short
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  Speaker 3: area passes.
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  Speaker 2: As John D.
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  Speaker 3: Flippall told me last week, I called coach Flip to
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  Speaker 3: Brow whenever the Eagles in seventeen. I said, hey, how
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  Speaker 3: do you help a quarterback get comfortable? This is a
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  Speaker 3: great line, he said. I want the quarterback to see
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  Speaker 3: my pass target, get the ball and catch it and
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  Speaker 3: feel good that he completed the pass. That's what Kevin
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  Speaker 3: Mattool of the things he struggled with. This is his
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  Speaker 3: fifth year he knows what hurts. His shortcomings are. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: when your quarterback is struggling to see the field correctly
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  Speaker 3: and not and to not go where the ball supposed
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  Speaker 3: to go, and you want him to put the ball
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  Speaker 3: where it's supposed to go. Get him accurate, get get
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  Speaker 3: him comfortable. And he did that first two plays, twelve personnel,
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  Speaker 3: boom boom. Hurts got off to a great start, they did.
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  Speaker 3: And that's coaching, and he's got to do a better
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  Speaker 3: job of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what you're allowing your quarterback to do is get
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  Speaker 2: into a rhythm. And I think that's the line, and
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  Speaker 2: I think too.
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  Speaker 5: Often the Eagles have gotten away from that to start games,
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  Speaker 5: and it often leads to a radic play in the
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  Speaker 5: passing game. To me, Dallas Goddard would be the prime
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  Speaker 5: example of someone who can be that safety valve. You
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  Speaker 5: can do a lot of different things with them and
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  Speaker 5: those short completions over the middle of flat ones who
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  Speaker 5: should be able to really help jump start the offense.
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  Speaker 5: And I thought that Kevin Patula to start the game
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  Speaker 5: had a really really sound plan of attack.
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  Speaker 2: Now there's a number of reasons.
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  Speaker 5: Why things started, you know, fell by the wayside, penalties,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the penalties, but there were but there I think,
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  Speaker 5: if you're looking for a silver lining encouraging signs is
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  Speaker 5: that there were plays to be made in the second half.
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  Speaker 2: They just did not capitalize on them due to no
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  Speaker 2: fault of their own.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So offensively, I like your points about Goddard.
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  Speaker 3: He has to at least two plays called back due
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  Speaker 3: a penalty, which is ridiculous because him it hurts, you
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  Speaker 3: know it. You and I were there, we were talking
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  Speaker 3: about it. The chemistry they had was real. Godard Scott
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  Speaker 3: with seven touchdowns, but he could be doing so much more.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that he warrants more volume. When you
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  Speaker 5: see what he's able to do, he's been producing. I
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  Speaker 5: think he in many ways. And I go back to
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  Speaker 5: what I was just saying, being that safety valve. There's
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  Speaker 5: a comfort level there, there's a trust there in Jalen
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  Speaker 5: Hurts with Dallas Goddard, and I'm actually surprised. We look
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  Speaker 5: at the touchdowns, but if you look at the receptions
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  Speaker 5: and the targets, I think that he's.
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  Speaker 2: Being even underutilized. I agree. So I'm curious to see
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  Speaker 2: if they're able to take advantage.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't want to get too far ahead, but
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  Speaker 5: the Bears are awfully banged up at linebacker.
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  Speaker 2: This could be a down game. Yep, good point, and
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  Speaker 2: we'll get to the Bear. We'll get the match with
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  Speaker 2: later in the second segment.
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  Speaker 3: But so offensively, that's that's defensively, Andrew, it's really interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Other than the drive that they scored late, their defense
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  Speaker 3: is fantastic. I know that they Eagles could dominate the game.
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  Speaker 2: They only give.
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  Speaker 3: It one explosive run in the first half seven in
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  Speaker 3: the second half. Yeah, now part of it is one
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  Speaker 3: Jomo got hurt. Morojomi came back from that arm or race.
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  Speaker 2: He came back. Yeah, he came back. Something that they
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  Speaker 2: explosive runs by coaching is five yards and more.
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  Speaker 3: That's an explosive run. So they got to tighten that up.
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  Speaker 3: But overall, let's get your thoughts on.
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  Speaker 5: The defense, you know, the Actually I just wrote about
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  Speaker 5: this on Inside the Birds dot com, so on my
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  Speaker 5: takeaways from Vic Vangio. This is where numbers can be deceiving, right,
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  Speaker 5: because you look at four hundred and seventy three total
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  Speaker 5: yards total net yards that they gave up, and you
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  Speaker 5: may think, well, that's a faulty performance by the defense,
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  Speaker 5: But without context, I think.
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  Speaker 2: He did suck as king or contact is king.
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  Speaker 5: So I feel like I look at inside the five
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  Speaker 5: yard line, red blanket ship pick saw Dak Prescott Xavier
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  Speaker 5: Gibson later in the game, fields a ball at the
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  Speaker 5: two yard line, fumbles the football. The Cowboys get the
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  Speaker 5: ball back at the eight yard line, and it looked
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  Speaker 5: like they were going to go in for the go
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  Speaker 5: ahead touchdown at that moment, and that didn't happen because
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  Speaker 5: the Eagles held him out on four downs. And I
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  Speaker 5: think that underscores that that bend but don't break. They
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  Speaker 5: gave up twenty four points. I mean, I think that
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  Speaker 5: should be able to help you win most games. And
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  Speaker 5: you know, outside of some, you know some Javonte Williams
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  Speaker 5: rons and I thought they did a good job stopping
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  Speaker 5: the run. He had eighty seven yards on twenty carries.
