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Hellbent with Nicholas Vince · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is John Schneider, and you are listening to
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  Speaker 1: This episode is rated M for Misty. Yes, that's right,
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  Speaker 1: this is a Misty episode, so it will be laced
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  Speaker 1: with profanity even more than usual. If you're not comfortable
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  Speaker 1: far less offensive. Okay, maybe. With that having been said,
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  Speaker 3: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 2: What's up?
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  Speaker 5: Welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Misty.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm Jay.
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  Speaker 6: You seem like you weren't quite certain.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know I was coming back.
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  Speaker 2: You're always here.
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  Speaker 7: You can't escape.
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  Speaker 1: You know that.
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  Speaker 7: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
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  Speaker 7: the Oddity Studios as we continue on with our Scarefest
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  Speaker 7: wrap-up for this year. So, aside from that, and this
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  Speaker 7: I realized when I was thinking as we're driving there today,
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  Speaker 7: I was like, you know what we also talked about
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  Speaker 7: last time? I remember talking last year as we're there
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  Speaker 7: on the outskirts of Scarefest about our fun seasonal foods.
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  Speaker 7: It was nice and cool this past week. I know
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  Speaker 7: now it's back to being hot and annoying again, but
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  Speaker 7: I felt for a day and a half, I'd get
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  Speaker 7: up in the morning, I'd be like, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of like fall.
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  Speaker 6: I know. I had chili the other day.
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  Speaker 7: I was like, Halloween's on the way. We're Halloween people,
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  Speaker 7: so we get excited.
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  Speaker 6: I bought some candy corn, but then it got hot again,
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  Speaker 6: and I can't feel like I can eat it yet.
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  Speaker 7: So that's, yeah, that's what I was going to say.
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  Speaker 6: That candy corn and the mellow pumpkins, because I fucking
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  Speaker 6: love those little pumpkins.
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  Speaker 7: Oh my lord. Well, I, again, I saw it start
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  Speaker 7: creeping in. I started seeing the signs. Pumpkin spice something
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  Speaker 7: or other is going to be.
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  Speaker 2: On your shelf soon.
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  Speaker 7: So as of today, I thought that would be the
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  Speaker 7: way to kick off the scare fest.
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  Speaker 2: And rolling into Halloween. I had.
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  Speaker 7: Pumpkin flavored something oh you didn't bring me it's a
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  Speaker 7: pumpkin flavored donut and they're over there would you like
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  Speaker 7: one no i'm good.
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  Speaker 6: You said you want i mean i already ate one
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  Speaker 6: of your weird fucking key lime pie twizzlers you.
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  Speaker 2: Got candy then what do you.
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  Speaker 6: Want it actually wasn't bad actually.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah i was i was i bought it almost of
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  Speaker 2: like oh this could be.
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  Speaker 6: Terrible like i said it's still not as bad as
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  Speaker 6: the caramel apple twizzlers were those were nasty it.
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  Speaker 7: Seems again that seems like that should work but it
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  Speaker 7: was gross so much but surprisingly if you're okay with
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  Speaker 7: the flavor of key lime pie This is like a
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  Speaker 7: fake candy version of that. So you might, even though
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  Speaker 7: they were already clearance on Mount by the time I
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  Speaker 7: find them.
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  Speaker 2: So good luck. Good luck tracking them down.
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  Speaker 6: I never heard of them before.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was so weird. I had to try them.
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  Speaker 1: So yep.
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  Speaker 7: There's some candy for you. Not necessarily Halloween ish, probably
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  Speaker 7: a little more, you know, Florida ish, but anyway. So yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I thought it was kind of cool that, you know,
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  Speaker 7: the pumpkin flavored stuff's coming and that just means Halloween's
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  Speaker 7: come rolling in. I'm assuming you're all excited to stock
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  Speaker 7: up on Count Chocula's.
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  Speaker 6: Hells yeah, I already bought the glass set. I was
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  Speaker 6: pretty excited about those.
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  Speaker 7: Your fine glassware that you.
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  Speaker 6: Hell fucking yeah, I got me some Count Chocula glass.
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  Speaker 7: Here's my china and Frankenberry glass to go with it.
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  Speaker 7: Oh shit.
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  Speaker 6: I love all the Halloween things. I get so excited.
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  Speaker 6: But I really haven't bought anything super Halloween-y except for
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  Speaker 6: the Count Chocula glass. I was pretty excited about that.
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  Speaker 7: These are just random things that I thought of this
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  Speaker 7: week that I'm like, we're going to have to discuss that.
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  Speaker 8: Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 7: Misty's going to need to know. Oh, Lord. Assuming you
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  Speaker 7: haven't seen the commercials for the new Dancing with the Stars.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, John Schneider. I don't have to see the commercial,
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  Speaker 6: mind you. I am his friend. I follow him on Facebook,
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  Speaker 6: so I see all the John Schneider related things. So
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  Speaker 6: I'm pretty, I mean, I won't watch it. I'm not
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  Speaker 6: going to lie.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you probably should. I mean, come on.
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  Speaker 6: I'll watch the segments that have John Schneider on them.
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  Speaker 8: Well, obviously.
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  Speaker 6: Because, yeah, it's John Schneider and then a whole bunch of,
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  Speaker 6: what the fuck is this person?
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  Speaker 7: That's why I question most, I'm using quotes here, reality stars.
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  Speaker 2: Most of them, I'm like, who are you?
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  Speaker 6: Dancing with these people.
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  Speaker 7: Dancing with some people that you probably haven't heard of
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  Speaker 7: or people from other reality shows, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 7: doesn't count as being a celebrity in my book. But, again,
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  Speaker 7: I'm old school. So the millennials probably think reality stars
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  Speaker 7: count as real stars.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever.
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  Speaker 6: But John Schneider's delightful.
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  Speaker 7: But John Schneider's an old dude like me, and he
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  Speaker 7: is a super cool dude because he hung out in the...
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  Speaker 7: He was in the General Lee. That makes you cool, obviously. Duh.
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  Speaker 6: He's got his own problems right now, so I can
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  Speaker 6: understand why he's doing everything he can to get some money.
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  Speaker 1: Did I hear that?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know. John Schneider's having fucking financial problems. His
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  Speaker 6: wife wants so much fucking money that doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 7: I might have sent that thing to you, too. Like,
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  Speaker 7: what the hell is going on with John Schneider? I
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  Speaker 7: kind of blocked that out already.
