Latest / European Society for Vascular Surgery / ESVS 2026 Clinical Practice Guidelines on the Management of Descending Thoracic and Thoraco-Abdominal Aortic Diseases - Part 2
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- 0:05Hello and welcome back to the ESVS podcast. This
- 0:08is Susanne Stokmans and you are listening to
- 0:10part two of the Q &A series on the ESVS 2026
- 0:13Clinical Practice Guidelines on the Management
- 0:15of Descending Thoracic and Thoracobdominoaortic
- 0:18Diseases. In this episode, we move from the general
- 0:21principles discussed in part one to the C -specific
- 0:24management. We'll focus on acute thoracic aortic
- 0:27syndromes, chronic type B aortic dissection,
- 0:30and degenerative descending thoracic and thoracobdominal
- 0:33aortic aneurysms, conditions that make up a large
- 0:36part of daily aortic practice, where decision
- 0:38-making is often nuanced and time -critical.
- 0:41I'm very pleased to again welcome Professor Wanhainen,
- 0:44Dr. Fernandez -Prendes, and Professor Katsargyris
- 0:46Thank you and hello. Thank you. Thank
- 0:49you. Hello. let's start with acute type b dissections
- 0:52the guideline clearly maintains best medical
- 0:55treatment as the cortisone for uncomplicated
- 0:57acute type b aortic dissection with blood pressure
- 1:00aimed at reducing shear stress on the diseased
- 1:02aorta by lowering the systolic blood pressure
- 1:05to under 120 millimeters of mercury and maintaining
- 1:09a heart rate under 60 beats per minute recommendation
- 1:1137 plus 3a level c they said routine tvr is not
- 1:16indicated for uncomplicated acute type b aortic
- 1:19dissection outside clinical trials. Given the
- 1:22attention generated by trials such as ADSORB
- 1:24and INSTAD, which demonstrated improved aortic
- 1:27remodeling after early TVAR in uncomplicated
- 1:30acute type B dissections, some clinicians might
- 1:33have expected a more permissive recommendation.
- 1:35What were the key limitations of these trials
- 1:38that prevented the committee from endorsing routine
- 1:40early intervention? So trials like ABSORB and
- 1:43INSTEAD generated a lot of enthusiasm. And in
- 1:47some ways, it's because they showed to some extent
- 1:49improved overtake remodeling after TBAR. But
- 1:51one of the key issues is that this hasn't actually
- 1:54translated into a clear survival benefit. If
- 1:57we look at the limitations more closely, the
- 1:59ABSORB, although it included 17 different European
- 2:02countries, it was a relatively small trial with
- 2:05only about 60 patients and was simply underpowered
- 2:08to detect any differences in hard clinical endpoints.
- 2:11The INSTED and its long -term follow -up, the
- 2:14INSTED -XL, they managed to include 140 patients.
- 2:18And while they did show improved aortic remodeling
- 2:21and even signal towards fewer aortic -related
- 2:26deaths over time, there was no significant improvement
- 2:29in overall survival, even out to five years.
- 2:33So until we have adequately powered trials showing
- 2:37a clear benefit, not just in terms of aortic
- 2:40remodeling, but clinical endpoints for the patients,
- 2:44routine TVAR in uncomplicated type B aortic dissection,
- 2:48there is no evidence to sort of support that.
- 2:51Therefore, the negative recommendation. Okay,
- 2:54that's very clear. And are there any ongoing
- 2:56or upcoming trials that might realistically change
- 2:59this recommendation in the next guideline update?
- 3:01Yes. So I think this is a very exciting moment
- 3:05for these trials. There's currently three ongoing
- 3:09RCTs, the Sunday trial, the earnest trial and
- 3:12the improve AD. And they are based in different
- 3:17areas of the world. So the earnest is aiming
- 3:19to recruit. 470 patients, which is the lowest
- 3:23number of patients that they are aiming to recruit,
- 3:26up to 1 ,100 patients that the IMPROVE -AD is
- 3:30aiming to recruit. So much bigger than any of
- 3:34the prior trials. And the clinical endpoints,
- 3:37they vary. They're not the same, but they do
- 3:39all include mortality. to some level. So there's
- 3:43two that are including overall mortality, and
- 3:46then one which has included aortic -related mortality.
