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NFL DFS Week 8 Sunday Shippers | Main Slate DraftKings & FanDuel Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for lift-up.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a. ToeTag and Tambo.
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  Speaker 3: Back for another edition of Sunday Shippers here on the
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  Speaker 3: Ship It Nation YouTube station. We got week eight main slate.
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  Speaker 3: Getting excited for this one. We got hoop title here
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  Speaker 3: with me as usual. 11 games to break down, all
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  Speaker 3: from a DFS perspective. We're going to look at it
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  Speaker 3: with the ownership, the roster construction. We just got the news,
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  Speaker 3: the clarification from Ian Rapoport that it's Brees Hall expected
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  Speaker 3: to be out. So we will talk about Braylon Allen
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  Speaker 3: and more. There's not much news other than that. The
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  Speaker 3: first game of the day will be the Ravens at
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  Speaker 3: the Bills when we get there. We think Kincaid and
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  Speaker 3: Moore will both play in that. So we'll talk more
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  Speaker 3: on that when we get to it. But make sure
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  Speaker 3: to hit that thumbs up. Subscribe to the channel on
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  Speaker 3: the way in. And Hoop, saw you out there this
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  Speaker 3: morning getting her done. We had Halloween for those that
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  Speaker 3: take your part in that yesterday. And then we had
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  Speaker 3: you out there with the billy goat this morning. What's
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  Speaker 3: going on, man?
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  Speaker 2: How you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I had the video queued up and ready to
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  Speaker 1: go yesterday. So I guess it's a little misleading on
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  Speaker 1: my end. So it was actually yesterday I was out there.
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  Speaker 1: I was grinding pretty hard. And I meant to post
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  Speaker 1: the video and then got distracted and didn't post it.
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  Speaker 1: So I kind of played it up as if I
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  Speaker 1: did it this morning. And I definitely didn't do it
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  Speaker 1: this morning because I got after a little bit last night.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like dog turds. There's no way my ass
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  Speaker 1: could have got out of bed and done yard work
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  Speaker 1: this morning. So a little fabrication, a little weight lie,
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  Speaker 1: I guess you could say, on my end. But it
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  Speaker 1: was yesterday. And that's a hell of a machine, man.
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  Speaker 1: That Billy Goat thing is no joke.
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  Speaker 3: People love it. Feeling like buns over there, he says, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Hoops is working the X algorithm. He knows there's more
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  Speaker 3: people online on a Sunday morning, a football Sunday with
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  Speaker 3: an hour time change for those that celebrate Halloween, those
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  Speaker 3: that celebrate DST. Not always, but Title, usually you don't.
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  Speaker 3: Do you there? You're still away. I know in Arizona,
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  Speaker 3: they don't mess with these clocks, but were you messing
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  Speaker 3: with clocks over there? How are you doing, man?
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  Speaker 2: Thankfully, my phone does it all for me. Arizona, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it changes everything. My show at 6, now it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be 7. 11 goes to noon. Like, it changes
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  Speaker 2: all that. But, hey, find something. Find someone or something
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  Speaker 2: that loves you as much as Hoop loves his yard
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  Speaker 2: and his machines.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You'll get there one day, man. I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 2: No, I won't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you will.
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  Speaker 2: Something clicks. That's why I live with all these rocks
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  Speaker 2: and stuff so I don't have to.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you stay in Arizona, yeah, if you stay
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  Speaker 1: in Arizona, you have no– yeah, like you're not going
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  Speaker 1: to appreciate the lawn.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're not going to ever appreciate it. So I
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  Speaker 1: take that back. But if you ever lock in in
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  Speaker 1: Wisconsin or something, get back to close to the family,
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  Speaker 1: you'll appreciate the lawn stuff. I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 2: Not happening. I'm staying in Arizona forever.
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  Speaker 1: OK, then you're not going to get on team. Appreciate
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  Speaker 1: the lawn.
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  Speaker 3: No. I will say this, though. The chat's already talking.
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  Speaker 3: I'm buying the Ravens goat myself. Forget your Billy goat
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  Speaker 3: over there with the Bills. We're rocking the Ravens today.
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  Speaker 3: That's going to be the first game that we discuss.
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  Speaker 3: Huge game. How are you going to second-guess me? Lamar said.
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  Speaker 3: What are we waiting on? He's back. I can't wait
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  Speaker 3: to watch this game. It's fun.
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  Speaker 1: It's good for you. I will say that the NFL
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  Speaker 1: schedule is stupid today. How are some of these games
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  Speaker 1: not in the 4 p.m. Eastern window, and then we
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  Speaker 1: got freaking– What is it? Eagles and commanders? Like, let's
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  Speaker 1: start moving the shit around a little bit. Come on.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even care if they were healthy. That's insane.
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  Speaker 3: I know they like different networks have access and all
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  Speaker 3: this stuff. cbs game and they're not sunday night football
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  Speaker 3: but i watched this promo yesterday of like the ravens
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  Speaker 3: versus the bills of course just to see this back
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  Speaker 3: and forth it was the best promo i ever watched
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  Speaker 3: football and i'm like oh wait that's the game just
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  Speaker 3: to start the slate today so anyway mix for a
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  Speaker 3: good morning the morning slate is crazy on its own
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  Speaker 3: so this is wild but let's let's start there let's
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  Speaker 3: get a grand scheme overview for you there's a couple
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  Speaker 3: big boy games on the slate very early we're going
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  Speaker 3: to get to those ones and then the afternoon kind
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  Speaker 3: of just falls flat but there's three games that still
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  Speaker 3: matter for the slate especially if you're going to be
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  Speaker 3: sweating 1.5 million dollars up top any of any of
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  Speaker 3: those out there that are in the mid-season main event
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  Speaker 3: so take it away.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah usually we say like yeah if you get off
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  Speaker 1: to a hot start and you know you're sitting pretty
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  Speaker 1: after the early games the 1 p.m eastern games don't
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  Speaker 1: get too comfortable today if you're sitting pretty you probably
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  Speaker 1: can get a little bit comfortable because the afternoon window
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  Speaker 1: is not strong from a DFS perspective. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: the ownership is going to be in this early window.
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  Speaker 1: So that's one thing to kind of take note of.
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  Speaker 1: And the other thing is not probably we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: it and talk about it, but not a ton of
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  Speaker 1: swap opportunities either. I mean, there are a couple of
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  Speaker 1: plays in the afternoon, but not too much. So it's
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  Speaker 1: definitely one thing to consider and think about, but not
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  Speaker 1: all that important in terms of the slate. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of good games, a lot of games that
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  Speaker 1: could be, you know, high scoring kind of go through
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  Speaker 1: the positions and talk through it. You know, same thing
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  Speaker 1: at quarterback that we always talk about. It gets spread out.
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  Speaker 1: And today it looks like that's the case. No one
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  Speaker 1: really over 15% Dak Prescott kind of leading the way there.
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  Speaker 1: And that's because Dallas has a team total sitting right
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  Speaker 1: around 30 and they, they flow offensively and they have
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  Speaker 1: a really good matchup and they're at home. So a
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  Speaker 1: lot to like with Dallas, Dak, is the top dog
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  Speaker 1: in terms of ownership and the next guys in line
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  Speaker 1: after him. You got Burrow, you got Allen. Brissette gets
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  Speaker 1: really spread out, 10% below. So again, if you like
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  Speaker 1: something at quarterback in stacks, you just kind of stick
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  Speaker 1: with it because ownership always gets spread out. So there's
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  Speaker 1: no reason to ever, in my eyes, get off a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback in a stack that you like because of quarterback ownership.
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  Speaker 1: If you like Dak today, he's going to be the
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  Speaker 1: highest owned and he is going to be the highest owned.
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  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. you know, maybe play a
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  Speaker 1: little bit different. We'll talk about it when we get
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  Speaker 1: into that game. The running back position is kind of
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  Speaker 1: back to the upper 5K, 6K range, just absolutely loaded up.
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  Speaker 1: A ton of really good value on the slate. And
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  Speaker 1: then we also have the Jonah Coleman, 4.3K. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: some action for Denver. So what This leads me to believe,
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  Speaker 1: and it's going to end up being true for sure,
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  Speaker 1: is the studs at running back are going to get
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  Speaker 1: overlooked a little bit. Jameer Gibbs, under 20%. It's a
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  Speaker 1: really bad matchup. I don't know. I guess, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for Gibbs, can you really say anything's a really bad matchup?
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  Speaker 1: It is the question today. I mean, it's the Vikings
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  Speaker 1: who have a good defense, but Jameer Gibbs is the
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  Speaker 1: absolute stud, under 20%. We talked about it last week.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't work out, and it's going to be the
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  Speaker 1: same thing today, but a more difficult matchup than I
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  Speaker 1: even think. You know, the next guy, Bijan Robinson, same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Has to get overlooked. I mean, running back is loaded
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  Speaker 1: with value today. Guys under 6.5K that are in just
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  Speaker 1: phenomenal spots. So I think those are two very important
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  Speaker 1: talking points on the slate. Jameer Gibbs and Bijan Robinson,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it when we get to those games.
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  Speaker 1: Wide receiver position, a lot of really good plays. We
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  Speaker 1: have value. I guess the value is definitely shaky, though,
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  Speaker 1: because the top value resides with the Tennessee Titans today.
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  Speaker 1: Who's the dude that's out? He slipped my mind.
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  Speaker 3: Cardinal Tate. Cardinal Tate's out.
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  Speaker 1: With Tate out, you have Vondale Robinson's going to get
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  Speaker 1: some ownership. Io Manor's going to get some ownership at
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  Speaker 1: 3K flat. Other cheap guys, but we have some studs
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  Speaker 1: on the slate. We have Jamar Chase. We have Puka.
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  Speaker 1: We have CeeDee Lamb. So it's a loaded wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: position today. And then tight end value and spend. You've
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  Speaker 1: got Trey McBride up top is– going to get some ownership,
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  Speaker 1: but how much is the question? Because on DK, there's
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  Speaker 1: such a gap in the pricing with the stud tight
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  Speaker 1: ends and the cheap guys. You can save $ 3, 500. You
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  Speaker 1: can save $ 4, 000. If you want to play McBride, you've
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  Speaker 1: got two guys at $ 3, 400 for $ 4, 000 cheaper. Kate Otten,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. The Trey McBride thing is always interesting. Brock
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  Speaker 1: Bowers probably goes overlooked today. We have him at five
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  Speaker 1: percent the guy can just absolutely nuke a slate so
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  Speaker 1: that kind of stands out at the tight end position
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  Speaker 1: but it's a very i mean well-rounded well-rounded slate today
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  Speaker 1: i think for sure and really i mean there's besides
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  Speaker 1: a couple of these running backs you know no no
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  Speaker 1: crazy ownership those wide receivers i talked about all you
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  Speaker 1: know 23 percent and below so it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a good well-rounded slate today for sure Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then the defense too, you mentioned a lot there,
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  Speaker 3: really good coverage. And I'll let title look up some
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  Speaker 3: weather stuff for us for a second. I'll do a
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  Speaker 3: couple of quick shout outs, but the defense, most people
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  Speaker 3: are paying down.
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  Speaker 2: Too, right?
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  Speaker 3: That's the funny thing. Everyone's going to be sitting in
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  Speaker 3: the afternoon and what you're kind of up against is Ramondre,
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  Speaker 3: Jonah Coleman and the Broncos D or the chargers D
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  Speaker 3: that's pretty much what you're going to be looking at.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously there's going to be people with certain stacks of
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  Speaker 3: the Rams game or whatever it might be. But in general,
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  Speaker 3: if you have a really good morning and didn't have
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  Speaker 3: anything going or much going in the afternoon, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to be up against the same stuff as everybody else.
• 9:10
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  Speaker 1: Title.
