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BREAKING: IMF Reveal Their Plan to Stop Bitcoin | EP 719 · Simply Bitcoin

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  Yo welcome to Simply Bitcoin live your number one source for
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  the peaceful Bitcoin Revolution code.
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  Breaking news culture medic Warfare we will be your guide
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  through the separation of money and state and looks like the
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  state is fighting back. The IMF recent did was basically
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  the end of last week within have a we didn't have time to cover
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  it but they announced they announced their their worldwide
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  crypto, their version of a cryptocurrency.
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  It's a The coin apparently it's called the unit coin.
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  Terrible terrible name. So we're going to do we're going
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  to dive deep into that but one of the things that I found
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  interesting though is that in the documents of this world
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  coin, it actually unveiled what the policy recommendations of
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  the IMF were or are better said to stop the adoption of Bitcoin
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  worldwide. And we're going to dig into all
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  those about like 10 policy recommendations and what you
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  guys will find. Interesting.
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  Is that a lot of these things are things that you know,
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  specifically United States, operation, choke point to point
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  O. So that sounds very very
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  similar, right? And remember what the IMF did
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  when it came to the conditions that they offered Argentina for
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  the bailout one of those conditions was that Argentina.
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  Had to ask had to had to D incentivize the adoption of
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  Bitcoin, the government did and that's absolutely crazy specific
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  in a country that is suffering through 99 percent inflation.
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  Ation, you know. So when these people take this
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  like moral High Ground of hey this is what's best for you.
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  We just want monetary stability. I think it's just a bunch of
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  nonsense. And remember how the IMF
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  reacted, when El Salvador said that they were making Bitcoin
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  legal tender right? They made a huge Ruckus.
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  They said that El Salvador was going to default on its loan.
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  Not only did oh Salvadore not default, they had record GDP
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  growth, they have they've decreased crime to Historic
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  lows, And the country is actually attracting people back
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  to the country, which is a huge problem in Central America,
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  people want to leave and they want to relocate to the United
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  States with a state want. Op, they want more opportunity.
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  People are actually going back to El Salvador and people are
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  noticing this worldwide. It was mentioned on, it was
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  mentioned on Tucker Carlson. It was measured on Tim pool,
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  right? So people are noticing this
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  experiment and I think that is really really shaking them to
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  the core. Anyways, during the Culture.
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  We're super excited. We have Jordan from, thank God
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  for Bitcoin. They're actually throwing a
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  conference around the Miami Conference that I'm actually
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  speaking out where I'm really, really looking forward to it.
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  And it's something that we don't really talk a lot about on this
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  show, but we've mentioned it, we've hinted to it, but we are
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  going to cover it during the culture.
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  This is idea that Bitcoin, you know, Max Keiser has that quote,
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  right? You don't change Bitcoin Bitcoin
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  changes you right? And you'd have to think about
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  that. My theory of the case is for
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  that is simple, right? I think Fiat is fundamentally
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  disconnected from reality. It's fundamentally disconnected
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  from the universe and I think Bitcoin is fundamentally
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  connected to the universe because it's anchored to reality
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  via proof-of-work. Right?
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  And I think that once you unit of account is something that is
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  literally connected to reality. I think your whole outlook of
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  the world changes and what I've seen the pattern that I've seen
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  with bitcoiners that weren't normally.
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  They weren't very Churchill people, they become spiritual
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  some things there. I don't think we've quite
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  pointed. We've cut quite figured it out
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  yet, but I think it's a fascinating pattern that I've
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  picked up on, anyways, before we start the show went to bring up
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  our very special guest from thank God for Bitcoin.
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  How you doing, Jordan, welcome to the show.
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  Hey man, I appreciate y'all. Yeah, I'm glad to be here.
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  Yeah, just thrilled to have you in Miami for the conference and
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  then just to be able to be here on the show, obviously, so well,
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  really, really looking forward to it.
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  That's going to be one of my favorite events and obviously, I
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  recommend you guys Eyes going there as well.
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  Will put all the information up on screen and of course, my
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  legendary co-host. Always optimistic sent me.
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  An optimistic photo this morning.
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  As soon as he woke up like Nico, I'm happy.
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  I'm happy. That's great.
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  How you doing Opti? I'm doing great.
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  Well, I got a lot of rest this weekend, so I'm good to go, you
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  know, I slept a little more than usual.
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  So overly optimistic on Monday morning.
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  But yeah, man, I'm excited for these topics first and foremost,
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  you know, Hey, at least we know the IMF is laying their cards
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  out on the table and we know where they want to go with this
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  one. So I'm sure we're going to
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  thoroughly debunked this whole thing.
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  And again, it's not my style in time, you know, Bitcoin has
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  Force The Narrative and they wouldn't have got to this point
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  if it wasn't for Bitcoin succeeding.
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  So hey hashtag. We're winning.
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  Continue to win bitcoiners continue to win.
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  talking a lot about the Overton window.
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  We've been talking a lot about how Bitcoin needs to break out
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  of the Bitcoin Echo chamber and it needs to be discussed in
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  mainstream basically needs to seep into mainstream
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  consciousness. And we're seeing little, little
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  little signs of that doing of that happening, right, right?
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  Whether it's Tucker, which is one of the largest, you know,
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  Cable News Network anchors, 3.5 million average, viewers and
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  the most popular podcasters in the world right now gets tens of
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  thousands of live viewers when he does his Tim cast IRL show
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  and they're mentioning Bitcoin consistently right.
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  But we need more of this breakthrough because Cuz I
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  I think that a lot of the issues political issues that are
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  happening in the u.s. right now really caused because of the
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  economic hardships, that people are enduring.
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  I think it's really fueling the fire, and I do believe that if
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  you fix those, you fix those economic issues by using a money
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  that doesn't steal from you. I really believe that a lot of
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  that stuff will cool down anyway.
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  So Bill Maher was talking about You know the is basically the
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  environmental costs of Bitcoin mining and talking about
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  environmentalism in general. And here is Ben ganyan and he is
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  the chief mining officer a bit Farms which is a publicly traded
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  Bitcoin mining company. And you know, he points out
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  something really interesting. Actually, this tweet went viral
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  and he tagged Ben McKenzie. And he says you think you're an
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  expert on Bitcoin mining and energy, you wrote a book, I am
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  the chief mining officer a bit Farms.
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  I have done this full time for eight years in seven countries.
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  Debate me anytime anywhere and I think that's what needs to
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  happen. There needs to be a debate,
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  right? It can't just be, you know, some
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  academic that wrote the book but actually hasn't done it, right?
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  Just you know talking all this since I was you say in Spanish,
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  all this Miata, all this shit, right?
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  This debate needs to happen. Anyways, I have the short clip
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  for you guys. I'm going to play it and then
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  we'll talk about it. Let's check it out.
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  In 2021 Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies used the energy
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  equivalent of Argentina, the entire country, right 2 and 2 to
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  mine. Guess at zero, some bullshit
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  like it, right? I don't know how to express, how
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  utterly useless and I can't express how mad I am at the
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  younger generations for embracing this.
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  Yeah. You think you're
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  environmentalist and you think you care?
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  You Want to get rich like everybody else.
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  Okay, so I'm glad he brought up, Argentina, Argentina has 99
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  percent inflation, 99 percent inflation.
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  That's who it's for. That's who it's for why you guys
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  are laughing and your gold castle-like.
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  Uh-huh. How could you do younger
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  generation? The money printing stole from
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  our future. Look at the price of real
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  estate. It's doubled in the last two
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  years. Bitcoin is my hope Bitcoin is my
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  hope for even having a future. I don't want to own nothing.
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  I want to own Bitcoin and be happy.
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  I don't buy into your propaganda, bullshit of your own
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  nothing and be happy, that sounds like misery to me.
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  So while they're laughing and they're high castle like, oh,
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  this energy use, wait, what about the fact that it?
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  You know? And this is what they always
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  say. Right?
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  Bitcoin uses isolated energy, Bitcoin uses energy that was
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  already going to waste. If it was not doing that, it
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  would not be economical for those miners.
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  To use that said energy. It's not like Bitcoin miners are
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  like plugging Okay, let's go to New York City and let's plug in
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  these miners. Now we're going to plug them in.
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  They're going to take electricity from everybody else.
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  There'd be too expensive for Bitcoin miners so where did the
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  coin miners? Go Bitcoin miners.
