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CORY MARKS Makes No Apologies For His Blending Of Country Music And Metal · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Nobody news.
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  Speaker 2: Well line, he's a good and let me see you. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: what's up Australia. This is Corey Marx and I've got
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  Speaker 2: a brand new album out called Sorry for Nothing, Volume two.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic, curently good to speak with you again, brother.
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  Speaker 2: You too, my friend.
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  Speaker 3: As you mentioned, eu releasia fourth album, Sorry for Nothing,
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  Speaker 3: Volume Two on October three, which is this Friday. So
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  Speaker 3: how does that field finally have it out there in
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  Speaker 3: the public domain.
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  Speaker 2: Well, uh, you know, it's crazy to think that this
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  Speaker 2: is my second album in less than well in ten months,
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  Speaker 2: exactly because Volume one came out in December twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: So I wrote so much, so many songs and so
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  Speaker 2: much music, you know, during the COVID periods into twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty three and early twenty twenty four. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: this is all all music that I love. I'm very
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  Speaker 2: proud of and excited to finally have out out into
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  Speaker 2: the world. So I'm I'm, I'm excited, and uh, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a perfect blend of country rock and hard rock.
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  Speaker 2: Once again, just you know, me doing my thing and
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  Speaker 2: hoping the world loves it when it comes out.
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  Speaker 1: No, I say, what'd you say?
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  Speaker 3: It's a vastly different based to volume one, or is
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  Speaker 3: it more of a continue I said to sign, I.
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  Speaker 2: Would say it's it's a continuation, you know. I think
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  Speaker 2: there's some really great country stuff on there.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Again, uh might be a biased opinion, of course, but uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but there's some some some heavier stuff like
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  Speaker 2: like what you've heard so far already, like Hangman and
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  Speaker 2: are You with Me? And there's some there's some different
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  Speaker 2: stuff on there too that I think a song like
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  Speaker 2: someone I Hate, which you know you you hear, you
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  Speaker 2: even hear some some some metal screams uh in there,
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  Speaker 2: maybe channeling my phil and Selmour or my Chester a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, which which is different for me on the record,
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  Speaker 2: and even that style of song. But nonetheless always always,
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  Speaker 2: you know, always looking to grow and and do better.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, just another you know, eleven songs that I'm
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  Speaker 2: really excited about.
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  Speaker 3: No, And you mentioned the singles I so far you've
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  Speaker 3: released Are You with Me and Hangman and on Friday
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  Speaker 3: you be released in Whiskey River as well. So these
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  Speaker 3: songs a good, stunny representation of what do you expect?
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  Speaker 3: Or is there some other things to discover?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty uh I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: pretty good idea of what to expect, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: are you with me? Is? You know, it's got some country,
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  Speaker 2: got some rock elements, but of course Hangman is pretty
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  Speaker 2: straightforward rock and Whiskey River, you know, is just channeling
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  Speaker 2: the music that I grew up on and maybe of
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  Speaker 2: course channing a little channeling a little bit of my
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  Speaker 2: my good friend Travis Tritt uh in there and with
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  Speaker 2: with a nineties you know, a nineties country footstopping sound.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned this song before, bro, But my favorite on
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  Speaker 3: the whole album is someone I Hate Like it.