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  Speaker 3: Who gave us a great breakdown. I know you'll have
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  Speaker 3: the props and everything else throughout, but usually, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when there is weather and this week, I think people
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  Speaker 3: will want to talk about it a little bit. What
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  Speaker 3: do you got for the weather? And then anything you
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  Speaker 3: want to add to who's breakdown before we get into
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  Speaker 3: these games? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Again, just copy and paste and Roth three games. He
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  Speaker 2: has his yellow Falcons, Tampa Colts, Jags, Patriots, dolphins, pretty
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  Speaker 2: much scattered showers and all three of them. It's always
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  Speaker 2: baked in the total. It's baked into projections. I don't
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  Speaker 2: worry until I see like a red and orange, something
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  Speaker 2: like that. So, Not worried about weather. Man, what a
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  Speaker 2: slate we have on tap, though. Looking at ownership, only
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  Speaker 2: one player projected for over 23% on DraftKings. No players
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  Speaker 2: projected over 26% on FanDuel. It's as spread out as
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  Speaker 2: it gets. That's what I love to see. It's been
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  Speaker 2: pretty tough this year with how bad that Lions defense is,
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  Speaker 2: but how good the offense is in domes. Cardinals, Lions, Packers, Lions.
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  Speaker 2: There's always a game or two that just takes it all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's two great games, obviously. The Cowboys- in
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  Speaker 2: the Buffalo game, but you got to spend for these
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  Speaker 2: players if you want to get to them. We play
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  Speaker 2: a salary-based game, so I'm really pumped for this slate. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: mid-season tournament, I think it's a great week for them
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  Speaker 2: to have this as well, so I'm ready to get
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  Speaker 2: into it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll let Hoop go first on the Ravens-Bills, but
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  Speaker 3: before he does, just a quick add to what you
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  Speaker 3: said there. I thought it was really interesting looking at
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  Speaker 3: it this week. While we do have the two big
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  Speaker 3: total games, it is a little bit down the board,
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  Speaker 3: but then there's five or six games that all have
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  Speaker 3: that 45 to 47 range, and we know it's not
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  Speaker 3: just about the totals. We've talked about this a bunch.
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  Speaker 3: You can get it out of everywhere, but the other
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  Speaker 3: nice thing that I think is interesting is in the Ravens-Bills,
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  Speaker 3: and we're about to get to it, but Lamar, Henry, Zay, Lane, Bateman, Andrews,
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  Speaker 3: other side, Allen, Cook, Moore expected to play, Shakir, Coleman,
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  Speaker 3: Kincaid expected to play, et cetera, et cetera. So that
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  Speaker 3: can get spread out. And then you go to the
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  Speaker 3: Arizona Cowboys game and I won't list them all the
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  Speaker 3: same way, but the point being these games have enough
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  Speaker 3: guys that it can really spread out. So when, when
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  Speaker 3: you see that there are some other games that may
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  Speaker 3: have lighter totals, but it may be a even more
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  Speaker 3: condensed target tree. So I think it's all as usual,
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  Speaker 3: we preach the process. over here i think it's going
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  Speaker 3: to come down to a lot of roster construction game
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  Speaker 3: theory if i'm not going here how am i accounting
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  Speaker 3: for that or do i need to what can i
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  Speaker 3: expect to happen so it's gonna be a fun one
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  Speaker 3: to break down hoop i'll kick it over to you
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  Speaker 3: to start we got ravens at the bills I think
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  Speaker 3: we're all expecting Moore and Kincaid to be ruled in,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't think it's come out yet. If you
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  Speaker 3: guys see it in the chat, because we'll be going
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  Speaker 3: game by game here, let us know right away if
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  Speaker 3: we don't see it first, and we'll circle back just
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  Speaker 3: to mention it quickly for everyone. But go ahead, Hoop,
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  Speaker 3: take us into this one. Big Boy Total, exciting real-life game,
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  Speaker 3: everything and more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, phenomenal game. I mean, big total, relatively
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  Speaker 1: close spread to offenses that can definitely bring it. We
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  Speaker 1: have Lamar Jackson coming back, which is a massive boost
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  Speaker 1: for the Ravens offense. Raven side is easy if you're
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  Speaker 1: playing it. It's, you know, Lamar Jackson, Zay Flowers, Jacoby Lane,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. So you have cheap ways to play this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, for sure. So I like all that. And
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  Speaker 1: I do think you can kind of, you can double
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  Speaker 1: it up too. I mean, a lot of times with Lamar,
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  Speaker 1: you can, it's only one guy. I think you can
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  Speaker 1: play him, play him with two Derek Henry. He should
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  Speaker 1: be relatively low on it. I think he's a fine player.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the big questions in this game is like,
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  Speaker 1: how do you play the Josh Allen stuff? Cause he's
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  Speaker 1: getting ownership. Do you play him naked? Do you play
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  Speaker 1: him with, with the guy DJ more? Do you play
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  Speaker 1: him with Kincaid? Do you play him with Shakira? That's
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  Speaker 1: the big question, I guess, in this one. And then
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  Speaker 1: if you are playing Baltimore stuff, like, How do you
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  Speaker 1: run it back? Is it just with DJ Moore? Is
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: it with James Cook? So to me, it's it. I
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  Speaker 1: think despite having the big total, like it is somewhat
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  Speaker 1: tricky to figure out how you want to play it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how I'm going to do it today.
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  Speaker 1: It is the Josh Allen stuff is tricky. Maybe you
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  Speaker 1: just play it naked. I don't know. I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: are you guys thinking with the Josh Allen side? Are
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  Speaker 1: you guys thinking you have to run it back? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's a it's a tough one to figure out despite
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  Speaker 1: the big total.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one of the interesting things, Tidal, I'll
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  Speaker 3: let you take it away after this, but I do
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: think there's, you know, people are looking at it, you know, Lamar, Zay,
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: and Lane. But I'll be honest, because of the same
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: thing Hoop just said about pairing up Allen, it seems
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: like they're stopping there. Even though, what would we want
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: to speed this up? We would probably want a big
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: boy catch if Moore's in and playing. You'd want James
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Cook on the ground getting rolling and having something happen.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: So you'd probably want to put something in there to
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: get it so we actually get the back and forth.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: If you're expecting it to hit ceiling outcomes, I'd be
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: trying to add to that. The other thing title I
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: think is, and I think Blickle talked about it yesterday
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: on leverage lane is you can do the, the two, two,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: like you can do like the Josh Allen pick somebody
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: and then get the Ravens guys in there because they're
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: just like a little affordable bucket. You know, you can
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: get like a lane Andrews or as a lane or
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: something like that and just account for it. that way.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: And I hope that it's Josh Allen doing his own,
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: you know, rush it in from the one, rush it
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: in from the five. We always make fun of James Cook.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: If he doesn't get it from 20 out, probably not
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: getting it.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: So take it away here. Title Ravens at the bills.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: How are you seeing this one? What are you thinking
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: about with this game?
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely tough for me. And I've been going back
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: and forth, like my favorite play in a vacuum, say flowers,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: but that's not seeking past anyone. So then it's like,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: all right. And then I go to ownership, who's my favorite,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: and I think it's Mark Andrews, and it just comes
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: down to he's $ 3, 400, going to be on the field
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: a ton and allows me to get guys later, the Gibbs,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: the Pukas of the world. So he's my favorite way,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: and you can play him in a multitude of ways,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: whether it's just Mark Andrews in this game, just Lamar
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: to Mark Andrews. Jacoby Lane's another one. He's getting some ownership,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: but the Wandales, the Ion Moors, all that stuff, he's
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: in that range, and he is out-snapped. He's definitely taken
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: over the wide receiver three role Ran a career high 46,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: or he had 46 snaps last week. Pretty solid. I
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: think he's a pretty solid player too. So leveraging off
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: of Zay, I get two really cheapies in the 3K range.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Lane Andrews, my favorites. I'm good with Derrick Henry, nothing
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: bad to say. But the opportunity cost, he could have
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: 26 points and still not be optimal. I like him.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: I definitely like the Baltimore side more than Buffalo, and
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: it comes down to getting it right. James Cook, it's
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: just the price tag is up there. And then the
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Ty Johnson rotation, Josh Allen's, threat to always rush it in.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I'm out on him today. And yeah, what to do
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: with Josh Allen? I think if you're playing in a
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: 800 contest, man contest or less, you probably just play
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: him solo because you don't have to be perfect. You're
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: playing in bigger contests and that's even the main event
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: stuff that probably even like a $ 4, 000 or 4,000 man
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: single entry. I'm probably playing them with someone because they're
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: all relatively low owned. If he fully nukes, you hope
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: you bring someone with, but yeah, he doesn't have to
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: because He can rush in two touchdowns and throw one
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: to Shakir and one to Kincaid. So I think because
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: of that reason, and of course his price tag, I'm
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: just going to be with the field or underweight on
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen and pretty much all Buffalo stuff. I like
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Raven stuff more because I think it's more condensed. I
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: like the price tags more. Kincaid 5-3, Shakir 5-6. These
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: are real price tags. DJ Moore 5-7. Again, I'll have some.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I like it more in larger field stuff for Buffalo
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: because of ownership. And I like the Baltimore side just
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: more overall, mainly the 3.4K lane and Mark Andrews.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like a lot of how you listed that.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: And I will say, like, for me, it's probably more,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: you know, Josh Allen. If I'm doing it, I'm doing, like,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Lamar with the double stack or maybe even a triple.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: If I'm doing Josh Allen, it's probably, like, pick a guy.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Hope I get it right. It's probably DJ Moore just
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: because if he– expecting him to play and he'd have
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: a real ceiling, if it is the case, I'd want
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: that full– out from the other side that could allow
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: me to get to Zay lane, et cetera. But it's
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: crazy though. That's what I mean about this game. You know, justice.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not, these are not DFS plays for today. I'm
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: just noting. If you're not on this game and you
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: get a build that doesn't land anywhere in this, Oh,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: but I didn't account for the huge total in that game.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: This is why it may or may not matter. It's
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: just sometimes this is the case, but when you've got,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: and then you can mention Cuevas at tight end over
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: there on the other side, they have been using that
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: guy and pushing it to him. So it's like, I'm
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: not saying to use them for DFS. I'm saying when
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: you have this many options in a game and it's
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: that tricky, sometimes you can just say like, look at
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: last week again, Amun-Ra, you know, kind of till the end.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I know golf and JMO and those guys all ended
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: up at the top, but it's like the whole game
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: didn't really go the way that people expected it to.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: That can happen here where it spreads out as well
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: with you on the Derrick Henry more than James Cook side.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: I thought the best point of all the good points
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: that you made title was about the opportunity cost at
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: running back, you can give Henry and James Cook like
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: 20 ish through almost through 23 to 25. And it's
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: still not certain that they're going to show up because
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: there's about eight to 10 running backs ahead of them
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: that are at really cheap costs that can get their
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: own 18 to 25 and then be needed in a
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: different sense. So that's something to think about as well.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Who anything extra after we talked about it that you
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: wanted to add to your stuff? If not, you can
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: take us into the Bengals at home versus the Titans.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing more to add in that one. Bengals, Titans,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you know, another good spot. I mean, the Bengals projected
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: to score right around 30 points. They're favored by a ton.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: No Tate on the Titans side, which opens up some
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: super cheap value, like really, really cheap value. Obviously not stable,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: but they're going to get some opportunities. uh the bengal
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: side chase brown is is going to be owned for
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: sure i mean it's it's a good spot really hasn't
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: had the huge game they're favored by almost two touchdowns
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: at home um but you know i kind of like
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: flipping it a little bit and go with the borough
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: stuff and it is going to be some somewhat owned
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: but like you know chase brown is going to get
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of ownership probably one of the more Popular
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: plays on the slate. What are we showing? Okay, we're
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: showing around 20, which isn't like super, super. I guess
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: there's just so many plays at running back. I think
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: that's the thing.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: The Raylan Allen thing becoming more realistic. The weekend with
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: the cryptic posts on X from Hall and then people
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: expecting him to be out. Now he is likely to
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: be out of race. What Rod Porter said, he is
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: expected to be out. Is extra guys getting added in?