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  Go to isolated energy Pockets because there's a huge there's a
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  lot of demand. Therefore prices are cheap
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  right? So it's using energy that was
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  already going to waste. So this like apples to oranges
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  comparison Bitcoin uses as much energy as the country of
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  Argentina. What.
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  Okay but what energy is that using in the first place?
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  What was being you what was that energy going to be used for?
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  That's never talked about it's just a talking point it's just a
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  narrative. So unless people like Bill Maher
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  and unlike you know, these predominant people that are, you
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  know, consistently hammering home that Bitcoin wastes has all
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  this energy until they actually have a Bitcoin her on the show
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  to debate. That is pure 100% propaganda
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  spin. They're not telling the truth.
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  The New York Times is more wasteful than Bitcoin.
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  Mining Bitcoin, mining provides hope.
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  And it gives the ability for people specifically in the
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  global South to use a money that doesn't steal from them.
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  It also gives them the opportunity to transact with the
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  global economy. So why isn't that talked about
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  more? And I suspect it's not talked
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  about more because this is propaganda.
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  They're not really concerned about what the actual benefits
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  of Bitcoin are. Or they're not really concerned
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  about actually having those discussions.
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  What they're really concerned about a selling you a narrative,
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  right? And you know what, in the days
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  of the internet, were just an average Joe could just spin up a
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  podcast or tweets or say, whatever their ability to
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  control. The narratives is greatly
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  diminished diminished. So I don't think they'll be able
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  to do this for very long. Anyways, I want to get Jordans
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  take and then we'll move on to Opti.
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  Yeah, honestly and this might surprise some people I've Loved
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  Bill Maher. Like I've been Watching him for
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  four years. And I just appreciate, I mean
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  he's pretty equal opportunity when it comes to calling out
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  people on the left and the right, and there's obviously a
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  bunch of things. I don't agree with them about
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  but I have appreciate, especially the last three years.
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  He's been a surprising voice of Sanity as related to like, you
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  know, lockdowns and all kinds of stuff like that.
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  I'm just pushing back against, you know, just the accepted
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  Dogma on, you know, a lot of different things.
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  So, I again, I just I'm, I'm optimistic for the long.
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  I'm with him, I think he's generally willing to, you know,
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  he's not scared of free speech, so he's willing to have people
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  from both sides on. So I'm hopeful that some point
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  he'll get and I was glad scene or you know, I don't even know
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  who else Michael sale or something.
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  Get somebody on there, who can kind of give him some more
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  perspective? I think the other reason why
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  Argentina, which is a great place but not as good as
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  Uruguay. Another, another reason why
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  Argentina vomit away. Another reason why Argentina is
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  is an ironic choice is because I would be The Wager that
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  Argentina is actually using less power in a lot of places.
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  Like so the fact that it uses more energy than Argentina isn't
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  actually saying as much as they think that it would be saying
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  because of the fact again, because of what you mentioned
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  that, you know, all of these Fiat policies are killing people
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  in, in Argentina's ability to have enough money to pay for
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  things like electricity. I'm sure that the the ways that
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  their currency has been devalued has affected that.
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  So, again, I just think What you have again.
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  I'm not like somebody who, you know, wants to like talk about,
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  oh, the privilege, you know, all these kind of things.
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  I don't bring that up all the time, but like what you, it's
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  just ironic. You have a Hollywood actor and
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  comedian who's got a TV show who, you know, is talking about
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  these different things, you know, I just think it's, you
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  know, you guys have you have guys who don't know what they're
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  talking about talking about things that they don't know.
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  And so when you do that, there's going to be, you know, there's
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  gonna be consequences to it and it's not going to work out very
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  well. Yeah, 100%.
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  But I mean like this. So the but the internet has
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  empowered us to fight back like this is what we're doing right
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  now. You know, we're calling out the
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  hypocrisy were calling out the privilege because that's really
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  what it is. It's privileged, you know, it's
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  like oh Bitcoin does, it was easy for you to say if you live
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  in a country with develop Financial rails and a relatively
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  stable Fiat, hundreds of currency is a very easy for you
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  to say, man. Yep.
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  But no, the vast the majority of the world does not have that
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  privilege that you have and Bitcoin is perfect for them.
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  Right. Yeah always know the other thing
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  is just going to say is like it's easy.
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  I mean again I'm sick. I'm more sympathetic to kind of,
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  I mean their willingness to think it's you know to lump
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  Bitcoin in with the rest of the crypto world, you know.
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  Like I mean, Ben Ben raises. Some good points like he's
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  correct about 99% of the crypto industry are, you know, I don't
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  know if you could work out Bitcoins a larger percentage,
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  then, you know, then you know, then a lot of these other things
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  but again I just think it's easy to just throw out the baby with
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  the bathwater. And again, there's there's good.
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  And not to do that obviously, as it relates to bitcoin.
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  But again, I think acknowledging acknowledging the the valid
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  points to make, oh, actually, you know, while at the same time
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  pointing out the blind spot. I mean, again, even if you just,
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  you do look, a Bitcoin Bitcoin is not used by very many people
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  around the world. This point like it's we know, 12
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  percent whatever it is. So again, like I get the, you
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  know, they're saying they're using the fact that Bitcoin is
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  small today as a, as a way to try to just say, oh, I see it's
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  worthless and that's a mistake, you know, there was a point at
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  which the internet was only used by a small percentage of the
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  world and if you just use the percentage using it to try to,
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  you know, draw conclusions about its usefulness, you would have
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  made it a category, you know, categorical are and a huge
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  mistake and missed out on a lot of things as related to the
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  Internet. So again, I'm more sympathetic
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  to their to their weakness. Ben seems to be more of a bad
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  actor. Honestly, Alex gladstein, I
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  don't know if you're gonna plan on touching on this a little
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  bit, but Alex basically said somebody asked hey, so is Mike
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  Peterson from Bitcoin Beach responded to a That Alex had put
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  out and said, hey, didn't you sit down with him at Bitcoin
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  2022? This past year and Alex?
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  They said, yeah, but he won't release the video.
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  And so again, that just seems like, again, could have been
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  anything, but it seems to me. Like, if you actually want to
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  know the truth, you would release that video for people to
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  see the debate that they had. So again, I'm more, you know,
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  Bill. Bill Maher, seems more of a, you
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  know, an interested party. He just doesn't know where his
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  been seems to be. There seems to be some mixed
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  Ian's. I mean, Ben's out here showing
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  his book, and, you know, it's number one book on Amazon and
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  all these things. So, it seems like he's got some
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  conflicts of interests in a way that, you know, Bill doesn't at
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  this point. So yeah, 100%.
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  And, you know, I just want to emphasize the fact write like
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  this message needs to be pushed forward.
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  People can't get stuck in the left and right.
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  Yep. BS because it's not left versus
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  right, it's not Red vs. Blue, it's Orange versus green,
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  right? And that needs to be Pushed
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  forward more and these types of debates need to happen, right?
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  It bitcoiners need to understand that we need to break out of the
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  Bitcoin. Echo chamber and more
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  predominant mainstream figures like Bill Maher, need to be
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  having these actual discussions rather than pushing, you know,
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  I'll be very in, this is a harsh words, but I truly believe that.
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  Like what that guy said was propaganda, like it was, it was
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  narrative spin. There's a lot more nuanced there
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  and that wasn't talked about right.
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  Anyways, I think it's inevitable.
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  Available that these types of discussions are going to be
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  forced upon people. Anyways, after you got about a
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  minute or two in the segment. We thought Sonic jump in real
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  quick to one of Jordans point, you know?
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  I also don't really like to use the framing of check your
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  financial privilege but like, I think it's very fitting in this
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  respect because, you know, Bill and and the other guy Ben, you
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  know, they use Argentina to make their point about electricity
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  used. But I have a friend in Argentina
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  currently and he the stories he's telling me about The people
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  suffering and the hyperinflation going on at the very moment.
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  Like it's very, it's very hard not to notice the hypocrisy
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  right now because like this is what Bitcoin offers, you know.
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  He said that Bitcoin is utterly useless but like they used
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  Argentina and it's just like of any country in the world right
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  now. They are the perfect example of
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  why you need to use Bitcoin. And it's very interesting that
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  they use the global South in one respect to dunk on bitcoiners.
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  And that very example, is one of the main shining examples of why
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  people need Bitcoin. So again, I know this, we got to
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  run too short, but like, the climate change movement in my
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  opinion, is not a serious movement.
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  It's not about saving the planet.
