Latest / Real Life Theology Podcast / Can These Bones Live? Finding Renewal in the Holy Spirit | David Young
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- 0:00Welcome back, everyone, to another episode on the Real Life Theologic Podcast.
- 0:06Thank you guys for joining in.
- 0:08We've been on a series going through some really incredible content from past gatherings.
- 0:15And today we get to feature David Young, who's going to talk to us about renewing and the
- 0:23Spirit.
- 0:24I hope you guys enjoy this episode.
- 0:27Well, I'm going to try not to internalize that last prayer, Jason, in which you said,
- 0:35and I quote, even if the speakers aren't good, may they enjoy it.
- 0:44So almost every pastor, minister I speak to right now, says the same thing.
- 0:50I'm tired, bone tired.
- 0:55The elections, the racial issues, the shutdowns, COVID.
- 1:05If you work for a church, everything changes, it feels like, every week or so.
- 1:09You know that when you work for a church and something changes.
- 1:12Every time you make a change, somebody falls off the merry-go-round, and they're usually
- 1:15mad at you.
- 1:17Many of us are just tired.
- 1:18It's a really hard time to do ministry.
- 1:22So I had this thought of how I might talk about what it means to be renewed by the Holy
- 1:28Spirit.
- 1:29I just can't get it off my head that a lot of us are tired, and maybe we need a pastoral
- 1:36word instead of a prophetic word.
- 1:38So here it is.
- 1:39The hand of the Lord was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit and set me in the middle
- 1:44of a valley, and it was full of bones.
- 1:49He led me back and forth among them, and I saw a great many bones on the floor of the
- 1:53valley, bones that were very dry.
- 1:58And he asked me, son of man, can these bones live?
- 2:07There are two kinds of dogwood trees.
- 2:11If I told you that you could have a dogwood tree that never got sick, never had a blight,
- 2:15that was always in bloom, you could pretty much decide what size of tree you wanted,
- 2:22and it would always stay that size, and it would last, goodness, probably half a million
- 2:26years.
- 2:27That might have been an attractive option for you until you realized that it's plastic
- 2:32and it was made in China, that it will never die because it'll never live, it never gets
- 2:42sick because it has no life, it'll never put out its beautiful scents, it'll never
- 2:47have baby dogwood trees, whatever they have.
- 2:53Isn't the real thing better?
- 2:56So when God takes Ezekiel out to this valley and shows him all these dry bones, his question
- 3:00in the Spirit, can dry bones still live?
- 3:06Jesus comes in John 6, and he gives some of the hardest teaching in the New Testament.
- 3:10In fact, the teaching was so hard that he did what some of us have experienced, he ran
- 3:14off most of his church.
- 3:17And the disciples were questioning him about his teaching, and his response was to say,
- 3:21are you going to leave me too?
- 3:23And then he explains what he's doing.
- 3:25He says this, he says, the Spirit gives light, I'm in John 6, 63, the Spirit gives life and
- 3:32the flesh counts for nothing.
- 3:34The words I speak, they are Spirit and they are life.
- 3:40I want to encourage you to do something right now.
- 3:43For a lot of us, we really are tired.
- 3:46I think there might be even an epidemic of pastors and ministers dropping out of ministry
- 3:51over the next year or so.
- 3:53I want to ask you to do something.
- 3:54I want to ask you to go to the Lord with this question.
- 3:59Can these bones live?
- 4:06We live in a difficult age with respect to the Spirit.
- 4:10Some of us are afraid of the Holy Spirit.
- 4:11We grew up in churches where we didn't talk a lot about the Spirit.
- 4:15I've often used this illustration, the church that I grew up in, if you were walking down
- 4:20the adult classroom hall, and on this side there was a room that said, a study of the
- 4:24Holy Spirit, and on this side was a room that said, the Holy Spirit's in here.
- 4:29We would pick the study of the Holy Spirit over the Holy Spirit himself because we don't
- 4:34really want that experience of him.