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Jonah Coleman, et cetera, et cetera. Carry on, but just
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: so you know.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And you can play Chase Brown with Joe Burrow, too.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's caught a lot of touchdowns in the past,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: so a lot of different ways to go with the Bengals.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: It's tough to see a scenario where they don't put
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: up at least four touchdowns here. So getting some exposure
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: is good. You can play Burrow with Chase and Higgins.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I don't mind doing that, like Burrow with Chase and Higgins,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and then play two of the cheap guys on the
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Titans and just hope they get their in garbage time
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: or somehow push the pace a little bit and you
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: have like super cheap options, Wanda Robinson, I am manner
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and then gunner helm at 2500. I mean, you see
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: it all the time at the tight end position, just
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a $ 2500 guy gets zero, and the lineup is still
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: fine just because it gets you so so much so
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: you know you can stack this game. and then still
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: get some big boy studs on the slate if you want.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: So I kind of like that approach to it, kind
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: of going over on it and then get the studs
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: on the slate and hope that the combination of two
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: of those Titans guys is something, ends up getting you
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a decent amount of fantasy points. I am not allowed
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: to speak on Tony Pollard anymore. I'm leaving that to
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you guys. I'm staying out of that one today. I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: had to still egg up my face from last week.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: So I'm sitting the Tony Pollard stuff out until you
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: guys talk about them. But Bengals, I mean, really good spot.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can play them, stack them. You can
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: stack them however you want. You can over stack it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: One offs. I mean, it's a really good spot and
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: hard to imagine a scenario with those guys don't have
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: some offensive success.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say this just for JM Eagles, like,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: you know, this is a good game to talk about
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: this conversation because we're going to flip it to the
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Tony Pollard whisper. But I mean, Tony Pollard, like people
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: are going to say Chase Brown's no good and all
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: this stuff. But and he's still getting some ownership.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: But if there was to be a spot, this is
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: where you would expect it to be. Will it happen?
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: We won't know until we play that, you know, see
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: the games play out.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: But.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: That's why people are thinking about it. I think Higgins
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: pretty good, even as a one-off. I think it's interesting
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: that he only kind of went up a hundred bucks
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: after last week, another really good week. I know people
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: want to get Jamar chase fed and all of that.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I think the Bengals D I talked about an earlier
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: title on leverage lane yesterday about paying up a D
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: this week. Nobody's really doing it. If you wanted a
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: way to cut into the chase Brown ownership, we can
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: just put the Bengals D I don't, I mean, the
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Titans have The only guy that was moving the ball
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: for them was Tate through the air. It looks like
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: they're going to have to move it through the air.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: If Bengals are going to touch close to 30 points
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: at home. And I just don't see how that ends
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: up or even gets closer works out. If it does,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: you'll want the game stack. So I'll let you take
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: it away. You were the Tony Pollard whisperer last week.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: You got that one quite right. And it was an
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: incredible game for him. Almost 40 DK points.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I hope people go right back to it.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Cause I'm, I'm jumping off. I mean, it's a little
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: different when they're, one point underdogs are sitting there at
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: almost a coin flip against the Brown, the set of
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: 12 and a half point dogs on the road. There's,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: and now he's showing double the ownership. So yeah, I'm
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: going to let people chase the Pollard game. We play
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: daily fantasy, NFL weekly fantasy. It's, it's not, you just
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: keep riding your boys. I mean, I have with Michael Wilson,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: it's hurt me. So I'm starting to learn myself over here.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: So what a great game though. I mean, mainly on
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the bingo side, there's ever a spot for Jamar chase
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: nukes been so bad for him, burrowing him or our boys.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: It feels like this is a 170, two touchdown. You
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: need Jamar Chase or you're not getting money. And I
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: like it even more on FanDuel because the T. Higgins
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: price tag, he's going to be even more popular over there.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: The gap is wider. So you're going to get Jamar
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Chase even lower on. I love, love Jamar Chase. I
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: love Joe Burrow. Even when they're up three touchdowns, like
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: they do not take their foot off the gas in
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: this one or in really too many games. As long
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: as we don't get a stupid Drew sample touchdown or
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: any of that, Fitz going to his guys like we expect,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I think The Bengals, someone's on the winner. Sure, it
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: might be Chase Brown. I'm going to have plenty when
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: they're implied for that many points, and I think they
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: move the ball at will, and he can catch the
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: ball out of the backfield. I have nothing bad to
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: say about him. I just really, really like Jamar Chase
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: in this spot. I like T.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Higgins.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: And, yeah, it's really easy when you play Burrow because
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: you only have to mess with them, like Gusecki, whatever,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: in Burrow stacks and the largest field stuff. But most
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: people probably aren't playing that many teams. Other side's tough.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, when I'm playing so many Bengals, I
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: guess I have to play some Wando, some Ina Moore.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Gunnar Helm, I do like the Gunnar Helm call. He's
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: up there like 85% of snaps. If they're trailing a
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: bunch having to throw, garbage time counts the same. No
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: one's really playing him at tight ends. So I love,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: love the Bengals stuff. Naturally, I'm going to get these
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Titans chalk, and it's annoying. Just build it appropriately. But
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I'd be lying if I say I liked it.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think there's something to the Robinson stuff.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I've talked about a little bit in the past of
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: like when people say, oh, he's just a terrible player.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: He's all cash guy only or whatever. Well, if you
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: think that, then you should be using him in the stacks.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Like because then don't just one off him because you're
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: saying he's not going to get to the real score.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: And if he actually hits the ceiling, it's going to
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: make things move in this game. So as much as
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: a guy like Robinson. Iron Man or Robinson, people don't
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: like to play them or they say it's just horrible chalk.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I think it's horrible chalk when you play just by
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: themselves because if they actually get to a ceiling outcome,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: that means the Titans stuck with this game. That means
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Burrow and Chase are probably going off or something else
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: is happening there. And then I would say if Tyler
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: was a betting man, I would just go bet the
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: P-Ride two touchdowns. But I think these things are important
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: to remember. This has been true on the goal line
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: work stuff. This is possible on the poaches and the
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: vultures and taking the touchdowns. But I think when people
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: see this, they go and plug in P Ryan into
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: a lineup and say like, that could be a game
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: changer could be, but also his 12 to 15 points
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: might not matter at all. Because again, like we said earlier,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: you can have, you know, 12 other running backs. If anything,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: it should be a reason that you might move off
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: of chase Brown and not play him. But then do
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: you think the Bengals are still scoring the points? Because
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: if so, to title's point, then you should probably be,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: and even hoop was on it heavy as well. It's like,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: then you, then you want to start loading up the
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Jamar chase Higgins borough stuff. I don't have too much
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: else to add in this one. I am manner though,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: was out there. before as well. I will note that.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: So like, I know he's three K it feels thin,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: but if you need a value play there, I guess
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: that would make sense. I would prefer him in these
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: lineups with Bengals to make the back and forth happen,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: as opposed to just saying, give me my cheap value
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: and see what happens. Title, I'm going to stay with
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: you because we mentioned you mentioned your boy, Michael Wilson,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: and he's in this next game. It's the next big
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: game of this slate. It's the other one. A lot
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: of people and I think even more people talking about
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: this one, because when you talk about stacking versus that
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Baltimore Buffalo game, this game feels a lot easier to
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: stack up. So we've got the Cardinals at the Cowboys,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Cowboys at home scheduled to put up what looks like
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: closer to 30 points. But what's your thoughts on this game?
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, phenomenal game to target for sure. Dallas side feels easy,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: similar to like the Bengals side because you know where
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: it's going. If it's Javante, you don't really have to
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: play Dak. I mean, he got there at the end
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: last game, but touchdown favorites at home, a lot checks
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: out as a workhorse back. If you're playing Dak, you
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: got Pickens, you got CeeDee Lamb, and if you're really
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: in large field stuff trying to go Florene, I don't
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: hate it. He's out there a ton. Obviously, you do
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: need upside, though, and he's not in that 3K range.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: You're spending– You're overspending for him at low ownership, but
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I would include him in Dak stacks with a lot
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: of teams. It's easy though. I like Dallas. They're supposed
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: to score 30 points. If Javante's in your lineup, I
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: don't love the Dak stuff. If you're playing Dak, I
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: don't love playing Javante with it. Obviously it can get there,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: but we're talking to main slate. We're not talking showdown.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Cardinal side, a little more difficult, but I mean, I'm
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: playing Jacoby Bursette at 5,700. How many times have we
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: seen the garbage time or just He can keep pace.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: He almost did it against the lions when the game
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: was completely out of hand, getting the bonus. He just
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: has so many ways to get there. Trey McBride. I
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: absolutely love. Yeah, but it's Kendrick Bourne. Now I hate
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: to say like Michael Wilson will be in my pool,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: but 3,900 bucks for Kendrick Bourne, single digit ownership, right
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: in that Tennessee range. And yeah, I think Bourne's actually
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: pretty good. So Kendrick Bourne, Trey McBride, Jacoby Bursette, then
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: you can pick any of the runbacks back there. I
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: don't love Jeremiah Love. Michael Wilson's fine. at 6,200, but yeah,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: his prop for 6,200 at 60 yards receiving isn't great.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: He almost needs a touchdown. So yeah, McBride born over
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: my guy Wilson, but it's a great game to target.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: So many running backs on this slate. I wanted to
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: make a case for Love. It's just really hard to. Obviously,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: it's a good spot if he ever ends up actually
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: getting the run that we would expect out of a
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: draft pick that's that high. I would think that this
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: could be a spot and it would make the game go,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: but you just said it. There's so many guys in
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: this game with Dak, Javante, Lamb, Pickens, Flournoy, like that
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: on the other side you've got Wilson, Bourne, McBride and
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: then Love is there and then stacking up the Brissette
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: stuff so who everyone was looking for the Dak jersey
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: over there today with the Detroit stuff we'll get to
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: that game next and go with you but what's your
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: thoughts on the Dak spot here first usually you're the
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the Dak whisperer title's the Pollard whisperer go ahead that's.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: An easy one today I mean you know title I
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: kind of agree with basically everything he said, it's just
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal spot for Dallas. I mean, their offense just
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: is smooth against these shitty teams. I mean, we saw
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: it last week. They just, they can just roll. They're
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: at home here. Cardinals defense is, is buns. So, I mean, Dak,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: CeeDee Lamb, Pickens. If you are playing a lot of Dak,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I'd definitely include Flournoy in there as well. A title
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: at a good stat. It was a showdown slate, but
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: he's out there a ton. He's out there a ton
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and he gets opportunities and it's just going to come
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: down to him breaking one at some point and It's
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: going to be basically unowned on the slate with the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: value we have. So keep him in the mix for
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: sure if you're playing a lot of DAC and MME.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Javante Williams, I mean, the price is a little bit
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: more than those other guys, and there's so many other
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: good running backs. He has 7,300, I think, just a phenomenal,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: phenomenal play on the slate. I mean, 25 carries last game.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: There's no competition for him. If they have a lead,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: they will just grind his ass all the way down.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: They did it against Philadelphia last. last game and he
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: got the job done. So, uh, love him. I think
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: he's a great run back to like, if you are
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: playing the Bursette stuff, like he's a, he's a perfect
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: guy to kind of have in there. Um, and then
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: on the Arizona side, I mean, Kendrick Bourne is a
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: really good play. I mean, you have those Tennessee guys
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: that are going to get a lot of the, the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: cheap ownership. Kendrick Bourne's in the game that everyone loves
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and is going to be really low owned on the slate. Um, 3,900.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's up with Michael Wilson. I mean,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: is he injured or what? I mean, I know he had,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: he's got the tag. So, I mean, it hasn't been
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: great for him lately. So, you know, if you are
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: playing a lot of DAC stacks, like I think you
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: definitely include them in the, in the pool for sure.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: But it's, you know, Trey McBride, Bourne, I think both
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: really good plays. And like I said, I will have Wilson,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: but it's going to mostly be just in those Dallas stacks.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: So he has no designation. It's been Pickens, right? That's
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: got the tag there.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Wilson had something this week. He was.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Pretty early, I think. So Friday or something, he got cleared.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: So we're good with him. But I want to know