• 19:57
  It's just about, you know, a feel-good narrative to control
• 20:02
  Human Action and the human population so that we do not
• 20:04
  flourish. And again, it's just like a
• 20:06
  Bitcoin mean you know, the academics just found about big
• 20:09
  of found out about Bitcoin and they're here to fix it.
• 20:11
  So, you know, it's just, it's very interesting that even in
• 20:15
  their example of dunking on bit, Is why we're sitting here like
• 20:19
  like this is serious. I'm gonna I'm gonna push back a
• 20:22
  little bit like on the I just I just don't know how you cannot
• 20:27
  come to another conclusion because people have done,
• 20:29
  fabulous work, at least they've dedicated a lot.
• 20:33
  They've written papers about how a lot of these narratives
• 20:36
  against Bitcoin are just flat out wrong.
• 20:39
  And what worries me is that you see the continued.
• 20:42
  It's like you see the continuation of the same talking
• 20:45
  points over and over and over again?
• 20:47
  And those talking points have not evolved.
• 20:49
  So like I don't know how you can come to another conclusion.
• 20:53
  I don't know if the whole climate movement is because I
• 20:56
  don't, I don't have enough information to make that claim,
• 20:59
  but what I can make is it as if as it relates to bitcoin
• 21:02
  specifically, we've come up with a lot of information.
• 21:05
  A lot of bitcoiners of spend a lot of time writing and making
• 21:08
  the case for, you know, against how Bitcoin is actually helpful
• 21:13
  to to the Grid. It's help stabilize the grids.
• 21:17
  What worries me is that it falls on deaf ears, like it's the same
• 21:20
  talking points. Those talking points don't
• 21:22
  evolve which leads me to suspect would opt he's saying right?
• 21:26
  Like is it really about you know, is it is it truly is?
• 21:29
  It truly about climate change, right?
• 21:32
  But again you know no way to know that for sure but you know
• 21:36
  I don't know how you can come to another conclusion, we've been,
• 21:39
  we've been having these conversations for for, you know,
• 21:43
  at least a year or two. Now, right?
• 21:45
  Anyways, we're running out of time.
• 21:46
  Let's move. On to the next segment and we
• 21:48
  got a lot to talk about with this IMF World coin.
• 21:52
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  international this International Central Bank.
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  Digital currency so strange. Check out this.
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  PR newswire says, today at the international, monetary fund
• 23:42
  spring meetings 2023 the digital currency monitor monetary
• 23:45
  Authority, announced their official launch of an
• 23:48
  international Central Bank. Digital currency that
• 23:50
  strengthens the monetary sovereignty of participating
• 23:53
  central banks and complies with the Recent crypto assets, policy
• 23:57
  recommendations, proposed by the IMF.
• 23:59
  Let's check that out, right? Because it says, complies with
• 24:02
  the recent crypto asset policy recommendation.
• 24:04
  So, let's check out what those policy recommendations are,
• 24:08
  right? So this is a press release from
• 24:10
  Washington DC, February 2nd 2023 and they were kind enough to,
• 24:14
  you know, lay it out for us. Look, it's just the paper sets
• 24:18
  forth. A framework of nine elements
• 24:20
  that can help members develop a comprehensive consistent
• 24:24
  coordinated policy. Once the nine elements are
• 24:27
  policy actions are number one. Safeguard how you hear that
• 24:32
  word? Again, that freeze Safeguard
• 24:35
  monetary sovereignty and stability by strengthening
• 24:38
  monetary policy Frameworks. And here's the important part.
• 24:42
  Here's the kicker and do not Grant crypto assets, official
• 24:46
  currency, or legal status, tender status.
• 24:49
  The first one, I think, is the most important one out of the
• 24:52
  entire list, right? So it's interesting.
• 24:55
  Though, because I'm glad that they put that in the same
• 24:57
  sentence, right? So monetary sovereignty, clearly
• 25:01
  does not mean that coin, right? So in the eyes of them, monetary
• 25:06
  sovereignty, I guess it applies to Central bank's, I guess it
• 25:09
  applies to government's controlling money in the
• 25:11
  monetary policy. I'm a big fan of individual
• 25:14
  sovereignty through Bitcoin. Clearly.
• 25:17
  I don't think there are fans of this, but I just think it's
• 25:20
  fascinating number one. And remember the actions of the
• 25:24
  conditions of The bailout for Argentina, one of those
• 25:28
  conditions, right? Is you must stop the adoption of
• 25:32
  Bitcoin within the country that was one of the conditions given
• 25:35
  to the Argentine government in order to get the IMF bailout is
• 25:39
  these IMF bailouts would have would work.
• 25:41
  Then I think Argentina's like on number three or number four and
• 25:45
  not to mention the inflation rate of Argentina was reported
• 25:48
  99% so if the inflation rate is 99% and Bitcoin offers an option
• 25:54
  for the average, Argentine to save and money, that's not
• 25:57
  stealing from them. I don't think people understand
• 25:59
  what 99 percent inflation feels like, imagine going to the store
• 26:04
  and the prices of goods just doubling and tripling in a
• 26:08
  matter of a week or, you know, a week or a month.
• 26:12
  Like you can't live life like that.
• 26:14
  So is the IMF really concerned about the well-being of people
• 26:19
  or they really concerned about Protecting these institutions.
• 26:25
  And if that's the case, Then I think we need to move on from
• 26:29
  the IMF. I think that's really the
• 26:30
  important conversation that we need to be discussing anyways.
• 26:34
  The number to guard against excessive Capital flow
• 26:37
  volatility and maintain effectiveness of capital flow
• 26:40
  management measures. And that's really interesting.
• 26:42
  Remember, specifically here, at least in the United States, if
• 26:45
  you are to believe, you know what, what is being claimed
• 26:48
  about, operation choke point 2.0, right about how the current
• 26:51
  Administration is attempting to isolate, the industry, from the
• 26:55
  traditional Financial Mm, isn't that interesting that that's
• 26:58
  number two on this policy framework from the IMF.
• 27:01
  Anyways, number three, analyze and disclose Financial fiscal
• 27:05
  risks and adopt unambiguous tax treatment of crypto assets,
• 27:10
  right? And that's really interesting,
• 27:12
  right? Specifically the tax treatment
• 27:13
  of crypto assets. Here is a article from coin desk
• 27:18
  that just dropped and the headline for audio listeners is
• 27:21
  Sweden drives final nail into its Bitcoin mining industry with
• 27:27
  Tax hike. Ah, interesting.
• 27:29
  A lot of coincidences is in there anyways and again, what
• 27:34
  about defining, what about the fiscal risks of 99 percent
• 27:38
  inflation? Why is that not talked about?
• 27:40
  Why are they so hell-bent on rolling out, the Central Bank
• 27:44
  digital currencies, even though Central Bank digital currencies
• 27:47
  don't solve inflation. And this is why Nigeria
• 27:51
  specifically, which I think is honestly a foreshadowing on to
• 27:55
  what's going to happen for the rest of the world.
• 27:57
  Right? They tried to force people into
• 28:00
  Central Bank, digital currencies, the Central Bank,
• 28:02
  digital currency of Nigeria's called the E.
• 28:04
  Naira has very low adoption rate.
• 28:06
  Last time I checked the numbers was like point five percent and
• 28:09
  compare that to the Bitcoin adoption rate in the youth
• 28:12
  population. It's like 30%.
• 28:14
  And why is that? Well, it's basic incentives.
• 28:16
  Nigeria, has double digit inflation.
• 28:19
  What, why would I use the E? Naira.
• 28:23
  If I'm still dealing with double-digit inflation, when it
• 28:26
  comes to putting food on the table or listening to the man in
• 28:29
  the suit on TV, talking to you about what money you should use
• 28:32
  and what money you shouldn't use.
• 28:36
  You know, I think a lot of people are going to choose
• 28:38
  putting food on the table and at least here in the west, I think
• 28:41
  people are still asleep to this fact because we have an
• 28:44
  inflation rate that is not so severe that it doesn't get
• 28:48
  people to start asking questions about what money is in the first
• 28:51
  place. Anyways, the number for
• 28:53
  established legal certainty of crypto assets and address legal
• 28:57
  risks. Number five, develop and enforce
• 28:59
  Prudential conduct and oversight requirements to all crypto
• 29:03
  Market. Actors number six, establish a
• 29:06
  joint monitoring framework across different domestic
• 29:10
  agencies and authorities number. So they're telling you straight
• 29:14
  up, right? The CBD.
• 29:16
  See we want to, you know, we want to monitor it, we want to
• 29:19
  control it, right? But at the same time, they're
• 29:21
  telling you that they don't want to do that.
