Latest / The Grounded Show / Grounded Show Ep. 60 - The Real Lasts Part 2
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- When I first started, it was like comparing it to athletes. So you know, you got and less to you two this is and the artists talk the mindset and because I want to bring Lebron and Brady, that's the only reason I'm going to athletes. But it's the same mindset and lesser about earlier. It's about not cheating it and doing it not just because you need to do it and because you're in a rut or because you got to. It's because it's really the right decision to do you and finding that reason. So Lebron choosing to play again and that whole speech that he gave it the ASP, he's about not cheating the game. You know, he's playing for the love of it as he had as a kid, as the desire and the motivation he had as a kid. That is the reason he's playing. Tom Brady, I don't see the same Tom Brady has seeing it's just just that competitive drive that fused him that he lives for that he's just always has to keep winning. You know, it's two completely completely different things, but it still pushes him the exact same way to be at the same levels. You know what I mean. It's like without that main thing to continuously push you, and if it changes from that to money one day, which is what I feel with David Copperfield, is it changes how you how you perform, and how you act, how you attract, how everything around you. Once you change the way you do the reason you're doing it, it changes not just what you're putting out, but people who are receiving it, I feel. And that's a great point even just to bring that into the artist thing, because that's something that me and Quincy definitely can relate to, and I know I can speak for him on this just because when we seem basically like the type of artist slash person you have to be to get a label deal slash to kind of thriving like a label deal kind of situation, we kind of realize like, nah, bro, like this is not this is not for us, you know what I'm saying. We're a certain type of person, you know, we're a certain type of artists, you know what I mean? And this is like you kind of see the writing on the wall for certain situations where you're like, Nah, this is not gonna feed me, This is not gonna be something that ten years from now, I'm going to be proud that I'm in this situation. You know, I forgot who told me. And it's funny, man, now that I think about it, it might even it might have even been one of the people in the situation that I didn't want to be in. It was like there was like, yo, you gotta think about like whatever you're establishing right now as far as like you as an artist or whatever, like you're moving forward with, like that's what you like, If it catches on, that's what you're gold it. That's gonna that's that's gonna be basically like your proof that Okay, this is what works for me, what you're gonna have to keep doing. And it's like, is that what you want to do? You want to keep doing? Like you know what I'm saying. That's why like a lot of people they try to take stabs at like trend things. And there's a way you can you can be trendy but true to you, or you can just be trendy just to try to see if something sticks. And the people that just try to be trendy to see if something sticks that that never works. You know, you might be able to find a way to get on quote unquote, but you're gonna have to keep doing that kind of formula to succeed, you know what I mean. You're not going to be able to kind of get out of that once you're in that lane, because you're basically, you know, if you come in trendy, that's what you're there. You know, that's who you are. You're trendy, you know. And it kind of goes back to, uh, when I was talking to my brother about just like, you know, creating from an authentic place, you know, not letting uh like, not letting the demand of content kind of dictate what you're doing. It kind of made us talk about like certain artists and stuff, and just you know, people that we listen too are people that you know, have recently dropped projects where it's like you just hear like you know that that's it for them, just because they were on a wave, I'm saying. And it's like once you kind of extract all the juice out of that, and then you kind of show that you're not like there's nothing to you behind that, you really kind of just you know, you're hung out you try at that point. Yeah, yeah, and that and that's one of the things I said. It's like when you go into a decision, At least for me, I go into it like, all right, I'm deciding on something that I can't go back from because that's big. You can't just do something off of whim and not even consider if what if this doesn't work? You know, you have to consider it and not like, Okay, I'll just go back. It's no, It's not that easy, Champ, especially when you're actually going full force into it, you know what I mean, Because if you're deciding to do something, but then you don't put no action to it, then it don't even matter because you wasn't gonna do nothing either way. Really about to do something, you really got to think about what you're doing, because you know, something that I like and something we were talking about as far as I getting better equipment and stuff like, that's something I would fall prey to in my younger days, you know what I mean. Like, I start to do something, the first thing I'm thinking about is like, how