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: more on Pickens, though, before we go. What's your thoughts
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: on using him in the stacks? Because I think Lamb
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: is definitely going to be more popular because Pickens had
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: the tag all week, but he's expected to play. It
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: was a shoulder and hamstring tag. but he's just 6,600.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: He's kind of right there in the same range as
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Higgins and some of those other guys. So, you know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: fit them into some of the stacks, I guess.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's just hard, man. If you're playing
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: like the DAC stuff to not just go straight to CD,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: their connection is phenomenal. You know, it's definitely him way
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: over Pickens now. And then you've got the injury stuff
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: with Pickens. If you're playing a lot of teams and
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: you're playing a lot of DAC, I mean, you definitely
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: got to play some, some Pickens for sure, but Like, man,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: if you're if you're hand building a team and you're
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: just playing, you know, one Dallas stack, it's hard not
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: to go, you know, Dak to CD. And if you
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: think that's going to be the popular route, just do
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: something different within the rest of your lineup.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tricky to get to. I think there's like,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: you know, lineups with I like Dak here for sure
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: on this side more. And it's like Dak, Lamb, Flournoy.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Then you can mix in McBride, Bourne, Wilson, whatever you
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: want to do over there. It would leverage the Javante Williams,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: which I'm using in a bunch of other places for
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: good reason. You can put Javante into the DAC stacks too,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: but I just think it's somewhat of a different way
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: to set it up. McBride, I think like McBride, Wilson
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: are the two, you know, one-offs that I could still
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: see using or like use them in secondary stacks with
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: just Javante and just run this game that way. But again,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: you know, 6,200 for Wilson. I think I'd probably want
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: them in this game stack more. And then same when
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: you're stacking up the Brissette side, you can do Brissette Wilson,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Bourne McBride triples, even with Javante or something like that.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: There's just enough value in the other spots at running
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: back at defense at the other places. So some interesting
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: ways to stack this game. I like this game more
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: than I do the Buffalo Baltimore one. And like I said,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: if you end up going heavy on this one, And say, oh,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: it sucks. I'm going this one. I'm not accounting for
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: the other one. That's kind of okay. You're saying it's
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: this one and not that one. And that's what you're
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: going to be hoping for in those lineups. So if
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: you have a portfolio, hopefully, you know, something else gets there.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: If this one doesn't for you, but if not, you're
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: making that decision. And I like that decision for myself.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: So how you play up to you. Oop, I'll stay
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: with you. We're going back. You're rocking the Lions gear there.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: We got the Lions at home and probably one of
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: the more interesting things of the slate. And I know
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: there's something to be said for every game, and I
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: get that. But Jameer Gibbs, you know, not going to
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: be owned this week, really, compared to what we usually see.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: And then also... Doesn't everybody always want to play the
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: teams going up against the lions, but you've got Kyler,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson, TJ Hawkinson, quote unquote, revenge game. We don't,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: you know, more and more leverage or more narrative than leverage,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: but just to note it, there's, there's a lot of
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: ways to go in this game, but it doesn't seem
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: like anybody wants to go any of those ways. So
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: what's your thoughts?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, this is a rare slate where
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: the Lions are on it and they're not going to
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: be popular. I mean, it's one of the best offenses
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: in football whenever they're on a slate. Jameer Gibbs, super popular.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Amon Ross St. Brown, you know, always gets around 20% ownership.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Laporte doesn't play a tight end. Like this is the
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: one slate where no one wants it because they're going
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: against the Vikings and the Vikings have good defense. The
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: one thing I will say, you know, I'm always hard
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: on my team for sure. There's no doubt about it,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: but this just seems like, a very good spot for
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the Lions. Like this seems like a Vikings reality check
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: game here. You know, they've kind of rolled through all
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: with their defense, right? I mean, they've just beat up
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: teams defensively and haven't done shit offensively. I think this
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: is a really good spot for the Lions. So, you know,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: my favorite bet, I guess, you know, we rarely throw
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: out bets here, but I just, the Lions to win,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the Lions minus three, whatever, whatever you want to do. Like,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I think the Lions take care of business here. at home.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: And it just seems like it's just a bad spot
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: for the Vikings. So in terms of DFS, like, I
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: don't know if Jameer Gibbs, it is a lot of
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: opportunity costs. There's no doubt about it. Like there's some
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: really good value plays at running back. You know, if
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you're hand-building, it is very hard to plug in Jameer Gibbs.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Like it is very uncomfortable. You feel like you're giving
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: up a ton of salary to play him. But in MME,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a little bit easier. And I'm obviously
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: playing 150. I'm sure you guys are. as well. Like
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I just got to be overweight on, on Jameer Gibbs
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: at like, uh, what are we showing? Like 15% or something, 17.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I think it could be like 15. So, um, I'll
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: be overweight on him. My other, the other play that
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I really like in this game is Amonra at super
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: low ownership. And the reason I like him, I just
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: wanted to verify, yeah, we're showing around 10. I think
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: it's probably around 10 on, on Amonra St.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Brown.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Um, they're going to have to get rid of the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: ball quick. I mean, Goff is going to have to
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: get rid of the ball quick. Vikings blitz a ton
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and he's been better under pressure, like opposed to like
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: last year. So I think Amon Rock could have like
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: 12 catches for like 120 yards, a lot of short
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: little slants and things like that. The play I don't
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: like is Jamison Williams here. I don't like Jamison. I think,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I'm banking on Goff having
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: to get rid of the ball quick. So it's probably
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a lot to, a lot to Gibbs and, you know,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Laporta I think is fine at like no ownership. Where
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: it gets difficult is whether or not I want to
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: play golf. And I don't know. I think I might
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: get some, I mean, they're still projected to score 25.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Like that's a, that's a legit number. Like it is
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: a tough matchup. If they do fully take away Gibbs,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: like could golf go 303. I think he could at
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: home here. He's better at home. It's a tough matchup, though,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: so I will have some at low ownership. In terms
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: of runbacks, I just, man, this Vikings offense is just buns. Buns, buns, buns.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: The definition of buns. If you're playing anyone, I mean,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: it would just be Jefferson, I guess, and I don't
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: even know if I'm going to do it. So, yeah,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: that's kind of where I'm at in this one.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, title. I'm interested in your, your take on this.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I think if I, you know, for me stacking this,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: I'm wanting to just get to all of it or,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: or mostly none of it. And the way I'm saying
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: that is like, I would probably just want Kyler Jefferson
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Gibbs and maybe Hawkinson. If I want to add in
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: someone else just to make it work. But at the
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: end of the day, I think it's like just very
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: interesting when you see a slate like this 11 games,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: so many places you can go. But the one place
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: nobody wants to go is the place everybody usually wants
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: to go. And it's affordable. It's your guy. Justin Jefferson's
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: over there. You love this guy. I think this is
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: a spot for him. And I think the Gibbs stuff
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: is just so– interesting too because people you'll act like
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: oh the blitz and oh he can't do it like
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: what if he just gets a bunch of checkdowns all
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: day what if he's what if he's also just the
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: best fantasy player football we've seen in forever which has
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: been the case and he's coming off a week that
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: people were disappointed in so you don't get him in
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: this spot we have ways to get to him here
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: it's definitely possible and any of these great fantasy players
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: for what we care about can get us the points
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: in tons of different ways especially on a full ppr
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: site like draft king so Give me your thoughts on
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: this one. And by the way, Lions D, I think
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: pretty popular on FanDuel, right, this week?
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yep, because they're very cheap for sure. At home,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Kyler can make mistakes. That's a very good shout there.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: And Gibbs is a lot more popular on FanDuel, a
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: lot easier to fit in than on DraftKings.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough for the sense of, like, I love
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: three spend-up receivers, Puka, CeeDee, Jamar Chase, and Zay Flowers.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: And when I spend up a wide receiver and I
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: play multiple of them, it kind of gets me away
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: from that Tennessee– chalk. And when you're playing Gibbs, it's
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: harder to spend up at receivers. So naturally, just because
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: of roster construction and how I'm playing tournaments, it's a
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: little harder to get to. But I'm totally in agreement
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: with what you said. My favorite way to play Gibbs
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: is when I'm playing Kyler and Jefferson, just hoping, all right,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Gibbs speeds up this game, home run ability, and they
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: force Kyler and the Vikings to have more possessions. I mean,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I always almost say Kyler to Jefferson single stacks. Same
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: thing last week. They're going to be 9% Jefferson, like
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: 5% Kyler. Is he going to win? Probably not. One
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: of these days, though, they're going to get to the
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: winner and win all the money. Do I like it?
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Do I love it?
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: No.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Do I like it? it's fine at very low ownership
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: so i'm gonna play some i definitely like kyler stuff
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: more than golf because not only are you hoping golf
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: has a great game then you have to get it
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: right which is really hard for the line so i'm
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: not playing any of that uh hockinson i don't mind
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: as well too when you're playing kyler stuff now when
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: you run it back i think it's either amenroth or Gibbs,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: and I would have a run back when I am
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: playing Kyler's stuff, just hoping it's home run. And I
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: do prefer Gibbs when I do so. Yeah, the problem
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: is though, yeah, like Lions, we always like playing this
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: team and in the dome and stuff, but there's no,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: the Vikings defense is legit. There's no doubt about that.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: And I do think the Vikings try and slow this
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: game down a little bit to keep the Lions offense
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: off the field. So I don't love it. I don't
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: hate it. I'm probably like right now looking at myself,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I couldn't be like more even with the field with it.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: But we talk about that. You build better lineups. I'm
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: playing Kyler Jefferson. I'm running it back. Not many are
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: going to be playing Kyler or Jefferson.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: So.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious to hear your take, Tim.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: I'll just add one thing. Yeah, no, you broke it
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: down good. I think Hoop was on it. I agree
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: with you on the Kyler Murray side heavier, and Hoop
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: was kind of debating on the golf stuff. It is tricky.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I like what you said about how it's hard to
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: sort of put it all together. We don't really like Jamo,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: like Hoop said, in that spot, so I agree there.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: For me, the one thing that I think about is
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: when you look at a stack like this and compare it,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: this is what I think people should do, too, when
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: they're building with their player pools and then putting it
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: into an optimizer. You're allowed to control the outcomes and
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: the situations. What's another... similar spend version of like a
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: wide receiver with a quarterback and a tight end. So
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about Kyler Jefferson Hawkinson and then a running
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: back on the other side. And I think one of
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: the ones that I just think about right away would
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: be Lamar with Zay, with Andrews, and then plugging in
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: someone like James Cook, right? To make it move. Like
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: you said, that's what we're asking for Jameer Gibbs to
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: do here. Make this game happen and then make the
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: other side comes back. Well, the extra that you got
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: to spend on Gibbs is kind of like the extra
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: from Kyler Murray you got to spend up to Lamar.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: The Jefferson money is a hundred bucks less than a
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: popular Zay. And then yes, the little bit of leftover
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Hawkinson's more than Andrews, but also cook is less than Gibbs.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: And you know, you add the money around. It's pretty close.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: It's not that crazy that you can't find it. on
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: this slate. So kicking it back to you now title,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: and then we'll go to the next game with you
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Colts of the Jags, unless Hoop has more thoughts, but
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: I will say that's like my thought process on this.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: And I honestly feel like I would rather have Kyler Jefferson,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Hawkinson Gibbs, and hope just to be so different and
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: get all of it. Like that's the way that when
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: I'm sitting up top on the money in the main event,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I got some breathing room. Cause no
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: one's really on like the separation is clean there because
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: you've got so much different stuff.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just to circle back and to reanalyze after you
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: guys talk through it, I definitely prefer the Kyler side.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: It's cheaper, number one. You know exactly who you're going with.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: It's him and Jefferson. And then you've got those runbacks
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: that are clear, and you have a little more rushing
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: upside with Kyler as well. So, yeah, I'm with you guys.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: It's definitely the Kyler side I prefer. easier to stack.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, with the runbacks are, and it's
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: going to be low on like for sure. So I'm
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: in on that side.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead. That's, that's good too. I like that title.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: What were you going to say?