• 29:24
  Look, so the recent Twitter files that were released by Elon
• 29:27
  Musk, right? They released a lot of things,
• 29:30
  right? And at least here in the US,
• 29:32
  right? We're technically protected.
• 29:34
  Under the First Amendment, right?
• 29:36
  You know, free speech and whatnot, right?
• 29:37
  A lot of people say, okay, but Twitter is a private platform,
• 29:39
  that's a fair argument, right? But the thing is, is that it
• 29:43
  was, it was, it was revealed after the fact, when the Twitter
• 29:46
  files were exposed that the administration, I think it was
• 29:51
  both really were asking Twitter to pull down a lot of
• 29:56
  information. So if they're doing that with
• 29:58
  information, what makes you think, they're not going to do
• 30:00
  the same things with money? Here's a clip from Tucker.
• 30:04
  Allison today of an interview with Elon Musk and Tucker.
• 30:07
  Let's check it out. The degree to, which various
• 30:11
  government agencies, had effectively had full access to
• 30:15
  everything that was going on on Twitter.
• 30:17
  Blew my mind I was not aware of that.
• 30:19
  Would that include people's DMs. Yes, so again, right?
• 30:25
  So, you know, very, very clear, right?
• 30:28
  And and again, I think if my memory serves me correctly and I
• 30:31
  could be totally wrong here. I think they were specifically
• 30:34
  saying that they weren't doing that, which is just interesting,
• 30:38
  right? So, and at the same time, right?
• 30:40
  These are the same institutions. The same governments that want
• 30:43
  you to trust them, with the power of a central bank, digital
• 30:45
  currency, and the ability of that Central Bank, digital
• 30:48
  currency to basically controls, ID in a way, right?
• 30:53
  You know, I don't want to go down the social credit system
• 30:56
  rabbit hole because, you know, I don't think we have any facts to
• 30:58
  back that up at least here in the States but I mean, look, if
• 31:03
  history has shown right governments have for a long
• 31:07
  time, right? Abuse that power in order to
• 31:10
  collect protect their political moat.
• 31:12
  So I just don't trust them, I don't trust them with cbc's, I
• 31:15
  don't think and I don't think it's a good idea.
• 31:17
  And anyways cbc's are always going to want to do two.
• 31:20
  Things are always going to want to control.
• 31:22
  And monitor them. And most importantly, they're
• 31:24
  going to want to keep inflation. They're going to want to be able
• 31:28
  to keep deflate debasing, the money.
• 31:31
  That's how they're able to get away with the deficit spending
• 31:34
  at least in the u.s., right? The government spends, one
• 31:37
  trillion dollars more than it collects in tax revenue year
• 31:40
  over year, right? So the only way they're able to
• 31:43
  get away with that is with the hidden tax of inflation.
• 31:45
  They're able to print money, right?
• 31:47
  Anyways number seven establish International collaborative art
• 31:51
  arrangements to Supervision and enforce enforcement of crypto
• 31:55
  asset regulations number eight monitor the impact of crypto
• 31:59
  assets on the stability of the international monetary system.
• 32:02
  I mean, I think the last part they should change it up with
• 32:05
  the stability of the international monetary fund like
• 32:08
  they should just say international monetary fund
• 32:10
  because I think that's what they're talking about and number
• 32:13
  nine strengthen Global cooperation to develop digital
• 32:16
  infrastructures and alternative solutions for cross-border
• 32:20
  payments and finance and I think the last one number nine
• 32:23
  specifically is the tell that I think really makes it clear that
• 32:27
  Central Bank digital currencies and the development of them and
• 32:29
  the fact that they're rolling them out as quick and as fast as
• 32:32
  they are is a response to what is happening in Bitcoin, right?
• 32:37
  It is a response to what they're seeing is happening in Bitcoin.
• 32:41
  I think they want to I think they want to maintain the power
• 32:44
  over money. And I think that if you maintain
• 32:46
  the power over money, I think you can control people and I
• 32:49
  think governments have benefited tremendously from being able to
• 32:54
  control information and not only control information but also
• 32:58
  control money for decades and decades and decades and I think
• 33:01
  the internet has completely disintermediated that the
• 33:05
  internet has given us the ability to talk, you know
• 33:07
  directly to each other, you know with the Advent, you know, so
• 33:11
  Media, you know right now I'm talking to you guys via YouTube
• 33:14
  via Rumble via Twitter spaces, right?
• 33:16
  So we're able to circumvent these Gatekeepers of information
• 33:19
  and at the same time of this disintermediation, I think we're
• 33:21
  watching. Also the disintermediation of
• 33:24
  money, right? And I think it's causing chaos,
• 33:27
  right? Specifically for governments
• 33:29
  that have been able to control the use, these monopolies for
• 33:33
  their benefits for the longest time.
• 33:35
  And that actually goes to the theory of the sovereign
• 33:37
  individual right where they were predicting that.
• 33:40
  That the rise of information Technologies was going to give
• 33:45
  individuals freedoms of which they've never seen before their
• 33:48
  entire lives. There were able, they're going
• 33:50
  to be able to pick and choose what information sources they
• 33:53
  wanted to consume and what money they wanted to use.
• 33:58
  And I think that's what you're seeing here but you're seeing
• 34:00
  the old establishment the old system and put the conspiracy
• 34:04
  theories aside right but you're seeing the old system fight
• 34:07
  back, you're seeing them want to retain that power law.
• 34:11
  The part said it best. They want to be able to keep the
• 34:13
  privilege of creating money for free that everyone else has to
• 34:17
  work for. And I think they're willing to
• 34:19
  fight and remember the article from name buchelli, right?
• 34:23
  Don't drink. The Elite School Aids, their
• 34:25
  Lily, they're willing to lie smear print.
• 34:28
  Whatever it takes in order to maintain that privilege, right?
• 34:33
  So bunker down. Take Bitcoin into self custody.
• 34:36
  If enough people do it, we win this thing.
• 34:38
  There's nothing they could do about it.
• 34:39
  Anyways, I'm going to pass it on to To Jordan.
• 34:41
  First, what are your thoughts on all this, bro?
• 34:43
  I know I went on a little bit of a tangent here.
• 34:46
  This is this is interesting. This is fascinating.
• 34:48
  This is this is their response. This is the global CBD.
• 34:51
  See the unit coin is their response to bitcoin.
• 34:54
  This is how they think they're going to make Bitcoin go away.
• 34:57
  What are your thoughts, bro? Yeah, it's it's like I remember
• 35:00
  this is going to age me a little bit, but I remember I think
• 35:02
  we're, I think we're probably around the same age.
• 35:03
  I remember when like the Tamagotchi came out there was
• 35:06
  like, you know, you guys remember, Tamagotchis like these
• 35:08
  little, these little pets. I just remember going to Walmart
• 35:11
  And they had like the knockoff Tamagotchi.
• 35:13
  That's what I think about it. If you think about these new the
• 35:16
  unicorns is basically like this is, this is a sad substitute,
• 35:21
  you know, for Bitcoin, which is, you know, better than it in
• 35:25
  every single way imaginable. Not least of which is just the
• 35:28
  fact that it's built on, you know, Bitcoin is built on.
• 35:32
  Basically, everyone who's ever used Bitcoin, except for some
• 35:34
  folks in El Salvador, if you want to go, this route has used
• 35:37
  Bitcoin because they want to and so In this way, you have, it's
• 35:42
  always easier. I'm a parent of four kids.
• 35:45
  I'm a dad to for kids and so it's always easier like if my
• 35:49
  kids, it's it's always easier to get my kids to do something when
• 35:52
  they want to do it. Well then then if it's something
• 35:55
  that they absolutely, you know, detest and don't want to do.
• 35:57
  So in the very similar way with with you to coin, nobody wants
• 36:01
  this. No one is asking for this thing,
• 36:03
  it's something that's being foy's, it's being going to be
• 36:05
  foisted on people and so it, you know, it's not actually nobody's
• 36:09
  they're not actually asking for. I think it's not solving
• 36:11
  problems for them. It's solving problems for the,
• 36:15
  you know, Global Elite governments.
• 36:17
  These, the central bank's, it's solving problems that they have
• 36:21
  that they've created. It's not solving problems that
• 36:23
  real people have in that are looking to solve.
• 36:26
  Where's Bitcoins, the exact opposite of that.
