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Reaction to Fernando Mendoza & Indiana DESTROYING Oregon in CFP Semifinal · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume What is going on? Everybody? John middlecof three
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  Speaker 1: a great weekend and me and Jackson will talk a
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  Speaker 1: little college football from Fernando Mendoza, Dante more Signetti to
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on tonight,
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  Speaker 1: so excited to talk a little college football. Jackson. Listen.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen Indiana against Alabet. I think we all chocked
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  Speaker 1: it up. Okay, Alabama's not that good. Obviously, Oregon had
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  Speaker 1: some running back issues. They have some injuries, but they
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  Speaker 1: treated in the night like they were playing UC Davis
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  Speaker 1: Week two, you know, in a game that no one's
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  Speaker 1: paying attention to in Bloomington. That was these last two games.
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  Speaker 1: You'd go the last three games the Ohio State win,
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  Speaker 1: but that was a true football game, right, It was
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  Speaker 1: a slugfest. They pulled it out. It was biggest winning
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  Speaker 1: program history. These last two weeks, it's felt like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, peak Bama. I update myself. Maybe Urban Meyer
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  Speaker 1: at Florida, Pete Carroll at USC they obliterate. And the
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  Speaker 1: difference is comparing Indiana to those teams. Those teams were
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  Speaker 1: littered with just first and second rounders. You remove Fernando Mendoza.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I talked to people in the NFL. They're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: they got Sarad the running back, the corner, the pick six,
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  Speaker 1: the left tackle. It's viewed as a guard. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they got a handful of guys that are gonna get
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  Speaker 1: drafted third, fourth, fifth round. The linebacker viewed more like
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  Speaker 1: a You know, I think this is gonna sound bad,
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  Speaker 1: just a guy, but talk about a late round pick
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  Speaker 1: or an undrafted free agent. This is not Georgia three
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  Speaker 1: years ago, where ten of their starters on defense are
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  Speaker 1: gonna get drafted in the first two rounds. So I
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  Speaker 1: think when you factor in the lack of five Stars
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  Speaker 1: Signetti with the Google me it's it's been incredible to
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  Speaker 1: witness and tonight piggybacking off Alabama is truly one of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest ass kicking two game stretches. Now, we haven't
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  Speaker 1: had the playoffs for two years, and who knows, maybe
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  Speaker 1: we'll see this again. But I am all I can
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  Speaker 1: do is be like, holy shit, this team is good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I looked up the CFP history to see, like,
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  Speaker 2: what was the biggest blowout in the college ball playoff
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  Speaker 2: and this was obviously what thirty four points? Thirty five
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  Speaker 2: points was the Peach Bowl with LSU and Oklahoma back
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  Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, And it feels like those teams,
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  Speaker 2: obviously they're gonna get the comparisons about who's better twenty
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  Speaker 2: nineteen LSU or twenty twenty five Indiana. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: the answer because of this the star studded talent NFL
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  Speaker 2: prospects of twenty nineteen LSU. But I do think if
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  Speaker 2: you were to remove the logo of Indiana and put
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  Speaker 2: an Alabama logo on there, then you have that discussion.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just remarkable, Like they had the whole piece
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  Speaker 2: beforehand about all these guys coming from JMU and how
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  Speaker 2: they were so underrecruited for the portal, and you've got
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  Speaker 2: these guys, even the running backs tonight, not black, but
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  Speaker 2: Hemby was a three star back coming out of the
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  Speaker 2: transfer portal, fifteenth running back. They grabbed him, and then
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  Speaker 2: you see the guys that they're grabbing today.
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  Speaker 1: In the last couple of weeks. Where did he come from?
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  Speaker 2: He came from Maryland, So he was a four year
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  Speaker 2: starter at Maryland, played forty nine snaps, So I mean
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  Speaker 2: forty nine starts, I should say, just a productive back.
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  Speaker 2: But to have those two guys eleven and fourteen on
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  Speaker 2: third down, I mean, you just get more and more
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  Speaker 2: impressed by this team. They're just so they say it
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  Speaker 2: all the time, Simon perfect, fundamentally sound. But to be
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  Speaker 2: able to develop these guys that quick, like I haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen anything like it. And even you know, the broadcasters
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  Speaker 2: Greg Macker I said it was one of the best fundamental,
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  Speaker 2: fundamentally sounded teams that he's ever broadcasted. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: you followed the sport for a long long time than me.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that there's an argument to saying that
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  Speaker 2: because this team just doesn't make mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: Well offensively, that they feel like a well oiled NFL
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  Speaker 1: machine because they can run the ball down your throat,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a lot like Miami, right, they could physically
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  Speaker 1: dominate you at the point of attack and run the
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  Speaker 1: ball at you with multiple backs. Hemby is really good.
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  Speaker 1: The back of Black who I mean tonight had outrushed him.
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  Speaker 1: He's a really he's a good player too, So I
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  Speaker 1: mean that they're one two punch at running back is
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  Speaker 1: high level for college football. Again, this isn't Jeremiah Love right,
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  Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. These guys aren't gonna be John Robinson. But
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  Speaker 1: both of them are going to get shots in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Especially I think henb will be late round pick on
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  Speaker 1: drafted free agent, but undrafted free agents make teams all
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  Speaker 1: the time. The difference between them and Miami is they're
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  Speaker 1: well rounded passing game. You know, Mendoz is a better
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  Speaker 1: player than Carson Beck. But they got three wide receivers, right,
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  Speaker 1: so rot who's going to play in the NFL for sure?
