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Bravo Fan Fest Fallout, Cheating Podcast Couple and why Paris Hilton Ghosted Kim’s book · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: It's me, Heather McDonald.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, I had the
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  Speaker 2: greatest weekend. I was out in La Quinta with my girlfriends,
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  Speaker 2: my sister, celebrating the debut of my new Juicy Scoop song,
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  Speaker 2: which you guys, I don't think there's been like any criticism.
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  Speaker 2: It's been crazy. Thank you for loving the song. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the comments under one of the posts that
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  Speaker 2: I did was like, I know Heather was joking that
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  Speaker 2: she wanted a Real Housewives song, but this is so
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  Speaker 2: much better. It's so catchy. And so I was going
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  Speaker 2: to dinner at one of my favorite places in the desert,
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  Speaker 2: The Nest. And I said to the owner, I go,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I have this song out. Just wanted you
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  Speaker 2: to know. And she's like, stay till 11, which is
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  Speaker 2: kind of late for me. Stay till 11 and I
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  Speaker 2: have a special surprise for you. Well, her son, one
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  Speaker 2: of her sons, is an accomplished musician, and he plays
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  Speaker 2: the saxophone. And we played the song, like, in the
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  Speaker 2: DJ booth, and I got to take the mic and
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  Speaker 2: sing some of the lines, and he did, like, a
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  Speaker 2: saxophone version of it that is so good. Yeah! Making
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  Speaker 2: my honey cry. One, two, three, four.
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  Speaker 1: You can't resist.
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  Speaker 2: You can't resist. You can't resist.
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  Speaker 4: You can't resist.
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  Speaker 2: So it's been pretty amazing. I really have had so
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  Speaker 2: much fun. And I want to just thank everyone for
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  Speaker 2: letting me know that they love it. And when you
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  Speaker 2: come to a live show, you will also get this experience, okay?
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  Speaker 2: I will be singing this song live as well as
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  Speaker 2: doing an hour or more of hilarious stand-up. And so
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  Speaker 2: will Chris be doing stand-up. November 14th in San Diego.
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  Speaker 2: to have some fun stuff. And of course, I keep
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  Speaker 2: shows only. So go there. And then the next date
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  Speaker 2: is until after the holidays. And that is in Aspen,
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  Speaker 2: January 30th. at the Wheeler Opera House. So get that going. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so there was, besides me singing in La Quinta, there
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  Speaker 2: was some other news that was happening in the world
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  Speaker 2: of pop culture talking Bravo. And they do like a
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  Speaker 2: fan fest, like a one day thing. I think they
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  Speaker 2: did it in Miami. Every other year that they don't
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  Speaker 2: do BravoCon in Vegas, they've kind of been doing this.
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  Speaker 2: So this year it was in Charleston and it was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, great. They didn't just have like the Southern
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  Speaker 2: charm people. They had a variety of housewives, not all
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  Speaker 2: of them, but some of the Orange County. And I
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  Speaker 2: saw Carol Radziwill there and there was some juice. There
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  Speaker 2: was some snark that came out of it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's really what it is. It's like, let's separate the girls.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get a variety of the girls there. I saw
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  Speaker 2: a little clip with Melissa Borga and they're like, who
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  Speaker 2: are you happy? That's not coming back to New Jersey.
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  Speaker 2: And she very quickly said Jennifer Aiden, which is interesting
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  Speaker 2: because she is made up with her sister, Teresa, which
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  Speaker 2: everybody is happy to do because it was a way
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  Speaker 2: for them to stay on the show, make nice for themselves,
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  Speaker 2: mental health wise, their kids, all of it. And they've
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  Speaker 2: been doing all these interviews together and they are coming
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  Speaker 2: off very believable that they are close. They, really have like,
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  Speaker 2: they have like the same hair, the same hair color
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  Speaker 2: that I don't know if it's on purpose, but, or
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  Speaker 2: they just show up to these things and they're both
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  Speaker 2: be wearing like a black halter dress or whatever. But
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  Speaker 2: she said that about Jennifer Aiden, who's no longer on
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  Speaker 2: the show. But then my next video that came up
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  Speaker 2: was Jennifer Aiden saying, Hey everybody, I'm doing a live
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  Speaker 2: event with Teresa, my best friend to promote her third memoir. Um, so, um,
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  Speaker 2: Who knows? But there's just those little things like that.
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  Speaker 2: So then there was a panel with Andy and I think, again,
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  Speaker 2: a variety of housewives from different franchises. And someone in
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  Speaker 2: the audience asked about Bethany Frankel, you know, to Carol.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, well, I haven't talked to her in
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  Speaker 2: years and that's above my pay grade. That would be
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  Speaker 2: a question for Andy. And Andy's like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what she's up to. I don't I'm
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  Speaker 2: not on TikTok that much. And the audience was like, ooh,
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  Speaker 2: like he was dissing the fact that she's just a
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  Speaker 2: TikToker or whatever. I mean, I just think it was
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  Speaker 2: the first thing that came to his head to just
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  Speaker 2: not bring attention to their situation. And well, she went
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  Speaker 2: off and, you know, this is kind of fun when
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  Speaker 2: stuff like this happens and everyone benefits from it. And
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  Speaker 2: then I have something to talk about, so who cares?
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, Bethany was there and she did her video
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  Speaker 2: real close up to the face. And she's like, so
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  Speaker 2: I guess Andy's talking about me. So I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: take the bait. Okay. And then basically what she said was,
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  Speaker 2: while you're sitting in your same spot, being beholden to
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  Speaker 2: Bravo to sign your checks, I'm over here killing it
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  Speaker 2: on TikTok. And while you're living a stainless steel life,
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  Speaker 2: we're living the golden life over here. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: because she basically was like, you fired us all from Bravo.