• 36:29
  So I think that's, I mean again, the first thing that I think,
• 36:32
  when I hear the, when I hear, you know, talk about the IMF is,
• 36:34
  why am I listening to these people?
• 36:37
  What who, what these people have zero authority?
• 36:39
  Over me, why are why are people People so interested in what
• 36:41
  they think, they think they have authority over you bro.
• 36:44
  Remember remember the response to El Salvador?
• 36:47
  Yeah, you know, they talk about monetary sovereignty, all a lot.
• 36:50
  But when ya, El Salvador democratically under made
• 36:55
  hundreds of Bitcoin legal tender.
• 36:56
  They sure had a problem about that.
• 36:58
  So, yeah, it's it's. So, this is where I just go.
• 37:01
  I mean, like again, hey, I am F cry harder.
• 37:03
  Like again, you don't have, you know, again, this is bad because
• 37:06
  it's used, it's actually a bad guy saying this but big Lord of
• 37:10
  the Rings fan. And You have Theoden when he's
• 37:12
  you know like controlled by Saruman.
• 37:14
  He basically says the Gandalf. You have no power.
• 37:16
  Yeah, you know. And that's what I just think
• 37:18
  about. What I think about the IMF, that
• 37:19
  always comes to my mind is, you know, these people have zero
• 37:21
  power, like what do we like? We're literally, we're
• 37:24
  subsidizing this power that they're trying to give
• 37:27
  themselves by paying attention to them.
• 37:29
  So, on the one hand, I'm like, we should largely ignore these
• 37:32
  people. Another thing that I that I just
• 37:35
  never thought that I have related to, this has to do with
• 37:37
  unique 0, because we are announcing here on the air live.
• 37:41
  That you are going to be interviewing Alex gladstein at
• 37:44
  tgf-b 23. And so the primary topic that
• 37:48
  you're going to be talking about is the IMF the role of the IMF
• 37:51
  and how they pimp the poor pimp, the poor all over the world to
• 37:56
  serve the interests of you know, first world Nations like the
• 37:59
  United States like Europe. They use them to get their
• 38:03
  resources and so again this is gonna be something that we know
• 38:06
  is very important within the larger tgf-b.
• 38:10
  Unity. You have you know, people
• 38:13
  within, you know, within the broader Christian world, even
• 38:15
  Christians controlled the vet. I mean, it's over. 50% of the
• 38:18
  world's least again Christians on paper control over fifty
• 38:21
  percent of the world's wealth. And so you have people who are
• 38:24
  giving to Charities and giving to nonprofits all over the
• 38:27
  world. You have people who are
• 38:28
  incredibly invested in care about, you know, poor people and
• 38:31
  their plight and all kinds of stuff.
• 38:33
  And so we want to shine a light in your going to be help, you
• 38:36
  know part of helping us shine a light on, you know, the ugly
• 38:39
  reality of who they The IMF is and what they're doing around
• 38:42
  the world. So that's one thing, you know,
• 38:45
  we're super, glad to have you with us and hope you will be
• 38:48
  looking forward to that super hyped, bro.
• 38:51
  I'm super hyped for that. I hope I do you guys proud.
• 38:54
  I was watching. I was watching your interview
• 38:56
  with him the other day. So I was like, hey man, These
• 38:58
  Guys. These are you know, this is old
• 39:00
  hat for them, so this be good again.
• 39:02
  The other thing that I think about when I think about again,
• 39:05
  this has to do with the same question, like why should I be
• 39:07
  listening? These people is one of the
• 39:09
  things that has happened. As a result of Fiat, which just
• 39:12
  basically gives governments unlimited power.
• 39:15
  It functionally allows governments and central banks to
• 39:17
  make themselves gods. And so, you know, again as a
• 39:21
  Christian and, you know, there's lots of other people who would,
• 39:24
  who would object to this. But as a Christian, I believe
• 39:26
  there's one God and it's not, you know, it's not this group of
• 39:29
  people, it's not your government.
• 39:31
  And so again so my it's bringing up what Bitcoin does and what
• 39:36
  you kind of you were referencing the beginning.
• 39:37
  What Bitcoin does is it brings up all these, all these The
• 39:41
  important questions that Fiat is kind of shoved to the side.
• 39:44
  In the name of just, you know, raw power wins.
• 39:47
  This is what Fiat enables is, just whoever enables governments
• 39:50
  to be, you know, unlimitedly powerful and allows them to do
• 39:53
  whatever they want. But as that as that system,
• 39:55
  inevitably fails the, you have these questions that just come
• 39:59
  up in that start to be asked by people who are suffering the
• 40:03
  consequences of these bad policies.
• 40:05
  And this question just are super fundamental.
• 40:07
  One of them is, what is money, you know, like, I don't know if
• 40:11
  we think about this like we look at if you look around at the
• 40:13
  world right now you have identity crisis everywhere you
• 40:17
  know we don't know what anything is, we don't know what men are.
• 40:20
  We don't know what women are. We don't know what money you
• 40:21
  know like most people don't know what money is.
• 40:23
  We don't know what governments are.
• 40:24
  We don't know. I mean you have all these people
• 40:26
  who we just have lost we've lost sight of in Lost like the
• 40:31
  ability to Define what things actually are.
• 40:35
  And so I think again you know, we talked about what is money
• 40:37
  and how thinking about in Examining that question has been
• 40:42
  so revolutionary for so many of us especially who are in Bitcoin
• 40:45
  that question trying to Define what that what the answer that
• 40:49
  question is been revolutionary. I think another one this is
• 40:52
  coming right now and it's already been happening in, you
• 40:55
  know, people within like the and cap movement and you know, it's
• 40:57
  not that this thing is like brand-new but just the amount of
• 40:59
  people who are asking these questions are just in, are still
• 41:02
  incredibly small. Which is, what is the role of
• 41:05
  government. You know, why does government
• 41:07
  exists? What are the limits to their
• 41:09
  power? And so like right now, I mean
• 41:12
  you just have a thing where, you know, 50 or 100 elected
• 41:16
  officials sitting in an office sitting in a room and watching
• 41:19
  the DC can decide anything and most people just go along with
• 41:22
  it. Oh well, you know, they passed
• 41:23
  the law and if you have an understanding of Law and you
• 41:28
  know, government that just says anything that 100 old people
• 41:32
  agree. On is now binding on you know,
• 41:35
  as now Any on me, no matter what it is, no matter how bad it is,
• 41:38
  no matter how, you know, how much it hurts people.
• 41:41
  Like, you have a faulty view of what governance is.
• 41:44
  And so I think this is again, Bitcoin is we always we talk
• 41:47
  about Bitcoin being a revolutionary technology and I
• 41:51
  understand the context in which that's used, but it's also a
• 41:54
  revolutionary technology in a number of other ways because
• 41:57
  money is always, money is always a political you can't.
• 42:03
  I'm going to get pushed back in this maybe but like you can't
• 42:05
  have honey, that's not political, because money is tied
• 42:08
  to power. You know, whoever makes money
• 42:11
  is, you know, wherever money is made gives power to the group of
• 42:15
  people who are making it. And so again, yeah, you come up
• 42:20
  with these issues. I think have being able to have
• 42:23
  principled philosophically consistent answers to these
• 42:27
  questions of something as basic as what is government.
• 42:30
  These are the questions that we're going to be answering, you
• 42:32
  know, over the next decade, few decades, whatever it is as whole
• 42:35
  yacht. And We fails and, you know,
• 42:37
  implodes, you know, you're going to have two, people are going to
• 42:41
  be asking these, and they're going to be trying to figure out
• 42:45
  through resistance through, you know, debates through all these
• 42:48
  different kind of ways of like, where does the government
• 42:52
  Authority originated? Where does it come from?
• 42:55
  And so, yeah, that's just another thing.
• 42:57
  I just think I'm looking for those conversations.
• 42:59
  I'm, it's going to I think things are going to get me do
• 43:01
  much worse before they get better, but I think it's
• 43:04
  necessary. It's necessary that Bad ideas,
• 43:07
  which is our, you know, that's what we're seeing right now.
• 43:09
  We see bad ideas. We see all kinds of horribly
• 43:12
  unjust laws, being passed and put into place and it's going to
• 43:16
  have to get to a place where people really suffer more.
• 43:19
  I feel like before they realize wait a second.
• 43:20
  What are we doing again? You know, every nobody wants to
• 43:23
  sit around and have these philosophical conversations.
• 43:25
  They seem very impractical and like a waste of time, but
• 43:28
  reality actions, have no ideas have consequences.
