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- 0:08Good afternoon. It's Monday, the twenty seventh May twenty twenty four, just
- 0:11after one o'clock. Welcome to the UK Colin News. I'm your host,
- 0:13Mike Robinson joining me today. We have Mark Anderson from the United States and
- 0:18Anne rasmuson mccaddi and from Scotland and we will be talking well Marianna Spring a
- 0:25little bit later. But first of all, we're going to get kicked off
- 0:28because today is the first day of the World Health Assembly. We've been waiting
- 0:33for this for quite a long time, and well Ted Ross decided that the
- 0:38best thing that he could do to kick it off was to start patting himself
- 0:42and some others on the back. Let's just have a quick look at this.
- 0:47Professor Kathleen Carico and Professor Drew Wasteman for their groundbreaking scientific work that led
- 0:57to the development of effective emmarne vaccine against COVID nineteen, research that led to
- 1:04them being awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine last year. In twenty
- 1:12twenty three, Professor Weissmann was not able to join us today, so Professor
- 1:19Carrico will be accepting the awards on behalf of both of them. The vaccines
- 1:26that Professor Weissmann and Professor Carrico developed have saved millions of lives and prevented millions
- 1:34of caves of severe COVID nineteen. Their innovative joint work has played a critical
- 1:42role in significantly reducing the burden of mortality and the burden of disease of COVID
- 1:49nineteen. Their leadership in this field has the potential to play a critical role
- 1:57in major health breakthroughs in the future. This achievement resultd from decades of hard
- 2:05work, perseiverance and weathering, dedication and collaborative spread long before this work was
- 2:14appreciated by the broad public and even the scientific community. So that's the tone
- 2:23for the day, and no doubt for the entire event. But Mark,
- 2:27I don't know what if you've got any thoughts on that little clip first,
- 2:30but take us through your thoughts on the event. Well, yeah, that's
- 2:36typically Tadrose to sound the trumpets and to talk as if vaccines cannot fail,
- 2:42as if they are practically a perfect miracle instrument in fighting disease. And that's
- 2:47always the underlying theme anyway, On the twenty fourth of May, as the
- 2:52slide shows, the WHO Member States is, of course, is their own
- 2:55website. They agree to share outcomes of the historic International Health REGs and the
- 3:02Pandemic Agreement and as that processes the outcomes and processes to the World Health Assembly
- 3:09that starts today. And that photo showed a couple members of the Bureau of
- 3:16the Intergovernmental Negotiating Body, including Precious Metsoso, an African woman, and that
- 3:24bureau sometimes calls it a treaty, but then now they've gotten away from calling
- 3:30it a treaty, even though they were for a while, which is important
- 3:32too. But anyway, this is a little bit from that May twenty four
- 3:36press release. As this all heats up, WHO Member States have ended intensive
- 3:42negotiations aimed at strengthening global capacities to respond to future pandemics and outbreaks in the
- 3:47wake of the COVID nineteen pandemic, and agreed to submit outcomes of their work
- 3:52for consideration by the upcoming Role of Health Assembly starting Monday, which is today.
- 3:57Two parallel negotiation processes were undertaken to make a series of amendments to the
- 4:01International Health REGs and to develop a first ever pandemic Agreement, convention or other
- 4:08legal instrument. There they're kind of monkeying with the language again. It's a
- 4:12treaty. Delegations to the seventy seventh WHA running today through June first, will
- 4:16consider the outcomes of both processes, that's the regulation and the treaty and the
- 4:21next steps, et cetera. So that lays the groundwork for exactly what they're
- 4:26doing. Mike, here we have Tadros. These are some key quotes from
- 4:30that press release. Over the past two years, WHO Member States have dedicated
- 4:35enormous effort to rise to this challenge posed by COVID nineteen and responds to the
- 4:42losses it caused, including at least seven million lives lost. No mention of
- 4:46what the vaccines themselves might have done in injuries or deaths, and the other
- 4:50parts of his quotes. COVID nineteen affected everybody, and that's why Member States
- 4:56started a process to develop a Pandemic Agreement to make the world better for prepared
- 5:00for the next pandemic. Right now, the main candidate is avian flu.
- 5:04While great progress was made during these negotiations, ellipsis dots, there are challenges
- 5:11still to overcome. We need to use the WHA to re energize us and
- 5:15finish the job at hand to present the world with a generational pandemic agreement.
- 5:20As Tadrose concluded, and this includes what I mentioned recently, Mike, the
- 5:26great catchup to get a lot of kids, you know, millions of kids
- 5:30they've been saying vaccinated that weren't vaccinated the first time during the initial pandemic.
- 5:35So they want to perform the great catch up as well, and we'll move
- 5:40on from there. I believe we have a video clip of Tadrose at a
- 5:44subsequent press conference right after that press release. Next week, leaders from around
- 5:53the world will participate in the World Held Assembly. This year could be one
- 5:58of the most significantin teen our seventy six year history, as two years of
- 6:02government and negotiations to strengthen the global pandemic and response apparatus are high on the
- 6:10agenda and there is progress. Member states have in principle agreed to a package
- 6:17of amendments to strengthen the international Health Regulations. These amendments set out to improve
- 6:26how countries prepare, for, detect, and respond to public health emergencies of
- 6:30international concern and will be part of a package put forward at the Assembly.
- 6:38This process has been running in parallel to negotiations around a complementary International Agreement on
- 6:46Pandemic Prevention, Preparedness and Response. The international Health Regulations focus on raising countries
- 6:53capacities to detect and respond to public health events that are an international risk.