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  Speaker 1: And Becker has really really come on tonight. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if that's a better throw, better catch, just a
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  Speaker 1: great play, right, that's ideal pitch and catch. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's the guy. It's not like it was terrible. It's
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  Speaker 1: not like a tripped I mean he's right there, his
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  Speaker 1: hands up. It just doesn't get a better throw. And
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  Speaker 1: obviously Cooper is just you feel like makes plays in
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  Speaker 1: the red zone. He he's just I mean, so him
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  Speaker 1: being healthy, which he got injured right in that Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State game. The first series, they feel like a well
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  Speaker 1: balanced attack on offense and then defensively. What did they
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  Speaker 1: mentioned in tonight the defensive coordinator when he first I
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  Speaker 1: mean both the coordinators started working for Signeto. I think
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  Speaker 1: what's cool is part of Sabin or Pete Carroll or
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  Speaker 1: urban Meyer. They started getting these, especially Sabin and Pete Carroll,
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  Speaker 1: these really famous coordinators. Back when I was young, when
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  Speaker 1: you were Blake five, Pete used to have guys like
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  Speaker 1: obviously he had Laine and Sark who were in their twenties,
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  Speaker 1: but he had like Norm Ch I mean, he had
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  Speaker 1: some really well known older guys. Sabin forever had famous
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  Speaker 1: guys being coordinators, former head coaches like Mario is known
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  Speaker 1: to the Sabing guy. It's because Mario had coached like
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  Speaker 1: Fau and failed and then went to Nick. Right Lane
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  Speaker 1: had been at USC then goes to Nick. So Signetti's
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  Speaker 1: doing with these two guys who have worked for him
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  Speaker 1: the entire time. The defensive coordinator was making like six
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars at their first stop and was on food
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  Speaker 1: stamps and then they're like, yeah, you just signed a
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  Speaker 1: contract three million dollars a year, three years, nine million
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  Speaker 1: deark contract the offensive coordinator. Maybe he gets cause I
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  Speaker 1: start thinking, how does the offense the defensive coordinator and
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  Speaker 1: not make the same amount? Maybe because Signetti's an offensive guy,
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  Speaker 1: even though to me, at least from the outside, he
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  Speaker 1: feels much more like, I don't know, like the CEO
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  Speaker 1: of the entire operation, Like I envisioned him talking with
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  Speaker 1: the defensive guys, the offensive guys, but his baby's the
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  Speaker 1: offense clearly, and both of those guys, Mike Shanahan, you
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  Speaker 1: see those guys with the walkie talkies. This is the
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  Speaker 1: difference if their logo, let's just pick the conference was Oregon,
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  Speaker 1: was Penn State, was Michigan, Ohio State and they had
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  Speaker 1: the same success for two years. How have both those
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  Speaker 1: guys not gotten ten interviews?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna ask you, because like, what's
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  Speaker 2: the Because on the flip side of it, you got
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  Speaker 2: Will Stein, who's gonna be the new coach at Kentucky,
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  Speaker 2: and then you got toshwall Poy who's gonna go to
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  Speaker 2: cow And I'm not disminishing them as bad coaches. They're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be transitioning fine, and they've had great times in
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  Speaker 2: great tenures at Oregon. But I'm shocked that they don't
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  Speaker 2: even get an interview at think we're like a drum.
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  Speaker 1: To night by those two guys. Now, Tosh and Will.
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  Speaker 1: Tosh has been famous for a long time. He played
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  Speaker 1: for Tedford transition and became like one of Tedford's like
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  Speaker 1: Mario Christobal for Saban for Tedford back in the late
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  Speaker 1: two thousands, getting dudes Marshawn, DeShawn, Cameron Jordan like they
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  Speaker 1: were producing and then and then he works for Saban.
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  Speaker 1: So Tosh has been a very famous kind of name
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  Speaker 1: in the cycle, and he got hired at his alma mater.
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  Speaker 1: I would say, Will Stein, he's been a relatively famous
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  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator now for several years. At let's face it
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  Speaker 1: a sexier program, well not now, I mean Indiana's the
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  Speaker 1: sexiest program going. So I would say going into next year,
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  Speaker 1: even if I'm not gonna bet on them taking a
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  Speaker 1: step back, but let's just say they go nine to
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  Speaker 1: three next year. After winning, let's say they win the
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  Speaker 1: national championship. You have to interview these two guys because
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  Speaker 1: they've worked with this guy who feels much more like
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  Speaker 1: he's a drill sergeant for the Navy Seals than he does.
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  Speaker 1: Like even Saban was pretty unique personality on the sideline,
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  Speaker 1: he does not show very much emotion like he's and
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  Speaker 1: clearly it's his age. I listen, anytime that you have
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  Speaker 1: to go through the mud to get where you're at,
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  Speaker 1: I think you have perspective like this is how old's
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  Speaker 1: Dan Lanning?
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  Speaker 2: My forty years old?
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  Speaker 1: My age? Yeah, you know he pretty quick riser. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what year is this nowt Oregon? For before that he
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  Speaker 1: was Kirby's DC. Like he's been living the charm life
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  Speaker 1: throughout his thirties, right. I know it's hard for him early,
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  Speaker 1: but to dad, he's sixty four years old. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of time at IUPI or wherever the hell he was.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously JMU was going pretty well. But even when you
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  Speaker 1: kick acid JMU, no one's discussing you. On college game day,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you get a blurb, right, but so what he's
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  Speaker 1: done in his name in this program, But again, you
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  Speaker 1: just watch them play. I think going into the NFL playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the Jags. I don't think there's just a team
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  Speaker 1: in football college or the NFL that's just playing as
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  Speaker 1: complete football as them defense. Offensively, they blocked the punt tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what are they not doing well? It's it's
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  Speaker 1: shocking when they had to punt shocking, and you could
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  Speaker 1: tell they kind of got conservative right started running the
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  Speaker 1: ball in the second half. So is he are they
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  Speaker 1: truly pushing the pedal to the metal, like running crazy plays?
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  Speaker 1: Like the game you were at last night, Every third
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  Speaker 1: and five was make or break in the game. So
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  Speaker 1: you're running your best plays. You come out a halftime
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  Speaker 1: up thirty five to seven. I mean, when your defense
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  Speaker 1: is good, it's going to be basically impossible to beat you.
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  Speaker 1: But that was I don't know if I didn't respect them,
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  Speaker 1: because it's impossible not to when you blow out a
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  Speaker 1: playoff team as they did in Alabama. Even if Alabama's down,
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  Speaker 1: I'll blow it away. After tonight, that first half is
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the most impressive things I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic, but
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  Speaker 1: factoring in the stars and listen, it's not I was
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  Speaker 1: at Fresno State. If you go back to the teams,
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  Speaker 1: I was a part of an eight h nine. We
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  Speaker 1: would have had fifteen guys getting poached by Texas USC
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  Speaker 1: multiple guys that would have got seven figures. So just
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  Speaker 1: because you're not a five star guy, that doesn't determine.
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  Speaker 1: But to just take all these guys and kick everyone
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  Speaker 1: ascid at the highest level is is a crazy experience
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  Speaker 1: as a viewer.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was crazy too, just to see the
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  Speaker 2: buy in from Indiana, how fast it was. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was a home game in Atlanta and we were
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  Speaker 2: texting beforehand. You know, it's the National champions is going
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  Speaker 2: to be in Miami. The tickets like three thousand dollars,
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  Speaker 2: the cheapest one thing thirty two thirty two hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 2: what you sent. I wouldn't be shocked. I know it's
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  Speaker 2: in Miami, and Miami actually showed out well last night
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  Speaker 2: against Ole miss I wanted to be shocked. If Indiana
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  Speaker 2: had what sixty forty at that game, fifty.
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  Speaker 1: Five going to like, don't got a factor in two things.
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  Speaker 1: They have more alumni. Miami's a smaller school WRI It's private,
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  Speaker 1: smaller private school, number one alumni base in the country.
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  Speaker 1: It was coming out and most of the schools are
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  Speaker 1: the big ten schools because they're huge, ASU sleeper. It
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  Speaker 1: was like five, and Indiana's just it's a good school,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of successful people. My guess is that number.
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  Speaker 1: When's the game next Monday, by next weekends close to five.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be huge.
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  Speaker 2: We gotta wait eleven days for the National Championship.