can I get the best of the best equipment to do what I want to do? Whatever it is, you know what I mean? Instead of saying where can I get the knowledge for this? You know, what I'm saying, like, I'm looking at the best equipment first, and then how do I work this? Instead of how do I you know, what's the concept behind how all this works? And then get an equipment from there? You know what I mean? I wanted to buy a DJ coffin case. I said, how much better am I going to get with me? I don't even coffin case yet? Unless you said something earlier, bro and I had. I had some of my mind that I wanted to say, but I completely like we got we went out a whole another rabbit hole. But I wanted to make a point to something that you know, with having my nieces and nephews here, you know, we obviously they summer, you know what I mean. So they got plenty of time and they you know, I noticed they spent a lot of time on YouTube, you know, just watching random stuff on YouTube, and you know, so my fiance she sat them down and was talking to the oldest girl and was like, you want to watch Alice in Wonderland And the girl was like, yeah, like I guess you know. The conversation they had she was like yes, you know, and so Robin puts on the old Alice in Wonderland And the whole day they had kind of been watching YouTube videos, bouncing around. You know, YouTube videos are like ten fifteen minutes. They don't hold their attention at all, bouncing around, going back and forth. She put on Alice in Wonderland and it had all of their attention the whole movie, and I was like, dang, man, you know, to really think about it, like how old Alice in Wonderland is? But going back to your point, and this is where it came up. How good of a cartoon for kids that it was when it was made compared to the options that we have now, you know what I'm saying. And I just thought that was so dope. And and also as kids, they're not thinking this looks old. It's a cartoon, you know, they're not even processing it like that, you know. So I thought that was dope, bro that you know what that reminded me of And it goes perfectly into what you're saying. Pause is you know remember the book by Shelf Silverstein, The Giving Tree? Yeah? I remember the Giving Tree. So my wife I think she recognized that after, but she didn't know what it was. And then my kids never heard of it or anything either. So like a few years ago, I bought it on Amazon and I'm like, yo, I'm gonna read it, like I'm gonna read it to everybody, like we're gonna read this book together. And they were kind of like I wouldn't say skeptical, but like they didn't they didn't see the importance the way they saw the importance because the book is very deep, but it's like it looks like a little like kids book, you know what I mean. And if y'all haven't read it, like it's not long, it's not a hard book to read anything, you know what I'm saying, except a short, you know, short little text with a little animation, Like the story is like it's just a beautiful story. And when I read them the story, like it hit them the way that I was hoping that it would hit them, you know what I mean. And it goes back to what you were saying, Quincy is like, that's an old book. The drawings are like scribblings. It's not writing in it, you know what I mean. But it was just authentic and it was just a great story, you know what I mean. And it worked because of that Seeing Dope, Super Dope. They say, they don't make things like they used to. Yeah, and that's specifically a truth in the sense of like it's not a thing that we're just saying from like, oh we're old heads. That's how we feel. It's specifically a truth. Just for example, you know, you're talking about a time when you could take you know, ten years to do a movie. You know what I'm saying. You three years was regularly you know, four or five years like you're talking about. You know, content was harder to produce and you had to put more money behind it, so people had to really be behind all the steps of it, and it had to be like completely fleshed out and something captivating, you know what I'm saying. And then you had to have people working on it to make it the best thing possible, and they were taking the time because you were allowed the time. It's not like that anymore, you know what I'm saying. And I feel like that's part of the reason why I ran into this issue. And that's something that my brother kind of over my eyes to where it's like, you know, I'm creating content because I know I got to create content, and I'm not just I'm not just creating anymore I'm creating, like just because I'm trying to create content, Like the stuff I was making before, I wasn't thinking about like specifically like what am I making this for? I was just making it, you know what I mean. So it's like kind of like grabbing that and still tying it into We do live in the now times, you know what I'm saying, Like things have changed, like you don't get the same kind of time, but you could find a way to make it work as long as it's authentic to you, you know what I'm saying, and authentic to the people you're speaking to. Because for me, it's like even even that's why, like, that's even why I like, for me, I don't really care about age when it comes to music because I'm not. My music is not tied to an age. You know what I'm saying. The way I look or how young or how old I am doesn't doesn't mean anything, you know what I mean. I saw