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  Speaker 2: And now the golden life girls are killing it over
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  Speaker 2: on E and I'm killing it over on TikTok. I
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  Speaker 2: thought there was a little bit of like, I have said,
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  Speaker 2: you guys, I have said, don't be surprised if she
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  Speaker 2: does join the golden life or some type of show
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  Speaker 2: like that. Because I think doing the solo thing by herself,
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  Speaker 2: doing the TikTok and all that stuff, I think she
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  Speaker 2: would like to put down the phone and be back
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  Speaker 2: on TV, even though people, TV's dead and this and that.
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  Speaker 2: It's still, it's TV. It's still Bravo. It's still different
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  Speaker 2: than being on a, on a app that is great.
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  Speaker 2: And what I love is that so many people have
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  Speaker 2: an opportunity to make money and show their creativity and
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  Speaker 2: show their point of view and all of that. There
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  Speaker 2: isn't a big gatekeeper, but It's different. If everyone can
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  Speaker 2: be on it, it's not as special as not everyone
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  Speaker 2: can be on Bravo, whatever. But also, he shouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: dissing TikTok, but I don't believe he was. I think
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  Speaker 2: he was just saying like, hey, I know that's where
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  Speaker 2: she says all her stuff and gives all her opinions
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  Speaker 2: and eats her chicken salad, and there you go. Now,
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  Speaker 2: why should he be overly nice to her? The woman
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  Speaker 2: tried to get a massive lawsuit going against Bravo. Reality Reckoning,
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  Speaker 2: which was going to be her social movement, you know,
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  Speaker 2: her political social movement to get people rallied in the
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  Speaker 2: streets to have these women that felt like they were
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  Speaker 2: dissed by Bravo or let go or whatever the case
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  Speaker 2: to come together in a massive lawsuit against NBCUniversal and
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  Speaker 2: Bravo and Peacock. And she was at the helm of it.
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  Speaker 2: She was like Sally Field, you know, with the sign union,
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  Speaker 2: like all of it, which was all not bad ideas.
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  Speaker 2: Like that was good. But it wasn't good for Bravo
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  Speaker 2: unless Bravo is like, hey, we want to make this
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  Speaker 2: better for you guys. It's something that they would have
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  Speaker 2: to conform to and they don't want it. And in it,
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  Speaker 2: it was, you know, saying that their things had been
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  Speaker 2: done wrong to these women. They were forced to drink,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's the Liam McSweeney deal lawsuit, which is still
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  Speaker 2: going on. The Nene thing seems to she seems to
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  Speaker 2: have settled or it's gone away or in that settlement.
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  Speaker 2: They're offering her a chance to come back to Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: because her legit TV deals with Ryan Murphy. Those seem
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  Speaker 2: to dry up. And then she was like, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: think I was discriminated against. I think I'm going to sue.
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  Speaker 2: And it went back and forth and then it all
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  Speaker 2: just fizzled away. And in the process, she is not
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  Speaker 2: in a good place with her one-time very good friend,
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  Speaker 2: Andy Cohen. And so she talks about the stainless steel
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  Speaker 2: thing was just her trying to be clever. Like she
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  Speaker 2: took a minute and thought about it and wrote it down.
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  Speaker 2: You know, first, listen, if he was driving a Cybertruck,
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  Speaker 2: then that would be a great joke because I've joked
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  Speaker 2: that my Cybertruck is just like a giant fridge going
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  Speaker 2: down the highway. So if she would have said that
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  Speaker 2: as like a dig of someone who owns a Cybertruck,
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  Speaker 2: then I'd be like, all right, whatever. You probably heard
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  Speaker 2: me make that joke, but who cares? But it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: It was like she was just trying to think of
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  Speaker 2: a thing because of the golden life. And then I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: do you want to be on the golden life? Like,
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  Speaker 2: are you hoping to get a spot on next season?
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, that was about it. And I'm sure he
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  Speaker 2: won't even respond back. So that's it with Bethany. And
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  Speaker 2: she is doing fine in life. She lets us know
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  Speaker 2: about it. She tells everybody how much she makes. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know why you would do that. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of tacky, but she says she makes like 20
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  Speaker 2: million a year on TikTok and with brand deals and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that. And if she does, then great, then great.
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  Speaker 2: Then why would you even have to respond to it?
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  Speaker 2: But I think she's butthurt and she likes to respond.
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  Speaker 2: And she loved that her Google alert went off when
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  Speaker 2: she was mentioned on the panel. So, you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking like, now I'm almost thinking at these
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  Speaker 2: types of shows, because this does give you some press
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  Speaker 2: when you need it. Listen, you know what I would
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  Speaker 2: do if I was Bethany? Because I think she needs it.
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  Speaker 2: I would make sure that someone at every one of
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  Speaker 2: these events, like BravoCon or like a big podcast or
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  Speaker 2: something where a lot of these housewives are there, like
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  Speaker 2: a live show, I would plant a couple of people
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  Speaker 2: in there to ask the question about myself, Bethany. And
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  Speaker 2: then I would be able to go, oh, really? You're
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  Speaker 2: going to come with this bee? You better not miss.
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  Speaker 2: And act all pissed when, in fact, she could have
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  Speaker 2: just planted someone there. That would be, okay, you're welcome.
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  Speaker 2: You're welcome, Bethany. That'll happen at BravoCon, I'm sure. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: They also announced some shows, new shows that were coming.
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  Speaker 2: And one is Small Town Trouble, Texas. And it's like
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  Speaker 2: Secret Lives of Hunting Wives. They're young women who all
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  Speaker 2: have a husband at this point. We know that'll, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if this is a success, half or more will be divorced.
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  Speaker 2: But there's also some like underlying like lesbian stuff, like
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  Speaker 2: Secret Lives of Hunting Wives. That scripted show is coming
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  Speaker 2: back and the girls are still going down on each
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  Speaker 2: other and hunting. So this is sort of like that.