- 7:00A Pandemic Agreement focuses on strengthening coordination for an international response to pandemics with equitable
- 7:08access to personal protective equipment, vaccines, therapeutics, and diagnostics at the core,
- 7:15along with strength international health regulations. The Pandemic Agreement remains our best shot
- 7:23and indeed our generational opportunity at making sure next time a virus hits, we
- 7:29have a plan to get critical health tools to people quickly, effectively, and
- 7:34fairly. That's more of the basic roundwork that Tait Rose is laying and we
- 7:43might as well hit the next video mic because now he talks about some new
- 7:46program. So they're always rolling out a follow up and then they've got something
- 7:51new in store, which is pretty common these days, So let's listen to
- 7:54the next one. Also at the Assembly, who be launched in a new
- 8:01global health strategy developed in partnership with one hundred and ninety four member states and
- 8:07partners, which sets a course for getting the world back on track to heat
- 8:13the health related sustainable development goals. Crucial decisions are expected on a range of
- 8:20health priorities such as climate and health, who's work in health emergencies, access
- 8:26to transformative tools, communicabilities, non communicabile, diss mental health, women's health,
- 8:33and the reform of WHO itself. On six May, WHO will be
- 8:39launching our first Investment Round, a new mechanism for WHO which the Executive Board
- 8:46approved in January. The Investment Round is designed to ensure that voluntary contributions,
- 8:54which are currently the majority of our funding, will be more predicted, flexible
- 9:01and sustainable. Our new investment case outlines why and how supporting w JOY is
- 9:07essential for progress in global health and saving millions of lines. It will be
- 9:15launched on twenty eight May during the Assembly. So you see there's a lot
- 9:22in stor Mic and I think mainly what he is referring to there to target
- 9:26the sustainable development goals of the UN twenty thirty is that great catchup to get
- 9:33people, especially kids that weren't vaccinated sufficiently according to the who's criteria, to
- 9:39get them vaccinated this time around. In case the feared H five N one
- 9:46av and flu just as overwhelming the world. Maybe you have some comments,
- 9:50Mike in the last couple of minutes of what we're doing here. Well,
- 9:52I mean, my comment about that second video in particular is he's talking about
- 9:56funding and investment runs. So suddenly the World Health Organization is turning into what
- 10:03some kind of incubator for big business, you know, some kind of I
- 10:09meant, obviously, we understand that the investment that the private investment that goes
- 10:16into the w Health, the World Health Organization at the moment, is done
- 10:20on a project by project business. So somebody like the Bill Milndigates Foundation will
- 10:24come along and say, well, here's the tranche money for a particular project,
- 10:28and that money can only be used for that project. And effectively it's
- 10:31the private funders that are driving the wh SHOWS agenda. They seem to be
- 10:37taking that to a new level as part of this World Health Assembly. I'm
- 10:43staggered by how much they don't want to use the word treaty. But my
- 10:48question, you Mark, is because obviously we are now in the process of
- 10:52a general election, so our MPs won't be discussing any of this because they're
- 10:58not in a job at the moment. Is there any engagement politically in the
- 11:03United States on this issue or are you tube already too far into the election
- 11:09cycle for November? The election cycle effects that somewhat. You're seeing most of
- 11:15the discussion at the attorney general level. At the state rep level. A
- 11:20few federal reps and senators like Ron Johnson and Wisconsin have discussed it off and
- 11:24on over the months. Ron Johnson is supposed to have a bill S four
- 11:28four four that would get the Senate really engaged in this, and the Killarney
- 11:33declaration that we'll talk about a little later makes an oblique reference to that.
- 11:39But on a report card, the US would be getting a C plus at
- 11:43best. MIC In getting this discussed more broadly, there's rumbles here and there,
- 11:48but nothing really loud and sustained and coherent, unfortunately that I'm aware of.
- 11:54Hopefully that'll change real quick. Well, if you're getting a C plus
- 11:58where you're doing better than the UK. But okay. In the meantime,
- 12:01though, of course, the war agenda moves on, and well National Service
- 12:05has raised its ugly head. Let's have a look at well the motivated,
- 12:13energetic, exciting Richie Sinak launching this we have so much to be proud of
- 12:20in Britain, but one of the problems in our society is that we have
- 12:22generations of young people who don't have the opportunities they deserve. Britain today faces
- 12:28a future that is more dangerous and more divided. There's no doubt how democratic
- 12:33values are under threat. That is why we will introduce a bold new model
- 12:37of national service for eighteen year olds to be spent either in a competitive full
- 12:43time military commission over twelve months, or with one weekend per month volunteering in
- 12:48roles within the community like delivering prescriptions, in food to infirm people or in
- 12:54search and rescue. Young people will gain valuable skills, make our country more
- 12:58secure and build a stronger national culture. This ambition benefits our country and our
- 13:05young people alike. Just look at Sweden, where eighty percent of young people
- 13:09completing national service say they'd recommend it to their friends. Uncertain times call for
- 13:15a clear plan and bold action to chart a course to a secure future.
- 13:20Our plan will ensure new generations and our country meet the challenges of the uncertain
- 13:24world. Keirst, armor and labor don't have a clear plan and won't take
- 13:28the bold action to navigate to a more secure future. You love the little
- 13:35graphic at the end. There they've got a clear plan. Apparently it's so
- 13:39clear, it's transparent. There's nothing in it. But anyway, that must
- 13:45have inspired everybody. I realize it's lunchtime and you're all trying to eat,
- 13:48so I do apologize for it. But let's bring up his tweets because he
- 13:52also produced some tweets to tell us all about this. So he was introducing
- 13:56National service and he was asking, are we wondering how it will improve ours
- 14:01or our children's future? Not? Really, here are five things you need
- 14:05to know, he says, So let's have a look. Every eighteen year
- 14:07old will get the choice of how they do their National service, deciding to
- 14:11either serve their country in the armed forces or serve their community by volunteering.
- 14:16This bold new model will open up a world of opportunity, will make sure
- 14:20young people in the UK get the same chance in life as their peers in
- 14:24allies like Sweden. Let's just remember that Sweden is a country where young people
- 14:28are already injecting themselves in microchips. So not sure that's the best model to
- 14:35be using here. Sweden, Norway Denmark and France, he said. Tories
- 14:39also mentioned Israel as a great example of national service as well. Some people
- 14:43may have a view about that, but anyway, he said, which all
- 14:46have recently introduced in the nice new forms of national service, everyone will get
- 14:52the life changing chance to learn from the best of the best. For men
- 14:56and women of our armed forces are inspirational NHS staff or the Fire Service,
- 15:01gaining skills for life and everything from cyber to leadership. The COVID pandemic showed
- 15:05the value of civic service to individuals and our country as a whole. By
- 15:09building on this spirit of community, this bold action will enable young people to
- 15:13give back to the communities and raise them. And he finished off by saying
- 15:16this clear plan is costed in full through clamping down on tax avoidance and through
- 15:22funding previously used for the Shared Prosperity Fund, meaning that we will deliver a
- 15:28national service raising a single tax and on top of our commitment to spend two
- 15:31point five percent of GDP on defense by twenty thirty. People that are in
- 15:37RECEPD of money from the Department of Work and Pensions are already discovering how the
- 15:41government is starting to crack down on what they considered to be wrongdoing and pulling
- 15:46money back from people that are full time carers and so on. So this
- 15:50seems to be the mechanism that they are wanting to use to fund this thing.
