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ACOTAR: Is Elain Archeron the Most Dangerous? · Two Girls, One TBR

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  Hey book babes. Welcome back to 2 Girls 1 TBR.
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  I'm Rebecca, and today we are executing a total takeover of
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  the mass. First, we are combining the
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  forces to talk about the ultimate enigma of Perithean
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  Elaine Archeron. She has been sitting quietly in
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  the background for five books, baking cakes and planting
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  flowers, but the Internet has dug up some dark secrets that
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  might prove she is the most dangerous and complex character
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  in the Night Court. Plus, we are tracking hidden
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  fire magic across the sea on the continent.
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  interact with us on our main podcast at 2 girls 1 TBR.
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  But now today I am joined by two wonderful Co hosts, Vex and
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  Kirstie. How are you doing, ladies?
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  Good, I am great. How are you?
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  I'm doing good. We're under the heat Dome, by
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  the way, so it's over 100° if you go outside right now and
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  it's. I'm from Arizona.
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  I do not miss that that. Heat.
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  Oh, I don't like it at all. It's stupid and I hate it and I
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  can't wait for this to end. Just make sure don't stay high
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  on it. Oh yeah?
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  Well, I have my air conditioning going on.
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  Do you think I'm going outside in this?
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  So what are you girls reading right now?
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  Anything good? Christy.
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  Yeah, I'll go. I am reading again, not in the
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  Rebecca universe. I am reading The Paddock Club by
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  Mad Meryl. This is the second book she's
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  written. The first one came out last
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  year, which is really cute and it is an F1 romance.
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  Do you guys follow the F1? What's up 1?
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  Yeah, I don't. Know a Formula One?
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  It's like motor cars. Oh.
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  OK, No, no, when you. Said Paddock.
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  I was thinking it was horses. No, unfortunately.
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  Not oh, because see, in in Kentucky, as you know, there's
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  the Kentucky Derby and Churchill Downs and they always talk about
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  the paddock. So that's why I thought it was.
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  Horses, yes, I myself did spend 10 years working in the horse
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  industry in Australia, but obviously I don't do that
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  anymore. But yeah, very good book, would
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  recommend. I also just started maybe more
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  of your Alley on audio. Ice Planet Barbarians I think.
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  It's interesting. That's a monster romance.
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  Yeah, it was a monster romance, she said.
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  It's aliens. Oh, it's.
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  Aliens. Yes, this is my first dive into
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  alien romance and yeah. What are you thinking?
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  It's interesting. We.
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  Were right in there from from the get go.
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  Oh, we were. Interesting.
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  We were involved you. See, I I myself personally have
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  never dipped my toe into the the monster or alien world.
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  I'm not against it, I find it very intriguing.
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  But the one that has that gets me out because I see it every
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  now and then over a bookstagram and whatnot.
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  It's the one with the the OR the minotaur.
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  Is it the milking? Is it the milking farm or
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  something? So good morning glory milking
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  farm. Really you recommend it?
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  I see it also. I recommend it 100%.
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  It is so good and it is so like there's actually such a good
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  story behind it as well. So it does.
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  Have a good plot. Yes, it's fantastic.
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  So it's not all smut, it's. Not there's a lot, there's a
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  lot, but I had a great time. I think I gave it like. 4 or 4
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  1/2 stars like it was good. Now is that a stand alone or is
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  the continue on? It can.
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  I think there's four or five, but it continues with different,
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  different beasts, so it's not the same beast every time.
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  So it's not always a minotaur, It's something.
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  Is he a minotaur? Is that what he is at the
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  beginning? A minotaur and a human, but it
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  intriguing. It's about how many gallons of
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  ejaculation he has. I was like man that's a lot. 1
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  gallon is already too much. What?
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  That's a what? It is it.
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  Is but she's but I'm assuming it's not it.
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  There's a purpose behind this of why she's having to milk it.
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  Yeah, like there's a like a factory where they come in to be
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  milked and they get paid because the milk is is valuable.
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  It's valuable. Interest.
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  They get paid a lot of money and the more the more that they.
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  It's great. Yep.
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  The more money they make. Interesting.
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  Interesting. Yeah.
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  But I would recommend. Hilarious.
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  I've never read a monster or alien.
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  I didn't even know that was a thing until like I started book
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  talk and people were asking me and I saw this book all over the
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  place and I was like, I don't know, like how I feel about it,
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  you know, And so all about the Fae, all about, you know, all of
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  that. So I'm just like, is it a far
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  stretch? Like I don't know.
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  But I didn't realize all this stuff that you're saying right
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  now was like a part of the thing, you know, in the.
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  Book you don't like between like the books like that.
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  We love to read that. It might be an interesting
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  palette cleanser because it's something different maybe.
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  I don't know. Like dungeon collar Carl, I'm I
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  know we didn't give them to me yet, but that's also that same
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  alien ish vibe out of the the fantasy area.
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  So yeah, maybe it would be a good palate cleansing like
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  series to throw in, you know, test the waters.
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  Give it a go. And I know they do like monster
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  cons, like for the that's just in that niche and stuff.
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  So I wonder what that's like because I, I, the one girl that
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  I talked to on Bookstagram, she's in my little book group.
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  She goes to these things and she was dressed up like an octopus
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  woman, like she got a headpiece made and all kinds of stuff like
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  that. But I know she like leans
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  heavily into the monster ones. But again, I have not.
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  I have not dipped my toe, but we know Kirstie definitely has
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  dipped her toe. Well, you know what?
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  The word that's amazing. I've seen people doing very dark
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  parties invite only situations where there's a goal that
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  everybody's aware of and they're they're dressed as, you know,
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  animals, monsters, whatever, hiding them, their identity.
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  But there's a whole that that whole genre, that niche, they
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  have their whole like thing on like like porn and stuff.
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  Yeah, there's yeah. And like the the parties
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  together. Now the next one, I don't
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  understand. I mean, myself person, this is
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  me, but I know there's like there are people that are out
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  there that like to get the tails, like a fox tail and
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  stuff, but it's a it's yeah, it goes in.
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  Yeah, it goes. In permanently.
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  But it's furry. I don't know if it's furry, but
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  it's somebody that has AI think they just run around with it,
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  but it's like it has the you just.
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  Run around. The thing, it goes in in your
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  ass and then it hangs out. It's the tail.
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  Oh. Yeah, yeah.
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  I was thinking, I thought, you know, like the one that you tie
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  around yourself and then it's like a.
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  Little fluffy no. You're not talking about the
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  fluffy tail like a fairy. And then this one goes in.
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  That's what I thought you were talking about.
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  Cool. Now people are doing that too.
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  No for me. Do you boots?
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  I don't want to. I don't want that in my ass.
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  No, maybe that's OK. I don't.
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  There's that. Yeah, they're walking around,
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  but I don't want to yuck, yuck. Well, no, I don't want to yap if
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  anybody's Yum myself personally, I don't want to do it.
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  Well, this was at like party. Well, this was a number of years
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  ago. I was talk I I went to this one
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  store and I was talking to this girl.
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  How did this conversation happen?
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  I still don't know, but she was telling me that she had like,
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  like she had the beads like up inside her and she was walking
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  up a flight of steps and they fell out.
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  I feel like it would hurt walking around with something
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  back there versus like I know in the lady area.
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  This horse was in the lady, Well, she had it in the beads
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  and they fell out when she was walking up steps.
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  Yeah, 'cause I think people were like around her and stuff when
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  that happened. Have you never put anything up
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  there? In the other area.
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  Yeah. By accident during some
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  situation yeah he likes to keep saying you know remember that
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  one time I'm like yeah, I'm good like we're not I was I was on
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  accident so that's not I have an issue like an ick with that just
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  because of the whole. I don't find it comfortable.
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  I don't find it comfortable at all.
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  It's now some people, they love it.
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  It's it's whatever. But me now that's a hard pass.
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  I didn't. I don't enjoy it so.
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  All the time when I was younger. Now I feel like I've matured a
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  little bit, you know? I'd rather have things that
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  bring me my joy of it that doesn't bring any form of joy.
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  Again, I've tried. It wasn't exciting, I didn't
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  like it. And so and I don't want to have
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  a one of those plugs. That's what I'm going with a
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  butt plug because that's why I always laugh about because the
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  the things you can get for your Kindle, the little dust plug,
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  they call them butt plugs too. That's awesome.
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  But yeah, I don't, Yeah, I don't want to do.
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  But now the other thing now I did see this.
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  Now you can get a tail that's magnetic and you can put it on
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  the back of your car and you can wag your tail on the back of
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  your car. I'm not sure what people are
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  doing. I'm.
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  Not sure what they're. Doing.
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  Eyelashes. Cat or something?
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  What do people do this in Australia, Kirsty?
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  Do they do weird things like this?
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  People have eyelashes for their cars too, like the headlights.
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  And we get the rope big. I have seen that.
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  Not in my own country. I just don't.
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  Don't you have better things to spend your money on, like books?
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  I don't. You'd be surprised.
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  You would be very surprised. Oh you will.
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  You'll get a taste of it when you're here to see what people
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  spend their money on here. The only obnoxious thing that
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  people put on their cars in Australia is around Australia
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  Day. So like I suppose your
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  Independence Day. We have Australia Day in
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  January. Very controversial.
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  Anyway, people put massive. On.
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  Obnoxiously large flags. Oh yeah, that happens here too,
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  for certain individuals for some reason.
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  Yeah, it's. Probably the same vibe.
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  We call them bogans. Oh.
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  Like. Similar.
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  Yes, similar to a redneck. Oh yeah.
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  Yeah, it's so. Funny, like, like here, you will
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  see a lot of men that, in my opinion, are highly compensating
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  for something. So they get a very large truck
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  and then, yeah, and they have giant tires and they don't get
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  out of the truck and they're just little tiny men.
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  That's just something. There's an observation.
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  Just an observation. You see, I mean, we're in
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  Kentucky. You see a lot of interesting
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  things here. And Texas?
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  Yep, very true. So you'll, you'll have, you're
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  going to be in Alaska and you're going to make your way down.
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  So you'll see some interesting, I'm sure you will see
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  interesting people. We won't be going any further E
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  then Wyoming, Montana, Utah. Arizona you'll still be West
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  Coast or West yeah Westish, but you'll still see interesting
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  people. I'm.
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  Sure we will, I saw a few hours in February.
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  OK. So that's when you plan to be
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  that far down by that point. Oh, no, no, in February, just
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  gone. Oh.
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  When you were just here. OK, what I should?
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  Say yeah. February is a great time to
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  visit Arizona and being from there, I miss the mountains and
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  the sunsets and all of that and I miss it so much.
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  But February is awesome time. Yeah, a long time.
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  It was in Texas. In Texas, I've been here
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  20/16/14, so 12 years, something like that.
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  Yeah. But I left Arizona when I was
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  eighteen, way before that. Just got emancipated at 16.
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  I had an opportunity to to get out.
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  So I was like, I'm done. My family, I'm actually, my
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  children are 9 generations born there.
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  We flew on purpose to have them born because it's so rare to
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  have so many generations in a state, especially in America,
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  just because we're all over and scattered.
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  So I'm 8 generations born there. My family pretty much pioneered
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  there to build it. And so my whole everybody's over
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  there and I was ready to get out at 18.
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  So yeah. But now I miss it.
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  Being an adult now, I'm just like, I miss the not the
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  summers, but mountains, sunsets, you know, all of that very much.
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  You see, I see I'm originally from Pennsylvania.
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  So I had, I think I was from my on my mom's side.
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  I was like 3rd to 5th generation.
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  That's it there because, because, because my grandmother,
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  her parents came from Italy. So there's that.
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  But now, but now my dad's side, they, they've been here like
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  since sixteen, 1700s. So, so there's a lot of
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  generations there, but mostly they were in Pennsylvania and
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  that well, New England, that whole area.
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  And then I moved to Kentucky because that's where my
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  husband's from. That's awesome. 2 of my 3 kids
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  have been born here. One was in Pennsylvania.
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  So did your family give you a hard time?
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  Because mine was really all over the place.
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  Like you can't. Absolutely.
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  Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely.
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  I don't, Well, actually I don't speak to a lot of my family, but
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  but yeah, a lot of my family, they they stayed in that area
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  and never left. A few have left and, you know,
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  have gone other places, but but a lot of them even just still
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  came back. I tried it once I went back,
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  it's not the same. When you go back home is never
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  home. It's not the same because where
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  home is is now here. I feel this is home.
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  This feels like home. But when we go back, it was not.
