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Speaker 1: It's the reform It tonight in Fortune Today actually went up,
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Speaker 1: but the treasure it says the numbers are good, but
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Speaker 1: it's not how a lot of Australians are actually feeling.
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Speaker 2: What does your day to day look like?
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Speaker 3: Pretty blak, sit at home all day. I can't afford
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Speaker 3: to do anything, so I stay home.
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Speaker 4: So we'll get to the truth of all this later
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Speaker 4: and give you a tip on Interest race where they
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Speaker 4: go up yet again. Also tonight, terrible news for the
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Speaker 4: two thousand and so half of Rex airlines. No pay,
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Speaker 4: no money even for redundancies, mass sackings coming. Meanwhile, you
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Speaker 4: will not believe how much is spent each year on
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Speaker 4: global warming schemes. Makes you sick? Save the planet, how
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Speaker 4: about saving the poor? And huge news from the Middle East.
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Speaker 4: Israel hits back with stunning assassination attacks against top leaders
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Speaker 4: of both the Harmas and hesbel are terrorist armies. But
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Speaker 4: first and a warning, I'm going to show you some
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Speaker 4: confronting video and talk about things a lot of people
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Speaker 4: don't want to discuss, would rather silence us than have
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Speaker 4: you hear it. There have been absolutely shocking scenes from
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Speaker 4: Britain that a warning.
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Speaker 5: To us as well. What are we doing to ourselves.
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Speaker 4: On Monday, seventeen year old boy allegedly went into a
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Speaker 4: children's dance class in Southport, England, stabbed nine children. Three
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Speaker 4: are dead, five in a critical condition. Two adults who
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Speaker 4: tried to save them also stabbed, also in a critical condition.
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Speaker 4: And all that is terrible enough, then look what followed.
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Speaker 4: And this is before I'll tell you what came before.
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Speaker 4: You have to know that too to understand what followed.
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Speaker 4: The Prime Minister was actually heckled when he came to
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Speaker 4: lay flowers for the dead.
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Speaker 6: How many more children that die on street? Prime Minister?
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Speaker 6: How many more children? That's already a sign of deep
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Speaker 6: unrested in Britain. But even worse, far right nationalists decided
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Speaker 6: to attack the local mosque, shouting English until I die
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Speaker 6: so English that they also attacked the English police. And
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Speaker 6: in all this, well it might seem inappropriate to show
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Speaker 6: something that looks a little farcical, but in all this
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Speaker 6: they were really just hurting themselves and hurting England as well,
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Speaker 6: by their savagery and their sheer stupidity and their violence. Now,
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Speaker 6: these guys who believe tweets claiming that the seventeen year
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Speaker 6: old alleged killer was Muslim. That actually seems extremely unlikely.
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Speaker 4: That the boy was born in Wales to a family
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Speaker 4: from Rwanda, which is ninety percent Christian. But police aren't
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Speaker 4: saying what drove him. Not terrorism they think, they don't
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Speaker 4: think yet, but anti immigration politician Najel Farage, leader of
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Speaker 4: the Form Party, exploited both the murders and the past failures.
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Speaker 4: Are police to be frank over attacks involving foreigners?
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Speaker 5: The police say it's a non terror incident. I just
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Speaker 5: wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us.
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Speaker 4: When I say foreigners, I should say immigrant communities. So
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Speaker 4: so far we have a story that most of the
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Speaker 4: media will report as a terrible murder that exposes the
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Speaker 4: racism of white Britain in the backlash, that's the easiest
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Speaker 4: and safest way to report this. You know, no one's
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Speaker 4: going to sue you trying to drive your fare, except
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Speaker 4: you might suddenly be wondering. You'd be left wondering why
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Speaker 4: why there is this sort of reaction in Britain. I mean,
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Speaker 4: this racial and religious tension you're seeing is worse than
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Speaker 4: I've ever known in my whole life.
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Speaker 5: It's worse in Australia.
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Speaker 4: Too, and that's why you need to go back. How
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Speaker 4: about Triscoe back two weeks. That'll do for a start
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Speaker 4: to see what incredible things have been happening that yes,
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Speaker 4: might indeed stir right wing hooligans into violence, but might
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Speaker 4: also be quietly troubling many peace loving people in the middle.
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about things like police a social workers in
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Speaker 4: Leeds being attacked two weeks ago when they removed the
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Speaker 4: child they thought was in danger, removed the child from
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Speaker 4: a home of Roma people in a kind of immigrant
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Speaker 4: enclave of the kind now so common in big cities,
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Speaker 4: in this case with many other Roma and Romanian immigrants,
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Speaker 4: as well as Muslim and other minorities, and that sparked
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Speaker 4: the right as if these communities were fighting a hostile army.
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Speaker 4: Then there was the last week, three police, two of
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Speaker 4: them women, who were viciously punched to the ground at
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Speaker 4: Manchester Airport, one at a nose broken Muslim men of
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Speaker 4: Pakistani background at that airport last week and with one
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Speaker 4: officer tried to stop them, he kicked one man in
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Speaker 4: the head. Muslim crowds attacked their local police station. Approaches
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Speaker 4: are there for days with the prominent Muslim anti racism campaigner.
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Speaker 4: During that some people seem to be pissed because a
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Speaker 4: kind of because a bunch of white officers got their
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Speaker 4: asses handed to them. But pakistanis And last week a
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Speaker 4: man of African appearance with the common Nigerian surname repeatedly
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Speaker 4: stabbed the lieutenant colonel in full uniform walking from his house.
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Speaker 5: Again we're not told motive.
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Speaker 4: None of this excuses the right of the Southport mosque,
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Speaker 4: none of it, but just to dismiss it as there
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Speaker 4: you go, British racism. That's not the whole picture. There's
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Speaker 4: also fear, the fear and anger of poor whites have
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Speaker 4: got no other place to go than their own country.
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Speaker 4: Don't have the money, don't have the skills, don't have
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Speaker 4: the education. Not like the journalist's class, the politicians, they
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Speaker 4: can live almost anywhere. So all this does raise questions
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Speaker 4: again about we're the mass immigration plus identity politics plus
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Speaker 4: a strand of any white anti colonial activism has created
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Speaker 4: a powder cake where extreme some both sides get stronger.
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Speaker 4: People in between wonder what the hell has happened to
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Speaker 4: their country when a man carrying the British flag can
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Speaker 4: get arrested in his own countries at a pro Palestinian
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Speaker 4: march in London. How did Britain and Australia as well
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Speaker 4: get to the position where police people are People are
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Speaker 4: increasingly othering each other, you know, by race or religion
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Speaker 4: or origin.
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Speaker 5: They're the other.
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Speaker 4: And that's the thing with all this. People who think
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Speaker 4: that those around them are the other won't treat them
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Speaker 4: like their own. And that goes for both sides. And
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Speaker 4: unless we do so much more to build and remind
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Speaker 4: us of what unites is not divides as is so fashionable,
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Speaker 4: this ugliness is our future. But back home, today's inflation figure,
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Speaker 4: it's gone up to three point eight percent for the year,
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Speaker 4: which means it's essentially stuck. It hasn't been falling since
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Speaker 4: the Reserve Bank stopped raising interest rates back in the December,
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Speaker 4: which leaves inflation higher than it is in many other
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Speaker 4: big economies.
