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Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcome back to gate Leapers. I'm going to
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keep this introduction brief because there's plenty of Superman knowledge on display from our captains
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and our players today, and I want to save time for that. As
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you can tell from the title, this is our Superman episode. We have
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leaped back into the world of DC, this time specifically with that alien guy.
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Yeah, the one with the big S on his chest that stands for
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soup. I think he just stands for soup. I think I think he
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just likes soup. Look, whether you're a Superman fan or not, this
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episode is an absolute riot. John and Ben of Geek Exploration, the podcast
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as well as Space Oddities, the comic where our guest players returning guest players
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for this episode, and oh boy, did they bring it. The knowledge,
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the laughs. They are kings among geeks, and I don't think that's
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an insult based on the name of their podcast. I think I think that's
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a that's a big compliment. We're all king geeks here at gate Leapers with
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So as soon as you're done listening here go check out the return of Gee
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Exploration, a once a month debrief of everything geek culture, nerd culture,
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if you've got a busy schedule but you're still a massive nerd. Gee Exploration.
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But now let's get right into it. It's Gateleapers, Superman, Hello,
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and welcome to Gatesleepers, the pop culture game show that shines a spotlight
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onto everyone's favorite fandoms. I am your games master and bold hyper capitalist Matt
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Watson's obviously not true, but of course we couldn't play these games. Jeff
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Bezos real life like Uther Jeffer, you know you know what? I was
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more focused on the bold thing than being staunchly anti capitalist. So yeah,
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but of course we couldn't play these games without our pair of Kryptonian captains.
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Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's or Dres
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Stevenson. It's me in the sky inexplicably, and he's truth, Justice and
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the British way, sorry, the American way. It's Jason Owyn mat In
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the edit put the John Williams Superman at dav A. You're doing a bit.
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Oh this is for the patrons. I'm in a Superman shirt. I'm
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ready. Motherfucker's you kept that so well hidden? Here I go. Look
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at how ripped he is. Look at a shaded muscle. Oh yeah,
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so hello captains. I can see you're very much ready, Jason for this
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episode, so I don't even need to ask you. Are you ready for
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a series of games about one of the first superheroes but sort of a middle
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period alien. You're ready for that period? Yeah, it'd be louds aliens
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before. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Yeah, I'm really ready.
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I'm really Oh yeah, I oh the glasses gone, whether Asian tile
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floor and cheer. I think I'm as ready as I'm gonna be sure not
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not a Superman fan, Audra, Oh, I mean I like him.
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He's Superman is not. I haven't watched enough to be confident. Okay,
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well have you watched of Superman? That's an incredible I haven't. Okay,
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nothing, I haven't watched any. But I did do Drinkipedia episodes on Red
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Sun. Yeah, that is true. Yeah, and they were good and
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oh gosh, what was the one where it wasn't him but it was him?
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Oh midnight? And Superman and Batman? But if they were gay for
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each other? Yeah, or just in general and specifically we're dating. Yeah,
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I don't remember what the what the context there was? And Batman aren't
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gay for each other? Misunderstood that, Zack Snyder? Maybe? Um yeah,
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sorry, I'll dry. So I haven't watched anything, but I have
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been in a lot of Wikipedia and yeah, fan, you know kyle Pedia,
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wikis that's the that's the half of that word that is used commonly.
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But I've been in a lot of those. So I'm hoping that helps me.
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Yes, I'm sure it will. But I'm sure what will help you
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more is to have some teammates, because to play these games about Superman,
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you'll each need to call on a member of the Justice League to fight by
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your side. Jason, who is your teammates today. He is a comic
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book writer, a podcaster, and a regular player here at gate Leaper's it's
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been of the Geekspiration podcast. Hello, Ben Howdy, welcome back to the
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podcast. Love having you here. I love being here. I love the
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transition of calling on a member of the Justice League because a little fun fact
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about Ben as well, A little more appropriate than you think. Ben has
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a glorious beard, glorious mustache and goatee combo. Yes, where some people
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might be like, there's some all the raqueen vibes here and Ben, you
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have cosplayed amazingly as Green arrow and I just love that fact I have.
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Yeah. I think I posted a picture of you as India as John as
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Indiana Jones and me is as a Green Arrows. I forgot that John was
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Indiana Jones because I kept looking at you. I was flabbergasted. It was
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those It was those underpants outside my tights, green tidy whities. So Ben,
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Superman are you Are you a fan of the old super Guy? I
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am? Yeah, Yeah, Superman. He's uh, he's the quintessential hero,
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you know, Yeah, always it always does the right thing. He's
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got all the superpowers, he can do all the things. Um is a
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tough character to write for because of all those things, because he's so overpowered.
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But there's been some folks that have written some fantastic material for him.
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So yeah, it's a good dude. Yeah, spanning a whole long time.
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So yeah, if you if you consumed it all, if you consumed
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everything, not even close. I was a Marvel kid growing up, so
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I didn't read as much DC as some people. Speaking of some people,
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Ultra, who is joining you today. He's a comic book writer, a
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podcaster, and also a returning player. He's gonna help me out a lot.
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It's John of the Gee Exploration Podcast. Hello, John, Welcome to
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the podcast. So get to have you back. Yeah, I'm happy to
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be back. It was a lot of fun the first time, and I'm
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always jealous when I get to hear about Ben's good times on the show.
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But I'm really looking forward to this. This is this is the right one
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for me to be on. Hopefully, hopefully I can give you a reasonable
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amount of help, Autra, so you'll know more than me. That's all
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I can ask in this crazy Galaxy. So so John huge Superman fan.
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Yeah, Yeah, he's He's my favorite. He's always been my favorite as
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long as I can remember. I was running around in Superman pj's and you
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know, cutting my teeth on on drawing Superman and reading Superman comics. You
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know, I've I've always been a humongous fan, despite you know, him
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never being really received as like, you know, the cool guy, which
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I'm actually kind of surprised to hear all the love here, like I expected
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somebody to be talking shit. I think I want to expand on this a
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little bit more because going into this episode, we're gonna talk a lot about
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Superman, and people I think right off the back are going to have this
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opinion of, yes, he is really hard to write for. I think
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a lot of normal people, oh you've you've, you've dropped that very early,
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and the norm Yeah. I think a lot of Norman's think that Superman
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is boring, and it is an opinion that is valid to some extent.
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I think the thing that makes Superman interesting is not his power set, but
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the fact that he is like a symbol, right and like the gravitas of
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his character is really interesting. Good people to a lot of people are not
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interested. To me, they are because I think it's harder to be a
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good person. I think it's harder to like bear that weight and like remain
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like a moral compass. So because it's so easy for him to snap right,
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it's so easy for him to just flip that coin and just say effet
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with his like power set, and I think that's yeah, yeah, And
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that's where interesting Superman stories come from, though, is yeah, how does
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he you know? Because he can punch his way through anything, but how
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you know that's not in his character to do. He's not just gonna fucking
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punch someone's head off and wins like he's got to win with out compromising his
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character. Yeah. One of my favorite stories of as of recent times with
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Superman was Son of Superman, where we get to see Clark Kent kind of
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be a dad, and that was one of the most interesting aspects I've ever
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seen a Superman ever, was just him being a dad, like not fighting
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a crazy alien, just like having a baseball cap and taking his son to
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the local county fair was like really sweet. And it sounds like he's been
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around for along that he can now be the backdrop for almost any storyline,
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and because he is kind of like a blank canvas of he's all powerful,
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Yeah, has all these powers. Yeah, you can write any Superman story
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right, Like it's I think so. And I think that's why they expanded
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the Superman family too, is like, right, how do we know the
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small town farm boy from Kansas? What are other aspects of Superman that can
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be explore personality wise? And that's where the Superfamily comes in. Yeah,
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yeah, do you mean with all that, John, Yeah, I mean
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that that's something that's that's been tough being a Superman fan in the age that
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I have been, you know, coming from the eighties and through the nineties
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and everything. Is that as much as I love the character, like he
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can get kind of stale, you know, and and there there's it is
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hard to write like you're not going to reinvent the characters of Clark Kenner Superman.
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So I'm glad that they finally took the step to to progress him further
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in life, you know, like you said, Jason, like giving him
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a family and having him take on the dad role, like it's it's something
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that hasn't been done and that is totally logical. To do. And you
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know, there's nobody alive now, I mean, well, hardly anybody alive
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now that knows a world where Superman didn't exist, right, So it's so
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it's it's it's sort of I think everybody's kind of ready for it. Yeah,
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we want a Zaddi. Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm pretty sure
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that is all of Superman's right, just becomes a z. There's that meme
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of like, what because Henry Cavill Superman, he's like on my world,
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the S stands for hope. It doesn't look like blah blah blah. Right,
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the S stands for daddy, daddy. Um, So let's well,
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let's see if we can turn Superman into a offbeat pop culture game show.
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Let's let's see if we can do that with Superman. Well, look,
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players, the planet Crypton is dying, and as they're loading a super Baby
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into an intergalactic car seat, I'd like our pez to come up with a
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Superman the team name please, so let speak him with Jason and Ben?
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Have you got a Superman themed offering? Ben, if you don't mind,
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I'm really bad at these. I'd like to just start off with all the
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bad stuff first We're gonna end up with what you ever, whatever you say.
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I know that for a fact. Some ideas I have is the S
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shields, but the STA means simp on my planet. Like that, I
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just did that joke. That's not as good the daily Planets. Uh,
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Shack's left shoulder tattoo, it's a it's a Superman John Henry Irons. I
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really just wanted to say that because I really love John Henry Iron as a
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character. He's steel also related to Shack. That's how my brain works.
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He's a great character because he's essentially black Superman in a world where Superman is
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synonymous with America and John Henry Irons is based on John Henry the tale of
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a man of a black man who I don't I don't think he's a slave,
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but definitely definitely close. And then he kills himself for labor of America
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and then he becomes Superman. Like that's that's I know, you one and
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fifty year old folks away to make him Superman. Anyways, what do you
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have? Yeah, well I what do you have? So one of my
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first I'll start with my bad idea first, h Like I wanted to do
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a play on unmixed Spitlick and I was thinking about, like, you know,
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doing it backwards. I wasn't sure, I'll say, And then then
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I thought about the quick fireal around and I'm like, there's no fucking way
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I want to be trying to say. But it's because backwards kill tips he's
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him yes kind of, yeah, but not if you spell it like It
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depends on like it was like, it depends on if you, like I
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do sound it out as it spelled backwards or do you just know that's what
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they did in the in the animated series and that's good enough? Yeah,
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yeah, that's enough. Yeah, because do you say in these things I'm
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aware of how do you say it? Again? It's bits I'm not gonna
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say because it might come up in a question later, but still whoops.