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  Speaker 2: And Some people are not happy about it because there's
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  Speaker 2: one girl, I am not aware of this person, but
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  Speaker 2: she was on Big Brother and she was called out
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  Speaker 2: for saying like horrible, multiple racist things to multiple cast members.
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  Speaker 2: And there's even a video of it going around of
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  Speaker 2: Julie Chen Moonves asking her about these things. So people
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  Speaker 2: didn't forget, but Maybe that's what they want. They're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: let's bring a canceled racist girl out into this Texas
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  Speaker 2: world just to solidify this is what life is like
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  Speaker 2: in Texas. I don't know. But maybe it'll be fun
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  Speaker 2: for everybody. But some people were like, I can't believe
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  Speaker 2: that you won't bring back Miami because it is a
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  Speaker 2: Latina cast. It has other women from other countries on
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  Speaker 2: that cast. It's very ethnically diverse cast. And it's beautiful
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  Speaker 2: to look at. And I thought it was a very
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  Speaker 2: entertaining show. So they're like, wow. Well, I'm guessing that
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  Speaker 2: show's a lot more expensive than going over to these
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  Speaker 2: girls and finding this one girl that hasn't worked since
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  Speaker 2: she was on Big Brother and be like, hey, I
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  Speaker 2: heard you're like a little bi or whatever. Want to
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  Speaker 2: be on this Bravo show?
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is how these things work. So that
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  Speaker 2: was one of the new shows. The other new show
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  Speaker 2: that was happening is a Next Gen– New York is
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  Speaker 2: Next Gen Atlanta. And allegedly, this is from Realty Recap,
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  Speaker 2: allegedly Brielle Berman, who is Kim Zolzak Berman's daughter, was
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be on that show. Her younger sister, Ariana,
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  Speaker 2: is on the New York one. And everyone loves that girl.
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  Speaker 2: And nobody cares that her brother is KJ is 15,
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  Speaker 2: facing the horrible essay accusations and has been arrested and everything.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's like, don't touch her. We love her. So I
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  Speaker 2: think this would be weird that they, maybe not to
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  Speaker 2: have her come on, except if the things that they
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  Speaker 2: filmed and things led to this KJ problem and they
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  Speaker 2: just don't want the audience to even go there with
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  Speaker 2: their mind. And so therefore- Let's not have her in it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's not show her scenes. Let's cut her out of it,
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  Speaker 2: which I'm sure they have probably something in the contract
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  Speaker 2: that they can do that and it won't happen. Let's
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  Speaker 2: let you get through this with your family and your
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  Speaker 2: brother and then you can come back. But no, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: So my question is, was she ever part of it?
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  Speaker 2: Because it sounds like she's not part of it now,
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• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Southern Hospitality is... which is a show I've met a
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: bunch of the girls at BravoCon that worked on that
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: show that were really quite lovely. I've never really watched it.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I've never really covered it. But Leva, who
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: was kind of the Lisa Vanderpump of Southern Charm, had
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: her own restaurant and made this show. And she was
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: supposed to be at the Fan Fest and then they
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: canceled her. And now they said the show is coming
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: back for its fifth season, but she won't be part
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: of it. And she's like, I'm moving on to another chapter.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: That's kind of interesting. If it's her restaurant, everything, maybe
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: she doesn't have to be a part of it. Maybe
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: she's like, film at my restaurant or, you know, Southern
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Hospitality doesn't have to be my restaurant. Nobody works there anymore.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: We're just going to follow the kids like Vanderpump. And
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: they're probably like, oh, my God, I wish we would
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: have thought about this 10 years ago. Maybe could we
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: have ever, you know, cut Lisa out? And Lisa was
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: probably way too savvy and made sure that that's never
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the case. But this is really interesting that it was
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: her restaurant and everything. So I'm guessing she did a
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: deal in which she really had no ownership of that show,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: just that they filmed there and she was a part
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: of it. And now they're like, goodbye to you, Leva.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: And I don't watch it, but it doesn't seem like
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: anyone's sad to see her go. So now Real Housewives
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: of OC, it was just, I don't know, they're in Japan.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: And it was like, they all had to dress up
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: like those little like cartoon, like little girls that have
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: like little toys on themselves and like pigtails and bright
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: colored makeup and foofy skirts and big heels. I forgot what,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: what do they, what do they call those girls? Anime girls,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: like an anime girl. So that's what you want to
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: do when you're, you know, over 60 and are awaiting
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: a knee replacement. I mean, are you fucking kidding me?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: So You know what I would like to see? I
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: would just like to see more housewives like Lisa Barlow
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: that are like, you know what? No, I'm not doing
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the drag makeup. I'm not. I have a beautiful makeup
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: artist who will do my makeup the way I like it.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing anything I don't like. I like that.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, no, this isn't flattering. I don't want
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: to dress up like... They also made this cast dress
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: up like showgirls, too. Again, two of them are over 60.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: One is almost there. And just no, no on any
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: of it. It's dangerous. It's not good to be in
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: stacked high heels. Anyway, so they had to do that.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: And then they went shopping and nothing has happened in
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the show. So then they were like, I'm really concerned
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: that Gina is acting like she's this rich girl now
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: and she's spending all this money. She's in Japan and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: they just edited her like being excited that like a
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: designer handbag was less there than it is here. And
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: was thinking, oh, maybe I'll get a few things. And
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: then they had to have like a financial intervention with her.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: And listen, you know, some, you can like her or not,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: but the girl has led a pretty admirable life for
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: being a reality star. You know, she started out in
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: a bad marriage. It got worse. She had a DV
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: thing happen. She managed to get out of that, but
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: still maintain a good co-parenting person. relationship with this guy
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: and his new girlfriend. She then got a DUI, has
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: been sober for years, more importantly, fixed her horrible hair
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: extensions and got a real estate license. And then been
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: with this guy who also has a contentious divorce with
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: somebody and has stayed pretty classy about it and managed
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: to co-parent six kids with these people. And I'm just like,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You don't, you don't have like find
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: something wrong with her. I just think the show is just,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: they're just, nothing's happening. So there's a rumor that they're
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: going to do what they did with New Jersey to OC.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: They're going to keep just like Heather. This is the rumor.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: They're going to keep Heather and Tamara and Vicki will
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: be gone and Shannon will be a friend and Gina
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: will stay. Casita Gina, they called her because at one time, She,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: in her divorce, was staying at her personal trainer's casita, okay?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: And some people were like, that's not a housewife! Like, whatever,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: you know? Not everyone can be rich and have a
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: husband who's 78 and is cheating on them. Like, not
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: everybody has that scenario, okay? So then, who else? And then, oh,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Emily would be gone, allegedly. And Andy was on his
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: radio show, and he kind of was like, huh. Somebody
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: called and asked about it. He's like, you know what?