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Speaker 5: We're an outlier now.
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Speaker 4: If this doesn't get better, we might need even more
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Speaker 4: rises in interest rates to bring it down. Well, let
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Speaker 4: me put it this inflation in the way that people
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Speaker 4: are actually feeling it. How our poor feel it to
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Speaker 4: have food prices go up eleven percent in the past
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Speaker 4: two years, electricity up nearly twenty two percent, rent fifteen percent.
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Speaker 3: Are doing it pretty tough. Well, this starts from the
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Speaker 3: Salvation army two dollars.
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Speaker 2: What does your day to day look like?
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Speaker 3: Pretty bleak? Sit at home all day, kin't afforded anything home.
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Speaker 4: My wife deals with the poor, breaks your heart stories.
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Speaker 4: By the way, if someone actually knows that guy, can.
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Speaker 5: You reach out?
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Speaker 4: Will you just reach out?
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Speaker 5: But to the treasure of today's figures were good.
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Speaker 7: What this means is that we are seeing underlying inflation
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Speaker 7: in our economy moderate. We would like it to moderate
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Speaker 7: further and faster, but this is the sixth consecutive quarter
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Speaker 7: that underlying inflation has moderated, and it is also moderating
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Speaker 7: in quarterly and annual terms.
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Speaker 5: And we welcome that.
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Speaker 4: Must have said that another half a dozen times, although
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Speaker 4: when you was pushed well, the figures could actually be
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Speaker 4: bad and considered hurting the poor, particularly you know, food rent.
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Speaker 7: The very small tickup in headline inflation is unwelcome, but
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Speaker 7: it's unsurprising. We expected that to be temporary factors around
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Speaker 7: fruit and veg also travel costs, but we also know
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Speaker 7: that rent and insurance are persistent price pressures in our economy.
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Speaker 4: Joining me is the country stop foregn affairs Ruter Terry
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Speaker 4: mccran with the Herald's son Terry. Great to see you again,
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Speaker 4: So can you end this debate that Jim Charmers seemed
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Speaker 4: to be having with himself. Inflation at three point eight percent,
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Speaker 4: is that good news or bad?
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Speaker 8: Well, we saw Jim Chalmers desperately paddling words were coming
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Speaker 8: out of his mouth which didn't make a lot of
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Speaker 8: sense in a desperate attempt to keep his head above
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Speaker 8: water politically, which is not the same thing as keeping
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Speaker 8: the heads of twenty six million Australians above water in
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Speaker 8: terms of their basic finances and the reality of inflation
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Speaker 8: on the ground. As you enumerated, Andrew, three point eight
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Speaker 8: percent might sound that bad, but when you break get
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Speaker 8: down to specific areas which really hit people, power prices,
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Speaker 8: food prices, rents and, if not rents, interest rates on
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Speaker 8: your mortgage, these are hitting people much harder than that
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Speaker 8: three point eight percent would suggest. This is not a
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Speaker 8: good number in fundamental terms. This is a number which
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Speaker 8: does raise the prospect going down the track that unless
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Speaker 8: we start to see it coming down, the Reserve Bank
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Speaker 8: will have to go back to interest rate hikes. Not
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Speaker 8: next week it'll keep the rates unchanged next week because
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Speaker 8: it basically expected this number, but it also expects this
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Speaker 8: number to come down as we get into September and
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Speaker 8: through into twenty twenty five. If it doesn't come down
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Speaker 8: and the government is not helping, as we know, why
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Speaker 8: is this inflation occurring. It's occurring because of things that
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Speaker 8: the government are doing. Why do we get those power
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Speaker 8: price rises, that's the government. Why are we getting the
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Speaker 8: pressures on rents, that's the government. With all the immigration,
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Speaker 8: so the government is making it that much harder for
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Speaker 8: every Australian but also for the Reserve Bank.
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Speaker 4: And you're not even including the massive spending by federal
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Speaker 4: and state governments too. That's flooding the economy with more
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Speaker 4: moneys and that we should have while the Reserve Bank
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Speaker 4: has been trying to suck it out with interest rate rises.
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Speaker 4: But Terry, you know you've really pushed my button on that.
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Speaker 4: The electricity prices right are absolutely correct. That is being
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Speaker 4: driven in large part by governments making it driving cheap,
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Speaker 4: reliable power out of the market replacing with expensive wind
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Speaker 4: and solid It always needs backup, that's why it's so expensive.
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Speaker 4: Look at what the power prices are doing the poor
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Speaker 4: are suffering particularly, It just goes to this.
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Speaker 5: Whole massive boondoggle that.
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Speaker 4: You've been riding about this week in one of your columns,
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Speaker 4: the US Treasury Secretary saying that for the world to
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Speaker 4: cut in and zero, which is our government's plan as
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Speaker 4: well by twenty fifty, is going to cost get this,
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Speaker 4: four and a half trillion dollars every single year for
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Speaker 4: the next twenty six years. Four and a half trillion
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Speaker 4: dollars Australian. That doesn't seem to be a great deal, Terry.
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Speaker 5: Well, it depends which way you're looking at it, Andrew.
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Speaker 8: If you're looking at it in terms of your viewers
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Speaker 8: who have to pay that bill, not obviously all of
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Speaker 8: the bill. We're talking about the world our share of
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Speaker 8: that bill, which runs into thousands of dollars per person
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Speaker 8: per year every year, go out to twenty fifty. As
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Speaker 8: you indicated, it's not a great deal. But if you
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Speaker 8: look at the people that are going to make money
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Speaker 8: out of this process, and there are two types of
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Speaker 8: people that are going to make money out of this process,
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Speaker 8: those that are building wind turbines, are installing wind turbine
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Speaker 8: solar panels, et cetera, et cetera. People working on the
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Speaker 8: big battery in the snow hydro scheme certainly not complaining.
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Speaker 8: And most of all Wall Street and our versions of
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Speaker 8: Wall Street, for most obviously Mcquarie Bank, which will be
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Speaker 8: packaging the finance and taking a share of that trillions
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Speaker 8: of dollars every year. They will love it, of course,
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Speaker 8: they will love it. And that was precisely the message
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Speaker 8: that the Treasure Sect was selling to Wall Street. You
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Speaker 8: will love all the spending because you will get a
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Speaker 8: slice of the money as it passes passes through yep.
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Speaker 5: And that's money that the poor can't afford.