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But the only good one I could come up with was the Otisville Kryptonians.
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Okay, what is Otisville? Otis Burg was an otis Burg? Yeah,
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so yeah, what is otis Berg? Is it based on the otis character
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from the first film? Yes, otis Berg apparently. I'm still sticking with
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the Otisville Kryptonians. I don't give a shit. I'll be wrong. I
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like it. But yeah, basically, uh otis want you know, in
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Lex's big real Estates scheme, he wanted his own little ton. That's good.
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That's good. I like cut. So the otis Berg Kryptonians. Yeah,
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I mean the only good one I had was Daily Planets. It's not
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great, So I think this is a more specific yes, he culture reference.
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Sure, it sounds like a mascot. I like. Also the sounds
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like a baseball team to John. Um, so we're gonna keep it.
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Okay, So the vill otis Ville Crypotonian's lovely stuff and moving on over to
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Ultra and John, I'm assuming John's going to be the well of knowledge here
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for a team name. Yeah, I'll probably just skip my bad ideas.
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Sorry that man. Everyone's talking about their bad ideas, and it's like everyone
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has great ideas that all of a sudden I'm like, well, crap,
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I thought mine was okay, but now I'm I'm certain it's going to be
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a bad idea. Also, no, I refuse to have this negativity honestly.
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I mean, I thought of the eradicators because that's a Kryptonian artifact and
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that sounds kind of badass. But the one that I was that I was
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most excited about was the overpants. Controversial, Yeah, iconic, Yeah,
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controversial. Yeah. Well it's interesting because in in art, because John's an
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artist, uh right, the design of Superman over pants for a long time.
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New fifty two completely took the overpants. People didn't like it so much,
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paneling blah blah blah. Rebirth was a homage that the classics. He
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went back to the Raiko costs him no overpants. Then people were up in
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arms the overpants. We want the overpants, the yellow belt and the overpants.
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And I think now after so much time, he does have in fact
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the yellow belt and the overpants or not. Yeah, who knows. Maybe
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it took. He's got the trunks on there. And to be honest,
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like I'm a I'm a fanboy purist. But that costume they had from Rebirth,
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with that that red belt and that uh that yellow pentagon, I thought
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that was perfect. I thought they they updated it, but still super respected
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the old one. It felt right and kind of a bummer that they got
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rid of it. Mike, are you do you are you a big fan
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of We're geeking out? Let us do No? This goes against the whole
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philosophy. Um, the art by Jorge Menez too, is that the Is
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that the art that you're referring to as well? Oh yeah he was,
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he was in there. That's where that's where I really fell in love with
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his stuff. Oh my god, like the anime influence, but also the
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sketchy Oh god, like that suit was perfect. Oh, Matt, can
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you write down on your sheet for our scores if you could just write over
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pants? Yes? Yeah, if you just write that down, you happy
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to go with? Yeah, yeah, over pants? Yeah. Just I
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mean, it's too late to switch teams. It sounds like Jason and John
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really want to be on the same team. No, I'm just fine.
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Yeah, appropriate for Superman. You'd you just completely stomped, we'd be overpowered.
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Then we just call you Team Batman. I got a bigger laugh from
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Jason because it is a deeper reference to well, hey, look if you
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like me and you're thinking what the hell is going on here, and you're
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thinking something along the lines of, well, actually I don't know anything about
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Superman. Is the olden DCU has butchered the property, and so he hasn't
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remained as much din the zeitgeist as say Batman, don't worry his order with
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a little segment we like to call passing knowledge. Superman is a DC comic
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superhero first created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster. He debuted in nineteen thirty
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eight. Just like your Grandma, but unlike your grandma, he has superhuman
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strength, the ability to fly, and X ray vision, although the last
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one would have helped with an earlier diagnosis, wouldn't it, oh, Grandma
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Jesus Chris? Is that how a work brain like yours get to kicks?
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Superman is really an alien named cal L and was sent to Earth as a
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baby to escape a dying planet. As a note for our reality, we
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cannot just shoot babies into space instead of addressing the environmental apocalypse. Looking at
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you, Elon, I was not saying the Fast Way has dropped the nuclear
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weapons over the poles. You're a super villain. Cal L crash landed on
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Earth and was raised by the Kents, making him Clark Kent, his mild
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mannered alter ego that looks exactly the same as him, but now he wears
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these like special glasses that make him look completely different to people he works around,
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but not the audience. What a superpower. In twenty twenty one,
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he stood for truth, justice and the American way. But how are you
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going to make money from the rest of the world with a slogan like that,
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So now he stands for truth, justice and a better tomorrow, which
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could be anywhere in the world except America. Probably you're gonna end up fighting
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every elect an official in this country. Over the last eighty five years,
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the comic books have become TV serials, movies, dramas, video games,
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Saturday Morning cartoons, and even NFTs remember them with a strong comics following a
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rebooted cinematic universe on the way and generational market penetration. Superman isn't going anywhere.
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You'd have to go back in time to nineteen thirty eight and uncreate him.
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And to do that you need to go back around the Earth one hundred
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and seventy nine trillion, yes, trillion times. Did you do the math
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on that you used to work that out in your head? Yeah, obviously
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I'm a scientist for non video viewers right now, Audre just like looked up
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into the sky and said that, like you did the calculations, because I
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did? Did you really? No, I'm saying it checks out. I
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mean, I didn't have anything wrong with that. No one can prove you
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wrong. Thank you, Audre. I hope that caught everyone up on Superman,
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and if not, this will still be a blast. So just before
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we get to the games, I've asked each player to bring in a muse
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that's something that inspires them or something they love from this particular fandom. Superman
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himself can be inspiring. He once said, you're much stronger than you think
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you are, But of course he'd say that he's got he's got super strength,
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Jason. I can very clearly see that lots of things inspire you from
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the world of Superman, but what specifically inspires you from the world muscles No.
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I have a specific story that I'd like to call it to attention,
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and it is very much inspiring me. It's a story called Superman Smashes the
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Clan, written by Jean lun Yang, one of my favorite combook writers of
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all time. I think long time listeners in the show I've name dropped him
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a couple of times. This particular story takes one of the earliest, like
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circa nineteen thirties forties stories of Superman. Ever and reimagines it as a story
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where Superman one fights the Ku Klux Klan. It's not specifically reference as the
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Kukuk clan. We know it's the Ku Kuk clan and it's fucking sick.
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Two, the protagonist that he follows are these two young Asian Americans who have
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just grated to America and are finding their way and navigating that world and landscape.
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And it's really amazing because again it calls into attention to the things that
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we've said that makes Superman great. It's not the fact that he punches the
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Cucoxan, which again it's fucking awesome. It's it's it's the fact that he
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is an immigrant. He's he's quite literally an alien our planet and to share
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and to inspire similarly, Immigrants of America is the American way. It's the
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American story. It's the great part about Superman. And that's awesome. And
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then just a quick shout out to one of our great great fans here Jp.
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He sent me over fan art ever we were doing this episode, and
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he made like a comic book of things. It will be on Twitter when
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this episode, well we'll share that and that's awesome, So thank you.
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Very much on that great muse, great piece of fan ut. Yeah,
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it's cool that we have that. Now, Okay, moving on over to
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your teammates, Ben, what's inspiring you from Superman? Mine is also a
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Superman story, lovely and it's uh, it's all star Superman by nice Grant
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Morrison with Frank Quietly on art is. It's it was like a send off
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to Superman because it was right before they did New fifty two, right or
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maybe a little earlier, they did a big reboot on Superman and basically gave
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him the opportunity to kill Superman in a way that was considerably more tasteful and
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interesting than the first time around. That is a great story, yeah,
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yeah, and it encapsulates for me, like everything that is Superman because he's
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you know, he you know, Lex Luthor sets him up and he's basically
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long on the short of it, he's dying and he knows he's dying,
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and so he's got to go around and kind of just prep things for the
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world to not have him anymore. And interesting premise, Yeah, yeah,
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and he handles it with all the the grace and supermanitude that you would hope
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he would. Yeah, And He's still into some fun high jinks there,
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you know. He goes to Bizarre World and and as like a date off
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with was it Samson and Alas? Yeah, and like like Lois Lane gets
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his powers for a day, Like it's just got this whole. It's like
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a bunch of little vignettes, but they all kind of fit together for the
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greater narrative of you know, the death of Superman state Yeah, kill him.
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Yeah, And it's it's like Grant Morrison's like love letter to the entire
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history of Superman. He pays respect and homage to everything without it being you
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know, just turbo obnoxiously cheesy, even though he's doing things from the sixties
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when it was that isn't there the panels of him saving cats from trees and
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stuff. Yeah, and like these bumbling Clark Kent Yeah, it's awesome and
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one of my favorite Lex luthors too. Yeah, in that book, barn
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One fantastic. I love that it seems to be the stories of Superman that
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seems to be inspiring for you one that's not often something I've found within the
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within the superhero genre, and most people seem to go it's cool that he
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does the thing. But yeah, the story is actually actually being important I
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found in my research and something that I'm finding here today. But let's move
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on OVA to the Ova Pens and we'll start with John. John, what's
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inspiring you from the world of Superman. Well, I'm sorry to break the
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chain here, but it's not a story there. There's too many stories.
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I mean, honestly, Ben's mus there is the best Superman story ever,
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and in my opinion, if I had to recommend one story, it would
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be that. But now I'm going with something that has inspired me outside of
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just viewing and reading and um, you know, like if if I'm having
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a little bit of writers or artist block, or I just need something to
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to get me going creatively, I throw on John Williams. Sorry, and
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it's I'm trying not to pander, you know, I'm sharing the name.
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But the soundtrack to Superman the movie, it is almost the entire length of
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the entire film, Like there's there's almost always music playing in that in that
26:03
movie, and it goes everywhere. You've got the main Superman march, You've
26:07
got the eerie Krypton music, You've got the the the all American you know,
26:15
soft horns, of the Smallville stuff. Yes, I mean, it's
26:18
just it is a gorgeous soundtrack and I can just I can just put it
26:22
on. It's like the movies playing in my head because I know exactly where
26:26
it is in the movie. I've seen that movie more times than than probably
26:30
any other single movie and any respectable manh Yeah, that's that's fantastic. It's
26:40
it's such a good soundtrack. I know. It's What I'm about to say
26:42
is kind of redundant because John Williams went on to do the soundtrack for All
26:47
of Cinema, but it was ahead of its time as a soundtrack in that
26:49
it's one of those first soundtracks that you can put on the complete thing and
26:52
be like, yeah, this is telling a story from start to finish.