- 15:56But the question of what would happen if somebody decided not to bother that
- 16:00they didn't really want to get involved in going to the military or any other
- 16:03volunteering work. What would happen? Sky News asked, I'm Marie Trevellian this
- 16:08morning if a young person, an eighteen year old, if this policy was
- 16:15to come into force skip's National service, what recourse will they face? Are
- 16:19they going to be arrested? Are they going to be in prison? Are
- 16:22they going to be in fined? Are they going to have to do another
- 16:23year's worth of service? What's going to happen to them? So, as
- 16:27a barmister set out, there would be a Royal commission to work out the
- 16:32details, but mandatory, and it's been clear that there wouldn't be a criminal
- 16:37sanction. But much like the fact that it's a requirement to stay in their
- 16:44educational training until you're eighteen, that is the normal way of things, and
- 16:48this would therefore become in a similar way a mantra activity, so employers would
- 16:53be clear that they would look to see what you had done. This would
- 16:57be become part of the normal toolkit that young people would present as they moved
- 17:03through their careers going forwards. And I think that so, in other words,
- 17:07you're effectively being blackmailed into doing it. So there may not be any
- 17:11criminal sanction, at least not on day one. The Row Commission will make
- 17:15the decisions on how this happens, and then they're intending to have this rolling
- 17:18out in a pilot scheme by the end of the year. So the question
- 17:23is where's this all coming from. We've got to go back to January,
- 17:26of course and bring Admiral to Tony Radigan on screen, and we remember that
- 17:33he was talking about conscription, but not in any traditional sense of the term.
- 17:36And indeed this is not in a traditional sense of the term conscription.
- 17:41So this is clearly what they were talking about. And the key point here
- 17:44is this who's driving this agenda. It's not the Tory Party. It's coming
- 17:49from the defense community, the war community within the UK, and we shouldn't
- 17:56forget that. Patrick Sanders also who's a Chief of the Defense Staff, also
- 18:00talking about this government will need to mobilize the nation in the event with the
- 18:04war with Russia. And now, of course they're already talking about openly in
- 18:08the UK politicians and also NATO Jan Stotenberg talking openly about the need to start
- 18:15attacking, taking the Ukraine war across the borders into Russia. This is getting
- 18:21extremely dangerous and of course the main problem for the UK, as with many
- 18:26in the West, is recruitment into the military. We've been talking about this
- 18:32over the last couple of years here in the UK column News and this was
- 18:36forces dot Net from March damning figures for UK military recruitment, with fifty four
- 18:41percent giving up on the process. Last year, the UK handed the recruitment
- 18:48i'd sourced that to Kapita, who also gathers money for the BBC, of
- 18:52course, and they have failed miserably to recruit people into the military for a
- 18:57number of reasons, one of them being the fact that they're pursuing a woke
- 19:02agenda and attempting to bring diversity into the military. Another reason is, of
- 19:07course, people are recognizing that the country is heading onto war footing and they
- 19:11are not really wanting to go and fight for this bunch of buffoons that we
- 19:17have running the country for the last lot of years, and nothing's going to
- 19:19change, as we're going to see in a minute. But of course,
- 19:22the other aspect of this was that if you don't want to join the milit
- 19:25I should say, by the way, that although this is going to be
- 19:27sort of a choice thing at the beginning, they're making it clear that there
- 19:30will be legislation following which will make it mandatory. But the other aspect of
- 19:36this was volunteering. And so I'll just make the point that one of the
- 19:40topics that we've been covering on the UK column for many, many years now
- 19:42is the issue of volunteering and how that is bringing young people into the third
- 19:49sector, as Tony Blair called it. And so this article is from twenty
- 19:53sixteen Volunteers Talent for the New Class. This is all about leadership training and
- 20:00bringing people into civil society and into government and so on to pursue the types
- 20:06of internationalist policies that Ted Ross represents. And well, let's just make the
- 20:11point here that people are already criticizing this and saying, well, don't worry
- 20:15because the Tories don't have a chance anyway. But this particular tweet saying Conservative
- 20:22Central HQ sending out appalling media performers. That's not quite what it says,
- 20:27but I'll just clean it up a little bit there, throwing everything at this
- 20:30election except anything good. Well, of course that Tories don't have a chance
- 20:34really, but the question is are they going to it's labor going to be
- 20:40any better? Peter Hitchins doesn't think so. He's saying the best thing to
- 20:44be doing at this point is voting against Starmer. I have no hopes for
- 20:48the Tories, he says, whom I despise, but a new Liberal government
- 20:51will be far, far worse and permanent. So of course Starmer was making
- 20:56his law. His campaign launched this morning. As Debbie said on Friday,
- 21:02the podium covered with the word change. But of course it's no change because
- 21:07although it's going to be a change from Tory policy, this is effectively going
- 21:11back to labor policy of the Tony Blair edge, and the voluntary aspect of
- 21:18this is absolutely going to be part of this. There is no solution to
- 21:21this problem within politics with any of these political parties, and so if we
- 21:26just put that graphic back on screen again, I just want to remind everybody
- 21:30again of the hashtag. Since it is the fourth of July that we're having
- 21:33our general election on, let's start calling it Independence Day with a T and
- 21:38encouraging people to vote independent outside of political parties. I think that is probably
- 21:44the best option, at least as far as politics goes in this country.
- 21:48Diane, let me welcome you to the program and we're going to be talking
- 21:53Marianna Spring. Yes, Mike, thanks very much. For those of you
- 22:00who hopefully saw UK Call News last Wednesday, you will have seen that Mike
- 22:04launched for us UK see Verify. And the reason that we've done this is
- 22:08because, for those of you who are not familiar with BBC Verify, BBC
- 22:12has had a service that employs sixty journalists and has done for the last couple
- 22:18of years now, which they claim they were working to fight misinformation. So
- 22:23we know exactly what that means. Marianna Spring is at the head of BBC
- 22:30Verify essentially, so we have to ask the question where did Marianna Spring from?
- 22:36So if you look at her LinkedIn profile, we see some interesting things
- 22:41she's done, some internships at The Guardian and so on. It is important
- 22:45to note potentially that she worked at the Moscow Times from twenty fifteen to twenty
- 22:49sixteen translating Russian articles into English, so that may be noteworthy. She studied
- 22:56a variety of languages, including Russian, at Pembroke College at Oxford. Going
- 23:00further back into her history, she was head girl in high school, so
- 23:06Suffolk High School, and when she was fourteen she was the ballgirl at Wimbledon
- 23:11and you can see there that she was handing flowers to the Queen as the
- 23:15Queen arrived at Wimbledon that year, so that gives a little bit about where
- 23:18she comes from. We have a short clip here I believe that shows her
- 23:23talking about what she does now at the BBC, and it's a very long
- 23:29title as well. It's Specialist Disinformation and Social Media Reporter and essentially what that
- 23:33means is that I investigate usually the real world impact of online disinformation conspiracies.