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Speaker 4: And boy, their lives will being immeasurably better if we
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Speaker 4: built not wind farms, but things that really help people
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Speaker 4: with this cost of living crisis. Terry mccran, thank you
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Speaker 4: so much for your time. I'm going to go back
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Speaker 4: to politics local politics with the panels shortly, but I
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Speaker 4: want to go to the breaking news today. A huge news,
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Speaker 4: great news for Israel and his supporters. Israel has assassinated
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Speaker 4: the top foreign leader of Hamas, that's the terrorist group
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Speaker 4: that started the war with Israeltovi seven last year by
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Speaker 4: slaughtering twelve hundred israelis now Hamasa's chief political leader is
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Speaker 4: Ishmael Honeya, who we'd last seen watching that slaughter back
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Speaker 4: then and the kidnappings and dropping to his knees in
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Speaker 4: prayer in gratitude for the horror he was actually witnessing.
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Speaker 4: Now killing him is massive. Hanea used to be the
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Speaker 4: leader of Hamas in Gaza, but then moved to Qatar
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Speaker 4: to be head of it, Hamas's polypiro, sort of it's
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Speaker 4: chief diplomat, chief foreign face, the chief money raiser. He
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Speaker 4: wouldn't have been in charge with the mass attack on
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Speaker 4: Israel that started this war. But this is a huge
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Speaker 4: blow to those terrorists, but also to Iran because of
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Speaker 4: where and when Ania was killed. Hamas is actually funded
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Speaker 4: by Iran. That's a big puppet master here that's pulling
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Speaker 4: all these terrorists strings. And Honey was in Iran to
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Speaker 4: hug and to celebrate the inauguration of Iran's new president.
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Speaker 4: They're hugging just hours before his assassination.
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Speaker 5: And during the.
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Speaker 4: Ceremony on the day he was killed, Honey and nodded
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Speaker 4: along as the Iranian parliament chanted death to.
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Speaker 5: Israel, Death to Israel.
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Speaker 4: There was this said death to Honey with a missile
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Speaker 4: far through the window of his apartment in the Iranian capital.
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Speaker 4: Israel hasn't claiming responsibility. Iran knows this humiliated, this man
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Speaker 4: their client killed on its soil. Obviously that Peter Dutton
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Speaker 4: today is in Israel and he had this to say.
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Speaker 9: We know that Hamas is a terrorist organization. We know
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Speaker 9: that they were responsible for the brutal slaughter literally all
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Speaker 9: over a longer period of time, thousands of people. And
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Speaker 9: we know that they were the master behind the October
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Speaker 9: seven atrocity. So, like we know with al Qaeda and
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Speaker 9: other terrorist organizations, they pose a threat to our way
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Speaker 9: of life. They certainly pose an existential threat to the
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Speaker 9: Israeli people, and you would expect the Israelis to take action, particularly.
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Speaker 5: Given the slaughter that took place on October seven.
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Speaker 4: Now that full interview of Peter Dutt will be later
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Speaker 4: tonight on Shari. Now Hamas is shattering, it's lost its
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Speaker 4: top leader abroad. Israel also thinks it's killed the Hamas
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Speaker 4: military leader Mohammad Deev in Gaza three weeks ago, which
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Speaker 4: leaves the Hamas overall leader in Gaza. Yeah, he's the
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Speaker 4: only one that left.
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Speaker 5: You must feel a hunted man.
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Speaker 4: Now yesterday Israel also fared. I mean, there's been two
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Speaker 4: massive blows to Iranian back terrorist groups within twenty four hours.
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Speaker 4: Israel also found a precision missile into Beirut, the Lebanese capital,
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Speaker 4: and assassinated one of Iran's top generals that were actually
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Speaker 4: guiding the Hesbela attacks on Israel. Well, this is just
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Speaker 4: dreadful for them, and that was in reprisal, by the way,
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Speaker 4: for Hesbela killing twelve children and teenagers in Israel on
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Speaker 4: the weekend. And again this was done with the precision
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Speaker 4: misle missile. So the question now is will these assassinations
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Speaker 4: forces Iran to hit Israel with more missiles that last
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Speaker 4: time he tried it wasn't great. You know, fired about
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Speaker 4: three hundred missiles and drones at Israel after one of
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Speaker 4: his senior military commanders was killed in Beirut about four
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Speaker 4: months ago. Almost all shot down, not one did any harm,
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Speaker 4: humiliating in Israel's counter strike in military sites in Iran
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Speaker 4: that was deadly joining me is Rowan, Dean of the Spectator,
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Speaker 4: Australian host of outsiders on every Sunday at Sky News
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Speaker 4: at nine am.
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Speaker 5: Rowan, this is a.
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Speaker 4: Spectacular success of Israel because it also shows how good
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Speaker 4: its intelligence is to find these GUIs are the capitals
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Speaker 4: of Lebanon and even Iran and kill them. And on
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Speaker 4: the day that runs new presidents inaugurated. But back in Australia,
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Speaker 4: the Prime Minister he's been urging against.
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Speaker 5: Israel, escalating this.
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Speaker 4: If Israel listen to Labor, Israel would keep being victims.
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Speaker 10: One hundred percent, Andrew. And this just goes to show
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Speaker 10: how completely out of touch Albanezi and Penny Wong and
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Speaker 10: the Labor government are and how skewed their priorities are.
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Speaker 10: I guess that's putting it kindly. If you listen to
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Speaker 10: the ABC or the BBC or CNN or any of
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Speaker 10: those outlets, you would be told this evening, Andrew, that
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Speaker 10: this hanaa Ismael Hanie was a moderate, He was the
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Speaker 10: moderate in Hamas. I mean, this is despicable stuff. Hania
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Speaker 10: was an absolute grub of a human being, a vile
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Speaker 10: mass murderer, as you mentioned during the live broadcasting of
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Speaker 10: the Horrors of October seventh. There he was gloating in
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Speaker 10: his Lutch apartment or wherever, a penthouse in Katar, or
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Speaker 10: wherever he was hanging out with his billions of ill
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Speaker 10: gotten dollars siphoned off people like Australian taxpayers and American
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Speaker 10: taxpayers and European taxpayers, gloating about the death, murder, butchery, maiming, rape,
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Speaker 10: beheading of innocent men, women and children, and then getting
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Speaker 10: down on his knees and thanking his God for that. Well,
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Speaker 10: that tells you he's not a moderate to begin with. Secondly,
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Speaker 10: you'll remember Andrew a few weeks or months after that,
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Speaker 10: when Israel began its incursions into Gaza, this grub of
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Speaker 10: a human being, again, from the safety of his guitar lair,
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Speaker 10: his billion dollar layer, wherever he was hiding out, he
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Speaker 10: made this weird and sick, psychopathic speech in which he
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Speaker 10: said that the blood he wanted, more blood of Palestinian children,
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Speaker 10: he wanted more blood of Palestinian women, he wanted more
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Speaker 10: blood of the elderly in Palestine his words, because this
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Speaker 10: would galvanize, I'm paraphrasing, galvanize the movement, This would galvanize
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Speaker 10: the people of Gaza. This guy is a psychopath. Good
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Speaker 10: riddance to him. He's gone, and so have a couple
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Speaker 10: of others along the way. And the critical thing here, Andrew.