• 43:31
  Yeah. And I think to be fair, right?
• 43:33
  Is like, you couldn't make so I I think that before Bitcoin it
• 43:38
  wasn't like I think that was the best model you can make that
• 43:40
  argument, but I think that you can't make that argument in good
• 43:44
  faith. Now I think we just have a
• 43:45
  better system and it because we have a better system it kind of
• 43:48
  shines, this light upon this basically the nation state model
• 43:54
  had that has been around since the Nepal Napoleonic era and
• 43:58
  you're just looking at it. You're like, hmm, wait a second,
• 44:01
  you know? And and one of the beautiful
• 44:03
  things about Bitcoin is that I See it and in Jordan it puts a
• 44:08
  lot of like hope in my heart right.
• 44:10
  Which is it's a unifier right? You have whether the different
• 44:14
  faiths or someone who's atheist or sometimes whatever Bitcoin is
• 44:17
  it unifies them right now, brings them together and now
• 44:20
  they speak a Common Language. And I think Politics the way
• 44:24
  that they're currently structured, doesn't do that
• 44:26
  effectively, right? He kind of liked it, it is like
• 44:30
  fuels the flame, right? And then politicians are just
• 44:33
  not incentivized to do good by their constituents.
• 44:36
  Stir incentivize actually to get into close proximity to the
• 44:39
  money printer. Richard just messes up the
• 44:41
  entire system down. His bitcoiners were looking at
• 44:44
  this and we're just like this. So Antiquated, this is so old
• 44:47
  Opti. You want to do a quick take
• 44:49
  before, I got a quick one, I got I'm quick on this one, like
• 44:52
  personally, I really appreciate the IMF being this transparent
• 44:55
  because it's all about control, you know it plain as day, the
• 44:59
  IMs said it themselves in those nine elements, you know it just
• 45:02
  shows that the unproductive class is scheming to have a
• 45:06
  Global coordinated attack on bitcoin.
• 45:08
  They call it an internal collaborative Arrangement, you
• 45:11
  know, they call it oversight and Frameworks.
• 45:13
  I call it clamoring for control. But you know what do I always
• 45:16
  say? You can't ban Bitcoin, you can
• 45:18
  only ban yourself from Bitcoin. So, the amount of word salads
• 45:20
  that we just read from the IMF is absolutely amazing and the
• 45:25
  mental gymnastics that we just saw on display to not endorse.
• 45:29
  Bitcoin again, is absolutely amazing like Bitcoin fixes this,
• 45:34
  what do we say all the time Bitcoin is forced to narrow Of,
• 45:36
  and this is the only reason why they are, you know, on the back
• 45:39
  end trying to issue something that kind of resembles Bitcoin,
• 45:43
  but it is really not Bitcoin, but it's something that just
• 45:45
  continuously perpetuates, the Fiat system that we are part of.
• 45:49
  And again, you know, I've been saying for a while I can't wait
• 45:52
  till more politician to more of the unproductive class comes
• 45:55
  out. This transparently and tells us
• 45:56
  exactly what we all know, they want to control you, they want
• 45:59
  to control everything about you and it's not about your personal
• 46:03
  protections. It's literally always about
• 46:05
  control. Reread those nine elements one
• 46:07
  more time and with that framing you'll hear exactly what I
• 46:10
  heard. Oh they trying to control you
• 46:12
  and they're trying to do it in a way with like hey citizen trust
• 46:15
  us, we know what's best. I just I just don't know like
• 46:17
  and again like I don't want to be so black and white Opti I
• 46:21
  just don't know how you can come to another conclusion like after
• 46:23
  reading that and it is just goes to a very simple question that I
• 46:27
  think we need to be asking right you know as World citizens As
• 46:30
  Americans why are we being forced to use money that steals
• 46:34
  from us? Why are we being forced money?
• 46:36
  Loses purchasing power over time and I don't think I think that
• 46:39
  question right there is undefensible.
• 46:42
  I don't think they have an answer for that, which is why I
• 46:44
  believe they're avoiding it completely and they're just
• 46:46
  talking about efficiency of payments.
• 46:48
  And, you know, we need a digital payment but they're they're
• 46:50
  avoiding the inflation question altogether and I think that's
• 46:53
  really what we need to highlight.
• 46:55
  And while we highlight that, I think it's really gonna really
• 46:59
  going to bring some things up. That they don't want brought up
• 47:02
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  All right, oops. All right, so one of the things
• 48:29
  we always say, here on the show is Bitcoin, it is for everyone.
• 48:32
  It's, I think one of our main mantras on the show, but I don't
• 48:36
  think that that excludes the idea of niching down the Bitcoin
• 48:38
  message, so specific groups of people.
• 48:40
  Stan Bitcoin better and we got Jordan here.
• 48:43
  So, on a high level of Jordan, what is it?
• 48:45
  Thank God for Bitcoin. What are you guys trying to do?
• 48:48
  You kind of touched on it earlier?
• 48:49
  But let's do a little recap and then we'll talk about the
• 48:51
  conference and I got one special question for you at the end.
• 48:54
  So I'm excited for this one. Okay, yeah.
• 48:57
  So basically man again appreciate you guys having us on
• 48:59
  basically thank God for Bitcoin came came out of a book that I
• 49:03
  wrote along with Jimmy song and Robert Breedlove and Lyle Pratt.
• 49:07
  Who's the founder of vida, vida live.
• 49:10
  And then a Bunch of other people George McHale from Bitcoin
• 49:12
  magazine, bunch of other guys. We wrote the book during the
• 49:17
  lockdown 2022 or sorry like that 2020.
• 49:20
  Book released early early 2021 and you know got way better
• 49:25
  reception than then we were imagined it was going to have.
• 49:28
  Again, we just were like hey you know, we think this is
• 49:30
  interesting and and then my favorite, my favorite tidbit
• 49:35
  from the first two months of the book was out.
• 49:37
  Our book came out the same week as the book by the pope and our
• 49:40
  book was out. Selling the Pope's Buck we were
• 49:41
  like take that Pope. So so we were joking about that
• 49:46
  but but yeah. So basically we ended up another
• 49:48
  year later. We ended up founding basically
• 49:51
  tgf-b media basically to create resources for again, largely.
• 49:57
  You're talking Christian churches, you're talking, you
• 50:01
  know, nonprofits, Christian education.
• 50:03
  Again, you have all kinds of nonprofits Charities.
• 50:07
  I mean, just again, the in within the United States alone,
• 50:10
  you're talking About tens of billions of dollars.
• 50:12
  If not, you know, if that a hundred billion dollars of money
• 50:16
  and these people are doing some of the most important work in
• 50:18
  the world, having people all over the place but with every
• 50:20
  day that goes by their money, they're able to accomplish less
• 50:23
  and less of that of that work because their money is trending
• 50:25
  towards zero. And so, we just wanted to create
• 50:28
  resources that help explain Bitcoin in a way that makes
• 50:33
  sense for, in a way that touches on specific pain points for for
• 50:39
  the broader Christian. And so I grew up in a group in a
• 50:43
  Christian family. My parents work for a Christian
• 50:45
  nonprofit. I went to Christian School for a
• 50:48
  few years. I went to Christian University.
• 50:50
  I was a missionary in a pasture. So I've seen every side of if
• 50:54
  you know, Christianity is this diamond, you keep turning it.
• 50:57
  I've seen every facet of it and lived every facet of it and and
• 51:01
  I know that you know what were the things that when I became a
• 51:04
  Bitcoin or the reasons why I got so excited about it and just as
• 51:08
  I saw the potential and saw the ways that it was helping these
• 51:10
  people, Ooh-hoo. You know, again are some of the
• 51:11
  most vulnerable people in the world and so basically the
• 51:15
  conference is going to be a place where people who don't
• 51:19
  know anything about Bitcoin can come in and have like a two-day,
• 51:22
  snapshot of what it's going to look like.
• 51:24
  And if you go right there and keep scrolling down, you're
• 51:27
  going to see. I mean, we've got again, if your
• 51:29
  little thinking about this conference like, well, I'm not a
• 51:30
  Christian. So for, you know, forget that
• 51:32
  well, again, this is not just to be just just designed to be
• 51:35
  placed for Christians. We have tons of people, a bunch
• 51:38
  of our speakers, aren't you know?
• 51:40
  A bunch of a but a number of them aren't, they're not
• 51:42
  Christians, but they're coming to to educate, you know, people
• 51:46
  who are coming from the Christian world to learn about
• 51:48
  this. So again we have Preston pissed.
