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Colin Cowherd Podcast - INSTANT REACTION: Indiana Wins National Championship, Miami Clearly 2nd Best Team, NIL Has Transformed College Football · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume. Well, we have a new national champion in
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  Speaker 1: college football, third straight year. It's a Big Ten team.
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  Speaker 1: First it's Jim Harbaugh and the Wolverines. Last year it's
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State. Punish people in the playoff, and Miami and
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State both were built to potentially beat Indiana. Neither
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  Speaker 1: could twenty seven to twenty one, third straight Big Ten champion.
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  Speaker 1: I will say I thought it would be a little
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  Speaker 1: like this, a little more scoring than I thought. I
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  Speaker 1: thought it would be the under, but you know, be cheap, cheap,
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  Speaker 1: a little chippy. Early against Mendoza, he got a late
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  Speaker 1: hit and that they didn't call it. A couple of
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  Speaker 1: little late hits, personal fouls not called. And I mean
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  Speaker 1: make Indiana, you know, convert fourth downs and third downs,
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  Speaker 1: and they did. That's what Indiana has been doing all year.
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  Speaker 1: They did it against Iowa, they did it against Penn State,
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  Speaker 1: and did against Ohio State, and they did it against
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  Speaker 1: the Miami Hurricanes. I think Mendoza, I mean, if there
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  Speaker 1: were any critics or doubters that he's the number one pick, John,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he just that quarterback draw for a touchdown
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  Speaker 1: took up beating Listen. I think you know what I
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  Speaker 1: think it proves is that Miami not only deserve to
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  Speaker 1: be in the College Football Playoff, but Miami was the
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  Speaker 1: second best team. I mean, Ohio State's offense couldn't generate
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  Speaker 1: you know, this kind of offensive explosion. I mean you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean they were driving to put their fourth touchdown up.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, I think I think we got the
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  Speaker 1: two best teams in the country. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: if you're an SEC fan, not only should you be
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  Speaker 1: terrified of the gap that is widening between the Big
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  Speaker 1: Ten and the SEC. Miami has major, major nil money.
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  Speaker 1: Broward County is a just an unbelievable recruiting hotbed, and
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  Speaker 1: Crystal Ball maybe the best recruiter in the country. So
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  Speaker 1: Miami and Indiana. Now Deanna's got Mark Cuban's checkbook, John
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  Speaker 1: John Middlecoff joining us. It just it's those are Miami
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  Speaker 1: and Indiana. John are not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the one thing Mario's gonna do is building the trenches,
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  Speaker 2: and that's gonna translate moving forward. I mean they had
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  Speaker 2: early on in the game, he went, this is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be hard. This felt like an NFL game to me,
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  Speaker 2: Like the stacks like this wasn't gonna be either quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: not throwing for three hundred yards. It's it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: about getting big third and fours converted the Mendoza in
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  Speaker 2: that first couple series stretch when he got absolutely destroyed,
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  Speaker 2: multiple free hits on sacks, hitting the face, I thought,
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  Speaker 2: I can imagine Tom Brady up in the box looking
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  Speaker 2: at his GM, going that's the NFL right there. And
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  Speaker 2: he hopped right back up, faced off. And then obviously
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  Speaker 2: he played well throughout, but even Ohio State. Because I
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  Speaker 2: started texting around, you know, Bain is viewed as a
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  Speaker 2: top ten pick, but Messidor he's twenty five, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, you know, teams and it's like, well, he
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  Speaker 2: might not go in the first round because he's older,
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  Speaker 2: but he ain't gonna last far in the second round.
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  Speaker 2: So they have two guys that were just coming. They're
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  Speaker 2: d line. The other guys are really good. That was
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  Speaker 2: a test for Indiana, the physicality, because one thing Indiana's
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  Speaker 2: had is beside Ohio State, no one could match their physicality.
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  Speaker 2: I'd argue, tell me, if you agree with this, are
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  Speaker 2: they the best team? I'm saying team in college or
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  Speaker 2: pro because they don't really have a weakness. Their defense
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  Speaker 2: is great, their offense is very well round, and their
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  Speaker 2: special teams are fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: I would say Seattle feels the same way as when
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  Speaker 1: you can have great special teams. I think they said
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  Speaker 1: that was the eighth blocked punch by a Signetti team
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  Speaker 1: at Indiana. So like Seattle is rare where they don't
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  Speaker 1: have a whole and they have elite special teams. That's Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: So like that. You don't get that usually at the
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  Speaker 1: college level, even when you have great college programs, you
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  Speaker 1: don't spend any you know, you're not spending nil money
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  Speaker 1: these days on the special teams. I can't remember when
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  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll was at USC they didn't even care about
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  Speaker 1: special teams. They didn't even go for blocks. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they were just going to beat you on their units. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: O and D and so I think I would say
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  Speaker 1: this about Indiana. They're they were trailing the entire game.
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  Speaker 1: They felt like they were coming from behind. Miami is physically.
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  Speaker 1: The way to beat Indiana is what Ohio State and
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  Speaker 1: Miami have, which is better than average college quarterback, big
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  Speaker 1: time skill players that can you know you don't you
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  Speaker 1: can get over the top Fletcher, the running back Tony
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  Speaker 1: the receiver you can pop for big plays. You're not
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  Speaker 1: going to get thirteen to fifteen play drives in Indiana
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  Speaker 1: and Ohio State and Miami both had that. And then
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  Speaker 1: in tough physical defenses that make Indiana get down to
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  Speaker 1: late third and five and fourth and three because you
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  Speaker 1: can't give many. You can't you can't win against Mendoza
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  Speaker 1: if it's third and one, if it's second and four,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to put him into third and fives, fourth
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  Speaker 1: and fourths. You've got to make them earn it. But
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  Speaker 1: that's what Indiana does. I mean, they're gutsy play calling,
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  Speaker 1: those sideline fade patterns. They're just a really complete college team.
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  Speaker 1: And again, this is what the sixtieth ranked recruiting classes John,
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  Speaker 1: They're going to get top twenty classes now. Now they've
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  Speaker 1: got Cuban's checkbook. So I mean next year, Ohio State's loaded,
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  Speaker 1: Michigan's going to rebound with Witningham, They've got great offensive pieces.