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Speaker 10: As you mentioned, this shows the Iranians no one safe
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Speaker 10: in Iran, no one safe. The proxies aren't safe. If
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Speaker 10: Israel wants to take them out. Israel will take them
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Speaker 10: out eventually, one way or another, one by one, and
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Speaker 10: that is the only result to terrorism. The idea of
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Speaker 10: ceasefires is complete garbage from Penny Wong and Albanezi. You
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Speaker 10: take out the villains one by one.
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Speaker 5: Rowin.
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Speaker 4: This also brings us a very closer to victory for them.
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Speaker 4: They wanted to destroy Hamas, they're getting closer to it.
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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what. Meanwhile, Labor keeps funding extremism,
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Speaker 4: including here the Victorian labor government recently gave twenty five
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Speaker 4: thousand dollars in the Strange Palace in the Aviacy network
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Speaker 4: run by extremists behind many of the anti Israel protests.
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Speaker 4: People so extreme that they've just issued this press release
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Speaker 4: Rowan condemning this killing of a mus terrorist leader, saying
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Speaker 4: it's another Israeli war crime. And here's this leader, Melbourne
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Speaker 4: based Nassa Mashni, repeating the message.
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Speaker 11: It just speaks to what we've been saying for a
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Speaker 11: long time that Israel is a rogue genocide or state apartheid.
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Speaker 12: Israel has to cease to exist.
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Speaker 5: Rowan.
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Speaker 4: You will remember Foreign Minister Pennyone posing with this guy,
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Speaker 4: offering him her condolences for deaths in Gaza that were
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Speaker 4: actually caused by terrorist rocket, but it was being blamed
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Speaker 4: on Israel. This is it all about this mob and
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Speaker 4: of labor, that guy's organization get twenty five thousand dollars
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Speaker 4: of taxpayers money.
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Speaker 10: This is the problem here where you have to Unfortunately,
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Speaker 10: you do have to make a choice in Australia and
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Speaker 10: in the West in this horrendous conflict which was not
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Speaker 10: brought about by Israel, which was brought about by the
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Speaker 10: bloke who died today in Tehran and his acolytes, a vile,
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Speaker 10: murderous rampage against not only Jews and Israel, but by
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Speaker 10: extension the West. You've got to ultimately make a choice.
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Speaker 10: And it would appear that Labor, and for pretty base
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Speaker 10: electoral reasons within Western Sydney and I guess the western
22:35
Speaker 10: suburbs of Melbourne as well, chooses to try and curry
22:38
Speaker 10: favor with those who are strong advocates for the Palestinian cause.
22:42
Speaker 10: Now we live in a democracy, that's fine to advocate
22:45
Speaker 10: for whichever cause you want, But the pro Palestinian marches
22:49
Speaker 10: have been noted by a fairly extremist ideology permeating amongst
22:55
Speaker 10: those marches, to the point where certainly in Melbourne and
22:59
Speaker 10: Sydney Jews don't feel safe to be anywhere near those marches,
23:03
Speaker 10: and in fact the police turn Jewish people away from
23:07
Speaker 10: those marches for fear of upsetting or an in way
23:12
Speaker 10: inflaming tensions. So the fact that politicians and I would
23:17
Speaker 10: include the Teals within this, Labor within this, the Greens
23:21
Speaker 10: with this, if they want Australian taxpayers money to be
23:25
Speaker 10: going towards Palestinian pro Palestinian causes, they need to be
23:29
Speaker 10: very very sure where that money is going and how
23:33
Speaker 10: it is being spent. And we know, for example, that
23:35
Speaker 10: there is a law case currently in America where a
23:41
Speaker 10: anoir is being sued, the American arm is being sued
23:44
Speaker 10: for allowing money to go to terrorism, something I've talked
23:48
Speaker 10: about frequently I know you've mentioned as well. So you
23:50
Speaker 10: have to be really careful if Labour are going to
23:52
Speaker 10: go around handing out taxpayers money to these organizations, they
23:55
Speaker 10: have to be accountable for where that money finally ends up.
23:58
Speaker 4: It says it all these guys are getting a dime
24:01
Speaker 4: of our money when they're crying tears over the death
24:04
Speaker 4: of one of the world's worst terrorists, the leaders of
24:08
Speaker 4: worldsworth worst terrorist groups. I just cannot, for the life
24:12
Speaker 4: of me understand Rowan. Deane, thank you so much for
24:14
Speaker 4: your time. Just want to pick up on what Rowan
24:17
Speaker 4: was saying there about this court case in America, the
24:21
Speaker 4: United Nations Relief and Works agencies for so called Palacin refugees.
24:24
Speaker 4: We give twenty million dollars to that, or this government
24:28
Speaker 4: gave twenty million dollars to it, this year's strang government. Now,
24:33
Speaker 4: in fact, this UNRUA has had staff that would for
24:36
Speaker 4: Hamas who joined the November seven massacre, have held Israeli hostages,
24:41
Speaker 4: who've let Hamas use unwar buildings. But now worse, it's
24:45
Speaker 4: being sued by in America by Jews saying it effectively
24:48
Speaker 4: fund from US a billion dollars by paying thirty it's
24:52
Speaker 4: thirteen thousand employees in Gaza. Can you believe that many
24:55
Speaker 4: thirteen thousand in American dollars in a scan that means
24:58
Speaker 4: we are directly funding Hamas too with our donations to
25:03
Speaker 4: UNWA and it works because this they get the American dollars,
25:06
Speaker 4: but in fact to spend it they have to use
25:10
Speaker 4: Israeli shekels.
25:11
Speaker 5: In Gaza, they have to.
25:12
Speaker 4: Go to a money lender, a money changer or the
25:14
Speaker 4: money changes are licensed by Hamas and they charge ten
25:17
Speaker 4: to twenty percent.
25:18
Speaker 5: How much of that ends up in the mass pockets?
25:20
Speaker 5: You do the maths.
25:23
Speaker 4: Your money to Hamas unbelievable. Well after the break, more violence,
25:31
Speaker 4: including from the CFMI union that has been protected by
25:36
Speaker 4: the Albanzi government. Plus is Collinwood really has it really
25:40
Speaker 4: got a racism scandal?
25:42
Speaker 5: We'll check that out.
25:47
Speaker 4: I wonder if Anthony Albanese is looking even more closely
25:51
Speaker 4: now at an early election for safety's sake. Now we've
25:54
Speaker 4: already had Anthony Albanizi reshufflers ministry that was on Sunday
25:58
Speaker 4: to hire a couple of the obvious fails. Immigration Minister
26:02
Speaker 4: Home Affairs Minster and he put fireman like Tony Burke
26:05
Speaker 4: in the hotspots to deflect criticism. Today, this inflation figure
26:12
Speaker 4: that might give albin Easy another reason to go earlier
26:15
Speaker 4: rather than later. Yes, the inflation figure was higher, but
26:19
Speaker 4: not so hard that the Reserve Bank will raise interest
26:21
Speaker 4: rates next week, that's my guess. But after that, as
26:24
Speaker 4: Terry mccran was saying, who knows, the Reserve Bank could
26:29
Speaker 4: actually well, I cut interest rates before Christmas, but it
26:33
Speaker 4: could also either instead raise them raise them if inflation
26:40
Speaker 4: doesn't come down soon, and if it did that I
26:43
Speaker 4: suspect that would kill this government at the election. Join
26:47
Speaker 4: it's the political panel on a Wednesday, Michael Costa for
26:50
Speaker 4: mister Wales's Labor Treasurer, and Cameron Milner, former chief of
26:53
Speaker 4: staff to Labor leader Bill Shorten, now director of GXO Strategies.