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: We're always looking to change things up. Oh, I don't know.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I think that sounds like, I think that's
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: what they're going to go to these older franchises that
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: are not bangers. Like to me, Beverly Hills is always
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: a banger. People want to watch that show because it's
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Beverly Hills, because the women are dynamic, because half of
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: them are actresses. It just is good. With the other
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: shows that will struggle, like New Jersey or OC, I
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: think they are like, look, we'll keep three or four
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: of the OGs as anchors. And then we're going to
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: bring in like four new people, pay them very little,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: have them be like under 40. And then they can
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: stay on the show for 20 years and go get
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: divorced and get remarried and talk about having a baby
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that they have no intention of having a baby with.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: and then go to a stripper class, and then take
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: aerial stripping classes, and then go on a trip that
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: nobody wants to go on, and then have a costume party,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and then talk about their kid coming out. Like, that's
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: what we want. That's what we're going to get, and
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: we're just going to get new people to tell the story. Okay. Well,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: you guys, you know, I've seen so many clips now
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: from old TLC episodes of Kate Plus 8. And it's
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: interesting to see it. It really is sad because people
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: will take his book. That's the number one bestseller right now, Colin.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: And he is one of the eight children, one of
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the six tuplets, six of the six tuplets that Kate
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: and John Gosling had together while their lives were filmed.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Very documentary style. The cameras were always there. Some things
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: were like planned out. We're going to go to an
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: escape room. We're going to do this. But the cameras
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: are around all the time. And people are going through
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: and catching moments where she is so cruel to Colin
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: and like isolating him from the other kids. And I
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: can't even watch some of the scenes. It's like so mean.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: There was an issue with gum. Somebody brought and all
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: the little kids got gum. And there was a little
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: bit of gum because he was chewing gum on his
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: like little weird teddy bear that he liked, Colin. And
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: she's getting all mad that she has to get the
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: gum out. And she's like, yeah, I'm throwing it away.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I'm throwing away your teddy bear. And even some of
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the other kids are like, mom, no, that's Colin's favorite toy.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: And he sleeps with it every night. It's like, no,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: you need to learn. And it just, oh my God,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: it's not, it's just, there's so many things like that.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: And like, he was so excited for his Christmas gift
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: and he got this Lego thing that was a Ferrari.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: And then in the book, he's like, after everyone opened
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: their presents and all the wrapping paper was thrown away,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: she's like, I'm taking your gifts, Colin. into my room
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: and we'll see how well you behave and if you
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: ever get them. And he never saw them. Then when
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: he went to, then she put him in an institution,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: he says she visited him like once in two years.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: So now she is responding to, um, she's going crazy
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: online and people have grabbed some of the things that
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: she has said. This girl, um, the reality holic, is
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: saying that Kate Gosling is like writing back people in
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: comments because obviously she's getting a lot of hate. If
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: you read this book, if you're here just listening to me,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: you're going to hate Kate Gosling, and most people hated
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: her anyway. But she writes to this person, did your
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: baby ever assault with a weapon you or his sibling
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: or anyone else before, during and after his release? Did
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: he kill animals for fun? No? Okay, fair enough. Maybe
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: then you don't understand.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: So.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: What this girl is bringing up is like, wow, could
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: this be deemed as like defamation that you are basically
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: writing in a comment on Instagram or whatever, accusing Colin
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: at one time, killing animals for fun. And it's absolutely
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: a horrible thing to accuse a child of. But she
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: at this point is probably like, well, he got to
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: write his book and make me out to be like
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the worst abusive mother ever. And I'm going to say
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: what I want to say. And so it's just gotten
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: really weird. But he is, there is going to be
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: a Netflix doc with him and his dad, John, and
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: the other sister, there's older twins, that is no longer
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: part of Kate Gosselin's life. They're doing some documentary. The
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: book is number one. Hopefully he'll come on here and
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: we can really ask more questions. But It's very sad because,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: you know, besides being on the show and getting no
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: compensation for it, you wonder, like, was anyone... watching that
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: as a cameraman or anything and seeing if he was
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: being isolated or, you know, pulled apart from the other
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: group and be chosen like the book, um, a child
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: called it like where they just take one child out
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: of a lot of children and just abuse them. It's
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: a sick psychological thing for the abuser to do. So
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: that's crazy. Also on TLC, remember, they had Josh Duggard,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: who's doing like, I don't know how much time for
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: his crimes against kids. And then there was this other boy,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Jacob Roloff. He was in Big Little World, Little People,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Big World, and where he was in a family of
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: little people, but he was not a little person. And
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: he came out many years later and accused a person
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: on the crew of abusing him. I tried to look
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: it up to see if that person was ever prosecuted
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: or what. But again, like, what is up with this?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: And it's not just TLC because TLC uses different production companies.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: It's really a production company. But the point is you
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: have all these kids running around being filmed. Again, no rules. So, Bethany,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe if she'd gone after helping kids get
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: some type of rights to being filmed without their consent.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: But their parents are the ones that consent for them
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: when it's a non-union gig and it's not SAG-AFTRA, which
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: is all reality shows. They have to work. And then
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: if they don't want to, it's like the parents will
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: be like, well, I guess we, you know, or they
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: don't want to do videos or whatever for social media. Well,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I guess we can kiss this house goodbye. I guess
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: we can't go to Hawaii. I guess you can tell
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: your sister. She can't continue on with her gymnastic classes
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: because you don't want to do an ad that you
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: got your period yesterday. Okay? Really? Really? This is what
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: you get? A little bratty teenager. Speaking of Kate Gosselin,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: there was this, oh my God, I will never forget it.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I remember where it was. It was the Today Show.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: The show was over. Kate Plus Eight was over. And
