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#260 - AD · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Buleg cap Podcast special guests in here my guy a
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Speaker 1: d was the deal Buleg cav Man. Welcome man, happy
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Speaker 1: to be back man. Yeah, last time he came with Adham. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Get you back here by yourself? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Well,
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Speaker 1: first of all, Man, I'm super proud of you, Bro,
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Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. This guy. I remember this guy.
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Speaker 1: Every night of the week would be at a nightclub
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Speaker 1: somewhere in the country. Yep. Somehow. I was like, I
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Speaker 1: was just always so impressed at your ability to be everywhere.
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Speaker 1: You were like outside outside, I put more time into
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Speaker 1: going out than putting in work than your music career. Sure, everything, yo,
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Speaker 1: do you think everything? Do you think you catched that
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Speaker 1: record Juice like was a gift in a curse. You
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Speaker 1: caught one and then it was like over because you
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Speaker 1: were just like everywhere. I wouldn't say it's a gift
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Speaker 1: in a curse. I just feel like I got super lucky.
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Speaker 1: And I didn't know what to do after that, so
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Speaker 1: I was like, fuck it, let the good times roll, dude.
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Speaker 1: That record was so hard and then you you cut, Bro,
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Speaker 1: you cut like the hardest dub plates for DJs. A
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Speaker 1: millionaire bootle keV got the juice. But that's shout out
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Speaker 1: to DJ Head because he's the one who told me
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Speaker 1: to give him a custom one. Then I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make one for everybody that shit everywhere. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because I was like, it says my name in it. Bro.
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Speaker 1: It was like such a perfect like that's that's like
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Speaker 1: an LA staple record. Definitely, you got a few. I
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Speaker 1: got a few. I got some more coming. I ain't done. Well. Listen.
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Speaker 1: You obviously a lot of people more recently know you
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Speaker 1: as a personality for sure, but you are a veteran
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Speaker 1: LA rapper and I've been fucking with you and supporting
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Speaker 1: you for it's been a long time, probably nine years
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Speaker 1: so yeah, getting close to a decade. Yeah, but just
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Speaker 1: to see you kind of like because you've always had
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Speaker 1: a great personality. I think you came on our show
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Speaker 1: of Freestyle once and brought a wig. I did pulled
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Speaker 1: the wig out and that was actually my baby Mama's wig.
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Speaker 1: You pull you pulled the weave out, bro. Yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: but you've always had like this personality. So it's just
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Speaker 1: dope to see you kind of like embrace that ship,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because I feel like there's like,
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Speaker 1: did you feel like you were fighting any sort of
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Speaker 1: stigma or hesitation to like dive all the way in
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Speaker 1: with that, because hell yeah. I mean, look, the thing
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Speaker 1: is is like when you people put their own insecurities
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Speaker 1: on you and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: They put their own projections on you, and I just
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Speaker 1: I'm just happy that I've always been a person that
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Speaker 1: listened to myself. So even when I said I wanted
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Speaker 1: to be a rapper, you know, my family at the time,
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Speaker 1: they were like, Okay, I'm not mad at them for that,
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Speaker 1: but they couldn't see it right, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: Like they it didn't make sense to them. So it
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Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, you're just gonna You're gonna
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Speaker 1: wrap and you're gonna make it. You're gonna do this,
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Speaker 1: You're gonna do that. So it's just like nig I
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Speaker 1: was living at my granny house. I was twenty five,
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Speaker 1: twenty six, right, so you know your family looking at
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Speaker 1: you like, man, man, listen, you grown get a job, right,
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Speaker 1: you feel me? I got my baby mama living there,
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Speaker 1: my daughter were under we under one roof, and I'm
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Speaker 1: just sitting there telling them just having that self belief
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Speaker 1: and having that faith that something was gonna work. And
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Speaker 1: then something did work, and you know that pivoted me,
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Speaker 1: you know, doing music. And you know while that was
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Speaker 1: going on, you know, I felt like I got I
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Speaker 1: kind of got to a ceiling where it was just like, damn,
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Speaker 1: the shit ain't getting no bigger and I'm watching this
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Speaker 1: shit decline but still keeping the faith because you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, something's gonna pop up. And then the no
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Speaker 1: jumper shit happened randomly almost here an interview, right, and
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Speaker 1: then it went, well, bro, almost everything in my life
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Speaker 1: that's been very successful for me, like it randomly happened.
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Speaker 1: And I know it's not random, you feel me, that's
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Speaker 1: all God, But it just randomly happened, like a lot
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Speaker 1: of shit I didn't plan for, Yeah, because for you,
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Speaker 1: because like, were there people your music industry friends that
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Speaker 1: were like, yo, man, once you kind of go that direction,
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Speaker 1: there's no coming back. Everybody everybody told me it's a
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Speaker 1: bad decision. You need to focus more on your music.
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Speaker 1: You need to do this, you need to do this,
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Speaker 1: you need to do that. And I'm just like, okay,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep it real with you. When Adam
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Speaker 1: first approached me. He was, you know, I was supposed
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Speaker 1: to just do the Snapchat show. I wasn't even I
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Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be full time. I was just gonna
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Speaker 1: do it. It happened. Once it happened, they was like,
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Speaker 1: do you want to keep doing it? So I thought
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Speaker 1: I was gonna be able to stay under the radar
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Speaker 1: doing the Snapchat show because I'm like, like, I don't
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Speaker 1: know nobody in this industry that was actively on Snapchat
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Speaker 1: at the time. So I'm like, okay, I can skate
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Speaker 1: under the rug with this with the Snapchat shit, and
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Speaker 1: then you know, still do my music. Don't nobody know.
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Speaker 1: And then I just started from the Snapchat show. I
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Speaker 1: just started seeing people just recognize me and they would
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Speaker 1: come up to me, like I like watching on Snapchat,
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Speaker 1: like younger kids and shit, and I'm like, what the
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Speaker 1: fun And these all different race people and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, this is you know, different and they
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Speaker 1: just coming up to me, coming up to me. And
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Speaker 1: then I started subbing on a No Jumper show and
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Speaker 1: just the amount of people that was just fucking with me.
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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, like this shit is dope. It's
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Speaker 1: a little different. Yeah, and then you know that turned
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Speaker 1: into what it turned into. But I mean, now everybody says, oh,
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Speaker 1: you're a genius for what you did. I'm like, nigga,
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Speaker 1: the same niggas who told me don't do that. That
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Speaker 1: was a dumb decision, you know what I mean? And
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Speaker 1: now I see everybody now everyone in there. Bro. Let
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Speaker 1: me tell you something. Bro. It's so funny because even now,
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Speaker 1: like I have people who are like people you wouldn't
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Speaker 1: expect to want to start their own podcast, trust me,
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Speaker 1: and they call me and they're like, hey, man, look
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to do a podcast. I'm like, you're trying
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Speaker 1: to do a podcast. Like it's it's just to the
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Speaker 1: point where, like I feel like it's like with anything
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Speaker 1: once people see it, really because like, look, can you
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Speaker 1: tell me this without getting into your business change, have
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Speaker 1: you made more money as a personality than as a rapper?
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Speaker 1: Twelve fifteen times more money as a personality. Okay, I'll
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Speaker 1: say this four years. It took me four to five
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Speaker 1: years to get a monthly check with music that I
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Speaker 1: can you know, survive off of that. I ain't going
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Speaker 1: extra or anything like that. I passed that up my
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Speaker 1: third week of doing my streams. I mean my third
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Speaker 1: mark for community. Yeah, wow, past three years up, because
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Speaker 1: you were like getting advances at every I feel like
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Speaker 1: you have an album at every distribution. Good I had.
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Speaker 1: I feel like you were bouncing around grabbing fucking bag.