- 3:49So we hope that these much bigger trials with
- 3:52increased recruitment and hard clinical endpoints
- 3:56will be able to solve some of the questions regarding
- 3:59the role of... subacute T -bar for uncomplicated
- 4:02type B aortic dissection. The guideline discusses
- 4:05so -called high -risk features in acute type
- 4:07B dissection but ultimately identifies early
- 4:10aortic expansion or a large initial diameter
- 4:12as the most consistent predictors of late aneurysmal
- 4:15degeneration. This is reflected in Recommendation
- 4:1839, Class 2b, Level C. Selected patients with
- 4:22uncomplicated acute type B aortic dissections
- 4:25and suitable anatomy with early aortic expansion
- 4:27or large initial diameter over 4 cm may be considered
- 4:31for TVAR, preferably during the subacute phase.
- 4:34Why did other proposed markers such as false
- 4:36lumen diameter or entry -tier characteristics
- 4:38not translate into stronger or more definitive
- 4:41recommendations? So thank you for this question,
- 4:44which has caused quite a lot of controversy over
- 4:47the last years, I think, and has been greatly
- 4:50debated and discussed in various meetings. It
- 4:53all comes down to the evidence. And if we look
- 4:55at where these sort of high risk features originally
- 4:58come from, it's the 2020 SVS reporting standards
- 5:04on type B aortic dissection. And then they were
- 5:07also mentioned in the 2024 thoracic surgeons
- 5:10guidelines on on aortic pathologies. But the
- 5:13key question here is, would evidence exist for
- 5:17any of those other high -risk features? And the
- 5:20answer is that if you carefully look into the
- 5:23papers, which... prior guideline documents have
- 5:26sort of endorsed these high -risk features. They
- 5:28are based on retrospective studies, frequently
- 5:32with very few patients, variable endpoints, and
- 5:37just very inconclusive evidence. So the reason
- 5:41why these haven't translated into stronger or
- 5:45definitive recommendations is just because there
- 5:48is no evidence to suggest that any of these other
- 5:51than diameter greater than 40 millimeters, actually
- 5:54translates into a higher risk for the patient.
- 5:57And the guidelines suggest that in selected high
- 6:00-risk but uncomplicated patients... TFR should
- 6:02preferably be performed in the subacute phase
- 6:04rather than during the hyperacute period. From
- 6:07a practical standpoint, how do you define that
- 6:09subacute window and which factors would make
- 6:12you intervene earlier or conversely delay treatment
- 6:15even further? So the subacute period is defined
- 6:18as anything between 15 days and 90 days. And
- 6:21the thinking is that this is where patient and
- 6:24the lamella is going to be sufficiently stable,
- 6:27but not. so hard that it's not going to be sort
- 6:31of compliant. The reasons that would make me
- 6:34intervene earlier or should make somebody intervene
- 6:37earlier, I would say are just if the uncomplicated
- 6:41type B aortic dissection with maybe high risk
- 6:43features here progresses to a complicated type
- 6:46B aortic dissection. I don't think that there
- 6:48should be any other reason in the majority of
- 6:51patients to advance or do an urgent T -var or
- 6:55a T -var in the acute phase. unless there are
- 6:58signs of complication, because this has been
- 7:00shown to be associated with increased mortality
- 7:03and increased spinal cord ischemia risk. Regarding
- 7:06delaying a potential intervention, I think this
- 7:09is, as we mentioned, patient frailty, life expectancy,
- 7:13complexity of the required repair. I think they're
- 7:16all very important points to take into consideration.