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, it's how often can you get the
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: best running back in football under 20% top three receiver
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: in football under 10%. And yeah, it's fricking Kyler Murray,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: but it was just what two years ago, three years ago, Kyler,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, his upside was incredible. So they just haven't
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: had to use, That's also been the thing. Because their
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: defense has been so good, they haven't had to unleash Kyler,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: and that's what you're hoping for playing Gibbs. All right,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: you blink an eye. It's six minutes left in the
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: first quarter, and it's 14-0. You're down because Gibbs housed one,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: and the lines were very efficient. Now you have the
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: nuts grip for Kyler. That's why we're talking about the runbacks. So, yeah,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: it's low on, and you can easily make a case
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: for it. So I like this game, and I would
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: definitely prefer what you said here than playing James Cook, Henry, blah, blah, blah,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: and that more popular game.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: All right, just got the Bills' DJ Moore news so far.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming Kincaid will come up in one second, but
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: it states that Bills' DJ Moore has missed the past
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: two games due to a shoulder injury, is expected to play.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Last one on the Vikings' lines, what would the next
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: game make to you? Days like this, thinking about the
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: big guy in the sky, RIP to the big guy,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: but this would be a very, or he could, spot
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: kyler murray sucks he's a midget but you know and
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: he can never have a good game or he could
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: jameer gibbs best running back in football lowest ownership we'll
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: see in forever he could never play good against this
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: blitz or whatever it might be or he could and
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: if you put those together um you know or you
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: could win a bunch of money with it so i
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: think that's the thing you could never win money with
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: it or you could so i like that from that
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: spot there let's go to the jags at the colts title.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: We've got Trevor Lawrence. We did get the Jacoby Myers
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: news this morning. So he is playing. That was all
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: we were waiting for in this one. Been a bunch
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: of Jonathan Taylor trade rumors and not sure how you
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: figure out a run back in this one. I don't
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: think you're anywhere near the Danny Penny's situation. So talk
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: to us about this one here. Jags at Colts might
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: be one of the quicker games besides the Jags stuff.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Jags. And we're talking about the Jags. I mean, if
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: you're playing a million teams, sure. Otherwise, if you're playing
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: 50 teams or less, just if you're with our partner
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: optimizer at Sabreson, wherever, just hit that nice little circle
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: with the dash through it. And don't worry about anything
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: on the Colts side. Can't say the same about the Jags, though.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Five for almost 30 points. Looking at low ownership, you
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: guys can probably guess it. My favorite play definitely is
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Parker Washington. Too cheap. All the upside in the world
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: against a terrible team.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Strange.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I think he's a very good play on both sides.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: 4K on DraftKings. And I like playing Trevor Lawrence and
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: stacking both of them. If I'm not playing those two,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: I think Tootin at 5,900 is also a very solid play.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Coming with some ownership, and I wish his snap share
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: was greater than it has been. Chris Rodriguez does eat
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: into it, but this Colts team, yeah, it's no secret
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: that they're selling very hard, almost 30 points. And if
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: you look at the other teams, the Bills, Dallas, the Bengals,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: like Jags are getting way less ownership than all of
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: those teams. And I do think it's still pretty condensed.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: They don't love Jacoby Myers. I know he is playing,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: but I still think it's, Parker, it's Tootin', and then
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Strange is interesting. So, yeah, just those four.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Toutin' Tootin' is a thing this week, definitely. Blake
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: was hard selling the Chris Rodriguez yesterday in this spot
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: at 4,400. I know there's, again, it was, he, he
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: did clarify, you know, opportunity costs and all of that stuff,
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: but you know, interesting spot.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Here, hoop, right?
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: You got the Jag side, Lawrence, Washington, strange, seems like
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: an easy stack. If you want to put tootin in it,
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: if you're not on those guys, you could just one-off
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: tootin or strange. Don't know if you love any Colts here.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Jags D 3,700 is another payoff option on this slate
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: going against Danny dimes, but it's, What's your thoughts on
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: this one?
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: And just to touch on the backup, running back stuff,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: because people do always ask about it. It's like it
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: is so hard for it to get there, number one.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: They got to beat so much stuff. They got to
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: beat everything. They got to beat Jameer Gibbs going off.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: You got to beat all these values that are super cheap.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: It's just so hard. for these backup running backs, guys
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: getting limited snaps to, to do it. Cause even if
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: they do it, like, let's say this guy Rodriguez gets.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Look at the use.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: For example, Coram's had some big games, nowhere to be found.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Nowhere to be found. So even if a guy like
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Rodriguez gets two touchdowns, right? Like he still has a
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: very good chance of not being needed or not even
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: being anywhere close to optimal. So you can just, especially
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: on this slate where I have so much value, it's tough.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: My favorite play, though, is Tootin'. So, I mean, 5,900.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I just think this is a game. The Jags are
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: just like, okay, we're playing a team that's trading everyone.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Let's just take our win and get the hell out
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: of here. We can beat them any way we want. So,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: you know, Tootin' is my favorite way to go about it.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: But I will have Trevor Lawrence, Parker Washington, Strange, Stacks
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: for sure in my 150. But, you know, my preferred
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: play is definitely Tootin' here. But they're going to be
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: able to get their 29, 30 points, however the hell
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: they want. So I want all these pieces in my
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: player pool.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what Ross said. I'm in on this.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: I did bet this, by the way, too. That's about
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: as far as Blickle sold me on this one. No further.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Like Hoop said, it's really tricky. in the, in the
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: other stuff. And I, like I said, I even think
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: he sort of backtracked a little on like the opportunity
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: cost stuff, just because even more, you know, Alan came
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: up with the hall of news. Like there's a lot
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: more going on in this slate of running back, but
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: I don't mind that if you're not on a, you know,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: if you're not on tootin, I like this, I will
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: say this title, I'm stacking this game more than I'm
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: playing the running back. So I don't know if you
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: had anything else to add here before the next game,
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: but I do prefer the, Lawrence Washington. I loved your
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: point by the way, about like the Myers. Like who
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: knows that even like him, they were mixing Hunter in,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: in the, before the buy and say, maybe he'd have
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: a role. I don't think I've got him right now
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: at 3,100. Someone said, Josh Cameron's going to win some
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: of the money. You've got Brian Thomas jr. All these
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: different things. Like, I don't know. I'm just, I like
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: keep it clean. And I'm usually, you know, I've talked
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: about this, but if I'm playing Washington, I'm playing for
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: the full ceiling outcome. I want Lawrence. I want Washington.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: I want strange. Just put up the points against these guys.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: If you want to run it back with somebody, you
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: could put them in there, but it's really hard to
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: figure out who it would be.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, Josh Cameron was a stud at Baylor, but
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, Jacoby, I think would have been, had to
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: been out to get there. They don't like Brian Thomas hunters.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Just not getting the snaps. It just feels Parker strange tootin.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, the thing with Trevor Lawrence and you
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: do play them, even if he throws a touchdown to
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: one of those randoms, it helps him out. And single
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: digit ownership. He has QB sneak upside, rushing upside. Yeah,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I think these Jags.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Are under own.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: All four of them, I think, are underowned. under own
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: for their team total and you don't have to worry
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: about running it back. If you want to move likes
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Tyler Warren, shout out to Shalhoub single entry takes down
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: MMA on all of his contests. So maybe if you
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: want to ride the hot hand with Shalhoub, not for me. Yeah.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I think you just X.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Out the Colts.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. All right, let's go to this next one then, Tidal.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: I'll stay with you there. We've got the Jets at
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: home versus the Raiders. The sneaky game, right? But now
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: we've got Braylon Allen, who won't be so sneaky anymore.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: But this was the game I think a lot of
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: people were looking at. The total is sitting in that
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: 45-47 range like we talked about. It's been hovering in
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: different things all week. But just to note it, it's
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: not really about that. This game is very much of
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: a tight target tree. If it goes that way, great.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: If it doesn't, throw that lineup in the garbage and
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: move on. But it definitely can stack up easily from
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: both sides, kind of know where the ball's going.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's tough for me. Yeah, Braylon's good, but
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: he's getting a bunch of ownership. I wouldn't even be
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: surprised if he gets steamed. So Tootin might be like
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: 8% less or something. Ramondre's still good at running back.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Chase Brown, I'm a little nervous, especially because he doesn't
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: catch a ton of passes. Garrett Wilson, we talked about
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: last week, like he's leverage off of Braylon Allen. Sure,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: he's really low on. I'm fine with it. I don't
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: love it. I prefer other really, like give me Kyler
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: over Geno. Can Amar Cooper keep doing it? I don't know.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I'm probably not going to pay to find out. It's
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: a tricky, really tricky spot. Brock Bowers, sure, but I
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: love Trey McBride if I'm spending up. And again, more
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: people do like it, but I agree with the ownership
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: gap there. I think, to be honest, my favorite play
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: in this game might be just Raiders defense and hope
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: we get the old Gino, because what Raiders defense does
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: is you expect the Jets to be from behind. Braylon Allen,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: the chalk, isn't getting his 25-plus touches. And if Gino
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: has to drop back a bunch, I mean, yeah, Gino
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: can make all the mistakes in the world. So 2,500,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: not getting– they're getting some ownership, no doubt, but I
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: think it's really good because it leverages off of Braylon's stuff.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I don't like this game as much as the field does.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Just to clarify on Allen by himself, just using him
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: in your pool.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm fine with it, but when you do that play,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: that's maybe when Kyler and Jefferson. I don't like playing
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, CeeDee Lamb. He's going to be really highly owned.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: I think he's better when you're getting a little different elsewhere,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: and usually that is at stacks. But I have nothing
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: bad to say. I just hope the game script. More
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: than likely, I'll probably be a little underweight, and then
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping he just gets game scripted out since he
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: is more game script dependent than most running backs. Yeah.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: This is a really interesting spot. I like all that
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: breakdown hoop. I'll let you get your thoughts on it here, but, uh,
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: you know, again, just a couple of different ways you
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: can go about this one. I think, what are you
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: thinking here?
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of a tough one just because it
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: is a nice total. I mean, in, you know, sitting
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: 46 and a half, 47 range close spread, but it's like,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: you look at the Raiders side and it's like, they
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: have so many wide receivers. So I don't want to
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: play Kirk cousins, uh, Bowers is very expensive. I prefer
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Trey McBride over Bowers. On the Jets side, now they
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: just have so many guys. It used to be easy
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: when it was like Garrett Wilson in terms of the
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: passing game. Now, you know, Omar Cooper is showing up
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: and having massive gains, and now the price is up
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: on him. They still got Mitchell, two tight ends, Mason Taylor, Sadiq.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: It's like now it's just like too many ways to go.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: So I'm mostly out on this one. Unfortunately, it's just
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: going to be like Braylon Allen. You can play Jets defense,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: you can play the Raiders defense, but it's not going
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: to be too much just because there's just too many
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: different ways for these quarterbacks to go. And I'm always
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: good to play some Geno Smith, but it's just it's
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: it's more difficult now. It used to be easier when
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: it was just, all right, you know, he has a
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: chance to pepper Garrett Wilson. Well, it's like not the
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: case now. So it's just it's hard to figure out.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: So I'll be out.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm going to play. I'm going to pay to
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: find out here.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Like somebody said, I mean, I'm going to get some,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I'll end up getting some jet stacks for sure. I'm
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: all for it. It's cheap. It's different. I'll, I'll have some,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: but I don't know what it will be, I guess.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. Again, people always are looking for it.
• 53:32
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• 53:37
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• 53:38
  Speaker 3: That's where we're getting all our news from. So you
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: guys can see it there. But I'm not looking for
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: these diamond in the roughs in this game. I'm just
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: paying to play. No one's here anyway. So especially with
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: the Allen news even steaming him up further, it's just Geno, Wilson, Cooper,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Brock Bowers or Gentee or Tucker, pick your pick your poison.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: I probably prefer Brock Bowers just because he hurts. And
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: then I can figure out which Arizona guy I want
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: to use because I'm hoping Bowers not only stuffs it
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: on the position, the onesie position, but he also crushes
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Trey McBride. So that makes it easy. The other thing
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: I think is interesting is everyone just going to run
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: to Braylon Allen. And I think you need a little
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: bit of a back and forth here if that happens.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: And there is a decent, I mean, 24 points on
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: the road for the Raiders. That's high for them. And,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: you know, they've already made their, I like the news
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: that came out. It's like weird news, random news. I
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: don't even care about news, usually just noting it. But
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: people were worried a little bit about Fernando Mendoza, right?