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Speaker 1: I mean no, I know, but I remember I forget
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Speaker 1: me and you were talking and I was like, yo,
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Speaker 1: are you an empire? And You're like, I'm on everything ship.
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Speaker 1: We got some shit on foundation, we got row foundation Empire.
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Speaker 1: Shout out the fuzzy we had did a deal with priority, priority,
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Speaker 1: everything under the sun, you know what I mean. So
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Speaker 1: it took you three months to of doing your own ship,
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Speaker 1: not even the no jumper shit, not even no jumper
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Speaker 1: shoe my second month of the community, I've seen the
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Speaker 1: check and I said, what the fuck? Wow? It was
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Speaker 1: it was game change. It was life changing. Now for
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Speaker 1: people who do want to do the streaming thing, right,
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Speaker 1: there's a different that you obviously are on caffeine now
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Speaker 1: shout the caffeine. But what for you did you notice
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Speaker 1: was the most before caffeine came into the picture. Was
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Speaker 1: it YouTuber Twitch? That was more? Well, my goal was
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Speaker 1: and you know, shout out to the ace boy pun
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Speaker 1: pun bought me a whiteboard, and he was like, you
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Speaker 1: know what, because we started seeing the no Jumper ship
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Speaker 1: was really working, and you know, Adam gave me my show.
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Speaker 1: Once Adam gave me the show, we start seeing the
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Speaker 1: numbers and everything climbing and everything started happening. And then
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Speaker 1: I tried Twitch three times before it worked. So at
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Speaker 1: first I just wanted to play video games and just
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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm good at video games. I could
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Speaker 1: do that. I started playing Fortnite at my crib at
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Speaker 1: my old apartment, and you know, I just had my son,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And my son's probably like
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Speaker 1: one years old. My son's running around. I don't got
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Speaker 1: no nice background. I'm doing a Twitch thing. Twelve people coming,
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Speaker 1: So I get discouraged. I sell all the equipment. Then
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Speaker 1: we came up with a plan with a shot the
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Speaker 1: sea side, stretch, shot out the wheel. We was like,
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Speaker 1: all right, we gonna turn this streaming shit to something dope.
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Speaker 1: We want to We want to got a spot, bought
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Speaker 1: a stripper pole, we bought all type of equipment and
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Speaker 1: me and I Miles Parish, we ended up teaming up
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Speaker 1: because he was he already was a partner on twitch.
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Speaker 1: So we teamed up and we started doing that every month,
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Speaker 1: calling it the Monday Show, and I think the most
8:04
Speaker 1: we had was like thirty people watching us get discouraged
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Speaker 1: again sell The climate was that after you did No Jumper. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is while I'm at No Jumper Parish. Yeah, So
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Speaker 1: we started that, but it's like it wasn't it wasn't
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Speaker 1: moving at the pace where I felt like it was
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Speaker 1: worth committing to every month. And I ended up getting
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Speaker 1: my new crib and I was looking for a three
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Speaker 1: bedroom and the crib was actually four bedrooms and I
8:30
Speaker 1: looked at the bottom and I said, this is a
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Speaker 1: whole bedroom. The other bedrooms on the third floor. It's
8:35
Speaker 1: all away from each other. I'm like, this is the
8:37
Speaker 1: perfect setup. On Like, I gotta get the spot. And
8:39
Speaker 1: then right there, I was like, this is where we're
8:41
Speaker 1: gonna put all this stuff right here, it's away from
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Speaker 1: the bedrooms. Nobody got to hear me make noise or
8:46
Speaker 1: do anything like that. My kids and yeah, man, we
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Speaker 1: sat in that room. We got it, and once again
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to play video games. And the first
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Speaker 1: time that we streamed, and it's been it's been one year,
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Speaker 1: we just hit our one year anniversary. I remember when
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Speaker 1: we did the corner store brunt. I think you guys
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Speaker 1: just started just started. Yeah, and we were playing video
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Speaker 1: games and I've seen what two hundred people in there.
9:07
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, we on the something now.
9:10
Speaker 1: And then it just adapted because all I wanted to
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Speaker 1: do and on my whiteboard, all I wanted to do
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Speaker 1: was get what was it, five hundred subscribers just for
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Speaker 1: the year. I was like, you know, Pun was like,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna start small, We're gonna build this up. We're
9:24
Speaker 1: gonna do this and do that. And then went from
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Speaker 1: playing video games cause they just start asking me questions
9:28
Speaker 1: when I'm playing the video game and I'm like, hey,
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Speaker 1: they're like, hey what about this? They started asking me
9:32
Speaker 1: questions and I just start answering. So then I'm like,
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Speaker 1: they don't even want to see me play video games.
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Speaker 1: So now they wanted me just to talk and do
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Speaker 1: topics and stuff, and you know, we started implementing the
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Speaker 1: freestyle and we just just showing the personality. Yeah, just
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Speaker 1: just shooting the ship, and them numbers just started just
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Speaker 1: start shooting up. And then we didn't even want to
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Speaker 1: do YouTube. I just said we twit twit Twitch shout
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Speaker 1: out to our moderator, Quinn Low. Quinn Low was like,
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Speaker 1: I could turn y'all stuff into clips from your streams.
9:59
Speaker 1: And then we were like like okay whatever. He started,
10:02
Speaker 1: you know, making the clips. We started seeing like damn,
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Speaker 1: people are really watching the clips on YouTube. And then
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Speaker 1: you know, shout out to him. He gave us ownership
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Speaker 1: of it, and he you know, that's my moderator, he
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Speaker 1: works for us now. He gave us ownership of the
10:14
Speaker 1: page of the channel because he made the channel. He
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Speaker 1: made the channel just like on some on some like
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Speaker 1: just you know, he was a fan of white There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of those like Joe Rogan and No Jumper
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Speaker 1: channels too like that. So he gave us ownership of it.
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Speaker 1: And then yeah, bro, we started. We started making some
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Speaker 1: real chili. And then that second month, the first month,
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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, this is nice. The second month,
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Speaker 1: I was like whoa. I was blown back. I was like,
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Speaker 1: I ain't never made this much money in one month
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Speaker 1: ever in my life. So T Grizzly made one hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifteen grand in one month. He showed me on
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Speaker 1: his phone, what's your best month? Not getting into any numbers,
10:51
Speaker 1: get into some numbers. I want to say overall, and
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Speaker 1: this is what everything could bind content wise, I would
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Speaker 1: say close to like fifty sixty in a month. Yes,
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Speaker 1: shot the back on. I feel like you guys are
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Speaker 1: very much When I look at like drink Champs on
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Speaker 1: the East Coast, I feel like you guys are you
13:54
Speaker 1: guys can be that over here for sure, because I
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Speaker 1: feel like you guys are very You guys each have
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Speaker 1: your own connections, not only to obviously the rap game,
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Speaker 1: but also just to the street side, and I feel
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Speaker 1: like you guys are both very reasonable guys. As to
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Speaker 1: where most people who come from, like a cript background
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Speaker 1: or a Hoover background, there's not a lot of reason,
14:15
Speaker 1: like like, I feel like you guys, have you have
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Speaker 1: you guys ever like the thought process of like what
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Speaker 1: if the no Jumper thing goes away tomorrow? Are you
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Speaker 1: guys like has that ever been like a Oh, we're
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Speaker 1: a team, you know, shout out to smack too. Were
14:29
Speaker 1: pushing this whole big comunity line. You feel me, that's
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Speaker 1: gonna go, you know, beyond just what we doing other
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Speaker 1: stuff too. And one thing I like about you real
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Speaker 1: is he's he's just like he's a parallel with me,
14:41
Speaker 1: meaning like people known him as being the best friends
14:45
Speaker 1: of certain popping artists. You know what I'm saying. People
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Speaker 1: kind of know you as the guy with Ot exactly
14:50
Speaker 1: and Trey Songs and Joe Moses and Whisky Leaf hating
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Speaker 1: around with Tory Lanez. Yeah, yeah, shooting feat Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean neither here there you feel me? But no, I've
15:03
Speaker 1: always been a number two guy for sure, and I've
15:05
Speaker 1: embraced that because I'm like, I'm one of the people
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Speaker 1: where if I see my homeboy is sitting there doing
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Speaker 1: dope shit, if I can assist him in any type
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Speaker 1: of way, I'm cool. I can play the background. Because
15:15
Speaker 1: once again, it goes back to having that faith and knowing,
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Speaker 1: like you know, I always knew you're gonna be in position.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna be number one. It doesn't matter when it's
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Speaker 1: gonna happen, but you're gonna be number one. So you know,
15:26
Speaker 1: I see my brothers they need some assistance. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: help them out. I'm gonna be hype man. I'm gonna
15:31
Speaker 1: do the social media shit. At one point in time,
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Speaker 1: I was posting all Joe Moses shit. You feel me.