- 7:19So one thing is thinking about doing a T -bar
- 7:21for a high -risk sort of 40 -millimeter aortic
- 7:24dissection in the subacute phase. And another
- 7:27thing is if you actually need to do extensive
- 7:30cervical debranching, for example. So those would
- 7:33be my things for postpartum. a repair. Before
- 7:37we move on, it's worth noting that the guideline
- 7:39also includes a dedicated section on endovascular
- 7:41and open surgical techniques for type B dissection,
- 7:44including adjunctive strategies such as false
- 7:46lumen management. We could easily fill an entire
- 7:48episode with that topic alone. We won't go into
- 7:51technical detail today, but it's certainly a
- 7:53section worth reading closely. Acute diabetes
- 7:56section is only one part of the acute thoracic
- 7:58aortic syndrome spectrum. The guideline also
- 8:01addresses intramural hematoma and penetrating
- 8:03aortic ulcer. From a practical clinical perspective,
- 8:06what do you see as the key differences between
- 8:08intramural hematoma and penetrating aortic ulcer
- 8:12in terms of diagnosis, initial management, and
- 8:15long -term follow -up? So I think those are great
- 8:17questions and things that we actually need more
- 8:21evidence on. Intramural hematoma has been defined
- 8:24as the presence of blood in the medial layer
- 8:26of the aortic wall and normally extends for a
- 8:29significant longitudinal part of the wall, whereas
- 8:32penetrating aortic ulcers are more focal disruptions
- 8:36of the intima and the patient population that
- 8:40is affected by them can vary between both of
- 8:43them. In terms of diagnosis, initial management,
- 8:45in long -term polio, I think that there is more
- 8:48uncertainty regarding the natural evolution of
- 8:52intramural hematomas. For example, reported rates
- 8:54of type B intramural hematoma progression in
- 8:57literature vary between 4 % and 50%, basically,
- 9:00so very large discrepancy. And I think that for
- 9:04both intramural hematoma and POW, when they present
- 9:07and if they are uncomplicated, conservative management
- 9:10is going to be indicated in both cases with follow
- 9:14-up. But the natural progression of the intramural
- 9:17hematoma, I feel like it's more unpredictable.
- 9:20Regarding penetrating aortic ulcers, I think
- 9:23a lot of them we see actually as incidental findings
- 9:26at the current moment with the amount of CTs
- 9:29that are being performed in asymptomatic patients.
- 9:32presentation can be quite different. But again,
- 9:34if they are uncomplicated, the initial management
- 9:38is going to be conservative and long -term follow
- 9:40-up, I think, is going to be dependent on the
- 9:43form of presentation and the extent of the disease
- 9:48or size of the penetrating aortic ulcer. In daily
- 9:52practice, management of intramural hematoma and
- 9:55POW can be challenging, especially when patients
- 9:57are initially treated conservatively. Which clinical
- 9:59or imaging features should in your most clearly
- 10:02lower the threshold for endovascular intervention.
- 10:05I think that's a great question and maybe not
- 10:07one that is going to be answered in the same
- 10:08way across different countries, maybe different
- 10:12positions. Obviously, I would say any signs of
- 10:15clinical progression. So if a patient turns from
- 10:18being uncomplicated to complicated or presents
- 10:20with subacute chest pain, thoracic pain without
- 10:23any other indication for it, that's an indication.
- 10:26And also radiological progression. So in terms
- 10:29of rapid growth or significant expansion or if
- 10:34it's an... hematoma, also just progression. Sometimes
- 10:38you see new sort of entry tears in the hematoma
- 10:41that are showing sort of activity. So I think
- 10:44those are all indications or aspects that can
- 10:48make you think about making, you know, an earlier
- 10:51intervention. I think the literature here is
- 10:53interesting and can be challenging to read. So
- 10:57for example, for penetrating aortic ulcer, I
- 11:00see papers treating a small uncomplicated pulse
- 11:04with excellent results. They conclude that therefore
- 11:07we should treat them. But I always come back
- 11:09to you. But was it necessary to treat? Was there
- 11:12an indication? And I think small, uncomplicated
- 11:15POWs, there are no evidence for the benefit of
- 11:18the patient to be treated at all. Most of all,
- 11:20I agree with the need of more evidence in these
- 11:23two pathologies. I do agree also with Anders
- 11:26and Carlotta, and the data are really limited
- 11:28in the available evidence. Obviously, if it is
- 11:32an uncomplicated POW, I wouldn't treat it personally,
- 11:35unless it showed signs becoming complicated,
- 11:39like... clinical deterioration and also radiological
- 11:42deterioration. And of course, we should not forget
- 11:45that the anatomy plays a role. If it is a relatively
- 11:48easy penetration of the culture with good proximal
- 11:51and ceiling zone, we can treat it with a short
- 11:53TIVA without having to do any cervical debranching.
- 11:56We may decide to be more aggressive if we have
- 11:58an indication. Otherwise, we may have more complex
- 12:01anatomies to be more kind of watchful waiting
- 12:05and see what happens. And recommendation 48,
- 12:08class 2A, level C, states that patients with
- 12:11complicated penetrating aortic ulcer or intramural
- 12:13hematoma of the thoracic aorta should be considered
- 12:16for TWAR. In this context, complicated includes
- 12:19signs of rupture, pseudoaneurysm formation, malperfusion,
- 12:23rapid expansion, or refractory or recurrent pain.