- 23:44So she's written a book that has been published earlier this year called Among Patrols,
- 23:49My Journey through a Conspiracy Land, and it's interesting to see the endorsement
- 23:53on the front cover when Ian Hisslat said that it is full of unbelievable nonsense.
- 24:00I would like to remind the viewers that the definition of nonsense, according
- 24:03to the Merriam Webster Dictionary, is words or language having no meaning or conveying
- 24:08no intelligible ideas, and that is what this book is comprised of. I
- 24:12read it twice the past few days so that the UK column viewers and presenters
- 24:17didn't have to. It is mostly anecdotes about people she met online, through
- 24:22telegram, through various lockdown protests that she went to in the last few years.
- 24:30So over the weekend, Debbie and I were quite busy on Twitter while
- 24:34the rest of our team was away at the Damn the Light Festival. So
- 24:37we kind of started a bit of a Twitter storm, and Debbie had a
- 24:41pull asking if anyone would like to hear me. A professor of informatics and
- 24:47a qualified librarian and a researcher interviewed Maryanna Spring for some open, evidence based
- 24:52debate and it looks like almost everyone said no, said yes. One person
- 24:57said no. That was probably Marianna her I tweeted out little bits of information
- 25:03from her book and so on throughout the weekend, including her saying I realized
- 25:07how low conspiracy theorist and trolls had sunk, not just in the UK but
- 25:10all over the world. And just as a reminder, Justin Trudeau, for
- 25:12example, said those who don't get jabbed our misogynist and racist, which I
- 25:18believe is really sinking to the bottom. So it's unfortunately we reached out to
- 25:23Marianna, she didn't respond. We really hope she would. I was really
- 25:26surprised that she hasn't blocked us just yet. But because she didn't accept my
- 25:32invitation to come today on the UK column News for this evident space debate,
- 25:37we have a fake Marianna spring with us today instead to be interviewed. I
- 25:41guess maybe the real Marianna she's too shy, maybe she just doesn't want to
- 25:45talk to us, maybe we have too much facts on our show. I'm
- 25:48not sure. But instead we have fake Marianna here. Sorry, I just
- 25:55want to make it absolutely clear to everyone that the words that the fake that
- 26:00are going to be speaking are Marianna's words from her book. That's right,
- 26:04that's right. But we have the real Marianna fake words from her book.
- 26:08We have the fake Marianna today standing in her place. And the fake Marianna
- 26:12is our best voiceover actress. Some of our regular viewers might recognize her voice,
- 26:19but welcome to the show, Fake Marianna, how are you? Oh?
- 26:23Hold on, let me just check my twenty four fake social media profiles
- 26:27for notifications before we start. Okay, I hope you're done with that.
- 26:36You have made up the name conspiracy Land. Could you please tell our viewers
- 26:40what that means. You can build a whole world where objective truth is irrelevant.
- 26:48That's how conspiracy Land works. Okay, what did you think you were
- 26:56going to do when you started to write this book? Well, I'm going
- 27:00to track the lives of various online lies deployed by different activists and governments,
- 27:08Marianna. In twenty twenty, our Prime minister told us we must stay at
- 27:14home whilst he had parties at Number ten Downing Street. That's what your BBC
- 27:19employer said, right? Do you trust what they have covered when we were
- 27:22told to stay at home while bors was out having parties. I have a
- 27:27friend whose health was constantly flooded with sewage water, including dirty used masks.
- 27:33Was it safe for her to stay at home? Huh? Jason in top
- 27:38Ness had conspiracy theory videos including job Justice, Stop the Job and Climate Fear
- 27:45and saying no to the digital identification slavery. They tended to be underpinned by
- 27:52the idea though. We're being constantly tracked and trapped in order to control us,
- 28:03Marianna, We are being constantly tracked and trapped in order to control us.
- 28:07Do you remember the NHS test and tracea? Did you know that Australia
- 28:11has just passed the digital idea built twenty twenty four. This has all happened,
- 28:15and it's all fat ah. The problem with truth though, is that
- 28:22it's cold and categorical. To me, it seems very sinister when a young
- 28:27female investigative reporter working in a democracy is specifically targeted with hate and abuse at
- 28:37her place of work. Oh you know what, we actually found something that
- 28:44we agree on. To me, it has felt very sinister indeed, when
- 28:48I, a middle aged female professor working in a democracy, have been specifically
- 28:52targeted with hate and abuse at my place of work as well. Well.
- 28:57Anyway, thanks for your time, pick Mary and maybe the real one.
- 29:00We'll join us next time. And thank you you trolling, hateful conspiracy theorist.
- 29:14Wow, Mike, what do you think of that? Well, I'm
- 29:18glad you read the book so that I didn't have to, and I'm glad
- 29:22you read the book, so none of our viewers had to. I would
- 29:25absolutely discourage anyone for buying the book. Maybe you could get it from a
- 29:29library if you're really particularly interested. But of course, the idea of any
- 29:34critical comment equaling hit is designed to stop critical comments absolutely. So with our
- 29:45new service U case you Verify, we are offering a real fact checking service.
- 29:51Let us know what you need fact checked. Anything from mainstream media we
- 29:55can fact check, We will do our best and we will make sure that
- 29:57it is factual. So please pass on any questions that you have. Yes,
- 30:02with the cavet, of course, we don't have how many journalists did
- 30:06you say are in BBC Verify at this point? They have sixty. Yeah,
- 30:10so we will not have the same quite the same resource, so we
- 30:14will have to choose our fact checking. But we will be doing this on
- 30:18a much more regular basinis because it's time to hold mainstream media to account.
- 30:22So anyway, let's move on. Thank you Dan for that, and thank
- 30:26you to fake Marianna as well. I think everybody knows who that was.
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- 31:30event on Sunday in the second of June twenty twenty four in Jamaica Street in
- 31:34Glasgow. That's tickets available at Tickets to Scotland. This is for the VAX
- 31:41Scottish Vaccine Injury Group. Do get along to that if you possibly can.
- 31:45And the interview that was done with Ruth Rafferty is on the UK Column website.
