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Signs of the Imminent Rapture | L.A. Marzulli | The Week in Bible Prophecy | Repost · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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Speaker 2: Hello, I'm Gary Steerman and this is Prophecy Watchers. With
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Speaker 2: me today is La mar Zuli, one of my favorite people.
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Speaker 1: Hi La, Hi Gary, Thanks for having me on. And
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Speaker 1: you're one of my favorite people too. Always great to
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Speaker 1: see you know, see and hear you. And you know
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Speaker 1: we talk often on the phone. Most people don't realize that,
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Speaker 1: but every couple of weeks we're have a little half
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Speaker 1: hour forty five minute update on things, and I always
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Speaker 1: look forward to those.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot to talk about, as you know only
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Speaker 2: too well. Today I want to talk about the level
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Speaker 2: of conversation that I'm seeing concerning the rapture of the church.
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Speaker 2: You know, for years and years we've talked about the
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Speaker 2: rapture of the church, but it's getting a little different
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Speaker 2: these days, right, I would say so.
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Speaker 1: I mean, people are starting to wonder whether we're in
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Speaker 1: the time that the Bible talks about. And I mean
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Speaker 1: you and I have talked about this again off the record,
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Speaker 1: and I think we're closer than that. And most people
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Speaker 1: would think I think it's really close. I really do.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's as the Bible states, the rapture. The
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Speaker 2: world will not really understand what's going on, and the
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Speaker 2: rapture is presented as a mystery. But behold, I show
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Speaker 2: you a mystery. We shall not all sleep. And then
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Speaker 2: it goes on from there, and we all know the
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Speaker 2: words that follow. But you know, have you ever seen
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Speaker 2: so many books on the rapture of the church in
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Speaker 2: print as we have right now? It's amazing.
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Speaker 1: The excitement well, and I think the excitement is justified
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Speaker 1: for those of us who believe in the biblical prophetic narrative.
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Speaker 1: And we look at what's going on, wars and rumors
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Speaker 1: of wars, famines, pestilence, earthquakes in diverse places, trouble, sometimes
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Speaker 1: the advent of Ai to the point where you don't
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Speaker 1: know what you're looking at is real or fabricated. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Israel's back in the Home Man nineteen forty eight. That
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Speaker 1: starts to profetic clock ticking. Most of us know that
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Speaker 1: Amos nine, fourteen and fifteen, I will bring back the
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Speaker 1: captains of my people Israel. And the reason why I
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Speaker 1: want to say that is because so much of a
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Speaker 1: church is a millennial of a new pope, God bless him,
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Speaker 1: but he's a millennial. And this is why the whole
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Speaker 1: idea of replacement theology. Well, if the Bible is true,
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Speaker 1: then how do we square Amos nine fourteen and fifteen.
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Speaker 1: I was on recently with a person who was very
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Speaker 1: anti Semitic, very anti Israel, and I just said, and
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Speaker 1: they profess to be a Christian, who knows whether they
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Speaker 1: were or not? I said, well, how do you square
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Speaker 1: Amos nine fourteen and fifteen? Where Amos nine fourteen and
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Speaker 1: fifteen states this, I will bring back the captains of
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Speaker 1: my people Israel. Check. They will build the way cities
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Speaker 1: and inhabit them. Check. They will plant venues, drink the
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Speaker 1: wine from them. Check. They will also plant guards and
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Speaker 1: eat the fruit from them. Check check jack. Check. And
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Speaker 1: here's the kicker. I will plant them in their land,
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Speaker 1: and never again will they be plucked up out of
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Speaker 1: a land I have given them. There's no way around that.
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Speaker 1: There's no wiggle room. You can say, well, that really happened.
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Speaker 1: And you know when Babylonian captivity nonsense, This is it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they were displaced from their home land for
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Speaker 1: almost two thousand years. They've rebuilt away cities, there are vineyards.
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Speaker 1: They are in their land. Never again, are they going
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Speaker 1: to get plucked up? And Jerusalem is certainly a cup
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Speaker 1: of trembling to the whole world. So I'd like to
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Speaker 1: hear your comment. Oh no, the current state of upheaval
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Speaker 1: in the world today, if you put your little pin
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Speaker 1: right in the middle of Jerusalem, you know, and then
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Speaker 1: pull a string around Jerusalem, You've got a world full
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Speaker 1: of conflict right now, economic conflict, military conflict, technological conflict.
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Speaker 1: And on the horizon is ai. I don't know about you,
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Speaker 1: but I'm hearing the experts now say saying things like,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm afraid of a I work with it,
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Speaker 1: and I don't like the direction it's.
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Speaker 2: Going right now. So what I'm saying here is the
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Speaker 2: world is not stabilizing. It's destabilizing on just about every level.
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Speaker 2: And that's exactly the environment described at the time of
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Speaker 2: the rapture. And when you when you look about look
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Speaker 2: at scripture on the rapture, you run into that kind
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Speaker 2: of societal upheaval.
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Speaker 1: You know. At the Property Watches conference, I did a
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Speaker 1: presentation basically, you know, how do you how do we
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Speaker 1: get to a one world government or one more religious system?
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Speaker 1: And I and I use Toynbee a noted historian of
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Speaker 1: the last century, twentieth century, and Toynbe and Toybe's right. History.
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Speaker 1: You know, empires rise, empires fall. It seems to be cyclical,
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Speaker 1: and I understand that, and I agree with them. But
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Speaker 1: what Twinsy didn't factor in is the biblical prophetic narrative.
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Speaker 1: Because the Bible's prophecy, the historicity of the Bible, the
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Speaker 1: threat from Genesis to Revelation, it's not cyclical. It talks
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Speaker 1: about a climax, and that climax, the first one is
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Speaker 1: the birth of Messiah, and of course his death and
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Speaker 1: resurrection on Calvary almost two thousand years ago. But the
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Speaker 1: big one we're all waiting for is the Second Coming.
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Speaker 1: History is climactic and that's where we're headed up to.
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Speaker 1: So everything is ramping up to the Second Coming, but
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Speaker 1: before that, the rapture of the church. We go up,
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Speaker 1: they come down, We go up, they show up.