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  Speaker 1: It's an absolute cracker. Like to tell us more about
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  Speaker 1: that one? And then where come from?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? That one? That one I wrote with with a
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  Speaker 2: few friends in Nashville. You know it was I think
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of like a random right and set
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  Speaker 2: up and you know it's it's it's it's funny because
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  Speaker 2: the way the way I wanted to angle it too
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  Speaker 2: is you know, it sounds like you know about in
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  Speaker 2: a way like, uh, you make me into someone I hate.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds you know lyrically too, like if it's just
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  Speaker 2: the story behind it, what I try to do, is
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  Speaker 2: it kind of sounds like it's about a girl or
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  Speaker 2: or you know, you know, a relationship gone bad, but uh,
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  Speaker 2: in reality, I kind of referenced it towards you know,
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  Speaker 2: the music industry and uh, you know, just some of
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  Speaker 2: the some of the definitely the lows that that feel
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  Speaker 2: like highs at times. It can you know, leave you
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  Speaker 2: and leave you in these you know, certain spots and
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  Speaker 2: and and like the title says, sometimes you know it
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  Speaker 2: could leave you feeling like someone you hate or someone
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  Speaker 2: I hate. And so we tried to reference that, but
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  Speaker 2: in terms of a you know, a relationship kind of
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  Speaker 2: falling apart tech story or or let's just say in
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  Speaker 2: my case that the girl you can't you can't team rather.
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  Speaker 1: I know that story all well, brother.
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  Speaker 3: Now, but I don't know if you're going to be
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  Speaker 3: releasing that as a single, mate, but if were you,
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  Speaker 3: I'd be pushing for that one to go because the
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  Speaker 3: sort of more metal heads like myself will definitely relate
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  Speaker 3: to that song.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, it's it's definitely there's a few
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  Speaker 2: songs on this album that you know, I definitely think
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  Speaker 2: our single worthy, just like Volume one. So you know, well,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see what happens and hopefully Whiskey River gets a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of love. And you know we could we could
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  Speaker 2: keep popping these singles out from the from the album
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  Speaker 2: It's now.
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  Speaker 3: On volume one you had guest artists such as Saliana,
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  Speaker 3: there was Travis Tree and micmarg and d l from
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  Speaker 3: band Wolves. But from what I can see, Volume two
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  Speaker 3: hasn't got any guest artists on it. Like why decided
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  Speaker 3: to put all of them on volume one and not
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  Speaker 3: spread them out over bath?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think Volley one, you know, we you know it,
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  Speaker 2: it was its own, it was its own thing, and
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  Speaker 2: you know we really wanted to, uh you know, have
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  Speaker 2: have a response to outlaws and outsiders. And I think
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  Speaker 2: make My Country Rock was just that, of course having
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  Speaker 2: like you said, uh my friends Mick mars And and
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  Speaker 2: Travis Tritt on it, but adding a new voice and
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  Speaker 2: another another beast, another great uh Solly Earn of godsmack
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  Speaker 2: and uh you know I received my you know, my
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  Speaker 2: third top twenty at US Rock Radio with that one.
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  Speaker 2: So that was, you know, that was that you know,
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  Speaker 2: moved the lead need a little bit and really proud
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  Speaker 2: about that. And in this record, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I want to do something different. I haven't released the
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  Speaker 2: record yet with with with no features and uh, there
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  Speaker 2: are some some guitar players on some of the country stuff,
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  Speaker 2: friends of mine that that are on it, that that
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  Speaker 2: are playing on it, but uh, no actual features, vocal
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  Speaker 2: features like in the previous album. So I kind of
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  Speaker 2: wanted to I kind of wanted to have its own
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  Speaker 2: voice and that being me for for this one. And
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  Speaker 2: uh and I guess going back to the title and
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  Speaker 2: Sorry for Nothing good.
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  Speaker 3: I'm guessing they were both recorded at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: So how did you actually decide what what to put
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  Speaker 3: on what volume? Like were you going for balance over
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  Speaker 3: the two or we What was your process?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in a way, like because we initially, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Sorry for Nothing was those that first batch of songs
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  Speaker 2: that I that I really wanted out, that I really
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  Speaker 2: wanted the world to hear, and I knew make my
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  Speaker 2: country rock was definitely, like I said, the answer to
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  Speaker 2: Outlaws and Outsider, so that had to be on there.