26:56
Like I know, John Williams reinvented that and and did that whole thing.
27:00
But yeah, it's a fantastic soundtrack. Great mus Absolutely think it's I don't
27:06
know a ton about Superman, but if you put on that soundtrack, I'd
27:08
be like that Superman m hmm. Yeah. And sometimes Star Wars, Yeah,
27:12
sometimes separate the two. It's the there's aliens, it's John Williams.
27:18
It's all it's all very the same. Um okay, Ultra, if you
27:25
if I can possibly trouble you from for a muse from the Superman world,
27:29
oh my god, you could. I am being inspired today by the trope
27:37
in film of the glasses have got to Go Okay. So basically, this
27:42
is the trope in cinema that someone is a different person with and without their
27:48
glasses. We have Clark Kent, we have Superman. This is one that
27:51
we we It's a Superman episode, that's the one we've been talking about.
27:56
But it is very prevalent in a lot of the films that I grew up
28:02
with that were marketed to like young girls. So like the Princess Diaries,
28:07
she takes off her glass, she straightens her hair, she is unrecognizable,
28:11
she's all that um my big fat Greek wedding. Also like a key spot
28:17
is out there given her contacts and now she's hot. Yeah, it is
28:21
parodied in a lot of films this trope, and this is not the only
28:26
instance in UM Superheroes as well. Um Peter Parker in one of the Spider
28:34
Man films, his eyes get better and that's when the girl notices him.
28:40
That's when Mary Jane is like, yeah, she even calls out his eye
28:42
color. So the official trope is the glasses have got to go. That's
28:48
yes, that's the name of it. Um. I think there's like a
28:51
related one that because I don't think like pretty woman, I don't think she
28:55
has glasses. Um, so there's a there's a related trope that is like,
29:00
is that the same person like before and after a makeover? There's also
29:06
um, now when she takes her eyeballs out, Yeah, the eyeballs have
29:11
got to go. I'm sorry. Yeah. To its credit, though,
29:18
I think as Superman does it best, I've always been blown away by Chris
29:22
Reeves. Uh, Like it's not just the glasses in Superman one, like
29:26
when he like there's a scene where he's gonna where he's gonna tell Lois that
29:30
he's Superman and he takes the glasses off, and like you see him,
29:33
like he straightens up and gets all confident and tall. Yeah yeah, and
29:36
then like decides against it and like puts him back, like his performance,
29:38
and it kind of sold me on the idea that he could sell himself as
29:42
someone else because he's so it is he has like all different personality and his
29:48
his moteway moves and the way he stands in his voice all changes that could
29:52
have been my mus geez if I had thought about that. Wow, you
29:56
know, to touch back on All Stars Superman, like, if you look
29:59
at that, you will bel leave that that that that Clark Kent in That
30:03
is not Superman. Oh yeah, because he's like a burly like hunched over
30:07
guys and yeah, his clothes are all bagging and his hairs disheveled and he's
30:11
yeah, you know, it's like a dope. Yes, definitely, there's
30:15
no way he's Superman. Yeah. No. People have done studies about this
30:19
too, where Henry Cavill they use this as a prime example because he is
30:23
in fact Superman. But one time he just wore regular clothes, wore a
30:26
Superman T shirt in the middle of Time Square with a billboard with his fucking
30:32
face on it. That's Superman. Yeah, and no one came up to
30:33
him. Wow, So there's there's absolutely precedence. It was this idea.
30:38
Yeah, I've worn contact a couple of times at work. People had no
30:45
idea who I was. They walked right past me or said, oh hey,
30:52
oh wait is atra did anyone did anyone hit on you? Because apparently
30:56
that that's essentially you gain like five numbers on the scale. Wild shit.
31:04
Alright these things for audio listeners. John just removed his glasses. My glasses
31:15
are staying off. I'm driving home like this. Yeah, the Outfit will
31:21
protect you. Yeah, that's fantastic music, Aldra, I feel just as
31:26
inspired by it because you thought about it and you you've researched the tropes and
31:30
that's fantastic. Yeah. Yes, I love this. I genuinely I've learned
31:34
everything I know about Superman in the last two weeks. I watched the first
31:37
Superman movie for the first time this week. It's great. The pace is
31:42
slow. I feel like Marvel should take a lesson from that. Like,
31:45
it's just so much better. You can actually learn about the characters and pay
31:48
attention to what's happening. It's fantastic anyway. That's me gushing over you guys,
31:52
gushing. Let's play some games, right, teams, Let's head on
31:59
over to the Daily Planet to collect our first assignments. It's round one.
32:09
Round one is called Rogues Gallery. In turn, I will offer our teams
32:13
a lineup of villains. One of them will be a real enemy of Superman.
32:19
One will be from that pesky other universe Marvels, and the other will
32:25
be a fabricated name for this very game show at gate Leap, as original
32:30
as it happens. It's up to our teams to discuss and decide which faux
32:34
Superman really fought and if you can describe the real villain as well, I'll
32:38
give you a bonus point if you can describe enough about them. I'm just
32:44
feeling generous today, that's all. So we will begin with the Otisville Kryptonians,
32:51
the otis Ville Cryptonian so much more now. So here is your first
33:00
rogues gallery. Lois London, Manchester Black, and Steve Milton Keynes. Fuck
33:07
I think Manchester Black is a Marvel villain. Ben, Yeah, I've got
33:12
nothing on any of these. What was the last one? Sorry? Uh?
33:16
Steve Milton Keynes, I have no idea who that is? Uh?
33:21
Lois London? I think is made up only because God he has another interest,
33:30
love interest who grew up with him in Smallville Launa? Is it Lawanna
33:38
Lane? I'm trying to look at John's face turning all the way around.
33:46
Uh yeah, yeah, I don't. I mean it seems a bit alliterative.
33:52
Uh, that's right, which is the classic thing that Matt would do,
33:54
because he knows Marvel does that. Yeah. Yeah, stan Lee's never
33:59
done anything that wasn't all. Yeah, And I feel like that one's made
34:00
up. So I'm inching towards the last one only because I do. I
34:05
have heard of Manchester Black, and I swear he's Marvel, but he also
34:09
could be freaking DC. Dude, he's a guy. I know that Manchester
34:15
is real. I'm gonna go with your gut on this one. You're the
34:16
one where in the god all right, Matt reveal the answer is Manchester Black,
34:23
Marvel or DC. You the last one. It's the last one.
34:29
OK, that's what we're saying. Oh you'll say it, last one.
34:30
You're saying it's Steve milton Kens. Yeah, all of our British listeners are
34:36
having a good chuckle. Steve milton Keyes is not the correct answer. That's
34:39
the one I made up. Damn it. Just Milton Keynes is a random
34:43
town. The correct answer is Manchester Black. Fuck is a DC villain who
34:49
fought Superman. You've still got a chance at a bonus point, if you
34:51
want to tell me about Manchester Black, If you can any ideas Ben I
34:57
was about to start talking. I'm glad I didn't to be fair. Manchester
35:01
Black also sounds like some British cities. Yeah, they all do. Oh
35:07
yeah, that's yeah, that's damn it. Um let's uh. He's like,
35:17
I mean, Jason, you seem to know something like do you know
35:21
anything deeper than the name from okay, from memory? He's a general superpower
35:25
being uh in the fact that and this is not going to help, but
35:29
he has general super speed, super strength, blah blah blah blah blah,
35:32
flight, he might have a power that's associated with sapping, slash stealing powers.
35:40
Marie, look at fucking John's face on one all right one, listeners,
35:45
I get really riled up and really serious about comic book based ones.
35:50
The fact that John which is which goes against the entire premise of but this
35:54
is a return curring gag as well, is that it happens every single time.
36:00
But also I get competitive and I lose a lot, and it doesn't
36:02
help that John fucking knows theason. I'm crying inside, right, I don't
36:07
think you've hit on the things that I was looking for about Manchester Black.
36:10
So no bone is point that I've got that he's the leader of the elites.
36:14
That's the key thing I was looking for, and is a powerfully skilled
36:16
telepath. That's the that's the main thing about Manchester Black. So I'm sorry
36:22
he first showed up. And I think it's Action seven seventy five. It's
36:27
a legend. It's a legendary story, like if you're looking for a way
36:31
like somebody proving that Superman is relevant in modern times, like it's it's well
36:36
known for that it was written by never Mind. But yes, yeah,
36:43
yeah, if I didn't mess this up so bad, i'd be super impressed
36:46
by you. And it's very happy. But I'll see your son of a
36:50
bit. No, it's funny that you messed it up. Okay, let's
36:52
let's test John's knowledge. Let's let's offer rogues. Yeah now, now I'm
36:55
gonna suck this one up here. Yeah better, Oh god, I hope.
36:59
So, hey we go for the overpens. Here are your three names.
37:02
Ultra Humanite, UltraMantis, Black, Captain, Ultra Okay um, I
37:09
know for a fact, Audra that Ultra Humanite is DC amazing. That's where
37:15
we'll go with. That's what I'm gonna lock in that is the correct answer.
37:22
Yeah, it is. Captain Ultra is from Marvel and Ultramantius Black is
37:25
fake but also an independent professional wrestler. Saw a point for the over pens.
37:32
But John, can you tell can you tell me more about Ultra Humanite?
37:37
Why are you asking him and not? Audra is massively unfair as the
37:42
Ultra Can you tell me all about Ultra Humanite? So Ultramantius Black is No,
37:50
I've gotten nothing back to you, John Um the ultra Humanite, I
37:54
mean, geez, he was a Justice Society villain, but he he's He's
38:00
also got mental powers. He's also put his brain into different bodies over time,
38:06
including like a fat bald man and a giant white gorilla with a huge
38:12
brain. That isn't That isn't I've heard enough. That's in it for a
38:16
bonus point. That's what I've got here. That is ultra Humanite. Good
38:19
stuff. Look, superhero comics, Jason, they're all about redemption. So
38:23
let's let's give you. This is part of the hero's journey. Man.