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Speaker 2: Now I'm looking at the first Essenonians five and the
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Speaker 2: third verse. We all know this, but I want your reaction,
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Speaker 2: given what's going on right now, For when they shall
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Speaker 2: say peace and safety, then sudden destruction comes upon them,
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Speaker 2: as true hail upon a woman with child the birth pangs,
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Speaker 2: of course, but ye brethren, are not in darkness that
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Speaker 2: that day should overtake you as a thief. So biblically speaking,
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Speaker 2: the rapture is always embedded in the scenario of global revolution.
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Speaker 2: And so let's talk about what's going on right now.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's in some ways it's unprecedented, and there
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be any release. I mean, I have
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Speaker 1: a good friend of mine. We talk, we text each
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Speaker 1: other at least once twice, three times a day, and he's,
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Speaker 1: you know, in some sort of an agency, which I
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Speaker 1: don't know which, but he's he's got his pulse on
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Speaker 1: what's going on on a global level, and he's you know,
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Speaker 1: he feeds me information. Nothing is classified, nothing like that.
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Speaker 1: But he's just got a real bird's eye view of
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Speaker 1: the world and what's going on. Well, you start walking
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Speaker 1: through it, you know, after right after the election, you know,
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Speaker 1: things seemed to calm down a little bit. Now all
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Speaker 1: hell's breaking loose. Trump has not solved through Russia Ukrainian
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Speaker 1: conflict in twenty four hours. Zelenski was made a fool
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Speaker 1: out of you know that that conflict, the meat grinder
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Speaker 1: where soldiers from both sides go in. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: they're just blown the pieces. Now we've got Israel still
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Speaker 1: fighting a seven front war, and the player to watch,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, is Turkey. The player to watch his Turkey.
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Speaker 1: Erewan has stated on the record where he plays prays
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Speaker 1: to Allah and says, oh Allah, you know, destroy the Zionists,
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Speaker 1: destroy Israel. That's his heart, that's what he wants to see,
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Speaker 1: that's what that's his belief system, that's his that's his
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Speaker 1: core belief system, that's his you know, motives of operenda.
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Speaker 1: That's where and who would have imagined Assad, you know,
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Speaker 1: fleeing to Russia for his life and then the genocide
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Speaker 1: that follows. We don't hear a word one about it.
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Speaker 1: You still don't hear a word about the genocide going
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Speaker 1: on in Syria where thousands of Christians and Drews have
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Speaker 1: been killed. So, I mean, you can start going around
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Speaker 1: the globe and just recently, you know, Israel's fighting a
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Speaker 1: seven front war. And my friends said, well that's sort
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Speaker 1: of calmed down. Nonsense. It hasn't calmed down at all.
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Speaker 1: You know, the Whusi's are going at it. Egypt has
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Speaker 1: militarized it all on the border you know, you've got Iraq,
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Speaker 1: You've got Iran, You've got the USIS, which I've already mentioned,
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Speaker 1: You've got the Palestadians, you've got Hajmas, you've got who
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Speaker 1: knows what's in Syria, You've got Turkey, and of course
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Speaker 1: Iran is you know, fueling all of this. And Iran,
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Speaker 1: I believe, is that far away from actually acquiring a nuke.
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Speaker 2: And this all happening in the shadow of nineteen thirty eight.
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Speaker 2: And when you go to Israel, of course, God by
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Speaker 2: Sham the memorial to the horrific to horrific way that
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Speaker 2: Israel was treated. We all remember that, you know, thousands
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Speaker 2: of feet of movie reel back in the day showing
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Speaker 2: unspeakable travesties against the Jewish people, and then the miracle
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Speaker 2: of their return to the land and statehood in nineteen
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Speaker 2: forty eight, and everybody said, oh never again, Israel is
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Speaker 2: just home free. Nothing's going to happen. They're okay, And
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Speaker 2: guess what, something's happening.
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Speaker 1: And of course you're referring to October seventh. I was
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Speaker 1: at the Prophecy Watchers conference on October seventh, and I
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Speaker 1: was slated. Peggy and I were slated to fly into
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Speaker 1: Tel Aviv the next day. That's what, and Bob alric
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Speaker 1: are good friend. Bob gets on the phone at six
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Speaker 1: o'clock Israel's at war. I go what. And by eight
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Speaker 1: thirty we had canceled our conference. And I won't take
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Speaker 1: a busload of people into a war zone. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I just won't do it. So we have not and
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering whether I'll ever see Israel again because all
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Speaker 1: of this. You know, we could be that close to
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Speaker 1: the rapture of a church and I've been there once
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Speaker 1: and I was hoping to go back again every year,
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't right now, it's not in the cards.
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Speaker 1: So you know, this whole thing. October seventh, they started it.
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Speaker 1: And again I had a conversation with someone who was
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Speaker 1: very anti Semitic and everything else. So somehow it's okay
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Speaker 1: for Hamas to do a surprise attack, kill twelve hundred people,
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Speaker 1: slaughter them in the most unspeakable ways you can think of.
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Speaker 1: And I won't even discuss some of the ways have
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Speaker 1: Actually I will because I'm going to give you just
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Speaker 1: one example of the kind of atrocities that were committed
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Speaker 1: which our goofy mainstream media never talks about. And somehow
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Speaker 1: all the anti Semites never never focus in on. There's
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Speaker 1: a there's a torture. It's it's called the flaming necklace.
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Speaker 1: And what it is, I believe it's a flaming necklace.
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Speaker 1: But what this is is they take a tire and
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Speaker 1: and you're you know, you're tied up. They take a
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Speaker 1: tire and they put it over your head and the
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Speaker 1: inner side of a tire they fill with gasoline and
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Speaker 1: then they light it. It's a fire necklace, that's what
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Speaker 1: it's called. It's a fire necklace.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: And and you burn to death in absolute agony, in agony.