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Speaker 1: I was hype man for him something. You know, when
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Speaker 1: he ain't have a whip, You feel me Me Me and
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Speaker 1: him thugging out my baby mama car. We driving around everywhere,
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Speaker 1: same as ot. We're taking a whip, We going places.
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Speaker 1: And that's the type of person I am. So I
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Speaker 1: feel like t Real too. You know, he's always been
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Speaker 1: a number two guy. And we know what it's like
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Speaker 1: when you not really around them, certain artists no more,
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Speaker 1: how motherfucker has changed on you, how they look at you.
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Speaker 1: It's like, if you not around your home boy, we
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Speaker 1: don't want nothing to do with you. You You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. You felt that, Yeah, I felt that before.
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Speaker 1: I just feel like everyone loves you. Yeah, but you
16:09
Speaker 1: know the DJs, but it was certain individuals where like, nah,
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Speaker 1: they wasn't really fucking with me. It was cool. It
16:15
Speaker 1: wasn't no beef, but like to where how I used
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Speaker 1: to see people and they were showing me super super love.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't like that. But people always remember, like, man,
16:23
Speaker 1: you always been a cool guy. So as they see
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Speaker 1: me coming up, they're like, Okay, you know, we'll fuck
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Speaker 1: with him. We'll fuck with him and shit like that.
16:29
Speaker 1: Has Ot thought about doing a podcast. He's not thought
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Speaker 1: about doing a pod, but I recently had him on
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Speaker 1: some streams and he's been loving it. So I've been like,
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Speaker 1: I've literally for a whole year been trying to convince
16:40
Speaker 1: him nigga because he loves Madden, and I'm like, Nigga,
16:42
Speaker 1: get a set up and just talking shit. Because out
16:45
Speaker 1: of everybody in this industry, Ot probably got one of
16:48
Speaker 1: the best personalities on He's hilarious, hilarious, and people don't
16:51
Speaker 1: I feel like because Ot doesn't drop albums. He just
16:53
Speaker 1: dropped songs. Ot is one of the weirdest rap careers ever. Yes,
16:57
Speaker 1: because this guy has fucking hit racks records, but he
17:01
Speaker 1: doesn't put out any bodies of work. No, he just
17:03
Speaker 1: throws out these moments and then he goes away or no,
17:07
Speaker 1: then he goes to the club. But you know, like
17:10
Speaker 1: or he'll pop up on like an RJ album or something.
17:12
Speaker 1: But it's like, it's crazy all the records sold and
17:15
Speaker 1: he I think he's put out one project. He's he's
17:20
Speaker 1: yet to surprise me when it comes down to that
17:23
Speaker 1: ship Like back then, like I swear to guy, I
17:25
Speaker 1: remember when he first got his deal and he had
17:29
Speaker 1: got a large advance and we were going to the
17:33
Speaker 1: which time the first time now was a unit. That
17:37
Speaker 1: was the unit when he first signed with Buster. Yes,
17:42
Speaker 1: and listen, he got this advance and we were going
17:45
Speaker 1: to the club and I'm watching it. I'm like, bro,
17:48
Speaker 1: spending too much money. And he's telling me, where are
17:51
Speaker 1: you coming or what. I'm like, I'm coming, Bro, but
17:53
Speaker 1: I'm a homeboy. I'm gonna tell you to recoup. Bro,
17:56
Speaker 1: this is a lot of money you spending. We were
17:58
Speaker 1: going to the club ten fifteen minutes before a close.
18:01
Speaker 1: Oh give me some don ps, like give me this.
18:03
Speaker 1: We're not gonna finish these bottles. And I'm like, listen
18:06
Speaker 1: at this time, I'm like, you haven't produced a record
18:09
Speaker 1: yet for these people, you know what I'm saying. And
18:12
Speaker 1: he's like, bro, I got it, sure enough. It was
18:15
Speaker 1: a video and I think the song was called Yum Yum.
18:19
Speaker 1: We were at the Yum Yum video shoot, and you know,
18:22
Speaker 1: I feel like the label was probably like, Okay, he's
18:26
Speaker 1: not doing nothing. You feel me. That man took his
18:30
Speaker 1: own money. He did Coco took his own money, shot
18:35
Speaker 1: his own video, and the shit went viral. Yeah, and
18:40
Speaker 1: I watched that. I watched that, and and my dumb
18:43
Speaker 1: ass was supposed to be in the video ended up
18:46
Speaker 1: getting getting there super late. I came at the tail
18:49
Speaker 1: end of it, and I'm like, god, damn nigga missed
18:51
Speaker 1: that viral moment. I feel like Ot is one of
18:55
Speaker 1: those artists that we look at as his music is
18:57
Speaker 1: bigger than him. But I feel like if he did
18:59
Speaker 1: a podcast, asked or he was like, because he's so funny, bro,
19:03
Speaker 1: if you ever look at his Instagram stories, bro, and
19:05
Speaker 1: that's that's where I get the shift from he's just
19:07
Speaker 1: a maniac, he's hilarious. That's where I get the shift
19:09
Speaker 1: from his Instagram stories are so fucking calculated and like
19:13
Speaker 1: it's so entertaining or just him crip walking, Yeah, Cript,
19:17
Speaker 1: I mean you're by your terrible crip walker. Yeah, Big
19:19
Speaker 1: U killed me off. If we're gonna shout the Big
19:22
Speaker 1: U man, Big You, that's kind of the reason why
19:24
Speaker 1: I'll be crip walking no more. I get you shouldn't. No,
19:27
Speaker 1: Big You got me on a bad day. I was listen,
19:30
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you all this too. I was at
19:32
Speaker 1: a lingerie party you feel me and viral? Yes, yes,
19:37
Speaker 1: I had the tux seed on, I had the hard
19:39
Speaker 1: bottoms on, drunk as fuck, and I start trying to
19:43
Speaker 1: walk slurring, and Big You recorded it and then put
19:46
Speaker 1: it on the internet and yeah, my sea walking days
19:49
Speaker 1: is over. It's only in private, I think, Uh, for you,
19:58
Speaker 1: I feel like you're I mean, Adam definitely acknowledges this.