- 12:26This approach differs from acute diabetes section
- 12:29where complicated disease is essentially limited
- 12:31to rupture or malperfusion and where other so
- 12:34-called high -risk features play a much smaller
- 12:36role in triggering intervention. As we discussed
- 12:39earlier, could you explain why the guideline
- 12:41makes this distinction between these entities?
- 12:43Again, I will say what we were just discussing,
- 12:46that there is very, very little level of evidence
- 12:49with natural history and disease progression
- 12:51with both of these entities. So both of these
- 12:54recommendations are based on consensus. And the
- 12:57idea was to try and sort of limit or be as accurate
- 13:03as possible in terms of what complicated penetrating
- 13:07aortic ulcer or intramural hematoma actually
- 13:09is and try to in some ways limit over treatment
- 13:13of maybe small powers that as we discussed don't
- 13:17actually require an intervention just because
- 13:19there is very little evidence regarding the natural
- 13:23evolution. We need If I understand you correctly,
- 13:26we need more studies on conservatively managed
- 13:29intramural hematoma and PALS, right? Not treated,
- 13:33but conservatively managed and see the long -term
- 13:35outcome of those. I think we need to understand
- 13:38the natural evolution of both of these entities.
- 13:41And I feel that maybe intramural hematoma may
- 13:44be a more aggressive disease than PALS, just
- 13:47because of the way that we are seeing its natural
- 13:50presentation. And as we mentioned, penetrating
- 13:53aortic ulcer. A lot of them are now seen as incidental
- 13:57findings on CT imaging in asymptomatic patients
- 14:01that then, you know, you have follow up after
- 14:03five years, 10 years, and there is absolutely
- 14:05no progression. And I think this is quite frequent
- 14:09in our clinical practice. So, yes, absolutely,
- 14:12Anders. I think we need to understand the natural
- 14:14history of untreated intramural hematomas and
- 14:17PALS. That helps put the acute aortic syndromes
- 14:19into perspective. Let's now move on to chronic
- 14:22type B aortic dysplasia. section, where the challenge
- 14:24shifts from acute risk to long -term surveillance,
- 14:27timing of intervention, and patient selection.
- 14:29Recommendation 52, class 2A, level C, maintains
- 14:32a 60 mm diameter threshold for elective intervention
- 14:36in chronic type B dissection. Given the increasing
- 14:38availability and safety of advanced endovascular
- 14:41techniques, why did the committee decide not
- 14:43to lower this diameter threshold? There are some
- 14:45studies available on the natural history of thoracic
- 14:48and thoracoabdominal aortic aneurysms, suggesting
- 14:51that at a diameter around 6 cm, the risk of rupture
- 14:55increases significantly, and therefore preventive
- 14:58treatment should be considered at this diameter
- 15:00and thereafter. Obviously, endovascular techniques
- 15:03have evolved over the years and show very good
- 15:06early outcomes, but we should not forget that
- 15:09these techniques, especially in the case of a
- 15:11complex post -dissection thoracoabdominal aneurysm,
- 15:14complex techniques and require also often multiple
- 15:17interventions during follow -up. So it is clear
- 15:21that we need to balance also those issues against
- 15:23the risk of rupture of post -dissection thoracic
- 15:26abdominal aneurysm. And this is why, after all,
- 15:29we decided not to lower the threshold below six.
- 15:32Having said that, it is important to realize
- 15:34that aortic diameter alone can be influenced
- 15:37also by body size. Normalizing it by body surface
- 15:41area or body height may provide a more standardized
- 15:44measure of aortic size relative to an individual's
- 15:47body, which may be a better predictor, after
- 15:50all, of aortic aneurysm rupture and growth than
- 15:53simple aortic diameter. And this can be particularly
- 15:56useful in women. Thus, we have also a second
- 15:59recommendation, a lower diameter threshold equal
- 16:02or more than 5 .5 for repair that may be considered
- 16:06in some selected patients based on their aortic
- 16:09size index or in cases of significant growth.