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  Speaker 6: He's like, dude, he told the judge, just send me
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  Speaker 6: to jail. I can't give her this money. I don't
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  Speaker 6: have it. You're going to have to just, I'll do
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  Speaker 6: my time.
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  Speaker 7: Well, again, it's not like he was rolling in cash.
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  Speaker 7: Because even when I remember talking to him, he was like,
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  Speaker 7: he seemed way more interested in just like, Because he
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  Speaker 7: had land, but it was land in, like, Louisiana, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 6: Which then got flooded. He had a studio.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: His studio was there. It got flooded twice, so he
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  Speaker 6: has no fucking money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And that's all he seemed like he was concerned with
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  Speaker 7: at the time. He's like, he wasn't worried about most
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  Speaker 7: other stuff. He was there, like, talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 7: wanting to make movies with his friends and having that land.
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  Speaker 7: But again, like, it was a fancy, you know, high-end studio.
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  Speaker 7: It was land he had in Louisiana, which, hey, guess what?
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  Speaker 2: Louisiana floods. So, of course, now everything's flooded out.
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  Speaker 6: So, yeah, he's had a lot of financial hardships lately.
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  Speaker 6: So he's just.
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  Speaker 8: Whatever.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, this is what I've been wanting to bring up
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  Speaker 7: for a while. And I just because it is a
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  Speaker 7: geeky related person. But have you seen the commercial? Again,
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  Speaker 7: this is more general network nonsense. But have you seen
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  Speaker 7: the ads.
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  Speaker 2: For the rookie?
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  Speaker 9: No.
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  Speaker 2: The new rookie.
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  Speaker 7: There wasn't old like rookies, but this is a new
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  Speaker 7: TV show.
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  Speaker 2: It's about a cop.
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  Speaker 7: He's an old dude that decides to be a cop
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  Speaker 7: and it stars Nathan Fillion.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I love Nathan Fillion.
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  Speaker 7: Which it does, it actually looks well made, but there
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  Speaker 7: was a moment where I went, wait a minute. So
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  Speaker 7: the premise of this is all the cops and they
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  Speaker 7: all get together for their Hill Street Blues moment and
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  Speaker 7: the cop up front is making fun of him because
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  Speaker 7: he's an old dude. But the premise of the whole
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  Speaker 7: show is this dude's 40 and decides to become a cop.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm like, alright, now don't get me wrong, Nathan
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  Speaker 7: Fillion looks good, but I'm like, know the math enough
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  Speaker 7: to know there's no way in hell he's 40 like
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  Speaker 7: there's some acting going on here so i looked it
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  Speaker 7: up he's like the end of his 40s like he
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  Speaker 7: still looks amazing he looks damn good don't get me
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  Speaker 7: wrong but i was just like i just there was
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  Speaker 7: just enough of a bell that went off that went
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  Speaker 7: no mathematically there's no way in hell he's 40 like
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  Speaker 7: i you look confused boyfriend.
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  Speaker 10: Well i mean it's possible you know He could play it.
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  Speaker 2: He plays it, though. That's the thing. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: he looks young enough. He can pull it off.
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  Speaker 1: I don't look 40.
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  Speaker 7: But I just know, like, I've known who he is
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  Speaker 7: for long enough. And I'm like, he was already not
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  Speaker 7: a kid when this was on. And I just started
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  Speaker 7: doing the math.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to Google this. It'd be
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  Speaker 2: like me or you playing a 30-year-old. It would be easy.
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  Speaker 7: Some people might buy it. But I just thought that
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  Speaker 7: was funny for geek reasons. I was just like, no,
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  Speaker 7: I know that's not true.
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  Speaker 2: So I just thought that was funny.
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  Speaker 10: Well, you only know it because you know it.
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  Speaker 7: Because I've seen him around long enough to go.
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  Speaker 2: Most people might not know it because they don't know him.
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  Speaker 10: They only know him from.
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  Speaker 8: They may not even know him from Firefly.
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  Speaker 2: Especially network people. Well, no, they know him from.
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  Speaker 6: Castle.
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  Speaker 11: Castle.
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  Speaker 7: Castle.
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  Speaker 2: That might be the only thing they know him from.
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  Speaker 2: Had a huge following, yeah, so.
• 9:08
  Speaker 6: Swamp Ass. Did you ever see that thing he did?
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  Speaker 6: It was talking about Swamp Ass.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Nathan Fillion, Swamp Ass. If you have not seen it,
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  Speaker 6: watch it.
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  Speaker 7: Fuck. Also his, what's the nail gun?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the nailing.
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  Speaker 3: Nailing.
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  Speaker 6: Nailing your boss's wife.
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  Speaker 7: Nailing, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What were those called again?
• 9:29
  Speaker 6: Those were called, what was it?
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  Speaker 8: PG porn. PG porn.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, PG porn.
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  Speaker 7: Google that because this is the best one. So once again,
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  Speaker 7: I love late to fill you. I just thought it
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  Speaker 7: was funny. I was like, that math don't work right.
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  Speaker 9: All right.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think instead, you guys don't even have to
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  Speaker 7: watch a movie this week because we've got somebody to
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  Speaker 7: watch a movie and they're awesome. So I'm going to
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  Speaker 7: go hang out with Nicholas Vince.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about a movie.
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  Speaker 7: And it's going to be awesome. Let's go do that right.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Am I the king of friction and.
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  Speaker 7: Heartache and the pain is of no consequence.
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  Speaker 6: I am heaven.
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  Speaker 12: My walls are closing in.
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  Speaker 7: Control. All right, so we're back with, you know, one
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  Speaker 7: of my favorite guests. And I guess things have been
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  Speaker 7: going well since last we spoke.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been quite extraordinary.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been a really, really busy year. So I made,
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  Speaker 8: kind of kicked off at the beginning of 2017 when
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  Speaker 8: I did a Kickstarter for a couple of short films
• 11:07
  Speaker 8: that are.
• 11:10
  Speaker 8: Your Appraisal and Necessary Evils, which was very well, went
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  Speaker 8: extraordinarily well. I filmed with my mates over at Celtic
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  Speaker 8: Badger in Ireland over three days. Two short films in
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  Speaker 8: three days, so much fun. Supported by a wonderful cast
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  Speaker 8: and crew. And then at the same time, I got
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  Speaker 8: a lot of acting work, particularly with, Book of Monsters,
• 11:38
  Speaker 8: playing Jonas, playing a dad in Book of Monsters, which
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  Speaker 8: premiered at London Fright Fest three weeks ago now, at
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  Speaker 8: the beginning, yeah, in August, over the August bank holiday
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  Speaker 8: weekend in the UK.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a full-length feature?