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  Speaker 5: And then sometimes you have to tip your cap to
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  Speaker 5: the other player. George Pickens killed them.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it was phenomenon, has been phenomenal, but high pointing
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  Speaker 2: the football, attacking the catch point, those are all things
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  Speaker 2: that exceptional players do. And he gave even Cooper dejene
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  Speaker 2: fits all right, a couple of things on the gene.
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  Speaker 2: I think what happened was and I.
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  Speaker 3: Understand that you know in base he plays corner, but
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  Speaker 3: it's the sudden change that he's got to change his mind. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: where am I lining up? Okay, I might be lining
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  Speaker 3: up by corner. Of the rest of the game, he struggled,
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  Speaker 3: He gave a free big plays and quite frankly, he
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  Speaker 3: had another penalty. Yeah, clearly did that that hurt them.
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  Speaker 3: There's no question about it.
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  Speaker 5: That could have went either way, honestly, and there was
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  Speaker 5: hand fighting on both sides. Initially I thought that I
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  Speaker 5: thought he grabbed them, but it also like this, But
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  Speaker 5: it also looked like CD pushed off as well.
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  Speaker 2: Initially. Yes, so yeah, I mean they're gonna they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: give that to the receiver every time if it's close.
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  Speaker 3: They just what happened is okaylacking ship gets hurt major
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  Speaker 3: he's he sets everything up in the back end.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Sidney Brown, look, he's just a backup. Okay, he's not
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  Speaker 3: been what the Eagles thought. Tearing his ACL two years
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  Speaker 3: ago and against the Giants, I believe I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was a meniscus.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know whatever it was. Whatever it was was
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  Speaker 2: a major knee injury.
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  Speaker 3: He's never been the same, not physically, mentally, makes a
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  Speaker 3: lot of mistakes. You know about all the special teams penalt.
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  Speaker 3: I know he's very good in special hit another special
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  Speaker 3: team's penalty. By the way, He's a blow average coverage player.
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  Speaker 3: He's just not very good in coverage. He never was
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  Speaker 3: at Illinois. He was a Fox safety who was a
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  Speaker 3: tone center. That doesn't work here. You got to be
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  Speaker 3: able to cover in the National Football League. This is
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  Speaker 3: nineteen eighties, nineteen ninety football. You got to be able
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  Speaker 3: to cover. He's a problem. Before we have to take
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  Speaker 3: this quick break, tell us about Andre sam Yeah, Andre
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  Speaker 3: Sam is in his second year with the Eagles. He
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  Speaker 3: was on the practice squad for the entire year of
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  Speaker 3: last season. He's one of the few players who have
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  Speaker 3: been on the practice squad all season long.
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  Speaker 2: The Eagles roy like him. He went to a number
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  Speaker 2: of different colleges McNee State. Marshall finished at LSU, where
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  Speaker 2: I think he was their defensive player of the year
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  Speaker 2: for LSU.
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  Speaker 5: And he was a highly coveted rookie free agent last
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  Speaker 5: summer or two summers ago. And he's a big hitter.
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  Speaker 2: He's shown signed to promise and coverage.
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  Speaker 5: And he actually was active for one game last season
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  Speaker 5: against the Carolina Panthers, and he played largely on special teams.
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  Speaker 5: But I mean, when they were parsing down their roster
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  Speaker 5: there was I gave some considerable thoughts of putting Andre
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  Speaker 5: Sam on as my final safety they want with Tristan McComb,
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  Speaker 5: but it was that close where I thought he performed
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  Speaker 5: well enough and made that made enough of.
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  Speaker 2: A leap in year two, so we'll see. It's likely
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna have to be elevated here. No, that he
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: might be.
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  Speaker 3: He might be starting depending on blanket Ship. Now, Michael Carter, Right,
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  Speaker 3: but here's the problem. If Kuth playing corner, which I
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well tell me who else can? Well, it all
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  Speaker 2: depends on what Vic Fangio deems to be the best
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  Speaker 2: combination going into that game against that particular matchup. And
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  Speaker 2: the Bears are deep at white versus he also is available. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Michael said, it sounds like Reid blank Ship is gonna play.
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  Speaker 2: if he does. If he does, who starts next to
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  Speaker 3: He confirmed that today and today it's Carter, and it's
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: got to be Carter at nicol and Dejeene at corner
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  Speaker 3: has to be. That's by far to me. What else
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: could put Jack Corydon Pennett no confidence? And we know
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: about Ringo. You got a penalty with six naps. Yeah,
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: it's kind of obvious.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we should also mention that Dorry Jackson suffered ahead
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: injury in the game, and that's why this is even
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: a conversation, right, would be his second concussion this season.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: This season, by the way, we'll get to the injury
• 16:25
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  Speaker 3: All Right, Andrew, Wow, Okay, let's get to the Eagles,
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  Speaker 3: because there are a lot of Andrews for both teams.
