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Fred Pry: Reaching More Children With The Gospel Of Jesus Christ · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Friends, family and Christ, welcome to another podcast.
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  We appreciate you so very much.
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  Today we're going to talk about something very important that is the gospel and children.
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  One thing that could change America, if we're here long enough and the Lord doesn't return
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  first, is reaching the children with the gospel of Jesus Christ and discipling so that they
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  can go out and reach others, and this country will change if we, if given enough time.
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  That's what we're going to focus on because I was talking with our guests before we got
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  on the air today, how the enemy uses ways access to children.
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  Younger and younger ages, we've been talking about that in different news stories.
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  Well, child evangelism fellowship has a goal to reach 35 million children this year.
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  CEF, it's an international organization.
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  The website is cefonline.com and we've got Fred Pry from CEF here.
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  He became a career missionary 20 years ago for child evangelism fellowship.
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  After 25 years in the business world, he started directing a local chapter in Pennsylvania
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  that led to an appointment as the state director of Virginia, followed by joining the staff
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  at CEF International Headquarters.
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  And he was invited to lead USA ministries.
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  And since 2024, now he's been serving as vice president of administration and providing
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  further leadership to child evangelism fellowships executive staff.
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  And Pry, welcome to World View Matters.
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  Thanks for your time today.
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  That's so good to be with you in your listeners.
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  Well, you wouldn't be doing this if you didn't have a heart for the gospel and children.
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  What came first?
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  Was it both for you to get involved with CEF?
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  Well, for me, I became a follower of Christ at the age of nine.
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  So it was all about the gospel for me personally.
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  But then, of course, when you start having kids and a family man married, have four children,
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  now I have four grandchildren.
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  And you realize the importance of the gospel because it only, it really only has the answers
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  to life that anyone is searching for.
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  The world doesn't provide it.
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  There are no answers in our world.
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  They promise a lot of things, but they don't deliver.
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  The one thing that delivers day in and day out is the good news of Jesus Christ and
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  a relationship with him.
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  Amen, brother.
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  And it's so needed, as I was mentioning before we brought you on, that this country could
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  change if given enough time.
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  I just don't think we've been patient enough.
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  I don't think we've had the focus on children.
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  But would you care to speak to for a moment the fact that there is spiritual warfare involved
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  and the enemy accesses kids?
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  The enemy is making disciples.
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  We're supposed to make disciples for Jesus, for the biblical worldview.
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  If the enemy is done, I don't want to give Satan credit, but he uses minions.
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  He uses people to disciple, to recruit young children, and it's been tragic to see what's
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  been happening in our country over the past several decades.
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  Oh, absolutely.
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  You know, when you just look at the media, the media can be used for good, it can be used
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  for evil.
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  And of course, many uses are happening around the world.
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  Of course, our children are being influenced by media more and more.
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  And I'm talking about the internet, specifically, because kids have access to that where they
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  didn't before.
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  And so it's very, very important for parents to stay diligent, to stay aware, to be engaged
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  with what their children are saying, because the enemy is there.
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  And the enemy seeks to, what does he, what does he seek to do to kill and destroy?
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  That's what he wants to do.
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  He wants to do.
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  He wants to get to kill and destroy.
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  And that starts it.
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  If he can destroy a kid's life, a child's life, when they're young, to they get to, they
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  get to the point of being older, they feel like they have no hope.
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  And so it's, it just shows the importance of reaching them at younger and younger ages.
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  So friends, C E F is on Facebook, Twitter, X, Instagram, and of course, the website
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  again, C E F online dot com Fred.
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  I didn't realize, I knew you guys were in all 50 states.
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  And in most countries, by the way, around the world.
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  But I didn't realize how big C E F is becoming or has become 3,600 paid staff and tens
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  of thousands of volunteers around the world.
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  That's amazing.
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  And it's been around since, was it 1937?
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  Yes, 1937.
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  So it's been 88 years.
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  And you know, it's a testament to God's faithfulness to people that are committed to doing his
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  work, that are called to do his work.
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  We believe that's why God has blessed over these years.
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  Yes, it began in small places, but it has grown here in the United States.
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  And then I believe our first missionaries that we sent out went to Mexico.
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  And then it's just continued to grow and grow ever since.
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  And God is doing a work worldwide through C E F.
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  And he deserves all the credit.
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  We just are instruments.
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  We are clay in the potter's hands.