- 4:35We would like to know about him, but we don't want to experience him.
- 4:40But others of us, we just live victims of a secular age where up until recently, the
- 4:46only question was, which spirit is this?
- 4:49And now we have to ask the question, is there really such a thing as spirit?
- 4:54I want to ask you to go to the Lord and say, can these bones live?
- 5:00Can they live?
- 5:02And the answer is going to be found, not in a plastic, humanly designed program, marketing
- 5:10scheme, our strategies.
- 5:13The answer is going to be found the same place that it was found for Ezekiel.
- 5:17It's going to be found in the Holy Spirit.
- 5:20Because it's times like these that I think God is calling us to go back to the fundamentals,
- 5:25like find the Holy Spirit.
- 5:27Let him be the power.
- 5:29Let him be the convicting force.
- 5:32Let him be home base, the place where you can come back to.
- 5:35Let him be that which quenches your thirst, as Jesus says in John 7, these fountains will
- 5:41come out of you of the spirit.
- 5:45When we go back to the spirit, here's how Paul puts it, 1 Thessalonians, the first chapter
- 5:50verses 3, 4, and 5.
- 5:51He says, I know, brothers, that you're chosen because when my gospel came to you, it came
- 5:56to you not only in word, but it also came to you in power and the Holy Spirit and conviction.
- 6:03When we find the Holy Spirit, what we will discover again is this power that really launched
- 6:10most of us into our ministry careers anyway.
- 6:13We rediscover the thing that connects us to God.
- 6:17We rediscover the power, the energy that's necessary to get up and face all the changes
- 6:22that we have to face every single day in the middle of this pandemic.
- 6:27When we go home dry as a bone, when we're not really sure that we want to carry on,
- 6:33when you come out of a meeting and you have the mask bellies, Matt, the no mask bellies
- 6:39in your church, and you have all these people who are taking sides, whether it's political,
- 6:45whether it has to do with race or whatever it is, and you're wondering, man, I just don't
- 6:48know.
- 6:49I don't know if I want to keep doing this.
- 6:50How many more people's burdens can I carry?
- 6:53Come back to the Holy Spirit.
- 6:56Ask him the question, can these bones live?
- 7:02Ask him that question because the answer, according to this text, is not only can your
- 7:08bones live, but God can take a valley filled with dry bones, reattach them, give them their
- 7:15tendons and ligaments and cartilages back, raise them up, point them in a direction,
- 7:23and turn them into a grand army of God.
- 7:27That's what he's doing right now.
- 7:29He's walking us through this pandemic.
- 7:32He's walking us through a pruning period.
- 7:35He's walking us through all this hardship because he has some plan that is awesome,
- 7:41and we have to go through this in order to see the plan he has.
- 7:46It's a time of pruning.
- 7:48It's a time of purifying.
- 7:51It's a time of going back to the fundamentals.
- 7:54When your church gets back into full swing, there are odds that some of the people who
- 7:59weren't really all that serious won't be back, but here's who will be back.
- 8:04The people who come back will be the people who say, we're serious about this.
- 8:08What do we do now?
- 8:10And so I just want to get you to ask this question.
- 8:13Let's start the conference, but go back to your life asking the question, the Lord, God,
- 8:18tell me, can these bones live?
- 8:24And the answer will be found in the Holy Spirit.
- 8:26That's right.
- 8:27The answer will be found in the Holy Spirit.
- 8:30So the Holy Spirit comes and he brings us conviction.
- 8:33He comes and he brings us power.
- 8:36One of the cool things that I've experienced in the last few years is how the Holy Spirit
- 8:42will give you the power that you need just when you think you have no power to go on.
- 8:49So I was on a retreat not too long ago, a spiritual retreat, and the COVID has gone
- 8:54about halfway through, and I really was just dry as a bone.
- 9:00I had decided I didn't want to leave the church, I didn't want to go out of town, so I just
- 9:03gone away for a night or two, and I was just saying to the Lord, man, I just want to retire.