38:29
We got a fail. One question name, Good job, John Long quiz
38:37
Long quis indeed? Okay, here we go. Sorry, here are your
38:42
next three names. Emerald Banshee, Silver Banshee or Banshee Jason, are you
38:51
gonna suck this up again? Banshee is a Marvel character unless his name is
38:57
fucking Siren. Do you agree with that? Ben there, I'm nearly certain
39:00
there is a Marvel character named Banshee, but that's generic enough to swing both
39:05
ways, right, Um, If I were to this is not part of
39:07
the game. Banshee is an X man, he died, he's Irish.
39:12
Uh So that leaves Silver Banshee. You said, yes, Emerald Banshee and
39:17
Silva Banshee Silver Banshee because I think I saw her in a cartoon one time.
39:25
Maybe let's do it, unless, okay with with Silva Banshie you trusting
39:30
me on this? Do you have any MP's No, I'm of the same
39:34
mind that Silver sounds like the right. Silva Banshee is indeed the real Superman
39:38
villain. And for a bonus point, do you remember anything from that cartoon?
39:43
She screamed? She screams. She maybe maybe she's a ghost, but
39:45
she screamed, because that's what Banshees do, right, right man? Good?
39:49
Yes? Yeah, I mean yeah, that's generally Banshee. Does she
39:52
do? I get extra points that I got the ex gender right. Yeah,
39:55
it's a it's a lady that screams, and uh, she's got silver
40:00
hair. Yeah, there's there's three key things I've got down here if you
40:05
can, if you can give me one of them, then I'll give you
40:07
a bonus point. She cheats on her texts. She oh, yeah,
40:15
that's for Superman. And uh. The third one is of course that she
40:22
likes poker so close, so close. So no bonus point that I was
40:28
looking for. I would have taken skull face paints because that's kind of the
40:30
identifying feature as she's got superhuman strength and also resistance to injury. She cannot
40:37
be cannot be harmed. She don't scream, that's she made. That's not
40:42
one of the Keith Oh she does. That's John's confirming that it wasn't one
40:45
of the main things that was at the top of the the Wikipedia. I
40:50
guess instead of cheating on Texas, I should have gone with generic superhero powers.
40:53
Yeah, yeah, this is Superman. Yes, so that was you
41:00
have the gender right and everything. Okay, let's have another lineup of villains
41:04
for the overpens. Mister Mitzel plick you son him a bitch, Doctor Tucks
41:08
a Lottle or the Impossible Man. Do you do you do you have any
41:15
any guesses? Adre No. I was here at the beginning of the episode,
41:21
and I'm still here and I am playing well. The Impossible Man's Marvel,
41:28
the middle One's made up, and mister Mix is bit like his Superman.
41:31
There we go, There we Go. That is definitely gonna be a
41:34
point. Can you describe him, John, there we go? He's a
41:37
and an imp from the fifth dimension who has reality altering powers that basically are
41:45
like magic. That is the first sentence you said. That is almost exactly
41:49
what I happen in. He even got the dimension number right, Yeah,
41:52
damn you perfect? Perfect? Where are softballs? Sorry? Okay, Ultra
41:58
Humani isn't like almost every card too of Justice League Unlimited? What is going
42:01
on? I'm so sorry. Manchester, Black and Silver Banshee have appeared in
42:07
every single TV version of Superman's in the last twenty years. I didn't watch
42:12
small Ville, Okay, so sucked. I watched small Ville and it sucked.
42:17
Right, Yeah, sounds good. Never, that's flew once and he's
42:23
Superman. That's a gap in my knowledge. So so hopefully there's a there's
42:28
a small Ville question. You can give him a small Ville question. Well,
42:31
it's your it's your question next, Jason, Oh, the Otisville Kryptonians.
42:38
Here are your three names? Give you let's give you three puns.
42:43
Oh, you've got Braykin Proxima Midnight or a Moss Fortune, a mass fortune
42:52
as fortune? What are your thoughts? Ben Proxima Midnight sounds familiar. It's
42:57
from Marvel, but I think it's a Marvel character her. Yeah, she's
43:00
one of the Black Order for Thanos. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
43:04
yeah, exactly, that's what That's what I was thinking there. You know
43:07
that, shut up, shut up, hold on, hold on. We
43:10
got a fifty fifty fall could be the real answer next time too. Yeah,
43:17
you might as well, said iron Man. All right, so we
43:20
had Amos Fortune and bray Ken, Yes, I mean those are both good,
43:25
No idea, it's fifty fifty. I've steered us wrong so far.
43:30
I'm gonna go with Amos Fortune, all right, Okay, go with Amos
43:34
Fortune. Yes, that is the real Superman villain bad. Definitely a point
43:39
there. Can you describe Amos Faultune? Uh? Yeah, he's really taxes
43:50
strong he's uh, yeah, they're villains. None of them are paying taxes
43:55
and they're ill gotten gains. Um, let's say he wears a hat.
44:00
Maybe, um again, does he maybe? Maybe he has like powers that
44:07
make you have bad luck. I'm gonna take it. I'm actually gonna take
44:10
it as one of the things that he's obsessed with luck, the concept of
44:14
luck. So and does he have a hat? John? Does he also
44:16
wear I honestly don't know the character, like I recognize the name, but
44:21
for some reason, it does feel right that he's got a hat. Yeah,
44:24
it feels like when Ben said that, I was like, good call.
44:29
I don't think someone named Amos is allowed to not wear Yeah, yeah,
44:32
it sounds like it. It's just sound like I'm really loving this.
44:37
Also ahead of the Royal Flush Gang just a few o. The Royal Flush
44:40
Gang is also an alternating gang. Okay, so that doesn't give us a
44:45
lot. All right, Well you got the bonus point and yeah it's a
44:46
good Let's have another lineup the Overpence Metal Leak Misstik or plastic my gut my
44:58
heart says plastic because Grand Metal Leak is a professional wrestler. Yeah, mystique
45:06
is definitely an X Man. Yeah, yeah, Ultra. You got a
45:09
point in the Superman episode. Wow stuff that was good and Ultra, would
45:19
you like to take a take a step at the who they might be,
45:22
what they might do. God, I've waited too long now I do need
45:25
to have an answer. Um, you can consult your teammates. Yeah,
45:30
that sounds like a great idea. I'm I'm a little I'm a little rusty,
45:36
but I know she's a female character that that explodes things, whether it's
45:42
with her own power or the ability to make explosive or you know, like
45:45
like actual physical explosives. I don't remember what, but that's that's what I've
45:50
got here, like plastic explosives. Yeah, yep, killing it. Good
45:55
stuff. Oh my god, way to downplay that deep pull there. It
46:00
just like I don't know, I mean a little rusty, but I know
46:02
exactly. I mean, if you ask me, like one story she's been
46:07
a part of, I don't know, So that'sn't part of the question.
46:12
She's just she's she's around. I love her. Whatever. Okay, I've
46:15
got one last pass of villains for each pair. These ones are a little
46:20
more dastardly as I'm removing the Marvel aspect, it's just going to be two
46:23
made up names and one real Superman villain. So here we go for the
46:29
otis Fille Kryptonians. Whisper a Dare, sing a song or tell me O
46:36
tale something. Whisper Dare? Yeah right, yeah, that that struck me.
46:44
I like it more than the others. We like it. You like
46:46
whisper a day? Yeah you don't want to sing a song or tell me
46:50
O tale? No? No, okay, yeah you spot on it is
46:52
it is Superman is Whisper a Day is Superman's villain? But can you tell
46:58
me anything more about them? See? It sounds like a lady's name.
47:05
Maybe, of course we didn't get any points for a soft spoken woman,
47:12
soft spoken but daring vicious works in the experimental accounting office for all the tax
47:28
fraud. I don't know. Maybe she maybe she's able to like uh like
47:34
con like convince people of things like you, like mind control, or like,
47:37
yeah, whisper something in the air and then they can whisper sweet.
47:40
Nothing crime with that. You'd think, wouldn't you. You'd think with a
47:45
name like that, that's that's what it would be. But no, what
47:47
I have here is this. None of your key points a soft spoken woman.
47:51
No, no, none of them. I'm not even she it's female
47:53
character. I'll be um secondary leader of the Into gang and an immortal ape
48:00
shifter is on the fandom wiki there pretty much. Nope, good I would
48:07
I would have guessed the name, but nope. Okay, so let's have
48:13
one last rogues gallery for the overpants. Here we go, doctor now t
48:21
O Morrow or test Thursday, Test Thursday, Thursday Thursday, Doctor now t
48:35
omorrow or test Thursday. It's it's t Morrow. Okay, let's go with
48:40
it to play coy bend, you know, John, John, Sorry,
48:47
and all my glasses on. This is a mistake. It is indeed t
48:55
O Morrow. And John, do you also have some some knowledge to follow?
49:00
You do? Don't even lie? Yeah, he's a he's a scientist
49:02
that that builds evil robots. He I think he might have built a mazo
49:07
and a member of the Jackson five. Yep. That's uh, that's that's
49:15
good enough. I also had that he created specifically Red Tornado as well,
49:20
but I mean you said definitely said enough um from that, and I don't
49:24
even know who Red Tornado is. That's just information from Wikipedia. But everybody
49:28
else whould ah yeah, okay, I've played a lot is also playing.
49:36
That is the end of round one. Let's ask Lois Lane to type up
49:39
the latest scores. That's pretty disrespectful. Actually, she's really quite an accomplished
49:44
journalist, and I'm asking her to do basic typist duties. However, baded
49:47
spelling in the first movie. Yes, yes, yes, always always asking
49:53
people those those lines are so good, Marvel. That's how you do quips.
49:58
Okay, that's how equips. Okay, those scores are The otis filled.
50:04
Kryptonians are on four points, but the Overpants are well in the lead
50:07
with eight points. Oh twice. It's well deserved. Okay. Up next
50:15
is round two. But first we've got to cut to some pesky commercials.
50:19
But then another exciting episode in the Adventures of Superman presented by gate Leapers.
50:32
Round two is called fan Court. It's the game where I'll ask our teams
50:37
to play the role of pop culture defense lawyers to defend some controversial Superman super
50:43
fan takes. No matter how they themselves feel about the statement, they must
50:47
defend it. And a huge thank you to JP, who Jason shouted out
50:52
at j Pantaloon's on Twitter for helping me out with some of these controversial takes.