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: And who's going, he's going to get his shot and
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: the Raiders are sticking with cousins. They've made it very clear.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: We're sticking with them. He's got a bunch of touchdown passes,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: tons of yards. You can get those here. So I like,
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: you know, cousins, Tucker Bowers, Allen Wilson. And if you're
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: stacking the other side, you can go Gino Wilson, Cooper
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: put in Brock Bowers, but I'm playing for the game
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: to go off. And again, this is another one If
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: it does, you know, that's the whole point. If it doesn't,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: you're in trouble. But I think it's just a little
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: more clean cut.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not worried.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: If these guys get me, they can. But I'm not
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: worried about Naylor, Jack Bash, Adonai Mitchell, Mason Taylor, all capable.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. Michael Meyer, the day after Halloween,
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: I get it. Like all these things, I'm playing for
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: the full, full setup here. And I'm playing for it
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: just to be the guys that we would know and expect.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: And nobody's playing these guys like Kirk Cousins, one to
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: two percent. Trey Tucker, two, three percent. Brock Bowers could
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: be 5%. I'm not going against my stance because of
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: a couple of bad weeks that he's not as good
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: as we know he is. Hopefully the coaches figure it
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: out for once. You know, Gino, 4%. Garrett Wilson, sub 10.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Omar Cooper, no way he could do it again. Remember
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: the year we said that about Nick Westbrook-Akene for nine
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: weeks and he did it like eight of the nine.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: It's like, this is the whole point. So there's a
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: couple of guys out too for the Jets. I'm not
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: the best with the defensive stuff, But there's, you know,
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: a lot of sharper people talking about the two guys.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: One guy's out, one guy's doubtful, I think, for the
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Jets D. And then, you know, the spot for Jenty,
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: if there was ever a spot. But he can catch
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: passes too. So I'm going to be overstacking this spot
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: for this slate. And I don't have as much passion
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: about some of the other games when I'm doing this.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: This game for me was last week with the Cleveland spot.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: And Deshaun Watson ended up also almost winning me a Millie.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: So hopefully get the same outcome. But I'm definitely in.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: on this Raiders jet spot.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: David Bailey is, I didn't know that he's doubtful. That's
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: their second. He's a monster. I'm not the best, biggest
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: defensive guy and all that too, but that does, that
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: does change things for Kirk cousins to have more time.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Adds more time. I think, again, that's another thought that
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: you just said there that reminded me. I like a
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: lot of people. That's where I get my brain works
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: differently sometimes than others. But like everyone was talking about
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: that stuff for Gentee. Gentee's just been buns like it's
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: been horrible. He got that touchdown last week. It's great.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Good for him. I'm thinking about other factors of what
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: that can mean. And can it help with the back
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: and forth?
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: And now he looks hurt, man. That ain't like he
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: he does not look 100 percent.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: He's forcing it for sure. Like it's been talked about. They've,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: they've went into it all. You, you'll hear people messing
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: with it. He's just trying to get out there and
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: be there for his team. It was like, it was
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: time to shut it down. I don't know how these players,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: how much say they actually get to have. It seems
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: like a lot more than you think. We're like, Hey,
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: I'm playing coach and they don't get to, you think
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: all the people putting up all the money are the
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: ones that make all the decisions, but it seems like
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: he's just putting himself out there. But yeah, I digress.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: We'll go to the next game title. I'll stay with you.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: They already posted in the chat. Jalen Warren, big birthday today.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: You know, the narrative street stuff comes out on Sunday
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: after Leverage Lane hits the docket on Saturdays. But Jalen
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Warren not getting much ownership this week. Got Dowdle there
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: as well. Steelers D do look to be the preferred
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: pay up when people are paying up. And then nobody
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: really messing with the Browns stuff this week. You know,
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: DK Metcalf, Jeremy Bernard getting a little bit, but not
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: a lot. Aaron Rodgers here.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: What's your thoughts on this game?
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more individual pieces. Like I don't mind DK, Bernard, Warren,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: all in a vacuum, just by themselves, just a one-off,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: all of them, single digit ownership, ways to get different
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: and chalkier builds. Man, Warren, especially like looking at his price,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: it's really annoying with Rico and you never, like last
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: week it was 63, 44 split, but the week prior
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: is 75, 27. I'm hoping it's more like two weeks ago.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Cause he's right in that range of, Chase Brown going
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: to get way more ownership. Bucky going to get more ownership.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: They're both cheaper. And then Derrick Henry a little more.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Javante a little more. He's just in a zone that
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: he cannot be played. And we're talking good at football.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Jalen Warren's as good as football is pretty much anyone.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Can catch passes out of the backfield. Can take one
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: for 75 yards. So I'm going to play some Jalen
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Warren as three-point favorites at home and hope Big Mike
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: figures it out and he's much better than Rico. And then, yeah,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: you can play him with Steelers defense. Like you said,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: that's a way to eat into some of the chalkier stuff.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: When I'm not playing him, again, Bernard, DK, Metcalf, I'm
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: fine with it. It mainly comes down to their single-digit ownership.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: No one's playing them, and it's very condensed on that side.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: With all that being said, then Rodgers will throw a
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: back shoulder to Darnell Washington and tilt us. I hate
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: the Browns side, though, that's for sure.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: It's crazy, too, because there's not even really a strong
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: way with these Browns, this week at least in my opinion,
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: to leverage. this Steelers defense. You just I think you
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: just can pivot off the defense if you don't like
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: them at that ownership. I would just pivot off them
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: because it's not it's not something that I'm saying like, oh, man,
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: I really would feel good still running up against this
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: defense with a stack like maybe later on. when we
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: get to these afternoon games, if the chargers are going
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: to be double digits, I could see like, okay, I
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: can get the Rams in late swaps. I could start
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: with them and then move off them. Like there's so
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: many things that you could do there. This would not
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: be the case for me, hoop. I'll kick it over
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: to you. Um, anything you want to add here, you know,
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: with Steelers at home versus the Browns.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. I mean, it's a, it's a low
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: total game here. Uh, Man, Jalen Warren's been great, but
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: now the price tag's up and there's just so many
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: good running back plays, but that's going to factor into
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: his ownership as well. So, yeah, I probably want to
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: get some Jalen Warren. DK Metcalf, I think, good price tag,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: good play. Has to have a monster game at some point,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: I would assume, maybe today. And then Bernard, like the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: prices is up on him, but man, like he can get,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about it and there's breakout game.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Like when Aaron Rogers finds a guy he likes, he'll
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: just keep going to him. And that's kind of the
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: case with Bernard. Um, but yeah.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Better price on FanDuel.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The FanDuel price way better game obviously fits DK
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: scoring better, but you know, it's fine. He scored touchdowns.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, he had the touchdown too. So Yeah, probably
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: just individual pieces. Who's my favorite? Probably DK Metcalf at.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: $ 5, 400.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Good price.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: I like Warren and Metcalf here. You know, Steelers D,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: if you get them in some, play them accordingly. Maybe
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Steelers D with Warren. That's another thing, too, you could do.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: And it's not even comparable to me from last week
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: because that's results-oriented. But Tennessee D, all the ownership last week.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: And then you got Spears News, and still nobody really
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: moved on DraftKings to Pollard. It's like... Not that you
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: have to play them together. I'm just saying sometimes people
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: will see a running back be popular and then the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: defense is not getting owned. And that can be a
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: way to get different with it. I always call it
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: the slice and dice. The Steelers D, if you wanted
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: to slice into them today, probably would be with Warren
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: or just pivoting off them. I like the DK Metcalf
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: one-off call. Jeremy, awesome. The new age Randall Cobb, if
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: you will, we're talking about for the way Aaron Rodgers
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: is handling him. But Metcalf getting inching closer and closer,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: just 500 bucks now. in the difference as a one-off,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: I think it's fine too on this slate, just $ 5, 400
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: on DraftKings. So don't hate that. All right, we've got
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: one more game left in the morning window hoop, and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: I'm going to stay with you. It is the Falcons
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: at the Buccaneers. The chat's been going off about this,
• 1:01:44
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• 1:01:57
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• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: out that way. But a lot of talk hoop about
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: Bijan Robinson going over. Look, you mentioned it off the top.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: opportunity costs so many running backs etc etc but still
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: no um brian robinson over there for them last week
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: everybody wanted bijan what do you think about bijan robinson
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: then talk to me about the rest of this game
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: here bucks at home versus the falcons.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah i mean similar to gibbs i mean it just
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: has to be low or lower owned than normal um
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: let's see i mean we got you know 13 i
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: think it could be 10 at the end of the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: day and for a guy like bijan that's just uh
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: just too.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Low and similar to Gibbs as well, where it's going
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: to be easier to play him. If you're building a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: ton of lineups, like if you're hand building a team,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: it's very hard to click the Bijon name at 8,500.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to probably three running back is
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: going to be very popular and rightfully so. But it's
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: not going to be Bijon. It's not going to be
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Gibbs because people are going to go to those 5k guys,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: the 6k guys, and even a 4k guy and Coleman
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: that we'll talk about. So, has to be low owned
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: and just has to be a good play. I mean,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: anytime that these studs are low owned, like they're just,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: they're good plays. And like I said, it's easier to
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: play if you're building multiple lineups, you know, Bucky on
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: the other side, really good player guy. Where's Nades? I think, yeah,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Nades likes Bucky. I think, yeah, Bucky's a fine play.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: And again, ownership has to be held in check, you know,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Braylon Allen news or, you know, the breeze hall out
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: news definitely has even further spread out ownership. at, at
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: running back. So these, these guys, Bijan, Bucky, I think
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: both good plays Drake London. I've gone back and forth
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: on the Baker stuff, and I'm going to kind of
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: let you guys determine what I do. I wanted to
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: play them just because the nice thing about the, the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Baker stacks is it's cheap without a book in there,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: very cheap. And you just have the clearest of clear runbacks.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: It's like, give me Bijan at low ownership, give me
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Drake London. So you can, you can stack this one
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: up and it's, it's very, very cheap because of the
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: quarterback is cheap and Baker, his pieces are cheap, but man,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: like they just haven't done anything. So it is somewhat
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: annoying there, but at low ownership, I think I'm interested
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: as long as you guys give me the green light.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: So let me know. I'm yellow over here.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to title for the yellow for the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: blue crew championship. Shout out again to the Milwaukee brewers
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: getting it done. But I will say this one, man,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: It's everyone everybody wanted. You wanted Bijan. You wanted Jake London.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: You wanted Ted Hurst. All these different, but no scores
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: came with any of them when we've been on them.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: But now you get what could be a competitive game.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: I will say you brought up the weather earlier, a
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: quote unquote downpour potential. But for Bucky and Bijan then,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: maybe at least that's the case. But how are you
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: handling this one? What are your thoughts on this game?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: Final game of the morning slate. Then we get those
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: three afternoon games coming up shortly.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just naturally looking at my stuff, I'm
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: going to be overweight because there's a lot of low-owned
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: or pretty low-owned pieces. No one's shown to be above 20%.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Drake London is an 80 receiving yard prop. It's very
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: condensed there. Bijan, we know where it goes. And yeah,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: to be honest, the rain, like someone mentioned, is 46.5.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: I think it opened 43.5 now. The thunderstorms, though, I
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: look at it as a boost to a guy like
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Bijan because he knows where he's going. It's easier for
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: him to cut. It's harder for the defense to react.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: The home run hitting ability from Bijan. And at this point,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: I know I kind of joke around about it, but
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: chalk Bijan fail. Low-ish on Bijan hammer. That just seems
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: what happens. And he's going to be low-ish owned today.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: On the other side, yeah, Bucky, 6,400, good. I think
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Cade Otten, probably my favorite on the buck side. I
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: like two tight ends a lot on this slate. The
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: reason for that is they're very, very cheap compared to
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: wide receivers. 3,400 for the number two target, but it
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: allows me to spend on– Bijan, Puka, Gibbs, Seedy, Chase.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: I like the Stars and Scrubs build more, and playing
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: double tight end allows me to do that. Always on
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: the field. Yeah, Tez Johnson. Everyone wanted these guys last week.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: No one wants them this week, and I get it. But, yeah,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: we play an ownership game, and especially with all these
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: very top-heavy payouts, the $ 1, 500, the $ 20 stuff. I like
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: it more, I think, in larger field. Drake London, Bijan, Otten.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, I like Falcons defense, though, quite a bit.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: When you're not playing buck stuff, With the rain, Baker
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: can make a ton of mistakes. It sets up very
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: well for Falcons and Bichons. So, yeah, plug my nose.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be overweight. Probably everyone but Godwin. At
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: this point, I'm just done with Godwin in 2026.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all looking for a ceiling outcome. It's again,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: I think if you're doing that, kind of want to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: be thinking about putting him with Baker because if Godwin
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: had an actual needed game on an 11 game main
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: slate in the year 2026, almost 2027, you would probably
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: need to have everything with it to go there. And
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: then you could just put in Bijan to speed it up.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: I like more of what you said. Like if you
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: had like a Bijan Kate Otten, And even if it
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: does get choppy in the weather, the best part was
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: you said with the thunderstorms. So it's like, is he
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: dodging the loud thunder? But he could be causing thunderstorms
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: with all his aggression on the ground and beating it out.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: But I know what you meant with the weather. It
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: was just funny how it was said. But I will
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: say Bucky or Bijan, Cade, either defenses. That's what I'm
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: thinking about. If the stacking goes wrong and it is
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: this one instead of the other game I was on earlier,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: you guys know where my passion was. I'm on the
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: other game. with Kirk and those guys when I'm looking
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: at these comparable setups. But I think you can get
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: Bijon into those lineups, no problem, or something like that
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: as well. That's another thing. Shout out longtime, you know,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: longtime miss. We haven't seen Hofbrau in a little while,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: but shout out to Hofbrau. He says about Jonathan Taylor.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: I think we talked about it earlier, but if you're
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: putting Jonathan Taylor out there, I want him in the
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville stacks more than by himself. And you're just, you're
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: ignoring the trade rumors. saying that he's a professional. He's
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: going to go out and play football when he gets
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: his snaps and gets out on the field. I think
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: what people always worry about and what we talked about
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: earlier is like, you know, is the ownership or the
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: coach is going to stop him and not put him
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: out there. It's too hard to tell. We wouldn't know,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: but if he's playing and he's a go, like it says,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: and he is, then you kind of just got to
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: roll with the punches and take on the risk that
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: could really work in your favor. Especially, um, I was
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: pretty high on those, um, Trevor Lawrence stacks. So I'm
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: sure he'll get into some of those.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: That wraps up the morning. Title, I'll start with you
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: for the afternoon. The first game up is the Rams
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: at the Chargers. You know, you said earlier, like nobody
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: on the slate's over 25%. It feels like, again, higher stakes.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: We'll get some movement. Of course, we'll see with the
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: late news how high a guy like Braylon Allen or
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: some of those guys get. But Puka Nakua, pretty good receiver, 8,600 bucks.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: You know, Rams at home versus the Chargers. What do
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: you got with this one?