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  And he is, he is sought for people that have his heart like he, like he sought out David
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  because of his heart.
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  He's looking for people like that as well.
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  And God is blessed.
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  It were, we're reaching this past year.
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  And I shouldn't say this past year because I know we're in 25, but in 23, 25.2 million
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  boys and girls reached in face to face ministry and another 4 million through our digital
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  ministries and literature.
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  And so we just praise God for what he's been doing and allowing us to reach these vulnerable
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  in our society.
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  So Fred, we're going to talk about some of the ministries of C E F, good news clubs,
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  five day clubs, some others.
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  But what was the first, what, what really got childy evangelism fellowship going?
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  How do they start?
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  Sure.
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  So we affectionately call this gentleman Mr. Oh, it's Jay Irvin overholtzer, I call him
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  Mr. Oh for, of course, apparent reasons overholtzer, but yeah, overholtzer, yes, he, he didn't
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  believe children could be saved initially.
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  He was a pastor, didn't believe it, and he started reading Spurgeon and Moody and others
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  and reading their writings and understanding that that's not what he believes.
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  So he decided to do a quick test.
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  He led several children to the Lord, but didn't tell anybody.
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  He walked him through the gospel, we just explained the gospel the best way he could.
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  And he just sat back and waited to see what would happen.
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  And one of the mothers came to him at a service that he was speaking in and said, what did
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  you do to my two little girls?
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  And that was the beginning because that mother saw the difference that was noticeable.
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  It was evident and he hadn't said anything to that mother, but the mother noticed a difference
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  because the Holy Spirit had entered that life and changed those two children.
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  And that was the beginning of our ministry.
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  Wow.
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  So now let's talk about something that allow them to think a lot of even Christians are
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  not aware of that you are allowed to use the public school facilities to bring in good
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  news clubs.
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  And you mentioned before we got on the air, some kids go before school and then they have
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  after school clubs, after hours, on the school facilities, you think, well, you know, because
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  we've thought God's taken out completely.
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  We can't use our tax dollars are paying for them.
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  They better allow us to use the school facilities.
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  Tell us about the good news clubs and how that works.
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  Sure.
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  The good news club, especially those that are meeting in the public school after school,
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  it's a powerful program because many of those boys and girls, in fact, our statistics
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  show that more than 50% of those children that attend a school-based good news club don't
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  attend any church anywhere for any reason.
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  And so it's a powerful place to share the gospel, the good news with children who otherwise
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  wouldn't come to know the gospel because they're not walking into our churches.
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  So it's a great place to go and God has opened that door for us to do that here in America.
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  It is something that has been supported by the Supreme Court over and over and over again.
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  We have found over and over again.
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  Now do we have to continue to fight for that right?
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  With some school districts, absolutely.
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  I just want to case recently in the state of Hawaii and Liberty Council is a great partner
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  with CEF and they've never lost one of our cases because to open that door.
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  And yet the schools keep trying to do it.
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  But yes, we do have the right to be there and God is blessing.
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  And God's using it.
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  And there is such an intolerance to the biblical worldview and that's just grown.
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  But there's also an ignorance too, particularly when it comes to the First Amendment and religious
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  freedom.
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  And like you said, the school, the good news clubs and schools.
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  What else would I see?
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  We have a couple, we have several more minutes now.
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  Let's talk about how people can find out if there's a chapter in their area.
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  Sure.
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  Just go under our website, CEFOnline.com.
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  And if you go to the Ministries tab, which is right at the top of the page.
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  And at the top of the page, when you click on that, just quickly scroll to the bottom of
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  the page.
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  And there you will find a section that says, find a chapter near you.
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  And that's where you can type in, you can go there, you can type in your zip code.
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  And it'll pull up the closest CEF office and we have CEF offices in every state around
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  this country.
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  So you can find an office close to you and you can get involved locally.
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  Awesome.
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  And again, friends, I mentioned the social media for Child Evangelism Fellowship, Facebook,
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  Netflix, YouTube and Instagram.
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  So the next one would be the 5-day club, Summers.
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  You said this has been going on way before you even got involved with CEF.
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  So Fred, tell us about the 5-day clubs and how parents can get maybe their kids involved.
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  Sure.
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  5-day clubs basically happen right in the community.
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  They happen in people's backyards and homes and garages on the back porch, on the back deck.