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Speaker 1: No one reports on that. We do, we're talking about
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Speaker 1: it here. So the level of atrocity is And and
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Speaker 1: by the way, the hostages are still there. I mean
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Speaker 1: when when they when they cart it out, when they
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Speaker 1: exchange the hostages, the two dead babies that they bought out,
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Speaker 1: the Hamas cheered because you know, we we killed these
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Speaker 1: two little babies. I mean, you know, it's it's and
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Speaker 1: this goes back and I just want to get into
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Speaker 1: this real quickly. Gaza was a Nepheline stronghold and Gaza
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Speaker 1: was never conquered by Joshua and Caleb. It says right
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Speaker 1: in the word that we left this. They left. They
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Speaker 1: didn't go into Gaza, goth Ascalon and Gaza's We're all
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Speaker 1: the trouble. And I'm not accusing the so called Palestine
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Speaker 1: andrew Hamas of being Nephilim or anything like that. What
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Speaker 1: I am saying is that territorial spirit has reigned over
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Speaker 1: that and the unmitigated hatred of this tiny little country
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Speaker 1: makes no sense at all. It makes no sense, and
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Speaker 1: yet it's there and it's not going on.
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Speaker 2: Well. As you know, I have been reading the minor
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Speaker 2: prophets rather assiduously lately, because they are coming awake. For
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Speaker 2: years we didn't look at the minor prophets. But a
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Speaker 2: while back I took note of profits zephy and Iyah.
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Speaker 2: And you know my reaction, the reaction I got when
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Speaker 2: I talk to people, well, who reads Zephaniah, Well, I
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Speaker 2: do now because ash and Iah just happened to be
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Speaker 2: talking about in Cephni nine. This is in the context
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Speaker 2: that the day of the Lord is near. It is
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Speaker 2: very near, and Inepni one nine. In the same day,
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Speaker 2: I will punish those that leap on the threshold which
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Speaker 2: fill their master's houses with violence and deceit. And this
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Speaker 2: is then goes on to describe a latter day attack
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Speaker 2: on Israel, and you go down to verse four in
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Speaker 2: a chapter two and it says, for Goza shall be forsaken,
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Speaker 2: Ashkalon a desolation. They shall drive out Ashdot at noonday
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Speaker 2: Ekron shall be rooted up. WHOA get this? This is
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Speaker 2: a whoe onto the inhabitants of the sea coast, the
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Speaker 2: nation of the Cheraphytes. And this is talking about Gaza
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Speaker 2: attacking Israel in the latter days. And the word charify
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Speaker 2: it's kera team in Hebrew means the lowest of the
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Speaker 2: low Cretan savages. And here in verse five the inhabitants
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Speaker 2: of the sea coast, the nation of the Karra team
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Speaker 2: that is. And another way you can can translate this
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Speaker 2: is running assassins. And there you have it. So I
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Speaker 2: read this a while back, and it has then moved
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Speaker 2: me to other places in the Old Testament to talk
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Speaker 2: about what's going to happen to regathered Israel in the
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Speaker 2: latter days. In La, I'm finding all sorts of indicators
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Speaker 2: that were very close, I would agree.
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Speaker 1: And you know you mentioned Ai previously but then you
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Speaker 1: look at what scripture says, and this is just the
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Speaker 1: thing he start for where to begin? I mean, as
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Speaker 1: a student in the of biblical prophecy, you know, you
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Speaker 1: and I and others of our ilk we've been looking
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Speaker 1: at this and walking in it, examining, watching carefully, looking
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Speaker 1: at scriptures, wondering, weighing prophecy. And I've said this public
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Speaker 1: and I'll say it again. We are at the point
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Speaker 1: where you can't fix this anymore. You cannot fix this anymore.
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Speaker 1: And you mentioned AI. How do you know what you're
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Speaker 1: looking at is real? Someone sent me a a Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump AI video, but you don't know it's a Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: You know it's Trump and he's in the Oval Office,
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Speaker 1: and it looks one hundred percent reel one and ten
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Speaker 1: percent reel, and it's talking about Building seven and all
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Speaker 1: this stuff. And then at the very end of the
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Speaker 1: clip it goes, you know, this was AI too good
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Speaker 1: to be true? You know that type of thing. So
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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know. I mean Mondo Gonzalez, co
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Speaker 1: host of Prophecy Watchers, at the last conference, did a
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Speaker 1: little little spiel where Donald Trump was talking about Mondo
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Speaker 1: Gonzalez and we all laughed and we all chuckled. But
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Speaker 1: here's where it gets. Where it gets evil and pernicious.
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Speaker 1: You can use AI to create the most vile, obscene
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Speaker 1: clip of you or me or Mondo or anybody. And
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Speaker 1: how do you defend against that? Oh I didn't say that. Well,
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Speaker 1: we have it right here here it is. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know, even the people who now are working on
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Speaker 2: AARI are becoming afraid of what it's doing. I've heard
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Speaker 2: several of them speaking lately, and then they're saying, we
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Speaker 2: really don't know how this is going to turn out.
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Speaker 2: In a sense, AI is creating itself. And you know,
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Speaker 2: if this isn't Antichrist stuff, I don't know what is.
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Speaker 2: Because the whole world's going to be controlled by some
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Speaker 2: kind of system. And may I suggest AI, and may
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Speaker 2: I suggest that before that happens, that you're which is
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Speaker 2: going to be taken home?
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Speaker 1: And I agree? And this is I mean, you get
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Speaker 1: to the point where how can you or I be
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Speaker 1: accountable for anything that we see anymore? I mean, if
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Speaker 1: we don't know it's real, how can you be held accountable?
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Speaker 1: And it's like truth is thrown to the street. Wh's
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Speaker 1: exactly where we are? You know, good is called evil,
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Speaker 1: Evil is called good, and the whole Matthew, you know,
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Speaker 1: twenty four Looke, twenty one Mark, thirteen punch lists. But
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Speaker 1: it's there, wars and rooms, a war, famines, best on,
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Speaker 1: earthquakes in diverse places, troublesome times. I mean, the fires
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Speaker 1: out here in California were absolutely devastating last year, devastating,
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Speaker 1: and so far there has been eleven building permits issued.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just showing you just one little example.
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Speaker 1: Just eleven, twelve thousand people lost their homes. You would
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Speaker 1: think if I were a governor, I would I would
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Speaker 1: go in there and handle this thing. I'd make sure
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Speaker 1: that we you know, these people need a place to live.
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Speaker 1: It's not eleven eleven permits. And an actress got up
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Speaker 1: and started squawking about it. You know, this is it.