- 31:51Ruth Rafferty from the Scottish Vaccine Injury Group is on the UK Column website.
- 31:56If you haven't seen that and you haven't shared it yet, please do
- 32:00one pm tomorrow for the interview with Dinny van Kleef from the Control Group.
- 32:07This is all about parallel societies and so on. Of course, under the
- 32:10government's definition of extremism, creating parallel parallel institutions is considered an act of extremism,
- 32:20so please join us one pm tomorrow to hear about this particular act of
- 32:24extremism. And we also want to mention Hands Off RAFA event emergency rally taking
- 32:31place opposite Dining Street tomorrow six p Yes, tomorrow, six pm. If
- 32:37you can possibly get along to that, please do, And let's just very
- 32:42briefly mention RAFA And of course what's been happening overnight is absolutely atrocious, not
- 32:47that anybody should be surprised, bearing in mind what's been happening for the last
- 32:51six months, but it's really air strikes on Rafa, killing at least thirty
- 32:55five people, possibly as many as fifty. This of course was a strike
- 33:01on what was effectively a refugee camp at the time. This was an area
- 33:07that the IDEF had said was effectively not at least it was specifically designated as
- 33:14a humanitarian area, and they certainly had not told anyone to evacuate. So
- 33:20most of these people that were killed and injured by this were civilians, including
- 33:25one particularly harrowing image or video clip of a baby missing its head. It
- 33:31was I'm sorry to have to tell you that, but it was absolutely horrendous
- 33:37the scenes from this and well, this is what Gilad Atsman was putting out
- 33:43this morning on Twitter. I'll be happy to learn from Apak, Israel and
- 33:47the IDF what is the exact international law that makes the burning of dozens of
- 33:52displaced refugees in their tents into a legal act. Mark. I don't know
- 33:58if you've got any thoughts on this, but the situation continues to get worse.
- 34:02So it was probably inevitable that once the ICC sorry the ICJ, demanded
- 34:10that Israel stop their attack on Rafa, that in fact it was going to
- 34:14ramp up. But you know this continuous attack on civilians under the guise of
- 34:22dealing with hamas can't continue. Oh. Absolutely. The one thing about Israel
- 34:29is we're told that nationalism, particularly hypernationalism, is bad, but when it
- 34:35comes to the Israeli state, the cruelest forms of nationalism are allowed to blossom.
- 34:40Other than that, we're told we have to be internationalists and we all
- 34:44have to get along, and isn't it wonderful on a global scale? And
- 34:47so Israel feels in boldened, especially through USAID, to do whatever they want
- 34:52to do whenever they want to do it, and to hell with anybody that
- 34:55would tell them different, especially the International Court of Justice. And so the
- 35:00huge irony here, the thing that we really got to contemplate, is any
- 35:05other time in history, the Israeli state would have been seen as a pariah
- 35:08and the world would have been galvanized to go stop the Israeli state from doing
- 35:13this. But now they're doing it with impunity, and it's even celebrated in
- 35:16some circles. It's a huge irony and black eye on humanity's notion of morality
- 35:23and fair play. Well, it's a huge black eye on the notion of
- 35:28the so called international rules based order, or at least it's a demonstration of
- 35:31what that term means is that we make up the rules and the rules can
- 35:36change on a daily business. There's no actual order in it. It's disorder
- 35:39and it's quite incredible. I mean, I've only touched the surface of this
- 35:44story and Vanessa undoubted lee we'll cover it much more detail on Wednesday, but
- 35:47it did feel that we couldn't do the news today without mentioning it. But
- 35:52now let's come back onto international events and so on, in the sense of
- 35:57international policy at least, what is the Kilarney Declaration? Mark Well, in
- 36:06Killarney, Ireland, this activist named Eddie Hobbs, and thanks to Alex Thompson
- 36:10for tipping me off on this, Eddie Hobbs brought out a declaration. Along
- 36:17declaration that's what it is a long statement of observing what's going on with the
- 36:25World Pandemic Treaty and Ireland's involvement in that and other internationalist schemes. The declaration
- 36:32is calling out against those schemes. It's calling on the Government of Ireland,
- 36:37including the ancient peoples of Ireland that predate the state itself, is calling on
- 36:43you might say, the soul of Ireland to really protest these things, and
- 36:47there was a big Global Economic Summit. We can see that in the next
- 36:51slide, happening in Killarney right at the same time, and by all indications,
- 36:55Mike Eddie Hobbs read this declaration at or near the site of the Global
- 37:00Economic Summit. We can talk a little bit about that just for context.
- 37:06Global cooperation, as says, has never been more important about the Global Economic
- 37:10Summit in connecting progress with purpose. Globalization, international conflict, the dawn of
- 37:16artificial intelligence, and the climate emergency are just some of the issues that will
- 37:22dominate policy making and global boardroom conversations for years to come. This Global Economic
- 37:27Summit, which we're told as a relatively new event, is a not for
- 37:30profit thing which we'll see international leaders and decision makers convene in the West of
- 37:36Ireland to develop fresh solutions to these global challenges, fresh solutions really transforming words
- 37:42into meaningful impact. It took place at the europe Hotel in County Kerry and
- 37:49I won't read all of this next slide except to say the middle part of
- 37:53it this is really interesting. Keeping in mind the context where Eddie Hobbs read
- 37:58this Declaration. The Globeble Economic Summit is established as an independent company limited by
- 38:04guarantees CLG and proudly functions as the philanthropic foundation for the Business Post Group.
- 38:12So they're hiding behind charity again. Originating from a collaborative effort among journalists,
- 38:16business leaders and political figures, the foundation emerged in response to evolving journalism models,
- 38:23evolving journalism models and the need for impartial analysis that guides fact based,
- 38:29objective decision making. Fusing the dynamism and rigor of a newsroom with Ireland's extraordinary
- 38:36convening power the Global Economic somemit is uniquely positioned to unite global leaders in impactful
- 38:42dialogue. So journalism Mike is just embedding itself in the governmental process. It's
- 38:46not reporting on it apart from it. Rather it's a part of it.
- 38:52And this is a common builderberg thing. The media is just completely dropping its
- 38:55function as a watchdog of the state and has said it's collaborating with the state
- 39:00anyway. We have some of what Eddie Habs read from the Clarney declaration and
- 39:06he kind of captures the essence of it here at the beginning of it.