20:01
Speaker 1: You kind of are responsible for, like the pivot in
20:04
Speaker 1: No Jumper being like a universe. You were like the
20:07
Speaker 1: first guy to come in and be like, I guess
20:09
Speaker 1: maybe change up the business model a bit in terms
20:11
Speaker 1: of like now you can do interviews, Yeah, you know
20:15
Speaker 1: what I mean. And then just I feel like bringing
20:18
Speaker 1: in different personalities because it's now No Jumper. I watched
20:21
Speaker 1: the interview you guys did with Rory and Mall and
20:26
Speaker 1: you guys are just a lot of game man be
20:29
Speaker 1: cause you know our shit is guest based. But you know,
20:32
Speaker 1: I got my radio show, I got so much shit
20:33
Speaker 1: going on. But it is very true what y'all were
20:35
Speaker 1: saying that, Like now you guys don't have to do
20:38
Speaker 1: interviews anymore. All of the content is really just about y'all.
20:41
Speaker 1: Like jo I dived into this fucking poetic flock oh
20:44
Speaker 1: fucking rabbit hole yesterday on your guys' this clip channel,
20:48
Speaker 1: and it's all just shit about like y'all, Like you
20:51
Speaker 1: guys have built this fucking crazy universe, Like is there
20:56
Speaker 1: is there? Like when you have the seniority over everybody,
21:00
Speaker 1: But like do you get paid per like episode like
21:03
Speaker 1: how it performs, or you like on a salary like
21:08
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's some of both. Because I have
21:10
Speaker 1: the food shows there too, which is Fire, halland Raise.
21:16
Speaker 1: I've watched I've watched almost all of them. Yeah that's
21:18
Speaker 1: that's you know. I mean that Stot was on the
21:20
Speaker 1: phone in that fucking episode. It's not the one that
21:23
Speaker 1: set up anything, you know, our median Stop halland Raise.
21:27
Speaker 1: It's not me. Whoa, whoa shout out to Hallo raise. Nah,
21:33
Speaker 1: very surprised. It's it's it's dope though, because you know,
21:37
Speaker 1: I don't know why I don't believed to me, you
21:39
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But he gave me free reign
21:42
Speaker 1: to basically do what I want to do. He's trusted
21:44
Speaker 1: some of the people I suggested to come to the
21:46
Speaker 1: platform behind it. Even when we're on camera, people sometimes
21:50
Speaker 1: they'd be like, I don't like each other and stuff
21:52
Speaker 1: like that, like the nigga literally just set up another
21:54
Speaker 1: game change and play for me behind the scenes. That
21:57
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with No Jumper. So it's like,
22:00
Speaker 1: you know, he he's not one of them people that
22:02
Speaker 1: holds the wealth. He'll spread it to you and stuff
22:04
Speaker 1: like that too, and so I appreciate him. You know,
22:06
Speaker 1: he's family family. Na. He definitely seems like, uh, you know,
22:09
Speaker 1: I've talked to Adam a lot, and I always tell
22:11
Speaker 1: people like he's like a nice guy, dude, Like he's
22:14
Speaker 1: a grinch though, No, but I'm saying, like, dude, even
22:17
Speaker 1: four or five years ago when I was like originally
22:19
Speaker 1: gonna launch my podcast, like he pulled up to my
22:21
Speaker 1: house and did an interview with me in my basement,
22:23
Speaker 1: and it was like, he's always been a very giving dude,
22:28
Speaker 1: at least from what I perceive. If he fucks at you,
22:30
Speaker 1: he fucks at you for sure. If you don't like you,
22:32
Speaker 1: he's gonna ignore he's gonna ignore you. You know what
22:34
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, And it's been it's been people on
22:37
Speaker 1: the team that said, hey, hey man, I used to
22:38
Speaker 1: hit you up. I dissed you. You know what I'm saying,
22:41
Speaker 1: Like he was like people like on no Jumper Jumper, Wow, yeah,
22:46
Speaker 1: like I mighty suspect her somebody. I ain't saying no
22:50
Speaker 1: names suspect. It's kind of crazy though, like just some
22:53
Speaker 1: of the inter twitings of like the drama. You somehow
22:55
Speaker 1: always are very uh You're like Switzerland, You're very neutral
22:59
Speaker 1: with everybody that there's so much craziness going on in
23:02
Speaker 1: that Dot Jumper billions. I mean, you got to you
23:05
Speaker 1: gotta understand. It's like, well, you know my background in
23:09
Speaker 1: LA with the politics and stuff like that, I just
23:12
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people, you know, certain situations
23:15
Speaker 1: ain't that serious. And if I can intervene, and you
23:18
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, make that shit help help that situation,
23:21
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna do that because you know, I know
23:23
Speaker 1: what it's like to come from different shit and different circumstances.
23:28
Speaker 1: So now that I'm in position over here, I don't
23:31
Speaker 1: want nothing to fuck that up. And a lot of
23:33
Speaker 1: times something somebody else does can affect the whole team.
23:36
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It can affect the money.
23:38
Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, nigga, don't cut the fucking money.
23:40
Speaker 1: You fuck with my money. Now, I ain't no more
23:42
Speaker 1: neutral nothing. It's to hold an the ball game. Yeah,
23:45
Speaker 1: because I even look at like the way you handle
23:47
Speaker 1: the Flocko thing, Like yesterday you were talking like you
23:49
Speaker 1: were you were kind of being sympathetic to his mental health, bro,
23:52
Speaker 1: because as a person who've had mental health issues, you
23:55
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If you ever watch me, I
23:57
Speaker 1: always talk about that like I've had super severe anxiety,
24:03
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Once I stopped drinking hard liquor,
24:06
Speaker 1: man for like three four months, I was I was
24:10
Speaker 1: super depressed, you know, having insomnia, Like I just feel
24:15
Speaker 1: like I was at a fucking terrible point in my life.
24:18
Speaker 1: And I know mentally, a lot of times, man, especially
24:22
Speaker 1: for somebody like Flaco, he's from North Dakota. He you know,
24:25
Speaker 1: he don't. He doesn't look like us, he doesn't act
24:27
Speaker 1: like us. He does things that are different, but that
24:30
Speaker 1: you know he has. He takes so much fucking hate
24:33
Speaker 1: and it's like, I think it. I think it all
24:34
Speaker 1: really started once he he had that moment with that
24:37
Speaker 1: dude who spit in his face. Yes, and you were
24:39
Speaker 1: sitting there like I didn't sign up for this shit.
24:43
Speaker 1: But even even even that like that, a situation like
24:48
Speaker 1: that is like, you gotta think about that. You get
24:49
Speaker 1: spit on, You feel me, got everybody talking about you
24:52
Speaker 1: all the time. Sure, and it's like that nigga got
24:55
Speaker 1: feelings too. You feel me, and we don't know mentally
24:58
Speaker 1: what he's going through. It seems like a nice guy.
25:00
Speaker 1: He is nice, and I'm like, you know, God forbid,
25:03
Speaker 1: something happened to this man or he felt like he
25:05
Speaker 1: can't take it no more. You feel me. I want
25:07
Speaker 1: to at least be like, you know, I'm somebody that
25:10
Speaker 1: was nice to you. You feel me. And I joke
25:12
Speaker 1: on him too, like I say certain things to him,
25:15
Speaker 1: I call him, I joke on him, I play around,
25:17
Speaker 1: I troll into we all do that shit. But at
25:19
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25:21
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25:24
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Speaker 1: back to the interview. Were you going to be a
26:36
Speaker 1: part of the uh Kanye Western interview that didn't happen? Yeah?