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Speaker 1: This is our government. You know, it's an emergency and
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Speaker 1: only eleven and all the bureaucracy and the red date,
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Speaker 1: and it just goes on and on and on the
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Speaker 1: system is broken on every level, on every level. And
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Speaker 1: you know, you look at the abortion let's let's switch subjects.
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Speaker 1: You look at the abortion holocaust. One billion people, one
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Speaker 1: billion babies have been slaughtered in their wombs since were
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Speaker 1: a v wade and Trump is starting to go against
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Speaker 1: plan plan butcherhood because that's what it is. Let's not
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Speaker 1: call it planned parenthood because it has nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with being a parent, has everything to do with killing
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Speaker 1: as many babies as we possibly can and harvesting the
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Speaker 1: body parts. I mean, this is, this is beyond. This
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Speaker 1: is beyond you know, child sacrifice to bow three thousand
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Speaker 1: years ago or whatever. This is so far beyond it,
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Speaker 1: it's it's unbelievable. And I believe the blood of those
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Speaker 1: innocent one billion babies have helped usher in the evil
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Speaker 1: that we see permeating every facet of society on a
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Speaker 1: global level.
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Speaker 2: Like your comment on this idea, do you think the
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Speaker 2: rapture of the church is something like a rescue mission?
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Speaker 2: I mean, you could look at it that way. Talk
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Speaker 2: about that a minute.
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Speaker 1: Well, Noah is the type of the rapture, you know.
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Speaker 1: And what I love about this God tucks him into
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Speaker 1: the ark, you know, the Lord himself. You know, I'll
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Speaker 1: see you later. It's gonna rain. What'ch rain you'll find
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Speaker 1: out sooner? Right, And so he closes the door, and
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Speaker 1: you know that's a sidebar. I gotta tell you this joke.
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Speaker 1: So you know, we've we've got We've got books and
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Speaker 1: DVDs and all this stuff, all of our research. And
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Speaker 1: I was covetching of the Lord. I'll use a modern
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Speaker 1: day colloquialism, but I was convetching and I was going,
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Speaker 1: you know, Lord, nobody cares. The Church doesn't care. Nobody's listening.
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Speaker 1: And I felt the Holy Spirit say, now you know
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Speaker 1: how Noah felt. And I just started cracking up. Nobody cared.
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Speaker 1: He preaches for une twenty years. Nobody cares, right, So
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Speaker 1: I just laughed and I took that with a greate assault.
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Speaker 1: And I get it. But is a type of the
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Speaker 1: rapture because before the judgment comes, Before the judgment comes,
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Speaker 1: he's taken out a lot. Is a type of the rapture.
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Speaker 1: Before the agels can do anything. It's gonna take a
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Speaker 1: lot out of that whole deal. And that's what he does,
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Speaker 1: you know. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven
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Speaker 1: with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, with
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Speaker 1: the trump of God. The dead and Christ will rise
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Speaker 1: first we hear alive and remain will be caught up
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Speaker 1: our potzle. That's what we get rapture from together with
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Speaker 1: those in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
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Speaker 1: And so shall we evermore be with the Lord? You know,
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Speaker 1: that's that's the promise. And you know Darby didn't invent this.
20:35
Speaker 1: I love Lee Brainer's article in this month's Prophecy Watchers magazine,
20:40
Speaker 1: Shameless Plug, but it's true. And you know he just
20:44
Speaker 1: goes to the whole thing with Darby and where he
20:47
Speaker 1: comes up with it. And what people don't realize. You've
20:50
Speaker 1: got the scriptures, and you get the Dark Ages, and
20:54
Speaker 1: you get Augustine coming in in the fourth century, and
20:58
Speaker 1: everything is spiritual and you can no longer read the
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Speaker 1: Bible on pain of death. So everything goes into the
21:06
Speaker 1: Dark Ages for basically a thousand years, all right, And
21:09
Speaker 1: then in fourteen forty two thousand years later, right then
21:13
Speaker 1: you get the printing press. Gutenberg advents the printing press,
21:16
Speaker 1: and so for the first time the common man can
21:19
Speaker 1: read the Bible. Oh wait a minute, not so fast, citizen.
21:22
Speaker 1: So Tyndale translates the Bible in English. And what do
21:26
Speaker 1: they do. They promptly burn him at the stake. So
21:29
Speaker 1: this is this is where we are. So all Darby,
21:32
Speaker 1: remember this is only a few hundred years after the fact.
21:35
Speaker 1: So Darby has access to the scripture just like we do,
21:39
Speaker 1: just like we do. But the common man has access
21:42
Speaker 1: to the scripture, and he's going, wow, you know, this
21:46
Speaker 1: is a rapture of a church. And then Leigh Brandon's work.
21:49
Speaker 1: The early church fathers all believed in a pre tribulation
21:52
Speaker 1: rapture of the church. But most of the church today
21:56
Speaker 1: is a millennial. They don't believe replacement theology. They don't
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Speaker 1: believe in a literal thousand years. We do, and we
22:03
Speaker 1: cling to that. We cling to the rescue mission. That's
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Speaker 1: our blessed hope. You know, you know, Gary, Look, my
22:10
Speaker 1: hand is on the plow. I've written fourteen books, produced, directed,
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Speaker 1: host of thirty four films. You know, we're just about
22:17
Speaker 1: to release Shameless Plug, the new film I'm the Shroud
22:20
Speaker 1: of torn and the Holy Fire. We're about just about
22:22
Speaker 1: to release it. So I haven't stopped working. Marcelle, He's
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Speaker 1: an escape artist, No not. You know, my hand's on
22:29
Speaker 1: the plow. I'm not looking back. But every day, every
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Speaker 1: single day, I look up and I wonder, today, Lord,
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Speaker 1: is this it? You know? Today's some days.
22:39
Speaker 2: Are more yeah, dramatic than others.
22:44
Speaker 1: This is true.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of drama, let me read this to you first,
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Speaker 2: Tessalonians five verse three. For when they shall say no,
22:54
Speaker 2: it's they talking here. For when they shall say peace
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Speaker 2: and safety, then sudden destruction shall come upon them as
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Speaker 2: travail upon a woman with child, and they shall not escape.