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  Speaker 2: And Sorry for Nothing, I mean, it's the title track,
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  Speaker 2: and it's one of my favorites, you know, one of
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  Speaker 2: my favorite songs that I've ever written, because it's so
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  Speaker 2: personal and kind of you know, right up, right up
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  Speaker 2: my alley and Lane. So and what I like to
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  Speaker 2: do is with my albums, I really like to curate
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  Speaker 2: them in a sense of like, okay, well if we
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  Speaker 2: have if I'm doing eleven songs, I think of it, Okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: how would I do this in a live show? Right?
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  Speaker 2: I've always made my records that way, even if you
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  Speaker 2: look back at going back to Who I Am and
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  Speaker 2: even my very first record, This Man here in Canada,
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  Speaker 2: it's always been like I've always tried to place it
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  Speaker 2: where you know, I take the I take the listener
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  Speaker 2: along for a ride, and hopefully ride they're going to
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  Speaker 2: want to you know, you know, enjoy over and over again.
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  Speaker 2: I want to want to get back in line for it.
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  Speaker 2: So really it was just processing the first record, which
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  Speaker 2: is obviously Volume one, putting that that live field order
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  Speaker 2: to it with with with those songs, and then this one.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the last year I've been actually you know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we end with Outlaws and Outsiders right the
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  Speaker 2: big bang. But when there's time left or they asked
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  Speaker 2: for an encore, you know, you know, especially in Europe,
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  Speaker 2: it was such a you know, just such a cool thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'd actually go out there with just me the guitar
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  Speaker 2: and the fans, and I would I would play Sorry
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  Speaker 2: for Nothing acoustic, which is how we end this album
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  Speaker 2: Volume two.
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  Speaker 3: Nice and I've got to say, Bry like I love
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  Speaker 3: the chartle sorry for Nothing, like nobody could ever accuse
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  Speaker 3: you of sitting on the fantasy playing it how you
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  Speaker 3: feel and as Superla, well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I I you know, I mean this, I
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  Speaker 2: mean that with with with you know, with all the
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  Speaker 2: love in the world, you know, I just I, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like like Marl Haggard would say, I am what I am,
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  Speaker 2: and I love what I love. I mean, I love rock,
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  Speaker 2: I love country, I love metal, and I wanted to create,
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  Speaker 2: you know, almost I guess creator genre or a sound
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  Speaker 2: that that not only mixes the boats, but allows me
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  Speaker 2: as an artist to play country music, to play rock,
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  Speaker 2: and to you know, and to headbang a little bit too,
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  Speaker 2: because as a drummer, you know, I missed those days.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why in the live show, you know, typically
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  Speaker 2: if we have at least seventy five minutes or it's
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  Speaker 2: a headline slot, you know, the crowd gets to see
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  Speaker 2: a drum solo too, which has been a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's it's quite the Uh. I think for the
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  Speaker 2: most part, unless people have been to a show before
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  Speaker 2: or know me as a drummer, it's kind of like,
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  Speaker 2: what's he doing back there? And then we start and
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  Speaker 2: it's just like, it's it's so much fun. My drummer
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  Speaker 2: goes nuts. It's like, it's so awesome, man, you just
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  Speaker 2: go nuts, and it's so cool to see because you
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  Speaker 2: do this ballad stuff. You just do. You you're sol
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  Speaker 2: acoustic halfway through a show and then you just get
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  Speaker 2: back on the kit and then boom, we're firing things
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  Speaker 2: back up again. So it's it's a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, the show is a it's I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a it's a fun roller coaster, fun roller coaster. Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: This is a second album of yours that I've spikeing
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  Speaker 3: with you about and it still blows me away. Might
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  Speaker 3: how you blend the rock in the country and lashington
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  Speaker 3: metal and make it sound so damn good Like normally
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  Speaker 3: I run for the hills as soon as someone mentions
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  Speaker 3: the word country music, but I got you.
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  Speaker 1: I can't help but enjoy your music. It's it's something
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  Speaker 1: in there.