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  Speaker 1: Indiana's going nowhere. Oregon now with Dante Moore's top six program.
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  Speaker 1: USC and Washington are out of the rebuild stage. They
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  Speaker 1: both have their quarterbacks returning and a lot of nil
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  Speaker 1: money and a lot of players Penn State with Matt
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  Speaker 1: Campbell should be at least maybe they'll be somewhere around
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  Speaker 1: the top twenty twenty five. I just think this is
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  Speaker 1: I think the Big Ten now at the top is
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  Speaker 1: the best conference hands down.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and it's a coaching conference. What do you think
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  Speaker 2: about it? Right Saban retires, you add Signetti, who immediately
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  Speaker 2: is just an elite. I mean he's right away. I
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  Speaker 2: mean there's not a better coach right now in the
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  Speaker 2: country than him. I mean, look what he just did,
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  Speaker 2: went through Dan like they were Swiss cheese, and took
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  Speaker 2: on Miami and physically went toe to toe with them
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  Speaker 2: and obviously beat Ryan Day. So he's you got to
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  Speaker 2: give him for them, you know, living in the moment,
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  Speaker 2: the best coach in the country. The money aspect, in
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  Speaker 2: the transfer portal advantage for them. I mean, Signetti, I
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  Speaker 2: was reading, I don't know that much about the transfer portal,
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  Speaker 2: had a great transfer portal, landed a quarterback, like like
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  Speaker 2: they're not only not going away, like they're gonna view
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  Speaker 2: themselves as a playoff team again next year, Like this
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  Speaker 2: is switch, this isn't you know? It used to be
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  Speaker 2: pre recruiting, if a team had a great year basketball
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  Speaker 2: or football. That got kind of a one year wonder. Well,
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  Speaker 2: one year wonders are over. If you have the money,
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  Speaker 2: you just keep it rolling, you keep it flu right.
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  Speaker 2: So and the other advantage he has, like his coordinators
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  Speaker 2: aren't going anywhere, I mean, what do they really hang
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  Speaker 2: their hat on, because beside Mendoza, Miami had way more
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  Speaker 2: prospects in the top one hundred of this upcoming draft
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  Speaker 2: in Indiana. They're the best coach team. And even tonight
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  Speaker 2: you just saw even when their plays didn't hit, one
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  Speaker 2: time one of their wide receivers got held. It was
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  Speaker 2: a perfect route. They find a weakness, like the weakness
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  Speaker 2: of Miami clearly is the secondary, and they found the
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  Speaker 2: weak link on that secondary twenty four and they were
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  Speaker 2: just going after him, and they were going after That's
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  Speaker 2: what NFL coordinators do when they fin a week link.
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  Speaker 2: You've seen it with Benn Johnson with Kyle and in
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  Speaker 2: the attack.
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  Speaker 1: And also Signetti likes older players. I mean, Carson Beck
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been going to class for two years. I think
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  Speaker 1: your initial comments right on the money. This felt a
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  Speaker 1: little bit like an NFL game, I mean college football,
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  Speaker 1: because they pay the players. Now have a transfer portal,
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  Speaker 1: which is free agency and have an NFL style playoff.
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  Speaker 1: The sport feels more like the NFL. Well, Tonight's game,
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  Speaker 1: to me, more than any National Championship game felt professional.
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  Speaker 1: You have two quarterbacks that are going to play on Sundays.
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  Speaker 1: You have twenty three and twenty four year olds playing
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  Speaker 1: in the game. I think the coaching now, I mean
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  Speaker 1: to have a team like Indiana that doesn't make mistakes, John,
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  Speaker 1: that's a professional team. I mean the Rams played no
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  Speaker 1: drop passes, no penalties, and no turn and overs against Chicago.
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  Speaker 1: That's what elite NFL teams did. We've always kind of
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  Speaker 1: built in that our college players make mistakes. Indiana plays
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  Speaker 1: like a pro team, and a lot of that is
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  Speaker 1: they're very, very old. There are a lot of twenty
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  Speaker 1: three year olds, and so you know, college basketball is great,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of these college basketball teams these are
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  Speaker 1: one and done guys. Right, they're like nineteen year old kids.
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  Speaker 1: Well with somebody, now you have a child four days old?
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  Speaker 1: Who should note, John Middlecoff, I've had six kids in
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  Speaker 1: my life. The gap between like nineteen and twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: it's the Grand Canyon, Like it's a different, especially with boys,
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  Speaker 1: it's a different human being. The brain's developing. So Indiana's
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  Speaker 1: got twenty three year old guys on the team, so
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  Speaker 1: they're just they just don't come at mistakes. Even that
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  Speaker 1: bang bang late, that that personal foul on the hit
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  Speaker 1: on Beck, even in slow motion, it was bang bang
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  Speaker 1: in fast motion. I'm like, that's not a penalty. That's
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  Speaker 1: you're given one. I mean, if you're I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to call the ones against Miami early. That's a weak
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  Speaker 1: one to call it against the Hoosiers late. So my
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  Speaker 1: point is the game I thought really looked almost seventy
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  Speaker 1: percent professional.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about this. You know, historically you thought
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  Speaker 2: basketball school, football school. Right, if you went to UCLA
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  Speaker 2: or Indiana or North Carolina, it was basketball based. And
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  Speaker 2: if you met someone that went to Texas or Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State or Michigan, like it was a football school. I've
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  Speaker 2: seen a lot of people. I live in Scottsdale, and
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  Speaker 2: obviously we get a lot of older people that retire here,
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  Speaker 2: and I see people at the gym wearing their Indiana shirts.
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  Speaker 2: Over the last probably ten months everywhere you mean to me,
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  Speaker 2: talked they love football, Well, who are they? They went
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  Speaker 2: to Indiana, They're Bears fans, they're Packers fans, they're Minta.
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  Speaker 2: But they went to a school that football not only
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  Speaker 2: didn't matter, is the worst program in the history. Well,
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  Speaker 2: these people will not only will support like they have
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  Speaker 2: always been football people, Like this is not UCLA where
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  Speaker 2: it's like even if they resurrected their fan base. These
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  Speaker 2: Indiana people, I would imagine they have the biggest alumni base.