50:57
Thanks man. The others are popular slash unpopular opinions from Reddit. So
51:01
there we go. Um, so work as a duo to deliver your arguments.
51:06
Points will be awarded for fandom accuracy, knowledge, convincing points, and
51:10
for acting like you're a hot shot lawyer from the big city. See.
51:15
I'll give each team around two minutes to defend their statement. It will be
51:19
new statements each time, so there's no like team versus team kind of thing.
51:22
This time. It's just defend that statement for two minutes and I'll give
51:25
you some points. Are we ready? Yeah? Okay, So we will
51:31
begin with the otis Fille Kryptonians and this this first statement is to do with
51:36
the Superman movies. And your statement is Superman four, The Quest for Peace
51:43
is really quite a good Superman film. I'm glad you don't hold on any
51:52
contexts, any context Remind me Superman four is the one where he stops a
51:57
nuclear exist the nuclear weapons. Yeah, it's got a nuclear or what's his
52:01
name? He has nuclear man? Right? Yeah, it's nuclear. Really,
52:07
this is not the one where he fights himself. Right, that's three
52:10
Okay, got it? Ben? Do you want to lead this one?
52:14
Do you want to take it away? And then Jason can pick up wherever.
52:16
Sure, let's let's start some jurion. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury.
52:22
You've heard, you've heard our case over the last few weeks. It's
52:25
been it's been harrowing. No time, like the president, has nuclear war
52:31
been more important. I mean, we we're at the highest nuclear threat that
52:37
we've been since the nuclear or since the Cuban missile crisis. We've got a
52:40
madman in Russia with his finger on the button, and uh, unfortunately we
52:45
don't have Superman to save us. But we get head to the uh well
52:50
not the theater, but like our living rooms and watch Superman, Uh,
52:55
you know, defeat nuclear war. And you know it's aspirational, it's important,
53:04
and a nuclear man was a very unique and interesting character. Oh,
53:12
you're convincing that you're, ladies and gentlemen of the court. I think something
53:16
that we need to look at when looking at any legal situation is precedent,
53:22
and something that is precedented is the idea that one bringing up current events,
53:30
uh certainly looks at and timeless events as well, looks at our world outside
53:37
of us. Something we cannot fathom, something that we cannot really look at
53:43
in our real world, is the idea that a singular man punches a nuclear
53:50
explosion metaphorically, you know. But that's the beauty of film, is that
53:54
we can see something that is disastrous or is even kind of a concept,
54:00
something that that Superman has on precedence done. Superman is a character who can
54:06
who can wrestle a tornado. He's someone who can reverse of flood by just
54:10
punching it with sheer will. And this is a man. All those things
54:14
happen in Superman. Fill not not Superman. This is precedence, precedents.
54:19
Okay, please, you've interrupted me, jury, What the hell is that?
54:23
Have five more seconds then? Okay? Uh, we want to look
54:27
at the fantasy of things, right, Okay, yeah, okay, okay,
54:30
So the statement was super Superman full. The Quest for Piece is really
54:35
quite a good Superman film. I heard great context. You contextualized our times,
54:38
the era we're in, Ben, and then Jason, you've looked at
54:42
precedent and the aspirational aspect of defeating nuclear weapons. So I'm gonna give you
54:46
some points because you at least made it relevant. Yeah, so I'm gonna
54:50
be three points, all right, but it is out of one hundred,
54:52
So three points out of five, you did good, You did good,
54:57
all right. Let's say I don't care how many it's out of. That's
55:00
still three points for us, Lovely Steph love As long as they get fewer,
55:07
Well, let's find out. Because I have another statement about the Superman
55:10
movies here. Superman shouldn't have turned back time to save Lois Lane in Superman
55:16
one. That's the statement I've got in front of me. I've seen lots
55:21
of fans argue about that online. I'd now like to hear that statement defended
55:24
when I have a small point that I can do. Yeah, Joy,
55:31
ladies and gentlemen of the jury. In these times, more than ever,
55:37
we need to see evidence of men experiencing big feelings and then processing them and
55:44
moving on without allowing those feelings to cause them to do something rash. And
55:51
I think that that could have Superman could have had a really good like had
55:54
a really good opportunity to do that in this situation. Um, I think
56:00
that we could have saved a lot of a lot of heartache in the world.
56:05
If we had more representation of like male emotional processing, and I think
56:10
Superman, that's the real superpower is to be able to stare your emotions and
56:19
stare him in the eyes, accept them, understand that that does not make
56:23
you weak, and then move forward. You cannot you cannot be brave if
56:29
you are not fearful. Oh you've brought this judge to teas. That's why
56:35
I think he should have let Lane die. Thoughts John, Yeah, Yeah,
56:45
I totally. I totally interpreted that backwards. So all of a sudden,
56:49
I have to reformulate my thoughts um to be honest, you know,
56:53
I agree, I agree with everything there. And also Luna Lange was a
56:58
lot nicer than than Lois was, so maybe maybe maybe he should have ended
57:04
up with her anyway instead of Lois. You can't mess with the future.
57:07
Come on. Yeah, By not processing and allowing life to move on,
57:13
he prevented something else good in his life. Yeah, yeah, No,
57:16
it's true. It's actually very similar to a lot of a lot of the
57:20
arguments I saw online. You done, you give them a time, this
57:28
objection objection to speed at which Utra talks at. I can get down to
57:36
a much smaller pace compared toitive rate that you talk at jas just a dumb
57:42
talk. I say, I say good things, but it just takes them
57:45
a long time. Hey, I think I also said significantly less than anyone
57:51
else. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, you've got more words in
57:55
and if we're counting the words, um then and also i've you know what,
58:00
I was going to actually score them three points for that, but you've
58:04
been a bit cheeky. What do you mean being fair? I just got
58:08
four point what chy? Two years? If this was this game has no
58:14
friends calling you out, you'd be like, oh, that's funny. I'd
58:19
like to petition for a change of venue. Okay, let's let's take this
58:24
outside. We'll set will now be outside. Would you care to step outside?
58:35
No? I only I give him three points three points for that one
58:37
three points apiece on either side. I don't know why, but everyone on
58:42
reddit is really mad about that, Like everyone on Reddit is like the whole
58:46
Superman franchise is ruined because he flew backwards and saved Lowis Lane. And it's
58:52
like, but if he can do that, why doesn't he do that every
58:54
time? For every show? Love? I was more upset about the physics
59:00
of the whole thing. Yes, I was like, this is not a
59:05
like I mean, the guy flying in the freeze breath and the laser eyes.
59:08
I get it, But come on, guys, I honestly thought that
59:15
was gonna be the fan core question was like, explain the physics of right
59:19
time and how that works making the Earth rotate backwards. Now he sent himself
59:24
back in time and we're just watching him go back in time. He didn't
59:28
spend the world. There we go, the actual explanation. Sure. He
59:34
move on to two more statements, this time about the world of Superman comics.
59:38
Oh okay, so the first one for the Otisville Kryptonians. Here's your
59:44
statements. Superman is a more realistic and grounded character than Batman as long as
59:51
you accept the aliens exist. Yes, absolutely, Oh that'll be easy for
59:55
you to defend though. I agree. Damn, I thought you just made
1:00:00
our argument for us. I thought we were done. Yeah, it's all
1:00:07
time now if you want to, okay, are restarting. Okay, So
1:00:10
the idea that that a Kryptonian exists is already within a fictional world of aliens,
1:00:15
And so if you want to talk about aliens and how like the physics
1:00:20
of biology work. We have to imagine a world that does not currently exist
1:00:23
within our biology, and so we have to suspend disbelief on That's how he
1:00:27
works. However, Batman is a real human being with zero metaphysical abilities.
1:00:32
It's just a man. We have evidence of men and women who are alive
1:00:38
now and their physical peak abilities. Someone like Batman existing in real life would
1:00:44
be nothing but just bones sitting inside of meat best someone. Some would say
1:00:49
that's more realistic and grounded, though, Yeah, if Batman, what do
1:00:52
you say, if you were budding in the middle of argument what the fuck
1:00:55
is going on? Then go what the fuck is going on about the bunch
1:01:00
the judge? I mean, I mean with I'm with Jason on this one.
1:01:02
I mean, like, yeah, it would be more realistic if Batman
1:01:06
stayed crippled after Bain broke his back, like he's he's a normal guy.
1:01:12
You know. So someone comes in like this guy he's been hit by cars,
1:01:15
dropped from buildings, had his back broken, Like there is no fricking
1:01:19
way this guy could keep going, Like you know, you look at NFL
1:01:22
players who are thirty five and they can barely move, and this guy's been
1:01:25
taken hits for long before that alien physiology. If you accept that aliens exist,
1:01:31
you're pretty much taken the the the brakes off the train here, like
1:01:36
they could do just about anything, and you can justify nearly anything. Also,
1:01:40
the idea that a super smart, super fit billionaire is going to go
1:01:45
around helping people is fucking ridiculous. Yeah is that time? Yep, that's
1:01:52
about time? Okay, I thank you. I appreciate that noted. Yeah,
1:02:02
good, good, strong arguments there. I think Ben got in just
1:02:07
under the wire the key the key point there for you. Why well,
1:02:12
why Batman isn't so much of a realistic and grounded character? Yeah? Um,
1:02:17
some references that made me think, actually, no, Batman is more
1:02:20
of a realistic and grounded character in the way that you were describing it.
1:02:22
But overall pretty good four points, four points, Thank you, Thank you
1:02:27
well deserved. Okay, final statements for the overpens. The death of Superman
1:02:32
was just a marketing ploy to sell comics with special covers, And we are
1:02:37
defending that statement, and you are defending that stated. I think that's just
1:02:42
accurate. Yeah, just like yes, you part um, so that is
1:02:50
absolutely a true statement. Like the writers would get together for summits and even
1:02:54
say like okay, who's got ideas? And somebody who in the back would
1:02:58
always say let's just kill them, or like let's just have Superman Low's get
1:03:01
married. One time they actually decided to do it. They created a character
1:03:06
that was devoid of any actual personality or any sort of character in himself and
1:03:15
decided to punch Superman to death in or and And it was all a gimmick.