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  Kirsten, you have the traveling bug.
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  Will you miss where you're, you know, where your house and that
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  is, do you miss that or do you just just love the traveling
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  bug? I miss the people, but a similar
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  thing. I don't really talk to a lot of
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  my family. My dad lives on the other side
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  of the country, so I don't see him very often anyway.
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  But yeah, no, just the people. It's a beautiful state, don't
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  get me wrong, but it's small population wise, not size wise,
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  yeah. So I don't miss it, no.
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  But. I imagine I'm going to miss
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  social interaction with people and not just spending time with
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  my husband in a car. But you have me, you have me,
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  and then you'll only be a few hours behind me, so.
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  I. Know right now your future
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  woman. You're in.
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  You are technically in tomorrow. I am.
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  For us and we're in yesterday. Yes, so cool.
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  Yes. I have a lot of technology, not
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  all the time, but in cases like this connecting, it's so cool,
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  yeah. What now, Vex?
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  What are you reading? Now I'm doing audio for dungeon
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  crawler Carl, I barely listen to audiobooks so it's already been
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  like 2 months and I'm on chapter 35 or something.
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  Book 1 so dungeon crawler and then arc read for trapped in
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  aquaf aquaf. It's hilarious.
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  I made a post on it. It's so funny for palate
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  cleanser. But it's fantasy where the
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  beginning of the book it's two best friends.
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  One is obsessed with a fantasy series and forces her best
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  friend to read it who hates it and is just like everything is
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  so cliche and this is what is this mate bond without having
• 19:10
  any choice involved and what is a growl and like this is just
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  doesn't make sense and like super hating on it.
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  They're having a sleepover and decide to go to the store, get
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  in a car accident and die while they're fighting over this book.
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  And they end up waking up inside of the book series and they're
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  super in shock. And 1 is just like what's going
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  on? A male comes out and is like
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  we're mates and that woman is like, oh hell no, Get Me Out of
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  here. And the other friend is just
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  like, this is amazing. Like I love this so much and
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  like be my mate, you know. And so the book comes out August
• 19:49
  1st, but it is so funny. Like she even references so many
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  things in our time but in the realm.
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  So she had just said I don't know if this is a Jumanji
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  situation where if I die here, whatever is going on with my
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  body there does that die? Like it's so funny.
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  So anyways I'm reading that and then I've got so many art greeds
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  after this but and me writing my own book as well so.
• 20:14
  Just a lot all over the board. And I'd really would love to
• 20:17
  reread Akatar. I'd love to reread Throne of
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  Glass 'cause I just got the fancy, you know, acrylics, like
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  Oh my gosh, it's so pretty. And then my 4 year old son, I
• 20:29
  was reading them books at night yesterday or something and they
• 20:33
  don't really come in my room and that's like where my books are.
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  So I was reading and he was just like, look.
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  And I was like, I know, like, do you want to touch it?
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  Like that's so cool. Like I'm sent it to work but.
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  Gorilla pics does beautiful, beautiful screen edges.
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  Chelsea has. I think she has the same set
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  issue for throwing a glass and then she has ACOTAR.
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  But she said she doesn't know what's going to happen now
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  because book 6 is coming out and she and plus her set is from the
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  whole AI problem that they had because they did AI art or
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  something and they had offered like people could send them back
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  in, they sand them down and then redo them.
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  But she still has that set. So she's wondering what's going
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  to happen when book 6 comes out in October and Book 7, etcetera,
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  etcetera. So I don't know.
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  But they are gorgeous. Christie, you said you'd have
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  that set too. Yes.
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  Yes, I have the Throne of Gloss set as well.
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  Yeah. I thought about the ACOTAR to do
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  that, but again, like you mentioned, I was like just wait.
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  I just got to turn a glass. Like calm down.
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  I can wait until the other books come out, make sure it's
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  complete. Somebody had mentioned Crescent
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  City has a book for. Yes, now this is from what I
• 21:54
  understand, it's going to she is going to be doing a book for and
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  but she hasn't said anything definitively, but I it's going
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  to be like another storyline because I I believe like Hunt
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  and and what's Bryce? There we go.
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  I think their stories is complete their.
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  I see. Their love story, I should say
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  their love story. But do I think Bryce could
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  continue on in the stories and being involved in it?
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  Yes. But I think this is my opinion.
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  I think it's going to be the Ocean Queen.
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  I think it's going to be her story or the River Queen, one or
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  the other. That would be cool because I
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  know that our acrylic pics also has Crescent City as well.
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  And I was like OK, so I'll buy that instead of the Acatar.
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  But then I saw that post and I was like wait, wait, wait, like
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  what do you mean hold on. So I didn't buy anything else
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  but Throne of Glass. How that concluded?
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  That's it. Like.
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  I I have not read Turn of Glass, Kirstie, have you?
• 23:01
  You've read Turn of Glass now. Now I will be talking.
• 23:05
  Now I do talk things on here. Oh, also, everybody that is
• 23:09
  listening to us right now, this is again, this is one of our
• 23:12
  ACOTAR miniseries episodes. So if you have not read ACOTAR,
• 23:18
  Throne of Glass, Crescent City, there will be spoilers.
• 23:22
  So if you have not, this probably wouldn't be the episode
• 23:25
  for you. But if you don't care, you're
• 23:27
  very welcome to continue to listen to us.
• 23:30
  Well, I'm going to step into our little episode here today.
• 23:35
  Oh, also, ladies, I am still reading Kingdoms of Silent
• 23:38
  Sorrows by AG Harris. That's what I'm reading.
• 23:41
  I'm. Right now, do you like it?
• 23:44
  Oh, I love it. Oh, I absolutely love it.
• 23:46
  It's just I'm slow right now. It's because I've been doing so
• 23:48
  much with the podcast because we've changed a lot of things
• 23:51
  here. So I've been really busy doing
• 23:52
  that. So I haven't had as much.
• 23:55
  And plus also I've been sucked into the Netflix show Sweet
• 24:00
  Magnolias. I'm I'm on season.
• 24:03
  I'm on season 4 now. Oh wow, I.
• 24:06
  Had the shocking episode happen but if you haven't watched it I
• 24:10
  can't tell you. Oh, that's a shocking thing.
• 24:13
  The end of Season 3. This is at the end of season 4.
• 24:18
  I'm in season 4. Something shocking happens.
• 24:21
  Oh, I don't know. I was shocked.
• 24:24
  I was shocked. It shook me.
• 24:27
  So I can't tell you any more than that, but it was good.
• 24:30
  So I'm so I'm watching that and I believe just this this past
• 24:35
  month, season 5 has started rolling out.
• 24:39
  So so I'm getting close to being caught up.
• 24:42
  So if you've never watched it, it's on Netflix.
• 24:44
  It's called Sweet Magnolias. My husband makes fun of it.
• 24:47
  I love it. And if I could live in that
• 24:52
  fictional little world, I would. Because they have like, it's a
• 24:57
  very sweet little hometown. They have all kinds of like,
• 25:00
  it's beautiful places. Everybody's in everybody's
• 25:03
  business. But it's just all the men have 6
• 25:08
  packs. I don't.
• 25:09
  It's just it's a good show. You need to watch it.
• 25:12
  Sounds awesome. It's like Gilmore goes, but on
• 25:15
  crack. I really, I've been so obsessed
• 25:20
  with my writing the last two months.
• 25:22
  I've like barely getting in my reading and let alone TV and now
• 25:26
  soccer going on. My husband's like you're not
• 25:28
  going to watch with me. And I'm like, I've got things to
• 25:30
  do. And he's like, but those are
• 25:32
  hobbies. Like this is once in a four
• 25:34
  years and I was like, that's fine, but deadlines.
• 25:37
  I don't know what to tell you. I know it's a hobby, but no,
• 25:39
  like I'm obsessed. So that's where my energy.
• 25:42
  Don't I? Don't I have to tell you all, I
• 25:45
  don't watch soccer. You don't watch it.
• 25:48
  No, no, I watch. I watch.
• 25:52
  I watch American football and I watch basketball.
• 25:56
  Not NBA, but I do watch college football or college football.
• 26:00
  College basketball and the NFL. That's what I watch.
• 26:05
  Yeah, I don't. Understand American football.
• 26:08
  Like American football? Yeah, American football I don't
• 26:11
  get, but basketball is fun. Like I love watching basketball.
• 26:14
  I don't like watching the NBA. That doesn't it?
• 26:17
  I don't know. It just doesn't.
• 26:19
  I don't know. They've changed a lot even with
• 26:20
  college basketball and stuff now that they're paying players the
• 26:24
  the NIL deals or whatever it is to me, I think it took a little
• 26:28
  bit of the sparkle from it, but we'll see how it goes over the
• 26:31
  next few years. But Oh yeah, got to remember,
• 26:34
  I'm in Kentucky. If you know anything about
• 26:37
  Kentucky, the University of Kentucky is very big here.
• 26:42
  You are either a Kentucky Wildcat fan, which is our house
• 26:46
  because my husband huge Kentucky fan, or you're a Louisville
• 26:51
  Cardinal fan, which my husband does not particularly like.
• 26:57
  And, and so so, yeah, so it's one or the other.
• 27:01
  And then the NFL were Steeler fans, Pittsburgh Steelers.
• 27:05
  So there's that. Nice.
• 27:08
  OK, so now, so now let's since we did all this, let's get into
• 27:12
  our deep dive here on all these weird theories.
• 27:16
  Now again, I'm going to let everybody know that these are
• 27:19
  not necessarily our theories. These are theories that are out
• 27:23
  on the Internet. And let's see if any of these
• 27:27
  what you guys think. Do you think they hold weight?
• 27:29
  Do you think there's validity to them?
• 27:31
  Or do you think this is completely wrong?
• 27:34
  So now let's talk about Elaine. She keeps disappearing in the
• 27:39
  court of Silver Plains. Cassia notices that she keeps
• 27:42
  slipping away, claiming she's tending to an elderly fairy
• 27:46
  garden, but he flags some weird tightness in her face and senses
• 27:51
  she is hiding something massive. The Internet theories are
• 27:55
  absolutely chilling. Either Elaine is an unconscious
• 27:58
  spy for the death God Cauchy, or is she actively harboring the
• 28:03
  missing library shadow monster Bree Axis inside her own
• 28:08
  subconscious. Have you, have you seen that
• 28:12
  theory that they're? Saying I do like the theory that
• 28:15
  she's Braaxis. Yeah, I could get around that.
• 28:18
  I mean, it's there's no way it's true, but I could get around it.
• 28:23
  Well, I'm still shook. The Braaxis is a she.
• 28:27
  I did not. I did not see that coming when
• 28:31
  she said that. But I love the way that it.
• 28:36
  Yeah. And thinking about it, be her
• 28:38
  harboring the monster like in her, is that what it's saying?
• 28:43
  Like harboring? That's.
• 28:44
  Because the whole thing is that it under the library it's
• 28:47
  massive and needs and essentially wasn't there
• 28:51
  something about it not being able to escape or doesn't want
• 28:54
  to like that's like it couldn't get out.
• 28:59
  Well, Bri Axis is the embodiment of fear.
• 29:02
  We do know that and now I have my own theory of who I think
• 29:07
  Briaxis is because I I have a theory of what the library is.
• 29:13
  I because now remember all of Sarah's worlds are
• 29:17
  interconnected and if you remember there's 7 levels of
• 29:22
  hell. How many levels of the library
• 29:25
  are there? There is 7.
• 29:28
  Could possibly Briaxis have been a guardian for a portal to hell?
• 29:34
  That is what I think Briacsis is.
• 29:38
  That makes sense. That's my my thought.
• 29:42
  Sorry. So now here's this one.
• 29:43
  So since we're thinking that Elaine is possibly an unwilling
• 29:47
  sleeper agent, OK, maybe she doesn't even realize that she's
• 29:52
  a sleeper agent. I mean, there's always that
• 29:53
  possibility. There's something weird with
• 29:55
  Elaine. I think we all can attest to
• 29:58
  that, don't you think? There's some, yeah, yeah.
• 30:02
  All right. Well in in a court of Silver
• 30:06
  Flames, Cassian documents Elaine's continuously slipping
• 30:10
  away from the House of Winn unannounced.
• 30:14
  Her mask like tightness suggests she's harboring a massive
• 30:17
  secret. The theory states her human ex
• 30:20
  fiance Grayson, whose family was fanatically anti fae and allied
• 30:26
  with corrupt Queens, slipped a piece of jewelry onto her, a
• 30:30
  black Onyx Volgren, from the Throne of Glass.
