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- 0:00Speaker 1: President Trump is calling on other countries to help secure
- 0:03Speaker 1: safe passage of ships through the Strait of Horror Moves.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Trump specifically called on China, France, the UK and others
- 0:11Speaker 1: to help a shipping traffic has been at a virtual
- 0:13Speaker 1: standstill in the strait, caused gas prices to spike. In
- 0:17Speaker 1: a new interview with ms NOW, Iran's foreign minister disputed
- 0:21Speaker 1: the claim that the strait is closed. Seeing N correspondent
- 0:24Speaker 1: Julia Benbrook has more.
- 0:27Speaker 2: This is a big area of focus right now, as
- 0:29Speaker 2: roughly twenty percent of the world's oil travels through the
- 0:32Speaker 2: Strait of Horror Moves, and President Donald Trump has posted
- 0:35Speaker 2: about this several times over the weekend. I want to
- 0:38Speaker 2: pull up part of one of those posts for you
- 0:40Speaker 2: now in it, he said this, many countries, especially those
- 0:44Speaker 2: who are affected by Iran's attempted closure of the Horror
- 0:47Speaker 2: Moves straight, will be sending warships in conjunction with the
- 0:51Speaker 2: United States of America to keep the strait open and safe.
- 0:55Speaker 2: We have already destroyed one hundred percent of Iran's military capability,
- 0:59Speaker 2: but it's easy for them to send a drone or two,
- 1:01Speaker 2: drop a mine, or deliver a close range missile somewhere
- 1:05Speaker 2: along or in this waterway, no matter how badly defeated
- 1:09Speaker 2: they are. He added that he hopes, emphasis on hopes
- 1:13Speaker 2: there that China, France, South Korea, and the United Kingdom
- 1:16Speaker 2: will be sending ships. In the meantime, he says that
- 1:20Speaker 2: the United States will be bombing the shoreline now. In
- 1:24Speaker 2: a separate post, he reiterated his calls for other countries
- 1:27Speaker 2: to help secure shipping in the passage, adding that he
- 1:32Speaker 2: believes this should have been a team effort all along,
- 1:34Speaker 2: and now it will be. He said the United States
- 1:37Speaker 2: will be helping with coordination to ensure that this is
- 1:40Speaker 2: done quickly, smoothly, and well. And this comes as Americans
- 1:44Speaker 2: are feeling a direct impact here, as there is a
- 1:47Speaker 2: surge in gas prices, and while Trump has said he
- 1:49Speaker 2: is confident those will eventually go down, this could be
- 1:52Speaker 2: an attempt to ease some of those growing concerns. Iran's
- 1:57Speaker 2: foreign minister has denied claims that the strait is completely closed,
- 2:01Speaker 2: instead saying that they are blocking vessels with ties to
- 2:06Speaker 2: the United States and Israel.
- 2:08Speaker 1: A week ago, President Trump told Keir Starmer that he
- 2:13Speaker 1: didn't need help from the British, especially coming in after
- 2:18Speaker 1: the US, in his words, had already won. Fast forward
- 2:22Speaker 1: to this weekend where he's asking for help from China, France, Japan,
- 2:27Speaker 1: South Korea, the UK others as well to continue passage
- 2:32Speaker 1: through the straight offor moves frame the reality that is
- 2:37Speaker 1: confronting the president at this stage of the war.
- 2:41Speaker 3: Sure, I think his initial comments were related to the
- 2:45Speaker 3: four objectives that were laid out in terms of what
- 2:47Speaker 3: the Pentagon was trying to achieve from a military perspective,
- 2:49Speaker 3: because there was a question about whether or not we
- 2:51Speaker 3: would need to use the British base at Diego Garcia
- 2:54Speaker 3: in the Indian Ocean to be able to launch strategic
- 2:56Speaker 3: bombers against Iran, and I think the Pentagon determined obviously
- 3:00Speaker 3: now that it could do so without having to use
- 3:02Speaker 3: that base. Now we're talking about a different mission set.
- 3:04Speaker 3: So in addition to those four objectives that were laid
- 3:06Speaker 3: out in terms of taking out the missiles, the missile launchers,
- 3:10Speaker 3: the drones, the Defense Industrial base behind that, the Navy,
- 3:13Speaker 3: and then potentially the nuclear program which Cedric just spoke
- 3:16Speaker 3: to in terms of what they're targeting, a new mission
- 3:18Speaker 3: set has popped up, and that is the defense of
- 3:20Speaker 3: the Straits of Hormuz to allow folks to be able
- 3:22Speaker 3: to transit their commercial shipping. Wise, because the Iranians have
- 3:25Speaker 3: now adopted a strategy of trying to buy pressure on
- 3:28Speaker 3: the US administration to stop the war by jacking up
- 3:32Speaker 3: the price of oil, basically by making the trade the
- 3:34Speaker 3: straits virtually impossible to strands that they're physically open, but
- 3:38Speaker 3: due to the threat of a potential attack, ships are
- 3:40Speaker 3: not transiting at the moment, and so the US is
- 3:42Speaker 3: trying to build an international naval coalition similar to what
- 3:44Speaker 3: they did off the coast of Yemen when the hoo
- 3:46Speaker 3: Thies were attacking during the last round of conflict.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Colonel I want you to listen here to the Iranian
- 3:51Speaker 1: Foreign Minister Abasarachi, he was on last evening's watch.