- 16:12case. And the guideline discusses more complex
- 16:15endovascular strategies for chronic diabetes
- 16:17section, including fenestrated and branched repair
- 16:20and adjunctive techniques such as false lumen
- 16:22occlusion in recommendation 55 to 57. These approaches
- 16:26are generally supported by class 2A or 2B recommendations
- 16:30with level C evidence. Which of these strategies
- 16:32do you personally find most promising and where
- 16:35do you think the evidence is still too limited
- 16:36to justify wider adoption? The use of fenestrated
- 16:39and branched technology as a first -line treatment
- 16:42for post -disease. section for abdominal aneurysms
- 16:44is now recommended indeed with a class 2a recommendation
- 16:48and I do think that we have gradually obtained
- 16:50an important body of evidence from different
- 16:53centers around the world to be able to support
- 16:55such a recommendation. Outcomes are very promising
- 16:58at least in the early and mid term of follow
- 17:01-up and I do really believe that these techniques
- 17:03should be considered primarily for the treatment
- 17:06of this pathology. Now with regard to the techniques
- 17:09to manage and occlude the false lumen we have
- 17:12some data showing that they might be helpful
- 17:14as an adjunct to the primary management of the
- 17:17true lumen. And for the time being, we have a
- 17:19recommendation plus 2B, which is fine for now,
- 17:23I think, according to the data we have available.
- 17:25In my personal view, I think we may see an increasing
- 17:28use and role of these techniques in the future.
- 17:31And if we get more evidence about the longer
- 17:33-term efficacy of these false -lumen adjunctive
- 17:35techniques, we may even be able to change the
- 17:38class of this recommendation towards a stronger
- 17:41recommendation in the future guidelines. Let's
- 17:43see. I think false lumen occlusion has two benefits.
- 17:47It could either be part of a definitive treatment
- 17:50if you have a localized allotation in the thoracic
- 17:54aorta, or it could make it possible to stage
- 17:57the procedure. So you treat the most critical
- 18:00part first, and then you can wait maybe years
- 18:03before you have to extend it distally with a
- 18:06fenestrated device. So I agree with Thanos that
- 18:09you will probably see an increased use of this
- 18:11technique. And the guideline makes a strong class
- 18:13one. level C recommendation 59 for individualized
- 18:16long -term clinical follow -up and serial cross
- 18:19-sectional imaging after both endovascular and
- 18:21open repair of chronic type B dissection. Given
- 18:24the wide variation in disease extent, repair
- 18:26strategies, and patient fitness, how should clinicians
- 18:29practically tailor the intensity and duration
- 18:32of follow -up in daily practice? Indeed, given
- 18:34the high risk of late complications and disease
- 18:37progression requiring reinvention in these patients,
- 18:40long -term clinical and imaging follow -up is
- 18:43recommended after any type of chronic type B
- 18:46aortic dissection repair. And this is clear.
- 18:49Obviously, now we need to discuss some things.
- 18:52The frequency of imaging surveillance should
- 18:54be individualized based on factors such as extent
- 18:57and type of the repair, previous imaging findings,
- 19:00and life expectancy of every patient. We should
- 19:03try to find ways, obviously, to balance the risks
- 19:06against the benefits of frequent imaging surveillance,
- 19:09especially for young patients. Patients, for
- 19:11example, that have endovascular repair with a
- 19:14safe, so to say, proximal and distal landing
- 19:16zones, maybe in previous surgical grafts. may
- 19:19have, for example, less risk for later complications
- 19:23and may be considered for a less frequent cross
- 19:26-sectional imaging over time. On the other hand,
- 19:29patients with genetic autopathies may be more
- 19:32prone to progression of disease and we may need
- 19:34to restrict our surveillance protocol for these
- 19:37patients. Having said that, we need especially
- 19:40to be careful in younger patients to consider
- 19:43also MRA techniques instead of only CTA for some
- 19:46of our post -op controls. is medically acceptable
- 19:50in an attempt to reduce radiation burden in these
- 19:53patients that have also a longer life expectancy.
- 19:56So they will need many CTAs in their lives. Also
- 19:59patients showing stable or shrinking aneurysm
- 20:02sac behavior and overall a very good sac remodeling
- 20:05over the years might be considered for a less
- 20:09strict follow -up protocol after some point.