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: she brought the older twins on the show with her.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I think to spark interest in maybe getting another show
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: or they were promoting like a one-off. And she's like,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: tell them. And the one girl's like, what? And she goes,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: tell them what you told me in the car about blah, blah, blah.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: And she goes, well, now it seems like you just
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: told them. And she's like, wow. The first times the
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: girls are quiet when we're here on the Today Show. Great.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Great job, girls. Like she is so bitchy. It's so uncomfortable.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: And these girls are only like 15 or 16 at
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: the time. And she's thinking they're going to be like
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: the next Kardashians or let's get them back on TV.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: And it's just terrible. So that is all very interesting.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: All right. The next story I have is podcast drama.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: And this is a show I've never watched an entire
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: episode of.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to do my best. But the point is,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: it's fucking juicy. So here we go. There's a show
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: called H3. I don't know why they call it H3,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: but they do. And it was very, very successful. And
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: at one time, it was like Frenemies or something. Trisha Paytas,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: who is a doll, mother of three, and very successful creator.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: She's been on YouTube for like 20 years. She was
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: on it. Now, what's interesting about her is when she
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: was on it with this guy, Ethan, who's like the
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: host of it, he has a wife. And there's a
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: clip going around where she says, are you ever bummed
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: that like, you know, you're married now and you can't
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: like pull in a bunch of girls that you could
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: if you were like this famous but not married? You know,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: he's like, no, I'm very happily married. I'm just saying
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: you'd strike me as the kind of guy that had
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: this fame come and you were single, you'd probably really,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: really enjoy it. So anyway, he's on the show with
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: his wife. And a lot of people that they bring
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: in to work for them are fans of the show.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: And they bring in this other girl. who is a
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: fan of the show, and she starts working on it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: And like these shows that have several people working on it,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: they throw them in for content. They have moments. They
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: do things together as a group. So the wife announced,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I'm leaving my husband. He's been cheating on me for
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: six months. She doesn't say with who, but the fans
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: believe it's this girl that kind of looks like the
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: wife and is like just a younger version of her,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: though the wife isn't old. And they have announced that
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: he's like, I'm going to give her everything was one
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: thing I saw to his wife. And so people are speculating,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: oh my God, is there a baby on the way?
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Why would you be so apt to give everything to
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: your wife? Is it because you don't want to have
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: money for the next chick who might be having your baby?
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Who is this affair? Like, why would you suddenly fold
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: like that? Because you had an affair. The show is
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: off indefinitely. So he's just like taking a big break
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: from it. And then there's the, this other podcast that
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I covered a while ago where there were these three
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: guys called the Try Guys. And one of them was
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: caught also having an affair with a girl that started
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: working on the show. And they got rid of him.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: And this was like a big show with a lot
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: of YouTube followers and stuff. And they got rid of
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: him because it's like, oh my gosh, you know, we
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: just ethically like It's just so uncomfortable that one of
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: the three of us was like cheating on his wife.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: And in that time, Ned was a cheater of that.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: And this guy from the first story, the H3 podcast,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: he took many episodes being highly critical of Ned cheating
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: on his wife. So now Ned is like, huh, guess
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: you don't like it. Guess you don't like it when
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: you're cheating on your wife. And Everyone finds out about
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: it and people are talking about you that you're a
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: piece of shit. I guess you don't enjoy that. So
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: there you go. Listen, I'm sure the fans will follow
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: them or maybe not. That's the thing. You go off
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: the air for a few months. These H3 fans might
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: find some other people and be like, I don't even
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: listen to that show anymore. So when he comes back,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: with the new girlfriend who might've been the person working
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: for him or not, and starts to reestablish some little thing,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: then will that audience still be there? Or, you know,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: maybe they just, maybe they're like, wow, this really took
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: a turn for the worst. It's very interesting because the
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: podcast world, as you know, people get so addicted to
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: listening to their people. And just Howard Stern was the
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: first person that did it with his crew. And Every
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: day you listen to it and then you're like, oh
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: my God, this was going on. This is crazy. And
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: that's basically has happened now to several of these podcasts.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: And an element is the guy starts cheating with some
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: fan that's then working on the show. So that should
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: be a big lesson to everybody. No matter how big
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: or small of a quote unquote creator you are in
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: this space, beware of the fan. that wants to work
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: for you. You know, maybe seek out someone that just
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: knows how to do the job that you need. And
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: maybe they'll become a fan because you're such a great boss.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: But maybe being the fan and then working for you
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: is a little too close for comfort for everybody. This
• 37:15
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• 37:19
  Speaker 2: think teaching your kids to be responsible with money and
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: letting them really realize how much a matcha costs how
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: much a hamburger costs, what they want to spend their
• 37:31
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  Speaker 2: and she's quite the influencer. She's really attractive. She and
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  Speaker 2: her partner, who goes by G, and that person is
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: a woman, but is a non-binary woman. So she uses they,
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  Speaker 2: them pronouns. So Oh my God, this is going to
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: be too hard to do. Anyway, they broke up. They
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: broke up and they were married. Chrishell did marry G
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: and she just did a very heartfelt, very sad confession
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: to her cell phone on Instagram in her absolutely stunning
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: closet stating that they were no longer going to be
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: together and that she never wants to do this again.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Because she was married when we first were introduced to
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: her on Selling Sunset. She was married to an actor
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: in the hit show This Is Us. And they ended
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: up getting divorced. And, you know, she was, you know,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: a realtor. I don't know if she was a realtor before.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: If someone knew through her very popular actor husband, if