• 30:35
  That's right. And his it wasn't his father,
• 30:38
  like trying to take over and like trying to be the one ruling
• 30:44
  and all of that stuff. And he's like, really evil.
• 30:48
  Well, his debt, well, we don't. Grayson's and him and his
• 30:51
  father, they absolutely hated the fae.
• 30:53
  Absolutely hated the fae. And they had, remember, they had
• 30:57
  that big large compound, remember, they were going to
• 31:00
  fight the fae and whatever. But the piece, the ring that he
• 31:04
  gave Elaine, remember, it was, it was iron, remember?
• 31:09
  And then it had Blackstone. Like against.
• 31:11
  Yeah, yeah. Since now both of you have read
• 31:15
  Throne of Glass, what is a black Onic bold ring?
• 31:20
  You don't know. Because I didn't read.
• 31:22
  I didn't read Throne of Glass. It's a pretty deep question,
• 31:25
  Kirstie. Do you want to go like it's?
• 31:29
  Complex. It's very complex.
• 31:31
  How to answer that without taking 20 minutes?
• 31:37
  Well, is it something that gives them power or something like
• 31:40
  that? It allowing them to be
• 31:42
  possessed, yeah. OK, OK.
• 31:45
  Because I know there's something with possession.
• 31:47
  Yeah, and then the being overtakes the body, and then
• 31:51
  you, the person and the being fight until the being.
• 31:57
  Could take over completely. 99.99% of the time.
• 32:01
  So they have to put on, but is is it?
• 32:04
  Is it always a ring? It's a collar, but this is a
• 32:07
  ring. But it could it.
• 32:08
  Can be a ring. Yeah, it doesn't have to be.
• 32:10
  Yeah, Yeah, it can be. Then can't take it off.
• 32:16
  Don't, I mean, that is possible. I mean, Elaine, because she
• 32:18
  keeps wearing that ring. I don't think she's ever taken
• 32:21
  it off. That would be crazy.
• 32:23
  That would be crazy if that ring and that makes sense also
• 32:27
  because look, if you think about it, this is something I thought
• 32:31
  about in my own book. So I'm trying not to like say
• 32:32
  too much, but having even though you're human, right and you're
• 32:37
  trying to come against the Fay like Gray, what's his name?
• 32:40
  Grayson, his Grayson Grayson, his father.
• 32:43
  I don't. Remember what his dad's name is?
• 32:45
  I don't remember how it is, Grayson.
• 32:47
  So he's like coming to go head to head with the fae.
• 32:51
  He can't physically right. He doesn't have that ability.
• 32:55
  So he's got to find another method.
• 32:58
  So if and he's so high, horse hi ho, hi Gung, hung Gung.
• 33:04
  Whatever. Gung ho about going after them
• 33:09
  that that fully. Like I get that, that would be
• 33:13
  crazy because I totally forgot about them.
• 33:18
  Again, I don't know. All right now, try this one out
• 33:22
  then. All right now, do you remember
• 33:24
  when Elaine was having her visions?
• 33:26
  She has a vision of a black box. Do you remember that?
• 33:31
  It's a black Onyx box. Now, this validates her early
• 33:36
  seer vision, seeing in a court of Wings and Ruin where she
• 33:39
  frantically mutters about a black box with a soul trapped
• 33:44
  inside in Slavic folklore. Because remember, Sarah takes a
• 33:49
  lot of everything that we're reading in Acutar.
• 33:52
  It's from many different, like folklore, you know, pathology,
• 33:56
  that kind of stuff. OK, let's see here.
• 33:59
  The exact same source material, by the way, for Koshi.
• 34:02
  But you know, Koshi. Koshi the Deathless literally
• 34:05
  hides his soul outside his body inside a secret box.
• 34:10
  Elaine's mind is already actively plugged into his soul
• 34:13
  container. So is that is his soul in this
• 34:16
  box and is it I, I don't know, I thought, what do we think on
• 34:21
  that? Because they wanted to find it
• 34:23
  before he did, right? It's all like coming to me like
• 34:26
  something. I know she mentions it because
• 34:30
  see, now there's two mentions of boxes across two different
• 34:33
  series because it makes me question things.
• 34:37
  There's this one, supposedly this black Onyx one or whatever,
• 34:39
  the black box. And then if you're reading
• 34:42
  Crescent City, the one girl that what does she, was she a Wraith,
• 34:47
  I think, or something? The one that was with Hunt And
• 34:52
  remember when they they did their whole thing And the, the
• 34:55
  Archangel Micah there, he takes her and takes her soul and he
• 34:59
  puts her in the box. It's a crystal box and he throws
• 35:02
  her into the water. So I mean, both boxes are
• 35:05
  technically the same kind of thing, two different.
• 35:09
  And I didn't finish the full Crescent City, but this box
• 35:12
  moment with the friend who stuck there for all eternity now
• 35:15
  doesn't. And she's conscious.
• 35:18
  Yeah, and it's like you can't just leave her there.
• 35:20
  Like there's got to be. And I don't know if it's
• 35:22
  completed like through Books 3, but because I'm almost done with
• 35:26
  two, but for Agatar and this being the sole thing, like, I
• 35:32
  totally see that there's some sort of boxing.
• 35:35
  And what if the guy, what's the guy's name who made the the
• 35:39
  collars, the bad guy heroin. Yeah.
• 35:42
  That isn't because didn't he make these him and and Maeve and
• 35:48
  and his brother like that, this iron and all of that was made to
• 35:54
  for them to be able to seep into our world, Right.
• 35:56
  Yep. So those boxes.
• 36:00
  Yeah, Yeah. Would they be from there
• 36:03
  universe? Do you remember where those
• 36:04
  colors came from? Like who made them?
• 36:07
  No. No, I assumed it was a Maeve
• 36:10
  situation. I'm wondering how will Grayson
• 36:15
  and his father be able to control the Valk if they're
• 36:21
  human? No way, but who can control
• 36:24
  that? I thought only Arowind could
• 36:26
  control them. Yeah, I also don't know.
• 36:31
  The other thing we don't know, right, is like we know all the
• 36:35
  world's are connected and we obviously know that Crescent
• 36:40
  City and Acatar are on a similar timeline, but Throne of Glass, I
• 36:47
  have a feeling that's not on the same timeline.
• 36:51
  I don't think so. I I don't I don't think Throne
• 36:53
  of Glass is on the same timeline, but I think I do feel
• 36:56
  it is tied together because we do know, because Sarah admitted
• 37:00
  it and she said it like when star fall was happening and that
• 37:05
  star was falling, that red shooting star and Reese.
• 37:09
  It was was it? What's the girl from throwing a
• 37:12
  glass Eilan. She was falling through the
• 37:14
  worlds and he slowed her descent.
• 37:16
  Yes. So yeah.
• 37:19
  So it is tide. So cool.
• 37:21
  I don't know. But was I really pregnant?
• 37:24
  Pharaoh was pregnant during it. That's when.
• 37:27
  But that's what we don't know. It happened.
• 37:29
  Was. We don't know that it was.
• 37:31
  Right. The first.
• 37:32
  Yeah. Whatever Hosie Watson is his
• 37:34
  name is, we don't know that it was him, right?
• 37:38
  It could have been anyone. Which is.
• 37:42
  What was him the sorry the the the pregnancy?
• 37:46
  We don't know if that was the first pregnancy, right?
• 37:49
  Well, yeah, we don't know what pregnancy it was.
• 37:51
  That's correct. So I.
• 37:54
  Also feel like if you're falling through, well, you could fall
• 37:56
  through different times as well, right?
• 37:58
  For sure. Well, we know there's a lot of
• 38:00
  interesting stuff in Prythian and in their world because we
• 38:05
  know there's these misty areas. There's, you know, where the
• 38:09
  prison is, It's a misty area that we know in Supreme Court,
• 38:12
  there's a misty area. When you're reading Crescent
• 38:15
  City, there's a misty area. You know, they're all tied
• 38:19
  together. So could there be in her world?
• 38:23
  And there's misty areas, I mean. There's no way that Reese in
• 38:27
  Reese And's mom isn't from throne for us.
• 38:35
  I'm putting it. Interesting.
• 38:36
  What? And Reese's mom?
• 38:39
  Reese's mom, I think she's from throne for us, from that world.
• 38:47
  Now, see, I think, all right, get ready.
• 38:50
  I think, I think Ferris and the Archeron, Mama Archeron, I think
• 38:56
  she is from Throne of Glass World too.
• 38:59
  Yeah. Oh, 'cause she.
• 39:04
  Had Wait, what did Christy say? No, I changed my mind about what
• 39:07
  I was going to say. It was too controversial.
• 39:11
  Too controversial. That's what this whole episode
• 39:14
  is about. What is your controversial
• 39:17
  thought? No, I was going to say.
• 39:18
  Now do you imagine if they were related?
• 39:22
  Oh. Yeah, too comfortable.
• 39:25
  Yeah, right, because they were already.
• 39:26
  Well, that's right. If they're faded mates, they
• 39:28
  can't be related, right? Supposed faded mates unless he
• 39:32
  manipulated things because we know he can do things but
• 39:36
  that's. That's for another.
• 39:38
  Yeah, another episode. Let's start.
• 39:40
  Going that's for another episode now, OK, because we're focusing
• 39:43
  on the crazy Elaine because again, she's too sweet.
• 39:47
  I think she's crazy. OK now this is the next one.
• 39:50
  Is she a Braxis vessel like we were talking about?
• 39:54
  If she isn't a sleeper agent then is Braxis hiding inside her
• 40:00
  when the bargain when he was or she?
• 40:02
  I'm sorry she was bargaining with Farrah.
• 40:06
  Braxis didn't ask for blood, but asked for a window to see the
• 40:12
  stars. A seer's mind is literally a
• 40:16
  cosmic window into the tapestry of time.
• 40:20
  So is he or she? I'm sorry, Inside Elaine.
• 40:24
  That's why Elaine's acting so weird.
• 40:25
  Because Elaine isn't all Elaine. Do we think she doesn't know?
• 40:33
  Maybe she doesn't know that Briaxis is inside her.
• 40:38
  I mean, Briaxis has been missing since ACA war.
• 40:42
  We do not know where she went. We know she's not dead.
• 40:46
  See, this is where I always get. But like the bone Carver Strega,
• 40:53
  I do not believe they are dead. And again, unless you see it on
• 40:59
  paper and see it actually wrote out that they're dead, then I'll
• 41:04
  believe it. But they were death gods.
• 41:07
  That little bit that battle is what took them out and killed
• 41:10
  them. I just don't, I don't believe
• 41:13
  it. So if Briaxis is out there
• 41:16
  running around, obviously not dead, I mean, is it possible
• 41:20
  that she went inside Elaine? Because remember, Elaine is the
• 41:24
  one that killed the King of Highburn, right?
• 41:28
  She oh, I hit my headphones real hard.
• 41:30
  She says, you know, she stabbed him in the neck.
• 41:33
  I'm kind of leaning a bit more now to the sleeper cell
• 41:37
  situation because she also, I don't feel like she's stupid,
• 41:44
  right? And I mean, she's she's knows
• 41:47
  what she's doing is what I mean by that.
• 41:49
  Her choices are very immature. You know, like just because
• 41:55
  she's had so much pampering and when everybody else is
• 41:59
  suffering, it's always been about her.
• 42:01
  She's always had everybody essentially like up her ass.
• 42:06
  Are you OK? Are you OK?
• 42:06
  Make sure she's safe, make sure she's protected.
• 42:09
  And so she really wants this guy Grayson, right?
• 42:13
  She was very obsessed with him. Like really there was very clear
• 42:18
  signs that she should not have pursued this and is still like,
• 42:22
  I'm fell in love. And so now in the middle of her
• 42:25
  still having very strong feelings went to the Faye world.
• 42:29
  And so, yeah, you've got Lucy and and Azrael and all of this
• 42:32
  stuff, but a first love like that is something so hard to
• 42:37
  break. And especially if you've got
• 42:40
  that your young love on top of that, you've never had it
• 42:44
  before. And she felt like he could give
• 42:46
  her what she wanted, that if he, the king, is wanting to use her
• 42:53
  to go kill the the king. Hybrid.
• 42:57
  I'm not saying that right, Hybrid, you know what I'm
• 43:00
  saying? She used the yes, the king of
• 43:02
  Highburn, to go kill him, and then she keeps disappearing.
• 43:06
  For me, I think it's just that she's wanting to use that time
• 43:12
  that now her sisters have more on their plates.