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  Speaker 8: It's a full-length feature, yeah, a feature film. And they
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  Speaker 8: were able to announce immediately afterwards that it's being picked
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  Speaker 8: up for distribution by Dread Central Presents, and I believe
• 12:07
  Speaker 8: it's only their fifth title. So I'm really excited about
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  Speaker 8: it because I think their plans, from what I understand,
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  Speaker 8: there will be a limited theatrical release and then a
• 12:17
  Speaker 8: new great DVD, and obviously it's a huge website. So
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  Speaker 8: I think we're in very good, safe hands there.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely.
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  Speaker 7: Well, we had a movie to discuss, but I know
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  Speaker 7: a lot of times on the show I'll be like,
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  Speaker 7: I'll ask people, hey, what have you seen? But this
• 12:30
  Speaker 7: time I've seen something that, I actually saw it the
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  Speaker 7: same weekend as the movie that you threw out there
• 12:36
  Speaker 7: as a suggestion. And then I was like, this is
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  Speaker 7: odd timing because it is almost like a spectrum of
• 12:42
  Speaker 7: we couldn't have gotten to this place without this one.
• 12:45
  Speaker 7: And just because I don't know how many people have
• 12:47
  Speaker 7: heard of this one, but let me get the title.
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  Speaker 7: It is a documentary called Scotty and the Secret History
• 12:52
  Speaker 7: of Hollywood. And the way they pitch it is the
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  Speaker 7: deliciously scandalous story of Scotty Bowers, a former Marine who
• 13:02
  Speaker 7: lands in Hollywood after World War II and becomes a
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  Speaker 7: legendary escort and sexual procurer for many celebrities as time
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  Speaker 7: went on.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: And it is amazing.
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  Speaker 7: Once you get into it, he is, he is, he's
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  Speaker 7: like 90 when the movie starts, we were at his
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  Speaker 7: birthday party and he is still very fun and relaxed and,
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  Speaker 7: and just sort of involved in everything going on. And
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  Speaker 7: he's recently written a book. And in the book, at
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  Speaker 7: the time, because they talked to him, and he's like,
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  Speaker 7: I would have never put this out, you know, back
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  Speaker 7: in the day. Because, and he kind of catered to
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  Speaker 7: anyone who needed services, but a lot of the people
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  Speaker 7: were gay celebrities. And as you get into this, he's
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  Speaker 7: telling all these people, and it gets into, like, pretty huge, like, again,
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  Speaker 7: he wasn't dealing with low-end names. He, like, he deals
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  Speaker 7: with Cary Grant, Randolph Scott, Spencer Tracy, Captain Hepburn, Cole Porter,
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  Speaker 7: Charles Loudon.
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  Speaker 2: At one point he references J. Edgar Hoover.
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  Speaker 7: Like, it is amazing the amount of people that come
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  Speaker 7: into play in this story of his. So there are
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  Speaker 7: people that are like, you see him doing like a
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  Speaker 7: book signing, and this is where I was kind of like,
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  Speaker 7: it's an interesting perspective, because on one hand he's telling
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  Speaker 7: the story, and he's like, I was, you know, providing
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  Speaker 7: a service for people that could not live the life
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  Speaker 7: that they wanted to live otherwise. Like, you couldn't just
• 14:34
  Speaker 7: go out on the town and find someone. So this
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  Speaker 7: was the only way most of these people could, like,
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  Speaker 7: have any sort of human interaction, basically.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: So he's, yeah, he feels.
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  Speaker 7: Like he was just providing a service. But then people
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  Speaker 7: are questioning, well, now that he's like, I waited until,
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  Speaker 7: you know, everyone was essentially dead before I wrote this book.
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  Speaker 7: But people are still like, well, now are you betraying
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  Speaker 7: the confidence between you and your former clients and friends?
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  Speaker 7: He was also not just like a madam of sorts.
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  Speaker 7: He became really good friends with all these people. So
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  Speaker 7: people are like, is that okay that now you're sort
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  Speaker 7: of after the fact outing them? Like where some of
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  Speaker 7: them might not have been known to a lot of people.
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  Speaker 7: So it's that part of it's kind of interesting. And
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  Speaker 7: then there's also just that aspect that is it okay for, like,
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  Speaker 7: the family members that, like, maybe they weren't okay with
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  Speaker 7: having that out there, even though the person themselves is gone.
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  Speaker 7: They have all this, you know, extended family over the years. So,
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  Speaker 7: I don't know. I was going to get your take on,
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  Speaker 7: you know, you haven't seen the movie yet, but just
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  Speaker 7: that concept of someone dealing with that in the entertainment industry.
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  Speaker 8: Because it is... It's very difficult.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very different world we live in now.
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  Speaker 8: Well, it is a very different world, because the movie
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  Speaker 8: I chose, which was Hellbent, is 2008.
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  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 8: Which was regarded as the first gay mainstream stalk and
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  Speaker 8: slash film. Now, because there's people behind her who are
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: involved in Elm Street and Halloween and so on. And
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  Speaker 8: I was kind of thinking back in terms of Clive,
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  Speaker 8: Clive Barker.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: In terms of gay, you know, when he.
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  Speaker 8: I was out a long time before Clive was because
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  Speaker 8: I had nothing to lose. And nobody really knew who
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  Speaker 8: I was, apart from the fact that I was in Hellraiser.
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  Speaker 8: Clive had a phenomenally high profile.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And I know that there was a talk show host.
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  Speaker 8: I understand a talk show host in the UK just
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  Speaker 8: before he went on to set was the guy who
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  Speaker 8: just looked and said, I'm going to out you during
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  Speaker 8: this interview. Nice. Yeah. Actually, not in the 1980s.
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  Speaker 9: Nice.
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: And it's kind of like, no, you don't.
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: It's not cool.
• 16:50
  Speaker 8: No, not cool at all. Because this is the era
• 16:53
  Speaker 8: of AIDS. And it was incredibly difficult.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: And they kind of get to that.
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: Definitely that becomes the whole ribbon on that is the
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: Rock Hudson story. And that changed everything from that point on.
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely. And I think in terms of, I think
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: it's fascinating for historians to know. And let's face it,
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: there's a lot of gossip. The reason that I think
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: it's important that people should know is because it helps
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: young gay people. Yes. Or transgender or whatever. Whatever. Yeah,
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: whatever they put yourself on the spectrum.