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  Speaker 1: Which is good because my I saw Mario. I think
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  Speaker 1: their teams kind of beat up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, they're really beat up. Now they're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: have They're in trouble. They're in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they are in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: In their defensive line. Two against Ole Miss was pretty quiet,
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  Speaker 2: which I'm looking forward to obviously. You know, we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about Miami Indiana, just to see that defensive line against
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  Speaker 2: his Indiana offensive line. I just don't know offensively for
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  Speaker 2: Indiana what they're bad at. I do not understand what
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  Speaker 2: they're bad at. He's a good decision maker. They had
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  Speaker 2: five penalties, which I think is one of the more
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  Speaker 2: higher penalty games they've had in the last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, five is not horrible, but compared to the
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  Speaker 2: most of the games they play, I think it's like
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  Speaker 2: two or three or four. But yeah, the emergency Becker.
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  Speaker 2: It also didn't help that Dante Moore at three turnovers.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that pick six, that first play, yikes, and
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  Speaker 2: then the two fumbles with the exchange with the running back,
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  Speaker 2: and you know they obviously have running back issues because
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  Speaker 2: Lamar hits the portal. Two days ago, Davison gets his
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  Speaker 2: claviical broken against Texas Tech, even though he still played.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how he played with the broken clavicle.
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  Speaker 2: When that happened, Hill looked off, no no wah. Winnington,
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  Speaker 2: their first leading running back had turf toe, and they
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  Speaker 2: showed his bandage on the sideline. It looked like you
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  Speaker 2: didn't even have a cleat on, like his bandage was
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  Speaker 2: so big. But regardless of that, like we saw them
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  Speaker 2: beat Texas Tech. You saw the line up three points
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  Speaker 2: and I'm right, like, you're right. It's one of the
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  Speaker 2: more impressive things. And they made Dante Moore look really right.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about the two quarterbacks because I think
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  Speaker 1: going into this game, Fernando Mendoza was a consensus number
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  Speaker 1: one overall pick. He's bigger, he's more accurate, and he's
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  Speaker 1: got a lot more experience. I think tonight the Raiders
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  Speaker 1: general manager was in the house. I don't even think
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  Speaker 1: it's a question. Now, I'm not putting everything on more
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  Speaker 1: the last two weeks. I mean that their team is
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  Speaker 1: not as good as India's Super easy. He's not. It's
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  Speaker 1: not apples to apples. Their offensive line clearly he's not
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  Speaker 1: playing that well. Their wide receivers are questionable. Their running
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  Speaker 1: back situation was a joke to start with the pick six.
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  Speaker 1: He ain't the first and the last guys throwing a
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  Speaker 1: pick six. Peyton Manning threw a pick six in Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like end the guy's career. But one
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  Speaker 1: thing you see with Fernando Mendoza, it kind of hit
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  Speaker 1: me in to night because I know Daniel Jeremiah throughout
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  Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, people been throwing to me Matt Ryan wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a good athlete, right, And Fernando Mendoza and his col
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  Speaker 1: background Jared Goff. When you look back, Jared Goff was
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  Speaker 1: a pure pocket passer. Now, the world was a lot
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  Speaker 1: different when he came out in twenty fourteen or fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: But I think Fernando Mendoza, like Matt Ryan, like Jared Goff,
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  Speaker 1: similar arm. I mean good arm, not great on drive
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  Speaker 1: throws that I think his last touchdown even McElroy was like, God,
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  Speaker 1: that was a dot. You know he can drive it,
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  Speaker 1: but he's got great touch, great accuracy, and he throws
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  Speaker 1: a very nice deep boll. I mean he's proven that
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  Speaker 1: the last three weeks, right, his deep ball, that big
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  Speaker 1: game at Ohio State, multiple big deep shots tonight. That
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  Speaker 1: deep ball was a thing of beauty in contested areas too.
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  Speaker 1: Like NFL people, whether you're playing Oregon or whether you're
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: playing a D two team, they don't give a shit
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  Speaker 1: when you hit wide open people because that's anyone should
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  Speaker 1: be able to hit a wide open guy. It's contested catches.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's the level of you know, Matt Ryan
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  Speaker 1: was a third pickoff, but he's a way better athlete.
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  Speaker 1: You saw him tonight run multiple times. He had the
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  Speaker 1: one where he fumbled, he did the I think the
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  Speaker 1: only reason did that the three sixty is because he
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  Speaker 1: kind of got bumped off the spot, so he just
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  Speaker 1: kind of continued.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's that was like.
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  Speaker 1: His go to move. But to me, he's not some
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: all time great prospect because he doesn't, you know, Caleb
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: physically like talent wise or John Elway. His traits aren't
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: like elite elite, but he's a really really good prospect
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: and when you watch him play tonight, he's just in
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: complete control. Like his game. All the Shanahan type guys,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Kyle McVeigh, Lafleur, Kevin O'Connell, they would love this guy.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: And he you know, Stefanski, the boots, the waggles, the accuracy,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: and then every once in a while he's got to
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: make a play on your own. I think he's a
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: really really good number one overall pick. And if I
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: was a Raider fan and they got a lot of
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: them that are down and out because their team's been
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: so crappy, I'd be really excited. Like the high level guy,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: he's big, solid, arm, accurate, ton of playing, experience, smartest shit,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: clearly well liked by his teammates. Competitive. I mean, Mario,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: who's you'd argue is the best recruiter in the country.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Hell SIGs right up there now too, they're recruiting a
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: little different kid. You know, Mario was on this guy.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Now turns out he knew his dad plays dad in
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: high school. But like, would they have taken Fernando? I'm
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: sure he's gonna get asked about it this week, Like
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: was it if he would have said, I'll come to
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Miami over Indiana and now play with my brother, would
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: you have taken Fernando Mendoza over Beck. Now he's not
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: even if he would have, he's not gonna admit that
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: this week he needs Carson. But I do wonder inside
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: the meeting, like Mario and his OC, who would they
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: want it out of the two guys. I don't know.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: In fairness, Fernando was not viewed like this accal so
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: no one, but this happens a lot. You go back
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: to Joe Burrow. Listen. I actually think Joe Burrow, Joe
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Burrow's a great example, not great physical traits, He's just
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: an excellent player. I talked about this last night with
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Tony as I was thinking about this today. Some people
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: on Earth and whether it's obviously in sports, there are
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: god given talents you need. You can't play wide receiver
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: if you're slow and fat, right, so you gotta be athletic,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: you gotta have some speed traits. But clearly, whether he
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: played backyard football as a kid developed it. I don't
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: know playing soccer basketball like just the open feel. His
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: instincts to play football are elite. Tony was born to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: play football. He could play in an NFL game right now,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: because I'm not saying he'd be like an All pro
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: as an eighteen year old, but like his understanding of football,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: you go from that Notre Dame game to where he
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: that now he's so much more comfortable playing against higher
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: It's like, God, he was like, I'm the best player
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: on the field. And you see Mendoza like his instincts
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: very very natural and a lot of instincts. And it's
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: like this in any industry. Some people, whether it's the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: training they've had from youth, they whenever they get to
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: the spot where they got to perform, they are just
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: way better than whoever they're going up against. And this
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: goes for I think any industry, and Tony last night,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: you just see it. Fernando Mendoza like guy was kind
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: of born to play quarterback in like an NFL style offense,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: because that's what it looks like. It looks like an
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: NFL team, and he's kind of the orchestrator I thought
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: tonight he was. He looked like an NFL player and
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the other guy who has shit going against him, I think, really,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you go back these last two games because listen, Texas
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: texts quarterback not any good. That's why they're paying a
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: ton of money. You see that they got a text