• 43:14
  Now they're not as focused on her.
• 43:17
  She's using that opportunity to slip away for more of a intent
• 43:23
  that she's being used without thinking she's being used right.
• 43:27
  She's just like, this is what's going to make him love me and
• 43:30
  accept me for being Fae is if I help him, he's going to marry
• 43:33
  me. He's still going he loves me for
• 43:35
  me not paying attention to the fae anymore and like sort of a
• 43:39
  her mind is very malleable. You know what I mean?
• 43:43
  When? It's possible.
• 43:45
  I mean it is possible but I mean they had such a hate for for the
• 43:50
  fae and now that Elaine is fae I don't even know if Grayson would
• 43:55
  even see her because he has it so embedded inside.
• 43:59
  Him they're trying to kill. Them they're trying to take.
• 44:02
  Unless they're, you know, unless, well, unless they're
• 44:05
  using her as to get secrets or something, she'd be stupid
• 44:09
  enough to do it. I don't know.
• 44:11
  Well, let me ask you that this question here, both of you,
• 44:14
  because she both read turn of class.
• 44:16
  Now we know the King of Highburn.
• 44:18
  We don't know his name. Who is he?
• 44:22
  Now they have theories of who he is.
• 44:25
  Now, I don't know who this person is.
• 44:27
  I've heard the name, but they said they believe that he is the
• 44:31
  brother of Dorian. That is who they believe the
• 44:34
  king of Hyburn is. Because again, Hyburn is the
• 44:38
  island or the place where he's at.
• 44:41
  It's not his last name. And all the time when I was
• 44:43
  reading it, I just kept thinking, oh, that's who he is.
• 44:46
  No, it's King of Highburn. So do we.
• 44:50
  Do we think it is possible that this is Dorian's brother?
• 44:55
  Again, I don't know who Dorian is, but you 2 do.
• 44:58
  Dorian's brother disappears in the last Book of Throne of Glass
• 45:03
  with his mom. Yeah, we never hear from him.
• 45:08
  Again. And we barely hear from him
• 45:09
  through the series too. Yeah, we don't.
• 45:11
  In hiding. We just know he's his youngest.
• 45:15
  That's possible. So then again, it's possible.
• 45:19
  Yeah. So now.
• 45:20
  Mom and all of this, we don't know them like where they are,
• 45:24
  anything about like what's going on with them.
• 45:28
  Well, it's just like how we don't know what Mama Archeron's
• 45:31
  name is, or her mother either, but that's for another day.
• 45:34
  But now? Now, when Elaine emerged from
• 45:37
  the cauldron, she was locked in a dark room, consumed by pure
• 45:41
  terror. Brie Axis feeds on fear.
• 45:44
  Remember? The embodiment of fear, it would
• 45:48
  draw straight to her, curling up inside her mind as a protective
• 45:52
  shield. This would explain how
• 45:54
  completely untrained individual Florida State shadow stepped
• 45:58
  undetected to slit the throat. You remember she, you know of
• 46:02
  the King of Highburn with the truth teller?
• 46:05
  Because remember, she stole Azrael's knife and cut his
• 46:08
  throat. So the monster was leading her
• 46:11
  with its its own thing. Because Reaxis has.
• 46:14
  I don't think she would have any issue because I think Briaxis is
• 46:18
  quite ancient as well. Yeah, Yeah, that makes sense
• 46:22
  because I forgot that she she shadow step to do the final
• 46:27
  blow. I forgot that part, yeah.
• 46:30
  Yeah, yeah. Isn't it?
• 46:33
  Maybe her and Briaxis are just besties.
• 46:36
  And he wants to protect or she wants to protect her.
• 46:39
  Some of them. Elaine left Briaxis live inside
• 46:45
  her, and when she disappears to go tend to the garden, she's
• 46:51
  letting Braxis out to explore, and that's why she gets that
• 46:55
  funny look on her face that Cassian's picking up.
• 46:59
  It's possible. You see, I mean, Elaine, Elaine
• 47:06
  is interesting. Nesta was more like right there
• 47:10
  in your face. You, you seen like she would
• 47:13
  tell you exactly what was wrong. Elaine.
• 47:17
  Elaine. OK, so now let's see here.
• 47:20
  Now we have to look at Elaine's actual choices and her agency
• 47:24
  because this trips up the entire fandom.
• 47:27
  OK? In a court of Frost and Starlet,
• 47:31
  Elaine drops an absolute truth bomb when she explicitly states
• 47:36
  that she doesn't want Lucian. She doesn't want a male at all.
• 47:43
  In a world where mating bonds are treated like absolute, you
• 47:47
  know, breakable divine law, Elaine is quietly staging a
• 47:51
  total revolution. And girls, the Internet has
• 47:55
  connected this to a legendary theory.
• 47:58
  What if Elaine's true path isn't with Azrael or Lucian?
• 48:03
  But what if it's with more? Because.
• 48:08
  She said because she said she doesn't want a male at all.
• 48:11
  OK. What do we think on that theory?
• 48:15
  That would be awesome because if she pisses me off with Grayson
• 48:18
  in the beginning, like how, how lovesick and and naive.
• 48:23
  So that would be awesome if that's the reason why she was
• 48:27
  forcing it so hard. And then she's coming over here
• 48:30
  and finding more of herself, being able to open up and get
• 48:35
  all of that attention off of her, so much so she could be
• 48:38
  able to be like, yeah, I don't want that like I don't want that
• 48:41
  like, And then more is there. So I would so get behind that.
• 48:46
  That would be awesome cuz. Amy cuz if you think about it
• 48:50
  now, a lot of people sleep on the little Christmas novella in
• 48:54
  an ACOTAR. I love it too.
• 48:57
  Amy cuz it's kind of like you're peeling back the curtain and
• 48:59
  you're seeing there. It's not like they're fighting
• 49:02
  the war or anything. It's just, you know, their
• 49:05
  everyday lives and we see in there, but there are all these
• 49:08
  little things that happen in that book that people completely
• 49:13
  dismiss or forget. You know, just like, where did
• 49:17
  Azrael go when he says he's going to Rose Hall, Who's he
• 49:21
  going to visit? Doesn't say anything Reese and
• 49:24
  says to, you know, because he said he was going to Rose Hall
• 49:26
  and Reese and is like, buy her something from me, will you?
• 49:30
  And Azrael was like, Oh yeah, he'll do it and never mentions
• 49:34
  it again. Who's in Rose Hall?
• 49:37
  I think it's Aziro's mother. That's my opinion, but we'll
• 49:40
  see. But it's an interesting thing.
• 49:42
  That's what I'm saying. People sleep on that little
• 49:45
  novella, but there's so many little things that I think
• 49:50
  they're bread crumbs. I know.
• 49:54
  I've read, I've heard that. I was like, what?
• 49:56
  Like I thought it was a part of the series.
• 49:58
  I didn't realize it was the first one I ever encountered
• 50:01
  where it was a novella. And I just finished the series
• 50:03
  and I just thought it was a part of it.
• 50:05
  And then I found out people are like, yeah, I just skipped it.
• 50:07
  I whatever. I was like, but it's a part of
• 50:09
  the story. What do you mean?
• 50:10
  Like, I didn't realize that was a choice.
• 50:12
  Like you just do that. And so there's things in it that
• 50:16
  you definitely need. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 50:18
  Well, it says here, when confronted with reality of her
• 50:21
  mating bond, Elaine explicitly pushes back against the
• 50:25
  expectations of Prythian. Her rejection of the concept of
• 50:29
  belonging to a male shows she values her autonomy over genetic
• 50:35
  programming. So now this is the more parallel
• 50:38
  moral Moore has spent centuries hiding her true sexuality from
• 50:42
  the Night Court to protect herself from the patriarchal
• 50:46
  demands of the faith society. When Elaine states she doesn't
• 50:50
  want a male, it directly mirrors Moore's own orientation.
• 50:55
  A romantic pairing between them would completely shatter the
• 50:58
  traditional force mating bond structure of the series.
• 51:04
  Now this is the other thing. Now it says Moore's baseline
• 51:07
  power is truth. Remember that?
• 51:09
  Still don't understand what that means?
• 51:12
  What is the power truth? Is it that she can force people
• 51:15
  to tell the truth? She can force people that they
• 51:18
  can't speak the truth? Still don't.
• 51:21
  I don't understand what that means.
• 51:23
  But while Elaine's gift is from the Cauldron, is sight, a seer,
• 51:28
  and the embodiment of truth are a perfect unified cosmic
• 51:32
  pairing. Elaine can see the future and
• 51:35
  more can validate the absolute reality of it.
• 51:39
  So I don't know, it makes me think maybe it's a little bit
• 51:43
  more. Maybe, maybe this is what we all
• 51:47
  like we're missing and didn't see it.
• 51:50
  Maybe this is the true Perry, because a lot of people were
• 51:53
  thinking that Moore was going to be with what was Nesta's friend,
• 51:58
  The one that was she's an Illyrian.
• 52:01
  What was her Emory? Was that her?
• 52:03
  Name. Yeah.
• 52:04
  Because a lot of people thought they were going to be together.
• 52:08
  Maybe it's Elaine. I'm that's interesting.
• 52:12
  I'm thinking ready. Elaine has said that she's
• 52:17
  decided she likes females. That's fine.
• 52:20
  No issue. Elaine and more are, yeah, but
• 52:27
  they're keeping it a secret. But Azrael always follows more
• 52:32
  everywhere because everyone thinks it's because he's in love
• 52:36
  with her. But I think it's because he
• 52:40
  doesn't trust her and he thinks that she's being sketchy.
• 52:45
  So maybe now Elaine is being sketchy because she's doing
• 52:51
  dodgy things with more because more is evil.
• 52:54
  And then she's she's also convinced.
• 52:58
  Elaine to be wait, what do you mean more is evil?
• 53:03
  There's a lot of theories that she is.
• 53:06
  Oh, I was like, what do you mean I love more?
• 53:09
  Oh no, I don't. Really.
• 53:13
  I think she's sketchy. I think there's a possibility
• 53:16
  that she could be something darker because when you when at
• 53:21
  the end of the little Christmas novella there, what is it?
• 53:26
  Starlight and Frost and Starlight, she's up at her,
• 53:29
  remember, She goes to her state that nobody really knows about
• 53:33
  except Reese, and she's up there.
• 53:35
  Remember then that Shadow is watching her now, Is that Brie
• 53:38
  Axis? Because Brie Axis is kind of
• 53:40
  like a shadowy moving thing. Because I think she would know
• 53:44
  if it was Azru. Or maybe she just senses his
• 53:48
  shadows, which is possible. But what?
• 53:51
  Something's watching her. She's not.
• 53:54
  And why does she have a hidden place?
• 53:56
  Why doesn't Cassian them know? You know what I mean?
• 53:59
  I don't think Cassian knows. I don't think all.
• 54:01
  Yeah. Supposedly Azrael doesn't know,
• 54:04
  but she has a secret estate, remember?
• 54:06
  She rides her horses and stuff up there.
• 54:09
  There's something there. Maybe Elaine's coming up there
• 54:11
  when she's disappearing and she's going up there with more.
• 54:16
  I like the Kersey's thaw on Azrael.
• 54:19
  I didn't think of it like this. Like maybe he's just keeping an
• 54:22
  eye on her because he deals with shadows, right?
• 54:26
  And he? Doesn't like Elaine either.
• 54:29
  Right, and that's right. And if the shadows, if she's
• 54:32
  dealing with this God of death being in her or, you know,
• 54:37
  harboring him or or just being a port, like a port in between for
• 54:42
  them to be able to see the world or be in the world that his
• 54:46
  shadows know. All right, the shadows whisper
• 54:49
  and are everywhere to him. I'm dying for his story.
• 54:54
  But that's all fitting, right? That she is, you know, in
• 55:00
  cahoots with the God of death, and that Azrael's just keeping a
• 55:07
  tabs on her more than anything else.
• 55:11
  So that's a really cool theory. I didn't think of it like that.
• 55:16
  Well now the the like with Azrael as we know he's a shadow
• 55:20
  singer. Still don't understand 100% what
• 55:22
  exactly that means, but the theory completely flips the Azra
• 55:27
  Lucian ship wore on its head. Azra's shadows might not be
• 55:32
  hovering around a lane because he's her future lover.