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  Speaker 2: Eagles, leading into the last week's gamer, are one of
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: the healthiest teams in the National Football League. Yeah, oops,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: not anymore. Andrew.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Offensively, when know Lane Johnson's out with this front spring, Okay,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: so their hope is somehow by the end of the
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: season he's ready to go. And we know that Bred
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Johnson is his backup, right, so we know that. Let's
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: get to defense, Moro Joe. Also, Xavier Gibson got hurt
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: in the game. Oh yeah, here was it a shoulder?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Apparently he was in his slang. Okay, you saw, Okay,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I was. I mean, I wasn't there, but that's what
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I heard. Let me ask you a question.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: You've covered Britain Covey since this rookie season, how great
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: he was as a returner in twenty two.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: What we know he's recovered. I know he's talked about
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: the neck issue. Yeah.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I talked to someone close to him. He said he's
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: perfectly healthy. Why do you think he I mean, who
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: else could other than Britain Covey. Let's talk If Gibson's out,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: which seems logical, who else besides Covey, Johan Dotson.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: He's fair catching, right, But it then.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: Comes down to roster spots, right that you may need
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: to have multiple defensive backs elevated depending on the situation. True,
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: and that alters the way that you go about it,
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: And Johan Dotson's been sure handed, he's fair and drop its.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Call it a bunch of fair cons. Yeah, and I
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: think there's a comfort level there.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: He doesn't have the juice or the shiftiness that Gibson
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: or even Covey to a degree has in short area.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: But I think that's the way that they would lean.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: You already have him on the roster, Johan Dotson. All right,
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: let's get to the defense. We talked about Morojoma with
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: a hand injury.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: He came back.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: We'll see if they list him on the injury report,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: but which will come out later tonight, by the way,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: because so they had a are not going to walk
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: through right now walk through five point fifteen? Yeah, wow,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: that is that's an odd one, all right.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: So defensively, so we mentioned of Joemo the hand injury.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: The good thing is he came back, all right.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: So the big one is Drew Macoba. Their hope is somehow,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: some way he can come back for the playoffs. It's
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: a broken right angle that's a minimum of six to
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: eight weeks, so we know he's out at least the
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: regular season. Read blanket ship left thigh injury which will
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: either show up as thigh or hamstring. Oh, Joy Jackson,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: you mentioned before it's we know it's at least a
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: head injury provo concussion. He because they never they never
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: said if he was thin. He just didn't come back.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Although one could presume it's a head injury. We just
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: know that, right, I always right, head until they confirm
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: it to the injury report. So all right, we just
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: outlined before the brain. They have a lot of combinations.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: It depends on who's available. If blanket chips have been
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: it's black chipping a city brown obviously. Now cornerback to
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: me again, it's just so obvious. I know Coop struggled,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: but now he gets to have the ones during the week.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Well here's the other part.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: You're right, you're right, but they only have a walkthrough
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  Speaker 5: today and a practice tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, it's not a real practice. It's
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  Speaker 3: own a sure week. There are no real practices. They're
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  Speaker 3: about an hour. It's more like a jock through because
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  Speaker 3: you can't go have an intense practice when you're not
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: having a normal practice week.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. Bring me through.
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  Speaker 4: He goes.
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  Speaker 3: You know, when you have a Thursday game, it's literally
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  Speaker 3: a walkthrough, yep, because you just played on Sunday, so
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  Speaker 3: you're playing one day later, but then a Thursday game.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: But it's just not a normal week and you've got
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: to get bodies recharge. But mentally it's it's more classroom work.
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  Speaker 3: So whatever they call practice is going to be short.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: And the bottom line is mentally they got to get
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: them sells back. And I think it's actually a good
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: thing that's a short week. Basically what just happens. Yeah,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I agree, it's at home Black Friday. Their Eagles are
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: wearing their all black uniforms, so you know, it might
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: provide a little bit of a jolt to the crowd
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: and two eight and three teams, but you don't have
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: a chance to really dwell on what just happened. You
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: have to look forward. You can't really look back.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: And so I think that you're going to see And
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: I'm curious tomorrow when I speak to some players in
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: the locker room what the temperature is and how they're.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Feeling about this game on Friday. But I can kind
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: of just tell you from being there every day.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: The mindset is always looking to the opposition, regardless of
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: who it is, not making it bigger than what it
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: is and trying to go want to know every week,
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Nick Sirianni has done a really good.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Job of keeping his team focused on this task at hand.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Andrew, you mentioned the temperature, and I hate to bring
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: it up because you know how says siem of weather,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be windy. I can't believe this, like I
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: was hoping, because and I know both quarterbacks have strong
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: arms gus throughout the game twenty eight through thirty two
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: miles an hour oh forty.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Degrees that the cult doesn't.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: You could you could throw in twenty degree whether as
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: long as it's not windy. And you know from being
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: in the link you never know what the crosswinds are like.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: And the talking to two people are on the field.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: For the Packer game, it was bad and you saw
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: well the live game was much worse. Karat Gob doesn't
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: have a strong arm, Hurts does. When you can't throw
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: with power in the wind, you're in trouble. And you
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: were at that game.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: What were the conditions like for you? I mean as
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: you I know you walked that. I know you're in
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: the booth yeah, you're you're in the superbox or the
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: press box. But what did you think of the conditions
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: for that Detroit game? Well, I mean the wind kind
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: of ushered me across the parking lot. And I'm not
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: a small I'm not as small about this. What happened?