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: tech has a gift Cincinnati million dollars to buy the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: kid out.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Oh I didn't see they had a.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Million dollar buyout. You know how Williams is going back now,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: But if he had left, they were gonna do a
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: buy the We're gonna have to pay.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: They're gonna pay a buyout just to get them.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: So that's what they're willing to do to improve their course.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's easy. That's a little chat.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Just sh there, you go, here's a million and here's
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: five for the player. Just I just thought he looked
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: overwhelmed the wrung. It's just really difficult. He just looks
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: like a college player. And that's what the Jets would
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: look like all season long. And the difference is it
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: can derail your career. For every Sam Darnold. I think
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Troy Aikman talked about this on the Monday Night game
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: or a week ago. A lot of guys get just
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: destroyed and you aren't able to overcome it. And Dante
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: more like, you get five million dollars to go back
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: or whatever your team's loaded. Uh my recommendation because clearly money,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: you're gonna make money either way. I and a lot
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: of people have been saying this. I think he would
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: benefit a lot from going. I think it get ugly.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: He could have one of those rookie seasons where it
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: could be it could be really, really bad, and I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: think he you'd have to question watching him play these
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: last two games, is he just some locktop five pick.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: You're kind of betting on the come and the potential
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of like this, what it's gonna be. Where I'm not
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: betting on anything in Fernando. I just want Fernando to
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: play like he's playing and obviously the natural improvement. But
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: to me more watching these last two weeks's pretty risky.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: And you know, I think if you're Oregon in a
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: weird way, you're kind of lucky because now he might,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you know, like just come back. But I think Fernando separate.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: He was already separated, but clearly separated at night, and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: now I think the conversation goes, hey, Dante, come back.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: And I think I wonder if that's why Ty Simpson,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: because I'm sure he could have made millions starting for somebody.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Right even if he was leaving Alabama, but he's also too.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: It's weird because of Tie that he according to his dad,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: he didn't get a report that it was gonna be
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: a second round. He's gonna be a first round guy.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Also, Carson Beck declared, cam Wore declared, I hope he
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: doesn't go through with it. The way he's talking in
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: the video. He even posted that he's going to go
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: through it. That seems like a mistake for his long
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: term NFL career. I agree with you for Dante more
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: and he could be one of those things you're saying.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Ty Simpson's dad said that they got to report that
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: he's going to be a first rounder. Yeah, that he
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: didn't get a second rounder, But I don't know if
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: it was through you would know the name of the
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: people that they go through to get those reports. Blessedo
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: or never really said the name of who they got
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: the advice from. So that's kind of suspect too. But
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: when you're talking about back to Mendoza, I was gonna
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: ask you this question because you know, friends talk a
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: lot a lot of times about Mendoza being a one
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: read guy or being in an RPO offense and only
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: being on a one side field read. What would your response,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Because to me, I see that, but I also see,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: to your point, an instinctive guy where he knows where
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to go with the football. It doesn't seem like he
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: goes to his first read and it's not there and
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: he's flustering with his eyes. He goes to his first
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: read and it's always there. So what would your argument
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: be to that in terms of the RPO offense translating
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: into the NFL, not necessarily the Raiders, but just in
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: terms of you know.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I thought there were times tonight where he went off
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: his first read to another guy. The last touchdown I
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: thought was not his first read in the back of
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the end zone.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: the same thing. Carson Beck had some moments last night.
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  Speaker 1: These are experienced players that yeah, I mean they have
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: better players than a lot of times their opponents, So
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: they can just go to their first thread. It's gonna work.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: But I see the guy scanning the field and like,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: is it NFL in terms of like, yeah, your first
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: receiver is gonnaet taken away a lot. You know that
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: he can trust Win, Serat or Becker is the number
• 25:32
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• 25:32
  Speaker 2: He can go to them.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: But I think, to me, part of that is football
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: IQ and the ability to, like, as you get thrust
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: more and more in those situations, how you go to that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Cousins went on that rant how the NFL used to
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: be consistent defenses you just focus on half the field
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and just listen to what the coach calls. That's completely
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: changed because everyone muddies the water with defense, and so
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: now it's be like a progression league. You basically go he'
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: said one to five, but I mean most people probably
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: going like one to three then check down or whatever.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: He clearly to me has that style.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Honestly, Bet Carson watching Carson Beck last night on TV
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: on some slow motion stuff. He's doing that sometimes too,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: because how do you get more comfortable? That's the hardest
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: part of the sport, right, Well, how do you accomplish
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the hardest thing of whatever you're doing, You do it more.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Those guys have played a lot of football, and you
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: saw Dante Moore, who has not played that much.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I don't count his first year at UCLA.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: It was a joke. By that point in time, Chip
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Kelly was in full mail it in mode and he
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: got thrust in because they had injuries. He was not
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: supposed to play. So it's like that was a disaster
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: throwing picks sixes left and right. This was his first
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: year really starting. And honestly, if we break it down,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: like they did play some easy games because the Big
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Ten on the lower end was bad. So in some
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: of his big games he only has so many variance
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: against good teams Tech Indiana, Indiana. Again, they didn't play
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: in the Big Ten championship Washington, Right, it was.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Solid, but I would say they were.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: They were a nine and three team that was, you know,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: was farther away from the playoffs than closer to it.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, USC wasn't very good on defense, So
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I would say that I just have a lot more
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: question marks. And anytime you have a lot of question
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: marks when it comes to a quarterback who's young, that's
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: where you can get in some weird situations, like to me,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: he comes back, wouldn't you immediately have him as a
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: top two or three like Heisman front runner and a
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: guy that is a potential number one overall pick in
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven Historically, you know, I think you know
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: back before when guys could pay under the table and
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: guys like him would stay right because he'd be a
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: red shirt junior next year. But now there is pressure.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I get it and start your clock. But the problem
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: with starting your clock is he's already a multi millionaire,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and any quarterback that's gonna go high, you should be thinking,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a long career, right, I'm gonna be
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: even I'm not Mahomes, I'm gonna be Jared Goff, Dak Prescott,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, I'm gonna get multiple contracts and be a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: decade long start. Derek Carr make hundreds of millions of dollars.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: If you told me Dante Moore went to the Jets,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, I would bet against it working and
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: it could just get really ugly and listen, same thing
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: could happen to Mendoza. And that's where I think there's
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of pressure, and I think the
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: conversation is gonna come up and we can talk about
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Sig as well. It's like, should Sig go to the NFL?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: See that a lot? He makes like over twelve million dollars.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: He is his own GM like any player on that
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: roster he picks. He hasn't had to lose a coordinator
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: since he was at some school that no one could
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: point out on a map twenty years ago or fifteen years.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: He's had these two kids forever. I think they're both