• 55:35
  They might be protecting her when he recognizes her as
• 55:39
  someone who like him or more, exists outside the traditional
• 55:44
  mating bond or mating bold. But it says Faylor states that
• 55:49
  if a female rejects the mating bond, it can drive the male
• 55:53
  completely insane. By choosing a female partner
• 55:57
  over her genetically assigned male counterpart, Elaine would
• 56:02
  be forcing the narrative to address what happens when the
• 56:05
  cauldron made bond is completely severed by free will.
• 56:09
  Because Sarah, when she did her interview in March, she said not
• 56:15
  all the bonds are correct. What is she saying to us there?
• 56:19
  What is she trying to tell us? I wouldn't be surprised if
• 56:26
  Lucian lied. If he was LED.
• 56:31
  He lied. And he lied.
• 56:33
  Never. She was never his mate.
• 56:38
  Who do you think? So I wouldn't, but yeah, I guess
• 56:42
  they could lie, right? Yeah.
• 56:43
  Are you? Are you thinking it's Tamlin?
• 56:46
  Do you think it's? Tamlin I also really like when
• 56:49
  the storyline of her going to the summer court, the spring
• 56:53
  court, sorry, her going to the spring court and them being
• 56:57
  buddy buddy. I also like that theory too.
• 57:00
  I think that also fits her personality a little bit and
• 57:03
  like they're, they fit hearing. I don't.
• 57:08
  I have so many theories when it comes to Tamlin.
• 57:12
  Tamlin, I don't know. Sarah was very adamant though,
• 57:16
  that she does not know she's going to give him his redemption
• 57:19
  arc because she said if she would do something with him, she
• 57:24
  has to be very careful how she does it because she has had
• 57:28
  friends that have gone through domestic things in a similar
• 57:32
  fashion. So she said she has to be very
• 57:35
  careful. So I'm not 100.
• 57:36
  That's what makes me think that Tamlin is not, is not freeling.
• 57:42
  But I do have theories that Tamlin has fathered a whole
• 57:46
  bunch of children. I do believe that Gwen is
• 57:50
  Tamlin's daughter the because when you listen to the whole
• 57:55
  story, when she tells the tale, I believe her mother is Lucian's
• 57:59
  daughter. So don't hear me out now I've
• 58:04
  said this theory before. Now when Gwen is talking about
• 58:09
  her grandmother, she said her grandmother seduced a high Bay
• 58:15
  male from the Autumn Court. What is Lucian high Fe male
• 58:20
  court? Unless it's unless it's Heiress,
• 58:22
  but I'm I'm still leaning towards Lucian.
• 58:27
  Now we know. That his his.
• 58:30
  He's not from Autumn Court. That his father.
• 58:34
  His mom is. Ah, OK, OK.
• 58:37
  His mom's from Autumn Court and his dad, of course, is Helian,
• 58:40
  but he still doesn't know that. But so and remember, he was with
• 58:46
  his, his, his girlfriend, he had and she was a lesser Faye.
• 58:49
  Her grandmother was a lesser Faye.
• 58:52
  Jasmina. I think that was her name.
• 58:54
  Was that her name? It's something like that.
• 58:56
  It could, it's something like that.
• 58:58
  OK, so and we know that Baron had her on alive in front of
• 59:04
  him, in front of Lucian, but that doesn't mean when they were
• 59:09
  apart that she couldn't have had a child.
• 59:12
  We know that Lucian has been to Sangrava because when he goes to
• 59:17
  the House of Wind, and that's an echo, is it Akawar?
• 59:20
  He goes there into the library and he makes mention that the
• 59:24
  dyes in the rugs are from Sangrava.
• 59:27
  I don't know any reason why Sarah would mention that.
• 59:32
  You know, that's just a, a little, I think a little thing
• 59:37
  in there. So, so say this daughter was
• 59:41
  there because the mother was killed.
• 59:43
  The daughter was raised in Sangrava.
• 59:46
  Now we know then Gwen goes through the whole whole spiel.
• 59:51
  She said her mom went to the great right or she was chosen
• 59:55
  for it, and her mom was chosen at the great right.
• 59:59
  As we know the person that chooses them and the person
• 1:00:02
  that's running around because he has to go have sex with
• 1:00:04
  everybody to make the crops grow.
• 1:00:06
  Tamlin So and then her and her twin sister were the result of
• 1:00:12
  the great right. They weren't just anybody else.
• 1:00:14
  The only person that's doing that at the great right is
• 1:00:18
  Tamlin. So I think Tamlin's her father.
• 1:00:21
  That's one of his children. His second child, I believe, is
• 1:00:26
  over in Crescent City. I said it, but you haven't read
• 1:00:33
  all of it. No, no.
• 1:00:35
  But I know there's a crossover because I've been talking about
• 1:00:37
  it on TikTok and Instagram and stuff and everybody has already
• 1:00:41
  told me they've already been through.
• 1:00:43
  And I'm like, that's the bad thing with posting things that
• 1:00:46
  people tell you spoilers. So I already know that there's
• 1:00:49
  the crossover. I know that Bryce goes over
• 1:00:51
  there and or they come over there, I don't know.
• 1:00:54
  But I don't know the whole full story.
• 1:00:56
  I just know that they. Well, it's not Bryce.
• 1:01:00
  Bryce. Bryce is not his child.
• 1:01:02
  I do believe the autumn king of over there in Midgard, He's
• 1:01:07
  Bryce's father, not there. I have no qualms about that.
• 1:01:11
  But another individual that is my favorite character over
• 1:01:16
  there, Mr. Room Dannon, I believe, is very possible.
• 1:01:20
  I believe that he could be Tamlin's son.
• 1:01:24
  Hear me out. I believe now if you read the
• 1:01:27
  bonus chapters, if you go into the bonus chapters and that were
• 1:01:33
  Rune Dannon goes and talks to his mother.
• 1:01:35
  Have you read that the bonus chapters when he goes and talks
• 1:01:38
  to her. Well, I believe that she is
• 1:01:44
  Reese and sister. Now, again, unless you see a
• 1:01:49
  body, that's when you know for sure that somebody is dead.
• 1:01:53
  Just like Papa Archeron. We saw him die on paper.
• 1:01:58
  We saw the King of Hyburn die on paper.
• 1:02:00
  We know they are not here. But supposedly, remember, they
• 1:02:05
  said that they, their heads were removed.
• 1:02:07
  Their wings were taken and sent down the river.
• 1:02:10
  The wings were at Tamlin's house.
• 1:02:11
  Remember, they said his dad put them up on his wall.
• 1:02:16
  They were searched. Mom and sister.
• 1:02:18
  Mom and sister Farrah searched all over the the palace there
• 1:02:23
  whatever never found them. Then supposedly Tamlin said he
• 1:02:27
  burned them supposedly. So this is my theory now again.
• 1:02:34
  Now remember in the spring court there is a pool of moonlight
• 1:02:38
  that makes no sense. Why would there be a a night
• 1:02:42
  court thing in spring court? OK, follow my follow my mind.
• 1:02:48
  I think that Reese's because we never really had a true
• 1:02:52
  definitive age of how old Reese's sisters.
• 1:02:55
  We just know she's younger than him, but that doesn't mean she
• 1:02:59
  was a little girl or anything like that.
• 1:03:01
  So I put her as a a young woman. OK, So what if her and Tamlyn
• 1:03:07
  were in love, one of her gifts? Because if she's as powerful as
• 1:03:12
  Reese, you know they're coming from the same genetics.
• 1:03:16
  Why couldn't she create a pool of moonlight as a gift of love
• 1:03:20
  to Tamlin? Oh, there you go.
• 1:03:24
  Yeah, remember, all over Spring Court, there's misty areas is
• 1:03:29
  let's say Tamlin knew about the portals and he knew his dad was
• 1:03:34
  going to do these awful things. What if he pushed her through
• 1:03:38
  one of the portals and she ended up in Midgard?
• 1:03:41
  And she almost has like a like a amnesia kind of thing because
• 1:03:44
  even when Rune's talking to her, it's like she doesn't remember
• 1:03:48
  things 100%. So say she was Reese's sister
• 1:03:54
  because why does Roone look so much like Reese?
• 1:03:58
  I mean, when Bryce, because this is the part when Bryce goes and
• 1:04:03
  she says, take me to the Prince of Hell and she ends up at the
• 1:04:06
  river house and she sees Reese, she thinks he's Roone.
• 1:04:14
  You see what I'm saying? But do you see what I'm saying?
• 1:04:18
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:20
  I just. Assume Reece and Brune were
• 1:04:23
  going to be. Brothers, I think they're
• 1:04:27
  related direct. Well, if that's if that's mostly
• 1:04:32
  if she was pregnant when she got pushed through the portal, What
• 1:04:36
  if that's Tamlin's son? Of course she was going to look,
• 1:04:40
  you know, because his mother looks just like Reece when you
• 1:04:43
  hear her description everything so and we know he has shadows.
• 1:04:48
  I mean the King Autumn King over in Midgard.
• 1:04:52
  He does fire. He has red hair.
• 1:04:55
  I mean nothing. There's something there.
• 1:04:59
  Sarah did something but watch it probably won't even be at but
• 1:05:02
  I'm going to go with that theory.
• 1:05:03
  So I think Tamlin has fathered Roon and I think he's fathered
• 1:05:08
  when then I also had the also the other theory that he
• 1:05:15
  fathered Nesta. That's another theory too,
• 1:05:18
  because he's keeps saying to like Pharaoh when she first goes
• 1:05:21
  there and he's like, why didn't your mother tell you about us?
• 1:05:24
  Why is he specifically talking about her mother?
• 1:05:28
  Why is he asking this question? And it was like he had a
• 1:05:31
  relationship or he knew Pharaoh's mother in the way he
• 1:05:35
  says it. What if he had a on a love
• 1:05:38
  affair with Mama Archeron, which I don't think, by the way, is
• 1:05:42
  human. I think she is a witch.
• 1:05:45
  I don't. From Throne of Glass.
• 1:05:47
  I think that's a bit too close quoted for Sarah J Maas to
• 1:05:50
  write. I don't think she's quiet about.
• 1:05:53
  I don't think she would write. Mother and daughter going at it
• 1:05:59
  with the same gentleman? Probably not.
• 1:06:05
  I get it. I don't know but what I mean.
• 1:06:08
  But Sarah, let's say she puts Elaine with Tamlin.
• 1:06:13
  That'd be two sisters with the same guy.
• 1:06:15
  This is true. What about so we're?
• 1:06:19
  At because we're talking a lot about shadows and I'm just
• 1:06:24
  putting this connection with like this moon pool and the
• 1:06:29
  shadows we were referring to of all of this that we just said
• 1:06:33
  that I'm like fury that I'm again didn't finish, but there's
• 1:06:38
  so much mystery behind her. Oh, I have.
• 1:06:42
  Oh, I have a theory with the Fury.
• 1:06:46
  This is, remember, this would have been an ACA war.
• 1:06:49
  Everybody. Do you remember when they go and
• 1:06:53
  they meet care at the Court of Nightmares?
• 1:06:56
  Do you remember this when they had to go meet him and they have
• 1:07:01
  to go meet and Kira is talking about sorry he was late to their
• 1:07:04
  meeting because he was having a problem with a man named Lord
• 1:07:09
  Thanos or Thanatos or whatever the name was and he was having a
• 1:07:14
  problem with his daughter and we knew she is an assassin.
• 1:07:19
  That is what you know now if you go into mythology, the people
• 1:07:24
  that are with Thanos in or Thanatos, whatever it is in
• 1:07:29
  mythology, are Furies. So I think that Fury is a world
• 1:07:34
  Walker and I think she goes between the Court of Nightmares
• 1:07:39
  and Midgard. What?
• 1:07:42
  Yes, that's crazy. But I have other theories though
• 1:07:46
  when we will be doing an episode, I have theories of what
• 1:07:50
  the Court of Nightmares is too. But again, we're on Elaine, so
• 1:07:55
  Elaine's and say we're because he's not.
• 1:07:57
  Now that's our our whole big thing with Elaine.
• 1:07:59
  Now let's pivot across the sea to the continent because the
• 1:08:04
  countdown to October's release a book 6 has the Internet digging
• 1:08:08
  into ancient fire magic from tiny clumsy pets in the House of
• 1:08:12
  win to the curse Firebird Queen, a true dragon solar magic might
• 1:08:17
  be hiding right under the night quartz nose.
• 1:08:21
  Now there's a dormant dragon theory.
• 1:08:25
  Now remember when we read Crescent City, there's a dragon.
• 1:08:30
  You've gotten to that part, yes. Yeah.
• 1:08:32
  OK, just so you know who's. Passed it, yeah.