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  Speaker 2: What percentage of those, especially men are Bears and Packer
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  Speaker 2: fans numbers probably pretty high right from that region of
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  Speaker 2: the country. So it's not like they're not passionate about
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  Speaker 2: this sport. And you felt it tonight with Miami on
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  Speaker 2: the field the crowd, So not only it's not just
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  Speaker 2: the numbers that they have. All these fans, people that
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  Speaker 2: go to Michigan Ohio State love football like that's part
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  Speaker 2: of the power, right these Indiana fans, You've awoken it
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  Speaker 2: overnight like that, and they are going to be treated
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  Speaker 2: the program with the passion and the support immediately like
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  Speaker 2: these other top Penn State, Michigan Ohio State immediately like overnight,
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  Speaker 2: and they have the base like it's not like they
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  Speaker 2: don't have to fake it. That's where I think that's scary.
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  Speaker 2: If you're in the Big Ten, you're like this program
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  Speaker 2: with this coach. You see him say, like earlier this week,
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  Speaker 2: he's like, I'm not an NFL guy. He's not even
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  Speaker 2: he's not even doing the Marcus Freeman like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: teasing you. He's like, I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: Well. Also, Indiana is known as a business school, So
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  Speaker 1: people leave Indiana. The jobs are not in Indiana, and
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  Speaker 1: they go to Chicago, and they go to Dallas, and
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  Speaker 1: they go to Phoenix, and they go to Minneapolis, and
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  Speaker 1: they've got money. I mean, they're in Chicago where I'm at.
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  Speaker 1: And again now because Indiana is good, there are Indiana
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: flags everywhere. There are indi I mean I see it
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: all over Chicago this weekend and now over the past month.
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  Speaker 1: There's Indiana gear everywhere in Chicago. So this is a
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  Speaker 1: Big ten town obviously, but this has always been a
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  Speaker 1: school known for excellent business school. Graduates make a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money, and they leave the state of Indiana because
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  Speaker 1: that's not where the jobs are. Most Big ten kids
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  Speaker 1: they go to Chicago if they want to stay in
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  Speaker 1: the region, or they go to New York or Los
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  Speaker 1: Angeles or the Bay if that's where the Big ten
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  Speaker 1: kids go or they go to warm weather in the South,
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: SEC kids mostly primarily stay kind of in Atlanta, Dallas Footprint.
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  Speaker 1: Some go West, but not that many. So these Indiana
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  Speaker 1: kids are all over the country and they're going to
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  Speaker 1: go everywhere for their football program. I mean, you saw
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  Speaker 1: the crowd tonight with seventy five percent games in Miami.
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  Speaker 1: It was seventy five US fans. It was that while So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean the other thing I thought about watching Mendoza,
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  Speaker 1: So think about this weekend, probably the pass of the
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  Speaker 1: year in the NFL. Number one pick, Caleb Williams, Fernando Mendoza. Tonight,
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  Speaker 1: Carson Beck had a really good second half. But Fernando
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  Speaker 1: Mendoza is simply different than every other college quarterback. There's
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  Speaker 1: a gap between him and Dante Moore and Arch Manning
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  Speaker 1: is substantial, Julian saying substantial. Matt Stafford fourth quarter in overtime,
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  Speaker 1: number one pick. These number one picks, when they're really
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  Speaker 1: the real deal, Stafford, Caleb, Mendoza, John They're different. There's
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  Speaker 1: a difference between a first round quarterback and a number
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  Speaker 1: one pick. And when I watch Mendoza just the size,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he had a bloody lip from that cheap
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  Speaker 1: shot early. The size, the toughness, the accuracy. Again we
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  Speaker 1: see this. He moves. He moves a lot better than
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  Speaker 1: people think. He doesn't move as well as say Andrew Look,
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  Speaker 1: but he moves better than a golf for a CJ. Stroud,
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  Speaker 1: I think he's closer to a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert move than he is a Jared Goff. He's
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  Speaker 1: a big, strong kid, obviously committed, humble, there's a humility.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know you're a former pro scout. He looks
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  Speaker 1: like to me. Now again, I don't think he has
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  Speaker 1: the horsepower of Caleber Josh Allen, but to me, he
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  Speaker 1: feels like a high end franchise quarterback. Does he not?
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's remove you know, Caleb's skill set is beside.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's on a short list of physical tools
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  Speaker 2: coming out of college. But if you just look at
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  Speaker 2: the NFL, let's just pick two guys who have been
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  Speaker 2: Pro bowlers and when their team is well run, they
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  Speaker 2: go to the playoffs consistently, Jared Goff and Dak Prescott.
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  Speaker 2: When it's all said and done, what are those two
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  Speaker 2: going to combine to make eight hundred million dollars?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Playing in the league and combined for probably ten total
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  Speaker 2: Pro Bowls. I mean, they've been really good players for
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  Speaker 2: a long time. And if those guys can play at
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  Speaker 2: a high level. And obviously Dak was a later pick,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, it doesn't once you get in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Like if you could redo it, Dad, that would have
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  Speaker 2: gone one or two. Right, right, it's Fernando Mendoza can
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  Speaker 2: and to me the GoF comparison. You know, his touch passes,
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  Speaker 2: and there was a play early in the game that
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  Speaker 2: Herbsrey gave him credit. He looked left, wasn't there? Their
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  Speaker 2: pass rush is coming ninety miles an hour. It's like
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  Speaker 2: will and Anderson and daneil Hunter relative to college speed
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  Speaker 2: coming off the edge, He's boom checked down out of
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  Speaker 2: his hands. And I was thinking, listen, I mean, he's
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  Speaker 2: been playing at a pretty high level for a while.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: But you get there, you're warming up. You know, the
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  Speaker 2: Raiders have the number one pick. It'd be one thing
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  Speaker 2: if it's Mark Davis and Spytek over there. It's another
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  Speaker 2: thing when Tom Brady standing next to him, right, and that,
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  Speaker 2: and for all these players, I mean, don't think for
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  Speaker 2: a second. Every player on that warm ups Miami and
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  Speaker 2: Indiana included. Didn't look at Tom Brady standing right there.
