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- 1:32SPEAKER_01: And without further ado, let's get right into the episode, episode 11.
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: Titled, What Do You Mean?
- 1:39SPEAKER_01: The Bengals bungled the Super Bowl.
- 1:44SPEAKER_01: Funny that you would think that the uh that would be the title, but yes, they did bungle the Super Bowl.
- 1:50SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of things that happened during the Super Bowl that I thought was weird.
- 1:56SPEAKER_01: And uh even furthered my proof when uh when you heard the mic'd up version.
- 2:02SPEAKER_01: If you get a chance, go to YouTube and listen to the mic'ed up version of the Super Bowl.
- 2:06SPEAKER_01: If you watch that and then come back here and listen to this, you will say, you will ask yourself this question.
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: You don't find that suspicious.
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: You don't find that suspicious.
- 2:18SPEAKER_00: You don't find that suspicious.
- 2:20SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, I actually do.
- 2:22SPEAKER_01: But listen to the mic'ed up thing.
- 2:23SPEAKER_01: But first and foremost, if you're a Bengals fan, get up, get up off your feet.
- 2:27SPEAKER_01: If you're standing up, listen to this.
- 2:28SPEAKER_01: Let's get ready.
- 2:36SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, this is the Cincinnati Bengals fight song.
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: Now, if you knew they had a fight song, I give you credit because I sure as heck didn't know.
- 2:44SPEAKER_01: And I've been a fan.
- 2:45SPEAKER_01: I was a fan for a long time.
- 2:51SPEAKER_01: You don't think they would update this?
- 2:53SPEAKER_01: This is 2022.
- 2:54SPEAKER_01: This sounds straight from the 70s.
- 2:56SPEAKER_01: But I ain't mad at them.
- 2:57SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
- 3:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 3:03SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 3:04SPEAKER_01: So with that being said, let's let's talk about let's talk about this.
- 3:08SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about the Cincinnati Bengals as a whole.
- 3:12SPEAKER_01: Uh this year was uh again a unique year.
- 3:15SPEAKER_01: They actually made it to the Super Bowl.
- 3:16SPEAKER_01: They haven't made it in since 80, I want to say 89 was the last time.
- 3:22SPEAKER_01: It was 33 years ago.
- 3:24SPEAKER_01: So yeah, maybe 89 if I'm doing the mental math in my head.
- 3:28SPEAKER_01: Nevertheless, the Bengals run this year was a little bit, you know, remarkable.
- 3:33SPEAKER_01: If you watch the Bengals or you pay attention to the Bengals like I used to, I'll get to that in a minute, you will know that this run was something, you know, magical.
- 3:42SPEAKER_01: They finished 10-7.
- 3:44SPEAKER_01: They finished uh top of the division, AFC North.
- 3:46SPEAKER_01: They beat the their rival Steelers twice, they beat the Ravens twice, and I think they beat the Browns one.
- 3:52SPEAKER_01: They split it one and one.
- 3:54SPEAKER_01: So that happened, and then they made it to the playoffs, and usually when the Bengals make the playoffs, they're already out by the first round.
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: Not this year.
- 4:02SPEAKER_01: They got to play the Las Vegas Raiders, yeah.
- 4:05SPEAKER_01: Las Vegas Raiders beat them, then went to Tennessee, beat them, and then went to Kansas City and beat them.
- 4:11SPEAKER_01: So you would think that the Bengals had this magical run that normally ends in celebration.
- 4:18SPEAKER_01: And not only that, the city itself, the city, the whole state of Ohio was set on fire by these Bengals.
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: I've never seen so many Bengals fans come out of nowhere with the hoodie, who day, who-day chant that they had.
- 4:34SPEAKER_01: And, you know, props to them.
- 4:35SPEAKER_01: It's good for the city.
- 4:36SPEAKER_01: It's good to have a winner in the city.
- 4:39SPEAKER_01: But ladies and gentlemen, Cincinnati is a cursed sports team.
- 4:43SPEAKER_01: Like I've I've talked about this before, but let's not forget that, you know, Cincinnati did have a basketball team, an NBA team.