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, I'm just exaggerating, But it was very
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: It was very windy, okay, and the winds sort of
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: dissipated a little bit by kickoff.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: But I even talked to a couple of different players
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: and they said the wind didn't really impact them. Now
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I was talking good throwing, Yeah did, but I was
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: talking more to like a punt returner and how the
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: wind didn't really alter It's too bad, But from a
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: passing perspective, there were many times where you could even
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: see it. For Jared god because he doesn't have a
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: particularly strong arm, that it would it was, Yes, it
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: altered its trajectory. And uh, for Jalen there are throws
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: he throws with some zip, but there are throws that
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: he normally makes that were affected by thee A couple
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: correct elements. Let's get to the Bears. Roshawn Johnson is
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: on an IR.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: He's their certain number three back Kyle mcnung guy, the
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: seventh round running back from Rutgers.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: You were at that pro day, tell us about it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: In fact, there was three players on the Bears that
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: I was at the pro Jakwan Brisker, Reuben Hypelite, and
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Kyle mcnunguy. So Kyle mcanunguy is a compact runner. In fact,
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: his brother Kevin back in I think it was the
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Chip Kelly era. He went to Villanova, he was a
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: rookie free agent, and Kyle actually asked him about it.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: He goes, yeah, I remember watching my brother play at
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: the Link. I was like thirteen years old.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Wow. But he's a compact runner. Kind of reminds me
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: a little bit of Doug Martin, the late Doug Martin,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: and in the way that he runs with power, he
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: has some juice and he's more of an inside type
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: of runner, and he compliments DeAndre Swift. So it's kind
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: of like a slash and dash type of a situation
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that they have there in their backfield. But I was
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: very impressed with Kyle, and I actually.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: Had a fifth round grade on him because I mean,
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: he just had a tremendous pro day, caught the ball
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: really Well ran some good routes.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: And we know that he can run, so I think
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: he starting to come on a little bit.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Other than that, they're perfectly healthy. Defensively, they're not all right.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Dio Dengbo wanted up starting Edges is out for the season.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Toward Achilles at linebacker. You mentioned before the break, Tremaine
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Edmunds out their best linebacker, one of the high sped
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: inside backers of the National Football League, with a groin injury.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Just went on IRA last week.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: T J Edwards.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: He's missed six games this season with hamstring and now
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: the hand injury. They didn't put him on IR no,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: but he's missed three games. They're on a short week.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: See what the injury report says. And no Sewell, who's
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: been a top backup linebacker. He missed last week with
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: new elbow injury. In a short week.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Hippolet got hurt. He has a shoulder injury. He had
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: just a fantastic brod. I think he helped his stock
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: went the fourth round round.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they went with Hippolyte and Jackson,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: a linebacker they claimed off waivers. They're down to one
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: healthy linebacker behind those guys. On their fifty three man
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Robb Jones, Right, Yeah, they're in trouble. This helps obviously
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the Eagles. You mentioned a great point. Got her down
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: the scene and we'll see who's healthy. We'll learn later
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: tonight and then in the secondary.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Now this is interesting. Jalen Johnson, who Jeff and I
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: actually interviewed. I got eight years ago. Yeah, I got
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you guys in touch with him? Yeah, thank you.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Doug Henderson was his agent. I think he might
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: still be. He's a groin injury. He had a kef
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: injury earlier. He's only played two games this season. A
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: phenomenal corner went healthy. He's had made he made you
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: shoulder problems in college. He started practicing week eleven. He's
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: been designated for returns when he's close. Carlo Gordon There,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Nicol who she sees Hey Gardner Johnson's filling in for
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: CJ's But Dona, this guy is such a good football player.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: If he just keep his mouth shut, he might actually
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: find a home here. He's a really good football player.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Carlo Gordon started practicing week twelve. Last week he said
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: hamstring growing at calf injuries. Now, the great story is
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: this nay Sean Wright nobody wanted Dallas didn't want him,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: the Vikings didn't want him.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: One of the tallest corners of the National Football the Injuria,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: six foot four. He's done a great job. I like
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: him at Oregon State. I followed his career because he
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: was actually on the Netflix special Last Chance You Call,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: and I sort of followed his career going from there.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: And this is just a tall corner.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: He's physical and he liked the length there where he
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: can kind of narrow and throwing windows and battle on
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: those contest catches.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: And one more thing, a guy who might be starting,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: former Charger linebacker Amen Ogbon Bamiga.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Very well done. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I actually had my voice coach to teach me Ogban
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: then Bamiga. I don't want to say that five times.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: He actually may have to start. So they don't know
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: yet who's gonna be starting at linebacker. But that is
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: this I'm out of breath with all these injuries, man.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Friday at three.
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  Speaker 3: Pm Eastern on Amazon Prime. Any wait, Eagles hosting the Bears.
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  Speaker 3: You'll be in the press box. You know, you know
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  Speaker 3: where I used to sit when I'd be in the
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  Speaker 3: press box.
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  Speaker 2: Is at the twenty yard line on the right door.
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  Speaker 2: I was down on the right side. I had that
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  Speaker 2: seat from twenty oh five, six oh five to twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 4: Same seat.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: They hooked me up. Man, my man, Derry boyco my
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: boy Bob Lang took care of me. It's a great,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: great seat had.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Where do you sit by the way and Superman? Yeah,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: far far right, first row, probably around the same Marya
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: that you said. It sounds like from your description it's
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: maybe like the ten sounds ten or fifty. It's been
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: so long. I just because of our company, I got
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: to be home.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: It's it's hard because then the funny thing, because the
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: podcast is going to John mcballan does the spot in there.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: People do their It's much better being a home. I
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: do miss going you're see agents and the Carter.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: There are a lot of guys I'd like to meet,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: and you just go to Chicki's piece in the back
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: room there after the games on Sundays.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: But hey, I'm glad to be here.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Chicky Beza marks in New Jersey. So keys of the game, Ander,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Let's get to the offense. What do they need to
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: do to score points and beat the Bears on offense?