• 51:49
  You got Erik Hersman from grid lists, you know, we got Zu, B is
• 51:53
  going to be there. It's a for some people, these
• 51:54
  controversial, but Greg Foss Larry, Lepard Keen.
• 51:59
  Fernandez from you know, from Azteca, the founder of Aztec,
• 52:03
  oh, Justin, Moon, Giacomo Zuko, obviously these guys need, no
• 52:07
  introduction. Mark Moss, Mike Peterson from
• 52:09
  Bitcoin Beach, Each Paul Miller Mills from Bitcoin magazine.
• 52:15
  Again Nico, there you go, BTC sessions and I was last seen
• 52:17
  like I mentioned so we have I mean it's going to be we just
• 52:20
  have a ton of people who you know we're just who wanted to be
• 52:24
  involved with the event. Again many who were Beyond
• 52:28
  pretty much you know our wildest dreams.
• 52:29
  The biggest the biggest thing he's not going to be.
• 52:32
  There's Jimmy so who's one of the people who helped found the
• 52:35
  business? Jimmy is actually traveling.
• 52:37
  He's been traveling this whole year with his family.
• 52:39
  You just traveling the world. Jimmy and his wife and their six
• 52:42
  kids have been traveling so he's not actually going to be back in
• 52:44
  the States yet. But yeah.
• 52:46
  So basically that's that's our goal.
• 52:47
  It's going to be a two-day event, the 16th and the 17th.
• 52:51
  And so basically our goal is hey if you're going to be in Miami
• 52:53
  for the for the Bitcoin conference swing on over and
• 52:56
  this is going to be a smaller event where you're going to have
• 52:59
  you're going to be able to you know meet a lot of these
• 53:01
  bitcoiners who you follow on bitcoin Twitter and all these
• 53:04
  things you're going to have pretty intimate access relative,
• 53:07
  you know, way more intimate access that you're going to have
• 53:09
  probably at any point. During the regular conference.
• 53:12
  So we would love to have you, you know, we do offer, there's
• 53:15
  like a two-day pass, there's also a one-day pass if you're
• 53:19
  only able to make one of those two days and then we also have a
• 53:22
  live stream option that we made available.
• 53:23
  We had up until recently. We didn't think that a lot of
• 53:26
  our a lot of our Canadian Bitcoin friends were going to be
• 53:30
  able to come due to their walk down or their their vaccine
• 53:34
  position and all that kind of stuff.
• 53:36
  So we just we were like all right how do we make?
• 53:38
  How do we make this conference experience is good?
• 53:40
  As good as possible for those people and then obviously
• 53:43
  there's people all over the world who might be interested
• 53:46
  in. So we basically found a video
• 53:49
  streaming company that's going to have like a five camera super
• 53:52
  professional setup. So even if you're not you're not
• 53:55
  able to be in Miami, we'd love to have you, have you be able to
• 53:59
  participate in that way? And so again if you use promo
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  options. So anyway, we'd love to have you
• 54:08
  guys love it. I absolutely love it.
• 54:11
  Okay, my question to you, bro, I've asked this question before,
• 54:15
  I'm long-form podcast and I think I've given my take on it,
• 54:20
  but I'd love to hear your take because I've asked people this
• 54:23
  and it's, you know, I'm on some hands.
• 54:25
  It comes from more like a scientific rationale background
• 54:28
  on the other hand, that comes from a more like religious
• 54:30
  background on the answer. So if it's Bitcoin divine
• 54:33
  intervention, into the feeling Madness, that's a sweet.
• 54:35
  Easy question. Here it is, here we go.
• 54:37
  So know basically what I would say about this is Bitcoin is the
• 54:41
  same. At the very least I would say
• 54:43
  Bitcoin is the same level of divine intervention that the
• 54:46
  printing press was a level of divine intervention, you know,
• 54:49
  500 years ago. And so again, I think there's a
• 54:54
  verse in the Book of James that says every good and perfect gift
• 54:57
  comes from above and is a gift, is a gift from God.
• 55:00
  And so I don't think we don't think Bitcoin needs to be like,
• 55:04
  you know, this it came down, you know, descended down slowly in a
• 55:08
  bathed in light and you know, Many people when they think
• 55:11
  about God doing something, they think of something like that.
• 55:14
  But I think that just ideas more brother, where do ideas come
• 55:18
  from? And so I think about ideas being
• 55:21
  gifts from God and so I think again the the convergence of all
• 55:25
  of of the number of different ideas that had to happen in
• 55:28
  order for Bitcoin be possible. I look at that and again, I
• 55:31
  thank God for it again. So that's that's maybe not is is
• 55:35
  maybe not as satisfying answer as some people are looking for
• 55:38
  love it but that's that's how Think about it.
• 55:41
  Again, I just think it's, I think it's a great gift that
• 55:45
  that helps Humanity to accomplish the goals in the
• 55:48
  priorities that God laid out for us to do.
• 55:52
  And so, I would say again, defining that as somebody came
• 55:55
  up and asked Jesus, which is the greatest commandment.
• 55:57
  And what's the most important thing?
• 55:58
  What was if you had to summarize, what it means to be
• 56:00
  human, how would you do that? And Jesus says, love God and
• 56:03
  love your neighbor as yourself. Those are those are the two
• 56:05
  things treat your neighbor the way that you would want to be
• 56:07
  treated in the sense of seeking there.
• 56:10
  Seeking their their best interest.
• 56:13
  And so Bitcoin is money that values and seeks the best
• 56:15
  interest of the of the individual.
• 56:18
  It prioritises in levels the playing field rather than
• 56:22
  creating a hierarchical structure that prioritises in
• 56:25
  favors the rich and Powerful over over and against the poor.
• 56:28
  So anything that does that is is is more aligned with with you
• 56:33
  know God's priorities. As he's you know revealed them
• 56:36
  then a situation than a system like the fiat currency system.
• 56:40
  It's basically does the exact opposite it allows yeah it
• 56:44
  favors the rich over and against the poor and basically again I
• 56:48
  use the word pimp I don't use that word lightly, it pimps out
• 56:50
  the pour it you know when you think about what pimping is its
• 56:53
  I'm extracting as much value and as I can from someone for my own
• 56:59
  benefit and that's exactly what fiat currency does.
• 57:02
  It uses people uses the uses. The vast majority of people to
• 57:06
  benefit a select few whereas Bitcoin you know basically
• 57:10
  Leverages the, the the processes that govern the world that
• 57:14
  exists proof of work, being a summarization summation of that.
• 57:18
  It leverages those priorities for the benefit of people all
• 57:22
  over the world and so yeah. So again, I it's definitely
• 57:26
  aligned with the, it's the type of thing that God would do.
• 57:28
  That's what I say is, it's exactly the type of thing that
• 57:31
  God would do to restrain evil as he's done throughout the
• 57:34
  history, you know, throughout history in my mind.
• 57:37
  So yeah. And, you know, and like It was
• 57:41
  crazy. Jordan is that you know of
• 57:43
  course you know we could see it from the Christian faith and
• 57:46
  that's what it does. With beauty of Bitcoin is that
• 57:49
  it does these things whether you believe or not.
• 57:51
  Yeah, yep. And it causes that like know
• 57:55
  that outcome. And that's why I always say.
• 57:57
  It's really the, this great unifier, right?
• 58:00
  So it's like whatever your, you know, religious beliefs are, you
• 58:05
  know, whatever your ideological beliefs are, it's like Bitcoin,
• 58:08
  just like brings everyone together to this.
• 58:10
  Like common denominator which is Bitcoin.
• 58:14
  And then all of a sudden, you're speaking the same language.
• 58:16
  You know, I get along with bitcoiners that have completely
• 58:20
  different ideological perspectives under me and like,
• 58:23
  we're friends were buddies. We get along just well because
• 58:25
  it's like Bitcoin. Is that, that, that common
• 58:27
  denominator that you agree on my neck.
• 58:30
  I think that's like one of the beauties of Bitcoin and I don't
• 58:34
  think anything else could do it as good as Bitcoin, right?
• 58:36
  Well, it again, and it's the reason for that is because
• 58:38
  again, money is so it's Inherent to to everyday life.
• 58:42
  Like it's something that it's designed to be something like
• 58:45
  the reason why fiat currency has been able to be perpetuated for
• 58:48
  so long is because money is designed to fall into the
• 58:51
  background against designed to be forgotten.
• 58:53
  Because the point of money is not the money itself.