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: they knew that the show was coming and they wanted to, like,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: bring in a person that had some Hollywood ties. But
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: she is, I think, for sure a realtor. But she's
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: left the show. She's had issues with the other girls.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: She's left and she's come back. Same with Christine Quinn.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: She's left and now she's back. Then she was dating
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: one of the twins, the tiny twins that run the
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Selling Sunset offices. They were boyfriend and girlfriend, she and Jason,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: which was weird because they worked together for a long time,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: met when she was married, and then they were a couple.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Then they broke up and then she found herself being
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: in a queer relationship and seemed very, very happy. And
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: G is an Australian singer, musician and all of that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: So lots of travel and everything, but it didn't work
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: out and they broke up. But, you know, we'll see
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: who she dates next. Sounds like she might not want
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: to date anyone for a while, but she's, you know.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: dealing with it. People Magazine just did an exclusive interview
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: with Jen Shaw. Jen Shaw from Real Housewives of Salt
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Lake City, who had one of the greatest moments ever
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: for us as viewers, not for herself. The worst moment
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: of her life was caught on tape when the FBI
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: went to the sprinter van outside of Heather Gay's beauty lab,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: in which they were all getting in the sprinter van
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: to go and go on some trip or day trip, whatever.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: And all the cameras there and they're all filming there
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: and the FBI came and they said, where is Jen Shah?
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: And everyone freaked out and they realized that this business
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: that she had bragged about that really turned me off
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: to her character, her person, it's not a character, they're
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: playing themselves, for the first couple of years was the
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: result of being extremely fraudulent and stealing money from vulnerable
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: people in society, mostly the elderly, and convincing them that
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: we can help you have your own online business. We
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: will teach you how to do it. And this is
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: how you make money. And it was this whole big,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: long scam. And then they'd resell this is a good target.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: You can scam again. They would resell it to another company.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: And then that person would be like, hi, we heard
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: you're in credit card debt from trying to start your
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: own online business. We, if you just pay us a
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: little money, we'll help you get out of that. And
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: then they'd scam them. And then that person would take
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: them and they'd scam them again. And it was, she
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: was the ringleader of it, yet she acted like she
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: was a marketing genius calling it a lead generation. Yeah,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: the leads that you're generating were finding vulnerable people and
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: then selling them so other scammers can have them. So, oh,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: by the way, there's a really good new show on
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: that I have to watch called Super Scam Me, where
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: this journalist, it's almost like to catch a predator, but
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: it's like to catch a love bomber. And she like
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: kind of, puts on like a mousy wig and like
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: some glasses and has these guys instantly act like they're
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: super into her, sending her flowers and everything. And then
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: it starts with, okay, I need Bitcoin and then I
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: need something else. And then they get scammed. And I'm like, oh,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: I wish I would have thought of that. I wish
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I would have gone down that route. That would have
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: been a good time for me. But anyway, this scammer,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: she ends up in the prison with Elizabeth Holmes. One drop. Hmm.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Why would you think that I would deceive you? I'm
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: completely telling the truth. I'm totally transparent. You could see everything. Anyway,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: they she is now out. Jen Shaw, her sentence was
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: like cut in half. And supposedly Elizabeth Holmes is getting
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: out and going to a halfway house soon. And the
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: clip that they chose is like I'm guessing the interview
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: wasn't really that interesting. Because I just watched the clip
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: that People magazine shows. And it's Jen Shah, who looks great.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: She looks healthy and, you know, she's an attractive woman,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: saying how she and Lizzie were good friends. So now
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: she calls her Lizzie, which I thought is interesting because
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: we were introduced to her as Elizabeth Holmes. In the movie,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: the documentary, you could see everything. Her partner, husband, he's
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: not her husband, but her husband, Billy Evans, calls her Liz.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: is like, Liz needs to know. And then in the prison,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: she's Lizzie. I don't know. I think that also says something,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: that she's just, obviously she changed her voice and her personality,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: which is completely different when you watch the old clips,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: when she's talking about Theranos versus, you know, in the
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: documentary version. So still so fascinating. But anyway, she said
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: they were on poop duty together. Then she went on
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: to explain what the poop duty was. And it was like, girl,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: this is such a long explanation. Basically, they just have
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: to keep their bathroom clean. And if it doesn't stay clean,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: then they have to clean it. Okay. And it's interesting
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: to bring up Jen Shaw because at the Bravo Fan
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Fest in Charleston this weekend, Heather Gay from Real Housewives
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: of Salt Lake City was there. And someone or somehow
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: was brought up the black guy. This is a story
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: where she woke up in San Diego, Heather Gay with
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: a black eye and insinuated and said that it was
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Jen Shaw. But then she was like, I don't know
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: where I got it. And people thought she was insinuating
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: that maybe someone on the crew could have given it
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: to her or weren't following the safety protocols. I always said,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I think she got fucking wasted. I think she got
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: up in the middle of night to go to the
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: bathroom or do something and like fell and then went
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: back into bed and did not even realize it and
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: woke up with a black eye. That is what I've
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: always thought happened. She wrote about it in her second
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: book and now she's rewriting history again and saying, I
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: don't know if Jen Shaw gave me the black eye
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: or not. We're going to have to talk about it
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: because she's like, we'll do anything for publicity and to
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: keep the show going. And now Will Jen Shaw come
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: back on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City? If they're
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: going to bring back Teresa, if they're going to bring
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: other people that did prison time, except that her crime
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: was really fucking over vulnerable people. It wasn't, I was
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: dumb and my husband told me to sign this piece
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: of paper and I'm still a really good mom. It
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: was different. But again, there's no particular rules that apply
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: for Bravo. It's based on an individual person's basis. So