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  Speaker 2: I I appreciate it, man, And uh, you know, when
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  Speaker 2: you're listening to it, I'm just so glad you're not
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  Speaker 2: saying run to run, boil alive. But know it's uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of been my objective in a way.
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  Speaker 2: And of course it's you know, industry standard. And I've
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  Speaker 2: been saying this a lot lately, but you know, sure
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  Speaker 2: I might have made things harder on myself in that sense,
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  Speaker 2: you know, being accepted or playing by the rules or
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  Speaker 2: sticking to the box in the box, but you know, ultimately,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's our job as artists to you know,
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  Speaker 2: the names in the world. You know, art, create art,
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  Speaker 2: and create what you want to do, what you want
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  Speaker 2: to say and how you want to say it, and
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  Speaker 2: most of all connect with fans. And in my case,
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  Speaker 2: whether they're country, their rock or metal, you know, there's
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  Speaker 2: there's some sort of edge, if not all of it,
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  Speaker 2: uh in there for them that they're gonna be like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I like this shit, and I want
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  Speaker 2: to go to the concerts and I want to I
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  Speaker 2: want to listen to the album. You know, before we're
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  Speaker 2: going to the bar, we're putting out some Corey marks.
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  Speaker 2: Before we make love. We're gonna you know, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: listen to Corey Marx hopefully or before we have a
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  Speaker 2: light of cigar and sit down and drink whiskey and wine.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna listen to some Corey mark So
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  Speaker 2: that's you know that I try to write, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I try to write and create from you know, the
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  Speaker 2: the again this I use the reference roller coaster, but
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  Speaker 2: this roller coaster life, man, where you know, you have
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  Speaker 2: your upscure downs, and you're in betweens and I think
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  Speaker 2: there's a there's a song. There's a song in there
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  Speaker 2: for any or all of that.
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  Speaker 1: It's got to be pretty cool.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes from on stage, are you looking out because metal heads,
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  Speaker 3: country people and rockers they all dress differently.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they got a different style about it. So
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  Speaker 1: you're looking out.
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  Speaker 3: There and do they sort of pull little pockets? Do
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  Speaker 3: you country want to stick together and cut out?
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  Speaker 2: I usually could tell the metal heads, especially in a
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  Speaker 2: live show, and when Cowboys from Hell kind of starts
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  Speaker 2: kicking off, or at the end of the solo, I
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  Speaker 2: end my solo at this you know, crazy drum thing,
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  Speaker 2: and then I just stop and count us back in
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  Speaker 2: and we go into late of late to Rest by
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  Speaker 2: Lamb of God and whenever we're doing that, or of
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  Speaker 2: course the intro that to blame it on the double.
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  Speaker 2: You got all the metal heads hanging on the bars going,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, all right, they go to metal, they go
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  Speaker 2: to metal conte or the country people. I find a
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  Speaker 2: lot of them were just kind of like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: more subtle, but they got the horns up, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and some of them might just throw their cowboy hat off.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: You grew up on musicians from Metal Haggett all the
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  Speaker 3: way through at Ausiello's Bawn. But do you remember the
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  Speaker 3: moment when you actually sat and thought, like, I've could
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  Speaker 3: mix these guys together and come.
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  Speaker 2: Up with I do I remember the exact moment. I
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  Speaker 2: was driving with my dad to Toronto, and I was
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  Speaker 2: very early on in my career, and and you know,
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  Speaker 2: going to Nashville writing for a week or two and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember, fresh out of high school, my favorite
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  Speaker 2: album for for a number of years, and for a
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  Speaker 2: number of reasons, it was Black Rain by Ozzy Osbourne,
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  Speaker 2: and just because there was some of those songs like
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  Speaker 2: you know, you just want to like rage and it
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  Speaker 2: was rocking, but there's such beautiful ballads on there too.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought, okay, well, you know, obviously I can't
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  Speaker 2: sound like Ozzy. Nobody can. But being having a love
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  Speaker 2: for country music, you know, it was like I remember
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  Speaker 2: sitting with my dad and we were on the way
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  Speaker 2: and we were listening to this album. You know, as
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  Speaker 2: I think as he noticed things were getting a little
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  Speaker 2: more serious. You know, it's like, well, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: it's a it's a Canadian that produced this album. His
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  Speaker 2: name's Kevin Cherco. This is kind of a crazy story
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  Speaker 2: where they were sitting there listening to the record and
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  Speaker 2: it was like, I'm like, oh, you know, and I was.