• 58:55
  Money is a means to far greater ends and so that.
• 58:59
  So, again, in one sense, it makes sense.
• 59:02
  That if there's something that in Bitcoin, if there's something
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  that can restore and and, you know, restored the ways, As that
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  mean, just the trusted way, the trusted foundation for people to
• 59:13
  interact with like it would makes it make sense of that.
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  Be something that people would get excited about again.
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  There's again, 100% agree with you.
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  There's people all over the Bitcoin world, you know, who who
• 59:25
  again, do not share my beliefs about, you know, Ultimate
• 59:28
  Reality at all. We on April 1st we did a joke
• 59:33
  speaker announcement for the for the conference and it was a
• 59:36
  jokingly announced that Alexander the Bitcoin was going
• 59:39
  to be speaking. Alexander, the It is a very,
• 59:41
  very overt and vocal atheist. Who is, you know, been in my, in
• 59:47
  been, in my replies and objecting to all kinds of
• 59:49
  things. And we also made one for a knut,
• 59:52
  but I didn't publish it, but they can, you get me another
• 59:54
  one? I love canoe to death, like,
• 59:56
  give me give me knut in the, in a foxhole all day long.
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  Like, you know, there's and there's a number of other
• 1:00:00
  people. So again this is not when I talk
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  about when I talk about God, I'm not out here, you know, trying
• 1:00:06
  to like force this down people's throat.
• 1:00:07
  I'm just speaking from this is where I'm coming from.
• 1:00:09
  This is how I see things. Things.
• 1:00:10
  And there's a lot of people who see things, you know, the way,
• 1:00:12
  the way that we do who, again, we don't have big.
• 1:00:15
  There's a ton of people who we don't have Bitcoin in common
• 1:00:17
  yet, but we have Jesus in common.
• 1:00:19
  And so, again, it's leveraging you want to Leverage What you do
• 1:00:23
  have in common to help make sense of what you don't have in
• 1:00:27
  common. And so that's again, that's why
• 1:00:29
  I thank God for Bitcoin exist. That's part of the reason why,
• 1:00:32
  you know, we're a big part of the reason why we're doing the
• 1:00:34
  conference. But yeah, just really looking
• 1:00:36
  forward to helping, you know, people think through And just
• 1:00:41
  see the consequences of not just what you do with your money.
• 1:00:44
  Because there's tons of people, tons of Christians who have
• 1:00:48
  written tons of books and publish a lot of resources to
• 1:00:51
  talk about the, the moral impact of what you do with your money,
• 1:00:56
  of how you Stewart at what you use it for.
• 1:00:58
  But there hasn't been a lot of work that's done, especially in
• 1:01:00
  the last few hundred years about about just like the morality of
• 1:01:05
  the the ethics of money creation itself.
• 1:01:08
  And so, you know, there was It was a book that was a big part
• 1:01:11
  of the helped us a lot when we were writing.
• 1:01:14
  Thank God for Bitcoin is a book by a Roman Catholic, Scholars.
• 1:01:18
  Name was your Guido halsman, you wrote the book called the ethics
• 1:01:20
  of money production. It's a fantastic book and it's
• 1:01:23
  Paparazzi popularizing. The work of a 14th century.
• 1:01:27
  Bishop named Nicholas a resume who was basically standing up to
• 1:01:30
  the princes of his time. And you know saying basically by
• 1:01:33
  you expanding the monetary Supply by adding lesser lesser
• 1:01:36
  Metals into your silver and gold coins.
• 1:01:39
  You guys are you're lying. You know, you're lying and
• 1:01:42
  you're stealing, this isn't just some peripheral, you know,
• 1:01:45
  things that aren't that big, dude.
• 1:01:46
  That's two of The Ten Commandments.
• 1:01:47
  You guys are breaking. And so, in my mind, again, this
• 1:01:51
  is something that you know, throughout throughout history.
• 1:01:53
  You've seen, you know, people be willing to stand up to
• 1:01:58
  governments to speak the truth to them that they might not want
• 1:02:01
  to hear for the benefit of their people.
• 1:02:03
  This is an important role in being willing to suffer for
• 1:02:06
  doing. So I think this is, this is,
• 1:02:09
  this is a big test. That's Gonna be coming up to 44
• 1:02:12
  bitcoiners is you know, again it's been we've been Fringe and
• 1:02:15
  we've been left at ignored for the first 14 years largely of
• 1:02:19
  Bitcoin. But we're coming to a point
• 1:02:21
  where Bitcoins are going to be to be hated and they're going to
• 1:02:23
  be you know, potentially sought out and you know you know
• 1:02:27
  punished for what they're doing. And I just think that this is
• 1:02:30
  going to be it's going to be the next test.
• 1:02:32
  It's not going to just be the test of Bitcoin.
• 1:02:34
  It's going to be the test of of bitcoiners and their willingness
• 1:02:38
  to suffer for this this too. All that is very helpful and
• 1:02:42
  very useful. I think this is this principle
• 1:02:45
  brought more broadly is, you know, the how valuable is
• 1:02:48
  something to you, are you willing to suffer for it?
• 1:02:50
  This is a test that whether you're playing sports, whether
• 1:02:54
  you're going to war, you know, who's willing to suffer more is
• 1:02:58
  frequently one of the one of the tests of the strength in the
• 1:03:01
  truthfulness of I've an idea or of a movement or whatever and so
• 1:03:06
  I think this is just something that it's this is the the next
• 1:03:10
  test that's Going to be coming, coming down the pike for for
• 1:03:12
  many bitcoiners. Yeah, one way I think.
• 1:03:14
  I'll hold on, hold on. Oh man, it wouldn't be something
• 1:03:21
  Bitcoin without it. Anyways.
• 1:03:24
  Yeah, and I agree with you, I, you see the storm clouds
• 1:03:28
  gathering. I mean, we just covered it did
• 1:03:30
  look diligently under news, right?
• 1:03:32
  This is a separation of money and state and I can't emphasize
• 1:03:36
  this enough guys. You know, whatever your
• 1:03:39
  political leanings are. Your ideological leanings are
• 1:03:42
  within this with literally why we leave this type of, you know,
• 1:03:46
  we tried to make simply Bitcoin ours inclusive as humanly
• 1:03:49
  possible and neutral because we that's the fight.
• 1:03:55
  That's the fight here, right? The fight is this is not red
• 1:03:59
  versus blue. This is Green verse orange, and
• 1:04:01
  we need as many people as humanly possible on the orange
• 1:04:05
  side. And I think that's exactly what
• 1:04:07
  you're doing. I think God for Bitcoin,
• 1:04:09
  obviously, I I see it personally from that perspective, I'm
• 1:04:12
  Catholic, right? But again, I leave my personal
• 1:04:14
  views completely out of the conversation just to make, you
• 1:04:18
  know, make this movement as inclusive as possible bring
• 1:04:22
  everyone together. And I think really if you do
• 1:04:26
  that, that's how we win, right? So anyways, Jordan totally been
• 1:04:31
  a great honor to have you on simply Bitcoin today, I'm
• 1:04:35
  really, really enjoyed this conversation.
• 1:04:37
  It's been great. Super looking forward to The
• 1:04:41
  chat that you dropped it on me. Like, I know I love that.
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  Love that great show a great Showmanship.
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  I love that. Absolutely.
• 1:04:49
  So that should be really looking forward to that conversation.
• 1:04:52
  And just you know, Alex has done an incredible job, just kind of
• 1:04:55
  pointing out the hypocrisy of how the IMF portrays itself
• 1:05:00
  versus what the actual outcomes or what, what, what the like,
• 1:05:06
  what? What if the damages that the IMF
• 1:05:09
  has done, right? I think, Think that it was
• 1:05:11
  started in good faith. But I think it frankensteined
• 1:05:14
  into this creature that I think is just it does more harm than
• 1:05:19
  good and I truly truly believe that.
• 1:05:21
  So anyways, thank you so much for joining us today.
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  Why don't you tell everybody where they could find you?
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  And of course, everyone knows what you're working on these
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  Yeah, no. Yes, you can find immune to find
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  He's just doing a fantastic job but yeah, so that's there it is
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  something again. This has such big consequences
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  for people around the world and again, using using this
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  Language, you know, there might be some people who I didn't
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  think with in Bitcoin, as you're going to find much objection to
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  that. But again, we want to be
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  creating resources and content that can cut through and reach
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  just real people who aren't yet bitcoiners to help them.
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  See the value proposition? So yeah, I just again appreciate
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