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Well, they have to run block a lot more proficiently
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: than they have been because this is another game on
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: paper that the Bears are susceptible to giving up yards
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: on the ground. And I think that you talk about
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: the weather conditions, the wind is going to be a
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: big factor. So it behooves the Eagles to find a
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: way to jump start the running game with Sawmarkley and
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: I mean that there is that that is the most
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: logical paths to victory in my estimation.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: And then defensively, I would like to.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: See the pass rush picked up where I left off
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: against the Lions game, because I know the Bears have
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: They've done a lot of work on their offensive line,
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: but the from the off the edges.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: They were very silent against the calatay and and Vick
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: other than the unbelievable Nakobe Dean sak. Yeah, he said
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: he this is what I didn't understand him.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: It could have been and I know sometimes you have
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: to protect yourself when you're losing two starters of the secondary.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's why he blitz at all. Like I think
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: he had six, which is insane. That's look because it's funny.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Earlier in the season he was blitzing a lot. Now
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: it's this game he did. No When you look at
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: the Bears defense, other than Montes Sweat, I remember Dio
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Dengbo lost. These lost the season with twenty kicks. They
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: don't have very good pass rush. Andrew Billings is one
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: of the d tackles. They're okay de tackle.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: He's sort of a journeyman. He was with the It's exactly.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: This is a very beautable front line backwards. If they're
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: all healthy, great, but they're not. You don't even know
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: what's gonna line up.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the way I see it.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: And again it's secondary. You don't know who's going to
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: be a corner. There's nothing I worry about. If I'm
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Patulo and Sirianni and pars Fraziers involved a little bit
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: to me if you could protect and that's a big
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: deal that this is not They don't. Cowboys are much
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: better definitely defensive line. If the wind holds up Andrew,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: there's gonna be places to be made. Also in the
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: pass game.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so, especially from a defensive perspective, you
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: should be able to get you. Now, Caleb Williams has
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: a strong arm, but I think it depending on how
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: the wind affects the trajectory. If you're an Eagles defensive
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: back or even a linebacker, you might be able to
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: pounce on that. And I want to circle back to
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: something that I said about the pass rush. You have
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: a young quarterback in Caleb Williams.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: You can capably throw the football, but he's not overly
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: consistent at this state. He's still young.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: There's been glimpses of things that make he kind of,
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: you know, raise your eyebrows only on the ball sometimes,
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: but he holds onto the ball. And I think when
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: you think of these conditions and the circumstances it could
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: you know, conjure the opportunity to pick off pick off
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: a pass.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Or toot a couple of notes so offensively when the
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Eagles happened, and it was great to see aj and
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Brown get off that great start. And yes they had
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: penalties in the second half that that crushed their passing game.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: But even if Jalen Johnson gets hurt, who knows how
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: healthy he'll be, that can't stop you.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: I know he's really good when he's healthy, great technicians,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: really good football player. And Tyred Stevenson on the other
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: side of Miami, right, who can be beat. I'll be
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: interest to see what they do because na Shawn Wrighty's
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: played really what six foot four and one.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Tenth of financial end.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's kind of one of those defensive
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: backs that gets overlooked and he's a steady player, and
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: I think when you look at his unique dimensions, he
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: doesn't leave a lot of room for error. If you're
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: a quarterback, right, he has the length of he can,
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: you know, really give you a hard time on those
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: contested throws. So yeah, I mean, if you're the Eagles,
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: I think you want to get that early shorts, intermediate
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: passing game going and loosen things up a little bit
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: and then try and pounce and take advantage and play
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: physical vulleyball style with Saquon Barkley.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: One other thing that I want to see from this
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: offense is, and we don't mention this enough, not that
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: they're the greatest screen team in the world, but and
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: I know there have been these play breaks down and
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: hers just gets rid of it.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Could you bring the screen game and.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Our guy Shipley, we know he's explosive. Could you get
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: him involved in the screen game a little bit. It
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: doesn't have to be third down, There's nothing wrong with
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: letting him fill in a little bit. And let's talk
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: about our guy, Tank Bixby. Let's see him get Evovo right.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean Will caught about fifty wheel routes
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: in training camp. He was being linebackers safeties.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: We haven't seen that in the regular season, but he
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: is their most equipped running back in terms of pass catching.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: And I think that when you look at the offense,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: it is what it is.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: But there are certain things that I believe you can
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: do from a personnel grouping standpoint and incorporate other players
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: in to kind of add some variants, and Will Shipley
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: would be one of them.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: And you mentioned Tank Bigsby.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: I talked to Tank Friday, okay, and he you know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: really I always enjoyed my conversations with him. But I
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: was talking to him about his decisiveness, decisiveness as.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: A runner, where was that derived from? And he kind
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: of creates his own holes. And he said, sometimes I
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: watch film and I don't even know how I did
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: some of that stuff. So I think he's somebody that
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: you can give seven eight carries a game. That's the number.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: It's funny you say that. I was talking to telling
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: today about that who works for another team, And I
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: asked us, do you remember you're scouting with your team,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: scouting before he goes Yeah, he runs just like he