• 1:08:34
  OK, all right. Now, in a court of silver
• 1:08:37
  flames, Helium brings a flock of Pegasus to the Night Court.
• 1:08:42
  Do you remember this? And Nesta falls in love with the
• 1:08:45
  simple or specific miniature Pegasus that was unusually clum,
• 1:08:50
  chubby and clumsy. Do you remember that when they
• 1:08:53
  were having their little party? Now Sarah J Mass mentions
• 1:08:57
  multiple times that the Pegasus are endangered and face or a
• 1:09:01
  fading species in Perithean and nobody knows why they stopped
• 1:09:05
  breeding. Now in Crescent City, a true
• 1:09:10
  shape shifting Dragons exists. Fans noted that a highly
• 1:09:14
  specific detail in Silver Flames, Whenever this miniature
• 1:09:18
  Pegasus breathes near Nesta, its breath is described as
• 1:09:23
  unnaturally hot, heavy, and holding a distinctly metallic
• 1:09:28
  smoke like scent. So do we think that this little
• 1:09:34
  miniature Pegasus that I know the House of Wind created it for
• 1:09:38
  Nesta, but could it possibly be a dragon?
• 1:09:47
  What do you think? Like they just don't know what a
• 1:09:48
  dragon is, right? So that's what.
• 1:09:51
  I don't think there's any Dragons in Prythian.
• 1:09:54
  Do you remember them talking about anything like that?
• 1:09:57
  But there's a lot of stuff in the prison we don't know about
• 1:09:59
  yet. But what do we think?
• 1:10:04
  I think they've gone too far with their theory.
• 1:10:08
  All right. That's me.
• 1:10:08
  This is the well it says the Pegasus are actual now.
• 1:10:11
  This is what they're saying, that the Pegasus are actually
• 1:10:15
  dormant, magically suppressed Dragons.
• 1:10:18
  Wendy Esteri, you know the the Daglin ruled Prithian.
• 1:10:23
  They used advanced genetic engineering to neutralize apex
• 1:10:28
  predators looking or locking their fear or fire breathing
• 1:10:32
  magic into harmless forms of a winged horse.
• 1:10:35
  Nesta's raw cauldron made power might have accidentally unlocked
• 1:10:40
  the true genetic heritage. Is it possible?
• 1:10:45
  But how could Nesta have unlocked it?
• 1:10:47
  Because the Pegasus was made from the house, which is weird
• 1:10:51
  and the questions, right? But the house, the house never
• 1:10:56
  did any of this stuff until Nesta was there because they
• 1:11:00
  asked Reese, has the house ever did this before?
• 1:11:03
  And he says, no, it's only been doing this since Nesta's been
• 1:11:07
  there. Now of course, she did give that
• 1:11:09
  piece back to the Cauldron, but she's still, that is still part
• 1:11:15
  of her, just the extra person out there.
• 1:11:17
  I mean is it possible that she did it and she unlocks
• 1:11:21
  something? Before the unlocking, I guess it
• 1:11:25
  could make sense that backwind Dragons were existing that they
• 1:11:30
  needed to what? Give them a potion and and make
• 1:11:34
  them little innocent because there's no other pegasuses,
• 1:11:40
  right? There Helion has them.
• 1:11:42
  Helian has actual Pegasus horses.
• 1:11:45
  Yeah, and I but I mean the description of the breath and
• 1:11:48
  all of this stuff and Nesta with the cauldron, I mean, yeah, like
• 1:11:54
  I could see it. Maybe it'd be super crazy twist
• 1:11:57
  to like that's very. Well, I mean, I know the Daglin
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  did a lot of interesting things before they were thrown out of
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  Prithian 15,000 years ago, so I just done it.
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  I just think that Sarah J Maas wanted her Pegasus to be
• 1:12:15
  different from everyone else's Pegasus, and that's why they've
• 1:12:17
  got hot breath. I think everyone's thinking
• 1:12:22
  about it too much. Yeah, but also you've got the
• 1:12:26
  shapeshifter Lysandra, right from Throne of Glass.
• 1:12:31
  You've also got lots of different monsters there, and
• 1:12:35
  you've got Wave Ram, not really Dragons, but you've got wavering
• 1:12:39
  and stuff. So we know that in Crescent City
• 1:12:42
  they exist, Throne of Glass they exist.
• 1:12:44
  And that there's a lot of corruption in Acatar and history
• 1:12:49
  there that when it comes to twisted beings trying to take
• 1:12:55
  over power and what they did to get that power.
• 1:12:58
  So if there was Dragons and they were something that they needed
• 1:13:02
  to conquer and there was some sort of witchy or God step in to
• 1:13:10
  downsize them into little Pegasus or whatever, you know,
• 1:13:14
  from a big giant dragon. That's just an interesting.
• 1:13:17
  It's like Pegasus is, is that how you say Pegasus?
• 1:13:20
  Like, am I saying that right? It sounds weird, but yeah, maybe
• 1:13:25
  they didn't exist. It's just that they are the the
• 1:13:30
  innocent version of a dragon, right?
• 1:13:32
  Like what that potion has created, and that's what we know
• 1:13:36
  it as is a Pegasus. But to them it's just a horse
• 1:13:39
  with wings. Like to make it this cutesy
• 1:13:44
  little thing. Well, you have to remember one,
• 1:13:46
  we don't know what's all inside the prison.
• 1:13:49
  We do not know what everything that's in there.
• 1:13:52
  And and then in Crescent City, as you're going through book
• 1:13:56
  three, remember they're talking about the Pegasus as you're
• 1:14:00
  reading the series. They talk about at one time
• 1:14:03
  there were Pegasus and then they will come back in Crescent City.
• 1:14:10
  So and they were just what was it under?
• 1:14:13
  They were under the ground. Wasn't that what it was, Kirsty?
• 1:14:19
  So. So I mean, they were hiding that
• 1:14:21
  whole time in essence or whatever.
• 1:14:24
  So I mean, is it possible that they are hiding in Prytheum?
• 1:14:28
  Besides the small amount of them that are with Helion again, why
• 1:14:32
  are they all hanging out with Helion?
• 1:14:33
  Why is he the only one that has them?
• 1:14:36
  There's some I don't know. Maybe he's hiding heaps of them
• 1:14:40
  and we just don't know about it. I mean, it is possible.
• 1:14:44
  I think there's. I think Helion's hiding a lot of
• 1:14:46
  secrets too, in my opinion. I think Helion's going to die,
• 1:14:51
  and then I think Lucian's going to find out, and then I think
• 1:14:53
  Lucian's going to become. The ruler of the is he the date?
• 1:14:58
  Summer, right? Summer, I think.
• 1:15:02
  Nope, Summer is that is. Oh God.
• 1:15:08
  Oh, because it's the warm place. What's his name?
• 1:15:12
  Tarquin. Tarquin is summer.
• 1:15:15
  Tarquin. Tarquin is summer, then Heli, I
• 1:15:18
  think Helian's day. He's day.
• 1:15:23
  And then Thiessen is not dusk. He's he's that other one that's
• 1:15:30
  like day. No, I can't remember what is
• 1:15:35
  dawn? He's dawn court.
• 1:15:36
  That's what it is. And then Calius or something
• 1:15:41
  like that. It begins with AK.
• 1:15:42
  He's the Winter Court, because you got to remember Tarquin
• 1:15:48
  Decent and whatever his name is, the one begins with AK.
• 1:15:51
  That's Winter. They all became high Lords under
• 1:15:55
  the mountain because their dad's Amarantha killed them and they
• 1:15:59
  all became it. Yeah.
• 1:16:02
  OK, so there's something there. We know that.
• 1:16:07
  We know that all those things, they can be shrunk down because
• 1:16:10
  remember in Crescent City, all the little sprites and the
• 1:16:15
  dragon, they were all, they were all in the the rings in that
• 1:16:20
  astronomer rings. Balls or something, right?
• 1:16:22
  Yeah, that he put. On there they were in his ring
• 1:16:24
  so we know they can shrink them down so.
• 1:16:28
  So if they can change form and if they can, you know, because
• 1:16:32
  also the dragon was a fire, was literally straight fireball
• 1:16:35
  like, you know, So yeah, it's interesting.
• 1:16:40
  So we'll see, and we'll see there's something there because
• 1:16:43
  Sarah talks about it. And in all the different.
• 1:16:46
  I don't know, we'll have to wait and see.
• 1:16:49
  Probably be all wrong. Who cares?
• 1:16:50
  But these are fun. OK, now this.
• 1:16:53
  Now, then this one. Here.
• 1:16:54
  Now Vasa and the House of Westfall.
• 1:16:57
  Now Queen Vasa. You know, the Firebird Queen is
• 1:17:01
  the mortal queen from the continent cursed by Kersey or
• 1:17:03
  Koshi into being a firebird. The Internet has connected her
• 1:17:07
  curse straight to the royal lineages in Throne of Glass in
• 1:17:12
  that series. The royal family of the Southern
• 1:17:15
  Continent, The House of Westfall Via.
• 1:17:18
  Is it? Is it Kale?
• 1:17:19
  Is that how we pronounce his name?
• 1:17:21
  Yeah. In Oh Lord, how do you pronounce
• 1:17:25
  this one? Is it?
• 1:17:26
  It's YRENE. How would we pronounce that?
• 1:17:30
  Irene. Irene it's oh OK Towers has
• 1:17:34
  ancient ties to a legendary solar and life giving healing
• 1:17:38
  magic. So is it possible that they are
• 1:17:41
  related? What is your thoughts?
• 1:17:44
  What's fault? Oh Vasa, that mean Vasa the
• 1:17:48
  firebird is related to them. What do you?
• 1:17:52
  I don't know how that would relate to the fire per SE, but I
• 1:17:57
  could imagine. What's this, that they're
• 1:18:01
  legendary solar life giving healing magic?
• 1:18:05
  Is their magic Something was solar?
• 1:18:08
  No, no. Then I don't know what that
• 1:18:10
  means then. I mean, there is, there is a big
• 1:18:16
  emphasis around fire and fire heart in Throne of Glass, but
• 1:18:23
  that's a different acting. Yeah, but that's.
• 1:18:26
  With Aylan, so maybe there's something that that maybe she's
• 1:18:31
  related to Aylan. You know what, something that I
• 1:18:36
  also want to mention about Irene is something I still am very
• 1:18:43
  curious about and maybe Kirstie can help me here.
• 1:18:47
  But do you remember when she would go inside The Cave where
• 1:18:53
  all the healers went to relax, where they had the pools and
• 1:18:56
  they had the bells that were up on the top and there was one
• 1:19:01
  that was pulling her specifically.
• 1:19:05
  Yeah. And I think it was like her, her
• 1:19:07
  great grandma or, or the first healer.
• 1:19:11
  It was a big significant person. Her bell was drawing her to her
• 1:19:16
  when nobody's drawn to any bells.
• 1:19:18
  But she was like drawn to this, right.
• 1:19:20
  And she's she's definitely, in my opinion, hat from something
• 1:19:26
  else because she's not just a straight regular healer,
• 1:19:29
  obviously from the Kingdom of Ash.
• 1:19:31
  Like, we know that she's very something else.
• 1:19:36
  Yeah. And so there's got to be a
• 1:19:41
  connection with her somewhere. When it comes to the other
• 1:19:46
  books. I don't know exactly how cuz I'm
• 1:19:48
  not good at making theories, but I just thought it was weird that
• 1:19:51
  it wasn't so explicitly broken down about what is this about
• 1:19:55
  her? Unless I missed it.
• 1:19:58
  So, Kirstie, if you know. But I feel like there's
• 1:20:03
  something maybe connection to the to the witches in a Qatar.
• 1:20:10
  All I can think of is when we first meet Irene, we meet her a
• 1:20:18
  long time before her part of the story occurs and maybe it's got
• 1:20:25
  something to do with where we meet her originally or like how
• 1:20:31
  she's gotten there because she's not a healer when we meet her,
• 1:20:35
  she's just a normal person. So maybe maybe her family or her
• 1:20:42
  roots or where she's come from. I know it's obviously she's
• 1:20:46
  still tied to the healers, but she's not with the healers when
• 1:20:51
  we meet her. So maybe where she originates
• 1:20:53
  from in the original story in the prequel is connected to
• 1:21:00
  Alcatel. Maybe something there's got to
• 1:21:04
  be something with the goddesses tied in there and and her being
• 1:21:09
  drawn to her bell and getting this like power just like Alan
• 1:21:13
  did in in Gosh, I'm so bad at names.