- 4:50SPEAKER_01: Cincinnati Royals.
- 4:52SPEAKER_01: Look it up.
- 4:52SPEAKER_01: They had that.
- 4:54SPEAKER_01: The Reds, we yeah, we love our Reds.
- 4:57SPEAKER_01: They haven't done nothing since the what, 1990 when they won this won the World Series.
- 5:01SPEAKER_01: And then you got the Bengals and uh the main topic, the Bengals.
- 5:05SPEAKER_01: Uh, three Super Bowls, three losses, but all three losses were all California teams.
- 5:10SPEAKER_01: And on top of that, their combined losses, number of points was 12 points.
- 5:14SPEAKER_01: So they've been competitive in each and every game that they've played.
- 5:20SPEAKER_01: And when you look at that, and then again, as me, as what I consider myself as, I consider myself a divorced fan, which means I like you, but I like you from a distance.
- 5:31SPEAKER_01: You you don't you can't see me doing the podcast with my hands up in defense.
- 5:34SPEAKER_01: Like, hey, don't come any closer because you might get hurt.
- 5:38SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm talking about.
- 5:39SPEAKER_01: If you are a Bengals fan like I have been since the early 90s, you are, you should be.
- 5:44SPEAKER_01: If you're not still a fan, which give I give props to people who still are, I'm a divorced fan.
- 5:49SPEAKER_01: Let me let me explain what that means.
- 5:51SPEAKER_01: A divorced fan is somebody who's been through the rough with them, you know.
- 5:54SPEAKER_01: Uh the 1990s was rough.
- 5:58SPEAKER_01: When I came into existence way back in the 80s, and then I found out that the Bengals were good in the Super Bowl in 18 and 89, I asked my dad, like, Dad, is the Bengals actually a good team?
- 6:09SPEAKER_01: And he was like, Yeah, son, the Bengals are in the Super Bowl.
- 6:12SPEAKER_01: Why aren't you watching the foot?
- 6:13SPEAKER_01: Why aren't you watching the football game?
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: I said, I don't understand football at the time.
- 6:16SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, okay.
- 6:17SPEAKER_01: So he told me the Bengals were good in '88, '89, whatever season that was.
- 6:23SPEAKER_01: So it's my impression that they were good.
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: Hello.
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: 90s, 9 and 7, 1990, 3 and 13, 91, 5 and 11, 3 and 13, twice, 93, 94, 7 and 9, 95, 8 and 8, 96.
- 6:37SPEAKER_01: And I can go on.
- 6:38SPEAKER_01: I can finish the rest of the decade, but I got it down poorly.
- 6:41SPEAKER_01: 1990 finished in the 1990s, they finished 52 and 108.
- 6:47SPEAKER_01: Let that sink in.
- 6:48SPEAKER_01: They they let off over half, more than half their games.
- 6:53SPEAKER_01: Then they won.
- 6:54SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
- 6:55SPEAKER_01: So me, I'm a divorce fan.
- 6:57SPEAKER_01: Okay?
- 6:58SPEAKER_01: It's no problem.
- 6:59SPEAKER_01: I like you, like you from a distance.
- 7:00SPEAKER_01: And then the thing about this run that everybody in this in everybody in in Cincinnati area, they everybody was a Bengals fan.
- 7:08SPEAKER_01: I ain't seen so much orange and black anywhere.
- 7:12SPEAKER_01: Everybody like, who they, who they?
- 7:15SPEAKER_01: I'm like, who that?
- 7:17SPEAKER_01: Who they singing that?
- 7:18SPEAKER_01: Because I'm pretty sure you weren't saying that a couple years ago.
- 7:20SPEAKER_01: When Zach Taylor went four and 11 and 1, pretty sure you weren't saying that.
- 7:24SPEAKER_01: And everybody came out, everybody came out to Woodwork to be a Cincinnati Bengals fan.
- 7:28SPEAKER_01: And props to him.
- 7:29SPEAKER_01: Everybody loves a winner.
- 7:31SPEAKER_01: And as I do too.
- 7:33SPEAKER_01: But, you know, as you see, the thing is that, you know, I'm not going to recap the whole Super Bowl.