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  Speaker 2: It was so early on in my game that you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was I was just trying to like not make
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  Speaker 2: a name, but get down there and write good songs
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  Speaker 2: and whatnot and make connections. But I wasn't, you know
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  Speaker 2: everage like you know, oh yeah, this producer did Dad
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  Speaker 2: or this song right, Like, you know, it's just so
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  Speaker 2: new to everything. So at that time I wasn't aware
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  Speaker 2: but the fact that he did my favorite album at
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  Speaker 2: the time. And I remember telling Dad, I'm like, how
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  Speaker 2: cool would it be to have a country record like
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  Speaker 2: with a Haggard or Aertra's voice, but with this azzy production,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and I remember, remember, you know, just some
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  Speaker 2: of the cool things on that album, like the soldiers
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  Speaker 2: marching and the cool just affects that ultimately, as I
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  Speaker 2: learned that, you know, che Cherko did, and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: you hear that boot stump and Outlaws and Outsiders where
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  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, it was so surreal. So at
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  Speaker 2: the time, you know, I said that, and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: months go on, and I think it was about six
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  Speaker 2: months after that. I'm in Nashville with my producer at
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  Speaker 2: the time. He goes, you know what, you know, what
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  Speaker 2: we gotta do. I got to introduce you to this
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  Speaker 2: that a kid I grew up with. Man like, listen,
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  Speaker 2: it might not happen now because he's a big time producer,
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  Speaker 2: but he's from Saskatchewan, went to school and church and
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  Speaker 2: all that stuff with him, and we played in bands
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  Speaker 2: together going up. Have you ever heard of Kevin Churco.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no way you know Kevin Churko. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: did I swear to God I'll call him right now,
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  Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. A few months after that, he
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  Speaker 2: gets an email from Kevin and they haven't really spoken,
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  Speaker 2: like It's not like they spoke every day, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: the check in every now and then. And I guess
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  Speaker 2: after the I guess after Black Rain and Scream, Kevin
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  Speaker 2: called him and said, hey, man, by the way, is
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  Speaker 2: there anybody in the country music sceno down there and
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  Speaker 2: you know up there in Canada that you know that
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  Speaker 2: I could probably, you know, want to work with. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just kind of feeling demoned out. And then he says,
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  Speaker 2: I got the perfect guy, so, you know, sends them pictures,
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  Speaker 2: sends them the music that I had and some videos
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  Speaker 2: and whatnot. He says, well, look, I'm going to go
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  Speaker 2: visit my parents in moose Jaw on these dates and whatnot.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: And he says, well, perfect because Corey's tour touring with
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Toby Keith and moose Jaw and doing all his Canadian dates.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: So long story short, Kevin comes down with his whole
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: family and then I found out he was at the show.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: I was like, you got, like, no pressure, but the
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: cool the very cool thing. The very cool thing was
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: my parents have never been out west. That was their
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: very first time out west. Because I was doing a
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: swing of festivals on top of these Toby Keith shows,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: and sure, enough, I find out Kevin's actually going to
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: be at the show. So after the show, I go
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: in my green room. There he was with a shot
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: of Jack for one of each who says, great show man,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: do you want to get to work in September? And
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: that dude? And after that we went out for dinner
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: with my parents. I got to meet his parents and
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: I told that whole story about Black Rain, and it's like,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: this is happening, you know, And then we spent you know,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: that was we wrote our first two songs were Outlaws
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: and Outsiders and Blame It on the Double, and we
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: wrote and recorded those songs in September twenty fifteen, so
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: or twenty sixteen, I can't remember. I think it was
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: might have been twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen, so it
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: was already five or six years old before it even
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: came out, before we had the features, It's it's wild
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: and then who then next thing, you know, you know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: obviously that song blew up and made me the first
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Canadian country artist to have a top ten US rock