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  Wherever you can gather a group of children together, that's where we want to reach
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  them with the gospel.
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  And so they operate there, but they operate in community centers as well in parks.
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  Of course, if the weather's great, that's a great place to conduct it.
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  And these are going on around the country.
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  We have people that are preparing to be trained.
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  We have young people that are going to be prepared to be trained.
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  They're going to go to what we call Christian Youth and Action Training School.
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  And that's where they will learn and learn all the little things that we employ to effectively
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  share the gospel with boys and girls.
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  And then they go out.
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  And I tell you, it's an amazing thing to watch.
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  These teenagers and young adults actually teaching the children, the children love them.
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  They look up to them.
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  In fact, I've heard this many, many times.
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  I want to be just like them when I grow up.
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  Wow.
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  Now granted, I love when adults teach children too.
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  And that's important as well.
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  But to see these young people, these teenagers, on fire for the Lord, and to see that demonstrated
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  to children, it's a powerful thing.
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  And it's so great because it's not just fun and games.
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  It is Bible-based truth coming right from God's Word in an exciting way that children
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  just love to attend.
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  They can involve in learning activities, just fun.
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  And it's a great time that summer isn't wasted.
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  It's a time for the scripture, for God to work as well.
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  That's awesome.
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  And on that same page under global impact, under the 5-day club, it says, teachers trained
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  and the number is 577,000.
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  Wow.
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  I know you guys have been at this for a while.
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  That's wonderful.
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  So, Fred, if someone wants to volunteer or at least get more information, I'm sure there's
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  getting involved.
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  Would that be the tab to go to on the website?
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  Yeah, that would give you a couple of different options.
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  So yeah, visit our website.
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  You can learn a lot more about the ministry.
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  In fact, that's what I would like to tell your listeners.
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  We could present it with a lot of good things.
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  And we are all, as believers, called to the Great Commission, to fulfill the Great Commission.
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  But we all don't have the same calling, specific calling, like what do we do?
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  So I encourage people, first to know about CEF, to visit the website, learn all you can,
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  then so know, pray, give, and go.
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  So the praying part is, God, is this where you want me to serve?
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  Is this what you've called me to?
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  Is this what you prepared me for?
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  People are wondering many times, how do I fulfill the Great Commission?
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  How God's called me, but I don't know where, you know, attending church is one thing,
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  but getting involved like, what do I do?
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  How do I fulfill the Great Commission to go and tell people?
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  So I say, pray about that.
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  Is this where God's calling you?
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  Maybe it is.
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  And maybe it's, he yes, get involved.
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  This is a great ministry.
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  There's a great return on investment, but maybe it leads to giving.
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  Maybe it's, okay, I can't go.
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  I don't have the ability to go.
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  It doesn't work in my schedule, in my family situation, whatever.
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  But I can support those that will go.
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  I can support sharing the gospel with boys and girls.
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  So to pray, give, or excuse me, no pray, give, and then go.
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  So if God's calling you to go, absolutely get involved, contact your local office, get
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  involved somewhere, get trained, and we train people.
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  You mentioned that over half a million teachers trained in a year.
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  That's not, that's not over several years.
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  That's one year.
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  Oh my goodness.
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  You just praise God for what he's doing.
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  Wow.
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  That is, well, praise God.
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  We're right with you on that.
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  And they've got their Facebook page.
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  They've got a little video on Unite.
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  We'll talk about that when we come back from our break with Fred Pry and friends again,
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  it's a nonprofit.
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  The website is c-e-f-online.com We'll be right back on World of View Matters.
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  So we're speaking with Fred Pry here, Child Evangelism Fellowship, and I definitely want
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  to get to the, I have to, I love Christmas, got to get to the Christmas Party Club.
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  But first, what is Unite, Unite platforms?
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  So our Unite platform is a platform design, it's a safe platform design just for, just
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  for children.
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  Now do teenagers go there?
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  Yeah, there are some do adults go there?
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  Yes, parents go there.
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  But primarily it's designed for children.
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  There's, there's all kinds of things, there's, there's song videos there, Christian
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  song videos that teach, not just a fun, cute Christian song, but it's a song that has
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  a message and it reinforces the truth of God's work.
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  And then there's, there are all kinds of shorts, what we call shorts.
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  There are just short videos, animated videos that are there for the children.
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  Plus there's, there's actually full length movies there.
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  We've partnered with the Jesus film project, a Jesus film for children.