- 9:11Can you get me to retirement faster?
- 9:14This is hard.
- 9:16And the night that I was praying, I was talking to the Lord, I was asking him a question like
- 9:21this, can these bones live?
- 9:24The Lord just sort of showed me this image.
- 9:28And you may have heard this before, but it was an image of going to God's library in
- 9:35heaven.
- 9:36So if there's a heaven, there's going to be a library.
- 9:38There's also going to be a dining room.
- 9:41So I'd gone to God's library, and as I was in the library, I walked up and I saw a set
- 9:47of books.
- 9:50And they said on there, North Boulevard, Church of Christ, my church.
- 9:55And I pulled the books off, and I started thumbing through the pages, and it described
- 10:02the craziest accomplishments you can ever imagine.
- 10:07Churches planted all over the world, thousands of people baptized, marriages saved, addictions
- 10:14healed, people coming to Jesus from every conceivable background, Muslims professing
- 10:21Jesus' name as they went into the water.
- 10:25And the more I read about the book, the more astounded I was at my church.
- 10:31And I mentioned to the Lord, I said, Lord, this is amazing.
- 10:37There's just one problem.
- 10:38I was at North Boulevard, and none of this actually happened.
- 10:43I don't remember any of this.
- 10:46And the Lord says, oh, no, no, no.
- 10:47He reaches over to a filing cabinet, he pulls out an old tattered manila folder, it's got
- 10:51about two pages of scratch notes in it, and he hands it to me and he says, this is the
- 10:57history of the church that you had.
- 11:00This is the church that you asked for.
- 11:03This is the church you got.
- 11:06These volumes, that's the church I wanted to give you.
- 11:10If you had just asked for my spirit.
- 11:14And so I'm just giving you a charge.
- 11:18Ask God, can these bones live?
- 11:22Ask God to fill your church with the spirit.
- 11:24This is the time.
- 11:26Ask God to fill your life with the spirit.
- 11:28This is the time.
- 11:30Say to the Lord, I'm out of energy, I'm tired, I can't do this anymore.
- 11:35Now will you take over?
- 11:37And the awesome thing is that that's exactly what he wanted anyway.
- 11:42He wanted to be in control.
- 11:44He wanted to be the driver in the seat.
- 11:46He wanted to be the king.
- 11:49And now he has us where he wants us.
- 11:52Now we're ready for someone to be our king.
- 11:55Now we're ready for someone to lead us.
- 11:58Now we're ready to be filled with the Holy Spirit, as Paul says.
- 12:02And so if I'm going to pray for this, Lord, can these bones live, I'm going to at least
- 12:06do a couple of things.
- 12:07By the way, I'll just throw them out.
- 12:10One thing I'm going to do, well, I'll just give you a text, actually.
- 12:14This just dawned on me.
- 12:16This one, Ephesians chapter five, beginning at 18, Paul says, don't get drunk on wine.
- 12:20Don't let wine be in control of you.
- 12:22But instead he says, get filled with the Holy Spirit, which by the way, is an odd thing
- 12:27to command me to be filled with the Holy Spirit.
- 12:30It's odd because I didn't think I had any control over the Holy Spirit.
- 12:33Turns out I do.
- 12:34If I can be filled with him, if I can be commanded to be filled with him, I must have some power
- 12:37over him.
- 12:39So that's the main command in Ephesians chapter five, 19.
- 12:42But then there are four participles that follow that.
- 12:45So he says, be filled with the Holy Spirit.
- 12:46The first participle is speaking to one another in psalms, hymns, spiritual songs.
- 12:50So that's one way you get filled with the Holy Spirit, is by speaking to each other
- 12:53in psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs.
- 12:56A second participle follows.
- 12:58He says, praising the Lord or making music in your hearts to the Lord.
- 13:03So you want to be filled with the Holy Spirit.
- 13:05The second thing he says, start singing, which is really awesome.
- 13:10If you're a worship pastor, you know that there's something happens when you sing.