26:58
Speaker 4: If you've got a fire you want put out, go
27:00
Speaker 4: to Cameron.
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Speaker 5: Michael.
27:03
Speaker 4: There's definitely a sense to me for this government is
27:06
Speaker 4: getting ready to go early. If there's a good reason to,
27:11
Speaker 4: is the fear of a hike in interest rates before
27:15
Speaker 4: Christmas that reason to go early.
27:19
Speaker 13: I think they should go early, to be honest, to
27:22
Speaker 13: maximize their political advantage. I don't say that as somebody
27:26
Speaker 13: who necessarily wants to see them return with the current
27:29
Speaker 13: set of policies. But let's remember what's happened here. They've
27:32
Speaker 13: put a budget that's basically failed. The only part of
27:35
Speaker 13: that budget that has been relatively successful was the one
27:39
Speaker 13: the Treasurer highlighted today. That is that that inflation figure
27:42
Speaker 13: would have been a half a percent worse if they
27:46
Speaker 13: hadn't have taken those measures. But as we know, the
27:48
Speaker 13: Reserve Bank's going to look through those measures. That's the
27:52
Speaker 13: energy measure and the rental assistance measure I'm talking about.
27:55
Speaker 13: So I think they're in a position where the Reserve Bank,
27:59
Speaker 13: certainly I can't see him cutting interest rates this year.
28:02
Speaker 13: I think they've taken a very timid strategy of trying
28:04
Speaker 13: to drag this out as long as possible. Part of
28:07
Speaker 13: that's due to the fact that the government changed the
28:09
Speaker 13: Reserve Bank's mandate and put employment as a more important
28:14
Speaker 13: consideration that was in the past, and I think that's
28:17
Speaker 13: affected the Reserve Bank and made it a little bit
28:19
Speaker 13: more timid. I think their best option is to go soon.
28:22
Speaker 13: I think the reshuffle points to them thinking about that.
28:25
Speaker 13: I think today's figure was in a sense of relief,
28:28
Speaker 13: it could have been worse, but the underlying figure was
28:31
Speaker 13: only marginally better. I know the Treasurer is running around
28:34
Speaker 13: saying how good it was, but the overall figure was
28:37
Speaker 13: obviously high. So you know, if I was one of
28:39
Speaker 13: their strategists, I'd be saying, as soon as we can
28:41
Speaker 13: get a position where it's to our advantage before the
28:44
Speaker 13: end of the year, I'd be going, because who knows
28:46
Speaker 13: what's going to happen next year. Most of this inflation,
28:49
Speaker 13: let's be clear, is internally driven, and as you said
28:53
Speaker 13: with Terry mccran, there's about forty billion dollars worth of
28:56
Speaker 13: additional spending that's going to come into the system over
28:58
Speaker 13: the next quarter and beyond. So yes, I think I
29:02
Speaker 13: would be planning to go as soon as I could.
29:06
Speaker 4: Well, you've been one of those strategists, Cameron, and Labour's strategist,
29:10
Speaker 4: what would you expect.
29:14
Speaker 14: I think Albo is looking for every excuse to go
29:16
Speaker 14: the poles as quickly as possible because crumbling below him Our,
29:20
Speaker 14: all his primary numbers are crumbling below him is the
29:22
Speaker 14: electoral support around cost of living because people are actually
29:25
Speaker 14: finding it harder and harder. I mean rents are up,
29:27
Speaker 14: petrels up, fresh food and groceries are up. That can
29:30
Speaker 14: only get worse for Labor Andrew. So I think Albow
29:33
Speaker 14: has cleared the decks with the reshuffle and will go
29:35
Speaker 14: to the polls as soon as he possibly can on
29:37
Speaker 14: the thinnest of excuses, because remember this guy took the
29:41
Speaker 14: voice vote from sixty forty in favor to sixty forty
29:44
Speaker 14: against six short months. So he's not a great campaigner,
29:47
Speaker 14: so he'll want to go as quickly as a human
29:48
Speaker 14: he can.
29:49
Speaker 4: Andrew, Well, I suspect that's right, and Cameron I would
29:53
Speaker 4: have said that another problem is still to see if
29:56
Speaker 4: EMAU problemly won't go away. There was a brawl again,
30:00
Speaker 4: this time union is fighting non CEAFMBU workers trying to
30:04
Speaker 4: get to their job on Brisbane's Cross River rail. You know,
30:08
Speaker 4: I don't see much change in behavior from this union.
30:10
Speaker 4: And let us not forget the Albanize government did its
30:14
Speaker 4: best to protect this union, getting the you know, the
30:18
Speaker 4: building industry watchdog off its back in exchange for what
30:22
Speaker 4: was it, nearly two million dollars of donations in election year.
30:28
Speaker 4: This just highlights a continuing problem, an embarrassment.
30:34
Speaker 14: Well, I think you know, as a unionist, I respect
30:37
Speaker 14: the fact that you can have picket lines.
30:38
Speaker 5: I can respect that you have protected action.
30:40
Speaker 14: What you can't, though, is have a protection racket for
30:42
Speaker 14: violent criminals or members of the biking gangs. So I
30:45
Speaker 14: actually applaud Alberties for actually intervening or be it too
30:48
Speaker 14: late I think in this respect, But no unions, especially
30:51
Speaker 14: the construction sector have got a tough, hard industry, but
30:54
Speaker 14: there's no place for criminals, and there's no place for bikes,
30:57
Speaker 14: and there's no place for brawls.
30:58
Speaker 5: Quite frankly on picket lines.
31:01
Speaker 4: Now talking about the CFMA union, Tony Burke was the
31:05
Speaker 4: Industrial Relations of minister who oversaw handing, you know, giving
31:09
Speaker 4: the CFMAU that protection has now moved to be immigration Misster,
31:13
Speaker 4: the Home Affairs mister, four portfolios and all. There's a
31:16
Speaker 4: lot of talk, Michael. I don't know if I buy
31:19
Speaker 4: it to be honest that he's going to suddenly now
31:22
Speaker 4: there's immigration misster, Home Affairs is going to suddenly leading
31:25
Speaker 4: more boats and even more Palatini refugees from Gaza, where
31:30
Speaker 4: most people say the support Hamas. It's true that we
31:33
Speaker 4: read today the Islamic groups are wanting him to do
31:36
Speaker 4: exactly that now. And it's also true that his Sydney
31:40
Speaker 4: seat of Watson is twenty five percent Muslim. That's a
31:43
Speaker 4: hell of an incentive. But isn't it true this guy,
31:47
Speaker 4: this guy is pretty tough, and I would think that
31:50
Speaker 4: he knows that more boats, more Palatini refugees could hurt
31:54
Speaker 4: this government and hurt his ambition to be prime minister himself.