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: radio hit, and you know a number of top fives,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: and I fixed four or five different countries. You know,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: it was a it was a it was crazy, you know,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I got to I got to write and record twenty
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: some songs with him, and funny, I texted him one
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: of my last nights in in uh in Nashville, just
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: like a few days ago. I said, hey, man, I
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: think we need to hop on the phone and catch up,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: and I think we need to do another album together.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm putting it out there. I'm putting it
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: out there with Chris, with you, Chris. So let's let's
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: see what happened. That's that's the whole story behind that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Man, fantastic.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: It's long, but it's a good one.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: But look, you had that vision, of course, and then
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: you made it happen.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: But if it was something fresh and new in the
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: music world, what you're what you were doing, Like, how
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: much effort did it take to get others to share
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: your vision?
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Well, that's that's the great thing, is I mean, you know,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: he worked, he worked with you know, because at first
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: it was just me, him and Kane, his son, so
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: and I kind of had I already had like some
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: of this acoustic stuff, like Devil's Grin was a half
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: song I wrote and then I brought it up to
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: them and I don't even think it was called Devil's
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Grin at the time because it was kind of really
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: leaning on the country side. I think it was Kane
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: who brought that up, and then we kind of ran
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: with it. Her Angel smiles of the Devil's Grin and
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: you know, they just did their thing. But you know,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: we we The thing is with with Kevin is that
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: he you know, he not only did he produce like
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: and work with Shanai Twain and was in a country
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: band himself. He was a big fan of Steve Steve Earl,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: that was his favorite, you know, but also loved the
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: whale in the Merle and mine mine was Merle Haggard,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: you know, so but we're both drummers. So it was like,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: you know, but Shanaia Twain's from four hours up the
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: road north of me, and like now looking back, it's
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: like we played so many of the same venues before
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: she was Shanaya and it's like we just came four
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: hours south of where she's from, into North Bay, the
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Gateway City, and it's such a crazy and on top
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: of the ad did this crazy story before that whole
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: my manager introduced us well. On my first single, smartphone
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: he's I guess he didn't even tell me who he
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: was going to get done by, and he went and
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: got it done by by this guy, and and you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: obviously I said, I love the big I said I
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: want a big drum sound and all this, and it
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: was big. And then I guess Kevin Cherko heard it
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: and and as a producer, goes, that's my sound, blah
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and he was kind of like, what
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the hell is going on? I guess Louis, Louis my
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: manager didn't tell him that. He went to Kane, his son,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: to get it mixed and mastered and all done. So
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: then and then so the next thing, you know, he goes,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, that's like two years maybe two
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: years later, Kevin's you know, introduced to me officially, and
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and then we're all working together and it's like Caine
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: mixed and and and produced like my my first, you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: my first I think, Yeah, he mixed and mixed and
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: mastered my first single ever as a professional musician. And
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: then you know, a whole albu later, I'm doing my
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: next one with Kevin Cherco for you, you know, two
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: years later. So it's pretty it's it's pretty wild and
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: actually no pun intended. That has a lot to do
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: with a wild ride.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: The song that's a good song.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I want to thank you.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that was my second favorite.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Let the boys rip on that one, and they did.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: You're out on tour next month with seven Duster is
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: part of their South wide double White chawl. Are you
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: a fan of seven duckts Man like their acoustic stuff
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: is dynamite?