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Speaker 2: That describes the environment at the time of the rapture,
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Speaker 2: peace and safety. Now do we not see that today?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's what people are calling for. A
23:18
Speaker 1: that's what people are wanting. But that's not that's not
23:23
Speaker 1: what's happening we are looking at. I mean just the
23:26
Speaker 1: and I know, you know, it's just the India Pakistan,
23:29
Speaker 1: you know, conflict here. Is that going to escalate? You know,
23:33
Speaker 1: it seems like it is hopefully cool heads will prevail,
23:36
Speaker 1: But there's no guarantee here. Is that where the nuke
23:39
Speaker 1: goes off and that you know, a nuclear event goes
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Speaker 1: off and these guys show up as our saviors, as
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Speaker 1: our progenitors. Very possible. That's what I believe is going
23:48
Speaker 1: to happen because that changes everything in a nantosecond. And
23:51
Speaker 1: that's how.
23:52
Speaker 2: You're in Holy Saucer model up there brings up another
23:56
Speaker 2: element of the conversation, which is that men can is
24:00
Speaker 2: being very carefully instructed these days by a number of
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Speaker 2: video productions concerning ancient aliens shall we use that term,
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Speaker 2: and how they are coming back to save mankind. Basically,
24:16
Speaker 2: that's the bottom line.
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Speaker 1: That's the bottom line.
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Speaker 2: And talk about that a minute, that propaganda machine.
24:27
Speaker 1: I see there you go, well, you know, speaking speaking
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Speaker 1: of but I mean, this is the coming great deception.
24:32
Speaker 1: I've been you know me. I mean we've known each
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Speaker 1: other for over one decade, I don't know, getting on
24:38
Speaker 1: twenty years, two decades now, yeah, I mean it's like
24:42
Speaker 1: I said, it's almost two decades. Like you said, it's
24:44
Speaker 1: almost two decades. This is the coming great deception. When
24:48
Speaker 1: they show up, I mean, this changes everything, and it
24:51
Speaker 1: does it in a nanosecond, you know, And it's a
24:53
Speaker 1: global event. It's not just momental UFI over Washington, DC.
24:57
Speaker 1: It's my oy craft over the cities of the world.
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Speaker 1: And it happens like that, and all of a sudden,
25:03
Speaker 1: because of the Internet, because of the satellite communication network
25:07
Speaker 1: that's already in place, the entire globe experiences this collectively
25:12
Speaker 1: at all at the same time. And that starts to
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Speaker 1: one world government and I believe, and you've heard me
25:17
Speaker 1: talk about this. At a nuclear event is what their
25:20
Speaker 1: trigger is. So when we go up, there's a little
25:25
Speaker 1: La Marzouli going up. We go up. I love the
25:30
Speaker 1: props I have, they come down. I'll do it one
25:33
Speaker 1: more time we go up, they come down.
25:36
Speaker 2: I like it. I will save that one.
25:40
Speaker 1: Not having fun with it anyway.
25:43
Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about maybe some of the objections to
25:47
Speaker 2: a pre tribulation raptor. I've heard a lot of believers
25:53
Speaker 2: say that the wrath of God lies just ahead of us,
25:57
Speaker 2: and the wrath of God upon this earth is judgment
26:00
Speaker 2: Day is going to subsume everybody on the planet, including
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Speaker 2: the Church. And you've heard that kind of argumentation as well.
26:11
Speaker 2: So how do you react to someone who says God's
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Speaker 2: judgment is near and we're going through it.
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Speaker 1: We're the bride of Christ. Where the bride of Christ,
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Speaker 1: bride of the Messiah, bride of the anointed one, the
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Speaker 1: bride of Jesus that didn't exist two thousand years ago. No,
26:33
Speaker 1: there was no bride of Christ two thousand years ago
26:37
Speaker 1: until he came and he died, and now it's in scripture.
26:41
Speaker 1: We are the bride and as Bob Ulrick likes to say,
26:44
Speaker 1: a bloodied bride. What's the point of that, you know?
26:47
Speaker 1: And Revelation chapter three that you will escape all the
26:51
Speaker 1: things coming upon the earth because you have been faithful.
26:54
Speaker 1: We're faithful, you know, and I get it, you know
26:56
Speaker 1: when you really look at the collective church. You know,
27:00
Speaker 1: just elected a new pope a couple of days ago, right,
27:02
Speaker 1: and he's a millennial all day long. He doesn't believe
27:06
Speaker 1: in the prophecy concerning Israel, so he's not the enemy.
27:10
Speaker 1: But he's clueless. Because unless a person embraces the prophetic
27:14
Speaker 1: language and not spiritualize everything and stop and throw replacement
27:20
Speaker 1: theology out the window, good luck on trying to figure
27:23
Speaker 1: out anything, they're never going to get there. We're not
27:26
Speaker 1: appointed to wrath. We are not appointed to the wrath
27:29
Speaker 1: because we are the bride of Christ, which was not
27:33
Speaker 1: there in any of the Old Testament times. It's alluded
27:37
Speaker 1: to in some places, you know, alluded to, but not
27:40
Speaker 1: like in your face, the bride of Messiah, the bride
27:44
Speaker 1: of Christ. We are the bride. And something else that
27:49
Speaker 1: happened on the day of Pentecost, which again unprecedented, when
27:54
Speaker 1: the spirit of a living God came into the apostles
27:57
Speaker 1: and the women who were there, all those people. For
28:00
Speaker 1: the first time in history, the spirit of a living
28:03
Speaker 1: God in Dwelt, the people in Dwelt, the people. That's unprecedented.
28:09
Speaker 1: So not only are we born again in spirit filled,
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Speaker 1: but we're the bride of Christ. So how can God,
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Speaker 1: you know, pour his wrath on you and me when
28:20
Speaker 1: we have a spirit of Him that didn't happen until Pentecost.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, John fourteen, and we all memorized this one. Let
28:30
Speaker 2: not your heart beat troubled, says Jesus. You believe in God,
28:33
Speaker 2: believe also in me in my father's house or many mansions.