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: in their late thirties and he's absolutely rolling. He's gonna
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: win the National championship and he's sixty four years old
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: with and I. He's got Mark Cuban giving him money
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: to fund the team, and multiple other rich guys. So
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: like if I'm John spy Tech. I would. I'm sure
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: if Tom Brady's like, we need to talk to this guy.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I don't blame any NFL team for wanting to talk
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: to him, But what can you offer him? It's like, okay,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: he can give him a couple more million dollars. He's
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: already so rich, like at this point in time, he
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: clearly he was working for nothing for most of his career,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: right relative to coaches. So he's not driven by money, no,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: no way. And now he's to sign a one hundred
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: million dollar contract. But he'd have to answer to people
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: like if let's say John Spytech wanted to hire him,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, John Spija picks the players, right
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and or whoever? And I got to answer to the owner.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Who's he answering to it? Indiana, He's he's like a god.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: He answers to nobody. He's like they're saban. His job,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: if they have the money to pay the players, is
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: as good as an NFL job. The top jobs in
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: college if you're rolling with nil, are NFL jobs because
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you run, you run the payroll, you pick the players.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Even if you have a quote unquote GM all the
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: big time like Kirby Smart doesn't answer to his GM.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: The GM answers to him, Dan Lanning. The GM answers
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: to Dan Lanning. Right. So, to me, SIGG has a
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: better job than any NFL job when you have to
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: work for a GM, and it's pretty risky. He's never
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: coached in college or I mean in the pros, so
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: he's a lifetime college guy. I don't think I think
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: you get in trouble in life when you know. Colin
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: used to have this saying back in his ESPN radio days,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: like don't try to make happier happy, you know, or
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I fuck that up. It's like happy happier you know. Basically,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the grass isn't always green, slate, I haven't been drinking,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I promise the Basically the grass isn't always greener. And
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: when you got something really really good, you kind of
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: got to ride it like secretariat. To me, he's he's
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: already turned down like Penn State and stuff. To me,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Indiana is a better job than NFL jobs when you
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: work for yourself. Essentially, Yeah, he wants to form his
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: own Alabama. He wants to prove everyone wrong, which he
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: already has. But on top of that, you're already getting
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: more transfer portal guys. He's been one of the more
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: coaches that hasn't really complained about this whole college football
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: and being how older he is, it's pretty impressive that
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: he's investing in NIL, he's vesting in the portal and
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: even recruiting these guys because there's a lot of older
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: guys that you know, haven't really adapted to that and
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: their schools are falling behind, like in Alabama that's trying
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to get more funding and stuff like that too. But
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I agree, especially with the openings that they have in
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: the NFL, I don't know if you're gonna I mean,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you would know more than this. The discussion the other
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: day about if college coaches would go up to an
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: NFL opening because the NFL, I don't want to say
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: potential candidates isn't as great as it was last year
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: with Ben Johnson, Liam Cohen and obviously that's a tough
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: group to you know, is be after.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I just yeah, I agree, I think it would be better.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I think the job specifically is the Raiders because he'd
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: get to just go with Mendoza, but they have spy
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Tech who has worked his whole career, and you help
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: build the Bucks to get this job. Like part of
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: being a GM is you pick the players, and you
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: got Brady above him. You just got There's a lot
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: going on in NFL teams. Owners tell you what to do.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: It's like, no one's none of these guys cutting checks
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: as long as you're rolling. No one told Saban what
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: to do for fifteen years, right. No one tells Dan
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Hurley what to do at Yukon. No one tells these
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: guys that are rolling like Sar gets pressure. That's what
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: happens when you don't win. He wins the national championship.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: To me, he'd be untouchable for forever at Indiana. Now,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: you could also make the argument, it doesn't get any
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: better than this, So you could strike while the irons
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: hot and just take your shot and you could always
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: come back in a couple of years if it failed.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: But he just didn't. He just sign because when they
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: were talking about Mendoza, when he said, my brother's gonna
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: be really good next year, didn't they just sign a
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: quarterback in the transferporter Like Mendo's brother's not gonna start
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: next year.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Josh Hoover TCU, he's in one of the top quarterbacks.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: He was kind of at one point gonna be a
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: first round pick. This year. He kind of fell off
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: towards the back end of the season, but he's gonna start.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: He's more tall.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: They just signed Indiana.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got the number one wider, number one or
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: number four wide receiver, Nick Marsh. They got a three
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: star guy to Boston College that had a lot of
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: reps over there, that's a stud. They got an edge
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: rusher from k State. They got a bunch of more
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: defensive line. Yeah, they're not going anywhere, But I was
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: to your point about Signetti out.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Like they're they're a pre even with losing the number
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: one pick and Surat and some of these guys, if
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: they win it, even though they have a brand new
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: team that they're a preseason what top five.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked at their schedules.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: They play Season one.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: They play Ohio State, USC and Michigan are their toughest games.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: So they're not playing Oregon, you're not playing old Penn State.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: I guess they're kind of down, but they used to
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: be one of the powers of the Big Ten. Maybe
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: they'll be even better next year with all those still
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: be better next year. I think Iowa State players, but
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: in terms of Signetty. I want to ask you this
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: him in Indiana, I know that's one of the greatest
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: turnarounds in college football. Where would you rank this turnaround
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: in terms of sports? The only other one I could
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: think of would be the Pats and the Patriots with
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Bill Belichick. But the quick turnaround with a team like
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Indiana doing that is just I feel like it's the
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: greatest turnaround we've seen in sports personally.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And they're gonna make another Hoosiers movie.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Which honestly might be better than the first one because
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: no one even saw this coming one hundred and fifty
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: to one preseason to win the national championship. That's ridiculous.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's the greatest. You want a little confession here.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Never seen Hoosiers, probably never will, but I'll watch the
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: football version. Yeah, it'd be like a lot of times
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: in pro sports when it turns around. Let's use the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Patriots for example. They found this kid in the sixth
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: round named Tom Brady, and they had a bunch of
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: guys on the roster that you know, Mike Vrabel had
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: been a backup special teams practice squad guy from the Steelers.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: They just had random guys and then it just kind
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: of comes together because Brady and Belichick, the Warriors. You know,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: when Steph Curry got there, the Warriors were basically like
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, I mean, with less recent history than
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals. I mean the Cardinals what they went to
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Game in like fourteen or thirteen fifteen maybe,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: and they went to a Super Bowl and eight. The
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Warriors were dog shit most of the eighties, definitely, most
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: of the nineties, all the two thousands, and one guy
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: completely changed your franchise. Lebron did that in It happens
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: in basketball if you get the right guy. I don't
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: think there's really a parallel to this. It's also hard
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: to parallel college sports to what we do now. But
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been possible what he's doing. He could
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: have got Mendoza because he could have been a grad transfer,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: right because he had his degree. But all the other guys,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: like the Mayor, I guess the Maryland kid might have
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: been a grad transfer too. But some of the guys