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I actually when I found out I got the tour,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I actually listened to They have a record from two
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: thousand and one that's their their live album, so I know, yeah,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: when I go to when I go to the gym,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I would listen to it. But I I didn't I
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: knew who they were, and I had a lot of
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: friends that you know, listen to them to, like a
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: lot of my metal head friends, and you know, I've
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: obviously heard, you know, their songs and stuff, but you know, yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I was quite surprised when you know, I found out
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: I was going out on tour with them. But honestly,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: and I've said this never interview of everyone that that
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: heard about it, like my buddies in Theory of a
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Dead Man and you know, even guys like I've been
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: moody and all that, they're like, man, uh yeah, they're great.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: They're great guys that you're gonna love them. They're really
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: they're really awesome. Like I've heard nothing but great things
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: about them, like, oh, you guys are gonna get along
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: so well, it's gonna be great.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: And the acoustic stuff they do, broy like, I'm talking
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: about it like that, and you're you're fitting really well
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: than three Bright the stuff you did.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I wish I was in America. I comed every show.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Well, man, I that's the thing. I've had some questions
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: about that, like how are you going to fit in?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I said, honestly, I'm just gonna go out there with
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: me my acoustic guitar. Is just gonna be me and
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: my guitar and the songs and the fans, and I'm
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: going to just try to win them all over every
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: night and do what I do. And I think, you know,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: it's acoustic. It worked very very well with Theory of
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: a Dead Man, and even even with a Brian Adams
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: cover near the end, and you know, I'm up there
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: playing what I want to play, and I just right
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: to God that you know the music gods, or rather
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: prayer that the you know, the people out there that
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: paid for a ticket are going to love it too.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: That's the most important thing.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I'll back you, brother, I reckon you be your Perga seven.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite bands in the world.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Chris, thank you.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: And then by the end of this year, you would
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: have done a headline story Canada. You would have done
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: debut chores to Europe, in the UK and chort America.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: But there's one country missing out of all.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: In that one.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's way down there, isn't it.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: You played on coming over Well.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Honestly, Australia has been a bucket list for me since
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: since Outlaws and I had I had about I had
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: about I think it was six or seven shows with
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: two festivals all lined up down there, and then COVID hit,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: so I had one hundred. I think it was around
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: one hundred shows because it was I had dates with
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Alice Cooper. It was like six or seven dates with
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Alice Cooper and the States an Amphitheaters tour, which I
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: think was like thirty six dates with Breaking Benjamin and
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Theory of a Dead Man. It was like five of
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: us on that bill, So that just in the US alone,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I think where I was around forty forty five shows.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Canada with the festivals and a tour that I was
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: on was another thirty thirty five shows, and then there
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: was another dozen that were locked in with Germany, Italy, Australia.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I think I think the UK as well,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: and it just all went away.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: So that so that being said, you know, like some
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: of the radio stations in the country, you know, and
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the country stations have been you know, you know, loving
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: loving the music and getting into that top top forty
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: and hopefully you know, Whiskey Rivers. I know it's going
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the radio, and I'm already getting some ads down there,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: which I'm hoping we'll definitely make that that case for
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: me to you know, to get down there whatever it is,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: and you know, I hope the rock stations do it too,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: of course, but you know, whatever is gonna get me
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: down there, man, because it's I've been. I've been, man.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Even even my fiance is like, you think you're gonna
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: go to Australia next year, and it's like, I don't know.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Management's always like it's too expensive right now. We need
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: to we need a case for it, and so on
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: and so forth. So I'm like, well, damn it, you
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: know better, Nolise, get on it and push it down there,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: because I need to. I need to make my way.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: It's been long overdue.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Well, they out pushing with me, Bro.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I've got teasers up all over heavy social media's for
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: you and stuff.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: So we're doing our part.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Brother, Ah, thank you, thank you heavy no No.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Last time, I Johnny and we did the photo bomb
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: segment and you're probably the first person I've ever got
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: to do this twice with now, mate, So I've got