28:37
Speaker 2: And if it were not so, I would have told
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Speaker 2: you I go to prepare a place for you. And
28:44
Speaker 2: if I go and prepare a place for you, and
28:47
Speaker 2: this is what you're talking about, I'll come again receive
28:50
Speaker 2: you unto myself, that where I am, you may be also,
28:54
Speaker 2: And whither I go, you know, And the way you
28:59
Speaker 2: know and we do. I think in our heart of hearts,
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Speaker 2: led by the spirit, we know where he went, we
29:06
Speaker 2: know where he's coming from, and we know that we're
29:08
Speaker 2: going to be where he is, probably in the near future.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it might be. Look I'm out a
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Speaker 1: dat center, but more of un likely next Wednesday. And
29:17
Speaker 1: I say that, you know, tony and cheek, But.
29:20
Speaker 2: It would have bothered me at one point if you
29:22
Speaker 2: had said, but it doesn't anymore, No, I hear you.
29:26
Speaker 1: I just you know, folks believe which you want to believe,
29:30
Speaker 1: and it's all there in scripture. We back it up.
29:32
Speaker 1: This entire little you know, get together that we're having.
29:35
Speaker 1: But it's it's our blessed hope because the wrath of
29:39
Speaker 1: God is I mean, read the bold judgments, read the seals,
29:44
Speaker 1: I mean, read the whole thing that's coming down, you know,
29:46
Speaker 1: read the fact that you know, billions of people are
29:50
Speaker 1: going to die. Understand that the theory on the beasts
29:54
Speaker 1: of the earth are are let loose on the inhabitants
29:58
Speaker 1: of the earth, I mean, the sea, the I mean
30:02
Speaker 1: it's this is the wrath of God. And you say, well,
30:05
Speaker 1: why would God do this? Well, just look around. Look
30:07
Speaker 1: at the one billion of boarded babies for starters, look
30:10
Speaker 1: at the anti the you know, think about the opening
30:14
Speaker 1: ceremony to the Olympics where they mocked the Last Supper.
30:18
Speaker 1: And I wrote wrote an article on the Prophecy watched
30:20
Speaker 1: his magazine about this. They mocked the Last Supper with
30:24
Speaker 1: transgenders and Jesus was a female and all this other stuff.
30:28
Speaker 1: You know, you guys can think what you want to think.
30:30
Speaker 1: We're going to love on you no matter what. There's
30:32
Speaker 1: no hate coming from this. But you know, you're taking
30:34
Speaker 1: something which is dear to millions of Christians worldwide, and
30:38
Speaker 1: you're mocking it, and you're doing it openly. And as
30:41
Speaker 1: you know, God can only get poked in the eye
30:44
Speaker 1: for so long and then it's like enough enough, And
30:47
Speaker 1: I think we are nearing the time where he goes
30:52
Speaker 1: this is it. You crossed the line. Church comes up
30:55
Speaker 1: and we start the seven years. You know, let's talk
30:59
Speaker 1: about a pre Trier rapture. It's being argued right now,
31:04
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen that happen for many years, but
31:06
Speaker 1: it's rotated back around to the point that there's quite
31:10
Speaker 1: a debate about the pre trib rapture. And when you
31:13
Speaker 1: read Revelation I'm holding my Bible up here, and Revelation
31:16
Speaker 1: three is the seven Churches, and I love Revelation four.
31:22
Speaker 1: After this, that's after the display of the seven churches,
31:26
Speaker 1: says John. Behold the door was open in heaven. The
31:29
Speaker 1: first voice which I heard was, as it were, a
31:32
Speaker 1: trumpet talking with me, which said, come up hither, and
31:35
Speaker 1: I will show that the things which must be hereafter
31:39
Speaker 1: Now to me, that's the trumpet we're going to hear.
31:44
Speaker 1: One and the same John is an illustration, I believe,
31:46
Speaker 1: of what's going to happen.
31:47
Speaker 2: To the church. And what does he see when he
31:50
Speaker 2: gets to heaven. He sees the seating of the elders,
31:54
Speaker 2: the disposition of the church, and then the lamb of
31:57
Speaker 2: God brings out the sealed book, which is a I
32:00
Speaker 2: believe it's a sealed indictment. And as the seven seals
32:05
Speaker 2: are opened and the scroll is red, it is an
32:10
Speaker 2: indictment against planet Earth. And it is the precursor to judgment.
32:16
Speaker 2: And you and I are going to be there watching,
32:18
Speaker 2: watching from Heaven, not Earth, and la that is. I
32:24
Speaker 2: can just feel how close that is.
32:27
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's I mean, how I've talked to
32:31
Speaker 1: some people all you've been saying this for decades, and
32:34
Speaker 1: you know, but it's wait a second, wait a second.
32:38
Speaker 1: We are if you were to plot the amount of
32:41
Speaker 1: earthquakes and volcanic activity and wars and rumors of wars
32:45
Speaker 1: and famines and pestilence from let's say the twentieth century
32:48
Speaker 1: till now. People have done this. The curve goes up.
32:51
Speaker 1: Everything is accelerating, and then you get the Internet, which
32:54
Speaker 1: we've never had before. You know, you go back thirty
32:57
Speaker 1: forty years. I mean it was there, but not like
32:59
Speaker 1: it is today.
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Speaker 2: By the way, the Internet isn't the Internet anymore. With
33:03
Speaker 2: the advent of AI, the Internet is going to become
33:06
Speaker 2: something I think terribly frightening.
33:10
Speaker 1: Well, I agree, what's happening? I agree? What was it?
33:14
Speaker 1: Just this week a robot which is powered by AI
33:19
Speaker 1: was disturbed and then started attacking it's it's maker. Yeah,
33:24
Speaker 1: what's that about? How does that work? And people who
33:27
Speaker 1: have had contact with AI and said, this is demonic,
33:30
Speaker 1: this is Frankenstein. It is it really is. So you know,
33:35
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're looking at, but I mean, surely,
33:38
Speaker 1: surely he has got to come soon and take us
33:40
Speaker 1: out of here.
33:42
Speaker 2: Now. This week, we have a number of discussions among
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Speaker 2: the leaders in Europe, we have discussions among the leaders
33:52
Speaker 2: in the Middle East. We have Erdowan you mentioned Turkey
33:55
Speaker 2: a minute ago. We have putin and we have an
33:59
Speaker 2: ongoing war. There's just enough tension in the right places
34:03
Speaker 2: that I don't think there's much stability anymore. And I
34:07
Speaker 2: believe that Christians should be in prayer these days, not
34:12
Speaker 2: only for the piece of Jerusalem, not only for the
34:14
Speaker 2: peace of the world, but for the strengthening of.