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  Speaker 2: So it adds next for juice, and then you do
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  Speaker 2: you play the way he played to me the determining
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  Speaker 2: factor for quarterback. You don't need to have Caleb's arm,
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  Speaker 2: you don't need to have Lamar's ability, but you do
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  Speaker 2: need to be really mentally tough and you're gonna get
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  Speaker 2: hit really really hard. And he popped up a couple times.
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  Speaker 2: He got hit like an NFL player, and he hoped
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  Speaker 2: and he's been doing it all. See goes back to
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  Speaker 2: that Ohio State game. I was all in the moment
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  Speaker 2: the Ohio State happened the first play of the game.
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  Speaker 2: A play later, he's back on and the way he
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  Speaker 2: played in that game because Ohio State and Miami that's playing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we see some of these NFL defenses relative
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  Speaker 2: to you know, the competition is way worse than what
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  Speaker 2: he just saw over the course of the Miami and
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State games. So it is you're not throwing for
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  Speaker 2: four hundred yards in every This isn't the Big twelve.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Sam Darnold just won a game forty one
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  Speaker 2: to six through eighteen times like the NFL is much
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  Speaker 2: more about making right decisions. CJ. Stroud fell apart because
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  Speaker 2: he played dumb, like you can't put the ball in
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  Speaker 2: harm's way like that. So a huge part of quarterback
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  Speaker 2: to really turn it around. Like Jared Goff and Dak
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  Speaker 2: once they started playing well, it's like, don't turn the
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  Speaker 2: ball over. Play When they get bad, it's like they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to force it too much. Yeah, so he gets
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  Speaker 2: the NFL his skill set one hundred. I actually think
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  Speaker 2: the pressure is now on the Raiders, like he is
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  Speaker 2: more than good enough if you build it right to
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  Speaker 2: turn around your franchise. Again, Jared Goff and Dak Prescott
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  Speaker 2: have and Kirk Cousins, they have proven that they can
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  Speaker 2: be level guys that can take you. It's on you
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: then to build the team. Because he's not at the
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: NFL level good enough to just do it by himself, right,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, Caleb has some of that to him. He
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: can just do stuff by himself that no one else
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: really can do. He's not that, but he's definitely really
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: damn good. I've been floored I think the last four games,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: which I bet the most of the NFL. I mean,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: he's a one hundred percent lock to be the number
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: one overall pick. Unless a catastrophic injury happens training, he's
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: the number one pick.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: In the draft. I mean, listen, I saw him against Iowa.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I saw him against the Ohio State and Miami and
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Penn State. Come. You know in that wild second half,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: is that you know Indiana had some bumps. He wanted outson. Yeah,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I just I just think he has all the traits.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I always say, to be a great quarterback, you have
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: to have one great trade. His size is great. He's
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: a six' five and he's. Big he's a big six'. Five,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: KID secondly i think he has really really. Nice touch
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: he's a very accurate with very very. Nice TOUCH and
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: i think theater trade and this is a. Real trade.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: He's tough that kid can. TAKE pops i mean his
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: bloody lip early in. The game signette was ticked off
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: at halftime and it probably had a right. To BE
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: but I think i Will Give Mario crystal. Ball credit
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: he always had A Reputation john he was a recruiter
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: and he was an okay game planner and. GAME coach
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: i thought his in game coaching was. VERY strong i
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: thought you could have after that. Block punt that thing
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: could have. BEEN over i think he built a really,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: good STAFF and, I, thought miami, you know a good
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: sign Of coaching john is two things is improving over
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: the course of. A season, i Mean They carson beck
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: threw four Picks. Against louisville they. Were awful they were
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: a totally different team three. Months, LATER secondly i thought
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: he's in. Game, Coaching listen miami. Makes mistakes they're not a.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Flawless team they're Younger, Than indiana they're they're more Athletic.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Than indiana and, you know YOU and i have talked.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: About this This the miami culture is a, little attitude,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: chest out. Little peacock we're going. To play, you know
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: if they were, a comic they'd go after hecklers like
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: this Is how miami's culture, is built which is we're
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: going to play with a. Little attitude we're not going
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to be. Buttoned up We're, Not indiana We're not that's.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Their STYLE so i don't Look at miami, and, think
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: oh they had. More penalties that's who. They are they're
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: going to hit just a little after. The WHISTLE so, i,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Thought overall miami. Played Well, carson beck, you know he
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: didn't do much offensively in the, first half, But listen
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: miami played well enough to win a. National championship that
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: block punt is. Probably something you can't have a block
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: punt for a Touchdown against indiana and beat a team.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Like that you just. You CAN'T and i think that in,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the end that's. YOUR difference i.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Think the next step for them because there are going
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: to recruit the best dan. Offensive lineman mario is going
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: to do that At A saban kirby. Smart level, to me,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: you know there was a big difference last year when
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: They had carson Or cam ward and their offense was,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: super electric and, This year carson's not that level. Of
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Talent right he'll be drafted on the third day of,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the draft which you HAVE an nfl quarterback on, your
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: team you're going to. Be solid but if they can
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: nail a first round pick to be their quarterback because
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: They got tony who's eighteen, years old they will recruit,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: running backs they will have a great. Offensive line they
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: should be the toast OF. THE acc, I mean clemson's
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: falling off. A cliff I mean belichick's claiming that his
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: recruiting class is going to. Help them i'd short. That
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Program florida state's got a lot. Of problems the one
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: thing you would Say about mark they got no excuse
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: to not dominate. That conference and then you put yourselves
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: in a, position WHERE like i bet the goal, this
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: offseason we want to get one of the top. Four
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: seats it makes your path a little. BIT easier i
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: mean their path right on the Road TO texas a
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: And M. Ohio state it was just because you play that,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: first game especially if you are playing another top you
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: know's gonna play another really. Good team if you're not
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: drawing the non, power four you know pro it's hard
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and that you know they were still they still had
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a lot, of juice it, felt like but they had had.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: SOME injuries i. Was impressed I'm the MIAMI dishear i
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: thought was really. Really Respectable. For mario get gets made
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: fun of. A lot i think in football Circles and
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: twitter and people that just follow. The sport he's brought
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: some of that. ON himself i think this year you
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: got to shut up a little bit if you're one
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: of those people and just tip your hat to.