- 7:38SPEAKER_01: I don't, you know, that ain't that ain't necessary.
- 7:40SPEAKER_01: If you watch the Super Bowl, you know what happened.
- 7:42SPEAKER_01: And if you're especially from Cincinnati, you know what happened.
- 7:45SPEAKER_01: The Bengals, they they didn't, didn't know, they were, they seemed like guests there.
- 7:50SPEAKER_01: They were guests at the Super Bowl.
- 7:52SPEAKER_01: They didn't know how to act, I forgot my T.
- 7:55SPEAKER_01: How to act at the Super Bowl.
- 7:59SPEAKER_01: You know, there were so many things to worry about when it came to the Rams.
- 8:03SPEAKER_01: One of them was OBJ.
- 8:05SPEAKER_01: Odell Beckham Jr.
- 8:06SPEAKER_01: came out with purple hair, ready to play the Super Bowl.
- 8:09SPEAKER_01: And he started off.
- 8:10SPEAKER_01: I think he scored the first touchdown for the Rams.
- 8:13SPEAKER_01: But see, the thing is that when you go to the Super Bowl, you don't do things.
- 8:18SPEAKER_01: There's things that you don't do.
- 8:20SPEAKER_01: On your first possession, you don't go for it on a fourth down.
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: You gotta play the field.
- 8:24SPEAKER_01: Come on.
- 8:25SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm not a I'm not no coach, but I I do know we play the field the first possession.
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: We don't go for it on fourth down on our first possession.
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: And then turn around, the Rams score with Od O'Dell Beckham Jr.
- 8:36SPEAKER_01: scoring a touchdown.
- 8:37SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 8:39SPEAKER_01: So, you know, those things happened.
- 8:42SPEAKER_01: And it's like, what are the Bengals doing?
- 8:44SPEAKER_01: They responded back with a field goal.
- 8:46SPEAKER_01: Congratulations, 7-3.
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: And then the whole thing, and then the thing about the Super Bowl is that you gotta act like you've been there.
- 8:54SPEAKER_01: You remember the Patriots?
- 8:55SPEAKER_01: Every time the Patriots went, like every year, pretty much, Tom Brady and them, they knew they knew how to act.
- 9:01SPEAKER_01: They had their trick plays, but they knew how to play the game.
- 9:04SPEAKER_01: As soon as the Bengals scored a touchdown, there's some clown not dressed, not dressed, and not doesn't have a uniform on, out there celebrating with the Bengals, which resulted in the penalty.
- 9:15SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 9:16SPEAKER_01: So I mean, like, what are you doing?
- 9:18SPEAKER_01: It's the Super Bowl, and you going out, you a non-player out there celebrating the Super Bowl.
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: Of course the NFL saw that.
- 9:25SPEAKER_01: The NFL saw that.
- 9:27SPEAKER_01: They're like, hey, hey, hey.
- 9:28SPEAKER_01: All right, all right.
- 9:29SPEAKER_01: You know the Bengals ain't been there since what, 88, 89?
- 9:32SPEAKER_01: All right, we're gonna let that one slide.
- 9:33SPEAKER_01: Then the one with what T.
- 9:35SPEAKER_01: Higgins, when he grabbed the dude's helmet, NFL saw that.
- 9:39SPEAKER_01: I mean, again, if you watch the mic'd up version of the game, this ain't they this ain't football no more.
- 9:46SPEAKER_01: When when I play football, it was like, hey, we're gonna get them, we're gonna tackle them, we gonna kill the other team, we're gonna hurt them, we're gonna tackle all that.
- 9:55SPEAKER_01: Mic'ed up version, like, hey, hey, hey, my name's uh Joe Burrow.
- 9:58SPEAKER_01: Please, pleasure to meet plays it's a pleasure to play with you, uh Aaron Donald.
- 10:01SPEAKER_01: Please don't hit me so hard.
- 10:03SPEAKER_01: And it was like everything about the NFL mic'd up.
- 10:06SPEAKER_01: They were just like professionals.
- 10:07SPEAKER_01: And I'm not talking about professional football because they're like professional people.