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  It's on there and many other things as well, many, from many other partners that we, we
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  join with to, again, to get the gospel, the good news out to boys and girls that won't
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  come to our face-to-face ministry, so there we don't have access to.
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  And the exciting part is this isn't just US-based, it is US-based, excuse me, but it is reaching
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  children around the world.
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  In fact, some of the largest populations of children visiting our Unite platform are coming
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  out of Africa.
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  And it's just amazing to see what God is doing.
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  Wow, that's exciting.
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  And I was really thrilled to see this on your website, military children's ministry.
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  Talk to us about that for a moment.
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  Sure.
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  MCM is just a focus of our ministry.
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  We realize that these boys and girls move every two to three years with their parents.
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  And they feel disconnected often.
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  And so this is a great way as we get into more and more military installations with good
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  news club, five day clubs, children can move and still have that familiar hourty of people
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  that love and care for them in the ministry that's going on in the military installation
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  nearest to them.
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  But this is a great, I think we're over 30 installations right now.
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  It's just amazing what God is doing, how he's reaching these children.
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  And these are, these are scared children.
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  Their parents are serving the military some in very dangerous locations.
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  And they live with this constant fear of it's my mom or my dad not coming home.
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  And this is a way that we can really disciple them, build into them, have them have a relationship
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  with Christ, you know, introduce them to Christ where they can have the confidence that
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  God will never leave them no matter if a parent is deployed or not.
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  By the way, if you click on MCM on your website, there's an interactive map there on installations
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  across the country and it looks like if every one of those green, red or blue dots are
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  one of these installations, it looks like it's closer to 40 or more, wow, there's just
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  a lot.
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  So that's, that's really good.
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  So the green ones are actually where we're currently in, and I believe the red ones if
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  I remember, there's a key there, but if, if I believe, I believe the red ones are target
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  or the blues target, I'm not sure, but you can look there and you can learn, hey, am I,
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  am I near one?
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  And by the way, people can get volunteered, volunteered to serve in the, in those as
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  well, you have to jump through a few extra hoops because you actually get on these installations.
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  So you have to be fingerprinted and do some other things to get there, but that's what
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  our ministry can help, especially people that have served in a military, you know, what
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  it's like.
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  And so to ministering to those boys and girls is so impactful for them because they were
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  once there.
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  That's awesome.
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  So Fred, now, Mary Christmas, is it too early to say Mary Christmas for the rest of
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  it anyway?
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  So let's talk about it.
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  I think it's Christmas all the time.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, you know what?
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  It's the true story of Christmas.
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  It's, it never changes.
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  That means Jesus did become flesh, dwelt among us and, you know, that's the story.
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  Praise God.
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  What's a Christmas party club?
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  You said this is relatively new to C E F.
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  Yes.
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  As far as a primary ministry, yes, we've always done party clubs, but this has really become
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  a focus of our ministry.
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  It opens the door.
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  Kids love Christmas, number one, around the world.
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  That's universal.
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  No matter what religion you may ascribe to, they all know what Christmas is.
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  And now some families, of course, may not entertain or may not decorate or may not
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  do some of the things, but everybody knows what Christmas is.
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  And so it's a great opportunity to have a Christmas party club, which is just a one-time
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  event.
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  It's an evangelistic event that will share the gospel with a Christmas theme.
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  And many times it's introducing boys and girls to the Christ of Christmas for the first
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  time.
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  It's not all about presents.
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  It's about the Christ of Christmas.
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  And so that's, it's a great time to do that.
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  We even do this in what we call sensitive countries that I can't name the country.
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  We call them red countries.
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  So because it's dangerous to do ministry there, but we do them there.
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  And we do a special type of story that's usually a child-based story, but the gospel was
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  included because the child comes to know what the gospel is in the story.
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  And they come to believe Christ as Savior, believe in Him and trust Him as Christ as Savior.
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  So we use a child's story to give the gospel in those sensitive areas.
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  Oh my goodness.
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  I'm glad you're reaching children and using the Christmas party club to do that.
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  But when you said, you know, it's not about presents.
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  I mean, there's a lot of adults that don't know the true story of what Christmas means.
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  And they think it's about presents.
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  But it's not about receiving presents, but the gift, the God's free gift to us of salvation
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  through Christ.
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  That is a present, I guess you could say, but we call it a free gift.