Frank Sinatra saying till he was you know, damn near dying, you know what I'm saying, in his seventies up on stage, you know, forgetting lyrics because his mind wasn't all there. But whenever, whenever it would it would connect. You know, it was still he still had it. You know, there was a there was a story that I had seen, you know, one of these little clips that go around somebody that was like, I don't know if he was an agent, he was somebody that was close with Sinatra, and he was at one of his last shows Sinatra's performing, and towards the end of that run, you know, he was already older. He was already you know, he was you know, he was losing a little bit. You know, he wasn't all there. So he's singing a song and he kind of forgets it halfway through, and he kind of like it's looking around. He's like looking kind of embarrassed, and he also he just can't find it, like he can't figure out where where he was or what he needed to sing. And the band kind of winds down and they kind of stopped playing, and he's just kind of there like oh, you know, like just in few words like oh sorry, you know, like he kind of can't even find the worse to say, and then just a random guy in the back gets up and starts clapping and he just basically says something along the lines of don't worry, Frank, we all love you, don't worry, you know, and he just clapping. Everybody else starts clapping. He gets like a Joe of like life, and he remembers and he starts, you know, the band cakes back up. He starts singing again, and the guy that was telling the story was basically saying, and I'm gonna get the details of the story for the next episode because I want to do it justice to all the people involved, even but basically the guy was saying that that guy, he's like, that guy don't even know it, but he brought him to life for the rest of that tour, Like that gave him what he needed to finish that tour and the spark to like really like you know, he needed to know that it was still there, you know. Yeah, that's do. Let me let fluff out real quick. Man. He keeps looking at me and looking at the door, looking at me, looking at the door, give me a second. Yeah, hell true. See, he held true to what his ship was. He didn't try to you for it or cover it up or switch it up. Yeah, it held true to what he knew how to do. And he was it was singing for motherfuckers, and he didn't act. They couldn't know more. And that's what makes him so we're still talking about Frank Sinatra. That's what makes him so so damn dope. You know what I'm saying. It's as a as a artist, as a person. I feel like, you know, a lot of times, especially you know, we we hear the music, but you know, people are fans of the artists, and I feel like that's why Frank Sinatra has such a large following, because like, once you learn about him. I learned about Frank Sinatra so late man. Actually Lester put me on the Frank Sinatra like maybe five years ago, maybe you know what I'm saying. And you know, since then, I've definitely gotten more knowledgeable about him. And you can just sense, man that like he was just a very authentic man and and he the way he wrote his music and the way he even sung his music, it came from his soul, you know what I'm saying, Like it was authentic and you don't find that, you know what I'm saying that at that dude was like he was talented, bur Like I didn't know much about him at all at all. I gutn't even know there was an original Oceans Lever movie before Cluney and these motherfuckers made it. You would love his story and just like a lot of like documentaries, movie all that stuff typing in because like Quincy said, bro he was so he was just so authentic and so transparent, and he was just like this guy where he was like it's like almost like he had this bravado to him, but at the same time he kind of almost didn't believe that he was really Frank. He was really Frank Sinatra. He was really that guy and like and it was such an interesting thing to me of like like the thing where Sinatra too, was like he went on when he came out and he was like the young, up and coming guy. He was hot, and then he went through a real long cold period, you know what I'm saying, Like he went through this real long period where it was like he wasn't hit anymore. He came out at a certain time with a certain style, and then like in the in between stage he was trying to find his way into the new sound and he was just sounding like a fool and it was just it was like he was like, you're saying, Joe, he was tarnishing that legacy like for a long time, bro, like Sinatra has a period in their dog that like you even as a Sinatra super fan, Bro, you could try to like the music and there's like you can't. That's That's what I was trying to Quincy about when you're hopping back on. I was like, because I didn't like I said much. I was like, oh, but he held true, right, He just held true all the way till he couldn't do it a little more. But I didn't know that side of the story. Yeah, Like he had this time where he kind of lost his voice. You know, he kind of felt like he couldn't find like he didn't have the connections with like the conductors and producers and musicians had he had with before. And it took him a while to like find his voice again and even like to get to a point where he did a song like My Way, where it was just him basically saying like where he feels like he faltered things he could have done better. You know. My Way