• 1:21:21
  She was visited by the past ghost right from the other
• 1:21:25
  queen. And this is something where they
• 1:21:28
  were like connected. And she, Irene is also
• 1:21:33
  experiencing the same kind of idea of a ghost essentially is
• 1:21:38
  pulling her towards something. And it's like there's got to be
• 1:21:41
  some sort of connection between them and the the chess pieces
• 1:21:46
  that those dead people are trying to put into place that
• 1:21:52
  they were pulled to her and like maybe gave her something the way
• 1:21:55
  that Aylan was also given this these not necessarily powers,
• 1:22:02
  but they gave her a path, they give her direction.
• 1:22:04
  They gave her tools needed to, you know, hopefully conquer or
• 1:22:11
  be the sacrifice, you know what I mean?
• 1:22:13
  Like they did the chess pieces for her and Irene was also kind
• 1:22:18
  of thrown into that as well as a chess piece from these other
• 1:22:22
  beings, you know, trying to do so in connection with the
• 1:22:25
  Firebird. The idea with her and Alan,
• 1:22:29
  that's pretty cool because there's also a lot of questions
• 1:22:33
  with that which as well of what's going on over there.
• 1:22:36
  And Aylan is always talked about fire heart and you know, I see
• 1:22:41
  that that's. It's another name to her.
• 1:22:43
  Do you know what that reminds me of?
• 1:22:45
  Rebecca. When?
• 1:22:46
  What's that? In the third Crescent City book
• 1:22:51
  where Bryce has her, You know she goes and speaks to someone
• 1:22:59
  and has that like ghost towards the end of the book, has that
• 1:23:04
  ghostly connection. OK, do.
• 1:23:08
  You know what I'm talking. You can say whatever you need to
• 1:23:11
  say like I are you. Talking through the whole
• 1:23:13
  through the portal thing. Are you talking when she when
• 1:23:15
  she talks to Danica? Yes.
• 1:23:21
  It gives me the same vibe as when Allen speaks to the ghost
• 1:23:28
  that she speaks to in Throne of Glass.
• 1:23:31
  Well, Ness now this is another theory with it now because Vasa
• 1:23:36
  OK. Yes, yeah, because.
• 1:23:39
  Kosh. I think Koshi's going to be a
• 1:23:41
  very big part in this next book or over the next three books
• 1:23:46
  because you know, like Highburn was big in the first three
• 1:23:49
  books. I think it's very possible that
• 1:23:51
  Koshi's going to be big. Koshi explicitly targets women
• 1:23:56
  who are a have secret dormant carriers of lost Cross universe
• 1:24:01
  magical bloodlines. Because if that's what Bassa is.
• 1:24:05
  Bassa's firebird curse isn't just a punishment, it's a
• 1:24:08
  genetic cage designed to prevent her from unlocking the solar
• 1:24:13
  light of All right, What is the world from Throne of Glass?
• 1:24:17
  How do we pronounce that? Irelia.
• 1:24:19
  Irelia. OK, there we go.
• 1:24:21
  See, I haven't read it. OK.
• 1:24:24
  Which is the ultimate kryptonite to his dark shadow binding lake
• 1:24:28
  sorcery. Is it possible?
• 1:24:33
  What do you think? Koshy's up to something.
• 1:24:37
  There's something I know his brother says.
• 1:24:39
  I know they put him there and they've trapped him at the lake,
• 1:24:42
  but Koshy's able to do a whole lot of shit from this lake.
• 1:24:48
  You know what I'm saying? Also Papa Archeron, I know he
• 1:24:53
  was the Prince of merchants. How did he go over there and
• 1:24:56
  make a deal with Cauchy the death God to get Vasa to come
• 1:25:01
  over and help them defeat Hiburn?
• 1:25:04
  Who is Papa Archeron? Because he then that's the other
• 1:25:06
  theory that plays in. Is it possible that Cauchy is
• 1:25:11
  Nasta's father? What if Mama Archeron had her
• 1:25:16
  child with Cauchy? Because this is another theory
• 1:25:19
  that's on the Internet that he is her father and then Papa
• 1:25:23
  Archeron. This is why Nesta and Papa
• 1:25:25
  Archeron never really got along because she really wasn't his
• 1:25:28
  child and he raised her to be his own.
• 1:25:32
  Because how did he go and be like, we have to save?
• 1:25:36
  Like what if Papa Archeron went and said like, we have to help
• 1:25:38
  save our daughter. We have to help save her, which
• 1:25:41
  is Nesta. And he's like, OK, we're going
• 1:25:45
  to save her. And he lets because what pool
• 1:25:47
  does Papa Archeron have that he was able to get ships.
• 1:25:51
  He was able to to to talk to Koshi and get her to come with
• 1:25:55
  him. That's weird, don't we?
• 1:25:59
  All agree to that though. But the story kind of fits where
• 1:26:03
  he in the past was this high merchant person and he was, you
• 1:26:07
  know, successful in all of this stuff and then lost everything
• 1:26:12
  and so much hate on the family where they had to go into hiding
• 1:26:16
  essentially and he just became depressed.
• 1:26:18
  It's like a football star who breaks his leg now is worthless
• 1:26:22
  and feels like he really is worthless.
• 1:26:25
  But you really think just just the Prince of Merchants could
• 1:26:28
  just go talk to the deaf God and make that deal though?
• 1:26:31
  I feel like if he was greedy enough, if he was greedy enough
• 1:26:35
  and he was obviously very successful.
• 1:26:38
  I look, I'm speaking from a point of view where I thank God,
• 1:26:41
  have like a pretty successful husband who's got multiple
• 1:26:44
  businesses and very, very, I know what money does when it
• 1:26:48
  comes to men and, and their their drive when it comes to
• 1:26:53
  money. So seeing it first hand and
• 1:26:55
  hearing the background of this, it one 100% makes sense to me
• 1:26:59
  that when you get to such a high place, it's like, is there no
• 1:27:03
  red line that you would cross? Like he would do whatever he
• 1:27:07
  needed to do to stay at the top and for it for him to go seek
• 1:27:12
  out a God and be able to do you know anything, I see it as
• 1:27:16
  totally possible. And that's probably why Nessa is
• 1:27:18
  like, screw you for what you the choices that you made landed us
• 1:27:24
  here because of your greed, because of your selfishness.
• 1:27:27
  And you know, now you're going to choose to sit in a chair and
• 1:27:30
  just leave us. You know what I mean?
• 1:27:33
  Like so for me the actual story she wrote kind of makes fits
• 1:27:37
  with what I think but. I think there's something more
• 1:27:42
  that we just don't know yet. I just, I just think Papa Archer
• 1:27:46
  on. It's just there's he had some
• 1:27:48
  form of leverage with Koshi again.
• 1:27:51
  Koshi's a death God. There's something more there.
• 1:27:54
  OK, now that is that story. Now I want to go back.
• 1:27:57
  Well, actually before for Koshi, just to tell you, I really think
• 1:28:01
  you are you are right with Koshi being the villain in this coming
• 1:28:06
  up thing like that. There's so many questions with
• 1:28:08
  him and he is so vastly evil that like I agree with you.
• 1:28:14
  That's. Oh yeah.
• 1:28:15
  The direction and he's been trapping women and making them
• 1:28:18
  into Swans on his lake. Yeah.
• 1:28:21
  Oh, she's bad person. All right, so now since we were
• 1:28:24
  talking about this a little bit earlier, let's talk about the
• 1:28:28
  House of win because this this is the part where we're remember
• 1:28:33
  I was saying with Brie axis. Now remember, Brie Axis lives in
• 1:28:38
  the library at the bottom. There is 7 levels to the
• 1:28:42
  library. The library is built beneath.
• 1:28:44
  The House of Wind is explicitly structured into 7 distinct
• 1:28:48
  levels, plunging straight down into the earth.
• 1:28:52
  The further down the character goes, the darker, the colder and
• 1:28:56
  the more hostile the ambient magic becomes.
• 1:29:00
  Now in Crescent City, the link between the two.
• 1:29:03
  In Crescent City, the Realm of Hell is rigidly divided into 7
• 1:29:08
  distinct levels, each governed by one of the seven High
• 1:29:12
  Princess of Hell, Adius Apollonian.
• 1:29:16
  Whatever or Apollon. How do you pronounce it?
• 1:29:19
  Is it Apollonian? Apollonian.
• 1:29:22
  Well I don't, again, I pronounce nothing correct.
• 1:29:26
  And Thanos. The library is structured
• 1:29:31
  mirrors, it's locked dimensional containment ward built directly
• 1:29:35
  on top of the Cross Universe rift connecting periphian
• 1:29:40
  straight to hell. This is the theory.
• 1:29:42
  So if the cross series tracker mechanics, this is what this is
• 1:29:46
  how they think it is. This dimensional proximity
• 1:29:50
  explains why certain characters share identical tracking
• 1:29:53
  abilities, like in the House of What is it?
• 1:29:57
  House of Flame and Shadow, the one that you're reading right
• 1:30:01
  now. Regalius reveals that Fender
• 1:30:04
  Wolf shifters possess a highly specific Bloodhound tracking
• 1:30:08
  scent. Magic inherited from True Fey of
• 1:30:12
  Orillia. Ancient powerful Fey lines
• 1:30:15
  locked in onto a specific soul scent and can track it across
• 1:30:20
  dimensional barriers. The smell of magic beings from
• 1:30:24
  hell. Vogue word hounds, an ancient
• 1:30:29
  siphon fae, operate on a frequency where magic is
• 1:30:33
  smelled, not just seen. When Prince Dantos encounters
• 1:30:38
  Bryce, see if you remember this, he notes her Starlight smells
• 1:30:43
  fresher. Do you remember he said that to
• 1:30:45
  her because she had just returned from Perithean, where
• 1:30:49
  the ambient magic hasn't been synthetically drained by the
• 1:30:54
  Esteri power grid. Elaine's Seer tracking, Danica's
• 1:30:58
  scent tracking, and Lydia's instincts are all running on
• 1:31:03
  this exact same multiverse ecosystem.
• 1:31:06
  What do we think? So all three of them so.
• 1:31:12
  So do we think that we're, even though right now we know that
• 1:31:17
  there's crossover between Crescent City and Prythian and
• 1:31:21
  Acatar, do we think in this upcoming three books, do we
• 1:31:26
  think it's going to crossover into throwing glass territory?
• 1:31:29
  I hope so. Me too.
• 1:31:33
  That would be so cool because I have this Throne of Glass man to
• 1:31:38
  be back in. Throne of Glass, yes, that would
• 1:31:41
  be amazing. I think we're going a little of
• 1:31:47
  topic. Again, I apologize.
• 1:31:48
  I think Lydia, is that her name? What Lydia is her name Lydia?
• 1:31:57
  Yes. The one name Crescent City, yes.
• 1:31:59
  I think her and Elena are related.
• 1:32:07
  OK, Lydia the dancer? No.
• 1:32:09
  Who's Lydia in Crescent City? Lydia is She's the one that
• 1:32:15
  shows herself as fire to Rue Dannon.
• 1:32:21
  Oh, OK, so I haven't gotten there yet.
• 1:32:23
  OK, because I was thinking the girl with the limp in Crescent
• 1:32:26
  City. The OR in a throne of glass with
• 1:32:30
  the ankle. The witch lead.
• 1:32:32
  No. Yeah, Elite.
• 1:32:34
  Sorry, so I was missing that. OK, so these are all have this
• 1:32:38
  ability to see a hat for you. Lydia, the way she's described,
• 1:32:46
  is very much like Elaine Eilan, so I think.
• 1:32:54
  There's something. Crossover, I think Aylan is
• 1:32:57
  going to world walk and see Lydia and they're going to be
• 1:33:01
  like what the fuck? We're the same person.
• 1:33:06
  That we found goal. You think they're the exact same
• 1:33:09
  person, or do you think that they are related?
• 1:33:16
  If she if she thinks Aylan and Lydia are related or sisters of
• 1:33:21
  the same person, sisters. Yeah, I can, assistants.
• 1:33:29
  Well, it is possible because when you get into Lydia, we
• 1:33:33
  don't really know a whole lot about what I mean.
• 1:33:35
  We know who Lydia's mother is, but then when she was three
• 1:33:38
  years old, she was given to her father.
• 1:33:41
  So I mean, there are a lot of unknowns that she herself
• 1:33:45
  doesn't know. And I think it also plays into
• 1:33:49
  what she named her, her children, because they said that
• 1:33:54
  the names that she picked, she said those were family names.
• 1:33:58
  And I guess that ties back to Throne of Glass or something I
• 1:34:03
  was reading. What's their names I.