- 20:12Also with alternative modalities like combined
- 20:15ultrasound and some x -ray. particularly for
- 20:19pathology that is mainly confined in the paranal
- 20:22part of the aorta, for example. Thanos, can I
- 20:25ask you, do you agree that a default follow -up
- 20:27frequency could be annual follow -up, and then
- 20:30it can be upgraded or downgraded depending on
- 20:33all these individual factors? Yes, absolutely,
- 20:36Anders. I think we should do that, given that
- 20:39not every patient is the same, and there are
- 20:41several different factors that may affect our
- 20:43follow -up protocol. Some patients may need it
- 20:45more frequently than some patients. may indeed
- 20:47can be a more relaxed follow -up protocol. To
- 20:51round off this second episode, let's turn to
- 20:53degenerative descending thoracic and thoracobdominal
- 20:56aortic aneurysms, where the guideline clearly
- 20:58focuses on treatment strategy and technique.
- 21:01In this section, the guideline promotes an endovascular
- 21:03first strategy for both descending thoracic and
- 21:06thoracobdominal aortic aneurysm, as stated in
- 21:08Recommendation 64, Class 1, Level B, 65, Class
- 21:122A, Level C. At the same time, Recommendation
- 21:1466, Class 2B, Level C, still leaves room for
- 21:18open repair in selected low -risk patients. In
- 21:21contemporary practice, how absolute is this endovascular
- 21:24first paradigm and which patients should you
- 21:27still actively consider for open surgical repair?
- 21:30I think that given the significantly lower perioperative
- 21:33mortality and morbidity of endovascular techniques
- 21:35in this complex pathology compared to open repair,
- 21:39endovascular repair should be indeed considered
- 21:41the first -line treatment in the thoracic and
- 21:43the thoracobdominal aorta. And if we look around,
- 21:46this is actually what is happening also in real
- 21:49life in most institutions nowadays. Now, open
- 21:52repair has still a role, particularly in some
- 21:54younger patients with genetic autopathy or in
- 21:57case of previous failed endovascular repair with
- 22:00multiple attempts to correct the problem by endovascular
- 22:03means, some extreme cases of infection or autoesophageal
- 22:06fistulas, and certainly in some cases where an
- 22:09endovascular solution is not possible at all
- 22:12for anatomical reasons. Also, in some less common
- 22:15scenarios of compression symptoms like pain due
- 22:19to vertebral erosion, an open repair may be considered
- 22:22in some anatomies if the patient, of course,
- 22:24is deemed fit for such a big procedure. And a
- 22:28very practical and sometimes controversial issue
- 22:30is celiac artery coverage during TVAR. Recommendation
- 22:3467 states that if celiac artery coverage is required
- 22:37to achieve an adequate seal, revascularization
- 22:39should be considered when collateral flow from
- 22:42the superior mesoteric artery is insufficient,
- 22:45preferably by endovascular means, class 2A, level
- 22:47C. In daily practice, how do you assess whether
- 22:50collateral circulation is truly adequate and
- 22:53where do you think clinicians most often underestimate
- 22:55the risk of visceral ischemia? Indeed, coverage
- 22:58of the celiac artery is not without risks and
- 23:01not without consequences in many cases. And to
- 23:04my opinion, every effort should be made to preserve
- 23:06the celiac artery if possible. Now, if this is
- 23:09not possible and celiac needs to be covered,
- 23:12collateral circulation should be assessed on
- 23:14preoperative CTA. If adequate collaterals through
- 23:18the gastroduodenal artery are demonstrated, then
- 23:21celiac artery coverage without revascularization
- 23:24may be considered. is, of course, if we have
- 23:27no definite conclusions from the CTA, we can
- 23:30use also a balloon occlusion technique of the
- 23:33celiac and then do an angiography through the
- 23:35SMA. And this may help us check if the collateral
- 23:38circulation is adequate or not. Only for cases,
- 23:41of course, that the CTA is not really very much
- 23:43helpful. A situation that one can underestimate
- 23:46the risk of visceral ischemia, to my opinion,
- 23:49and just say easily, let's cover the celiac,
- 23:52is when the celiac appears to be stenosed in
- 23:54the CTA, and this is due to compression of the
- 23:56median arcuate ligament. And actually, this is
- 23:59a very common imaging finding, to my opinion.