• 20:23
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee virginia in, GAME coaching i thought they could have
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  Speaker 1: they when they were down ten to nothing. AT half
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  Speaker 1: i mean they ended up losing twenty seven to, twenty
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  Speaker 1: one and they. Were DRIVING so I thought miami. Played
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  Speaker 1: well they, were physical they, were tough and they looked.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Well coached, TO me i have no problem with. That,
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  Speaker 1: Effort listen indiana humiliated teams. THIS year i mean beat
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the breaks. Off teams the two teams that gave them
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Trouble with Indiana. And miami AND if i had to
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: TAKE if i had to vote the final rankings of,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: THE year i Would put, Indiana one I'd put miami
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: To and I'd Put ohio. State three and, You, know
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: india those are the three BEST teams i saw. This
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: year So and i'll go back. To this Georgia and
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: alabama are not. The same they don't have. The Finances
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: josh pate came on my podcast about a week ago,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: and said listen To The atlanta money's never been like
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: in the Pocket of. Georgia Football notre dame's got, big money.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Huge endowment and let's be Honest. About marcus he's a
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: top two or three recruiter in. The cunty there's, No Question,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: chrystal ball hughge. Innil Money south florida is a recruiting
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Hotbed and mario may be the best recruiter period in. The,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Country Signetti ryan day Here comes oregon year. After year,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: You Know. KYLE whittingham, i, think listen ten, YEARS ago
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: i don't know if the sixty six year old. Would work. It's,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Administrative now Indiana's got michigan's got. Big money they'll. Buy
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: players so if you wake up this morning and YOU'RE an,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: sec fan like You Got, notre dame You, got miami
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you got, you know you Got the, big ten it's
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: a scary time. FOR them i mean this Idea That,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: lane kiffin you just put down some, NATIONAL titles i don't.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: BUY it I think texas next year is a team in,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that CONFERENCE and i think they may be the best
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: team in. That conference buy. A, gap.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Well when YOU, say sec who do You, Think GEORGIA Bama. Lsu,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: florida well who are going to be the BEST two
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: sec teams? Moving forward It's two. Texas teams they got all.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: THE money, i mean. IT'S sark i read the. Other
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: day they're gonna have a forty million, dollars roster which
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: is probably by a pretty, sizable gap the number one
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: team in the country in terms of. Roster money so
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of individual pressure on them.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: To win we when you have that, much talent it's
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: gonna be pretty difficult probably to not go ten to,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: two right so, as long Especially if arch improves. Just
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: incrementally SO in A and m is clearly not. Going
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: anywhere they have a. Huge Checkbook It's. Texas tech they're
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: great event they're gonna pass some OF these. Sec teams
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: it's not about history doesn't.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Matter anymore it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Just doesn't no one gives a Shit That nick saban
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: won the national Championship for florida.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And Eight texas tech just went And bought cincinnati's QUARTERBACK
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: who I thought i talked to people was a draftoble quarterback.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: This year he'll be a first round pick. Next year
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: he was a mid early. Second round sworersby was. His
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: name he Was. At Cincinnati texas tech went and. Bought
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: HIM so i did something a, week ago two, weeks
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: ago on, MY show, i said, top ten next ten
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: if you consider Nil, and portal top, ten programs. NEXT
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: ten I put TEXAS, And m Texas And texas tech all.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: In it, i'm sorry it's oil money That the texas economy.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Is big it's. Getting bigger You got california companies and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: billionaires Moving. To texas it's going. Nowhere fast, SO listen i.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: GOT one i got one, For. YOU colin i saw
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: this TWEET and i. LIKED it i just pulled. IT up,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: i said THIS person i think must cover. COLLEGE football,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: i said more proof HOW the nil landscape has. Shifted
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: things there are only forty two early entrants into this
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: upcoming draft in. Twenty six go back four years in twenty,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: twenty one that number was three x at one hundred.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: And thirty the ability for college to pay players has
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: made it a lot more attractive. To, stay well what
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: do you tell who is that benefiting? The most the
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: teams with all, the, Money right so when you see
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: these kids that used, to go where are they gravitating
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: to whoever's giving them the? Most money this is a.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Bit tint it's just a transactional. Sport NOW and i
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: AM not. SEC hater i LOVE. The sec they've had
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: ALL the nfl talent And with Saban, and kirby been
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the most. Dominant program but this thing is dramatically. Shifted
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: overnight at. AT numbers, i mean you hear it as
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: MUCH as. I do. The Numbers sometimes i'll be talking
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: to somebody like a successful Human and i'll, be, like
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: yeah this kid. GOT paid i heard like one point
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: two million dollars and he'll he won't. Even believe, he's like,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: No WAY like i DON'T even i don't even believe
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: THE stuff i read on. The internet, I'm like i'm,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: telling you this is the amount of money these guys are.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Getting paid it. Is insane but it's not because this
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: is what's really.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: GOING on i have a Friend In, Manhattan. Beach california
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: he is a nil agent and he is there is
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver AT an, acc school, good player and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: he's coming down to, two Schools both big ten a
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: million and. A half one of the schools already has two.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Elite receivers he'll be a third a million and, a
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: half and it's it's it is a one of these
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and it's a Blue blood big ten college program that has.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: TWO receivers. I love so it's just a different ball game.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: The bidding, you Know These notre Dames and michigan's have
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: top ten national. Endowment numbers they have billions of dollars
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: they're drawing interest on that daily that the market's been
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: up for, you know look where the stars. Markets at
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: these endowments are growing. Like crazy do.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: You think it's, Sustainable Though because it's one Thing if
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: i'm a rich GUY and I give signetty five million
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: dollars on a, You know dillingham begged for, twenty million
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: and People that my wife, Was, like ah. That's crazy
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: he's just asking for next. Year's roster this isn't for
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: the next. Ten years But if i'm giving to some of,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: these programs only a couple can have really. Successful, years
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Eventually if i'm, a giver EVEN if i have, huge
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: money what if you don't win for a couple. Of
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: YEARS am i going to keep funneling the money at
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the rates in which or the or the numbers in
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: which THAT'S where I think. I will and it's going
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: to be easy for them to get donations. Right now
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: but some of these penn states like you better show
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: me in a couple of years or the money could.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Dry, up well what is Happening? In america the elite