is just basically like yo, you know this is what happened. But at the end of the day, I did in my way, you know, what I'm saying and just hearing like the reflection in the verses and the way he wrote it, and even like a lot of the statements that he's that he said, Like like one part of that song that really resonates with me is he's like, you know, there was times where he bit off more than he could jew but through it all, he was always the one to say the words of somebody that doesn't kneel, which basically he's saying, like I stood on what I said. I did what I did. You know, it might not have been the right thing, but I wasn't faking it, you know what I mean. So it does tie into what you're saying, Joe, where he was he was transparent about, Hey, I was trying to find my sound again. I was trying to find my way back in because you know, the music industry basically turned on him, you know what I mean, and just him finding that resurgence later in his career and just fully accepting I'm just I'm an older man and I'm not going to be the hot young guy no more. But i still got a story to tell, you know what I mean. Like it was, it was a dope part of like his character arc, and like I said, I feel like it's some somebody slash something that you'll be really interested in. It is like that Frank Sinatra story. Yeah, part documentary about him on Netflix that's super dope, super dope because it even shows him in the studio and like his process of how he made music, and he even gets into that, you know what I'm saying. Like it's it's an overall like a general what's it called, like documentary, but it's mainly focused on him like making music. So it's super dope. Everything I know about sinatras from jay Z and I love. Jay Z said, I've never been against it. I've just never done a deep guy minute. Yeah, I feel like and it kind of goes to like the Larry Sanders thing man, Like it's hard like for a lot of people. And I'm not saying you obviously because you watched Larry Sanders show before, but like for a lot of people, you tell them something like that and they can't get past the oldness of it or the you know, the date that's on it. And that's something with a lot of people, which is why the trendy stuff works because people are always looking at the new as opposed to like and even it's funny, man, because I saw a clip the other day where Timberland was talking about like when you're chasing the hits, like it don't last, you know what I mean, Like as far as when it comes to music, and it kind of goes to like what we're talking about, like you can be trendy and you can be making money and you could be out there and like there's nothing wrong with that because there's a lane for that. And if that's you, you know, you can make a lot of money doing that. But then at the end of the day, you know, Like for me with music, I want to be that one where like when you you know, sixty years old, you're trying to put your your grand your grandson, your granddaughter on in my music, Like, yo, this is real music, like and it's still hitting, you know what I mean? Like I want to do like me to be talking about, you know, my music the way I talk about some Nazis music. Now, you know what I'm saying, Like past I believe in ninety one, bro, you know what I'm saying, Like he passed away like when I was like two years old, dog and I'm saying, and I'm still following his career and really tapped into what he did and like the story that he had. And you know what I'm saying is something that that's long gone. Yeah, and she's still still living. Like I said, Man, he passed the ninety one and I found about him in what twenty eighteen seventeen? Maybe you know, Yeah, it's crazy. You made a good point earlier, and I just want to clarify. First of all, I'm a conversation Remember, I remember every single thing that's ever written the chat. So when you said that about Larry Sanders, you said, it is second time and nobody's sitting on the first time. So that's why I responded to it. Larry Sanders show did make an impact on me. I remember that show vividly. It was a great show. I grew up watching Old Ship. But I remember being in the in the kitchen with my mom and she had I don't remember if you remember the comic dag Wood. Yeah, uh yeah, remember dad Wood? Like they had dad Wood saying where there was a real life show of it. It was in black and white, and that's one of the only channels we can get clear. Bro. She would play that every day and that was like a show like I followed. Uh So watching old stuff like that always sits well with me, Like I love watching old stuff. That's a good feeling. Uh it's seeing that stuff and appreciate it, like because when you see something that's too too two new, like that's how I feel like the New Fresh Principle Lair show. I'm like, it just looks too I get what you're saying talking about you know what I mean. It's ye drives away from That's why I like those those show. It's easy on the eyes, it's easy to watch. It's not like shine at me visually and audios sonically whatever one of those things that got right there you see him. Yeah, that's exactly how I feel about that show Dog that I see Hey Arnold, now bro that thing came out in the nineties, and aside from the fact that, like I said, it's it's an older show, different animation style, the stories, the dialogue, the jokes, the arcs, the characters, it still hits. You can watch. You can literally And I've told