- 4:00Speaker 4: Say that the threat is not closed, but it is
- 4:03Speaker 4: only closed to American and is really you know, ships
- 4:08Speaker 4: and anchors.
- 4:10Speaker 5: Are not to others.
- 4:13Speaker 1: So he says it's it's open our countries. Companies likely
- 4:19Speaker 1: to test that assurance. I mean, consider President Pozeski and
- 4:24Speaker 1: said that the Iranians were sorry for attacking their golf
- 4:29Speaker 1: neighbors and then continued hours later to attack them. And
- 4:33Speaker 1: still are you think anybody's going to test that offer.
- 4:38Speaker 6: I don't think so a victor, and I think, you know,
- 4:41Speaker 6: as Alex was alluding to, the basic thing is this,
- 4:45Speaker 6: because the Iranians can't be trusted, shipping companies are not
- 4:49Speaker 6: going to trust them, and that's the real dilemma for them.
- 4:53Speaker 5: Here.
- 4:53Speaker 6: They've got a whole bunch of ships on either side
- 4:56Speaker 6: of the Straight or Foremos, and those ships aren't moving
- 5:00Speaker 6: except for a very few exceptions. Because the Iranians are
- 5:04Speaker 6: opposing a threat, they probably so far at least have
- 5:07Speaker 6: not really mined the straight offemus maybe you know, symbolic
- 5:12Speaker 6: since they've done you know, they've deployed a few minds,
- 5:14Speaker 6: but they have not done so en mass, and that,
- 5:17Speaker 6: I you know, definitely leads to the conclusion that yes,
- 5:21Speaker 6: it's physically possible to possibly translate transit the Straight, but
- 5:27Speaker 6: it's very dangerous and there's a risk there that they're
- 5:29Speaker 6: not willing to take Alete.
- 5:31Speaker 1: What's your thought on what the President told NBC that
- 5:34Speaker 1: he's not ready to make a deal to end the war.
- 5:38Speaker 1: The President says that Iran wants to make a deal,
- 5:41Speaker 1: but he doesn't want to quote because the terms aren't good.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Enough yet doesn't say what those terms are, but implied
- 5:50Speaker 1: here is that there are terms offered, that there are talks,
- 5:53Speaker 1: that there are some offers from the Iranians. Doesn't seem
- 5:56Speaker 1: like there's been anything since the talks before the the
- 6:00Speaker 1: opening of this war. What do you hear there from
- 6:02Speaker 1: the president?
- 6:05Speaker 3: Well, I'm here from the President's when I'm hearing from
- 6:06Speaker 3: mediators in the region as well, where there's been several
- 6:08Speaker 3: nation states that have attempted to mediate or pass messages
- 6:11Speaker 3: in between, and so that part is just alluded to. Yes,
- 6:14Speaker 3: I mean, that's pretty common at this point in the war.
- 6:17Speaker 3: And this actually all aligns with strategies on both sides,
- 6:20Speaker 3: to be honest with you. So you know, it looks
- 6:22Speaker 3: like there's several weeks of strikes left to complete the
- 6:24Speaker 3: military mission on the US side, and it becomes a
- 6:26Speaker 3: question of will. Is the will there to see the
- 6:28Speaker 3: mission through and ensure that there's not a capability left
- 6:31Speaker 3: inside of Iran they could strike back, And I think
- 6:33Speaker 3: the President's made clear that the objectives that he's laid
- 6:36Speaker 3: out are to make sure that Iran doesn't have a
- 6:38Speaker 3: nuclear weapon or the ability to get one. At the
- 6:40Speaker 3: end of this you know to break out, so to speak,
- 6:42Speaker 3: missiles and drones and that type of thing, which is
- 6:44Speaker 3: a pretty robust mission. It's a very very big industrial
- 6:46Speaker 3: base that has to be targeted in order to sort
- 6:48Speaker 3: of take that out. And for the Iranians, they're acting
- 6:50Speaker 3: from a position of existential threat. They believe that the
- 6:53Speaker 3: regime is a threat, and so they're doing everything they
- 6:55Speaker 3: can to try to ensure that this doesn't end in
- 6:58Speaker 3: an unconditional surrender. They want a conditional ceasefire on their terms.