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: you're taking from the MAC or whatever, they would have
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to sit out of here. And that goes for all
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: these teams. You know, Miami's no different that they take
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: portal guy. All these good teams take portal guys, right,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Keewan Lacy, I had forgotten. I was looking last night
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the stud running back the Missouri has. They got him
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: to replace Lacey because Lane stole him. So it's it's
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: just a weird time. But he's just done it so
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: much better. And also unlike Lane, I guess they get
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: credit because of Trinidad, but it feels like Indiana's got
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: like ten Trinidads, doesn't it. That's what's the cool part
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: that that's what the awesome part about last night. For
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: a split second, when he thought this Division two quarterback's
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: going to take this team to the playoffs, that that
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I would have said, that's one of the coolest stories
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: in the history of college football. But also it's not
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: really it wasn't even I guess you could always go
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: from like D two or D one double A straight up,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: you didn't have to sit out. You just couldn't transfer
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: D one to D one without sitting out a year.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: So like when I was at President State, we got
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: a guy from Oregon, he had to sit out a year.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: But you could take a guy from D one Double
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: A or D two and they could come right to you.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: So technically, Trinidad ten years ago could have done the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: same thing, but they wouldn't have been looking right. You didn't.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: You didn't scout the country for available players like you
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: do in the NFL until the last couple of years.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's remarkable. I don't know.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I just don't even think there's a parallel to it, really.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, you see it in pro sports, but then
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: you look back, it's like, oh, yeah, the Giants sucked
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: and then they got Willie Mays you know where It's
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: like they got Buster Posey and Tim Linskomb's like the
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: hall of famers that happens in pro sports all the time.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: In college, it's just sometimes you get lightning in a bottle,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: and we've had individual moments like Auburn they get Cam
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Boom win the national championship, but it was just one
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: year over and then a couple of years later what's
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: his name, chiswicks fire. You know, just this feels more sustainable.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think there's.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: It's hard to compare it to years past, pre nil
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: or transfer portal.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's impossible to compare to your point about
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: this wouldn't even exist when you're talking about Trinidad.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Chaandliss. When I was at media day for the Festa
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: bow and I asked him, I was like, how did
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: you get recruited to the SEC? Because if you're a
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Division two player, okay, Like, yeah, I'm gonna go in
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: the transfer portal, but I'm gonna look at, you know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: a MAX school. I'm gonna look at maybe a lower
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: power for school. No way in my mind, Like, yeah,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: you believe in yourself to be an SEC quarterback, but
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: no way in my mind, I'm gonna get a full
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: scholarship to go to Ole Miss. And he actually said
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: he was about to commit to Temple. That was his
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: only offer he had. And Charlie Weiss found his highlights
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: on Twitter. So to your point about the old age
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: about social media not being there and Twitter being there,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: like that's what's so great about this era. What makes
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: the story even greater about Trinidad is Charlie Weish just
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: scrolling on Twitter one day, finds this guy's highlights scheduling
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: for a visit Commits wasn't even supposed to play for
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: this season. Austin Simmons gets hurt. He propels in, but.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: They were looking for a backup quarterback.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: They didn't even recruit Hi as a start, And he
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: said he was supposed to be a part of a
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: running package. He wasn't even supposed to be like the
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: guy at all, which makes you wonder how good Austin
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Simmons looked. At one point, he looked a little rusty
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: in that Kentucky game, and then he got hurt, and
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: you know, Chamblis obviously didn't look back. But I just
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: think it's so remarkable, and he even opens up the
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: landscape of now people are gonna look at Division two.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: People were looking at FCS. Why would I not want
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: to go to Farris State, who just won the national
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: championship again and look at their quarterback, especially.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: With the low value of that versus going.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: And getting a six million dollars seven million dollars quarterback
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: and not even making a play. That's where you could
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: take That's where you could do the moneyball Billy Bean, right,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: if you're if you find the best player, like the
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: MVP of the MAC, Let's say that guy's a defensive
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: end and he's gonna end up being like this guy's
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: gonna end up being a third rounder, that guy costs
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: a million dollars because all the good teams are gonna
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: want the guy, right. But Signetti and I think one
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: thing that differs from Nick Saban is Nick Saban didn't.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Deal with small dudes. And you saw him and I
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: like five nine corner boom the kick can play. And
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: he values more competitive, Like he's a great evaluator because
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: he's finding these guys at these lower levels. And I
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: think he puts a premium. And this is where I
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: was texting with the buddy to night. They're like, wait
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: till Indiana starts getting five stars. We were texting about it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Two.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I think he would want a specific type five star
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: like individual person, like you better fit what he wants
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: or else it's not he's not you better be like
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: once you get to Oregon or or Georgia, like what
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: they're doing, their standard is so high that like they
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: probably take some guys that they don't love, but the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: guy's just such a good talent. It's it's worth the risk.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I don't don't know if six doing that now, Maybe
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: eventually he'll have to do that if he loses a
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: couple times Ohio State or Oregon in a couple of years.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: But I think his evaluation of like the mental toughness
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder guy, he's like, it's weird. They
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: feel like the like the buttoned up, much better version
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: of Boise in their heyday like fifteen years ago. But
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: they're clearly better than that because they're killing everybody and
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: they're a power four teams. So it's I don't think
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: there is a parallel. I think they're just their own story,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: and every once in a while you just have like
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: this is just one of the crazy stories of all time.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just one of those stories to me
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: that in like twenty thirty years they'll be a movie
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: like Rudy, but it won't. You couldn't talk about this
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: team like their Rudy because I'm watching him just kick
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the crap out everybody. So they're not Rudy. They're better
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: than you, but they're guys like Oregon probably has more
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: guys on that field that will get drafted higher over
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: for the.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Next three or four years.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Right. I looked at now some of them are young,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: but still I looked.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: At Indiana's recruiting class for next year for twenty twenty six,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: and the ranked thirty fourth twenty two commits zero five stars,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: seven four stars. So even like next year, Signetty's prioritizing
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: portal more than he is the high school recruiting, but
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: he's still able to get those four star players. It's remarkable.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: And then when we were having the discussion about Chambliss
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: about him being a Division two guy that didn't make
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of money, kind of a low risk, high
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: reward thing. On the flip side with Carson Beck, you
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: got to give a lot of credit for Miami. He
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: got a lot of shit in the offseason because they
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: made four million dollars five million dollars. It looks like
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: a pretty good investment for making the National Championship. And
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: down the stretch he's making big plays. I know he
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: threw that interception and he had some bad throws, but
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: you know, the rushing touchdown to be able to make
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: the National Championship was the defensive line made a good
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: play on the ball there.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: But let's you were there last night. Let's let's end
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: on this. Did you watch the game on the field. No?