- 39:08So we'll go with this video. The ancient Irish people, who predate this
- 39:16state by centuries and who have long asserted our rights to freedom from tyranny,
- 39:22do so again. We declare the right of the Irish people to the unfettered
- 39:29control of Irish destinies, to be sovereign and indefeasible. The Irish people demand
- 39:37our legal endowment from the nineteen eighty seven Supreme Court Crosti ruling to a national
- 39:43referendum on the continuing membership of the World Health Organization. We do so because
- 39:52the WHO intends to force a Trojan Heart treaty upon us, disguised as a
- 39:58new agreement and a complete overhaul of all regulations. We demand, in the
- 40:07first instance that the Irish government rejects these maneuvers as a breach of WHO membership
- 40:13rules and which require a four month window before any changes are adapted. But
- 40:20we see through and beyond the agency of the WHO to a multi front agenda
- 40:28determined to create a borough digital technocracy which threatens to subvert all liberal democracies.
- 40:37And so we reach out from here at home and abroad to all those now
- 40:42awakening to the real and present danger from it. Whispered through the sound of
- 40:49silence during the lockdowns is a stark warning about the banality of evil from Hannah
- 40:54Arrent, who studied the Eichmann trial in Jerusalem in the early nineteen sixties and
- 41:01who predicted that twenty first century totalitarianism would be led not by the monsters of
- 41:09the last one, but by the banal bureaucrats of the next. So we
- 41:15recognize and applaud the intervention of all US Republican senators to demand Senate vote on
- 41:22the WHO plans to subvert US democracy, the rejection of it by large numbers
- 41:29of attorney state attorney generals, and the determination of state legislatures led by Louisiana
- 41:36to reject the WHO, the UN, and the World Economic Forum. We
- 41:42recognize the intentions of the UK, Netherland and the Slovak Republic governments to reject
- 41:47the WHO. And we note that these events occur as a first major vaccine
- 41:53is pulled from human health due to the clatting of our human blood that gives
- 42:02the thrust of it. There are a couple more slides where I could read
- 42:06a little more of it. Mike, I don't know if you have any
- 42:07comments, but he is clearly laying the groundwork for this, and showing that
- 42:14he believes there's something in the the inside of the Irish people, something in
- 42:21their history, in their traditions, that can rise up and fight against this,
- 42:24and calling attention to this. One of those banell bureaucres, by the
- 42:29way, is Tadros, the Director General of the WHO, who in fact
- 42:34did attend this global Economic summit, the outside of which Eddie Hobbs read the
- 42:38entire declaration, which is actually quite long. I might add, Mike,
- 42:43I don't know if you have any other comments. I can share a couple
- 42:45other choice comments from that declaration, but either way you want to go,
- 42:51yeah, go ahead, Mark, Yeah, anyway, Just to sort of
- 42:54put a capstone on what he was saying, it also says we see you
- 43:00the bureaucrats in the Irish government's continued participation in a globalist enterprise for which it
- 43:06has no mandate from the Irish people, a people who fought long and hard
- 43:09to repel the grip of empire, to which we have no intention of capitulating,
- 43:15no matter how it disguises itself. The WHO Pandemic Agreement Agenda twenty thirty,
- 43:20with its so called sustainable development goals and the EU Migration Pact. We
- 43:25see you the banell bureaucrats in the moves to bring representative representative democracy, bring
- 43:31it to an end by replacing it with stakeholder capitalism. That's so true.
- 43:37This is a model of centralized, anti democratic global governance advanced by the unelected
- 43:43World Economic Forum, which craves fusing state power, NGOs and corporate power together.
- 43:47Very accurate there to the growing global power of unaccountable and unelected super national
- 43:53institutions like the WHO and the UN. And we can move on from CyArk.
- 43:59Just before you do move on, I'll just I'll just say in that
- 44:01in that one, that second paragraph there talking about stakeholder capitalism, talking about
- 44:07the fusing of of par these are terms that we are seeing in the UK
- 44:15government. With the UK government even has a doctrine which it calls the Fusion
- 44:19Doctrine, which is all about creating these public private partnerships, but also extending
- 44:27that to partnerships with nngus and other so called third sector organizations. So he's
- 44:34absolutely hit the nail on the head with this. This is exactly the type
- 44:37of thing that Mariana Spring would be calling conspiracy theory. But he has he's
- 44:42absolutely accurate with it, and you're accurate, Mike, and showing that the
- 44:46government with this fusion doctrine is actually doing these things. The Marianna Springs of
- 44:52the world, they just call people wrong without looking as as to whether the
- 44:55statements are actually accurate or not. We'll just look at this last because it's
- 45:00the most important of the remaining ones. And this is the actual website where
- 45:05the Clarinity declaration. When you go to it, there's a icon that's floating
- 45:09in the text field and you click on that and this is what comes up.
- 45:13Signed the declaration digitally, and I believe you don't have to be irish
- 45:17to do it. It looks like it's worldwide, So check it out if
- 45:21you want to get involved and sign it, and you can read more about
- 45:23it at that website as well. Thank you, Mark, Thank you very
- 45:27much, Diane. Then back to you, and we're beginning with Debbie's blog.
- 45:32Yes, thanks Mike. So, when Debbie was discussing her blog with
- 45:38me a few days ago and we realized that we had some convergence and things
- 45:44that I've done in the past and what she was looking into, specifically around
- 45:47my predos research and health information and providing health information to people in ways that
- 45:53are the most effective. And so this particular section, if you go bacimate
- 45:59her blog, you can link to the research that we've mentioned, both mine
- 46:04as well as the other one that I'm going to talk about today. So
- 46:07I'm not sure if anyone has ever heard of the company called wood Newton.
- 46:13I had not heard of wood Newton until last week when we were having this
- 46:16discussion. But what happened was Wood Newton got funding through Nice and the MHRA
- 46:24of some of our best friends to do this research around digital mental health tools.
- 46:30So the money was from the Welcome Trust that was the funder, and
- 46:36they gave money to Nice and MHRA and then the majority of the money went
- 46:40on to wood Newton, the company to do the actual research and do most
- 46:46of the reporting. So I had to look into who is wood Newton.
- 46:50So it turns out that wood Newton, working together with the MHRA with Nice
- 46:54with Welcome Trust funding, is another one of these public privates, and we'll
- 47:00call this one a philanthropic partnership. So what does wood Newton do Well,
- 47:04they have a CREEPI first of all, on top of what they do,
- 47:07and they basically give some very vague language in my opinion, about the type
- 47:12of research that they do, engaging people that work with different things in terms
- 47:17of finding innovative and cost effective solutions. We have to be innovative these days.