- 7:01Speaker 3: So I think at this point you almost have to
- 7:03Speaker 3: see the Straits mission through and open that up and
- 7:05Speaker 3: not allow the Iranians to choke it off, or that's
- 7:07Speaker 3: going to become a strategic choke point and means of
- 7:09Speaker 3: des in the future, and that'll hold the global economy
- 7:12Speaker 3: basically at risk whenever the Iranians want to and that's
- 7:14Speaker 3: something that simply can't stand.
- 7:16Speaker 4: How do you see this playing out from where we
- 7:18Speaker 4: sit today?
- 7:21Speaker 7: The President doesn't yet know how to get the Straits reopened.
- 7:25Speaker 7: As of right now, almost all of the naval assets
- 7:30Speaker 7: that the United States has in the Persian Gulf are
- 7:33Speaker 7: being used to defend golf infrastructure, energy desalination, and bases,
- 7:41Speaker 7: and as a consequence, you can't defend the ships that
- 7:44Speaker 7: are going through the straits or that are sitting there
- 7:46Speaker 7: in the streets, which are right now basically sitting ducks,
- 7:49Speaker 7: if the Iranians choose to hit them. That's why President
- 7:53Speaker 7: Trump is suddenly calling pretty urgently for.
- 7:57Speaker 5: Every country around, including China.
- 7:59Speaker 7: He's asked looking for other countries to send ships. And
- 8:03Speaker 7: this was member of the United States when they launched
- 8:04Speaker 7: this war went with the Israelis. They weren't asking anyone
- 8:08Speaker 7: else to be a part of it. They weren't getting
- 8:10Speaker 7: anyone else's heads up. They were telling the Brits, we
- 8:12Speaker 7: already won. That was just last Saturday. It's too late
- 8:15Speaker 7: for you to send any ships. One week later, he's
- 8:17Speaker 7: saying we need a global flotilla. And that is because
- 8:22Speaker 7: the impact of these straits staying disrupted. But the only
- 8:26Speaker 7: country that can get ships out right now the Iranians.
- 8:29Speaker 7: That is a major major disruption that we're going to
- 8:32Speaker 7: feel for months in the United States and the global economy.
- 8:36Speaker 4: And so two follow ups to that, what is the
- 8:38Speaker 4: likelihood of this actually happening? What the President is requesting
- 8:41Speaker 4: these other countries coming together to help and are you
- 8:44Speaker 4: surprised by Iran's actions that they were willing to do
- 8:48Speaker 4: it and shut down the street.
- 8:52Speaker 7: I think that other countries are going to participate. We've
- 8:55Speaker 7: certainly heard from the French. I suspect the Brits will participate.
- 8:58Speaker 7: I think other countries will as well, maybe even India.
- 9:01Speaker 7: How much of that will be defensive overwhelmingly. It's not
- 9:04Speaker 7: like they're joining the United States and a coalition of
- 9:07Speaker 7: the willing to beat up on Iran. But everybody wants
- 9:10Speaker 7: the straits reopen now. And India has managed to get
- 9:14Speaker 7: one of their own tankers through in the last twenty
- 9:16Speaker 7: four hours on the back of an agreement between Mody
- 9:19Speaker 7: and the Iranian president.
- 9:21Speaker 5: Maybe we can get more support that way too, But.
- 9:24Speaker 7: No, I mean the surprise here is that the United
- 9:28Speaker 7: States did not have a plan for what happens if
- 9:32Speaker 7: they don't have a regime they can work with, and
- 9:34Speaker 7: they don't.
- 9:35Speaker 5: I mean, everybody.
- 9:36Speaker 7: Knew that the Straits of Hormuz could be made impassable
- 9:40Speaker 7: by the Iranians.
- 9:41Speaker 5: I mean, this is something that the.
- 9:42Speaker 7: CIA analysts and the Department of Defense analysts have been
- 9:46Speaker 7: working through for decades. It's been scenario planned every which way,
- 9:50Speaker 7: So that doesn't come as a surprise. But Trump wasn't
- 9:53Speaker 7: worried about it because he said, well, after we decapitate
- 9:57Speaker 7: the Iranians, they're not going to do anything. They're going
- 9:59Speaker 7: to need to work with us. That turns out to
- 10:01Speaker 7: not be the case at all. And so two weeks
- 10:04Speaker 7: into this war, a war of choice, Trump's timeline, Trump's preferences,
- 10:09Speaker 7: Trump's extent of targeting. You still got the straits closed
- 10:14Speaker 7: with no way out. And it is urgent for Trump,
- 10:19Speaker 7: who is now facing four dollar gas real soon in
- 10:23Speaker 7: the United States. And you know, fertilizer, you don't get
- 10:26Speaker 7: fertilizer through it's too late if it's after the planting season.