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Puka. Puka and no one else, but
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: I think Puka is one of the best players on
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: the slate. This dude is just a man amongst boys,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: favorites at home. I mean, he can get a rushing touchdown.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: He's just going to get fully peppered all game. I
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: could argue 8,600 is way too cheap. So, yeah, I
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: talked about it. Pukas, Jamar Chase, C.D.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: Lambs, A.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Flowers. I do like to spend up wide receivers quite
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: a bit, and that does lead me to some double
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: tight end stuff. I'm not going to make a case
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: for anyone, of course. Can Kyron get there? Yeah, sure.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: He's $ 7, 500. You can make a case for these guys
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: every week. Puka, only Puka, and I love Puka.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: I'm curious about the rush draft. like all of the
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: rushing game here, Hoop, when I kick it over to you,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: like the Kyron versus Corum stuff we talked about earlier.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, someone else came back and said it too.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: It was like, hopefully someone, you know, a backup running
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: back could be good for a touchdown, might be a
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: good dart. No, that's the opposite. That's what Hoop said earlier.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: Like if you get a touchdown out of them, you're
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: in really bad shape. You could still be in bad
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: shape if you get two out of some of these guys.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: And I used Corum because he said, Corum had a
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: great game. last game could have been even better. And
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: it was still a Kyron lineup that clipped me at
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: the top of the Millie to take out a hundred
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: K and drop down from there. So it's like, that's
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: the setup of like these backups doing well, but who
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: this rushing spot could be good. People are a little
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: bit on the chargers D nobody wants anything to do
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: with the chargers. They are coming out of a buy.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: And then you've got, you know, Stafford, Puka, Higby, we're
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: waiting on the Parkinson news, but we'll get that before
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: the afternoon. So give us your thoughts here on this one.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: Puka phenomenal play, really good play on the slate and
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: Kyron Williams at low ownership, very low ownership, and it
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: could even go lower. Uh, I want some, I mean,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: they're favored by seven against this horrible chargers team. Um,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford stuff's a little bit tough. I mean, it's
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: obvious to pair them with, with Puka, but man, I
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: just want them in a game where someone's going to
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: push back and the chargers just, man, they just, they are,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: they are buns, buns, buns, buns. So, um, It's it's difficult. So, yeah, really,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: it's going to be just Puka. And then I'll have
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: some Kyra in that virtually no ownership.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of us are the same way.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Another thing people have to recognize here is this is
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: going to be a potential for a late swap spot.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: And I think it'll be late. It'll be people that
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: have started with Drake Mayline. So we'll get there at
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: the end. But I'm saying that's kind of it. Nobody's
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: really on Malik Willis, Patrick Mahomes, Bo Nix, Justin Herbert.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: or stafford really to start i know the rain is
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: talking people off of the patriots game we'll get there
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: shortly of the drake may stuff but obviously when you
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: already have um a receiver and a running back out
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: and you can sort of tighten that target tree up
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: a little bit i think that's what is going to
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: have people a little bit of ownership there so there's
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: some late swap opportunity to go to the stafford stuff
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: but for me right now it's puka if i did
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: go a secondary stack i think it is interesting we
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: got Actually, we got a little bit of baby swag
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: on the way. We got Lad the Dad incoming, posted
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: it the other day. So maybe he gets fired up
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: off of a buy healthy again at just $ 5, 300. I
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: will say, just before we go to the next game
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: about Lad McConkie, he was a guy we were charting
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: his price going up. when the season started. And then
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: it was like, okay, injury and all this stuff. Obviously
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: you can't do that. You got to go back to
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: square one, but you know, we were seeing him. He
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: was the only guy that could do anything in the,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: in the game or two that he had there. So
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: for them, I will say that. So if you were
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: going here, Puka lad, And then Kyron, like Hoop said,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: but it's really tricky when you got Corham eating up
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: half the work. And Corham at 5K, you could say him,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: but he hasn't even been needed when he's had big
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: games already. So it's tough. But Stafford, Puka, Higby, Ladd
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: for a late swap, you could set that up and
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: then be able to get over to the Patriots stuff
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: or this next game, but title, I'll go to you.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: Broncos at the chiefs is that middling game in the afternoon.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: Doesn't seem like a lot of love here outside of
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: Jonah Coleman. And then of course the Broncos D being
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: the top owned, maybe the top one D on the
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: slate and definitely the top owned value D even more
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: than the chargers that we just talked about.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I really hope I'm in first place
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: after these noon games, because these games are not, not
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: very fun or appealing Jonah Coleman Broncos defense. I don't
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: love it, though, to be honest. I think that pairing
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: is very popular, and it opens up a lot of stuff.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: He's 4,300, so I get that, and I'll have some. But,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, J.K. Dobbins is still there. I think if
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: they are at a lead, they probably pound him a
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: little more. Broncos defense, sure, but a chalky defense, chalky, but, yeah,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: at the position, they're chalky. On a slate like this,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: doesn't really feel too appealing either, and I'm definitely not
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: playing anything on the Chiefs. I say that. I play
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: a bunch of teams. If I have a winner with
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Kelsey or a late swap, sure, but And on paper,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: like this game is, is terrible in my opinion. Yeah.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: A couple of things there. I mean, I mean, just jokingly,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: we're talking about chalk. I mean, this could be, I
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: can see the Broncos be 20% plus in the main
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: event today. I know it's a $ 1, 500 tournament. I'm just saying,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: it's like, they're popping hard, hard, trying to jam them
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: into everything. Cause there's 2,300 bucks. They let you get
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: to everything else. Like it's definitely a thing there. So
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: I think that's interesting. It makes for, I guess, again,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: opportunity cost is just crazy on this slate at running back,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: but Kenneth Walker, 8,800 going up against the chalk D let's,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: whatever you want to say about matchup. But even then
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: it's not like the Broncos have had a crazy, you know,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: rush D this season. And then the spot here of
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: them just going against it, that, that could be some
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: afternoon sweat for some people. If you've got Kenneth Walker for,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: or against, you're going to be in trouble if that's
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: going down the stretch, but yeah, Um, yeah, we'll, we'll
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: think about, I'll kick it over to Hooper in a second. Long,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: long time viewer. Appreciate Avery always being here, you know,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: spitting out the takes in chats as speaking of fatherhood,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: my daughter was born on Friday. So congrats to you girl,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: dad season over there. And then, um, congrats.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: Congrats for sure. There was something else there said, Oh,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: Philly fingers. We talked a little bit about this quorum.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: So a couple of things, one in a blowout, he's,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: you know, last week could have been a more of
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: a blowout and it wasn't, and it still wasn't certain.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: And then, I don't know, it was tough last week
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: because of with Kyron, they, it almost was like they
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: punished him for the media comments in the first quarter,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: but then they pulled them back out there with three
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: minutes to go. And it was a done deal. Like
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: they're just killing the clock and they had Kyron out
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: there just running off the clock. So it's really hard
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: to say, but, This was the only other thing here, Hoop,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: I wanted to send it over to you with. I
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: was going to mention this, is Walker crushed Denver to
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: start the season. He's part of their defensive rank against rushing,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: being so horrible just seven weeks in, I know, but
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: just noting it, it's only an 18-game regular season. But
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: did they adjust for that? Did they sell out for
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: that and say, let's see if, you know, Rashi Rice,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: who you've talked about a little bit in the past
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: in different ways, can these guys get me and just
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: let our defense do the rest? Or what are you
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: thinking here with this one, Hoop?