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: one percent. Have Separated the dow is almost at. Fifty thousand,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: so again what would put college football in the crosshairs.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Of trouble it's just like our. National debt you know
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: why our national debt we talk about it, a lot
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: but we're not in danger because our economy. Keeps growing
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: so as our, economy grow that's the Only way elon.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Must know elon must talks about. This regularly the debt
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: becomes less relevant if your. Economy grows the debt's a
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: bigger Problem in europe because their economy is not growing
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: at the Pace. Of americas according to all. The, economists
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: well it's the same in. The nil it's very easy
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: for a guy to rationalize a six million dollar check
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: to his local university if things are hummon in. The
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: economy so if the, economy crashed THAT'S what i think
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: when college football people, Would, Say okay i'm not we're
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: taking two. Years off i'm not writing you twenty four
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: million dollars. In checks so even, for billionaires a lot
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: of it is what's the current state of. The economy
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: so for the rich, right now not, middle class not,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: normal people but for, the rich. They've separated things, are
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: good things. Are hot and that's about as deep into
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: the Economy as John and i'll, ever GO because i
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: certainly don't Know what i'm, talking ABOUT but i think
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: a big picture and all this stuff that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: IS true, i mean it's just those guys are. More
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: willing they've never had more money and as a key
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: ripping giving. These checks but if it, does flip and
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: what's the first thing to go the, second home the country.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Club membership that's where. This time this is fun of money,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: right now and if you're, doing well it's. PROBABLY flowing I,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: mean indiana the amount of booster money they are going
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: to get in the next six months is going to.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Be, historic well and here's the other thing baseball talks.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: About this this IS why i, keep saying you can
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: tell me college football is. In trouble the ratings for
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: tonight's game are going to. BE massive Espn and fox
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: have great college. Football deals they're making a lot of money.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: On it the attendance has. Been great remember there was
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: a decline in ratings and Attendance during alabama dynasty at
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the end the last. Five years that was. The problem
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the sport became. Incredibly regional well it's. Not regional the
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: country Was watching Miami, in Indiana so, indiana boom. HUGE
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: fans sec fans were obviously Watching Because big, ten's There.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Villain miami you've GOT the. Acc WATCHING and I Think west,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Coast people i've said this is growing up On The,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: west coast you Always Watched big ten football because they
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: were In The. Rose Bowl so i've always Been A big,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: ten fan EVEN if i Was a husky Or a
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: duck Or, A trojan i was always A big i
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: watched everybody In The. Big TEN but i LOVE the sec.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: AS well i don't know they started WATCHING the Sec
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Till nick saban really took it to. Another level most
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: of my life in, the NINETIES the sec didn't feel.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: As popular it was regionalized forward that You watched, michigan,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Football Whatever ohio state football much more often than you
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: ever did beside maybe like A Big florida. Georgia game
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: you weren't WATCHING random. Sec games and OBVIOUSLY the tv has.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Expanded that But The big ten feels like they're in
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: a pretty good spot.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Right now they, are SO but i think about this all.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: The time people complain about baseball and, they, Say Oh
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: kyle tucker went To. The, dodgers well baseball was in
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: a big was in a really dry spot about three. Years,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: ago okay attendants was going down for three. STRAIGHT years
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: tv ratings were going down for fifteen And Then rob,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: manford said pitchclocked speed the. Game up, defensive shift no.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Pitcher's hitting all of, a sudden you look up and, you're,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: like oh there's, more hits there's, more action there's. MORE
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: RUNS o Toddi, Goes, Angels dodgers and over the course
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: of the last couple, of Weeks the dodgers have. Gotten
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Better the Cubs added bregman, At third cabrera, The Pitcher
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: yankees weathers throwing another. Good Arm, the Yankees, the Cubs
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the dodgers all. Got, Better well, i'm sorry that's not bad.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: For baseball the nil and the transfer portal is not
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: bad for. College Football when miami And the Big tenor
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: humman In the texas schools are Humming And notre dame, is,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: hummon folks college football is in a. Great spot sport's
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: never been. About, perdue okay the, bottom line it's always been.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Top heavy, right now you've Got three texas schools Hum,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: In Miami, Notre dame big ten in the sects is still.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Wildly Popular and i've said this, About, baseball well what
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: about the Little, Guy, Mariners guardians brewers all great? Last
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: year by, the Way, the astros if, they're healthy With,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the cubs With, the dodgers With, the padres With, the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: phillies With, the yankees And the mets should, be okay
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: we'll all. Be Viable The pittsburgh pirates weren't winning twenty five.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Years ago they're not. Winning now. Nobody Cares so usually
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: when you have these big changes and it feels like there's, A,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: separation john there's a separation. In everything, You know tesla's
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: separated from, you know some. Automotive company there's a big separation,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: in banking in. College football if you look at the country,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: RIGHT now i was looking at baseball salary gaps. In
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Baseball saint louis right now is a. Tiny market they've
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: lost fifty fortune five hundred companies in the last, you know.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Thirty Years saint louis might as well have, you know
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: they're a little. Small fry they weren't thirty. Years ago
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: that's the Reality. Of america, the coasts, You, Know, florida
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: miami by, the way has become a. Tech center miami's
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: got a lot of money. Right now part of It
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: is miami's economy now is a big. Boy economy it
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: wasn't thirty, years ago it wasn't twenty. Years ago it.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Is NOW so i don't worry about. THE sport i
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: don't worry. ABOUT baseball i don't worry about. College football
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: look at, the ratings look at, the attendance look at,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the relevance look at. The revenue college football's. ON fire
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: i don't remember in the last twenty years caring more about.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: College football EVERY time i turn a Game on john
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: it's LIKE the nfl and watching. This weekend the. Weather's
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: horrible you can't find a seat in any of. These
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: games there's not a seat available in any of. These
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: games when they show these panoramic views.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Of, the stadium they did get lucky That the bears And,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: the Patriots the eagles, Have this seattle has this are
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: collegiate like atmospheres and collegiate like, fan bases and there
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: are some of the rare fan bases that does have