- 47:22That's another buzzword our clients is you can see here some wonderful organizations,
- 47:28including the NHS, including the Ministry of Defense, including you know, other
- 47:32third sector charity government organizations. So we can see here that they have incredible
- 47:38links with corporations as well as government as well as what we would call third
- 47:44sector or charities. And we know a little bit about those. So what
- 47:49did they do with this? So they did this research and there's a larger
- 47:54report, it's about a sixty page PDIF report. We can provide a link
- 47:58to that and the show notes. But I'm going to take about this part
- 48:00of it because dead Be pointed out in particular that if we put together this
- 48:07agenda of wellness as we would call it, and what does wellness mean?
- 48:10Wellness to me, it seems like after being directly involved in wellness related research,
- 48:17I used to be in a research group called the Digital Health and Wellness
- 48:21Group, so I have first hand experience of how this all works. They
- 48:23get large amounts of Moody to do things that they could find out or much
- 48:28cheaper, and we're talking about millions of pounds for these projects such as this
- 48:32one that wood Newton has through the MHIR and nice. So when we look
- 48:37in particular at young people and what they said about digital health mental health technologies
- 48:42and what this means is things like apps or in the past it would have
- 48:45been websites, but now it's apps. So the idea is that anybody can
- 48:51go online and download an app, right there might be some therapeutic benefit,
- 48:55there might be some sort of game element to it, there might be quizzes,
- 49:00there might be figuring out are they depressed? How do they feel?
- 49:05So they were just sort of asking young people what they thought about these different
- 49:09types of technologies, and they felt like, well, it's easy to use,
- 49:14it's safe, it's familiar. Because we know young people spend a lot
- 49:17of time generally speaking on their phones. They don't have to talk to anyone,
- 49:22they don't have to disclose anything to anyone that they're not comfortable with.
- 49:25They can talk to maybe somebody they don't know if there is in some cases
- 49:30somebodies have chat features if they want to talk to someone who may or may
- 49:35not be qualified on the other end. Honestly, it might not solve anything.
- 49:40And also we can't really diagnose things, but that doesn't seem to be
- 49:45the point with a lot of these apps. It's not meant to be a
- 49:46diagnosis. But at the same time, there are a few concerns about things
- 49:53that people might disclose that are dangerous. For example, they might give away
- 49:57too much personal information, they might share things where they're really in this into
- 50:02a serious situation with one to take their own life. And are these apps
- 50:07really going to do anything where they really need an actual intervention from a real
- 50:12qualified person to help them. So, just to go back to some of
- 50:16my research, I have lots of research in this area. I've been doing
- 50:20this work since was you. I think my first published paper in this area
- 50:23was two thousand and nine, I believe. So these are just abstracts from
- 50:28two of the papers. And if you want to read the abstracts, I
- 50:30would read this all out to you because I could get a bit boring,
- 50:32a bit academic. But just to say that I found a lot of the
- 50:37same things that I found that would be found and I never had one point
- 50:42eight million pounds to do it. We had a very low budget. Maybe
- 50:45we'd give away a few you know, incentives, a few vectors to spend
- 50:49a little bit of money or something, maybe travel costs, but mostly we
- 50:53did these online over telephone calls and so on. And so we realized that
- 51:00generally speaking, they like them, but they also have limitations. They don't
- 51:05necessarily know that they're available, they don't necessarily know what to do with them,
- 51:07how to use them appropriately. And also particular just to me, was
- 51:13that they don't use the same terms that clinicians use, so that somebody might
- 51:16type into Google if they don't have a diagnosis, I hate my life.
- 51:21I've seen that happen, I hate my life. That's not going to lead
- 51:23them to things that are clinical, assuming that any of these apps are clinical,
- 51:28because a lot of them are not designed with clinicians together. They're just
- 51:31people who thought they should make an app, you know, app designers,
- 51:36developers who say, oh, let's do something for depression and we'll throw it
- 51:37together and we'll put it out on Google Play and see what happens. So
- 51:40they are a bit dangerous. I would say those well that one of another
- 51:45one of my papers around the issue of authority goes back to what I was
- 51:49talking about with Marianna Spring and you know, the idea of what is authoritata
- 51:53piece of information. It might be more authoritative to talk to someone who feels
- 51:58the same layer, has the same condition or health problem, compared to an
- 52:01NHS doctor who you don't want to talk to at all. This was a
- 52:05keynote speech that I gave in twenty eighteen to people in NHS Scotland around policy
- 52:10practice and research in mental health. So this summarizes not only my own or
- 52:15last ten years of research going in and out of this topic, as well
- 52:21as what other people were finding at the time. So I really I find
- 52:25it very very discouraging that this much money has been spent on something that we
- 52:31already knew, and that if they had just given me a phone call they
- 52:35could have found this out for free and not have to spend that much of
- 52:37the taxpayer's money. Yeah. So I do wonder, Diane, why they
- 52:42felt the need to relaunch a new investigation instead of looking at what's already in
- 52:47the scientific literature. Yeah. I mean, the other possibility is that they
- 52:52found my papers. They're all freely available that maybe they found it, and
- 52:54then who knows what they actually did with the one point eight million pounds.
- 52:58But from what I saw the reading the report, the field work, which
- 53:02was the interviews in the focus groups they said they did took place over three
- 53:06months. So I don't know how you spend one point eight million pounds in
- 53:10three months. I really don't know how you do that on actual research costs.
- 53:15So I would like to know where that really meant. Okay, well,
- 53:19thank you for that, Mark. Let's come back to the United States
- 53:22and what's this tenth Circuit Court been up to. Well, this is actually
- 53:30good news, Mike. The tenth and eighth Circuit courts in the US are
- 53:36hitting back against vaccine mandates and related matters. How timely right with the who
- 53:42starting their WHA today. And another thing I'll preface with here, Mike,
- 53:47is that these are the kinds of actions where courts and state legislatures, even
- 53:53county governments, et cetera, make independent decisions medically in terms of informed consent,
- 54:00and they don't force people to take a vaccine, they don't force people
- 54:05to take a PCR test. Things like that. These are the kinds of
- 54:07actions that many people fear the Pandemic Treaty aka Agreement will mitigate against and put
- 54:15everything in a straight jacket and make local and judicial independent actions far more difficult.