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: What goes for one person won't go for the other.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: And I think we know that. Okay. Tom Brady is
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: dating Candace Swanepoel. She's some gorgeous, perfect specimen model. And
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know, is it surprising? No. But I mean,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: how old is Tom Brady? Like really? You have to,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, he was dating Alex Earl at And at
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: one time, I thought he was dating Kim Kardashian or
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: was that they were just chatting, I think. It wasn't
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: really serious. But they're dating. And Kim's book, Citizen Kim,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: is coming out. And this guy, Jonathan Van Meter, wrote it.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: And I read a long article that was written about
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: this book coming out in The Hollywood Reporter. And how
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: they got connected was like four years ago, he wrote
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: about her in like Vogue magazine or something. And she
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: immediately reached out to him in the middle of the
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: night and said, I have never had someone understand me
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: so well. Like, thank you for the article. And then
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: he was like, would you do a, it's a authorized autobiography,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: meaning he did work with her. Um, So there are
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: things that, you know, could be cut out or whatever,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: but it's his observation. He's writing the book, but still
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: she had final say. So she still read through every
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: page and said certain like, oh, I don't know if
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I love this or I like this. And one of
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: the things that popped out is that Paris Hilton was
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: supposed to speak with him to gather her thoughts and
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: her stories to create the book of who really is
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian. And he had to go through her publicist
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: or her assistant. And she canceled 17 times and that
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Kim was not happy about that. And, you know, what
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: was that? Did she ever have any intention of speaking
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: about Kim? And, you know, if this truly is your
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: good friend, you should be doing it for your friend
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: so that the book is that much more interesting, that
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: much more juicy. It would have been really interesting to
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: hear Kim's, I mean, to hear Paris kind of talk
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: about how they met, how they became good friends, how
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: they had a falling out. was Paris ever jealous that
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Kim followed her blueprint and took it to another level
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: of success? When did she stop being jealous of it
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: if she was? But maybe Paris decided, you know what?
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe I want to save that for my book. And
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: maybe I don't want to have it be in this
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: book and then have that be the thing that then
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: everyone globs on what I said, pick it apart, make
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: me look bad. And then also, whatever I was to
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: reveal won't be juicy for my own book. So when
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: you look at like Sophia Franklin, who has her book
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: coming out called Daddy Issues, she is a very successful
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: podcaster in her own right. She just got married and
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: had the most stunning wedding. She's been on Juicy Scoop.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: I've been on her show. But she got her start
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: because she and Alex Cooper started Daddy Gang at Barstool first.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: And they... had this falling out because of contracts and
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: realizing that they were not getting paid what they should
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: be paid. And there's a whole story behind it. The
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: barstool guy has a story. Alex Cooper has her side
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: of it. And then Sophia does. And Sophia's book is
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: coming out. And in the excerpt that they used in
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: the Hollywood Reporter, which yes, I read that article too,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: because I actually went to a red carpet party held
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: by the Hollywood Reporter and and UTA, and they invited me,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: and for the biggest influencers and content creators, and I
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: got to leave with an actual magazine. So I read
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: it this weekend. But in that, she talks about how
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: she found out that for a while, Alex was getting
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: a higher salary than her and had kept it from her.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: And then it made her go okay, like I, I
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: might've been okay if you were getting more, but now
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I feel weird that I didn't know. And it made
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: the whole situation feel strange. And then at one point,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Alex goes, lets the attorney that was fighting for both
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: of them to get more money from Marshall. The attorney
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: calls Sophia and says, Sophia, I want you to know
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: that Alex Cooper is getting her own attorneys in this
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: negotiation and I can stay with you or, or I
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: can leave and you can get your own. And that's
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: when she was like, what the fuck is going on?
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: And then phone calls stopped and everything. So, you know,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: it's a big deal when a girlfriend friendship ends. And
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: so with Paris and Kim, they were not friends for
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: a very long time. Then it was like, oh my God,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Paris went to Kim's, you know, annual holiday party and
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: they went down the fake snow sledding things and everyone's like,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: this is great. But you know, the only thing I
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: can think of it and is that Paris had a
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: very successful book and maybe she's like, yeah, I don't
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: know what my next book will be. And I don't
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: know that I want to be the one that makes
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: her book even more juicy. Cause I would love to
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: kind of hear that time of like, how did you feel?
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Because I was there and I remember, that, you know,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: like Kathy Hilton and Chris, they were really good friends.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: And then when the show Kardashians became successful off the bat,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: it was like, and there was this divide and they
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: didn't talk for a while. And, you know, it's one
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: of those things like, well, why can't we all be
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: successful or whatever? Um, but they weren't and they weren't close.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: And then they realize probably with maturity, we all are
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: very successful. And Paris is extremely wealthy and, you know,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: very successful with a million different fragrances and clothing lines
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: and DJing and all the things she's done all those years. But,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: you know, when you're like, hey, I'm the one that
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: kind of created this whole thing. So I don't know
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: that I want to be the one that's doing you
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: a favor. But 17 cancellations tells me that she never
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: intended to give the interview and wanted to get that out.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: But now the story is that she canceled 17 times
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: on Kim. So that's the real genius because I just
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: spent a lot of time talking about Paris. That's Plant
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: someone in the audience to ask about you at a
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: BravoCon like Bethany Frankel should do. Or you act like
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: you're going to be part of a big book and
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: then cancel 17 times. I don't know. Oh, by the way,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: her boyfriend, Lewis Hamilton, which they seem like a going
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: strong couple. They spent the summer together, wakeboarding and everything.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: He bought the kids a golden retriever. Now, a lot
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: of people will say that are big Kardashian fans, like,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: how many dogs have the Kardashians gone through in the years?