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: They definitely get to that, too, that it's not exclusively
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: about gay celebrities or even Scotty himself. Because Scotty himself
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: was doing many of these special projects. And, like, Scotty also...
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: went wherever need be like Scotty is not a shy
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: guy and he did what I mean there's times when
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: he's involved with all these you know famous actors but
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: at the same time at some point they mention he
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: has a three-way with Ava Gardner and Lana Turner so
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: I mean I'm like yeah Scotty just took care of
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: whatever business he felt was.
• 18:00
  Speaker 8: Necessary yeah that's really interesting he's yeah he's a fascinating
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: guy I think that the inevitably what one must ask
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: is okay these people are dead therefore they cannot deny
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: one has to wonder what proof and therefore they can't
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: argue irrespective of the morality it's just pure from a
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: historical perspective how much should we believe can we believe
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: and prove stuff happens and there doesn't seem to be
• 18:35
  Speaker 8: too much point in making yeah Telling lies about it. So, yeah,
• 18:41
  Speaker 8: I think it's difficult. I think mostly people who are gay, etc.
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: My breath, and I've just said it, etc. Wherever you
• 18:51
  Speaker 8: find yourself on the spectrum.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Well, that's kind of where we land now.
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: You just don't question anyone.
• 18:55
  Speaker 8: You just do what you're okay with. And as long
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: as you're not actually physically harming anybody. Willing parts. Well, yes,
• 19:03
  Speaker 8: and it's to do with... Somebody was asking me about
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: We were talking about the Me Too, funnily enough, at
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: this convention. We're at Scarefest at the moment. We were
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: out and saying there is a danger of the witch hunt.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: There's been a few that are questionable already.
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely. It's kind of like saying there's this feeling.
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: And also, different times, different mores, different understandings. I think
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: it's to do with the position of power. If somebody
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: has a position of power, if they are a gatekeeper,
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: I think this is what is so disgusting about Harvey
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: Weinstein and all his supporters and the act of time
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: is the fact that actresses were expected to sleep with
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: basically unattractive men because they had the power, because they weren't...
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: the Glittering Prize. And I think this is where it's
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: deeply disturbing. Kevin Spacey is not a nice person from
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: what I understand. And when it's between men, men are
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: predatory creatures. And sexually predatory creatures. And if you're young
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: and pretty, you learn how to deal with that pretty quickly.
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: Particularly if you're straight and you're wanting to work in
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: the industry, you have to learn straight, gay, because it
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: wasn't just Harvey Weinstein. There are the equivalent of male
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: predators in that. It's like saying, do me a favor, etc. No,
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: I think you have to be careful about And I
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: think it is to do with the power and youth
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: and so on. And let's face it, young men are
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: horny bastards. Without a doubt. And also, when I say this,
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: I have to couch this very carefully. Women are also
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: sexual creatures.
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: And should be allowed to be, but not taken advantage of.
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: But again, women do use their sexual wiles in order
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: to entice men. That is all part of the way
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: that sexuality works. I think the way you have to
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: look at it is to do with the position of power.
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: What is the situation here? And then we do need
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: to protect young people. Obviously, we need to protect young people.
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: And that actually, we should be basing stuff on... The
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: trouble is, people is people. And a lot of... Whatever
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: the theory of it is. Interesting. I look forward to
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: seeing it. Yeah, definitely. That sounds really interesting. Is it
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: on Netflix?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: It just.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: Again, it was a limited theatrical run that played in
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: my town.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I.
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: I would definitely look for it in theaters, and I
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: would assume it's going to hit streaming pretty quick.
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: Right, right.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Because documentaries, there's always a home for those.
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah, no, absolutely. And what's the name of it again?
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: It is, just to get it right, Scotty and the
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: Secret History of Hollywood.
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: Scotty and the Secret History of Hollywood.
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: So it is definitely worth checking out.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: Cool.
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: But that seemed like interesting timing, because, yeah, as we
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: get into this week's Sofa Theater feature is Hellbent, the
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: year is 2004, and the director, Paul.
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: Is it Etheridge?
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's Etheridge.
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: And they plot, according to IMDb, Halloween in West Hollywood.
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: Two guys making out in the park are interrupted by
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: a serial killer. Later that night, a group of gay
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: kids decide to visit the site of the murders. Not
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: the greatest, but.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: It never is on IMDb. So, spoiler alert.
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: I guess.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Go watch this movie.
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: Spoiler alert.
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: But yeah, I guess I want to hit all of
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: it because i do still have because even you sort
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: of mentioned it when you pitched it because i'm like
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: there are times when i'm like okay this is also
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: an independent production because there are moments when i'm like
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: oh lighting issues in.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: The office in particular.
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: Oh huge lighting it's so dark i mean you have
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: to turn the brightness of this out and you just
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: think okay this is really dark they took this from
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: a really from a what obviously was fairly limited yeah
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: all And I remember when we first saw it. Funnily enough,
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: when I first saw it, the thing that attracted me,
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: I hadn't realized it was a gay film when I
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: first saw it. The poster, it shows a guy with
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: a sickle resting on his eyeball, the point of a
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: sickle resting on his eyeball. And I remember it was like, oh, wow,
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: that's really powerful. And that was the thing that first
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: attracted me.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: And you sort of bank on that image, it feels like.
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: I almost wonder if it's almost reverse-engineered. did they have
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: that image? And we're like, how do we make that
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: a functional part of our story? Because there's a, I'm like, otherwise,
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: does it have a reason to tie? I mean, I
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: found a good way to loop it into him and
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: the not being a cop and all, but I'm just like,
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: it feels almost like the poster, again, in true old
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: school Hollywood fashion, the poster came first and they went, okay,
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: now how do we make this fit our post? Yeah.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: This is a great image, which it is.
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, I, We're kind of pressed for time. Which
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: is my fault, folks. I just ran very, very late
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: and managed to... You have a.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Lot going on.
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: I have a lot going on today. I think what
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: I find absolutely fascinating is that it is just... I'm
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: not saying it's really gay men. It's done without this
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: being an issue. It is just.
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: These are just guys out to have a really good time.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: It's really, really well done. Apart from the technical issues
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: we've talked about.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, otherwise.
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: The murders. For those of us, or for me, watching it,
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: it's very much gay stereotypes. In terms of clones and
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: drag queens, etc. But Beautifully Done is a lot to
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: do with identity. It's a lot to do with wanting
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: to find friendship more than just sex. It's a about relationships, um,
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: and so on. You have basically gay men in West
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: Hollywood as teenagers. Um, it's like, they're not, they're in
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: their twenties, their late twenties and thirties. They're not kids.