1:03:20
You know, they had it all planned out. They each issue had
1:03:22
one less panel per page to where the last one was all splash pages,
1:03:27
which is basically all covers. They released it in, you know, four
1:03:31
different printings. There was a poly bagged edition with stickers and arm bands and
1:03:37
newspapers, there was a platinum edition, and thirty years later, this past
1:03:40
November, I believe they did it all again, except they released it in
1:03:45
more and more variant covers. We see this type of thing in a lot
1:03:50
of different industries, So making this argument isn't isn't wild. Pro wrestling ratings
1:03:55
are low. Have a wedding, ratings are low. The Taker comes back.
1:04:00
You have a big you have a big gimmick thing, and it's talking.
1:04:03
We're talking about Lana's wedding for three freaking weeks and people watched it.
1:04:09
So if you add a gimmick, something big happening that's supposed to shake the
1:04:14
whatever foundations of it and start everything anew, you're gonna make money. This
1:04:18
is transcends comic books, and that's your time adding a cherry on top of
1:04:25
already good fandom knowledge there from John. Yeah, I'm gonna give the full
1:04:29
five points for that because it educated me fully on the situation. That argument
1:04:33
should have totally been backwards, that it was not a cash strap and that
1:04:39
it actually contained a deep and meaningful story. Oh, I would have talked
1:04:44
about the importance the symbolism of Superman actually getting punched to death. Honestly,
1:04:49
the mullet that they gave Superman was something that was really brave in terms of
1:04:55
But the cherry on top was the chest hair, the idea that Superman was
1:05:00
not flawless, He's just like you and me. No chest here. Okay,
1:05:09
that is on that statement, that is the end of the rounds.
1:05:12
Let's see if Darrell's big old floating head has calculated the latest scores, he
1:05:17
has good head, and those scores are the Overpens are on sixteen points.
1:05:24
Jesus Fucking crist The Otisville Kryptonians are a little behind on twelve points. All
1:05:28
right, we broke ten. We could do this. Yeah, but still
1:05:32
still two rounds to go. Anything could happen. Yeah, Okay, it's
1:05:36
time for some ads now. Lex Corp Demands we play them, but for
1:05:41
legal reasons, our partner company does not demand. They suggest see you in
1:05:45
ninety seconds. Round three is called expanded universe. Superman is a media property
1:05:58
that has spanned many different comics series and also TV shows streaming series ord recovered
1:06:02
it. But if I described a version of Superman mostly from the comics,
1:06:09
will our superfans be able to name the series that version of Superman belongs to?
1:06:14
Fuck? Like that? Scary? I'm setting myself up for disappointment.
1:06:29
And there's a bit of a gate leaper's twist in that each description was written
1:06:32
by one of those snarky listical writing BuzzFeed interns. Like I know, I'm
1:06:38
also snarky. That's how I was able to write them, But I've never
1:06:42
written for BuzzFeed, so I can also say that previous thing yea devoid of
1:06:45
creativity, though, thank you Ben, so you got a leg up.
1:06:50
I hope at the very least this show proves that it doesn't doesn't prove much
1:06:55
else. But there we go. We will begin with the otospill Kryptonians.
1:07:00
Here is your first description. This story saw Superman land in Soviet Russia in
1:07:06
the nineteen thirties instead of Kansas, where he was raised to be a communist
1:07:11
and got the attention of Stalin Red Sun. There it is, right,
1:07:16
Son, just simple as yep, yep, it absolutely is red Sun.
1:07:20
That's a point. Thank you for that softball. You realize how it goes
1:07:25
both ways. Now, well, no, I still can argue that,
1:07:29
but I appreciate it. I argue last time, the last episode any fund
1:07:34
memories of Superman, red Son, do you enjoy the communist aspects of it?
1:07:39
It's great. I love that book, Like it's a cool, fun
1:07:42
take on Superman. I like Batman's kind of like the counter revolutionary or I
1:07:45
guess not counter revolutionary kind of yeah force in that book. It's yeah,
1:07:50
it was a fun elseworld. Yeah. I like that Batman has a Russian
1:07:55
hat but it's got ears on it. I also like that it's it's another
1:07:58
Superman turned evil. More specifically, it's because he wasn't raised by the Kents
1:08:02
that he became evil, so that right, yeah, he didn't get the
1:08:04
values that set him up to be the Superman we know. And yeah,
1:08:09
and it was an else Worlds that told a story and then was done,
1:08:12
which I like, like, well, yeah, rather than carrying on forever
1:08:15
and ever and ever. And I love that that he was still idealistic about
1:08:18
the things he was. He was right like, he was still Superman,
1:08:21
he was just raised with a different perspective, a different ideal Yeah. Yeah,
1:08:27
interesting stuff. It honestly, out of all of the Superman ones,
1:08:30
that would be the one I'd read based on the description, I was like,
1:08:32
yeah you should. It's great right up my street. Okay, moving
1:08:38
on over to the Overpants. Here is your description. Taking place in the
1:08:42
far future with a weakened and grizzled Superman. This story sees the aged Man
1:08:47
of Steel battle against clones of Hitler, Rocca, Santa Beard and use a
1:08:53
massive gun. Oh my goodness, I've got the image in my head.
1:08:57
That gun is like more ridiculous than any image gun ever. It's got like
1:09:01
a thousand barrels on it. Um did you say image gun too. That's
1:09:06
fucking hilarious. That's a stream yep, yep, I've I've got, I've
1:09:15
got a It's just a shot in the dark. So do you got anything,
1:09:17
Adre? No. I was gonna try to be like, can you
1:09:20
think of an era or like try to like help. Oh see, I've
1:09:26
I've I've got, I've got the comic in my head. I just I'm
1:09:30
for some reason, I just can't pull it. I'm gonna I'm gonna guess
1:09:34
Superman at World's End. Oh, you've left me in a tricky position.
1:09:40
Job is it? I'm gonna I'm gonna force it to a democracy of of
1:09:45
do we think we should give John the point? It's that Earth's end,
1:09:50
Superman Earth's End, which is pretty much the world like that, not for
1:09:57
an alien? What do we think should we make the game more spicy and
1:10:04
not give the point? Here's the only thing. Here's I would not give
1:10:08
the point if there's a comic called out at World's end that you were thinking
1:10:13
of. No, no, no, yeah, yeah, in my head.
1:10:21
I reckon. Even I'm kind of like Ben Ben was really funny,
1:10:26
but even I'm kind of like, give him the point? Well, the
1:10:29
fuck that's how democracy works in it, well, adres and voted, So
1:10:31
I'm going to just assume you're going to vote no. Wouldn't it give us
1:10:39
the point? But I may at a later date push for advocate for kindness.
1:10:45
Yes, yeah, where's that integrity? The point is given? Okay,
1:10:50
moving back on over, Superman gives up his never ending battle after the
1:10:56
death of Lois Lane and the advent of a more violent type of hero.
1:11:00
It's so weird to see Superman just give up on life. Giving up on
1:11:04
life is not injustice Superman. And then there's the there's the comic where he
1:11:10
goes into the sun and becomes Superman one million. It's not really that he's
1:11:14
given up on life, but he's given up on the human race, and
1:11:19
so he goes into the sun to soak up it's raised for a million years,
1:11:25
and then in a Messiah like way, he says, now you're ready
1:11:29
for me. And that's the only thing I can think of off the top
1:11:31
of my head, because I don't think that's the plot of Kingdom Come either.
1:11:34
No, okay, well, there is a more violent type of hero
1:11:38
and Kingdom Come, and he's he's I don't know if he gives up so
1:11:41
much. Is like, is like he is kind of disillusioned. It's the
1:11:47
time and that one he's older. It's a long time since I read You
1:11:53
need to read it. Yeah, I need to do an episode on it.
1:11:55
Yeah, I remember enjoying it fifteen years ago when I read it.
1:12:00
Yeah, I mean for this also, Alex Ross's art is, Oh yeah,
1:12:04
he's a beast. Um, I mean, just for the sake of
1:12:08
it, do you want to say Kingdom Come? I don't have anything better
1:12:13
than that unless yeah. I think your description was a little bit closer than
1:12:15
Superman one million. So this is why I love it is Kingdom come God.
1:12:26
Ben Ben said, Kingdom come under his breath. And then you went
1:12:30
into the DC one million thing and I was like, oh, yeah,
1:12:31
go there. I was praying for chaos as well. I was hoping that
1:12:39
would happen. But no, Kingdom come. Good job, good job,
1:12:42
good team work. Yeah, Kingdom come. Okay. Next description, Captain
1:12:46
Captivity. Superman was a skinny and scared man. He barely even played into
1:12:51
the story other than as a mcguffin to look for. It was weird to
1:12:56
have such a passive Superman in a DC story. I got it. Okay,
1:13:00
yeah, I know you do. Do you have it? Uldra hutzpah
1:13:05
Yes, wait Superman. I almost said locking it in as a joke,
1:13:15
but I chose we used up all our mercy on the last one. No,
1:13:23
this is a flash point. This is indeed flash points. Good stuff.
1:13:28
Yeah, give me Superman one million? Next? Okay, okay,
1:13:30
you want Superman one million? Next show show okay, okay, your next
1:13:36
one. Basically, Superman splits himself into two to be a more efficient hero,
1:13:43
and the whole thing was just bizarre. Um, so this technically wasn't
1:13:48
an else world story. This is Superman Red and Superman Blue, And this
1:13:51
came out of the post death of Superman situation. It was like a nineties
1:13:58
revitalization to try and make him interesting by splitting his personalities. Do you remember
1:14:02
what it was called? No? But like the idea is that it's supposed
1:14:06
to be like an else world story and we're supposed to name the title of
1:14:10
the else world story. But this was main like Earth Prime one before rebirth
1:14:16
or New fifty two for memory were they supposed to And then yeah, yeah,
1:14:20
I don't think. I think they're not all else worlds. They're not
1:14:24
all else world. Then if we have to name the world reality, it's
1:14:29
the name of the run, the name of the run. Oh, then
1:14:31
it's Superman Red and Blue. Uh, post death of Superman. I mean,
1:14:36
if that's what you're saying, I don't know about post death of Superman.