- 13:16The third participle in that text is giving thanks to the Lord for everything.
- 13:22And then the last participle down in verse 21 is, and submitting to one another out of
- 13:27a reverence or piety towards Christ.
- 13:31So that's the point I want to make.
- 13:33Go to the Lord and say, Lord, I want to be filled with the Spirit.
- 13:35I want you to make these bones live, and then start doing what those participles say.
- 13:40Start speaking to one another in psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs.
- 13:44Start singing and praising God.
- 13:46Start giving thanks to God.
- 13:47Start submitting to one another out of devotion or fear or piety towards Christ.
- 13:53Look for Him because He's already here.
- 13:58In just a minute, we're going to pray.
- 14:01Now I want you to know that a text that is easily missed, or I should say a theme because
- 14:05it's a collection of texts that are easily missed in the New Testament, have to do with
- 14:10praying in the Spirit.
- 14:11So if you have a charismatic background, these texts are very familiar to you.
- 14:15If you have a cessationist or non-charismatic background, these texts might have just kind
- 14:19of gone right past you.
- 14:21Let me share them with you.
- 14:22One of them is Jude 20, where Jude says, pray in the Holy Spirit at all times.
- 14:26So he says, pray in the Holy Spirit.
- 14:28Have you ever noticed that, that you're taught to pray in the Holy Spirit?
- 14:31Paul says the same in Ephesians 6, in verse 18, pray in every circumstance in the Holy
- 14:37Spirit.
- 14:38And then Jesus says this in Luke 11.
- 14:41So you remember how at the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus says, if you being evil know how to
- 14:45give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give good gifts
- 14:48to you?
- 14:49Luke's version of that doesn't say the same thing.
- 14:51In Luke's version, Jesus says, if you being evil know how to give good gifts to your children,
- 14:55how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask?
- 15:02So here's my challenge.
- 15:05We're gonna pray that God gives us the Holy Spirit, that He pours the Holy Spirit out
- 15:11into our hearts, and that we discover His power, we discover His presence, we discover
- 15:21that He changes our hearts and convicts us.
- 15:25We discover His peace, and we discover His presence.
- 15:29We're gonna pray.
- 15:31We're gonna pray, God, will you make these bones live?
- 15:41So I wanna have a prayer with you now.
- 15:46Lord, it is in the Holy Spirit that we pray right now.
- 15:53We pray, Father, that the Holy Spirit will fill us up.
- 15:57We confess to you our weakness.
- 15:59I personally confess to you, Father, my exhaustion.
- 16:03We confess, Father, that sometimes we're so weary.
- 16:10It's been a very wearisome time for your people all over the planet, and we need, Father,
- 16:19we need your Spirit.
- 16:20We need you to come and make us alive.
- 16:23We need you to sustain us right now, and we have men and women here in this room, some
- 16:30of whom are probably just barely hanging in there.
- 16:34I'm asking you, Father, to give them your Holy Spirit right now.
- 16:38Let your Spirit be our strength.
- 16:41Let your Spirit, Father, give us the life that we crave.
- 16:45Let your Spirit, Father, open up the eyes of our hearts so we can see what you're doing
- 16:50so we don't lose faith.
- 16:52So we're able to see that there is still a God who is still in charge, who still has
- 16:56a master strategy, and that we're still part of it.
- 17:00We pray, Father, now, fill us up with your Holy Spirit.
- 17:06It's in the holy name of Jesus that I pray, amen.
- 17:23Thank you guys for listening to this episode on The Real Life Theology Podcast.
- 17:27Hey, coming up literally just next week is the 2026 Renew.org National Gathering.
- 17:36I don't know if you guys are coming yet, but we would still love to see you guys there.
- 17:40You can still get tickets at renew.org forward slash events.
- 17:45We would love to see you there.
- 17:46If you can't attend in person, we also have a live stream option.
- 17:50Stay tuned on this podcast for more great content on disciple making and theology down
- 17:57the road.
- 17:58I hope to see you guys on the next episode.