plenty of people and they've always come back and told me that they agree. You could go back and watch that as a grown person and watch the whole Hey Arnold series and enjoy it thoroughly and still come away with things like, dang man, that was deep, you know what I'm saying. And it goes back to what we're talking about, and even just like something when you're creating, like for anybody, no matter what you're doing, it's like, the reason why that throwback stuff feels good is because it's the stuff that has stood the test of time. And things that stand a test of time. It's literally timeless. And when you're talking about timeless, timeless means that it works in any time. You know what I'm saying. It tis time doesn't affect it, you know what I'm saying. So if you're striving for that, you're gonna you're gonna do You're gonna do good, you know what I mean. You're always gonna find you know, you might not find that success right away, but you're on the right path. You want the right thread, you know what I mean. It's kind of I was listening to a comedian today just talking about like trying his hand at like one of the best amateur nights, like just starting out, but it's because he wanted to know if he had it, you know what I mean. And then it's like people were like people when he went they were like, yo, you you know you got something. You're not funny yet, but keep at it and you'll get there, you know what I mean. And it's that thing. It's it's the thing that we always talk about from the beginning of this show, like people don't want to get in that in that part right there, like that's muddy water, you know, and that's quick, that's quick saying. That's hard. You know, that's the hard part right there, that's the that's the obstacle course, you know what I mean, Like nobody wants to do that period because that's the most vulnerable part because you're gonna be making your worst content. No matter what the content is, you're gonna you're gonna be making a lot of times your worst body of work with that first thing that you're just kind of trying to work out the kinks and you still have to put it out there. Like if it's your best body of work, that's hard, you know what I'm saying. Like for a lot of people, that's hard, especially nowadays with the social media and you seeing what everybody else is doing and you're seeing like how people make things look you know what I'm saying, Like I used to, well I still do, but I followed the skateboarder bro that he's a really good skateboarder, like one of the best in the world. He was. He was just like he was like one of the first like Internet Johnny Geiger's his name. He was one of the first guys yep. And he was one of the first guys that came up off the Internet as far as skateboarding. But like skateboarding is one of those things like we've talked about before, like it's it's a real grind and like it's you gotta be authentic to make it. He was one of the first like online guys to like really make it like on that scale. Like, nah, he's a real skater, you know what I'm saying. He's doing Battle the Barracks this year, which is a big deal. It's like a big tournament that they do, which kind of like horse but with skateboarding. Yeah, it's like all the biggest skateboarders, Bro, they do it, and he's there this year. But anyway, he lives. I don't know where he lives or where he lived when he was when this content, but he had he had was at a skate park with like a mountain range in the background. So when you would see his skateboarding clips, bro, it was like the fact that he was so dope and then he was there too, it was like, oh my gosh, Like it was just like a chef's kiss, you know. And like if you're just like a regular skateboarders starting out and you're going to a little rinky dink skate park near your crib, or maybe you're just going on a parking lot, you might not find a way to say, oh, I'm going to post these clips, you know what I'm saying, because you're comparing yourself to that guy, you know, and that's a hard way to create, you know, when you're just in that vulnerable state, you know what I mean, Like that Internet world, even it's not conducive to like being creative as far as like you know, I feel like a lot of people say you could draw inspiration, and you can, you know, figure out techniques new ways, like the informations at your fingertips, which is a great thing, but I feel like a lot of that stuff is stuff that you kind of need to work through yourself anyway, you know what I mean. What do y'all think about that? Like, do do you think when you create, you have to make the mistakes or you you can try to avoid them as much as you can both. I feel like you can try to avoid them as much as you can. But the mistakes is where those that's what makes you good good, you know what I'm saying. Like, you learn through the mistakes and you get better, and you grow and you become, you know what I'm saying, a more polished artist. You know, I think that, you know, I think we had a conversation the other day talking about some of the stuff that we went through four or five years ago, you know, and how its shaped us as artists today, you know what I'm saying in that, and we still got lessons to learn and things that are gonna happen, you know what I mean, That continues to shape us. But obviously the goal is to try to avoid, you know, those situations as much as possible. But when you you know, hit those you