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- 0:24Hello and welcome to MoneyWi$e on Talking FACS. We share information you can
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- 0:33According to the Pew Research Center, when I was born more than half a century
- 0:37ago, just over 60% of Americans were living in what was called the middle class.
- 0:45And only a little more than 10% were classified as upper income.
- 0:50In 2023, the upper income category grew to almost 20%, and the middle income
- 0:57category had shrunk to just over 50%.
- 1:01On the surface, this might seem to be a good thing, but if you look at real income,
- 1:08you discover that income in the middle and lower levels has not kept pace with
- 1:14income in the upper level, which means that it is increasingly difficult to
- 1:20keep up with rising expenses.
- 1:23My guest today, Dr. Nichole Huff, Assistant Extension Professor for Family Finance
- 1:30and Resource Management, is here to talk about what to do when the ends don't meet.
- 1:37Welcome, Nichole. Hi, Mindy.
- 1:40This is a problem that we're seeing
- 1:42all over today. People just don't have enough money to make ends meet.
- 1:47What are some ways that we can deal with this challenge?
- 1:51Yeah, I think it is. It's becoming more of a challenge for everyone, right?
- 1:56And so, you know, regardless of your income bracket, just the rate of inflation
- 2:02and how slow our economy has been to rebound after the pandemic,
- 2:06but also for prices to come down on just everyday goods and services.
- 2:11And so it is just getting so much harder to stretch that dollar.
- 2:14And so making ends meet, you know, I think that that's a phrase that kind of
- 2:18it arose after the Great Depression days. And so how do you make your ends meet?
- 2:23How do you stretch paycheck to paycheck?
- 2:25And I think many Americans are feeling that today.
- 2:28And so there's generally two ways to balance a budget.
- 2:32And one is to make more money or spend less money.
- 2:36And neither one of those are very easy, but it really comes down to that.
- 2:40And so it is much easier, though, to reduce our expenses than it is to increase our income.
- 2:47You know, many of us are also strapped for time. And so the idea of any more
- 2:52hours in the day to make money can be a challenge.
- 2:55Although, you know, many Americans are getting creative with that,
- 2:58too, with side businesses and the gig economy.
- 3:01And so that's another conversation for another day. But what I think we can
- 3:05talk about in this episode is really what are some of those ways we can reduce our expenses?
- 3:10So great. Where should we start? What are some ways to reduce those expenses?
- 3:15Well, I think we can start by, you know, taking a look at what are our expenses.
- 3:21And so getting them all out in front of you.
- 3:24And this can be hard sometimes to track because we may have digital expenses and digital receipts.
- 3:30And so, you know, we're kind of as a society, we're past the day of just pulling
- 3:34out your checkbook register, right?
- 3:36And so we have to look at what bills are we paying online?
- 3:39When are they coming due? How am I spending my cash? What about all these one-click
- 3:43purchases and Apple Pays and recurring subscriptions?
- 3:48And, you know, it's taking a look at what is everything I'm spending my money on.
- 3:53And so taking a look at those small purchases.
- 3:56So, you know, the drive-through that I just went through or even a hobby.
- 4:02Like we sometimes don't think about our discretionary spending.
- 4:06And so if you're a gardener or a quilter, my mother-in-law is a quilter,
- 4:10and it adds up, you know, fabric and the cost of that hobby can get very expensive.
- 4:15So taking a look at your wants, but then also what are some of those larger expenses, those needs.
- 4:21So these are typically your housing, your medical, your insurance,
- 4:25those bills that aren't really discretionary.
- 4:28And so the first step is let's look at where our money goes.
- 4:32So you mentioned that it's easier to cut back on discretionary expenses because
- 4:38they are wants.
- 4:41But how are we going to cut back on those fixed expenses that are needs?
- 4:47Right. And so you mentioned fixed expenses. And so that's one thing when you're
- 4:51listing your expenses to take a look at.
- 4:54These idea of fixed and variable expenses.
- 4:57So fixed really refers to you know what you're going to be out each month.
- 5:05So your rent or your mortgage payment likely doesn't change each month.
- 5:08So, that is a bill that comes in that you know exactly what to budget for. It is fixed.
- 5:14You know when to expect it. You know exactly how much to expect.
- 5:17The variable expenses may fluctuate.
- 5:20So, you may still have a recurring payment, but it may change.
- 5:24And so, that could be revolving credit. So, if you carry a credit card balance,
- 5:28that could change from month to month.
- 5:31Your utilities, especially your electricity bill. So, you need electricity.
- 5:35You get a bill each month, but it can vary significantly on how much you use
- 5:40your heating and cooling.
- 5:42So it's an essential expense, but it is variable.
- 5:46You don't know how much to budget always. I mean, you can get an average.
- 5:50But ways to look, food is another big category. And so you have to eat.
- 5:55But often there is a lot of variability in how much we spend.
- 5:59And so, we can look at ways to save money, especially on those variable expenses.
- 6:05So, can we wear layers in our house and keep the thermostat set at a reasonable temperature?
- 6:12Can we open windows now that, I don't know, this is probably a false Kentucky
- 6:16spring, but when the temperatures are cool, can we open windows and let breezes
- 6:22come in instead of adjusting our thermostat?
- 6:25You know, when we're running our errands, can we batch those or carpool or just
- 6:29run errands on one day instead of getting out multiple times?
- 6:33Or, you know, make sure if we're already on our way home from work,
- 6:36use that time to stop by the grocery store.
- 6:39But taking a look at what are some ways to cut within those categories,
- 6:44because it doesn't seem like a lot, but small savings really do add up.