31:58
Speaker 13: What do you reckon, Well, I absolutely agree with that.
32:01
Speaker 13: I think that the Breezon alberaneze is putting him in.
32:03
Speaker 13: He's got an early election and he wants to host
32:05
Speaker 13: down any boats coming in. It's a political strategy, not
32:09
Speaker 13: an immigration strategy, and I can't see them doing anything
32:14
Speaker 13: to upset the boat on that. If we start getting boats,
32:17
Speaker 13: they've lost. You know, I expect them to get minority government.
32:21
Speaker 13: But that's the one circumstance that I would say would
32:24
Speaker 13: tip it in favor of Donte completely if there was
32:26
Speaker 13: boats coming in. In relation to those Hamas, Sorry I
32:32
Speaker 13: was going to say, in relation to the Muslim pressure
32:35
Speaker 13: on him, I think that Senator Fatma has actually helped
32:39
Speaker 13: them on that, because you know, the last thing they
32:42
Speaker 13: would do in the face of threats of a Muslim
32:44
Speaker 13: party is actually start to put more people in that
32:47
Speaker 13: are likely to support that particular view. So I can't
32:51
Speaker 13: see any change in that area. I think they're ready
32:53
Speaker 13: for an election and they know what they've got to
32:55
Speaker 13: do to achieve that outcome.
32:57
Speaker 4: In this area, of course, while I make a difference
33:01
Speaker 4: if I can.
33:03
Speaker 5: Go ahead.
33:05
Speaker 4: Oh look, I.
33:06
Speaker 14: Think Tony Burke's deeply compromised. I mean he's been weak
33:09
Speaker 14: on Imam's preaching. G Hardy's own electorate. He's been weak
33:12
Speaker 14: on hate preachers. When the bishop in the neighboring electric
33:14
Speaker 14: got stabbed, he was silent. This guy's got form in
33:17
Speaker 14: terms of being weak on Muslim extremism. And I'm desperately
33:20
Speaker 14: worried as the Immigration Minister that he'll let Palestinians in
33:25
Speaker 14: after this guy's cars a conflict without the right security checks.
33:28
Speaker 14: Let him ask people in, let g hard Is in
33:31
Speaker 14: and leave live in Western Sydney Again. I'm deeply worried
33:34
Speaker 14: that Tony Burke is absolutely compromised as the Mister of
33:37
Speaker 14: Immigration and as the mist of Home Affairs. He won't
33:40
Speaker 14: speak out about Islamic extremism the way we need him to,
33:43
Speaker 14: and he won't have an honest conversation because he's under
33:45
Speaker 14: massive pressure on his own local electorate to hold on
33:47
Speaker 14: to Watson. So I think he's deeply compromised, But he's
33:51
Speaker 14: not stupid.
33:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cameron, I agree with you that I don't think
33:53
Speaker 4: you're going to hear much from him on condemning. But
33:56
Speaker 4: that's no change at all. But in terms of living
33:58
Speaker 4: in boats, living in lots more refugees from Gaza before
34:03
Speaker 4: the election, I can't see that happening after the election.
34:07
Speaker 4: I think you were hitting a home run on that.
34:09
Speaker 4: I think changes. We've seen how labour changes before and after.
34:14
Speaker 4: Cameron Milner, Michael Cossa, thank you both for your time.
34:19
Speaker 4: Just going to say something though, I was going to
34:21
Speaker 4: ask Cameron, but we're out of time. But as a
34:25
Speaker 4: former board member of the Brisbane Lines Collinwood, this new
34:29
Speaker 4: racism scandal so called because his chief executive, Craig Kelly
34:34
Speaker 4: told the clubs then head of First Nation Strategy, Mark Cleaver,
34:37
Speaker 4: this is allegedly this guy, this Mark Cleaver, who identifies
34:41
Speaker 4: as gay, no binary and Aboriginal, to create a cultural
34:44
Speaker 4: room quick smart.
34:46
Speaker 5: And the story goes, so this is what Clever says.
34:49
Speaker 4: Clever said, oh, well, look if I have to do that,
34:51
Speaker 4: and I've got to go through all these cultural artifacts first,
34:54
Speaker 4: and Kelly allegedly picked up a mardgrook, which is both
34:57
Speaker 4: supposedly made of possum hair used by Aboriginies to play
35:01
Speaker 4: the original football if you believe all that. I said,
35:03
Speaker 4: I don't give an f what you put in there.
35:05
Speaker 4: Put this shi t in there, threw it at Cleaver
35:09
Speaker 4: and then said, I don't give an f if you
35:11
Speaker 4: put a live effing possum in there, Just get the
35:13
Speaker 4: Columnood President Indigenous Vice president off my back side. Now,
35:18
Speaker 4: these are all untested allegations. With Clever, it's claiming unfair dismissal.
35:22
Speaker 4: Colin was sticking with Kelly says Cleveland was actually sacked
35:24
Speaker 4: for unrelated reasons. It said, cass asparagus at is personal behavior.
35:33
Speaker 4: But I won't repeat that here in case I'm not protected.
35:37
Speaker 4: But do comments like that really sound like racism or
35:41
Speaker 4: just rudeness? Get this thing in this cultural room. I
35:44
Speaker 4: think it is so important for us now to start
35:47
Speaker 4: distinguishing about being rude to someone who happens to be Aboriginal,
35:53
Speaker 4: and rude to someone because they are Aboriginal that would
35:56
Speaker 4: be that would be racist. But the first one give
36:01
Speaker 4: us a break, get off the grass. That's it for
36:05
Speaker 4: me for this break. But after the break, hang on
36:08
Speaker 4: because we have got the media left's protection racket. The
36:13
Speaker 4: Journalist's Union is going after Ida. Butrose are pointing out
36:17
Speaker 4: a secret. Supposedly, you won't believe this?
36:20
Speaker 5: Do you know the ABC is biased? The Journalists Union?
36:30
Speaker 5: What a joke? You know.
36:31
Speaker 4: I've been physically attacked, I've been sued, sensored, abuse vilified,
36:35
Speaker 4: had a mob shut down a book launch.
36:38
Speaker 5: I've had death threat so bad that one man was jailed.
36:41
Speaker 4: And and all that time, not once to the Journalists Union,
36:44
Speaker 4: THEAA say a word in my defense. Not once did
36:48
Speaker 4: it defend my free speech. But all hell broke loose
36:52
Speaker 4: when Ida Butro's former chairman of the ABC dared to
36:54
Speaker 4: finally admit on the ABC that, yeah, it was biased.
36:59
Speaker 3: Do you think the ABC is delivering.
37:03
Speaker 7: With regards to objectivity and impartiality?
37:06
Speaker 15: I think there is an unconscious bias, and I think
37:09
Speaker 15: it's I think there's no harm in presenting both sides
37:13
Speaker 15: of an argument, and I don't understand the reluctance of
37:17
Speaker 15: some of our interviewers not to do that.