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: They are not kids, but they're behaving like teenagers because that,
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: you know, gay men, um, who obviously the Peter Pan complex, um,
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: I think it's very well done. It's got some really
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: good jump scares. It's taught. Um, it's a really good fatty.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Um, It's a leather devil.
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: What did you think of it?
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: I think that is, because again, I didn't really know
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: that until I was kind of already into it. I'm
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: just like, okay, this is definitely just full on into
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: that world because they are in their.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Own sort of subculture. As you get into the clubs,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: it's like it's.
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: Not something that normal straight people bother with. So this
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: is like its own little self-contained world and there are
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: this like, there are roles for people. There are Like,
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: even when the guy's like, I'm not going in there. Like,
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: it's within their own subculture. There is, like, dividing lines of, like,
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: this is where I hang out. This is where you
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: guys hang out.
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah. There's a difference between a leather bar and, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: That's, again, almost like owning up to the realistic world
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: that it takes place in. Again, you can always kind
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: of tell when you work in gay characters that are
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: written by someone who's straight. And then directed by someone
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: who's straight and acted by... And you start feeling this
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: disconnect of like, I don't know that you really know
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: what you're doing. Whereas this at least felt genuine. And
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: I think what was so impressive is, again, for so
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: many years watching people try to shoehorn in a gay
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: character that they didn't know what to do with, it
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: also usually feels.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: It feels like it's almost there for the gimmick of like,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: and we need a gay character, but it never does.
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: It's the GBF. It's the gay best friend who gets
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: killed round about the second. Yeah.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: Um, and I'll, you know, we feel for it. Sorry
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: for it. And yeah, that's it. You know, the gay
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: best friend always gets killed off. Um, let's face it. Yeah.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: I just think it's really fascinating film. It's good entertainment.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: Um, they know what they're doing.
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: It's well put together. Yeah, it's really well put together.
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: And the kill scene, again, it's creatively shot.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: The strobe light murder.
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: In the middle of a group of people is, like,
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: really interesting because you haven't, you've seen a little variation
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: on that, but this is so, like, in the middle.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: And because it's Halloween, everyone kind of thinks that there's, like,
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: you know, everyone's got makeup.
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: On or something, so they kind of get away with
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: it a little more.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: And it's, yeah, it's just so, again, that's what I
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: think it's like. It doesn't play that as part of
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: the gimmick of it. It's just, here's the horror movie
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: that we're making. And by the way, these characters are
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: all gay. It doesn't use that as like a crutch to, oh,
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: and then we shoved this in the middle of it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: Like it doesn't play it for.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Again, it just doesn't make it.
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: The two guys making out in the car within the
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: first three minutes of the movie, it's very clear what's
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: going on. You know right from the very beginning exactly
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: what it is. There is no apology for it. It
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: was incredibly.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Refreshing to find.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: And that twist on the old school, because it's usually
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: from the 50s on of the guy and the girl
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: making out in the car. This is also going on.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: It's just not the traditional version you might have seen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: And it also works in a very, with that killer,
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: it's not, again, this could go a very ugly way
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: of like why they're being sought. he does not seem
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: to care.
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: Why he's just killing for the sake of.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: It is by the end he is almost very jason
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: or michael myers yes there is nothing inside it's just
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: a killing machine yeah and even a joke by the
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: little twist ending there of like oh let's set it
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: up like here's the sequel.
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: Out yeah yeah that's.
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: So like traditional 80s slasher genre stuff it knows.
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: Exactly what it is but i think it's just a
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: refresher because it kind of like Gay men, as I say,
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: are just like teenagers. They're all interested in sex. You
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: get punished if you... I just think it's fun. It's
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: just fun, really good entertainment. As I say, turn the
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: brightness up as much as you can to watch what's
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: going on in some of the shots. But the acting's
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: very good. The characters are likable.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, I think the characters are also....
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: Again, usually I think they're written very weak and we.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Get nothing out of them.
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: All of these are pretty good guys, except our cowboy
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: is very horny but aside from that like most of
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: these guys i'm like you want to hang out with
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: them like these are all pretty good guys and they're
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: well written and they're you see them again like they're
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: hanging out together they want to go hook up but
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: they're not there to be involved with each other they're
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: just there because they're a great core group of friends
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: yeah and that comes through and i think that all
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: is so well written that it's it's pretty impressive that
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: that got through.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: The system i got made.
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: I love the fact that it was one of the
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: guys is just it's the high school crush It's just
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: completely the high school crush. The whole thing is set up.
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: It's really good. I really do recommend it.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Definitely.
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: So thank you for recommending it. Do you have stuff
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: you want to get out there you've got coming up to.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Spread the word?
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: I've already mentioned Book of Monsters. There is a film
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: called Heckle. which features Clark Gable III, Clark Gable's son,
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: who I believe does a TV series over here to
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: do with cheating lovers. I'm knowing. Who knows? I didn't
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: get to work with him, but I'm really interested, and
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: there's some more casting announcements coming out fairly soon, I believe. Again,
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: hopefully in the new year. Again, it was a day.
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: It was a really good, fun scene that I did.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: There's that. There is an anthology film. I'm in the
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: wraparound section for that called For We Are Many from
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: Hex Media. So, yes, I did shot that earlier on
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: as well. There's Black Gloves, also for Hex Media. I
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: play an uncle in that. And then there's an Italian
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: production called... uh, fuck you immortality, um, which I'm really
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: looking forward to as well. That was a, that was
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: absolutely fascinating. Do a day's filming in Italy, uh, just
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: North of Venice. Really grateful.
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: Specifically seek out more acting.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Cause for a while you'd settled into writing.
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: It seems like it's kind of like, I honestly, I'm
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: such a butterfly. Um, I am seeking out more acting work.
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: I want to do more in film TV. I'd also
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: do want to do more writing. Um, It's kind of
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: one of those things. It's just, there's so much I wanted,
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: as ever.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: As ever, there is also so much.
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: If I could have another life. It's great being a Gemini,
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: because you can always believe you can do twice as
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: much as you can physically do, because half your mind
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: is working on something else. And I've got some other
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: projects that I'm working on at the moment as well.
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: In fact, I'm going away filming a week tomorrow. I'm
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: going to love it again. A film called Paintball Massacre.
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: She's just filming at the moment. Read the script. Love it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: Absolutely love it. So that's filming at the moment. Well,
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: it's filming in the next few weeks. And then again,
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: I'm guessing that'll probably be out sometime next year. A
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: lot's going on. Keep an eye on the website.