- 54:22But anyway, the Tenth Circuit in this matter weighed whether the University of
- 54:28Colorado Medical School's vaccine mandate burden the exercise of religion. It's the case Doe
- 54:34versus Board of Regions at that university, dated May seventh, and so on
- 54:39and so forth. People can read more on the slides about that. We'll
- 54:43move on from there. This is also from the publication Colorado Politics that we
- 54:49started out with for this segment. In a fiery opinion, the Federal Appeals
- 54:53Court based in Denver tore into a pair of COVID nineteen vaccination policy that the
- 55:00University of Colorado imposed on its own medical staff in latter twenty twenty one,
- 55:06and the court concluded they discriminated against certain religions and affected plaintiffs were consequently entitled
- 55:12to exemptions. In the two to one vote in the Tenth Circuit, the
- 55:16all Republican panel of the US Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit directly direct
- 55:22excuse me, directed unusually sharp barbs at each other and at the trial judge
- 55:27who initially declined to block the university's mandates. Judge Allison id or ied Eid,
- 55:34writing for the majority in the two to one decision, believed the policies
- 55:37governing religious exemptions at Colorado University Colorado University Medical Campus were permeated with animus.
- 55:46In other words, there was, you know, a parent animus or things
- 55:52like that. In this next slide, Colorado University quote has not even attempted
- 55:58to explain why it's interest is served by granting exemptions to practitioners of some religions
- 56:04but not others. This is a dissenting opinion. No one contends that Christian
- 56:07scientists are any less likely to contract or spread COVID nineteen than Buddhists, Roman
- 56:13Catholics, or Orthodox Christians, wrote Judge Eyed, an appointee of Donald Trump.
- 56:19But because plaintiffs were the wrong religions, their exemptions were denied. Actually,
- 56:25that was the main opinion against what the university did. It's a little
- 56:31hard to sort out here that the next paragraph Senior Judge David Ebel, a
- 56:37Reagan appointee, not a Trump appointee. Like the first one, he agreed
- 56:40that the Anshutz Campus of University Colorado Medical School. The initial policy requiring employees
- 56:49seeking religious exemptions to show their faith opposed all immunizations. He agreed they were
- 56:54likely unconstitutional, but he disagreed that the revised policy was problematic, and he
- 57:00criticized the majority for accusing the university of discriminatory intent, so he didn't see
- 57:07it as discrimination, whereas the majority did. We're still unpacking this a little
- 57:12bit. Here's what Judge Ebel warned, disagreeing with the majority. I believe
- 57:17it is imprudent and beyond the current record for our court to make emphatic and
- 57:21unsupported findings of animus when it is quite possible that the university was just trying
- 57:27to draft a narrow policy addressing a very specific risk in order to keep his
- 57:30patients and staffs free from a preventable COVID risk at a time of great urgency
- 57:36and uncertainty when COVID was killing so many people receiving medical care. And we'll
- 57:42move on from there as we unpact this and wrap it up, Mike.
- 57:45Another twist in this is the eighth circuit to the east of that it took
- 57:52into account the Mayo clinic, which is in Rochester, Minnesota. It's main
- 57:55clinic anyway, and the Eighth Circuit ruled that the Mayo Clinic must face religious
- 58:01bias claims over COVID nineteen back vaccine policy. The court ruled, and I
- 58:07think we have a little bit more about that. I certainly won't get into
- 58:12this whole thing. I'll just hit the main part of it. A US
- 58:15appeals court on Friday received a lawsuit accusing the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota of illegally
- 58:22firing five employees who refused on religious grounds to receive the COVID vaccine or to
- 58:28be regularly tested for the virus. In this case a unanimous three judge panel,
- 58:32the other one was two to one of the Saint Louis based Eighth Circuit.
- 58:37A Court of Appeals said the judge who tossed out the consolidated lawsuits last
- 58:40year wrongly ruled that the workers had not connected their objections to Mayo's COVID nineteen
- 58:46policies with their sincere Christian religious beliefs. Basically, what it boils down to
- 58:52is, in both cases it came up that the people seeking religious exemptions had
- 58:59to actually point out specific passages in their religions where vaccines could be specifically said
- 59:06to be a bad idea, and this turned out to be an unnecessary burden
- 59:09that didn't have to be met. And so it's good news that rejecting the
- 59:15jab MIC on religious grounds was supported and ruled to be a favorable thing by
- 59:22both circuits. And it's a good trend to see. Just as the WHA
- 59:28is being started there in Geneva, Switzerland. We can only hope that if
- 59:31they consummate a treaty, it will not mitigate against this kind of local,
- 59:37localized decision making at the national and subnational level that would uphold medical choice and
- 59:44informed consent. Yeah, okay, thank you, Mark. We're just going
- 59:47to finish with a couple of very brief items here. First of all,
- 59:51the Daily Base was pushing the side. Twelve people were injured after turbulence struck
- 59:55a Qatar Airways flight from Doahad. The Dublin and Sunday officials confirmed. This
- 1:00:00is all over the mainstream press and again they're taking something which is totally normal
- 1:00:07and making it appear to be abnormal. Just remind everybody what we showed them
- 1:00:09last Wednesday's program. This is from the NTSP, the National Transportation Safety Board.
- 1:00:15It's a paper called Preventing Turbulence Related Injuries in their Carrier Operations conducted under
- 1:00:21Title fourteen, Code of Federal Regulations, Part one twenty one, and they
- 1:00:24absolutely demonstrate that if you look at the dark blue line there there is zero
- 1:00:30trend from between nineteen eighty nine and twenty eighteen in the number of turbulence related
- 1:00:36injuries. So any suggestion by the mainstream press this is somehow related to climate,
- 1:00:42that there are more it's more common for me to be injured is simply
- 1:00:45false. So let's call that a ukc Verify reminder. And we'll just end
- 1:00:52with this because this went out on Twitter today from doctor Simon Goodek. The
- 1:00:59mame saying, virus didn't cancel your medical treatment, destroy your business and raise
- 1:01:04your civil liberties. The government did. And again we put hashtag Independence Day
- 1:01:08on this because it wasn't just the government. It was because the government of
- 1:01:14the day was absolutely supported by the opposition and by well all the opposition parties
- 1:01:20in fact, so there was no opposition within politics to the lockdowns and so
- 1:01:28on. So if we're thinking that there are any solutions in the mainstream parties.
- 1:01:31I think we would be thinking incorrectly. Just keep that in mind and
- 1:01:36do push that hashtag. Let's get some momentum behind it. We'll leave it
- 1:01:40there for today. We'll be back in a few minutes if you're a uk
- 1:01:44CALUN member for some extra Otherwise, don't forget the interview tomorrow, and we'll
- 1:01:50be back for the news on Wednesday at one pm as usual. We'll see
- 1:01:53then, bye bye and set him ra