- 24:01Many patients come with these findings, and these
- 24:04are symptomatic. But even if we have this stenosis
- 24:06in the imaging, this does not necessarily mean
- 24:10that the celiac antegrade perfusion is really
- 24:12blocked or reduced. So this finding should not
- 24:15be interpreted very easily as a sign that we
- 24:18can easily sacrifice the celiac with artiva,
- 24:21as some clinicians may think. Because sometimes,
- 24:24if there is no good collateral circulation, we
- 24:26may end up with serious problems in visceral
- 24:29ischemia. And for thoraco -abdominal aneurysms,
- 24:31the guideline recommends fenestrated and branched
- 24:34endovascular repair as first -line therapy, but
- 24:36also makes some more nuanced recommendations
- 24:38regarding target vessel incorporation. Recommendations
- 24:4168 to 70, class 2A and 2B level C, suggest that
- 24:45fenestrations may be preferred over branches
- 24:48for the renal arteries when anatomy allows and
- 24:51that bridging stent choice should be individualized.
- 24:54From your perspective, which of these technical
- 24:56decisions have the greatest impact on long -term
- 24:59durability and re -intervention rates? I must
- 25:01say I am personally very happy that we decided
- 25:03also to include such technical recommendations
- 25:06because these are very important to my opinion.
- 25:10address some very important technical aspects
- 25:13and they have also an impact on long -term durability
- 25:16of these repairs. We do know that the Achilles
- 25:20heel of this fever and beaver procedures during
- 25:23follow -up are the target vessels and particularly
- 25:26the renal arteries that present with higher instability
- 25:29rates and higher occlusion rates. So every effort
- 25:32should be made to try to tailor the graph in
- 25:35such a way that we can reduce these complications
- 25:38from the target vessels and particularly from
- 25:40the renal arteries. Especially for the renal
- 25:42arteries, we have important evidence showing
- 25:44that fenestrations may have significantly better
- 25:47performance. latency rates compared to branches.
- 25:49And this, to my opinion, is something that we
- 25:51need to keep in mind and try to address therein
- 25:55a lot is with fenestrations if this is anatomically
- 25:57possible. Branches are, of course, technically
- 26:00easier in many cases and more forgiving than
- 26:03fenestrations in terms of achieving initial technical
- 26:06success. But still, I think that in cases we
- 26:09do expect to have a good opposition of the graph
- 26:12to the vessel wall, we need to take the extra
- 26:15effort and plan fenestrations for even if this
- 26:19means sometimes that we may have a more demanding
- 26:21procedure. Now, with regard to the bridging stance,
- 26:24again, the problem is more relevant with branches
- 26:27for the renal arteries. Here, we are still clearly
- 26:30lacking a dedicated ideal bridging stance, I
- 26:32would say. And I think we should really decide
- 26:35on a case -by -case basis, looking at each target
- 26:37vessel, the exact anatomy, not only of the target
- 26:40vessel itself, but also of the aortic lumen dimensions
- 26:43at the level of the target vessel and the different
- 26:46angulations. In some cases, for example, we need
- 26:48a high radial force at the level of the branch
- 26:51of the ground. But at the same time, we also
- 26:53need more flexibility and more conformability
- 26:56distally where the bridging stand seals into
- 26:59the target vessel. So in many cases, we should
- 27:02even consider a hybrid configuration of a balloon
- 27:06expandable stand approximately and a self -expanding
- 27:10distally in the target vessel. And this may be
- 27:13one choice we need to consider for now. And I'm
- 27:16talking, of course, for the difficult renal target
- 27:18vessels. Especially long branches to the renals
- 27:22are something that should be avoided. But if
- 27:25you have them, I think surveillance is important
- 27:28and early re -intervention if you suspect some
- 27:32problem, kinking. But also information to the
- 27:35patient that if they experience sudden pain,
- 27:38they need to seek medical attention immediately
- 27:40because there could be an occlusion that can
- 27:43be saved or fixed if they come in early. and
- 27:46this brings us to the end of this episode where
- 27:48we discussed acute thoracic aortic syndromes
- 27:51chronic diabetes section and degenerative aneurysmal
- 27:54disease there is much more in the guideline that
- 27:56we have not covered today so i would encourage
- 27:58all our listeners to read the complete guideline
- 28:00for additional detail and context in the next
- 28:03episode we will shift focus to rupture trauma
- 28:05and post -operative complications where decisions
- 28:08are often made under very different circumstances
- 28:10thank you to my guests and my listeners for being
- 28:12here today until next week bye bye bye Bye. Thank
- 28:16you.