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: Definitely, yes. NicholasVince.com Anything you want to pass the word on,
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: we'll help get the word out because you've got a
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: lot in the works.
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Thanks again for being on.
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Welcome back anytime. My pleasure.
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: Thank you so much. Thank you.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I've been helping, baby.
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: Helping on loving you all day long.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Helping on drugs because.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: They turn you on.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: Don't know what else to do.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I've been helping, baby.
• 33:15
  Speaker 12: Even though now what I'm supposed to do I don't
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: give a damn.
• 33:37
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  Speaker 14: Two screen shockers together hitchhiked to hell and kidnapped Coed.
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  Speaker 6: He wanted only the.
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  Speaker 15: Woke up this morning feeling low. Where my loved one
• 35:39
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  Speaker 1: Poor me.
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  Speaker 14: Poor me.
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  Speaker 7: Yo, pretty ladies around the world.
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  Speaker 12: Got a weird thing to show you, so tell all
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  Speaker 12: the boys and girls.
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  Speaker 7: We're about to go down, and you know just what
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  Speaker 12: Wave your hands in the air like you don't care,
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  Speaker 7: They're Do your dance, do your dance, do your dance.
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  Speaker 12: Tell me what's the word Oh, word up Everybody say
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  Speaker 13: Underway Word up.
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: That is something that's kind of different with kids coming up,
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: raising all these kids that are into horror, like seeing
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: people bring their kids to these conventions.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Because today I saw two little girls, probably, I don't know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: this tall. What's this tall? Like four, five, six.
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  Speaker 6: I would say six.
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: Six. We'll say five and six because one was a
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: little smaller. So like five and six year old girls,
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: they come up. There's a Michael Myers there actually wearing
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: a really good mask and complete jumpsuit.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: It wasn't the guy we saw with his kid earlier,
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: was it?
• 40:01
  Speaker 14: No.
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: No, this was like he was doing, he was in
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: character the whole time. I saw him several times that day.
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: But they immediately just ran up to him and like
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: threw their arms around his legs and hugged him. And
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: like we're totally genuine. Like this was like, I love
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: horror movies. Like it's just such a different thing than like.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Little kids 20, 30 years ago would have freaked.
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: Out if they saw some crazy knife-wielding maniac.
• 40:25
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: I think they would have freaked out years ago had
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: they seen that.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying.
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: When we took your kid to fucking Wonderfest and she
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: freaked out over seeing Darth Vader and some stormtroopers. That's
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: That was a long time ago.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: It's just different.
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, different.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: She was like, what, seven, eight?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: It's just different.
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, different now. We're conditioning kids to be cool with horror, so.
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: Bring your kids on out to Scarefest. That's what we're saying.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: Only as long as they can behave themselves. If you
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: bring a little screaming brat, I'm probably going to give
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: you dirty looks.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, mostly for Misty.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: So thank you once again to Nicholas. And he's awesome.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Go buy his books.
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  Speaker 7: Go support him because he's very cool. And go seek
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  Speaker 7: him out at other conventions like Scarefest. So thank you
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: once again to Scarefest for putting all of this together
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: and making that segment possible. So go to thescarefest.com and
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: you can see what's in the works for next time around.
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: So the only other thing that happened lately that I
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: was going to make sure you knew about, or we
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: might need to start pooling money together for you, are
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: you familiar with the Cameo website?
• 41:29
  Speaker 10: Like the Word Up Cameo?
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: No, because that's what I thought when I heard about it.
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: That sounds cool.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Actually, you can get it as an app on your phone,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: so you might need it right now. Basically, you can
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: go to this new feature.
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: It is interesting that this is what celebrity, speaking of
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: celebrity in the world we are today, that you can
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: basically go to this website and order yourself up a
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: greeting from people. And there's a lot of some celebrity,
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: but again, it's showing you you're bringing in a whole
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: different group of people that it's appealing to because it's
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: an app on your phone. So it's probably a lot
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: of kids. So there's a ton of reality stars. There's
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: some random like skateboard dudes from the moment. Like there's
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: totally different avenues of like who they're pulling in. But
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: there are some like actual like, celebrities and actors and
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: people maybe one big name so here's the one do
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: we need to start pulling money to get you a
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: special birthday greeting from bella thorne because she's on there
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: how much is that shit it hers is kind of
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: pricey oh good but here's the funny thing because they're
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: like 20 seconds long like it's just a shout out
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: on their phone basically you see them you should watch
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: her you might as well just bring it up now
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: you should watch hers Oh, my God.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: She's a mess.
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: I'm good.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Can I get a birthday wish from Cameo? They might
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: be on there. Like, we can sing. Be like, what's up?
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: It's your birthday. Word up.
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: What up? Are they still alive?
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: They might be.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I think we're on tour not that long ago. By that,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: I mean like 10 or 15 years ago.
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  Speaker 6: Were they at the fair for free?
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: They were probably at the fair for free.
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: So yeah, I didn't know if you were aware of this,
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: but yeah.
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: Bella Thorne is such a fucking mess, but goddamn.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, you need to watch her videos.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: I do watch her videos. I get on the Twitters.
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: Because this is like, that's what's funny is you would
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: think it's going out to your fans, so you'd put
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: a little effort in, but Bella is Bella.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: So she's laying on her bed.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: Zero fucks to give.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Zero makeups to wear.
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: She is, no offense, but like normally I don't care,
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: but I'm like, damn, what the hell's going.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: On, Bella?
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: So, like, she is just a mess, and everything is fucking,
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: it's your fucking birthday!
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Like, she just, the zero fucks has turned to 11, because.
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: Oh my god, she's such a mess. So, yeah, I just,
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: I thought it was pretty damn funny.
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: She is.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Like I said, I'm on her Twitter page, but yeah,
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: she is just in her own world. She is, but her,
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: but the One of her new movies I watched the
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: trailer for. It looks good.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised. I was like, what does she do?
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: Where you can see dead people or something?
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I thought the one where she can't go out in
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: the sun or something like that.
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: No, there's another newer one.
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: Because she's doing semi-serious stuff. I was like, wait, you
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: kept your clothes on for a whole movie? That's not
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: how you operate on your Instagram feed.
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: You didn't see what she was wearing in the Amityville Horror.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: See, again, you've told me about that one.
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: I haven't thought it out yet.
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: What little there is to that shirt. I'm like, why
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: even bother at this point?
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Personalized shout-outs.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Here we go.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Browse our talent.