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  But some people think, oh, it's all about giving and whatever.
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  But it is about His presence in our lives, right?
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  So Fred, we're down to about five minutes.
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  Is there anything you wanted to share that we didn't cover yet that you want to talk
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  about child evangelism fellowship?
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  I would just share with your listeners, you know, it's exciting to see what God has been
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  doing in CF over these 88 years.
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  And we, as an organization, we have a president who is committed to doing more.
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  And we believe we're called to reach more and more children around the world.
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  And the reason I bring that up is because in 2023, we reached 25.2 million boys and girls.
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  And I share that number before we believe God wants us to continue to see that grow because
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  there are 8 billion people in this world.
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  And I believe it's two, three billion, two and a half billion children in this world.
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  And we want to see more and more than come to know Christ.
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  So our goal in the next few years, and we'll say 10 or 12 or 15, because we know God is
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  about this work.
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  And we're just following him.
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  But we would like to reach 100 million boys and girls every single year.
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  And of course, increase that in the future.
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  But right now, I can say this, the numbers not published yet.
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  So I have to be very careful in 2024.
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  We grew from that 25.2.
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  So I can't tell you that number because we keep that for a very special occasion.
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  But it did grow in our goal this year in 2025 is 35 million boys and girls.
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  And so we really want to, we're working hard, we want to grow the ministry.
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  And I would just say people pray for us, get involved, get to know the ministry.
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  Give if you can, it's a wonderful way to get the gospel.
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  fulfill the great commission before the Lord does return.
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  So Fred, before we let you go, I want to get back to the good news clubs
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  for a minute and talk about the public schools.
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  What a fertile ground, what, what an environment for where evangelism is needed
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  and the gospel is needed desperately.
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  How can maybe parents find out if there's a club that meets at their local school?
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  Or do you, do some parents have Christian kids and have them attend?
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  You know what I mean?
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  If they're already Christian, I just tell us a little bit more about that.
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  Oh, absolutely.
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  It's a great place for children to be further discipled.
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  Of course, even if they're going to church maybe once, you know, on the weekend.
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  I mean, that's great.
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  But this is a great place, especially good news club because it meets once every week as well
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  and really supports what the church is already doing, what the parents are doing at home.
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  Plus, yeah, hopefully, plus we encourage in our good news clubs, we have wonder devotional
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  books.
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  We encourage the child to spend time with God every single day as a good habit for life
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  because that's where the joy comes in walking with the Lord is as we spend time with him
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  every day.
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  We don't ignore him.
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  We spend time with him.
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  So we teach boys and girls to do that and what that means is reading his word, praying,
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  talking to him, allow him to speak to you and then being a witness to others as well
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  as what God is teaching you.
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  And so really discipling them.
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  It's a great place for boys and girls to be discipled.
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  So good news club is a powerful place for discipleship and it's a great place for Christian
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  kids to attend.
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  Plus, they can be the catalyst for inviting friends who are unsaved in their schools to
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  come to school.
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  So it's a great place for that to happen as well.
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  Yeah, so friends, again, you can go to C-E-F-Online.com and you can find out if there's anything near
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  you, find a local chapter by going down to the bottom and there's a yellow button that
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  says USA, click on that and then you can enter in a search or just scroll down and find
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  your state.
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  But very important, that's why we wanted to have Fred come on today.
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  So we're very thankful for your time, thankful for all you've been doing.
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  So again, you've been with C-E-F-How many years?
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  It's over 20, right?
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  Yeah, it's 22 now.
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  22 years.
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  Wow, appreciate all the work you're doing.
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  Your staff is growing and so is your influence.
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  And as the gospel needs to get out there, we're thankful for your ministry brother.
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  And again, friends, it's non-profit.
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  So you can give if God puts that in your heart, go to the website and just scroll around
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  and get more information on C-E-F.
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  Thank you for your time today, Fred.
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  Oh, it's been my privilege.
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  All right, praise God.
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  It's so exciting.
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  This is encouraging just to hear about the work that they're doing and how they're reaching
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  children and by the numbers too.
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  It's really surprising because we tend to see all the garbage that's going on in America
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  in our culture and around the country, but we forget that there are active ministries,
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  great men and women of God that are teaching and training the youth and getting out there
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  and the gospel is getting out.
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  Thank you, Jesus.
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  Friends, thank you for sharing the podcast.
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  God bless you.
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  And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.