26:40
Speaker 1: Was that that was the Nick Finn test thing? Uh huh,
26:42
Speaker 1: So shout out to my guy Guilty. So Guilty is
26:45
Speaker 1: a guy behind the scenes. I don't know how he
26:47
Speaker 1: does it, but he contacts everybody. He's put He's put
26:52
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff together. The first Nick Finn
26:54
Speaker 1: says interview, he actually arranged that. I was gonna say
26:57
Speaker 1: that was kind of a weird because I didn't know
26:59
Speaker 1: anything about Nick fuintest. And I've seen you guys talk
27:02
Speaker 1: about like how like you know, we probably you know,
27:05
Speaker 1: it probably wasn't the most productive conversation. No, I didn't
27:08
Speaker 1: know anything about this dude, and I just saw I
27:10
Speaker 1: think I saw Adam talking about it somewhere, just like
27:13
Speaker 1: people are gonna be pissed about this. I was like, Oh,
27:15
Speaker 1: let me see what the food the fuck this guy is.
27:17
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this guy's kind of like a
27:19
Speaker 1: he's kind of like a white nationalist. Is No. But
27:23
Speaker 1: even that situation that showed me like, you have to
27:28
Speaker 1: I have to do my due diligence and before you
27:30
Speaker 1: talk to anybody, to talk to anybody, you know, like
27:32
Speaker 1: I just a lot of times I get to just
27:34
Speaker 1: use my personality and coast on certain stuff, and I'm
27:37
Speaker 1: not even putting myself in a situation where I got
27:40
Speaker 1: to hold it down for my culture and I have
27:42
Speaker 1: to hold it down for my people being an African
27:44
Speaker 1: American man. So if somebody has viewpoints and they're sitting
27:47
Speaker 1: there saying some stuff to me and I don't know
27:49
Speaker 1: how to counter that, you know, it's kind of like
27:52
Speaker 1: a letdown for my whole community. So that first interview
27:55
Speaker 1: showed me where it was like, Okay, I need to
27:57
Speaker 1: be more prepared and I just can't not studying, not
28:01
Speaker 1: you know, get all the facts before I jump in
28:03
Speaker 1: the ring with somebody like that. Was that an interview
28:05
Speaker 1: that you you got negative feedback from from like like
28:08
Speaker 1: just like you said, like, do people think you didn't
28:10
Speaker 1: do enoughing? Yeah, they're like they're like, you should have
28:12
Speaker 1: said this, you should have known this, you should have
28:14
Speaker 1: known that. And I agree. I'm like, yeah, I should
28:17
Speaker 1: have did way better when it came down to that,
28:18
Speaker 1: because you know, not knowing the history, Like that's not
28:21
Speaker 1: no excuse. I have all these resources. I'm in position
28:25
Speaker 1: people look up to me, and I feel like I
28:26
Speaker 1: got to be a good representation for them. So if
28:29
Speaker 1: somebody's coming at my people or saying certain certain things,
28:32
Speaker 1: like I got to be able to count that and
28:34
Speaker 1: do an intelligence least. So when the Kanye thing was
28:36
Speaker 1: about to happen, Oh I did it already. I was
28:40
Speaker 1: studying for like three days. Didn't nobody know. I didn't
28:42
Speaker 1: tell nobody, but I literally was a deep diving getting
28:46
Speaker 1: all my facts together because I'm like, if anybody say anything,
28:49
Speaker 1: I'm about to I'm about to be there. They just
28:52
Speaker 1: didn't pull up. I think Kanye is canceled on everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
28:56
Speaker 1: it's crazy. That would have been a legendary. It would
28:58
Speaker 1: have been legendary do you feel like because I feel
29:01
Speaker 1: like with your relationships in hip hop, you have yet
29:06
Speaker 1: to in my opinion, really like lean on them too
29:11
Speaker 1: much for guests, because I know the people who you're
29:13
Speaker 1: super tight with, and like, out of those guys, like
29:15
Speaker 1: I know you've had Wiz on mm hm, he had
29:17
Speaker 1: ot on, but like you got other guys that like
29:20
Speaker 1: a lot. You probably could have pulled Tory on if
29:22
Speaker 1: you really wanted to before all this a lot pray
29:25
Speaker 1: we could go on and on and on, but like,
29:27
Speaker 1: is that something that you try to kind of keep
29:29
Speaker 1: separate to where you're like, look, these are my friendships
29:31
Speaker 1: and if it happens, it's going to be organic. It's
29:33
Speaker 1: I'm not going to like hawk somebody to try to
29:35
Speaker 1: come on the show. I've never even with wiz Wiz
29:38
Speaker 1: hit me up, was like, Hey you still doing podcasts?
29:40
Speaker 1: I want to come on here? Yeah, ot like I
29:42
Speaker 1: want to come on here. It's like I don't want
29:45
Speaker 1: to like put that in the ear. You feel me.
29:47
Speaker 1: It's like you know, if you see it, if you
29:48
Speaker 1: see what's going on and you want to come on,
29:50
Speaker 1: I rather you do that versus me like, hey, bro,
29:53
Speaker 1: do this favorite for me because let's keep it real.
29:55
Speaker 1: That's all these niggas do anyway, all they do is
29:57
Speaker 1: get favor. Bro, Can you do this for me? Can
29:59
Speaker 1: do this for me? Can you do this for me?
30:00
Speaker 1: Can do this for me? It's like, nah, I want
30:01
Speaker 1: to be one of the people. It's like, nigga, I
30:03
Speaker 1: want to when we're friends, were friends, We're gonna hang out,
30:05
Speaker 1: we're gonna turn up, We're gonna do that. Keep it.
30:07
Speaker 1: That's our relationship. We keep that shit separate. That's a
30:09
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. Yeah, what's for you? Like, what was the
30:12
Speaker 1: one time you, guys, you've done an interview so far
30:16
Speaker 1: where you feel like you you kind of hit your
30:19
Speaker 1: you know, doing interviews like rapping, you get better, you
30:22
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But what was kind of for you,
30:24
Speaker 1: like the peak interview where you were like, oh, I
30:26
Speaker 1: felt most comfortable. This was my best conversation. You want
30:31
Speaker 1: to those crazy shout outs, tim I got nineteen keys,
30:33
Speaker 1: you feel me? I think that was like one of
30:35
Speaker 1: the ones where I was like, oh, this is dope.
30:37
Speaker 1: But you know one thing that people don't know, you
30:39
Speaker 1: usually don't see me interviewing nobody. That's true, you know
30:43
Speaker 1: what I mean? I usually co host on a lot
30:46
Speaker 1: of the interviews with Adam or all doing with t Real,
30:48
Speaker 1: or there a guest on. Yeah, there's a guest on
30:50
Speaker 1: the show. So and the reason being, I have so
30:54
Speaker 1: many relationships, you know, smaller skill to higher skill. I
30:58
Speaker 1: already know what that shit's gonna be. One of my
31:01
Speaker 1: favorites was the Massi combo. Yeah, it was like it
31:03
Speaker 1: was like it was it was like but it's natural.
31:06
Speaker 1: It was natural. It wasn't like an interview. It was
31:07
Speaker 1: like he was just a part of your guys. I
31:09
Speaker 1: just want you to come. You want to come, sit
31:10
Speaker 1: down with a d I want you to come kick it,
31:12
Speaker 1: be yourself. I'm not gonna ask you no incriminating shit.
31:15
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna ask you no weird shit. I want
31:18
Speaker 1: you to come. Have a good time. You feel me, Smoke, drink, dude,
31:21
Speaker 1: what the fuck you do? Loose en up and show
31:23
Speaker 1: people a good side of you, because, like I know,
31:25
Speaker 1: like Mazzi has a stigma on him. People he's crazy,
31:28
Speaker 1: he's crazy, he's crazy. He came on on the show
31:30
Speaker 1: and just joking around and people like, damn, I ain't
31:32
Speaker 1: never seen Mazzi like that. So if I could put
31:34
Speaker 1: that in the air. Then that's what That's what it is.
31:37
Speaker 1: Do you find yourself if you're friends with people and
31:40
Speaker 1: you know that they have pretty big issues with other people?