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: So I I thought I had press box access on
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: my pass but I did not, and I just had
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: pre and posts to be on the field. I wasn't
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: allowed to be on the field during I didn't have
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: that like lanyard or whatever. So I ended up watching
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: it from the two hundred level. I just found a
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: seat and just sat there and watched the entire time,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: plus the press box at State Farm Stadium. I'm sure
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: you've been a lot of press boxes. When they have
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: that glass in front, you can't hear the noise of
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: the fans.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm one of.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Those people when I watch football and big moments happen,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I like to kind of react, like I'm just kind
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: of a geek.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Where you're a man of the people.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: If there's a big hit or you know, explosive play
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: by Chambliss like Keewan Lacey seventy four yarder, I want
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: to yell and scream and like what just happened. So
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I watched in the two hundred.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: We don't along with the big Jays.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: You know, they're a little quieter and you gotta be
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: a little more professional, and they're all type in and
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: stuff and they're all like looking at it where they're
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: trying to write in the articles and stuff like that.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: But no, yeah, I watched in the two hundred level.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I was just so you just found a random open seat.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of open seats seat.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot of open seats in the
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: two hundred level, which is like the club section. Also
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: at a Buddy, that's like the best level to watch
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: a football game. Yeah, I was over by like the
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: old miss end Zone, but safe Arm Stadium anywhere you sit.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I feel like, obviously doesn't get a good reputation of
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: where the location is or how good the football team
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: is the Arizona Cardinals, But if you want to in
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: terms of like Final four National Championship collegeotball playoff games,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I think it's one of the better stadiums that you
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: can have a venue at. Obviously, the grass is pretty shitty,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: which last night it wasn't slippery at all, but it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Was a couple of times they were a couple of
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: running backs slipped, Yeah Fletcher slipped on one. But it
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: was it was better than the Super Bowl. But still,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: is that the owner for Arizona Cardinals going cheap grass?
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Bid Well?
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah he's cheap. Yeah, he's super cheap. Never gonna win
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: with Bidwell as the owner of his team. But it
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: just felt like it felt intense obviously the stars on
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: the sideline and seeing all these Miami legends.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: You walk around and I'm walking on the sideline.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: You see Ray Lewis, Michael Phelps, and you got Cam
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Warren Jackson, Dart Ederan, James, Andre Johnson, like Reggie Wayne,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: like this girl that works for the Fiesta Bowl. After
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: the game, she's like, YEA, who are those guys over there.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, that's Andre Johnson, Edwin James, Reggie Wayne,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: like legends, Hall of famers. She's like, well, you should
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: go over and take photos with them. I was like,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: no way, Like, there's no way I want to bother
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: them or take a photo. Next thing I look, she
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: goes over there and asks them, and I got a
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: photo with Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, and Edwin James, which
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I'll probably frame. But it was just like the magnitude
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: of that game and seeing how many stars in ALM base,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: which is cool with this new you know, landscape of
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: college football, seeing how many Alma Mater guys, and you
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: obviously it's Miami. They haven't been to this point since
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: what two thousand and one, two thousand and three. Both
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: sides traveled really well. Obviously the game was intense too,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: but overall, this is a great atmosphere. And obviously got
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: the interview with Michael Irvin which for the program how
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: to Do It, so.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: It was that was cool. He Uh, yeah, those guys,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: me and Shane were talking last night. I do think
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the amount Mario might need to cut off these guys.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: There are going to be so many Miami alumni that
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I would imagine they take up both sidelines. Yeah, and
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of them you don't realize, like Michael irvans
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: like fifty eight years old, you know, even ray Lewis.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I mean ray Lewis retired twelve years ago and he
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: was old when he he was like forty when he retired.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: These guys their heyday late eighties, mid nineties. You know
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the rock it is gonna be for college football. Indiana
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: obviously is gonna be this all time story going into
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: this game. But there's gonna be like a Laker Yankee
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: field to Miami with the stars and the famous people,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: especially being in Miami. I uh, for the first time,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I told Marie tonight, you know what, hard Rock wanted
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: me and Colin to do something at the game. I
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: think Colin is going I obviously with the baby, am
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: not gonna be able to make it typically on this
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: type stuff like I've been lucky over my life and
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: been a lot of big NFL Super Bowls, NBA finals.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Like I've been there, done that again.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I never take it for granted having the ability, but
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, if I can't go at whatever, I
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: kind of got a little foma. Like it is if
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: the baby had been born like a month ago and I.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Could have gone to see Miami, Indiana and been there.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be pretty cool from a storyline standpoint,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: and just like interest standpoint. I feel as if he
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: told me it was like Oregon, Ohio State or like Texas, Georgia,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: like whatever, Right, this is pretty freaking cool. I mean,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: there's no way around it. Did you see the interview
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: with Mario tonight, Like you could tell he's pretty on edge,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: like he's he feels like you know, Saban has ribbing
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: him a little bit, but you can tell like there's
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: a lot on the line.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even with SVP Fast Night to SVP, he was
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: asking him like he's like, I'm not gonna say the
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: U is back, and Chris balls like, oh here we go.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Don't say it an SVP kind of got pissed. He's like,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I'm professional, Like, trust me, I'm not going to put
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: you in that situation. He almost seems I mean, Signetty's
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: intense on the sideline, but Mario christ Ball almost seems
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: more intense where it's like, I feel like in this game,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: he's just gonna overthink and he's gonna do something stupid.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: But he's been so good throughout the playoffs, he's been
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: so good throughout the season. I don't want to diminish
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: him at all, but he almost seems like over intense
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: on the sideline. You saw that video too of his
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: assistant coach hugging him and he told him to get
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: off of him, which I understand that circumstance, because there's
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: eighteen seconds left. You have Trinidad Chamberliss, who's been dicing
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: your defense and almost had an opportunity to win that game.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: But he I don't know if it's him being a
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: former player, and you're right, maybe it's the alum seeing
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: those guys lined up on both sides that kind of
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: just adds to the pressure of this.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I had a buddy that was almost became his GM
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: at when he was at Oregon and just was like, well,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: he's a grinder. He's not a big, happy, go lucky guy.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, Signetti openly talks about It's weird. You would
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: think he'd be like a raging dick and they're twenty hours,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Like he's got the Bruce Arians. Like I tell my guys,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: we seven thirty and we're out of here, like after dinner,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Like have a life, go see your kids. You know,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: if you can't get it done, then you shouldn't be
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: working for me. So I think they're a little they
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: feel the same when they're just standing there with their scowl.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I think they are way different personalities. Now, part of
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: it goes back to Mario. I think Chip on his
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: shoulder is like an overachieving player, you know. I think
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: this goes back in kind of the Miami culture back then.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: He was like probably one of the worst guys on
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: the team and earned his spot and became like part
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: of this huge you know what they've become. And then
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: he gets a shot, fails, goes to sab and resurrects
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: his career, goes to Oregon, does well, but everyone still
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: kind of nitpicks them, right. I think one thing let's
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: end on this, like we Dan Lanning kind of gets
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: a pass. You know, there's a lot of people we
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: talk about passes. Mario does not get a pass. Some
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: of that's brought it on him, done some crazy play calls, fumbles.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: You know, guys like Lane Sark, those guys do not
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: get passes. Kirby gets a pass because he went back
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: to back natties. So no one holds a loss against him.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Dan's been rolled now. I mean lost some big games
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: to debor obviously the last two playoffs. Ohio State blew
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: them out, got blown out tonight. That Texas Tech game
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: was pretty close if they just would have had if