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: Talent.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: That wasn't even worth, like, all four-finger air quotes.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: So, again, like, you see who they're kind of appealing
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: to because there's a whole section of just YouTubers. I'm like, dude,
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: if you can't give it a YouTuber to get you
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: a shout-out, like, geez. There are musicians. Okay, let's do
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: the actors, though. See, some of them, like, I saw
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: the clip that were, like, or as Hilton does it,
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: but I'm like, he's like, I just do them for cheap.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Like, I just think it's fun.
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: Like, and I made a good amount of money doing
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: them for nothing. So he's kind of doing, oh shit,
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: you can get Lance Bass.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Look at that.
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: Oh shit.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Look at that. How excited are you?
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: He'd probably come over and make me a birthday cake.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: And it'd be fucking fabulous. Oh, that was my other one.
• 45:16
  Speaker 8: Look at it.
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: Oh, Chad Lindbergh.
• 45:18
  Speaker 11: No, look.
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: Oh, Simon Rex.
• 45:20
  Speaker 14: Simon Rex.
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: Holy, I was distracted by Ash from.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: Oh God.
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: Supernatural Ash.
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Here you go.
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: It's not just millennials they're appealing to. Larry Wilcox from
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: Chips is on there.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Wow, what punch? Or, I mean, John? John from Chips.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Nobody's going to know who he is.
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: Oh, Lord, Kathy Griffin.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Can I pay to not have her call me?
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: I love Simon Rex. And let me tell you, the
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: only thing better than Simon Rex is on his Twitter page.
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: He has this segment where all he does is mock,
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: review Drake songs.
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: Well, please mock Drake as much as you want because
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: he gets on my nerves. But Kelly Berglund, on the
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: other hand, is not.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: She's on here.
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: But then I watch Lab Rat, so what do I know?
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: There was the other one.
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: Look.
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: Danica Keller.
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: John Schneider.
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: I love John Schneider.
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: He's gorgeous.
• 46:16
  Speaker 10: Is Robert Sheehan on there?
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: I love Robert Sheehan.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Sheehan.
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: The fact that Danica's on here is too. Like if
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: she gets on my shout out and gives me some
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: like math problems.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: And shit, I'll be pretty excited.
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: She is smart.
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: She is damn smart. Oh, I just thought this was
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: funny that this even became a thing now. So yeah,
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: if you need to sign up for some of these.
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: Oh shit, Drake Bell.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: You got some superstars.
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: He really has nothing better to do.
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: That blonde dude from Harry Potter.
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know who that is.
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know. Greg Cicero, previous guest of the show.
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: And Greg's was cheap. Again, I think he just likes
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: doing it. Some of these are funny.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: It is a fun idea, but it's just... How much
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: is cheap ones? Some of them are like $ 25.
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: Really?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: I might do that, but I don't know who I
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: would get. You'll have to browse the people on here.
• 47:12
  Speaker 10: Can I look at them without downloading the app?
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just scrolling through their options, so.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: Don't get me one of those.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: What?
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: Don't get me one of those. Don't get you one
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: of what?
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: Cameo things. He's going to get you one of these.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: He's going to get one for him.
• 47:29
  Speaker 10: Depends on who's on there.
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: I mean, I can't.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you now, you can't afford Caitlyn Jenner.
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: I don't care about Caitlyn.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Caitlyn's on here. But I was like clicked. I was like,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: what's that going?
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: How much was it?
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Let's see. It's only a grand.
• 47:48
  Speaker 11: What?
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Why don't you just go ahead and book one right now?
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: Fuck that mess.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Craziness.
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: I don't know most of these people.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of the thing.
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: I was like, the funny part was when I get it,
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: I was like, oh, look, this is a person I know.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: And then there's a.
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: Bunch of random YouTube people and kids from shows nobody
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: watches except maybe me. Holy shit, Daniel Logan.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Boba Fett. One of the Boba Fetts.
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: That maybe nobody's concerned with, but.
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: Then you'd also.
• 48:17
  Speaker 10: Have to get somebody that's fairly recognizable as far as
• 48:20
  Speaker 10: like their voice is concerned.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's video.
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: I think they like, you know, do the Skype it
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: kind of thing. You just get a random shout out
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: from them. Okay, there it is. Let's see if I
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: can bring up the... All right, here we go.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Oh my fucking God.
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: It's Theo's birthday.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Holy shit. Holy fucking shit, bro.
• 48:46
  Speaker 11: It's fucking Tia's birthday.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I'm so stoked.
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: And how much did somebody pay for this?
• 48:51
  Speaker 11: I wish I was celebrating your birthday with you. It
• 48:53
  Speaker 11: would be so much better than what I'm doing right now,
• 48:57
  Speaker 11: which is literally nothing. Well, nothing and getting ready for
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  Speaker 11: my day at work.
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  Speaker 9: Anyways, I wanted to say happy motherfucking birthday.
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  Speaker 6: Gosh, she's a mess.
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  Speaker 9: So, I'll be, you gotta say, like, thanks, Jolie. You're
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: the best, Jolie. Like, you're amazing. Because that was really,
• 49:19
  Speaker 9: really nice. of her, um, but yeah, I wanna say
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  Speaker 9: happy birthday, and mom wanna say happy birthday, and, oh, grandpa,
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: say happy birthday, yeah, yeah, yeah, too, say happy birthday, too, oh,
• 49:33
  Speaker 9: they all wanna say happy birthday, okay, Thea, I love you,
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: I hope your birthday's amazing, God.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: What a fucking mess. She's retarded.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Is there more people on here? She's crazy.
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: I think there's different categories you can go to.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Did I not call it she's a train wreck? Look
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: at her. She's just randomly laying on.
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: Her bed being a spaz. I do like that she
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: worked her dog into it. That was funny.
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  Speaker 6: I read a book, too. Should we talk about that
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: for a second? Because I want to discuss... how much
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: I'm aggravated by, how much I liked the second book
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  Speaker 6: better than I liked the other book that I read.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: It's hard for me.
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: Fantasy football?
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like, the levels this thing goes.
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: All right, I don't know that I can endorse reading.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: But feel free.
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: Okay, I read... Give me a second. Dean Kuntz's Phantoms.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, then that's like, it's the bomb in that book. Exactly.
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: And then, like, I was reading it. I'm like, all right,
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: it's about this creature older than time that lives in
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: the sewers and eats people and can take over their
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: shapes and their forms.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 6: And yet it was written years before Stephen King's It.