37:20
Speaker 4: Now that crofts the union's very red line, it issued
37:25
Speaker 4: this thundering statement o the Butters, there's no relevant role
37:27
Speaker 4: of the ABC any longer, and her comments are in
37:29
Speaker 4: something to journalsis strive for accuracy and impartiality as required
37:34
Speaker 4: the MEA double a code of ethics every day. Seriously, now,
37:38
Speaker 4: if you want evidence of the media industry's bias, there
37:41
Speaker 4: it is joining me on newswatchers. Sophie Ellsworth, media writer
37:45
Speaker 4: for The Australian. Sophie Elsworth, thank you for your time.
37:50
Speaker 4: Why did the Journalist Union think it's its job to
37:53
Speaker 4: defend ABC journals from criticism of bias from a former
37:57
Speaker 4: boss who'd actually know.
38:02
Speaker 11: Well Andrew?
38:03
Speaker 16: This is really quite bizarre that the meublea hit out
38:07
Speaker 16: at Ite Buttrose, considering the Ite Buttros has been in
38:11
Speaker 16: the media industry for more than five decades and I'm
38:15
Speaker 16: pretty sure she knows what she's talking about. She was
38:17
Speaker 16: the chair of the ABC up until March this year.
38:22
Speaker 16: But it's obviously upset them at the union. They don't
38:25
Speaker 16: like criticism and they've lashed out at her, which I
38:29
Speaker 16: thought was a really bad strategy, considering she is well
38:33
Speaker 16: respected in the media industry and beyond.
38:36
Speaker 4: I don't understand by it's a union business to protect
38:39
Speaker 4: the left wing bar so really I don't know. Can
38:42
Speaker 4: see why they might want it to be the business,
38:44
Speaker 4: but it isn't their business. But you know, we've seen
38:47
Speaker 4: the same sort of rallying of the left for the left,
38:51
Speaker 4: in this case, for the journalists of the nine NewSpace
38:53
Speaker 4: like the Agescity Morning Herol. We're out on a five
38:55
Speaker 4: days strike this weekend, this week for more money, just
38:59
Speaker 4: when the company to cut jobs. Mind you, here's just
39:02
Speaker 4: some of the lefteris who think that nine should actually
39:05
Speaker 4: pay more in wages, much more than they seem to
39:09
Speaker 4: be able to afford.
39:10
Speaker 5: Here they are. Don't touch journalism.
39:13
Speaker 10: Don't touch journalism.
39:15
Speaker 13: Don't torch journalism.
39:17
Speaker 12: I support proper journalism.
39:19
Speaker 5: Please, don't torture.
39:22
Speaker 12: Don't torch journalism. Journalism is a journalism without journalists.
39:27
Speaker 13: Don't touch journalism.
39:29
Speaker 12: This is rosy batty.
39:30
Speaker 16: We need journalists now as much as we have ever done.
39:34
Speaker 12: Don't touch journalism. Don't torch journalism.
39:37
Speaker 4: Do not torch journalism, Sophie Ellsworth, do you think these
39:43
Speaker 4: leftists would ever go on a little campaign video demanding
39:47
Speaker 4: that Sky News journalists be paid more, or journalists in
39:50
Speaker 4: Australian be paid more, or any Murdock journalists anywhere be
39:54
Speaker 4: paid more?
39:57
Speaker 16: Well, look, Andrew, they probably wouldn't add. The Age and
40:01
Speaker 16: the Sydney Morning Herald are a very unionized workforce. So
40:05
Speaker 16: they walked off the job. With a ten and a
40:07
Speaker 16: half percent offer over three years by management. They did
40:12
Speaker 16: want up to twenty percent, mind you, when these negotiations started. Now,
40:17
Speaker 16: just this evening, I've been told they were offered eleven
40:21
Speaker 16: and a half percent over this three year period. So
40:24
Speaker 16: they've effectively taken five days off work, down their tools
40:29
Speaker 16: and come back and had negotiations and received an extra
40:33
Speaker 16: one percent. So I think, Andrew, there would be many
40:36
Speaker 16: people questioning was it worth all this grief that they
40:40
Speaker 16: caused the company to take five days off work and
40:44
Speaker 16: score themselves an extra one percent. So they've achieved that
40:48
Speaker 16: eleven and a half percent, but it's well off the
40:50
Speaker 16: twenty percent that they did want over that three year duration.
40:55
Speaker 4: And that one percent increases spread over three years. So
40:59
Speaker 4: I don't know. While, of course, Sophia, that have caused
41:02
Speaker 4: enormous damage to their newspapers because they struck quite deliberately
41:07
Speaker 4: in the first week of the Olympics coverage. So what
41:10
Speaker 4: has cost the company in terms of lost sales and
41:13
Speaker 4: lost advertising. I do not know. So I think it's
41:17
Speaker 4: just not a great look for anyone there. Sophie Elsworth,
41:21
Speaker 4: thank you so much indeed for your time.
41:23
Speaker 16: Thank you, Andrew.
41:26
Speaker 4: After the break disaster for staff at Rex Airlines, a
41:29
Speaker 4: third could lose their jobs and Adelaide named the world's
41:32
Speaker 4: most beautiful city Atelae. Terrible news for the staff of
41:41
Speaker 4: Rex Airlines and for the people in the country centers
41:44
Speaker 4: they fly to. Last night, Rex Wings do voluntary administration.
41:48
Speaker 4: Ready we're told there's no money to pay the staff
41:51
Speaker 4: and three hundred and fifty of those two thousand ready
41:53
Speaker 4: we stood down. Six hundred and ten may have to
41:57
Speaker 4: go eventually. Joining me are two Queensland politicians of a
42:00
Speaker 4: Liberal MP, Garth Hamilton and Robbie Katter, head of Kata's
42:03
Speaker 4: Australia Party, originally founded by his father Bob, the federal
42:06
Speaker 4: MP Garth the collapse of Rex. How big is this
42:10
Speaker 4: for the country.
42:13
Speaker 2: Look, there's a big hit for regional Queensland in particular.
42:17
Speaker 2: Look I bought the Economics Committee up to TORM, but
42:19
Speaker 2: not that long ago. We had both Bonsa and Rex
42:22
Speaker 2: present evidence. They're talking about the big challenge they face
42:25
Speaker 2: and what was the number one thing that would wipe
42:26
Speaker 2: them out. It was slots into Sydney Airport. Both of
42:29
Speaker 2: them agreed on that, very very strongly. The evidence they
42:31
Speaker 2: showed Andrew was that they felt very strongly that Quantus
42:35
Speaker 2: was making it difficult for them.
42:36
Speaker 5: To get those slots.
42:38
Speaker 2: Look, if that's the case, I think we really need
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Speaker 2: to review how those slot management systems are managed in Australia.
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Speaker 5: I think that might be the case. Robbie, what do
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Speaker 5: you make of all this?
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Speaker 11: Well, they're two different parts of the issue. The regional
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Speaker 11: part which I'm very much engrossed, where they have a dominance.