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Speaker 1: I and I agree. You know, we're admonished to pray
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Speaker 1: for the piece of Jerusalem. And you know, let's go
34:28
Speaker 1: back before nineteen forty eight. Well, why should I pray
34:31
Speaker 1: for the piece of Jerusalem? Nobody cares. You know, there's
34:33
Speaker 1: hardly anybody there. You know, you go back into the
34:36
Speaker 1: days of Mark Twain, you know, Samuel Clemens and he's there.
34:40
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a ghost town essentially. I mean,
34:43
Speaker 1: even the Graham Mufti of Jerusalem, I think it's nineteen
34:45
Speaker 1: nineteen stated, oh, the Temple mounts, that's you know, that's
34:49
Speaker 1: that's always been the Jews built out, blah blah blah.
34:52
Speaker 1: And then just a few decades later, well wait a minute,
34:55
Speaker 1: no they didn't. You know, this is ours and on
34:58
Speaker 1: and on it goes, so well, you know, Jerusalem has
35:01
Speaker 1: become a cup of trembling, and that ain't going away
35:04
Speaker 1: anytime soon. It's not. The tension is palpable over throughout
35:09
Speaker 1: the Middle East, and they have not let up on Hamas.
35:14
Speaker 1: They are going They're going to go in and completely
35:17
Speaker 1: wipe out Gaza and they need to do that. They
35:19
Speaker 1: need to eradicate Hamas to the last man. And that
35:23
Speaker 1: sounds like, well, gla, that sounds like genocide. Excuse me.
35:26
Speaker 1: Hamask would surrender anytime they want to, and they don't,
35:31
Speaker 1: and they still hold the hostages.
35:33
Speaker 2: And here we are, and after the rapture, going into
35:39
Speaker 2: the tribulation, a number of seals begin to be opened,
35:44
Speaker 2: and they are all directed toward initiating the various aspects
35:51
Speaker 2: of wars to come, and not just wars, but human
35:57
Speaker 2: misery on a scale that's difficult to imagine. And I
36:02
Speaker 2: just you know, anybody who's listening to this conversation right now,
36:05
Speaker 2: I would just say, look, think again, if you have
36:09
Speaker 2: not received the Lord Jesus Christ, because he is going
36:13
Speaker 2: to come and rescue his people before this horrific time
36:20
Speaker 2: engages planet Earth.
36:23
Speaker 1: Amen. Amen, And I think we're close, very very close.
36:29
Speaker 2: So how would we wrap this up? Give me your
36:34
Speaker 2: view on And by the way, you've just finished a
36:40
Speaker 2: pretty extensive study on the UFO matter, which I believe
36:47
Speaker 2: is bigger than a lot of people think it is.
36:50
Speaker 2: It's not only a propaganda mill to teach humanity to
36:58
Speaker 2: love demonology, which basically the UFO phenomenon happens to be.
37:04
Speaker 2: It's not only a propaganda machine, but I think it's
37:07
Speaker 2: a war machine. I think Satan is getting ready to
37:11
Speaker 2: launch the big war that is described in Revelation.
37:15
Speaker 1: And I agree with you, this thing has been you know,
37:21
Speaker 1: let me just back up. If you go to nineteen
37:23
Speaker 1: forty five, you get Hirosima and Nagasaki, unprecedented event in
37:27
Speaker 1: all of history, the two atomic explosions in Japan, Hiroshima
37:31
Speaker 1: Nagasaki nineteen forty seven. You get the Roswell crash which
37:36
Speaker 1: is in Roswell. And for those of you who think
37:38
Speaker 1: that it wasn't a crash, this is a piece of
37:41
Speaker 1: metal from the actual debris site. And we've looked at
37:44
Speaker 1: it under a scanning electron microscope and it's an aluminum alloy,
37:49
Speaker 1: but it really doesn't match anything that we have. It's
37:51
Speaker 1: like right in between. More study needs to be done
37:54
Speaker 1: on it, but we were the only film crew that's
37:57
Speaker 1: ever ever shown on film the actually coming out of
38:01
Speaker 1: the Earth. And that's what we show. We were there
38:03
Speaker 1: in the debris field. So forty five Horotima, Nagasaki. Then
38:07
Speaker 1: you get forty seven the Roswell event. Well, why Roswell
38:12
Speaker 1: the fire Well ninth Bombing Group, which is the bombing
38:14
Speaker 1: group that dropped the two atomic bombs on Nagasaki and
38:18
Speaker 1: Hiroshima is stationed in Roswell, New Mexico. So you got
38:21
Speaker 1: forty five the atomic bombs, forty seven Roswell, forty eight,
38:26
Speaker 1: you get the you get the rebirth of Israel. And
38:31
Speaker 1: this is where the entire modern day UFO phenomena takes
38:35
Speaker 1: off in ways that are unprecedented. Cattle mutilations, flybys over
38:41
Speaker 1: the Capitol, you know, lights in the sky, abductions, Benny
38:45
Speaker 1: and Barney Hill, the whole UFO phenomena just takes off
38:49
Speaker 1: like this, and now you've got engine aliens. It's been
38:52
Speaker 1: going on for like what fifteen years, which you know,
38:54
Speaker 1: these are our progenitors, these are our saviors. And this
38:58
Speaker 1: is folks, this is the coming great deception. This is
39:02
Speaker 1: it right here, right here, This changes everything. And what a.
39:07
Speaker 2: Quote unquote coincidence that all of this happened in perfect
39:12
Speaker 2: synchronization with the rebirth, the regathering and the rebirth of
39:16
Speaker 2: Israel nineteen forty seven. It's just like clockwork. La Satan
39:23
Speaker 2: I think is an evil persona, but he is not
39:29
Speaker 2: all powerful. He has to go along with a schedule
39:34
Speaker 2: which is ordained by and that schedule is built around Israel.
39:38
Speaker 2: And I think that's the reason why the UFO phenomenon
39:43
Speaker 2: has proceeded the way it has.
39:45
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you one hundred and ten percent absolutely.