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: you just gave like Texas Tech Trinidad Chambliss, Orgon could
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: have lost last week or whatever they played ten days ago. Right,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: So I listen, I'm pro Dan Lanning, but I mean
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I think that he gets to fly under a little
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: bit of the radar.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: They're in Eugene, right, I think that's part of it.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I think Oregon and Washington, you know, Weird Way get
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: to fly under the radar more than most programs, especially Oregon.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I mean they're consistent top five team like that would
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: not be the case if this was the equivalent of
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: like Auburn or Florida or something and they were top
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: five program but getting blown out like that, it would
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: just I'm not saying fire the guy.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying he just doesn't get criticized ever.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: And they got worked.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right back seven.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially with how much and now he's got new
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: coordinators coming in.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with how much elite talent they have. When
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: you talked earlier about Indiana and how they're obviously gonna
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: have Mendoza in and probably a lot of second round guys.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Kenyan Cidy's gonna be a first round guy. They got
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: a couple of defensive linemen that could be a first
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: round talent. And you're obviously conquering the West coast too,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: And you go against a guy in Kurtis Signetti who's
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: done it for two years, when you're about to be
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: entering the year five next year with back to back
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: years where you get blown out, I mean, that's one
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: of the largest deficits largest margins of victories are lost.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I should say that organ's ever had and the spread
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: being three points, like you just thought it was gonna
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: be a close game. I don't know. I don't know
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: where you go. I think Dan Lane is gonna be
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: a great coach. This is kind of one of those
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: things that he's kind of the maturation of coaching. It's
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: gonna take probably longer than a lot of Oregon fans expect.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Versus what there's gonna be is there's gonna be pressure
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: these next couple of years with this loaded roster, you know,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: to really kind of him.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Next year's the year. Next year would be the year
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: if I were to say, Oregon would have won the
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: national championship, especially if Dante come to that making semi
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: This year was a really really good season for them,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: especially with how many injuries they had. Totally yeah, at
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: the wide receiver.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I just think anytime you get blown out by a
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: conference opponent that you, I mean could have beat. I
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: know you lost by ten, but I mean they were
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: they went toe to toe with them early in the season,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: and then you watch them now now they've had injuries.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: But I do think I think these next two years,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: people are gonna want to be like, can we win
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: a national championship because that's one thing that has eluded Oregon.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: But other than that, yeah, I mean, fun couple of
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: days and now we got one more game. How long
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: it take you to get home last night? That's my
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: big issue with the place. Just such a pain to
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: get out of there there.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: It took me fifty four minutes because it is raining,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: and you know how people in Arizona when it rains,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: they feel like it's ice or snow, so they drive
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: like twenty miles an hour to get back. Because I
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: left there at like midnight, it took me like forty
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: five minutes.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Traffic are just rolling on the one on one. So
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: when you went out to your car last night, everyone
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: was gone.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Yeaheah, everybody was gone. It was it was dark, parking
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: lot was empty, stadium was empty. And it's always nice too.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I hate the traffic when you leave one of those games,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: especially as a fan, like dealing with that type of traffic.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: But I was gonna ask you real quick, what would
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: your prediction be for the line? Like what would you
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: project the line for Indiana Miami to be? Without even I.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Have the line? If I if if hard Rock hired
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: John Middlecoffin gave me my own little book, I would
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: send it in a touchdown seven and a half. That's
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: what it is.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Seven and a half. I think it seems accurate after
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: what you saw tonight.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: And they're starting corner who's good, got the targeting call,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: He's out for the first half. You know. I know
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Mesdor came back in the game, but he had his
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: arm snap. So what to see Mario when he was
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: being interviewed tonight by the game day guys, I think
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: part of his face was like, you know, we're pretty
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: banged up. We're pretty banged up. I think there are
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: They're pretty banged up. He even talked to me that
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: de tackle that tried to go for him last night.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: His leg didn't work after like two plays, and I'd
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: be like, limp off the field. So they are the
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: one concerning part for them. It's why I loved them
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: last night. I was like, I think Miam's gonna win
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: this game by ten. I thought four would absolutely dominate them.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: You didn't really notice them, Yeah, like and part of
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: it Chambliss can move, but so can Mendoza. Like their
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: pass rush did not smother Maybe ole Miss. I mean
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: they did, you know, only lose to Georgia in the SEC.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe their ow lines probably better than they get credit for,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: because I mean, Perkins was the best pass rusher on
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: the field last night out of the two teams.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Chan Was didn't get touched against Georgia either, so he
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: might honestly be good at just evating those tacklers. But
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: if you're Mario, yeah, he also he hyped on you
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: talked about it last night, the whole targeting ejection thing,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: which is another discussion the other day. That's like the
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: worst wool joke in college football. But if you're Mario,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: you had forty two minutes of possession against Ole Miss.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: It seems like you're gonna do the same thing against
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Indiana because that you're not gonna be able to stop
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: this offense how two dimensionally.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't do that against them. Their defense
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: too good and they play like that. That's the other thing,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: you know, So they play even if you do well
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: on the ground, they played just like you. You would
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: just put the most. You're trying to. You're trying to
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: You're just trying to even be even with them. Like
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: what was the I bet I'm looking at night time possession.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: It probably got skewed in the second half, but it
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: was thirty one to twenty eight, But I bet the
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: first half, I mean I guess Indiana scored on the
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: pick six, so their offense wasn't even on the field
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: for the first like eight minutes of the game because
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: then Oregon drove.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I I I'd.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Be stunned to play any one. Honestly, if if Miami wins,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I'll end on this. If Miami wins, Mario should be
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: a should be a made man to get a lifetime
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: contract because that's he's got no business winning this game,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: which is crazy to say Miami in the National Championship
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: has no business beating Indiana. But that's where we are
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. Okay, Jackson, head off to bed
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: on this crazy or head out on the town. I
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: mean it's ten o'clock, you go hit the town, do
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: whatever you do, because I'm I'm gonna go to bed,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: So have a good night. I'm glad you enjoyed the
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: game and found a seat in the two hundred level.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: That's life. Hack football, unlike basketball or baseball, much better
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: in the middle rows than it is close and obviously
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: the nosebley is hard to see, but anytime that you
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: can get somewhat two three hundred depending on the stadium,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: best place to watch football game by force, and you
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: just got to act like a good hack by.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: You just gotta act like you've been there before. You
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: could buy a four hundred ticket and you could walk
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: to the two hundred. There's no security guard that's gonna
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: check your ticket, just gonna open the door, find an
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: open seat. If someone comes over and says, hey, that's
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: my seat, then move. It's just that easy. But no,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: I will be I will be staying here.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: How many you know how many country clubs I've hit
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: golf balls at the range over the course of my
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: life by just tucking my shirt, putting on the hat
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: and just going out to the range that no one noticed.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: You act like you've been there. Life's not that complicated.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: I'd beg you've been there, And no, I'm not hitting
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: the town. I will be staying here and probably editing
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: of social tonight and going to bed, maybe you know,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: playing some Call of Duty, playing some two K and
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: ripping the good old penske and heading to bed.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Audio Seebody goes the volume