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: a pageantry a little bit like some of THESE college, i,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: mean Yeah, the bears that. Was FUN and i THINK,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: The nfl i'm. With you you turn on it's we
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: talked about the last. Seven Degrees the patriot game shirt didn't.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Look warm there ain't. A seat you couldn't even. Get
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: one if you, tried one they'd beat. You up two
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: it does not. Even AVAILABLE and, i mean look at
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: the gadding. PRICES tonight i mean the vibe, these games
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: they feel like a really. Big deal it's a little
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: foam mo action to the. Sport, people well and one
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: thing football really benefits from is the the inventories just
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: a lot smaller than these. OTHER sports, i mean if
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: you don't WATCH an, nba game you talked about sports for.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: A living if you miss a couple, of weeks like
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: you ain't missing anything, right now you're. Just not but,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: in football every game kind. Of matters in, the playoffs
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: they're not. A series i remember a couple of years
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Ago the Warriors played memphis in the. Second round they
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: lost a game by fifty points in a, playoff series
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: it didn't. EVEN matter, i mean, game later, they win
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: they're off to the. Next round and football every same.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: With tonight every, snap matters every. DRIVE matters, i mean
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Look At josh allen's. And tears he knows like it
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: felt like he's like his career's over something after losing
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the divisional round. Playoff game there is just an intensity
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: to FOOTBALL that. I listen it's not proud to, say
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: this but the amount of time we spend on, our
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: phone the way we're wired now and the urgency. To
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: everything football just benefits from that immediately to the way
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: society is kind. Of built, you know we're not a
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: patient place at. All anymore and IN the nfl is not.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: PATIENT either, i, mean look what are their ten, job
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: openings you know IN. The nfl look at college football,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: this year four or five, games in you, Weren't Winning,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Brian Kelly. James franklin there's just so, much money and fans,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: like that, like urgency let's go, next guy even IF it's,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: i mean we'll find out. THE bills, i mean if
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: it's going to, work out who they're. Gonna HIRE but
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: i think that adds a lot of juice to all.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: This, THING yeah, i, MEAN people i hear this a
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: lot about a lot of things, in life and maybe
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe as, I'VE aged i don't think this is a
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: contrarian TAKE because i always, hear blank isn't sustainable? In
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: baseball it's, not sustainable yess. It is If, the Cubs,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the Yankees, the Astros, the Dodgers the phillies, are great it's.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Very Sustainable, AND john i do not remember a college.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: FOOTBALL season i don't remember ONE that i was. More
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: engaged there were, more drama more. BIG games i mean
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the otter thing IS that i said this TODAY on
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: fs one patient is. A virtue a virtue doesn't virtue
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't win. Playoff Games new england Blew Out girad mayo in.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: One year clearly the. Right move Look. At seattle think
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: about this two years Ago Was Seattle pete carroll at.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: THE end i mean you looked up and, you went
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: what a. Lost franchise two years later they look like
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the best roster easily IN the nfl and In The
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: super bowl. Two years you can't do that IN the
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: nba because IN, the nba the players entering your franchiser
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: nineteen and twenty, years old they're. Not, men well now
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: college football. Is older the players ENTERING. THE nfl i
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Mean the patriots have like five rookies making. An impact
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: these are. Grown men their bodies, are full twenty three.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Years old they're ready to produce AT the nfl level.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: As rookies so you, can rebuild and so you can
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: rebuild much more quickly IN the nfl because a coaching
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: matters more than. Any sport so the Difference Between gerad
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Mayo And mike Rabel Or nat Hackett And sean payton
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: is fourteen points. A game. It's substantial it's the difference
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: between losing games and. Winning, games secondly your draft. Is
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: full you can have ten to eleven. Draft picks six
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: guys can play as rookies and they're twenty three year.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Old men they're productive from. Day one so football is.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Just built It's the league. Of hope it's built to turnaround.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Things quickly bears, last, Year, unwatchable Patriots, unwatchable seahawks two, years,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Ago Unwatchable Lakeroo jacksonville houston the Day Before Demiko ryans
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: is drafted unwatchable three thirteen. And one now you know
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: they're in, the playoffs winning games.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Every year did you see, THE quote i think it
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: was From either Russini or sando article In the athletic
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: that an, unnamed coach probably a, head coach said that
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: these are the thirty two worst owners we've. Ever had
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: did you? See that it kind of, Went, viral yeah
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: and my, thought, WAS now i just think all these
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: guys have more money. Than ever the Reason That stein
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: brenner or Ready to bartelow or someone could fire people
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: whenever they wanted back in, the day because they had
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: enough money, to bidwell couldn't afford to. Do IT most
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: nfl owners in, The Seventies JaMarcus russell got drafted number.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: One overall he set out the first four or five
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: games Because al davis did not have the money to
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: pay the, signing bonus had to wait for the media money.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: That colin that was not nineteen, eighty six that was
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: two thousand. And six think how FAR the nfl two thousand.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: And Six al davis did not have, enough money and
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: he probably wouldn't have been alone with some. Other, franchises
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: remember because at, the time rookies that were drafted one
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: or two got enormous amounts. Of Money Stafford. JaMarcus russell
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: think of where we're. At Now The, arizona cardinals who
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: are a, joke franchise can constantly pay people to go
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: away because he has so much money coming in FROM the.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Tv revenue so when you factor in Programs Like the
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: bills And, the ravens these big, money franchises they can
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: kind of do whatever. They want but these owners back
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: in the seventies, and eighties they would have paid people
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: to go away if they could have afforded to. Do
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: it when they were mad at, their coaches or they
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: just could enough so.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: THINGS change, i MEAN the nfl at the end of
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: their fiscal year right to CHECK every nfl, ownership, Group,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: right yeah what was the check? Last year four hundred
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: and forty. Million dollars so that's just WHAT the nfl
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: pays you to own. A team that's FROM the. Tv
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: deal do you know the money the game day Revenue At.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: SOFI stadium i Talked To stan kronkey and asked him what.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: It was he gave me a lot. Of insight he
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: wouldn't tell me. The number the game days.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Would again gross revenue forty million dollars.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: OR something i don't know for, THAT much i WILL
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: say i WOULD say i would just, say this over
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: the course of, A season i think you could easily