know, rocks in or bumps in the road and take those l's, you learn from them, you grow from them. You don't continue to make the same mistakes. I think that's the biggest thing when it comes to mistakes is learning from them and not making continuing to make the same mistakes. What do you think, Joe? Do you think do you think you have to like you have to work through all the mistakes or or can you avoid them and kind of still get to that give you a prime example tie off where you were just finishing with before that X Games was running all week. Did you watch any of it? I watched some clips and a couple of runs from the skateboarding. Oh so women? What was it? The women's skate park? Thirteen year old little girl bro won the whole won the gold and she flopped in her in her runs, and it wasn't until her last when she went all out and then during like the high quarter pipe, they brought her over for an interview, which I'm gonna get into that too, and they asked her, bro, they're thirteen year old blonde girls, super cute bro, and she can she can? You know, she can shred that whole fucking thing. So they're they're like, you know, what were you thinking in that last run? She's like, because I messed up, and because I fucked up I knew I had to give it all and do and just bring everything I could, like my last shot to try to win it. And that's why I just kept pushing it. So she had to take that out. She would have. If not, she might have been too comfortable going in that final run, might have not gone as hard, not find that motivation to do it. And then in the high verd quarter pipe, I think, oh yeah, her name was Chloe. Chloe Covelle the quarter pipe colby Raja Ruh. So last year he broke the record. Like they take the dirt bike, can go up a ramp and see how high they can go and come back down on the dirt, on the dirt, and I think he broke the record last year for like forty nine feet. Bro. Everybody came out there breaking that record on their first try. And he was just like soft sauce. You could tell he was not taking risks. He didn't want to make no take no else. He was playing it safe and he was the last dude to go, and he fucking took that risk, Bro. He gave it all. He ended up breaking his record by like ten feet. He won the boll again and he took and they ask him the same thing. He's like, he's like, I knew that was it. He's like, I knew that that was it. Everybody else already beat what I did last year. He's like, and that pushed me to just to just take that risk, bro. And I think it's a motivation from a loss, a bounce back that pushes you a little harder to take the next risk. No, definitely, definitely, I don't. And it's so interesting, bro, because it's like everybody gotta get beat up a little, you know what I mean. And it's it's funny because like, for example, we were talking about kids and everything like that's something that like my wife kind of has a hard time with like understanding that, like the kids need a little like pushback, you know what I'm saying. If they don't get if they don't feel any pushback and they don't gotta like, you know, dig within themselves in certain situations, like it's not good, you know what I mean. Like at the end of the day, everybody needs a little bit of pushback and resistance. And like we we're talking about, like you need to you need to take some else to kind of learn what you need to do, you know, what I mean. And then it kind of goes back to like this DMX lyric that I like a lot. It's uh in the in the I can feel it. The joint that he did was like the Phil Collins sample the in the Air Tonight, and he's he says in the in the song like in the first verse, he's like, you gotta put you on your ass to see what it does to you when you stand up and see that. I'm just showing love to you, you know, basically just saying like you know that to a certain point, that tough love is necessary to give. You know, if somebody's not getting that adversity just naturally, you know, sometimes you need to just kind of put it there to let that person know how it feels like to go. You know what I'm saying. It's kind of like the same thing like when you're let's say it's a perfect example. Let's tie it right back in with the skateboarding, like when you're a skateboarder, bro. I remember when I when I first started skateboarding as a kid, it was a thing of like you gotta you gotta not be scared and just accept that you're gonna fall if you're scared of falling. You're never like you have to break that before anything, you know what I'm saying, That that fear of like oh, if I land wrong, the skateboard is gonna go flying and I'm gonna fall back whatever like that that focus he's like his legs going into the side like this, you know, like if it's scared of ending, like you're never gonna like hit the moves the right way like and even for me, like as an older dude, getting back into it like in the last few years, because like I'm never gonna be no pro skater or nothing, but I like to be able to hold my own I like to be able to hit a few gaps at least, you know what I'm saying. I might not be out here doing tricks, but I'll jump the curb, you know what I'm saying. You know, a nice little six foot gap or something, I might hit it, you know what I'm saying. So I'm on that wave. But even with that, it's like getting back into it. If I'm scared that that I'm gonna hit the front of the stair and fall and stuff like that. I'm never gonna hit that