1:14:40
I've got imaginary story Superman Red and Superman Blue. Okay, it's from
1:14:44
the sixties and seventies apparently. Oh really, yeah, so maybe it was
1:14:46
like a redo the oh, but they just again Yeah, honestly, I'm
1:14:51
gonna give you the point for sure. All that matters is the name was
1:14:55
right, ye, yeah, yeah, it's Superman Superman I had, I
1:14:58
had red and Blue. Yeah, that's good enough for me. When it
1:15:03
was an electric Superman, yeah yeah, when he had that and then he
1:15:08
split himself into then but yeah, yeah electric and then the design has been
1:15:13
rebooted recently too, right. Yeah, John Kent is going to have a
1:15:15
version of that coming up. I know, I know kind of what I'm
1:15:20
talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. I don't
1:15:25
think anyone listening is thinking otherwise. Jason. Jason's really the weakest link in
1:15:31
this episode. John. So I'm sitting here, like right, John,
1:15:36
like that's gonna be right right, forty year old Superman fan, It's okay.
1:15:44
Another one for the overpens, a universe where Superman wasn't found by the
1:15:49
Kents but the Amish. He had to overcome being taught pacifism and to turn
1:15:55
the other cheeks so he could be an effective hero Amish Superman. How bizarre.
1:16:00
This is not what it's called, but I'm gonna just call it rum
1:16:02
Springer. But with with the s is this Superman? They missed an opportunity
1:16:11
if that's not what it's Yeah, yeah, yeah, this was Justice League
1:16:15
the Nail godhwa, it's just this League the Nail. Did he have the
1:16:21
beer? Yeah, he didn't show up until the very end, but with
1:16:26
the beer, oh yeah, oh yeah yeah he was. And somebody blasts
1:16:30
him with with heat vision and then all of a sudden he's like Superman there
1:16:32
but without a suit on. Did say? I don't think so we did.
1:16:38
He got like blasted with a laser beam and I thought that he was
1:16:42
going to move back like three or four feet, but his beard was going
1:16:44
to remain stationary. Okay, this this got one more for each of you.
1:16:51
This is no longer the world of comics. These are versions of Superman
1:16:56
or properties from outside of the comics. Beer in a moment like that one
1:17:00
time in that one movie, Well maybe let's find out Okay, almost called
1:17:06
it was, Oh, so this is for the Otisville Kryptonians. A uniformally
1:17:14
boring version of a Superman story, as opposed to before when it was a
1:17:17
fractured, disjointed, boring story. Apparently the creator wanted Superman to have a
1:17:23
realistic arc and develop as a character and not be a quote one dimensional boy
1:17:29
scout. Ah god, a one dimensional boy scout. It almost makes me
1:17:35
think, yeah, this screams Zack Snyder. It screams Zack Snyder. It
1:17:42
also but the which one could right, right, right right, Well,
1:17:45
there's a Man of Steel as a solo film. Could you read the comment
1:17:48
one more time? Please? Yes, A uniformally boring version of a Superman
1:17:53
story, as opposed to before when it was a fractured, disjointed, boring
1:17:57
story. The creator wanted Superman to have a realistic arm can develop as a
1:18:00
character and not be a quote one dimensional boy scat. Yeah that does scream
1:18:04
Man of Steel. The more I'd like listen to that comment, I was
1:18:08
gonna say Curveball. Is it something like small Ville just because we mentioned it
1:18:13
before two? But that's pretty disjointed, um and all over the place.
1:18:17
As I'm trying to figure out the clue I'm seeing here is he says as
1:18:20
before, Right, it's got to either be something that's that's remaking or retouching
1:18:28
on something. Oh, is it fucking Superman Returns? Because that's super boring.
1:18:32
It is un it's so boring, boring, like it's it's but it's
1:18:35
a good But the thing is it's a callback to Superman one, which I
1:18:40
don't think i'd call disjointed. No, but comments like they might be referencing
1:18:45
that universe, which is certainly disjointed, right, Like we gotta jump yeah,
1:18:47
I guess by the time you get to four. Yeah, after yeah,
1:18:50
I think I think we jump on that? Is that shit is so
1:18:55
boring? I liked Superman Returns. I left that Poles as well. We're
1:19:03
disjointed. Yeah. Can I pull the trigger please? Or do you want
1:19:10
to pull the trigger on Man of Steel? Because I also kind of agree
1:19:12
with Man of Steel? I mean I think it can yeah, not to
1:19:15
throw another you pull the trigger, You pull the trigger, so I don't
1:19:18
feel bad. Somebody shoot me, for God's say, the eyeball is a
1:19:23
clue because for the uh the other uh I mean, because there's also like
1:19:28
the Snyder cut, which Superman doesn't really have much of an arc in it,
1:19:31
but it is like a redo of something that was I'm gonna rule out.
1:19:35
As captain, I don't rule out the Snyder cut. I don't think
1:19:38
that's just because vot Man of Steel. But you did just do that.
1:19:46
But dyah you, But since since you're my captain, I'm gonna have to
1:19:49
defer. No, no, no, no. I just wanted to rule
1:19:53
out Snyder cut because I strongly don't feel like it's Snyder cut based on the
1:19:57
comment. But let's go with Man of Steel. Please with Man of Steel.
1:20:00
Yeah, and you strongly don't feel like it's the Snyder cut. It
1:20:05
is Zack Snyder's Justice League is, and it's actually official. This one's official
1:20:11
reviews of it from top critics. God the fuck is Superman's arc in either
1:20:15
of those? Right? Well, that that's exactly the point is that Zack
1:20:18
Snyder thinks there is one God, Jesus Christ. That's how that original Justice
1:20:24
League was for Action as Hell, I thought you guys were on something with
1:20:28
with Superman Returns. You had me sold yeah yeah, yeah, yeah we
1:20:31
got closer. Yeah you had me sold with Man of Steel as well.
1:20:35
Yeah yeah, I had the answer in front of you. Yeah yeah yeah
1:20:38
yeah. I don't feel bad about that. I just feel bad that I
1:20:40
got it wrong. Remember, remember, so sorry. None of this matters.
1:20:45
Literally, none of this matters. Yeah. It's not like love and
1:20:48
friendship and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, it's a man in pens.
1:20:51
Speaking of pens, the overpens here is your final one. What piece
1:20:57
of Superman media is being described here? Although he's secretly performed heroic feats as
1:21:01
a moody teenager and young man before moving to Metropolis. He meets Lois at
1:21:05
a younger age and maintains a complicated friendship with Lex Luthor into young adulthood.
1:21:12
Oh shit, it's going to be Smallville, right, clearly it's Lois and
1:21:15
Clark. Agree with my captain. I think it's probably going to be small
1:21:21
Ville. Yeah, it's definitely small It is small Ville. This is what
1:21:24
Smallville appears in the quiz. It's there for you Smallville fans. Somebody saved
1:21:29
me, isn't Lana laying in that one too. Interest Okay, yeah,
1:21:33
the first several seasons, big time, big time. Oh did you watch
1:21:38
Smallville? Of course I watched Smallville. You are slightly older than me.
1:21:42
Yeah. It was just as a child when I had no control over what
1:21:45
was on TV. Yeah, that was the Superman film that was on of
1:21:47
course, of course Young Series. So yep, okay, I'm feeling Jason's
1:21:54
rage. That's the three. I'm going to need some help calculating the scores.
1:21:59
So just this League assemble. Nice. Apparently that Verbus property of the
1:22:03
Walt Disney Company, so I'll try that again. Justice League gather in the
1:22:06
same area for the same purpose. Not as catchy, not have a catch
1:22:13
phrase? Do they do? They have a catch phrase? Teen Titans do?
1:22:15
I checked it? Teen Titans go? Yeah, yeah yeah, that's
1:22:18
literally yeah, yeah, they don't need a catch phrase, Justice League.
1:22:25
Okay, here are those scores. The Otisville Kryptonians are on fifteen points,
1:22:30
but the Overpants are still in the lead with twenty points, big lead,
1:22:34
and it's the quick fire rounds, so anything could still happen. Anything could
1:22:38
happen if if John is bad at pop culture, we could have this,
1:22:43
you know, Ben, Yeah, anything could happen, yeah if. But
1:22:50
before we get to the final round, let's talk prizes. This episode,
1:22:55
Star Prize is the concept of justice. Justice belongs to those who are will
1:23:00
to uphold it, even when they're not affected by the powerful and unjust.
1:23:04
So there you go. You'll get to go home with a bit of justice
1:23:06
in your pocket. Just that, Yeah, just this. Oh but I'll
1:23:15
let the police know that next time they pull me over. Yeah, play
1:23:20
them that audio clip that. Yeah, I'll calm them down. It was
1:23:25
a men's a white man. It will calm them down. That's worked so
1:23:30
far. I mean, if you ever get pulled over. But a winning
1:23:38
team will also receive a gem mint copy of Action Comics number one rated PSA
1:23:45
ten and oh my god, it's just gone in the shred right you.
1:23:50
I shouldn't have left out there. I'll get you for this bank scene.
1:23:56
Up next is our quick fire round, where it's all to play for.
1:24:00
But first we've got to play one last set of ads. You know what,
1:24:03
I'd skip forward and not listen to them, but that's just me.
1:24:05
You do you boos you? After this, our final quick fire around is
1:24:17
called et Elements Test in this game, I'll reveal the name of an alien
1:24:24
from pop culture history. It's up to you too, then name the mineral.
1:24:28
They'd be vulnerable too if they followed the Superman rule of being weak to
1:24:32
a mineral named after the planet they're from. So, for example, if
1:24:38
I said, look up in the sky, is it a member of staffleet?
1:24:43
Is it a science officer? Yes, it's mister Spark, you would
1:24:46
say Vulcan night, Vulcan nights exactly that on the end of the planets.
1:24:55
That's the trickier, Okay. I was going in totally a different direction with
1:24:58
that. Gona dilithium, a mineral from the Star Trek universe. I like
1:25:06
it. That's just the whole of the game for another episode. So they're
1:25:11
not real minerals. It's just yeah, it's the it's the planets that you're
1:25:15
looking for that the alien is from, and then adding it to the end
1:25:18
of that, And you can interrupt me at any time during the clue.
1:25:21
It will all be in the style of look up in the air, and
1:25:25
then I'll reveal more things and then the name at the end. You can
1:25:29
buzz in at any time by saying your team name. Let's practice that now.