39:49
Speaker 2: So as we come close to the end of our
39:53
Speaker 2: time here, your book is out. What would you like
39:58
Speaker 2: people to glean from from your book? I mean, I
40:01
Speaker 2: know it's from your heart because I've watched you put
40:03
Speaker 2: it together. And what should people be gleaning from this?
40:08
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the whole part of Rungs of Disclosure,
40:11
Speaker 1: this is at number fourteen. It's interactive when you go
40:13
Speaker 1: to Rungs Ofdisclosure dot com. This the book only has seventeen,
40:19
Speaker 1: you know, seventeen rungs. It was published last October. Well,
40:23
Speaker 1: since then, we're up to run twenty one. We are
40:26
Speaker 1: up to number twenty one on the rungs, so we
40:29
Speaker 1: keep going up towards full disclosure. What I want people
40:32
Speaker 1: to understand, you need to get three copies, one for
40:36
Speaker 1: you and your loved ones, one to give to your
40:38
Speaker 1: best friend, and one to give to your pastor. And
40:40
Speaker 1: you know we've had all sorts of specials to try
40:42
Speaker 1: to do that. Go to our site, go to your
40:44
Speaker 1: site on prophecy watchers, because this is a coming great deception.
40:48
Speaker 1: And if this isn't it, then you tell me what
40:51
Speaker 1: it is. Because this is how you create a one
40:54
Speaker 1: rold religious system and a one rold government. And they've
40:57
Speaker 1: been laying down the foundations of it. Now the halls
41:00
Speaker 1: of Congress are talking about it. We have crashed craft
41:05
Speaker 1: in our possession. We have the bodies of the pilots.
41:09
Speaker 2: I'm not engineering, by the way, whish, by the way,
41:13
Speaker 2: would make people sway more towards the opinion that, well,
41:19
Speaker 2: these things are from z that a reticular some outer
41:21
Speaker 2: space location a few hundred light years away. They're not
41:25
Speaker 2: from around here, and they're certainly not demons. What do
41:27
Speaker 2: you say to people like that?
41:29
Speaker 1: You know, you need to do your homework. And basically
41:32
Speaker 1: what I say, well, if they aren't what you think,
41:34
Speaker 1: if they are what you think they are, is it
41:36
Speaker 1: okay to abduct a five year old boy and implant
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Speaker 1: them with a metal chip. Is that okay? And never
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Speaker 1: no one ever goes well, that's really not okay because
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Speaker 1: it's not. But that's what they do. And there's a
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Speaker 1: sexual component to it, which ties back in the Genesis
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Speaker 1: free fifteen And you were the one that illuminated that
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Speaker 1: to myself and rust Isdar in chief, Joseph everyone way
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Speaker 1: back in the Nephilom conference that we did in Ohio.
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Speaker 1: I'll never forget. It changed my life. And that breeding
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Speaker 1: program Genesis three fifteen is what's going on today. Jump
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Speaker 1: forward to Daniel two forty three. Their seed will mingle
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Speaker 1: with the seed of men, but there's there's no marriage there,
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Speaker 1: which is exactly what we're seeing again.
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Speaker 2: It's a prophesied their seed mingled with the seed of men.
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Speaker 2: How can you read past that without stopping and taking
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Speaker 2: a good long What does that mean?
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Speaker 1: When I just read who are they? Who are not
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Speaker 1: human being? So? Who are they?
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Speaker 2: And why are they trying to destroy the human geno?
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Speaker 2: And how will that all work out?
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 2: La, I think you and I have talked about it
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Speaker 2: for a while, you've written about it. I think you've
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Speaker 2: put a pretty good cap on it. But it hasn't
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Speaker 2: quit yet. The phenomenon is proceeding.
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Speaker 1: Yes it is, Yes, it is real versioning and not
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Speaker 1: going away.
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Speaker 2: So I'm not going to ask you for a date
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Speaker 2: of the rapture, which, by the way, for those of
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Speaker 2: you listening, is kind of an inside joke because La
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Speaker 2: and I always ask each other if we've figured out
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Speaker 2: the data of the raptor. That's the first greeting out
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Speaker 2: of our own right. And we know that Christians shouldn't
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Speaker 2: be involved with things like that, because you'll never figure
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Speaker 2: out the date of the raptor. On the other hand,
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Speaker 2: it's exciting. We live in wonderful times and there's not
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Speaker 2: much time left to make your decision for Christ and
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Speaker 2: get on board because amenory escape is coming soon, right.
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Speaker 1: And it is the great escape, and we're those of
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Speaker 1: us who look forward to it and love the Lord
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Speaker 1: and his appearance and look forward to his coming. That's
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Speaker 1: that's it, our blessed hope.
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Speaker 2: Well, I've got a sheet of paper here that I've
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Speaker 2: written up. It has forty reasons for a pre tribulation rapture.
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Speaker 2: Now I'm not going to read all forty of them.
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Speaker 2: In fact, we've come to the end of our time
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Speaker 2: but I thought I would leave this little dangling idea
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Speaker 2: here that Hey, a lot of people who have studied
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Speaker 2: the Bible have seen this raptor is not a side event.
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Speaker 2: It is central to the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 2: I agree we as we leave today, you want to
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Speaker 2: say a word or two about that.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the rapture of a church once again,
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Speaker 1: wasn't no one knew about that till it was written
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Speaker 1: in a New Testament. I mean, it's alluded to, but
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Speaker 1: it's very clear that we're not a part of the wrath.
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Speaker 1: That we're going to be up with him to greet
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Speaker 1: the Lord in the air, and those promises are there
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Speaker 1: because we are the bride of Christ, which didn't exist
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Speaker 1: until after the Cus affection and then Pentecosts when the
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Speaker 1: Spirit comes in. So we're the bride of Christ. We're
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Speaker 1: going up Ednie will rise first always.
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Speaker 2: I'm talking to La Marzouli. I'm Gary Steerman of Prophecy Watchers,
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Speaker 2: and as we depart today, give us a good word
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Speaker 2: from La Marzouli.
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Speaker 1: A good word. Well, folks keep looking up, because as Gary.
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Speaker 2: Says, we are amen, and we'll see you soon. I'm
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Speaker 2: Gary Steerman, This is prophecy. Watchers