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: And during the book, Phantoms, they also refer to the
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: thing in the sewers as It. And they even call
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: attention to the fact that they are calling it it
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: other than like, oh, so now we're calling it it.
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: That's what we're calling it now. We're calling it it.
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: And it's just like, So he's not even clever at
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: his stealing.
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  Speaker 6: Because I'm pretty sure it came out before Stephen King's
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: It did.
• 51:20
  Speaker 7: Well, when you crank stuff out at the rate Stephen
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: King does, you don't know where you get these ideas from.
• 51:26
  Speaker 7: Maybe it just popped in your head one day. Maybe
• 51:29
  Speaker 7: you read a review of a book.
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  Speaker 2: That some other dude wrote. You know, whatever.
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  Speaker 6: But yet it was good. I would read Phantoms again
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: before I would read It because It was fucking stupid.
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: It was like the It's a fucking nightmare. It was just, oh,
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: what the fuck are we even doing? Yeah, Phantoms was
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: written in 83. Did I see that right?
• 51:50
  Speaker 14: 83.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: Let's see. It was... Because I had high hopes for It.
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  Speaker 6: And I was very let down. I hated that book.
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  Speaker 6: It was such a torturous event. Yeah, It was first
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: published in 86. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 7: Pretty sneaky, sis.
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  Speaker 6: But, I mean, there are some differences. I mean, in Phantoms,
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: the girl has to go pick up her sister because
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: she now has custody of her sister. So she goes
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: and picks her up. When they come back to the town,
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: everybody's either dead or gone.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I kind of remember that.
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: Like, I've only watched that movie once. And I remember
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: there were moments that actually were kind of cool concepts.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: So I guess that came from the book part.
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: But, yeah, I guess I should revisit the old Phantoms movie.
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: I do want to watch it again.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I do remember aspects of it being kind of cool.
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: I remember telling Boyfriend that it's back when Rose McGowan
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: was still kind of hot.
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: Well, I'm sure you can get a shout out from her.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Now if you'd like.
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: But yeah, after I was reading it, I'm like, wait
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: a minute. There's this creature in the fucking sewer. But
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: it didn't have the stupid shit like it. There was
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: no turtle.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: There was no clowns.
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: There was no giant spiders and turtles.
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: There was a giant moth that could.
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: Mothra!
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: That could.
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: it could devour your face in seconds with its acid.
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: It had moth acid.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Kind of a dinosaur.
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: But then it could like, it could like show, it would,
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: it would come back. It could take forms of people
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: that had, you know, absorbed.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Pretty creepy.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: You know? Ish. But again, it was just, I'm just
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: like this, but it actually kept my attention. It didn't
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: take me four fucking months to read. You know, it
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: wasn't like it, it was literally painful to read and
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: not because I was scared. But because I dreaded... Because
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: it was grueling. I dreaded picking the fucking book up.
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: And the thing is, I see this guy at work
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: on the shuttle, and he's reading his copy. And I
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: just want to be like, dude, no. Let me stop
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: you here. Let me save you.
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: Let me save you thousands of hours of reading.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: Let me just give you a hand here. You might
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: want to put that down and get a real book.
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: You know, because that one.
• 53:57
  Speaker 7: Top quality literature like Dean Kooten's.
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: Hey, you know what? It was fucking ten times better.
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: I might actually read... Phantoms again before I would ever fucking,
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: I want to burn it. I want to set that
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: fucker on fire. Yeah. So that's, I read a book.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Motherfucker.
• 54:16
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 54:17
  Speaker 8: So yeah.
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: Now I need to watch the movie because my boyfriend
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: hasn't seen it. So whenever I say Phantoms, Ben Affleck
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: is the bomb in Phantoms, he's like, what the fuck
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: are you even talking about? And like every night I
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: pick it up, I'd be like, Ben Affleck is the
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: bomb in Phantoms.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: You know what I hear about this next chapter? Ben
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Affleck is going to be the bomb in it.
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: You know, but it is, and actually, like I said,
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: I know I've seen the movie, but it's been a
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: long time. And another thing, they hear voices coming up
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: from the sewer, like through the fucking sinks, and I'm like,
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: isn't that fucking, fucking King directly fucking stole that. I mean,
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: it's like, literally, there's so much that I'm like, yep.
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: There's a Georgie that gets... Yeah.
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: No. I mean, like I said, there's no clown, but
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: it's like I said, it's this thing, and it.
• 55:04
  Speaker 10: There's like no musicians on here that I even know
• 55:06
  Speaker 10: who the fuck they are.
• 55:07
  Speaker 7: Because you're an old man.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like looking for Vanilla Ice. What the fuck's Vanilla
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Ice got to do? I bet we can get him
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: to call you up. Dude, I would do that. Write
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: a check right now. I would do it for Richie.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: He'll build you a deck and he'll give you a
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: birthday greeting. I'd like to go motocross with.
• 55:22
  Speaker 10: Me and him can like ride bikes.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: Good times.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: No musicians. Good times.
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: Birthday greetings.
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: I think that about does it this week.
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: Cool beans.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: We will return next time. Same geek feed.
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: Thanks for listening.
• 55:39
  Speaker 9: Bye.
• 55:42
  Speaker 13: Bye.
• 55:44
  Speaker 14: Bye.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: Sitting here, see him on the highway, never.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Known that he'll appear.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: All await, and he's taken over, hear the.
• 56:10
  Speaker 9: Roar as they sense the fear.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Heals, a good steel and a flash of light.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: Screams, from.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: A streak of fire as he strikes.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: Hell-bent, hell-bent Paletta.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Hellbent, hellbent for leather.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Like a snipe faster than a shadow Comes a flare
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: from a raging sun An exhibition, ship position Yet no
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: one knows.
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: From where he comes.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: Bulls, so distraught cannot take the crown Dreams, crash one
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: by one to the ground Hellbent, hellbent for leather.
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: I'll bet, I'll bet.
• 57:00
  Speaker 12: Forever There's many who tried to prove that they're faster
• 57:09
  Speaker 12: But they didn't last and they died as they tried
• 57:13
  Speaker 12: I'll bet, I'll bet forever How bent, how bent for leather.
• 57:49
  Speaker 11: How bent, how bent for leather How bent, how bent for.
• 57:55
  Speaker 10: Leather Yeah, it's like Larry Wilcox. He's like the only
• 58:18
  Speaker 10: actor I know that they have on here. Aside from
• 58:21
  Speaker 10: Kathy Griffin.
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: But I don't really want anything.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: From Kathy Griffin.
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: I don't want anything from Kathy Griffin.
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