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: runs now, choppy, explosive to the outside.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: He gets a little bit carried away of trying to
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: break everything outside.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: He's gotten away with it so far. He's on a
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: limited carries. But that's I've heard him last year with Jacksonville.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: But he's such a great contrast to.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Barkley. To Barkley, they got to get him the ballmore.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Because listen, I'm not saying they got to replace bark
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Obviously you don't do that, it's ridiculous, but get it
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: more in folf because they got to get Andrew.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Moore on the run game.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: I mean on paper this this looks to be one
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: of those matchups where it favors the running game. And
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: we've said that now for a number of weeks and
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: we haven't really seen it manifest. I mean, say, Kwon Barkley,
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: I think he's on pace. You said it seven hard, brother.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I was doing the calculations like this can't be right,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: and I did it three times, Like he's on pace
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: to almost a thousand yards lesson last er eight.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: It's just wow.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: And to my to my eye, he looks to be
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: the same guy. Greg said, he's, he's, he's he thinks
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: he's trying too hard for self. That well, that I
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: agree with, But I don't know. I don't think that
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: he lost his step. He runs hard when holes are there,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: he's able to kind of accelerate through.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: It, and you know there's areas of opportunity and pass protection.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: But he's always been like that. But he doesn't look
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: like he's lost his step. I don't believe that.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: I think sometime he presses a little bit and doesn't
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: necessarily take what's in front of him and tries to hit.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: That home run. But yeah, I mean, I'm they got
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: to continue to lean on him.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get to spetcher teams. There's a lot
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: going on here with the win. Jake ellahead that one
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: great win kick against Detroit was a great kick, but
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: he said a fifty six or fifty fifty six. I
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: thought all Breds was.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Fifty one right, and over also missed one. Yeah, Elliott's
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: missing kicks. This here not a lot.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: He's way better than he was last season, but that's
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: a concern though. I'm not sure what happened there. And
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: then Braiden Man, if he's not a pro bawler, this
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: is throw us. But so far he's been phenomenal. He's
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: braid Man has been outstanding. He put three puns inside
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: the twenty. And this isn't just this game really.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Since he arrived in Philadelphia, he's provided a spark and
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: helped the team out in a big way in terms
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: of field position. He doesn't get enough credit, but I
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: think he should be an all pro. I think he
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: should be an all pro. Yep, I would agree with that.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: And then really to me with a punt and kickoff returns,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: So kickoff return wise, well.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: That's where it's interesting because it was Shipley and Gibson
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: and Tank Bigsby didn't fare well in that area.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: He's not he's not a natural kick returner. He was
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: kind of shoehorned into that role. So it becomes interesting
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: as to how they choose to navigate that, and you
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: start running out of ideas, running out of options pretty quickly. Shipley,
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: Britain Covey is a punp returner or J.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Dillon if they have a master. But yes, he's he's yeah,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: he's a J. Dellen is not really I mean he's
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: done it, but he's not. That's not his forte.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: But but no special teams. Coaches have told me that
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: the one thing you like them with the rules changes,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: it's like inside zone. Well, you also want to power
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: guy with because it's more physical because the the coverage
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: team is way up there.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: They like bigger guys. It's actually imperative that ship would
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: put that that mass on you. We're tell us about
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: he did this season. Yeah, so that it would probably
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: have to be doing you started. Darius Cooper has done
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: it in the preseason, and you know that might be
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: an option. He's already active. He's pins shoulder twice, so
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: we'll see.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's at least in the mix. He's been
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: active every week. He's part of the short yard situation. Yeah,
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: so who knows that would be the other player that would.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Make some sense.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot going on with this game because
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: of injury, and the injury report will be out later
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: tonight and when I'm very curious to see who they
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: have listened because Andrew. The one thing that always pains
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: me is this is a poppe pop up injury we
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: didn't know about.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, man, you know if you played Fantasy right,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I don't you know? I didn't. I thought you'd never
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: played it. This is the second year in a row.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: How he stopped. Yeah, I'm actually the only one week
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: I step had had any time to do it. That's
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: the thing with me. I just don't have any time. Yeah.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: I used to love doing it, but time is everything.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Our time is is personal. But we are a Chicky
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: and Peach of Marlton.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: New Jersey. By the way, this is the Pro Football Report.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Next week, we'll be back at Chicki's and Roosevelt Boulevard.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: We're hoping that will shipley tonight.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: But here's what happened. They have a walkthrough. They had
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: a walk through that just ended. So locking room's going
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: on right now.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he would have been here, So we look
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: forward to having Will on the future showback when we
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: had him in Roosevelt Boulevard.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: How good was he? It's incredible. Yeah, that's Will. I've
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: gotten it am pretty well. So it was just a
• 46:19
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Big Fangrids today, give us the Cliptes version of
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: what bit said.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he mentioned Sidney Brown and what he's
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  Speaker 2: done behind the scenes, staying in tune in the meetings
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  Speaker 2: and more so from an intangible standpoint, and he said
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  Speaker 2: he's looking forward to seeing what he can do confirm
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  Speaker 2: that he's going to be the starter in place in
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Macouba mentioned Cooper Dejene playing outside. He wasn't surprised that
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: he struggled a little bit. He said, look, they've got
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: two good players at wide receiver, two top notch receivers,
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  Speaker 2: and that's kind of the way that it goes.