1:25:32
Over pants, over pants? Otis Phil? I was trying to read
1:25:39
Matt's hand, right, Kryptonian, I'll go yeah, yeah, I'd take
1:25:45
otis Phil or Kryptonian. Either of those is good. Yeah me, okay,
1:25:47
we'll start the timer. Now. Look up in the sky. Is
1:25:51
it a time traveler? Is he in a police box over pants? Yes,
1:25:57
oldra Oh shit, I have no clue what planet he's from. I
1:26:02
do, but I couldn't remember the name of my team. So you named
1:26:11
us soldier Gallifrayite is yeah, I've t happened. No, you called top
1:26:23
out now after one question. Look up in the sky? Is it an
1:26:27
annoying prequel star? Is it culturally insensitive? Yes, it's jaw Jaw Banks
1:26:33
over Pryptonite? Oh yeah, I'm Kryptonian. Yeah yeah, it's gonna be
1:26:38
John with the overpants. Is it Nabu White? It is Nubu Whites totally
1:26:45
from. Look up in the sky. Is it protecting Spice? Is it
1:26:48
a fan? Yep, that's gonna be John again. Holy shit? Why
1:26:54
am I spacing out? Oh my goodness, it is the quick fire round
1:26:57
Kryptonian. I'll just put that in there. Just I'm gonna I'm gonna throw
1:27:01
it. It is arakasite noise. I was gonna say do night. Yeah,
1:27:11
the word dune cup in my head when I said overpants colloquially. Yeahs
1:27:17
an argument we made, but we got the correct answer. That's fine.
1:27:20
Look up in the sky. Is it a truck? Is it an autobot
1:27:25
Kryptonian? Yes, Jason cybertron night, it is Cybertronight. You mess with
1:27:32
me on this. We're never doing a Transformer episode. Rise of the Beast
1:27:41
comes up this summer. Never not happening ever. Look up in the sky.
1:27:47
Is it a civil servant? Is it reading poetry? Yes, it's
1:27:51
prosthetic. Vogue on jelts that. Yeah, it's gonna be John with overpants.
1:27:58
Vogue Night. I'm not quite not the name of the planet. Actually,
1:28:03
Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw it over if if Ben thinks he
1:28:08
might be bad bad. So it's not Vogon. I thought they were from
1:28:13
Vogan. It's not Vogon. They are Vogons. They are the Vogons.
1:28:17
Oh this is that's that's saddening. I'm embarrassed. Hey, you're the big,
1:28:23
big Hitchhikers fan. So it's I don't feel so bad. For a
1:28:30
second, it's not Vokesphia is the name of that planet? Right? Was
1:28:39
what I was looking for. I know I'm being pedantic, but it is
1:28:41
the quick fire arms. Okay, you're British. Where's my mercy? Do
1:28:45
you all show you the same mercy the Vogon showed Earth. Look up in
1:28:53
the sky. Is it the anthropomorphic embodiment of entropy? Is it on the
1:28:58
back of a giant space turtle? Yes, it's death Kryptonians. Yes,
1:29:03
ben Oh doesn't have cheeze um ring World eight. It's it's not it's not.
1:29:14
I'm so sorry. Are you looking Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Well
1:29:20
I'm not gonna. I already gave it wrong, so I'm not gonna says
1:29:25
grace and kindness token thing that she put out for John doesn't fucking know it's
1:29:30
you know what? You know what? Fine, well, because that will
1:29:32
balance it out, right, Yeah, I was gonna. I was going
1:29:35
to try to institute it for the last oh, the oh, the Hitchhiker's
1:29:41
one. Yeah, I'm gonna give you it's Discworld eyed. And then everyone
1:29:55
was like, no, don't give it. No, No, that's what
1:29:57
I'm saying. This is part of the mercy because you've given it to them
1:30:01
is a part of an entirely different franchise. Now I'm gonna pull a Jason
1:30:04
here, like, nah, that's yeah, that's the wrong answer. When
1:30:11
I when I thought like, maybe it was the name of the turtle instead,
1:30:15
then then I was gonna be like, all right, which I can't
1:30:17
remember it all right now, but like if that was the case, be
1:30:19
like, all right, yeah, that's close enough. But no, it's
1:30:21
definitely Discorreld. That's that's that's that's the wrong circular thing. I'm gonna go,
1:30:26
Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go Superman here and do the right thing.
1:30:30
Okay, very nice, very nice, very the matic. I'll move
1:30:32
on with the next question as I'm more confused about the skulls than ever to
1:30:36
look up in the sky. Is it a puppet? Is it a sitcom?
1:30:41
Sta? Yes, Crytonians, Oh yes, Ben mel mackheite, it
1:30:47
is mel Mackeite. Good Alf knowledge, Oh oh, we just watched the
1:30:54
first I was like, the Muppets live on Earth and we are of the
1:30:58
right age to no Alf. Yeah you guys, yeah, yeah, you
1:31:01
guys are probably a little young for Elf. I'm aware of him. In
1:31:04
pog form. Yeah, oh yeah, Look up in the sky. Is
1:31:11
it a secondary animated cartoon character. Is it Futurama's favorite invader? Yes,
1:31:16
it's Lure oh Cryptotian. Yes, yep, it's let's go with Jason open
1:31:26
you take it. I mean it's Omicron perci a tight exactly spots on that
1:31:31
brings me joy. Look up in the sky. Is it a boy with
1:31:36
high Mida Clareans. Is it a sith Lord? Yes, it's Darth Vader
1:31:42
Kryptonian. I think that's gonna be overpans with John. Oh, Tattoin eight,
1:31:47
it is Tattoin nice. Look up in the sky. Is it a
1:31:51
victim of space colonialism? Is it blue? Because that's what James Cameron wishes
1:31:56
all women were Kryptonian? That's Joe on again. Yeah, it's uh oh
1:32:03
shit, yeah, yeah, oh my goodness. Yeah five, you weren't
1:32:11
on the guitar? Yeah no, I completely lost it. Gosh, throw
1:32:17
it on over pandorite It is pandor I mean it could be unobtainium. Yeah,
1:32:27
John slamming is uh head into his hand, as I've been doing all
1:32:30
episode long. So this is poetic for me. Luck Up in the Sky
1:32:41
is this a living planet? Is it a deadbeat sauce steel father? But
1:32:45
Kryptoniantian? Yeah, it's all Yeah, that's on you. Yeah, Ego
1:32:49
the living planet? I yeah, I'll take it. Yeah, the full
1:32:54
name. To cover my bases, I could said ego, yeah I know
1:32:58
that, but yeah yeah, no can he's the living planet? I egoite
1:33:01
what Ego White would have would have if he called you wrong for that?
1:33:05
I would have that would have been a mercy one. Okay quick before the
1:33:12
buzz up? Look up in the sky? Is it a bird? Yes?
1:33:16
Ben, Kryptonite. I'm so sorry. I was pretty hoping someone to
1:33:24
fall into that track. Yes, I'll finish the line for the other table.
1:33:29
I want to I want to give I want to give respects to Ben
1:33:30
though. Oh yes he jumped the gun definitely just try to catch you on
1:33:33
it method. Yeah, I forgot. This was season three and now you're
1:33:39
changing the format up. Oh, we're changing all the rules used to the
1:33:43
rule Now is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's
1:33:46
lowest lane, so over Pence, this it is just earth, it is.
1:34:00
What's the buzz Oh it was going to be a trick question. Yeah
1:34:03
it was. Actually there's a comic, whereas from Krypton and he's like Superman's
1:34:10
cousin, and so they're really fucking each other and that's gross. Okay,
1:34:13
but like's face Alabama, that was so close that that actually got pretty.
1:34:23
But before we get to the final scores, i'd like to thank our players.
1:34:27
You've all been am I going to say it. It's the obvious thing
1:34:30
to say, but in it being so obvious, I don't want to say
1:34:33
it. Fine, here it goes. You've all been super Man, Ben
1:34:44
John, your podcast Exploration returns this month. Yes, yeah, I've actually
1:34:50
should have been editing it tonight, but yeah, it'll be on the next
1:34:53
couple of days. So sorry motant to. I was all was gonna edit
1:34:58
it last night but got waylaid. So yeah, it's coming. We'll have
1:35:00
a new episode out this week and fantastic we'll be doing it. Won't be
1:35:04
quite as much as we did before, Like we're gonna scale it back to
1:35:08
like one mate one big episode a month instead of two, because life.
1:35:13
But yeah, we're coming back. We'll be here, beautiful. We'll put
1:35:15
a link to that return episode in this episode, So once you've done listening
1:35:20
to this, go check out Exploration and Space Audity is still available to buy,
1:35:26
still available to check out. Yep, yeah, issues number one and
1:35:29
two are I mean, let's see or can they get it on the website
1:35:33
right now or do they just have to email us if they physically? Yeah?
1:35:36
No, I've still been dragging ass. I've not set up like a
1:35:40
online proper store yet, but you can get it online at Comicsology or at
1:35:47
Drive through Comics. Yeah, and we've got issues one and two available for
1:35:54
those who haven't heard. It's a it's a sci fi adventure comedy for the
1:36:00
likes of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, which we don't know anything about and
1:36:06
Perfect Perfects. Yeah, those links in the description as well. Do you
1:36:11
check them out? If you've enjoyed John and Ben on this episode, you
1:36:14
will absolutely enjoy both of those issues. Check out Space Oddities. Jason,
1:36:18
you are painting some minis. Where can we see those? Yes, you
1:36:20
can find them on my Instagram page. Adds zen Flow Painting. And a
1:36:24
huge thank you to Ash and Adam would for their continued support at the highest
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1:36:32
get to decide the future of this Gate Leapers franchise. But I've just got
1:36:36
a note here from Adam that says more gate Leapers, so that. Okay,
1:36:42
let's get to the scores. It really got tight. There was like
1:36:45
one or two points in it at one point during that and it was very
1:36:48
exciting and it really came down to the last two questions. It was quite
1:36:53
the comebacks. But you can tell from the way I've worded my sentence.
1:36:57
Yeah, your winners today are the overpens. What a fantastic It's phil Kryptonians
1:37:06
finish on twenty two even Okay, oh, it's Berg is the correct thing.
1:37:10
But that's what we have that we came into that episode with that knowing
1:37:14
that, and uh, it really reflected our performance to two points. Also,
1:37:21
like strong up the gate, John just fucking saving those villains man.
1:37:27
Yeah, that was great knowledge, great great knowledge. I was really hoping
1:37:30
I could best him in some Superman quiz game here, just to rub that
1:37:33
in his face for the rest of our friendship. Yeah, like when I
1:37:36
beat my fiance friends seen it? Oh wow, she hated me for a
1:37:41
while. Oh we gotta we gotta do a friends episode. Oh yeah,
1:37:46
Okay, that's that's something clearly that comes before the Transformers, oh way before
1:37:51
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1:38:32
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1:38:38
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