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Speaker 11: They're a dominant player in regional Australia, and they're not
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Speaker 11: the dominant you know, they're the minor player there in
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Speaker 11: the metropolitan areas. But they basically they don't have the
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Speaker 11: right aircraft to perform in these northern heat hot conditions and.
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Speaker 12: Perform as well in other areas.
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Speaker 11: And that that can be a problem moving forward for
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Speaker 11: their sustainability.
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Speaker 12: And so that's a problem for them moving forward here.
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Speaker 11: I mean it's we're in the situation now in these
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Speaker 11: remote areas where we've become critically reliant, almost completely reliant
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Speaker 11: on connectivity to health, education, consultancy services, to councils, all
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Speaker 11: those sorts of things through airlines.
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Speaker 12: So we need something operating there. But you know, we
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Speaker 12: sort of need.
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Speaker 11: More competitives and there's a lot of participants in the market,
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Speaker 11: but they've had a dominant position in the regional market
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Speaker 11: to a point now where it's left us quite vulnerable.
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Speaker 11: And it would be good to see other participants in
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Speaker 11: the market with more aircraft that's more fit for purpose
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Speaker 11: in these hot conditions.
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Speaker 12: Up here in the North.
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Speaker 4: Well, good luck in this current and the economic environment
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Speaker 4: for that though, Garf, they want to tackle a favorite
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Speaker 4: topic of yours before I get to a favorite for Robbie.
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Speaker 4: Simon Holmes, A Court is a mega rich global warming
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Speaker 4: activists to help fund the Teal independence took seats from
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Speaker 4: the Liberals. He last month posted a tweet attacking Engineers
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Speaker 4: Australia hosting an event that included a speech by an
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Speaker 4: engineer from Nuclear for Climate Australia's a pro nuclear engineer
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Speaker 4: homes are Court complain this would supposedly muddy the waters.
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Speaker 4: I don't get that, and Engineers Australia, to its shame,
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Speaker 4: cancel the speech. But GARF, good news today, tell us
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Speaker 4: what it is.
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Speaker 2: What's great news today because Simon Holmes, the Court has
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Speaker 2: been schooled by engineers across Australia. Engineers Australia, the body
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Speaker 2: The corporate body does live in shame after its ridiculous
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Speaker 2: decision to give in.
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Speaker 5: To Simon Holmes. The Court's of all things.
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Speaker 2: You know, he's got to confuse this spoke the idea
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Speaker 2: that spending daddy's money is somehow equivalent to scientific debate.
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Speaker 2: I'm a very proud engineer, was a former member of
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Speaker 2: Engineers Australia. I thought it was an important thing to
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Speaker 2: be able to discuss anything in the engineering field. Sadly
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Speaker 2: we see from the teals they're choosing to be Labour's
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Speaker 2: voice and they're just trying to kill off any debate
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Speaker 2: about nuclear energy. I'm glad that we're seeing this is.
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Speaker 2: This is the people, this is the engineers on the
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Speaker 2: ground have complained to the body and said, no, we
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Speaker 2: won't be we won't be silenced. You won't tell us
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Speaker 2: what we can think. It doesn't matter you know how
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Speaker 2: popular this thing is with a certain section of politicians.
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: This is engineering and we can discuss things, and there
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Speaker 2: is no place people like Simon Homes the Court throwing
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Speaker 2: their money around.
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Speaker 4: Anything with science involved that doesn't involve debate. Then you're
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Speaker 4: really really in trouble. And the high they had to
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Speaker 4: say I know the speakers sick instead of saying we're
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Speaker 4: given in the boot now, Robbie. But your particular beef
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Speaker 4: as a very unusual policy that you want your taking
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Speaker 4: it into sad election. You want to split Queensland in half,
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Speaker 4: essentially create another state.
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Speaker 5: Why is that.
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Speaker 12: That's it? Well, there's a great many Wis Andrew.
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Speaker 11: I think probably the best wise that you don't get
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Speaker 11: policy fit for purpose from two thousand kilometers away, that
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Speaker 11: people that are completely indifferent to the cultural values of
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Speaker 11: people up here. And we often get criticized as I
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Speaker 11: had it once said to me from an ABC journalist
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Speaker 11: in Melbourne, wouldn't we compromise the environmental and indigenous values
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Speaker 11: if we gave you your own state? And I think
46:47
Speaker 11: that's the condescension that reigns over us from Brisbane, our
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Speaker 11: governing centers, that stifles us and we are completely undeveloped
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Speaker 11: up here. That landscape behind you that has six hundred
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Speaker 11: and fifty billion dollars worth of men that it's not
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Speaker 11: going to come out of the ground if it's not
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Speaker 11: managed with the right policy. And you can't make policy
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Speaker 11: fit for purpose from two thousand kilometers away.
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Speaker 12: A bit further up the road. We got the Flinders River.
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Speaker 11: That's about four million megal eaters a year of water
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Speaker 11: that runs out to the sea. Now, if we gave
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Speaker 11: some of that water to let's even just say fifty
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Speaker 11: farmers out up alongside that river, if we gave water
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Speaker 11: that runs out the sea at the moment, there's no
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Speaker 11: dams in it.
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Speaker 12: We just gave them access to the water. You could
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Speaker 12: look to another hundred million.
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Speaker 11: Dollars in taxes for the peat citizens of Australia.
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Speaker 12: So people in Melbourne and say what we can get
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Speaker 12: out next?
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Speaker 11: One hundred million dollars in taxis and just giving the
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Speaker 11: water that flows out the sea for free.
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Speaker 12: But that's impossible to.
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Speaker 11: Do because you know, the Wagi grains that don't want
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Speaker 11: any more people on the planet or any more development
47:43
Speaker 11: will constrain that.
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Speaker 12: And that's frustrating for people live out here.
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Speaker 11: The population projection from my electric is point minus point
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Speaker 11: nine percent. When everyone else has these increasing populations, we're
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Speaker 11: finding survival.
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Speaker 5: Now, Gartha, that's not going to happen.
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Speaker 4: The rest Australia won't allow this kind of thing, I guess,
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Speaker 4: but it does just draw attention to a picture the
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Speaker 4: problem that we've got a city elite that says no
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Speaker 4: to stuff that would really suit the country. But just
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Speaker 4: a bit, just before I go, I've got to say
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Speaker 4: curious decision. International design magazine Architectural Digest is named Adelaide
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Speaker 4: the world's most beautiful city. I'm from Adelaide, but I've
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Speaker 4: got to say I'm a little surprised. Just quick, one
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Speaker 4: word from you, Garth, what's your favorite city? Most beautiful
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Speaker 4: city to Woomba. Of course, I'm not going to bother
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Speaker 4: asking Robbie. I think Robbie you'll say the same sort
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Speaker 4: of thing. Good luck to you both, Garth Hamilton, Robbie Katta,
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Speaker 4: thank you very.
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Speaker 5: Much, really appreciate it. That's it from me.
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Speaker 4: Coming up now, Sharry Markson with a special interview with
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Speaker 4: Peter Dutton.