31:43
Speaker 1: Because I like the note jumper thing is like, I
31:46
Speaker 1: mean when when krit Mak was coming up d a
31:49
Speaker 1: lot with t Rel being in the building, it's just
31:51
Speaker 1: like I was like, Yo, that shit, that shit's crazy,
31:54
Speaker 1: Like this guy's got whatever he's got tattooed on his
31:56
Speaker 1: fucking forehead and Trell's a main host there. Like it
31:59
Speaker 1: just it was do you find yourself like turning down
32:02
Speaker 1: shit or not being a part of certain shit maybe
32:04
Speaker 1: because of the relationships you have outside of being a
32:08
Speaker 1: I mean, loyalty is always going to be number one
32:10
Speaker 1: of my book before anything, like I don't care about
32:14
Speaker 1: shit like that. But you know, Trail has grown enough
32:17
Speaker 1: and he doesn't care, you feel me? If you know,
32:20
Speaker 1: if krip Mac wasn't how he is, Trail probably wouldn't
32:25
Speaker 1: have no problems sitting down him. He sat down with
32:26
Speaker 1: Odem Slim, and I thought that that was super big
32:30
Speaker 1: for the culture in the streets. That yeah, like ship
32:34
Speaker 1: like that is super dope. So Trail has it to
32:37
Speaker 1: where he's looking at the bigger picture of where he
32:40
Speaker 1: wants to be placed in his history. And see Mac
32:43
Speaker 1: is just se Mac. You feel me, he stands on
32:45
Speaker 1: this ship. He you know he is. He is who
32:48
Speaker 1: he is and that's why people love him. So I mean,
32:51
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32:53
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32:56
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32:59
Speaker 1: or wrong? Have you turned down an interview because you
33:01
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33:04
Speaker 1: might feel some type of way not turned down an interview?
33:08
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33:10
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33:12
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33:14
Speaker 1: in it. Yeah I'm cool. Like I ain't gonna I
33:16
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33:19
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33:22
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33:27
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33:29
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33:31
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33:34
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33:36
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33:41
Speaker 1: first of all, shout to China mact go because you
33:44
Speaker 1: guys had a very interesting altercation. You got shot the
33:48
Speaker 1: fair fade, and now you guys are fucking making content together.
33:51
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33:55
Speaker 1: Going my guy to me, that's like a situation where
33:59
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34:02
Speaker 1: in hip hop, this in general, men being men. Yeah,
34:05
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34:08
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34:11
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's crazy that like
34:13
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34:16
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34:18
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34:21
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34:24
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34:26
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34:29
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34:32
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34:34
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34:37
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34:40
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34:43
Speaker 1: that up. And if it can't be handled with words,
34:45
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34:47
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34:48
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34:51
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34:53
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34:55
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34:57
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34:59
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35:02
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35:05
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35:07
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35:10
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35:12
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35:37
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35:50
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36:00
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38:00
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38:02
Speaker 1: What are you doing on the rap side, You've been
38:03
Speaker 1: putting out some looci'es. You've been throwing some singles out
38:05
Speaker 1: there here and there. I got some big ship going you.
38:08
Speaker 1: Once again, I had a fucking I have some balances
38:10
Speaker 1: that had to clear. They're clear now. But you know
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Speaker 1: me and I'll just say me and Don Canna got
38:17
Speaker 1: a whole project. It's almost done that he's producing whole day.
38:21
Speaker 1: Shot to Don Cannon man shows up, Krashan, you feel me?
38:25
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38:27
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38:30
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38:31
Speaker 1: drop a clabby people with Krashan rock or not? No, no,
38:36
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38:39
Speaker 1: I heard some records somebody was playing it. I think
38:44
Speaker 1: it was casting was playing me some oh yeah he
38:46
Speaker 1: or some ship some ship that was like crazy, like
38:49
Speaker 1: just barring, barring the fuck out. It was like I
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Speaker 1: hit maker Kashan, Like this ship is out here. Would
39:00
Speaker 1: you do you feel like you're doing like music now
39:03
Speaker 1: because you want to, not because you have to? And
39:05
Speaker 1: does the music get better there? Nah? I just feel
39:08
Speaker 1: like now I don't have to force shit out. I could.
39:10
Speaker 1: I can put out quality versus quantity because you know,
39:14
Speaker 1: I don't have to live off of music no more.
39:16
Speaker 1: But that wasn't The goal was to be just successful.
39:19
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying something yeah, something, just be
39:22
Speaker 1: just be successful. So it's like now and then too,
39:24
Speaker 1: Like I hate people putting that stigma on that you
39:27
Speaker 1: can only be great at one thing, but you can
39:29
Speaker 1: only be you know the face of this and doing that.
39:31
Speaker 1: And it's like I look up to ice Cube. I
39:34
Speaker 1: look up to Donald Glover where I'm like, man, listen,
39:36
Speaker 1: like Donald Glover. You see him do stand up? You
39:39
Speaker 1: see him you know producing Atlanta att Yeah, you could
39:43
Speaker 1: drop music. You could do that. And it's and there's
39:45
Speaker 1: no ceiling for him. Ice Cube, you feel me? I
39:48
Speaker 1: mean you were in Dave too, Yeah, and Dave. I'm
39:50
Speaker 1: actually too, man, if this comes out in time, I'm
39:53
Speaker 1: in the New House Party movie too. I heard a
39:55
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39:57
Speaker 1: lot of people in that movie. I'm in the movie
39:59
Speaker 1: and I got a song in the movie. A lot
40:01
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40:03
Speaker 1: are you gonna try to dive into that side? Hell? Yeah,
40:05
Speaker 1: I'm care if I'm doing everything. Yeah, I think you
40:08
Speaker 1: should write a sitcomer. So I'm doing it. Oh, bro,
40:10
Speaker 1: I would love doing sitcom. But yeah, Bro, I just
40:12
Speaker 1: feel like the sky is the limit, Like it's nothing
40:15
Speaker 1: I can't do it even right now, people like they're like, bro,
40:18
Speaker 1: you're killing that podcast and killing it at streaming, Like
40:21
Speaker 1: they may think this is my ceiling. This is not
40:23
Speaker 1: my ceiling, right you feel me? Who taking this shit
40:25
Speaker 1: even crazier? Put you like if you if just being
40:29
Speaker 1: a fan of the culture and having the friends you have,
40:32
Speaker 1: who's somebody who hasn't thought about doing a podcast who
40:35
Speaker 1: you think would just fucking destroy it if they ever
40:38
Speaker 1: got in front of a mic and did this shit? Uhh,
40:41
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Artists wise, are just a genuine artist.
40:51
Speaker 1: I would have to say, honestly, I think Gibbs would
40:58
Speaker 1: be fucking funny as fuck for for a podcast. Well,
41:01
Speaker 1: you know, we've we've talked a gangster Gibbs have talked
41:04
Speaker 1: about it over and over and over. Oh so he
41:06
Speaker 1: thinking about it. We've yeah, we've had our Yeah, we're
41:09
Speaker 1: being him. Were supposed to do something like two years ago.
41:11
Speaker 1: I think I think he has the personality because he
41:15
Speaker 1: the way he talks in general, and how he tweets
41:18
Speaker 1: and says certain things. I think he would be good.
41:20
Speaker 1: He's got to do it. Sober Freddie drunk on camera
41:23
Speaker 1: three episodes in He's canceled Hey, yes, yes, but I
41:27
Speaker 1: think like that'd be entertainment. I watched it. No, Freddi
41:29
Speaker 1: Gibbs would be amazing. Uh yeah, there's a few guys,
41:32
Speaker 1: but Fred's Fred to me is the one, yeah, for sure,
41:34
Speaker 1: because he'd be doing stand up and ship and all that. Uh.