gap once I let go of that fear. That's when I when I'm riding better, That's when I'm hitting moves, that's when I'm more confident. That's when I'm stepping on the board like I need to because I'm not scared of falling no more. And that and that kind of goes back to what we're talking about. That's like a physical representation of that ugly period when you're creating showing people that artwork. You know what I'm saying for a skateboarder is falling For a creative, it's it's it's being vulnerable and showing it, you know, I think. But yeah, man, this this has been as been a dope episode. It's a little two parter. We haven't done one of these in a while where we just kind of let it flow and you know, it's it's definitely been like we've been talking about, like a time period where there's like shifts going on. A lot of us have been like real busy lately, just on like a lot of like the projects that we've been working on, personal stuff, professional stuff, just everyday stuff. It's just one of those times, man, And you know, my brother, my eyes been twitching NonStop for a week. I know I'm moving, my brain is moving. I mean, I'm pushing my brain fasting a lot harder than that should be, Broen. It's been a month, I feel that. But it kind of goes back to what we were talking about. I don't know if it was off air or what, but it's kind of like weird slash dope to me that it's like there's issues like in all of our lives right now, but they're not like real issues when you break it down, stop us some recording these episodes right like, you kind of like get wrapped up into it that you forget like how things were before you know what I'm saying, or you forget like you get so wrapped up in your own bullshit that it's like you have that same thing that everybody gets where they're like, you know, looking at their life like it's a movie and it's like why I mean like, but then when from it, you're like, dang, everything's dope. It's just these couple of things I got to tackle a different way, you know what I mean. This show is like therapy, bro This is and before I remember it, like if I wasn't feeling some or something like I was like, oh, maybe next week, Like now, there's no reason for me not to be able to record a show every week and to have this talk to shift the night for a reason. But outside of that, oh next week, I'm gonna be in Atlanto next week. Literally, I fly out of here Tuesday night and I fly home Friday night. So and I'm not recording that damn room. I'm not recording outside. So we're good. But going back to where you were saying, Joe, and to kind of wrap it up is like, you know, establishing that habit, and it's like just realizing like, Okay, we just said, you know, you can carve out an hour to sit down and talk. You know, it's not impossible, and establishing that the same way all the other habits, good habits we have and the things that we're doing. It's just continuing to set the tone of we're gonna do what's necessary to get it done. And even like like the little funk I've been in like creatively and just like kind of trying to figure out this next round of music and everything like how I'm really going to attack it as far as releasing and everything like that. It's like at least the issues I'm having is with stuff I've created and things that I've been doing and am doing. You know what I mean, I'm not sitting back, you know, complaining about something that I haven't even started on. You know, like I'm over here stressing about this when it's like, you know, the main pressing issue is I have like fifteen songs that are ready to go that I'm trying to figure out which ones I'm gonna drop next, how I'm going to do the content for them, and stuff like that. So it's like it's not even like a real problem, but it's that sign that I've been getting comfortable with that. I'm that I am comfortable with the pace that I've been in and I've kind of mastered this level. So what am I gonna do to break to that next one? To then look back again, you know, a year from now and say, dang, like it's crazy I was in those shoes thinking this way and now you know what I'm saying, Like, it's that build up. It's just making sure that you're still adding to that build up. I feel that. Definitely feel that, yeah man, it's real. But yeah, man, I'm definitely uh in like a little like retooling stage. So I'm not gonna be dropping anything for like at least like at least like a month. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna figure out figure out some some new stuff. I'm excited though, man, I'm excited to uh, to see even what's gonna happen, Like, I can't wait to see what I come up with. Yeah, yeah, shit, that's so I feel You've had I think, like I said, we've had conversations. You had some good ideas of things to try that you haven't tried yet, And I'm all for all of them, except for the last one you said, I'm not. I don't know about that when that was a little but the earlier ones, dry it out, try some out. Yeah, I think it definitely goes back to the stuff we were talking about, like even though Sinatra stuff, the Copperfield stuff of like just making sure I'm authentic regardless, you know what I mean. Maybe I don't have the solution, but as long as I put that on top being authentic, it's all gonna work. Yep. Yeah, well yeah, man, Episode sixty well and sixty one, well no, no, no, technically just still episode sixty and sixty episodes and were still blood