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: Said that he thought he had tight coverage around the
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: catch point, and he talked about what did he talk
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: about the penalty about subbing. I have to go back
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: and read my quote for that, but I saw on
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  Speaker 5: my ex account and he talked about Michael Carter and
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: that he can play safety, he's been their fourth.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Safety for the past few weeks, and and cited what
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: he likes about him.
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: I think that's a that's going to have a big
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: role out of necessity, of course, but I think he's
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: gonna kind of carve out a role when everyone's even healthy,
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: because it seems to me that vic Bango is intrigued
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: with what he has there. Smart football player, has played
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: a lot of football, and it's that of Vonte Maddox
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: like versatility that he has that I think is going
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: to lend itself to carving out a more substantial role.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Let's not forget he he has a as at one
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: point one of the highest paid nickels in the National
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: Football League, Michael Carter.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: So it's interesting. So when the trade happened, you know,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: I called Jeff.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I said, hey, here, they're going to play him at
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: safety and just in the nickel, and he goes, really yeah,
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: They're thinking was based on the versatility, which you just
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: talked about. Not a cornerback, He's a nickel who they
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: thought could play safetycause he played in college at Duke
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: and although the Jets rarely played him at safety because
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: they move him immediately to nickel, he just thought he
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: could do it because he's done in the past and
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: talk about coming in handy with the all of a sudden,
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: you just never know what injury is going to happen,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: and you better have that versatility. I'm gonna tell you
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: a quick story. So I don't know what year it
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: was now, I know Maddox was drafted in twenty eighteen.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: But remember.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: So Maddox was drafted to being a nickel, right, So
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: they had a slew of safety injuries and Jeff and
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: I we couldn't get the intel and what they were
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: going to do move to safety, so we guessed it
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: could have been four players. We both got it wrong.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: We didn't think Maddox he never played before. See, this
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: is about practice. And I know because when you get
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: ten minutes to watch now fifteen, yeah about that. So
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: they it's not like they're not what don't want to
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: show you. Sometimes you just unless you ask someone inside
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: the building, you're not going to know. And we were
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: all like, and I think they might have played Tennessee
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: that first week if my memory save correctly, what year
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: was this, It's nineteen or twenty.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I don't remember. Oh, I was gonna say twenty eighteen.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: I remember they had last drafted or that drafted. He
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: played some safety in that game. And that was the
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Pickett defense I remember, yees, okay, I think it was.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Was it the Kenny what was the great res here
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: from Rutgers and britt was two thousand and eight? Someone
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: got him? Someone got it.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Might have been Corey Davis, Yeah, yeah, it was and
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: the pick Fence game. But I just remember we were like, wow,
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: they're moving.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Him to safety. We were a trading camp. We never
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: saw that.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: So what happens sometimes is coaches will tell you we
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: got to do what we got to do. Like, we're
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: not worried about what the bands think or the media thinks. Look,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: it's like when Fanju moved on to it to backer,
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: he never played it before. Really, He's like, I saw
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: some stuff on tape that showed he could probably do it,
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: but you know it would be this good traits, right exactly,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: there's something and you have to have intelligence and Devonte
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: has that. You also have to have someone who's a
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: willing learner and is willing to do it because it's
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: going to be interesting. Getting over to Cookoo Regen at
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: some point. This is only year two. He could be
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: paid after year three. Jeff brought this up when Vic
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: surprised us, because you know, we've put it when he
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: was drafted, we said there the belief that the building
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: was He's only a corner and then he was behind
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: because of Hamster Country and Vic's pulment Nickel, and he
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: was so good he didn't move him back until he
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: set side and base. I don't know if Vic really
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: knows what his position is in the future. What are
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: your thoughts of him? Let's talk about this, Yeah, what
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: is his position? What do you think for Cooper past
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: the season? I view him as a nickel or safety.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: I scattered him as a safety really yeah, with nickel versatility.
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: That's not to say he can't play on the outside
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: because he's a tremendous athlete, has good length, and he's competitive.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I think he can do it with more reps.
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: But I kind of just viewed him the way that
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: he plays and being able to tackle and blitz and
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: all these things.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I think to put him on the outside would be
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: a disservice if you're primarily having him on the boundary.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: But I thought that there was other things that he
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: can do.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: But to go back real quickly to the safety position
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: in general, I want to make this very to those
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: listening in Vick's defense, to be a safety or a
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: linebacker requires considerable responsibility.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: You have to have a high IQ, you have to
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: be versatile, and you have to be able to process
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: things and get guys lined up. So read Blankenship is
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: going to be instrumental in this game if he's able
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: to go, which if you're listening to what Vic had
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: to say earlier, it seems like he's going to be.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that would be his because that changes everything.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: If he's not available, it's a major problem. He literally
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: sets everything up. Yeah, like he's so smart. It's this
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: is what's so funny about Blankenship.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I think he was a five year starter MTS he
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: was Okay, I get he's not fast, so what that
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: doesn't make him draft a ball? How sad?