41:37
Speaker 1: How do you feeling about just LA hip hop right now? Man?
41:39
Speaker 1: Because you were part of an era that was like
41:42
Speaker 1: I think of you, I think r J. I think
41:44
Speaker 1: just that whole class that was you guys are kind
41:46
Speaker 1: of like veterans now, which is kind of crazy, But
41:48
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like LA right now is in
41:50
Speaker 1: a place where a lot more people are working together
41:55
Speaker 1: then I feel like it used to be, even though
41:57
Speaker 1: there's still separation of politics and all that. Man got too,
42:00
Speaker 1: But you know, I feel like a lot of these
42:02
Speaker 1: younger kids are kind of like embracing each other a
42:04
Speaker 1: little bit more than I've you know, seen in previous
42:08
Speaker 1: I guess classes. But how are you feeling about what?
42:11
Speaker 1: I think? I think that you know, and I love
42:13
Speaker 1: all the new guys that are out. You feel me?
42:15
Speaker 1: Shot out to Bino, Shout out the Blast, Shout out
42:18
Speaker 1: the Blue Bugs, Shout out to Kaelin for real, for
42:20
Speaker 1: real Woodchi, Who am I missing? Who am I missing?
42:24
Speaker 1: Give me some names? One take one take as child,
42:29
Speaker 1: Yellow Hills Dope, Oh yeah, hey, yellow Hills doing this thing?
42:32
Speaker 1: Sony A matter of time for Yellow Hill, Sony, A
42:34
Speaker 1: matter of time for Yellow Hill. Who am I missing?
42:36
Speaker 1: Who am I missing? Lot? Even Ralphie Man, Ralphy be
42:39
Speaker 1: killing it. I love I love Ralphie music. You know
42:41
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Baby, strong guerrillas. You know what. Perico
42:46
Speaker 1: still holding it down too. You gotta get Perrico his credit,
42:49
Speaker 1: killing it. He's killing you. Gotta get miss credit. It's
42:53
Speaker 1: a it's a lot of it's a lot of dope
42:54
Speaker 1: guys out here. And shout out to the niggas in
42:56
Speaker 1: the I E. Two. Hey that's somebody who could do
42:58
Speaker 1: a podcast. Japeriica, Prico's funny, He's so funny. Oh yeah no.
43:01
Speaker 1: But I feel like now, you know, how music translates
43:05
Speaker 1: now in the city is way more harder because I
43:09
Speaker 1: was a hot new hip hop baby. You feel me
43:11
Speaker 1: like I got discovered on how new hip hop and
43:14
Speaker 1: I had my you know when I felt like I
43:16
Speaker 1: needed to drop albums, they're right there front page, that
43:19
Speaker 1: pif right there, High New hip hop and the discovery
43:22
Speaker 1: for new artists now was just so fucking hard. It's
43:24
Speaker 1: like everybody chasing TikTok, but I ain't really organic like that,
43:28
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Chasing that. Yeah, you might
43:30
Speaker 1: catch a moment, but you ain't got no no concert tickets. Yeah,
43:33
Speaker 1: And I mean, now, the club scene is so fucking dry,
43:38
Speaker 1: and that's how we got our records out there. You
43:41
Speaker 1: feel me them supper clubs, them playhouses. You'll be able
43:45
Speaker 1: to go to LA club and hear some shit and
43:47
Speaker 1: be like, oh, what's this? Yeah, everybody knows it. Everybody
43:50
Speaker 1: knows it. And then you go back home and you
43:51
Speaker 1: learning that shit. But like and that's how like you know,
43:54
Speaker 1: the bookings and stuff like that, that's what kept us afloat.
43:57
Speaker 1: And yeah, the club shit out here. I mean and listen,
43:59
Speaker 1: I'm to the point in my life where I don't
44:00
Speaker 1: go out unless and getting paid or it unless it's
44:02
Speaker 1: like an event that it really makes sense for me
44:04
Speaker 1: to go. So I'm kind of like I just remember,
44:07
Speaker 1: Like I feel like since the pandemic, the club scene
44:10
Speaker 1: has yet to fully really rebound the way it was
44:14
Speaker 1: for for like local La hip hop music. Now, I
44:19
Speaker 1: don't know, Like I hear that there are some spots,
44:21
Speaker 1: like I know that the LA function is cool, the
44:23
Speaker 1: LA Function Supreme Teams, Dragon Dragon, Dragonfly too, But but
44:28
Speaker 1: I mean, like as far as the impact, it's not
44:31
Speaker 1: there like people used to. I want to go to
44:33
Speaker 1: LA to go to supper club or the playoffs, and
44:37
Speaker 1: right now on some fly type ship. I mean, you know,
44:41
Speaker 1: shout out to my guy, uh, Scott, I mean my guy,
44:45
Speaker 1: Sean my bad, I said, Scott Wednesday's Highlight Room. You
44:49
Speaker 1: feel me, Yeah, Sean Dickerson, my gos Sean Dickerson, I said, Scott,
44:53
Speaker 1: what's that sadik right be booming? Yeah, but that's but
44:56
Speaker 1: that's not that. But that's not nobody, not a lot
44:59
Speaker 1: of people and get into that. No, nobody, And they're
45:03
Speaker 1: not playing no LA music, not playing no LA music. No,
45:06
Speaker 1: it's a vibe. It's a vibe though, and you're running
45:08
Speaker 1: to the who's who of the world. Yeah, but there's
45:10
Speaker 1: no like LA culture up there. No, but LA culture wise,
45:13
Speaker 1: Like I feel like y'all have to stick together now,
45:18
Speaker 1: you'll have to do music with each other. Now, you'll
45:20
Speaker 1: have to do concerts with each other now because I'm
45:23
Speaker 1: loving all the shows that have been happening at the Roxy. Yeah,
45:25
Speaker 1: it's been dope. It's been super dope. Started Kayling yesterday.
45:28
Speaker 1: He about to go back on tour. K Yeah, we
45:30
Speaker 1: got a fire record coming out. That's gonna be the
45:33
Speaker 1: first thing I dropped coming back and real for real.
45:36
Speaker 1: And then you've been dropping records tell here and there. Yeah,
45:38
Speaker 1: just to test the walls and see the climate is
45:40
Speaker 1: like yeah, I mean, dude, you're you're bigger than you've
45:42
Speaker 1: ever been. Yeah, So the music is gonna But that's
45:45
Speaker 1: the that's the thing, like if you think of Okay,
45:47
Speaker 1: so you think about the process of music now, right,
45:50
Speaker 1: and I own a studio now, so let's eliminate owning
45:53
Speaker 1: the studio. You have to book studio time, you have
45:57
Speaker 1: to pay the producer, you have to do the song.
45:59
Speaker 1: You got to get it mixed, you gotta get it mastered,
46:02
Speaker 1: you gotta do the video. You got to put it out,
46:04
Speaker 1: and hopefully you got to figure out a way to
46:06
Speaker 1: make money off of that because you're already for people
46:08
Speaker 1: who don't know, thirty nine every million streams on Spotify.
46:12
Speaker 1: That's it so and you have to hope that it
46:14
Speaker 1: accumulates that to get your investment back, versus I can
46:17
Speaker 1: go downstairs and make three grand tonight. Yo. That's crazy.
46:21
Speaker 1: So you know the urgency of it is like, you know,
46:24
Speaker 1: I want to put out shit that I feel is perfect.
46:28
Speaker 1: You know, it's dope. I don't have to rush anything.