- 10:29Speaker 5: That's going to come through.
- 10:31Speaker 7: Food costs all over the world, grocery stores in the
- 10:34Speaker 7: United States. Too late if you don't get that done urgently.
- 10:37Speaker 7: So he does understand the urgency, he just doesn't have
- 10:40Speaker 7: a plan for it.
- 10:42Speaker 4: And so to the point about who is in charge
- 10:44Speaker 4: in Iran and how that is all working, I do
- 10:48Speaker 4: want to ask you about Iran's new Supreme leader. Ostensibly
- 10:51Speaker 4: we heard a purported statement from him in this last week,
- 10:54Speaker 4: the first statement since he was named, But we have
- 10:57Speaker 4: not seen him in public. We have not heard from him.
- 11:00Speaker 4: What does that mean.
- 11:01Speaker 5: To you, Well, we know a couple of things.
- 11:05Speaker 7: He certainly doesn't have experience running the country. And they
- 11:10Speaker 7: also are mostly cut off from their local commanders because
- 11:14Speaker 7: the idea of military leadership having regular conversations with the
- 11:20Speaker 7: commanders on the ground means that they are potentially more
- 11:24Speaker 7: vulnerable to the Israelis than the Americans striking them.
- 11:27Speaker 5: So right now, the.
- 11:28Speaker 7: Decisions being made to put all of these drones in
- 11:32Speaker 7: the air against all of these targets around the Gulf,
- 11:35Speaker 7: those are being made locally.
- 11:37Speaker 5: At the same time.
- 11:39Speaker 7: It was the Iranian President who is a symbolic leader
- 11:42Speaker 7: and hasn't had a lot of power, but he's the
- 11:44Speaker 7: one that talked with Mody, the Indian Prime Minister, to
- 11:48Speaker 7: essentially get a swap steel done that got a tanker through.
- 11:51Speaker 7: So it's very hard to know what, if any authority
- 11:56Speaker 7: the Supreme Leader has on a day to day basis now.
- 12:00Speaker 7: I mean, the analysts that we have that are very
- 12:02Speaker 7: close to politics in Iran have no visibility on that whatsoever.
- 12:08Speaker 4: Yeah, and so it leaves this that open question that
- 12:11Speaker 4: you're getting at right there. What about Iran's allies in
- 12:15Speaker 4: this war. China by far the biggest buyer of Iranian oil,
- 12:19Speaker 4: and US intelligence suggests they're preparing to financially aid Iran
- 12:22Speaker 4: as well. What about the China and all of.
- 12:25Speaker 7: This, Well, the Chinese, of course, would much rather see
- 12:29Speaker 7: the Straits open. They have right now plenty of oil
- 12:33Speaker 7: and reserves probably for three months of domestic usage, so.
- 12:36Speaker 5: It's not urgent for them.
- 12:38Speaker 7: But these prices are hurting their economy clearly, and that
- 12:40Speaker 7: will also be true for fertilizer, It's going to be
- 12:43Speaker 7: true for you, petrochemicals and the rest.
- 12:45Speaker 5: So they want this open.
- 12:49Speaker 7: You know that the tankers that are getting out right
- 12:51Speaker 7: now are Iranian tankers. Pete Hegseth said this in his
- 12:56Speaker 7: press conference yesterday morning.
- 12:58Speaker 5: He said that the Straits are not blocked. That is true.
- 13:01Speaker 7: There are Iranian tankers getting out, and they are getting
- 13:04Speaker 7: out to provide oil to China. The United States has
- 13:08Speaker 7: every capacity to interdict them if they wish.
- 13:11Speaker 5: They don't.
- 13:12Speaker 7: They want the prices lower, just like why the US
- 13:15Speaker 7: is right now suspending sanctions on Russian oil.
- 13:18Speaker 5: And they also don't want to antagonize the Chinese.
- 13:20Speaker 7: Remember, just six hours ago, Trump called on the Chinese
- 13:24Speaker 7: to help keep the strait open. So, and he also
- 13:29Speaker 7: has he's going to travel to China in a couple
- 13:31Speaker 7: of weeks and he's going to meet with Chijin Ping
- 13:34Speaker 7: and he wants good relations there. So he doesn't want
- 13:37Speaker 7: to suddenly be responsible for shutting down oil to China.
- 13:42Speaker 7: But it is all very ironic in an environment where
- 13:45Speaker 7: the Americans are at war with Iran, that the Iranians
- 13:48Speaker 7: are presently sending oil to China, and the Chinese, of course,
- 13:51Speaker 7: are quite comfortable with that.
- 13:53Speaker 4: Yeah, interesting stuff, Abrumer, great context. Thank you so much.
- 13:57Speaker 4: We appreciate it.