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just, yeah, probably like the worst game on
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: the slate from a fantasy perspective in terms of finding plays,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: the overall game script. Like, yeah, if you want to
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: play Kenneth Walker, he's going to be, I don't even,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: it's got to be, what, 3% or something? I mean,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a small number. Yeah, we got six. Like,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a small number. I just, it's, man,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: it's tough. You're not only playing him over, like, all
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: the value plays on the slate, you're playing him over
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Jameer Gibbs and over Bijan Robinson. So, I won't be
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: getting there. I won't be getting to anything on the
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Chiefs side, kind of like what Title said. Like, if
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: I get some of it mixed in, sure. If there's, like,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: late swap stuff, yeah, maybe. But, yeah, it's just Coleman.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, Coleman's fine. I just don't even love
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: him as a play here because, again, it's like you
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: still have Dobbins in the mix. It's going to be popular.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: The pairing him with Denver defense is going to be
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: very popular. That together, like you said, like this is–
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: at 2300, the Broncos defense is definitely going to be
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: the most popular on the slate. Very popular. I don't know.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I just don't love anything in this game and I'm
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: going to have Coleman, but I don't love it. I mean,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just not a good game at all.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people will be sitting on
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: the Coleman Broncos D pairing, just waiting to go to
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: the afternoon. I mentioned that in the newsletter this morning,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: you guys can subscribe to it over at ship at nation.com.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: It's free as well. You get the blueprint with it.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: But I said like, there's nowhere to go with that.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: There's no late swap. If you're sitting on Coleman and Broncos,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: you're playing Coleman and Broncos.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: So the only option you have is if you have
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Coleman in the flux and you go to Hunter Henry,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: but Hunter Henry is going to be popular too. You
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? So it's like, there's like, you're just,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: you're just.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: Locked in guys price that you can sell all like
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: Caleb Douglas.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: You can, I'm just, now you're sacrificing, you know, half
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: the projection almost or something close to that. See, you
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: may have to do that if you're behind, I get it.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's always tricky when you're just sitting
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: on that. You kind of just have to hope everything
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: got there. I liked, uh, titles line said, I hopefully
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: I'm winning before the afternoon first place, because I don't
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: really have a good feeling about any of this stuff
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: and how it's going to work out for us. So
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: it does make it tricky. The, the Kenneth Walker stuff,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: you are, uh, Uh, the only thing about the Kevin
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Walker stuff is you're, you're, whatever you're not getting from
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: the Gibbs, the Bijon stuff that you can say, like,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: obviously they'd be better in this spot. I get it.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: It's baked in a Walker, by the way, just took Bijon, uh,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: behind the barn and spanked him a few weeks ago
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: when it was that same setup. It was, uh, Bijon
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: super again, Bijon's not chalk this time, but Bijon was
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: the guy that people were on waiting on a Walker
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: in the, in the back of the slate. And he
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: ends up just crushing him. So you kind of know
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: that stuff, but you can't, pivot to it when it's
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: already happened so think about that it is going up
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: against a chalk defense though very highly owned defense so
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: if you want that there's gonna be a lot of
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: people that need the broncos d that are cheering against
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: kenneth walker and then when kenneth walker stops them they
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: could lose a bunch of things it could hurt coleman
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: as well like there's a bunch of things that could
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: happen there so setting up your lineups differently for that
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: are a thing All right, last game of the slate. Hoop,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: I'll start with you. It is the Dolphins at home
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: versus the Patriots. Title read us off the Roth weather earlier,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: and it just talked about downpours in the area. Pretty
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: good chance of seeing some in-game rain, potential for a
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: downpour or lightning delay, and then winds 10 to 15,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: gusts around 20. Thoughts here on Dolphins at home versus
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: the Patriots to round out this slate.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no Henderson and no A.J. Browns. So Stevenson becomes
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: a solid play. Hunter Henry becomes a pretty solid play.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: But the one that no one's really talking about, tomorrow, Douglas,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: I think is solid as well. If you're playing Drake
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: may projected to score 25, 26 points. The price on
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Drake may 6,500. It's kind of in a range where,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: you know, people don't feel super comfortable with it. I like,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: I like this Patriot stuff and it's like the going
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: to be the most popular Patriot most likely most popular
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: part of the afternoon slate. I mean, remand Ray Stevenson
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: ownership probably comes down a little bit, obviously with the
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: Braylon Allen news and, and, and Brees Hall being up.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: But I like all that. I mean, they're going to
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: score against Miami. So like Stevenson, Henry, both going to
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: get on, but even guys like to Mario Douglas, I
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: think solid plays. I mean, he's got a lot of
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: touchdown equity, touchdown upside. So in on the Patriot side, yeah,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: not going to be playing the dolphins here.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one thought I had here, Title, and then I'll
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: let you take it away, was just if you can
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: get a flex with $ 100 left over that has, you know,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: remandre or the idea that you could go to Ollie
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: Gordon as the flip. I don't like him. I prefer
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: Stevenson as everybody does, obviously. I'm saying, but if you're behind,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: that is one that you could actually do something with
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: versus the others. There's not as much you can do. And, like,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: there's no way Ollie Gordon could get ownership even if
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: everybody late swapped. It's just they're not– if everyone did,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: obviously it's different. But my point is I don't think
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: anybody will. If you have $ 100 left over, I think
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: that's something to think about. But what's your thoughts here
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: starting out with the weather, Drake May stuff, stacking, anything
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: you want to do here with this one besides Ramondre,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: the obvious good spot?
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Not really. I mean, individual like Chisholm, Pop Douglas by themselves, 3,400, 4,400
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: in that Wandale, Ina Moore range kind of. Chisholm, especially 3,400,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: single digit 5% or something, played almost 70% of snaps.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: My favorite way, if you are playing Drake May, is
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: probably to play Ollie Gordon, and that's just hoping that,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: all right, Ollie Gordon, Dolphins drive down, punch it in,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: and now Patriots are trailing and having to throw it
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: a little more. The problem with Drake May is we
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: talk about with Josh Allen. Who are you playing him with? Chisholm? Sure. Douglas? Sure.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: What if it's a Ramondre, though? Hunter Henry, of course.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't even say him. To get it fully right
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: is a little tough, and then you're playing into ownership.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: mainly because Stevenson and Henry are going to be a
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: lot higher on. So kind of a similar spot to
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, and I prefer Lawrence stuff more than Drake May.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Ramondre Chalk, I hope he comes back a
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: little bit because I think like the one game we
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: saw without Travion Henderson was week one, and Ramondre played
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: 85% of snaps. He's hardly going to leave the field
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: is how I'm seeing it and has so many outs
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: to get there as good-sized favorites, but also can catch
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: the ball to the backfield. And without A.J. Brown and stuff,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: He's the most trusted guy when I don't even know
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: if Drake may trust his weapons. So yeah, I think
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: good chalk for him, Andre. I'll have a bunch. Yeah.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: And stacking him in with Drake may, like you just
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: talked about the ability for him to catch those passes
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: and stuff too. It's like, that makes sense. You could get,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: you know, get the over stack and then that really
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: crushes into the Henry and Stevenson ownership. It also could
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: be the entire end zone. It could also be the
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: check downs and the things like that and the rain
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: and whatever. The one thing I will say about the
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: weather in this, it looks like a lot of people
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: are moving off of it. I think title said it
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: earlier and it was probably, you know, more well put
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: than I'll put it, but it's like the offense knows
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: what they're doing. The defense doesn't, and that can work
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: both sides of the field. And even if it is, Oh,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: but then they're not going to be bombing it out
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: in the rain.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: Well, you're allowed to just play Drake, may remand Ray Stevenson,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: Hunter Henry, if you want to just say, I'm going
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: to take those guys. Like you can do a lot
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: of things here. I wouldn't be moving off it myself.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: And if it doesn't work out, it might not even
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: be because of the weather. So it looks like of
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: the three games, it's, you know, Pretty good chance of
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: the rain. People are saying it's raining there now. I
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: think that always scares people. It's not as much of
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: a factor for the way I'm looking at it.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: It scares me more, too, when a team like the
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: Lions go and play in that weather versus the Patriots
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: that play in Foxborough that have to deal with weather
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  Speaker 2: like this all the time. I look at stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: How much experience does the quarterback... Cale Williams never played
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  Speaker 2: in the cold, really, coming from the NFL and all that.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's used to it more, but I look at
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  Speaker 2: that probably a little more than most.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was wondering too, we always look, Hoop, at
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  Speaker 3: the totals and the numbers and all that stuff, right?
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  Speaker 3: But I'm just trying to see if we got anything
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  Speaker 3: in this one. Did you see anything earlier, Title, or
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  Speaker 3: anything that you saw?
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  Speaker 2: I'm about to look right now to see how much
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  Speaker 2: the total has moved.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see.
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  Speaker 3: Did it come down.
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  Speaker 2: From 45 to 41? Yeah, it did. Yeah, yep. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it did.
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  Speaker 3: That's a little more interesting. That's a pretty big move,
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  Speaker 3: four points. I wasn't tracking that yet. It's usually part
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  Speaker 3: of the process once inactives come out. But, yeah, it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't look like too many.
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  Speaker 2: But part of that might have been A.J. Brown and
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  Speaker 2: Travion stuff. It mainly came down to the team total
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  Speaker 2: for the Pats, which we care more about than the
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  Speaker 2: whole game because of the– we don't have as much
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  Speaker 2: interest on the other side. It came down two points,
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  Speaker 2: and I think probably at least one and a half
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  Speaker 2: points is due to A.J. Brown and Travion more than
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  Speaker 2: the weather.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and someone said it too, Florida rain. Oh, it
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  Speaker 3: could be in and out. Like you say, you're not
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  Speaker 3: going into a snowstorm in Wisconsin or something like that
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  Speaker 3: where you're used to that. Those teams sometimes are used
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  Speaker 3: to it, but the team's coming in there obviously a
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  Speaker 3: lot harder. So I like that call out as well. Title,
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  Speaker 3: any other thoughts from you just wrapping things up or
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: putting it all together now at the end of this slate?
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean, mainly like I'm manually bumping Jamar Chase, Puka.
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  Speaker 2: I really like these Spen receivers more to hopefully avoid
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: some of the fringe year value. And then when it
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: does get to the fringier Valley value, like Chisholm, uh,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: who did I have earlier? I thought Florida was fine. Uh,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: Jacoby lane. I, this Titan stuff scares me. The more
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: I think about it to, to play into some Titans chalk.
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  Speaker 2: With that being said though, I love the other side
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  Speaker 2: with the bingo so much. It's like, it feels like
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  Speaker 2: the Titans will have to do something. And if you
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  Speaker 2: don't think they do then over stack or play the
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: bingos and then play bingos defense, like you said, and
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  Speaker 2: then you tell a story that way. So Great slate though.
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  Speaker 2: When no one's projected over 30% or one guy, 25%
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  Speaker 2: on FanDuel, you can do it. Whatever you like, do it.
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  Speaker 2: And it's very easy to get overweight.
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of the things you said about like
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: the Titans value and obviously like for cash games, people
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: pick their poison, land it there and whatever. And they'll
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  Speaker 3: feel good because they probably have at least chase Brown
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  Speaker 3: with some of the, well, I got the secondary stack
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: and it clicks and it makes sense. And they tell
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: themselves that story and it's very possible. It still gets there.
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  Speaker 3: But to your point, you can just also play the
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: Bengals D not play those guys or just ignore them
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  Speaker 3: altogether and not need the Bengals D, but that's a point.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: But you also can just use these other value plays
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: in their stacks and Like when you measure, like if
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: you're on Drake, man, you get Efton Chisholm in there.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: That's fine. Like if he actually has a good enough
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: game that it matters, you're playing Lamar and you get
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: your Kobe lane. They're great born with that game stack.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: Like there's a floor noise with that game stack. There's
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: lots of ways that you can go to still make
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: your lineups, make sense, tell a story and not require
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: certain options in other games. That's kind of been the
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: takeaway for me today with like the Baltimore Buffalo stuff.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: Someone said earlier. it's gonna fail it's almost impossible it
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: fails as a real life game but for dfs because
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: it could be three three and exciting down to the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: last play of alan and him go but for dfs
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: is all we care about and if it you know
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: spreads out too much or is a bad outcome as
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: far as the totals and the fantasy point scoring and
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: all that if you're not on it great so if
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: you're on it i kind of want to be in
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: or out in that situation i don't always want to
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: account for it just because you have to so that's
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  Speaker 3: my thoughts there hoop final thoughts from you man before
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  Speaker 3: we get.
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  Speaker 1: Out of here Yeah, I mean, very well-rounded slate. I mean,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: there's a lot. I mean, there's so many different games
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: to go to, so many different spots. There's value. There's spend-ups.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: There's overlooked spend-ups. You know, the Gibbs and Bijan stuff
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: is something I really want to analyze a little bit more.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, just the two studs, basically number one and
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: two season-long picks, like coming in at low ownership today,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: that definitely– is something that's sticking in my mind. If
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: you're hand building, like there's just no way you go
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: to like Gibbs or B John with all the value.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: So something I'm going to look at for sure, overweight
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: stance on those stud running backs. But it's, it's a
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: great slate. And you know, one of the key points
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: title pointed out early, like nothing really over 25%, like
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: it's getting spread out quite a bit. So you can
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: build what you like and kind of, kind of move on.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: So it's a fun one. Good luck to everyone. Let's
• 1:27:01
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• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it again. Let's make week eight. Great.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: The last point you said that I liked about the
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: pay up running backs is that even if you only
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: go one of them, most people aren't going with any,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: but even if you only go with one, It's been
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: a thing forever in DFS. It almost puts you on
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: the mid-range at wide receiver. Most people are going multiple
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: cheap running backs and then being able to get Lamb
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: or whatever else they want, Higgins, Chase, et cetera, et cetera.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: If you go to at least one pay up running back,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: you can get to the more mid-range wide receivers, which
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: look pretty good on this slate. So you want to
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