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: Hard is take been? You should see how many tackles
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: he had. He may have had five hundred tackles in college.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: He's edical teams Andrew It's ridiculous. It's fat scouting. And
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: by the way, I'm gonna give you another our picture
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: on members.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Know this.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: He was on a secondary list. He would you DFA.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: They ran out of safety, so they went to another list.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: He was a guy and you know, whoever liked him,
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how that area. Thank goodness for
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: their sake, but sometimes you get kind of lucky. And
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: this kid, he deserves a better. He got a one
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: year extension a couple of years ago as a token
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: of appreciation.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Not it wasn't a very good deal. He needs to
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: get paid. He's a very good football player, A very
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: good football player. I think he's a little undervalued in
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: the city even but they have some difficult decisions.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: To make and We're not there yet, but Jayalen Philip,
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: three blanket Ship, Nikobe, Dean Jordan, Davis Jordan.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: They don't have to, but they can.
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: They're gonna have to extend Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith. They're
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: gonna have to start considering.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: I would I would be shocked if that happened based
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: on Jalen Phillips right now. Now, I know the last
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: ky wasn't good, but he is a built like Granted,
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: he's everything you want knock on wood, he stays healthy,
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: played for Finja before, super high character. He's like and
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: I was talking to Formagles president Joe Banner today about this,
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: the fact that Howie only give him a third rounder again,
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: he's the funny Vers deal and he's headed injury history with.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: It's so hard to get edge rushers Andrew.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all of a sudden, they went from having major
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Edwin Hursh problems of depth to wow, they have too
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: much depth, Like how does that happen?
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: Well, it's a good problem to have because at one
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: point they had seven edge rushers on the roster and
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: then they were dwindled down to about three and we
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: were wondering how they were gonna line up so you I.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Think ideally, Dick Vangie likes to keep a limited pass
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: rush group. He mentioned before he once went through a
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: season with three with three edge rushers with the forty
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: nine ers. Yep, and I mean, I mean josh Usha
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: who's played By the way they've burned out, I could
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: tell you, I'm gonna give you a nugget here.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: They thought internally back in twenty after that season, they
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: thought one of the problems that happened was in that
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl was that they were so gassed. Now, I
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: you'd have to ask Fanjo. I don't know what the
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: thinking was back then in Jim Harball, I just don't
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: know what their thinking was. I know Vift is brilliant obviously,
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: but they thought they thought that they.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Were a little bit tired. Now there's no reason you
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: can't use that excuse.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Now they're so deep at edge BGA. I know That's
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: why I was gonna You just don't know how many
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: they don't. Do they really need him to play at
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: this point? Maybe maybe not. It's great to have a
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: veteran presidence. He's been there, done, that's a winner, and
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: obviously he's insurance, but he could also could play inside
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: a nickel he played.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: He had a couple of reps I know, so I
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: brought it up.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: By the way, when they start doing that with Schwartze,
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: holy smokes. That took his career to another level. So
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: let's get to the Bears here. We haven't really talked
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: about enough.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts about the Bears? With one four
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: in a row and eight out of nine, what are
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: your thoughts of this football game?
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they have the potential of being an electric offense.
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of Caleb Williams.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: I like the receiving corps with Dj Moore, who might
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: be one of the more underrated Wibers players in the NFL.
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: They have Romadonsay, have Luther Burden, the third out of Missouri.
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: He's an explosive player. They also have a lot many's
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: the keys there, but I think the given the matchup
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: and given where the Eagles are hurt this week and
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: deficient on.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: The back end, this sets up to be a big
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Colston Love one their tight end on in Michigan, and
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: they also.
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: Have Cole Kamet who was their starter. So they have
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: the two tight ends, so why that are available to
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: kind of work the.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Intermediary lot of talent. Brothers. Yeah, it's a heck of
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of talent. The kind of a game, yes,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: I forgot. That's not even to account for DeAndre Swift
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: and Kyle Mnungai. So they have the thunder and lightning there.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: I like their offense defensively, you can get you can
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: get them.
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: But it's not that simple because the Eagles offense are
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: sort of a disarray right now.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: They don't really have a lot of consistency to hang
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: their hat on. But this has to be a game
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: where you get off to a fast start because the
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Bears can put up points.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, Andrew, when I look at this game, the
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Portsbay was seven. It's ridiculous to me, Andrew, I would
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: have the Eagles. My I put a personal line on
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: games I look at, it'll be three and a half,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: same record.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Bears are hot a sack.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: They've shown they can win on the road. Ben Johnson
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: has done a phenomenal job his shod story. Sir Ben
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: Johnson is a super tighte A. What that means is
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: it's got a temper, puts up with nothing. He coaches
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: his players hard and his coaches hard.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: So uh.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Some of the lines told me you won't. It won't
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: be long to see if it's going to work because
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: he won't put up with anything. Either he'll get quick
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: buying or no one will buy him. They've had a
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: tremendous buy in. Oh yeah, I mean he's look that
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: you got to give Ryan Paul's the GM from Boston College.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: There his respect, put together good roster. I think defensively,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: I totally agree with you. They can get God like
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: they equals to get him. But I'm telling you right now,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: Patulo and Siriannie have to get Hurts up to a
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: good start, get him in a rhythm, don't skip steps.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: That's what happened. That is to me to the blueprint,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: get it out of his hands quickly and get him confident.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: And homecoming for former Eagles safety CJ. Gardner Johnson, he's
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: gonna have a lot of gus, that's right.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: And I would not be surprised if they find a
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: way to turn him loose as a blitzer and they
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: know him and he is the name for sacks three
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: I think his first two games. Yeah, so first two
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: or three, it's it's it's absolute. Say he's gonna be
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: bouncing around.
• 1:01:23
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