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: so I've got some new photos for you that I
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: found on social media that I want.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: To know a bit more about.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, just right here, mate, Like you're playing
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: firefighter for the day, but I doubt you can put
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: any fires out with what you're holding there.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: That was uh, that was on the theory of a
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: dead Man tour. And I met up with one of
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: my one of my brother's teammates who came out to
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the show him and his wife and who happens to
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: be a Boston firefighter. So I said, dude, you got
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: to I mean, that's legendary stuff right there, especially you
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: know in America to go check out a Boston fire station,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: so well, how to say Boston basting, Boston fast and fasting,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: and uh, He's like, dude, you got to put on
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: my suit and everything. And as you could tell, I was,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: you know, I was having a great night. So I
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: struggle a little bit putting those that that heavy gear on,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: but we ended up getting this picture and it was
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: No, I said this other one. I don't know too
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: much about planes price, so I don't know if you're
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: in the in the driving to say, you know, or
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: in the passenger city bit. It looks like a lot
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: of fun.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was the plane. I'm flying it,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: and I took my dad up for Father's Day and
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: that was a very special moment. And you know, he
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: came up with me in my first plane, which was
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: happened to be the first car I ever owned. It
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: was a nineteen fifty six Tripacer and I bought that
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: back in h I think it was two thousand and one,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: after a little after I got my license, and I
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: didn't I only had it for a short period of
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: time because I had to get rid of it. It had
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: some maintenance issues and I needed a bus for the
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: US tour. So I've been you know, I found some
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: some flight schools where I can just rent planes and
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: have some friends that you know, I was able to
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: rent planes and fly them. Actually I just went flying
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: yesterday and but yeah, this is here Father's Day. I
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: took my dad flying and as you could tell, he's
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: both had that same smile, man, and we he's the
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: reason why I've really got an aviation from taking me
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: out a class when the fighter jets would come town,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: or bringing me to the air show.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: So that's a beautiful fighter. They haven't got any any
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: role that you gotta wear a T shirt. They are
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: up there, mate, nah na.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Na, No, that's it's it's hot up there, especially in
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: the summer. So uh, you know, I don't worry about
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: it too much.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Those nipples free, brother, all right, Cory, Well, thanks very
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: much for you, Tom br it's been a pleasure speaking
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: with you. Sorry for Nothing Volume two is out now,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: not the Cracker album bro, So nice to.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Luck, thank you, thank you man. Well, as you can see,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: my dad's wearing my Outlaws and Outsiders shirt there and
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: as and as far as as far as the nipples go,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I do have a tank top on. But either way, Chris,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry for nothing, and thank you for bringing up
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: that picture. Smothering as one lines, he's a curtain. Let
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: me show you the hand hung down red lines.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: We've been the dream another day and then I've been.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: A long night making that at all lies leaving.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: That wild life don't know me?
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Ja ticks a cow that I ain't tied.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: When you're here with me, it's just stamp rock and rolls.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Blood sweat, tears, and the last time living fool sing
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: along if you're here with me, Oh.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Hand said this guy.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Come on, all you with me? Past collors, big cities
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: from the ampside, it looks so pretty, m crowd the
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: usual for not sensation.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I'm talking no d your radio.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Station A long time speaking that of the old life
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: live or that wild life don't tell me speaking this
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: life takes a coe that I ain't tied. When you're
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: here with me, it's.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Just stamp rock and rolls.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Blood sweat tears, and.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: The last time moving there foo.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Sing along as your here is me? Oo hands in
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: the sky, Come on all you with me? Are you
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: is me telling you that cause this it is from
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the outside of it looks so pretty.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I'm twelve years old.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I see see s I'm time to my weedy, your
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: lady whose teacher living in sip tax of two, that
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I ain't time when you're here with me.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: It's just staying on the road, but with tears at
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the last time, living in oo sing along as your
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: here is me, Oh.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Hands in the sky, Come on out you with me,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Hey Dott coming out you and may Yeah, you and
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: me
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Are use me