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: add another one hundred million of the rams, in beer,
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: food tickets game, Day revenue, sunday revenue it was at
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: eighty to.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: One hundred so now you're at. Four, fifty okay now
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: you're at. Five fifty won't And again i'm not even
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: sure if this counts the way they do it of
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: all the retail these Owners like craft Have, around Foxboro Around.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Gillette stadium so when your annual revenue just from your
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: your eight nine, home games and they also have, preseason
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: games WHICH are i think that's baked into the season.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Ticket thing then then also if you're, well run you
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: get home.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Playoff games you're not even factoring in all the other
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: stuff that goes on to. THE stadium i remember one
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: TIME when i worked For, The Eagles, don smolenski who's now.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: The president back then he was LIKE the vp used
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: to work out in, the morning AND sometimes i go
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: there and work out, before work, like early and then
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: you shower head. To WORK and i. Remember showering his
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: locker was by my Locker And taylor swift this, twenty
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: ten so She's Not taylor. Swift today had just played
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: a concert there on Like A, sunday saturday this is the.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Off SEASON and i.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: STARTED talking i love talking, to him picking his brain,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: business wise and HE said i, basically said how does his?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Work financially and he, essentially, said well when, they left
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: we cut her manager for her operation a seven. Figure,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: check again this is, twenty ten that's what we. Paid,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: her obviously they're making way more for. The event so
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: when you're talking concerts and all the events at, these
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: stadiums which ALL these nfl stadiums, are Hosting From taylor
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: swift To The rolling STONES, to wwe those revenue generators
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: that even if they PAY the Wwe Or taylor swift
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: five million dollars, ten minutes what are. They making so
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: when you factor in all that's why all these people
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: want these. New Stadiums mark davis changed the course Of
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: the raiders financially even before and his money guys came
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: in the moment they went into that Place in vegas
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: and that revenue generator started as Pump When jed york
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Moved To. LEVI stadium i mean they host Everything From
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: royal rumbles to any. Big concert that the money, they
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: make even if they only they don't get one hundred percent,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: of it even give them. Twenty percent if that's how
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: many days you're only hosting how many?
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Football?
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Games right so the money they have coming in from
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: these events. IS astronomical i mean you've been saying forever
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: there's a reason all these guys have these hundred and fifty,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: you know million. Dollar yachts they are and they sweating
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: the gas on.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: That thing you're getting the, lead checks you're getting the game,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Day REVENUE and i don't know what the game day.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: REVENUE is i just know So far i've been TOLD
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: so fi game day revenue. Is enormous, for real.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Doesn't he get two games because he rents It to
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: dean so he gets.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Both, Teams yeah i'm not sure how that. DEAL works
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: i Know the chargers have a hell of. A Deal
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: the spanos has built a. New facility they're rolling. In
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: money They Paid, harbass staffert, You Know. Khalil mack they
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: they they they're spending the most money they've. Ever spent
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: and to, your point these these stadiums. Broker, deals listen
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: when when people Like the, walmart Family the, walton family,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: you know are, buying teams you know that that's a pretty.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Good indication this is one of the great Businesses in
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: america and it's not. GOING away i usually judge sports
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: by what my, friends like and my friends kind of
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: bailed on baseball. For years they're kind of back. INTO
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: baseball i FEEL like. I am i care more. About
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: baseball the right teams, are winning the, sports faster it's much.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: More Consumable but i'm, RIGHT now i Feel like i've
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: kind of disconnected FROM. THE nba i am so INTO
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the nfl, college Football and i've been watching the off
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: season in baseball, because again the right teams. Are WINNING
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: the nba has always been so fearful, of Dynasties and,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: i'm like one of The reasons i'm back. In Baseball,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: the Yankees, the cubs And the dodgers, are good And
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the phillies. Are good those are like blue. BLOOD teams
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: i LIKE blue i like When, the Celtics, the Lakers,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the Warriors, THE knicks i like when. They're Good, THE
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: sixers i. DON'T know i when those teams.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: ARE good i think One Issue adam silver has is
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: financially they just three exer deal so they ain't have
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: to worry about anything in terms Of financial they have
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: a third of the league that doesn't try it starts
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Tanking in November and. December brutal that is something that
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: it kind of they battled it for. A while it
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: felt like it was getting. A little it is in
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: full force right now at these last couple, of years
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: and that those teams just do. The math those ten
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: teams are constantly playing the. Good teams you have unwatchable.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Product constantly even IN. The nfl you get. Bad teams
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: but the teams. Play hard no one's trying. To lose
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: that's why we make fun of the. Bad Teams the
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: titans tried to win every game, they, Played right so
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: THE, THE nba, i mean some of these teams, start losing which.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: IS sad, I mean i grew up LOVING, the nba
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: grew up Right around Sacramento By. ARCO arena, I, HONESTLY
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: colin i Don't think i've watched half OF the nba.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: This.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: YEAR now i followed, the sport, RIGHT like i know what's,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: going ON but i don't watch. The product and it
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: is and you hear the winhorse of the world like
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: thanking is a. It is they've poured gasoline on the fire. Right,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: now yes it's, really bad which understandable because there are
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: six or seven kids in. This draft that's the only
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: way to improve your team is a nail. A pick
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: but that's bad for the business of the. LEAGUE throughout
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: i don't know what's a six. MONTH season, i mean
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: you get a third of the league is, not trying
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: not trying actively. Not TRYING that's i, DON'T know i
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: don't know how you, fix it but that's that's a
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: that's a.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Major Issue Indiana hoosier football. Twenty seven Miami hurricaneses valiant effort,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: twenty one Third Straight big. Ten champ congrats To, the
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: hoosiers well earned sixteen. And zero that, HASN'T happened i
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: think Since a. YALE team i don't know what the
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: hell they were doing not playing with helmets back in
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: the eighteen hundred and. SIXTEEN games i don't think they
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: had helmets that. They did they didn't look like. These
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: helmets john is always good fun audios the volume