• 1:34:06
  Can't remember. I can't remember either.
• 1:34:09
  I need to finish. You're going to get to it.
• 1:34:11
  You're going to, you're going to get to it and you'll see what
• 1:34:13
  we're talking about. But her, her boys, so I don't
• 1:34:19
  know. It gets me so excited.
• 1:34:23
  Crescent City, I've had a really hard time getting through like
• 1:34:25
  it's just, it's it's rough and a Qatari love Throne of Glass is
• 1:34:31
  everything. And so if there's like a throne
• 1:34:34
  of glass thing that's going to motivate me so much to get
• 1:34:38
  through the book because that would be cool and I'll
• 1:34:40
  definitely keep an eye out for that.
• 1:34:43
  But the. How far are you in book 3?
• 1:34:48
  Or have you not started it yet? I haven't started.
• 1:34:50
  I'm still in two. I've got maybe a fourth left.
• 1:34:54
  OK, Oh, book 3 answers so many questions, but yet it makes so
• 1:35:02
  many more questions. It answers questions, but it
• 1:35:06
  creates questions as well. So I'm super excited for you to
• 1:35:10
  get to it. But I mean, there's so much.
• 1:35:13
  And when do we think Sarah's going to announce book six
• 1:35:17
  title? Who knows?
• 1:35:21
  Whenever she wants. We're not very far out.
• 1:35:26
  No. Yeah, I want to see September.
• 1:35:29
  You think? Like.
• 1:35:31
  Right before. Rebecca Yaris's book comes out
• 1:35:34
  in two months and that doesn't have a title yet either.
• 1:35:37
  But you saw she Everybody's talking about her.
• 1:35:39
  Oh, she changed her. So black and white.
• 1:35:42
  So maybe the reveals coming? Soon, maybe soon, vex her.
• 1:35:49
  One of her son's names is Brennan.
• 1:35:52
  Yes. Brennan.
• 1:35:53
  And Brennan is the founder of Terracin.
• 1:35:58
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
• 1:36:00
  It was related. I love.
• 1:36:01
  The king right before Yeah, with the father who's mad at the
• 1:36:07
  daughter who tried to be. Yes.
• 1:36:09
  See. OK.
• 1:36:12
  That's so cool. You guys right now like.
• 1:36:17
  Well, now let me ask you this now, because we know that Bassa
• 1:36:21
  is a firebird, is she possibly related to the Thunderbirds that
• 1:36:27
  are from Midgard? Is it the same thing or are they
• 1:36:31
  just similar? Because isn't the Thunderbirds,
• 1:36:36
  aren't they fire, or are they something, or do I can't
• 1:36:40
  remember what they create? You've read a Crescent City
• 1:36:43
  here, Reese. I know I just finished mine in
• 1:36:46
  February, but it's been a lot of months in my brain.
• 1:36:49
  When the Thunderbirds do they are they fire?
• 1:36:51
  Aren't they fire? I can't recall, has it been in
• 1:36:56
  book 1? Wasn't it when they spoke about
• 1:36:58
  it? They speak about it, but I don't
• 1:36:59
  know. There's a character.
• 1:37:01
  There I can't remember because so I'm wondering is there the
• 1:37:07
  connection because they got rid of all the Thunderbirds?
• 1:37:10
  But I have the ability to absorb, generate and command
• 1:37:13
  pure electrical and energy fields.
• 1:37:17
  So I mean, electricity is like fire.
• 1:37:22
  What other powers do Firebirds have like Phoenix's?
• 1:37:26
  Like, is it just straight power? I'm sorry, fire, or do we know
• 1:37:31
  if there's any other things involved with it?
• 1:37:35
  Because I know of Phoenix, right?
• 1:37:37
  Can like come to action come back but I'm curious if if there
• 1:37:42
  is something else mentioned about her being cursed like
• 1:37:46
  this. Can she do anything in that
• 1:37:48
  form? You know, maybe.
• 1:37:51
  Maybe Vasa isn't really cursed. Maybe Koshi just unlocked
• 1:37:55
  something that was within her. You know, it's not really like
• 1:38:00
  he's not really making her that that is what she is.
• 1:38:04
  I mean, have we ever really thought of that?
• 1:38:06
  But she can't do it on a wimp like on choice, right?
• 1:38:11
  Well, he might stay controlling that.
• 1:38:13
  No, but he may. Have been unlocked it.
• 1:38:16
  The spell curses had a shift into a radiant, fiery bird at
• 1:38:19
  dawn, reverting to a human form only at night.
• 1:38:25
  So she's not doing it free will. So I mean he could if he
• 1:38:31
  unlocked it. I mean he is a death God.
• 1:38:33
  I mean, he turns women into Swans on his lake.
• 1:38:36
  So I mean, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he
• 1:38:39
  would be able to control it. I like this one.
• 1:38:43
  Elaine Archron has a vision of a bird of fire, leading many
• 1:38:48
  readers to theorize about Aylan because she's the Firebird in
• 1:38:53
  Throne of Glass. Potential crossover connections
• 1:38:57
  or references to the Firebird legend.
• 1:39:00
  But if she's saying a bird of fire, she could also be saying
• 1:39:02
  Bassa. It could be, I don't know.
• 1:39:06
  That's what I'm saying. I mean, over over in the next
• 1:39:09
  few months, at least once a month, we are going to continue
• 1:39:13
  with the ACOTAR miniseries at these bonus episodes so that we
• 1:39:19
  can see what other insane theories that are out there
• 1:39:21
  because people have right now, because it is getting so close
• 1:39:25
  for Book 6 come out. A lot of people have so many
• 1:39:29
  more theories. These are just a few, you know,
• 1:39:33
  that we have or not that we have that that we are talking about
• 1:39:37
  today. I think there's a lot we don't
• 1:39:42
  know. Now.
• 1:39:43
  I know Book 6 when it comes out, it's only 350.
• 1:39:46
  Some pages. I believe it's under 400.
• 1:39:49
  That's all. It is ridiculous.
• 1:39:51
  Yeah, but then the one in January is really long, right?
• 1:39:54
  It's like 900 and some pages. Yeah.
• 1:39:57
  So because it's three of the four plots, because it's four
• 1:40:01
  parts, right. So this is we're getting three
• 1:40:04
  of the more parts. Correct.
• 1:40:06
  And she's writing that final one is I don't know, is this going
• 1:40:12
  to be the end of the series? I don't, I don't know.
• 1:40:17
  I think it just all depends on what we read in book 6 and what
• 1:40:21
  we read in book 7. Do I think book 8 will be the
• 1:40:23
  final? She did not seem to indicate
• 1:40:26
  that this is the end of the series.
• 1:40:29
  But it I think maybe what she's doing is kind of like how like
• 1:40:34
  LJ Andrews does her series. You know, it's like 9 books
• 1:40:38
  long, but you're following a couple, you're following a
• 1:40:41
  couple, following a couple. So I don't know, I think it'll
• 1:40:45
  be interesting. I think it has something to do
• 1:40:46
  with like how Bloomberry Bloomsbury is re releasing the
• 1:40:50
  hardcovers and from the looks of it they look like the
• 1:40:54
  paperbacks. So I'm excited about that
• 1:40:58
  because then maybe my hardback will match my paperbacks.
• 1:41:03
  Yeah, but they won't be the same size.
• 1:41:06
  You don't think they'll be the same height?
• 1:41:09
  No. I heard in America our
• 1:41:11
  paperbacks will only be available in a year after
• 1:41:14
  release. But see, I'll get the paperbacks
• 1:41:18
  straight away. Yeah.
• 1:41:21
  And now see when I have my Crowns and Niaxia series by
• 1:41:25
  Chris Abroadment, I have the paperback and I have the
• 1:41:29
  hardback and they're the exact same size.
• 1:41:32
  They're just, you know, one's hardback, one's paperback.
• 1:41:34
  So I'm hoping that ACOTAR will be the same thing, but we'll see
• 1:41:40
  because I have it pre-ordered. So we'll find out.
• 1:41:43
  Ladies, have you enjoyed this today?
• 1:41:46
  Our ACOTAR. This was awesome.
• 1:41:48
  Yeah, yeah. But like I said.
• 1:41:51
  I've loved it. Well, I love it.
• 1:41:53
  I think it's fun talking about these different things and the
• 1:41:56
  different ideas that people have.
• 1:41:59
  One of these days here soon, hopefully, maybe we'll be able
• 1:42:01
  to do an Instagram Live or TikTok live and we'll talk about
• 1:42:06
  people's theories and see what some theories that other people
• 1:42:10
  have on. But this was awesome.
• 1:42:15
  This was really fun getting to find other people that know
• 1:42:18
  about the Sarah J Mass verse and, you know, getting to talk
• 1:42:22
  the theories because you just see it on reels, but you can't
• 1:42:25
  like talk to anybody about it. So this is super fun.
• 1:42:29
  I, I enjoy it. I thoroughly I love doing the
• 1:42:32
  conspiracy theories of the of the mass verse because I'm super
• 1:42:36
  excited to see how correct we'll be or how far off we were from
• 1:42:40
  the target. But it's a but it's a bye bye.
• 1:42:44
  It's it's super fun. But but what was I just going to
• 1:42:49
  say? But I don't know.
• 1:42:50
  We'll see what happens. We'll see.
• 1:42:52
  I mean, just from Sarah's little caginess and stuff from the
• 1:42:55
  conversation when she had the podcast, like, you know, when
• 1:42:59
  they asked why is there a pool of moonlight in the Spring Court
• 1:43:02
  and she's like, why are you asking me that?
• 1:43:04
  Why are? People thinking this and they're
• 1:43:06
  like, you know, she's like, you thought of these things and
• 1:43:09
  she's like, oh, yeah, it was me. She's cagey.
• 1:43:12
  She's cagey. She she knows more and she's
• 1:43:15
  hiding things from us in plain sight is what I think.
• 1:43:19
  So do I think that some of our theories could be correct?
• 1:43:22
  Yes. Do I think some of our theories
• 1:43:25
  are absolutely wrong? Yes, at the same time.
• 1:43:29
  Yeah, yeah. Oh wow.
• 1:43:31
  To get it mixed with Throne of Glass, but.
• 1:43:37
  She but but the thing that makes me think, at least for this
• 1:43:41
  first book, possibly that Throne of Glass may not really have a
• 1:43:45
  play in it because she was very much she didn't tell people to
• 1:43:50
  read make sure you have Throne of Glass red, but she did state
• 1:43:55
  make sure you have Crescent City red so.
• 1:44:00
  I wonder if that's because I've already had the direct
• 1:44:02
  crossover. I don't imagine she's going to
• 1:44:08
  introduce Throne of Glass in 350 pages.
• 1:44:11
  No, right? This one is going to be so hard
• 1:44:14
  to wait for the next book. Like you can just tell it's
• 1:44:18
  going to end on like a chokehold 00.
• 1:44:21
  Absolutely. I think it absolutely will, but
• 1:44:24
  I need at least we don't have that long of wait because it
• 1:44:27
  comes out what, the 27th of October?
• 1:44:29
  So then we have a November, December and then it's the 12th
• 1:44:32
  of January. So it's after the holidays. 2
• 1:44:36
  1/2 months I don't. I don't know.
• 1:44:38
  Now, of course, we are going to continue our ACOTAR miniseries
• 1:44:42
  even after the next book comes out, because then we're going to
• 1:44:45
  have theories of what books to have.
• 1:44:49
  But between now and and October, we're going to do multiple of
• 1:44:53
  these theories just to see what we all figured out.
• 1:44:59
  So awesome. I think so too, and we'll see if
• 1:45:03
  anybody wants to fight us in the comments and see what people's
• 1:45:07
  thoughts are, but from the structural parallels and the
• 1:45:12
  hidden secrets in the universe are just absolutely genius.
• 1:45:17
  Genius. Let us know in the comments on
• 1:45:20
  YouTube or over on our podcast Instagram at 2 Girls 1 TBR what
• 1:45:25
  you think about Elaine's declaration, whether she could
• 1:45:29
  actually end up with more, if that miniature Pegasus is going
• 1:45:33
  to sprout into a full dragon, or if the library is a secret
• 1:45:38
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• 1:45:52
  So I I'm excited. I'm excited to see if you all
• 1:45:56
  get other theories. We're excited to see what other
• 1:45:59
  people have to say. Well you girl, this is awesome.
• 1:46:05
  Well, I guess all we could say now is goodnight book babes.
• 1:46:10
  All right.