46:30
Speaker 1: There's no fillers in there, and we could sit there
46:33
Speaker 1: and see if the songs age over time because a
46:36
Speaker 1: lot of the shit I deal with Cannon, some of
46:38
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46:41
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46:43
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46:46
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46:50
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46:52
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46:55
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46:57
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47:00
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47:02
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47:05
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47:08
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Speaker 1: You know, I was I was eating at a Philibertos
49:09
Speaker 1: about four thirty in the morning last weekend, and I
49:12
Speaker 1: thought to myself, for La be in La? Why is
49:15
Speaker 1: there no fucking, real, fucking all night food popping. Isn't
49:20
Speaker 1: that shit crazy? Like I can't go get a burrito
49:23
Speaker 1: at four forty five in the morning in La. The
49:25
Speaker 1: taco trucks are all closed value where Crave Nigga, Crave Cafe?
49:30
Speaker 1: Where the fuck is that? Bro nigga? It is literally
49:33
Speaker 1: is there a driver? Like three of them are out there?
49:35
Speaker 1: Is there a drive through? No driving? Fuck out of here.
49:37
Speaker 1: I want to drive through and give me a fucking
49:40
Speaker 1: California brito at four in the morning. True, And it's like,
49:43
Speaker 1: it's La. You can post made it fu post? You
49:48
Speaker 1: know what they got that post? They got that white
49:50
Speaker 1: hut shit that that what the great white hut that
49:52
Speaker 1: they just opened. It's good enough because it's the only
49:56
Speaker 1: fucking thing you can get food from. Guess what? You
49:59
Speaker 1: can just drive through? No no drive through. There's a
50:03
Speaker 1: certain shit about La that really bothers me because it's
50:05
Speaker 1: La and it should be like should be booming, it
50:08
Speaker 1: should be all night. I should be able to go
50:09
Speaker 1: get food. I should have more options than Jack in
50:13
Speaker 1: the box. That's all I'm saying. I know I'd be
50:14
Speaker 1: trying to like, let me hear and go to the
50:16
Speaker 1: hibachi before you open it all? What do you I
50:19
Speaker 1: think If I was telling us stout this, I was like, bro,
50:21
Speaker 1: I'm trying to open it all night, just twenty four
50:23
Speaker 1: to seven spot because I feel like it would boom
50:25
Speaker 1: out here. It would because there's nothing. Do you think
50:28
Speaker 1: there's any like restrictions against that. That's why they don't
50:31
Speaker 1: do it. I don't know. I just know I live
50:33
Speaker 1: in Burbank and then Ourmenians be closing down early but early, yeah,
50:38
Speaker 1: because I can't get nothing. I gotta go to Jack
50:40
Speaker 1: in the Box. You live in Burbank, Jason, Are you
50:44
Speaker 1: worried about bringing people to your house when you do
50:46
Speaker 1: the stream? No, because everybody that I bring, like I
50:49
Speaker 1: trust with my life anyway, and everybody everybody okay, and honestly, honestly, like,
50:56
Speaker 1: I don't live in fear, and if it has to
50:58
Speaker 1: go down, prepared for it because I had like a
51:00
Speaker 1: huge I bought a new house in Bourbank and I
51:02
Speaker 1: have like this huge building behind my house, and I
51:05
Speaker 1: was like, I could totally do the podcast right here.
51:07
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck that ship? Well, that's
51:10
Speaker 1: kind of like what you know. The goal is now
51:13
Speaker 1: is to buy a compound and buy a hub so
51:16
Speaker 1: we don't have to just bring everything people to their crib.
51:19
Speaker 1: What's it like? You and Pun have been rocking for
51:22
Speaker 1: so long, and it's dope to see Pun kind of
51:24
Speaker 1: become a personality too, because he's just been up and
51:26
Speaker 1: that was on accident too exactly. I mean, he's been
51:28
Speaker 1: behind the scenes for so long. He's I mean I
51:30
Speaker 1: met Pun, I think originally when he was working with
51:32
Speaker 1: Problem way back in the day, probably when alone, That's
51:35
Speaker 1: when I met him gam alone Problem. Yeah, shout out
51:38
Speaker 1: to Pun, But uh, he's managing you as well, right,
51:41
Speaker 1: and he's been man, I mean, he was managing you
51:45
Speaker 1: wash when was it was? It was Adrian managed you
51:48
Speaker 1: just switched out of Switch Switch. Switch helped me out
51:51
Speaker 1: tremendously when it comes down to that's my brother, always
51:54
Speaker 1: will be my brother. Plumb was one of the people
51:57
Speaker 1: that I appreciate continue to rock with me. I was
52:00
Speaker 1: not making this money for a long period of time
52:03
Speaker 1: and he was still fucking with it and everybody was
52:05
Speaker 1: telling him, why the fuck do you fuck with ad
52:07
Speaker 1: so much? Right? You know what I'm saying. He always
52:09
Speaker 1: told people, Hey, when he finally settles down. When he
52:13
Speaker 1: figures it out, he figures it out, he's gonna pop.
52:15
Speaker 1: He gonna do it the right way. And you know,
52:17
Speaker 1: I'm just glad that now people see like, Okay, you
52:20
Speaker 1: had your to the right person for sure, man, and
52:22
Speaker 1: you're killing it. I'm proud of you, Bro. It's dope
52:25
Speaker 1: to see you. I mean, I fucking I watch your
52:27
Speaker 1: ship all the time. Man. I appreciate it. Bro, I'm
52:29
Speaker 1: proud of you. Bro. I'm like, damn nigga care Bro,
52:31
Speaker 1: we're doing our thing, man, kill it, you know what
52:33
Speaker 1: I'm saying, new spot coming, Yeah, you know, and uh
52:37
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I'm doing my thing. Yeah. But it's
52:41
Speaker 1: dope to see what you're doing, Bro, And I think, like,
52:44
Speaker 1: real shit, this guy's the limit. Dog. You just gotta
52:46
Speaker 1: fucking keep doing your thing, keep pressing your line. Oh bro,
52:51
Speaker 1: I got especially for this year, I got so many
52:54
Speaker 1: things were about to do. Yeah. Is it like weird
52:57
Speaker 1: going out in public and getting recognized for just being
52:59
Speaker 1: like a guy who talks shit now honestly like that shit. Yeah? Yeah,
53:02
Speaker 1: you know it like it really it really gets me
53:05
Speaker 1: when I see like a mom don't know who I am,
53:09
Speaker 1: and it's like her. Her three teenagers run to me, Hey,
53:13
Speaker 1: d hey, hey, how you doing a mom clean? They're like, okay,
53:15
Speaker 1: you must be somebody you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
53:18
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing. Man. Well listen, I appreciate you
53:20
Speaker 1: for pulling up. Bro. Makes you go follow my guy.
53:23
Speaker 1: Go watch her at the end of the day. Go
53:24
Speaker 1: watch at the end of the community. Watch we hungry,
53:27
Speaker 1: Watch community, watch a back on fit, Watch as boys worldwide,
53:32
Speaker 1: watch ladies night. You know we're building all this shuff ladies,
53:35
Speaker 1: not his punching on tuesdays. Man, So shout out to Barbie,
53:38
Speaker 1: Shout out to Illa. Shout then, who had the fucking
53:41
Speaker 1: Zoom Strip Club? Going up to room pandemic? I remember
53:45
Speaker 1: I got in once and I was like, whoa, did
53:47
Speaker 1: you go to the Zoom Strip Club? No, you wouldn't
53:49
Speaker 1: you know. He wouldn't know. He wouldn't only if it
53:51
Speaker 1: was men. You know, it's crazy. He told me one time,
53:54
Speaker 1: you guys always want to eat with women. No one
53:57
Speaker 1: wants to eat with me. My God, appreciate your better man.
54:03
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Bro. You already know Boom