- 6:49So there's 52 weeks to a year. If you can cut one of your spending categories
- 6:53by $10, that's $520 for the year.
- 6:56If you can cut weekly spending by $20, that's over $1,000 spending for the year, and so on.
- 7:03So really, those little $10 here or saving $10 on a bill here or there, those really do add up.
- 7:11Well, and it makes you feel good. You know, maybe $10 a week doesn't make you feel really excited.
- 7:17But when you think about it in terms of $500, that's a whole different ballgame.
- 7:22And it's the psychology of saving that really makes a difference,
- 7:25right? Yep. Yeah, absolutely.
- 7:27So when expenses are tight and when money is in short supply,
- 7:33how can we find extra savings?
- 7:36Yeah. Again, making sure we're spending what we have wisely.
- 7:40And so when you are listing your expenses, I always suggest get a blank calendar.
- 7:46And if you don't have one, just make one, right? Like just draw it on a piece
- 7:51of paper and add like 30 squares, like 31 squares.
- 7:54But chart when your money is coming in and when it is going out.
- 7:59Because if you're having trouble making ends meet, maybe don't look at your whole year.
- 8:03Maybe don't look at half of your year. Maybe you'll just look at a month or
- 8:06paycheck to paycheck. And so you can look at, do I have enough of money coming
- 8:11in to cover what I need for until that next payday?
- 8:16And then are certain bills hitting at certain times that are inconvenient?
- 8:21And so most companies, they don't necessarily care when they get paid as long as they get paid, right?
- 8:28And so many, you can go online if you use an online bill management system and
- 8:33you can Log into your account and you can, yourself, without even talking to
- 8:37a customer service representative, change your due date.
- 8:40And so if paying a bill is easier for you at the first of the month or the middle
- 8:45of the month or the end of the month, you may have some flexibility.
- 8:49And so if you can't do it yourself, it's worth reaching out to a customer service
- 8:53department to see if there's any flexibility within that.
- 8:56Because if you can strategize to make sure that the bills that matter most are
- 9:02coming out when you have that money, that's an important strategy is to consider
- 9:07what's coming in, When's it coming in?
- 9:10And then what's going out? And if you have any discretion over that.
- 9:15And then always to, again, going back to unpleasant, making those necessary cuts.
- 9:20And so, you know, what can you cut out?
- 9:24Can you stop buying name brands?
- 9:26Can you not do streaming services or go without cable or cut a gym membership?
- 9:32Or, you know, what can you eliminate for the time being so that you can redirect
- 9:37that money to those essential needs?
- 9:40We talked earlier about our utilities because those are things that we kind
- 9:44of have to live with and they do fluctuate.
- 9:47What about taking advantage of the budgeting services that many of those utilities have?
- 9:53So, you know, if you can't count on your electricity bill being the same amount
- 9:59each month, some of those services will give you a budget bill.
- 10:04Yeah, always check into, again, many times there are creative ways to stretch
- 10:11our dollars and companies will offer programs to assist customers.
- 10:16And so always check into what are some of those options to make sure that you
- 10:20are maximizing all the tools that are available to you. Where can we look to
- 10:24find creative savings strategies?
- 10:27You know, when we started this conversation, we mentioned kind of that this
- 10:31idea of making ends meet.
- 10:33Came from the Great Depression. So let's look to past generations.
- 10:38So when you think to your grandmother, your great-grandmother,
- 10:41how did past generations save money?
- 10:44So they weren't a society driven by consumerism. So they lived within their means.
- 10:50They sold and traded those goods. They borrowed from friends and neighbors instead of buying new.
- 10:57They, you know, really began out of a place of need and necessity implementing
- 11:03those penny-pinching strategies.
- 11:06And so, you know, it is not throwing things away, looking at how you can reuse
- 11:10your resources, shopping your home before you go out.
- 11:14And so this means don't waste, especially food.
- 11:17Food waste is one of America's biggest expenses in terms of wasted money.
- 11:23And so shop your pantry, your freezer, your fridge, Make meals with what you have.
- 11:30Use, repurpose your leftovers. Because when we throw leftovers,
- 11:34for example, or food that's gone bad in the trash can, we are essentially trashing our cash, right?
- 11:41That is money spent going directly in the trash can.
- 11:44And so, you know, it's making banana bread out of ripe bananas, right?
- 11:50It's not wasting food and looking for ways to stretch those resources.
- 11:54You know, I love that saying, a penny saved is a penny earned,
- 11:59because again, it adds up over time.
- 12:02And so if we can't, many times, you know, we can cut expenses,
- 12:06but it doesn't make big dents in our budget.
- 12:11And that is frustrating. It's frustrating when you're looking at the big picture.
- 12:15So what you can do instead is make lots of small savings, because lots of, you know,
- 12:21And say that, I say to my kids all the time, waste not, want not.
- 12:25So we don't throw away something until we have emptied it out.
- 12:29You have an old shirt, turn it into a cleaning rag. You know,
- 12:32what are ways that you can get creative, use what you have, save what you have
- 12:38to make ends meet, right?
- 12:40It's about necessity is the mother of invention, right? Right.
- 12:45Nicole, thank you so much for your time. I think this is a show that people
- 12:49are going to come back to time and time again to re-listen to the tips and strategies
- 12:55that you have shared with us today.
- 12:57And of course, we always hope that they develop new habits and find ways to be money-wise.
- 13:04Thanks, Mindy. If you're just tuning in, you're listening to MoneyWi$e on Talking
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