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: And the little girls, when they were little girls, Ken
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: and Kylie were always getting dogs, and people were like,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: where did that dog go? Where did Chanel and Dolce
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: and Gabbana go? Whatever. The kids are all school-aged. A
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Golden Retriever's a great dog. Hopefully... Whether she gets rid
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: of her boyfriend or not, the dog stays. The dog's
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: a great dog, you know, and it doesn't break up
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: any family or whatever, and they stay together. She and Louis,
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how Kanye's going to
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: feel about the dog gift. Pete Davidson, you know, tattooed
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: the kid's initials on his body while Kim was still
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: married to Kanye. Kanye didn't like that, so I don't
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: know how he'll like the dog situation. But there you go.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Speaking of dogs that broke up marriages, Sofia Vergara and
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Joe Manginelli Elio. I told you that little chihuahua was
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: going to be a problem and it was. Well, she
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: does not like what he has said about her in
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: his book, Joe, that he had this debilitating disease. And
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: he would say, can I just have a hug? And
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: she was like, oh, you just want the hug? No,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: hug your little dog. And then, you know, little dog
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: was like, and the dog didn't like her and they
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: broke up. And she's like, now why the fuck are
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: you talking about me in your book and making me
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: look to be like a bitch when the dog was
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: supposed to be her dog? And then the dog decided
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: it liked Joe better. They are no longer together. Now
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: she is out. exclusive by TMZ, Sofia Vergara and Imagine
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Dragons frontman, Dan Reynolds, were seen getting quite cozy during
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: a romantic dinner. They're sitting at a restaurant, like, holding hands, like, above. Like,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: you got it. It could have been, we're going to
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: make this deal happen. We have a business thing going.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Or it could have been, I'm on a date with, like,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: a cool guy and I'm going to make sure that
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: TMZ knows it because... It's like taken inside the restaurant.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: So you're telling me that like a normal LA person
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: is at a restaurant and they took a photo of
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Sophia and this guy who I don't think a lot
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: of people would necessarily like recognize and then sent it
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: to TMZ and said, oh my God, they're getting cozy. No,
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: she wants the world to know that she's dating somebody else, Joe.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: And you and your little dog can snuggle without her.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: And you know, Savannah Guthrie's mother, Nancy Guthrie, is still missing.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: I think they've accepted that she's no longer with us,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: but we still don't know what happened to that crazy story. Well,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: now sources are coming out and saying that they believe
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: that there's these two men that, according to the source,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: was told the story. These two guys were watching... that
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: there was a story done on a local restaurant in
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Tucson with Savannah Guthrie. And that is where they realized
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: that her mother lives in Tucson. That was their clue.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: And they have a string of crimes, but they also
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: like sometimes work as day laborers and things like that
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: and at restaurants. So according to this source, allegedly they
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: planned on robbing her and they saw her leave and
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: they thought that she was not home. So then they
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: came back after they saw her leave thinking that she
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: wasn't in the house and And then went in the house.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: I remember she went to have dinner with her son-in-law
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: and daughter and then came back in an Uber. So
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm like, did they see her leave and
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: then get their supplies together and then come back into
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: the house? And then she was already dropped off by
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: the Uber. That they didn't expect her to be there.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: That then an altercation happened. And then they took her body.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: to another location. And then when all the news went
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: is when they left and went back to Mexico. But
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: the thing that I think is interesting about the story
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: is kind of what I have always thought. Now, I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: thought it was someone local. So this would be somebody
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: kind of local. And that they just thought, oh my God,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: the connection to Savannah Guthrie, this woman must be so rich.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Because to an average person, just because someone is a
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: relative of someone they see on TV, Sometimes I think
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: the person on TV is wealthy. They're not. And then
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: to think that like the mother would have so much
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: valuable stuff in this Tucson home or whatever. Um, so they,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: these two people, they are a person of interest and
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: they are apparently going to be looked into, but they
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: have to find them of course in Mexico, which could
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: be difficult. But this is a story that now is
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: going around, um, But it makes sense. It makes sense
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: that the intention was not to keep her kidnapped and captive.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: But then that doesn't explain if all those kidnapping letters
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: were just people that were obsessed with the case and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: wanting to insert themselves. Were they really true kidnapping letters
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: from these guys? Because was she already gone? You know,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's very sad, but it makes sense.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: But also, you know... yeah, that it was possibly letting
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: the world know that your mother is a local person
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: living in this town. You know, it's just how are
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: you really supposed to protect anybody? Were you not supposed
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: to do that? Like she lived her life as herself
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: on the Today Show and featured her mother. But I
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: remember when this case first started, people were like, you know,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: she had her mom on the show and she let
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: people know where her mom was. And then, you know,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: and I think that's just why she was, you know,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: feeling obviously terrible about it, but also trying to use
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: her celebrity to say, if you have her and she's okay,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: can you let us know? And then eventually she was like,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: if you have her and can we just be known,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: can we just lay her to rest and know that
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: she's no longer here? So that was really sad. Mariah
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Carey wrote a book and it's been going on for
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: a long time and her brother sued her for defamation
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: and she won. And in the book, she talked about
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: her brother and his crimes and that he had sold
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: cocaine and done time in prison. And somehow he was like,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: that's not true. Well, it was. And, you know, somebody
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: had to sue his sister and it's like she could
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: tell her story. And if you're part of her life
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: and it's true, like she could tell it. But he
• 1:02:47
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