- 10:10SPEAKER_01: Like, hey, sorry, I didn't mean to hit you with the face mask.
- 10:13SPEAKER_01: Uh, yeah, how about we go to dinner afterwards?
- 10:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that actually sounds pretty good.
- 10:16SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, is this not football?
- 10:19SPEAKER_01: Are they supposed to be talking like this?
- 10:21SPEAKER_01: I don't I always thought it was like, hey, get them, tackle them, and rip their mask off, type stuff.
- 10:27SPEAKER_01: And they're like, hey, you know, uh, this is this restaurant down the street called Nescar Girl.
- 10:32SPEAKER_01: They got the greatest, greatest steak you would ever eat.
- 10:35SPEAKER_01: I'm like, this is not football.
- 10:39SPEAKER_01: And, you know, things that happened, like Odell Buckham, unfortunately, he got hurt.
- 10:44SPEAKER_01: Like, this was all in the Bengals in their favor to win the game.
- 10:49SPEAKER_01: Odell, Odell Beckham gets hurt.
- 10:52SPEAKER_01: Uh Matt, or no, no, no, it's Matt Stafford, threw two interceptions.
- 10:56SPEAKER_01: Halftime is 13 to 10, and he's and he throws two picks.
- 11:00SPEAKER_01: And they come out, score a touchdown, get an interception.
- 11:04SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, if you get that interception and you score that touchdown, this game is over.
- 11:12SPEAKER_01: And then the thing is that the Rams, even they even tried their own trick plays, they didn't work.
- 11:17SPEAKER_01: And then all they had was Cooper Cup.
- 11:20SPEAKER_01: Now, I don't, you know, I'm not going to be judging anybody, but when I saw Cooper Cup, yo, who's worried about Cooper Cup?
- 11:28SPEAKER_01: I'm not worried about Cooper Cup.
- 11:29SPEAKER_01: Why are the Bengals?
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: Why are the Bengals worried about Cooper Cup?
- 11:33SPEAKER_01: The Bengals shouldn't be worried about Cooper Cup.
- 11:34SPEAKER_01: Maybe that's why he got off and won the uh Super Bowl MVP and all that.
- 11:39SPEAKER_01: But I was like, yo, you know, I was like, wait a minute.
- 11:42SPEAKER_01: Why the Bengals didn't win this?
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: Why didn't the Bengals win this?
- 11:47SPEAKER_01: They should they had this was if they were gonna win this one Super Bowl, this was it.
- 11:52SPEAKER_01: Now, I don't I don't blame the 80, 88, 89 Bengals because they were playing against the great one of the greatest teams in the NFL history with the 49ers with Joe Montana, Jerry Weiss, John Taylor, Roger Craig.
- 12:03SPEAKER_01: I could name that Ronnie Lott.
- 12:04SPEAKER_01: I could probably name that team because I used to I'm still a 49ers fan deep down.
- 12:10SPEAKER_01: And you know, you can't win them all.
- 12:12SPEAKER_01: But this one they should have won.
- 12:14SPEAKER_01: And you know, things happen.
- 12:16SPEAKER_01: I get it.
- 12:17SPEAKER_01: You know, and then also Joe Burrow, he gets he get he injures his other knee.
- 12:22SPEAKER_01: So you still got time.
- 12:24SPEAKER_01: You notice your star quarterback gets hurt, but uh you don't take him out.
- 12:31SPEAKER_01: And this is some of the things I ask Bengals fans, you know, after the Super Bowl.
- 12:36SPEAKER_01: Like, do you take Burrow out those last five, six minutes and give it to what's his name?
- 12:40SPEAKER_01: Brandon Allen, the backup, just to try to win the game, because you lose the mobility of a quarterback.
- 12:46SPEAKER_01: That's why the Rams ran eight.
- 12:48SPEAKER_01: They ran eight people.
- 12:49SPEAKER_01: Because they know well, he ain't going nowhere.
- 12:52SPEAKER_01: He ain't going out of that pocket.
- 12:54SPEAKER_01: So we might as well rush eight.
- 12:55SPEAKER_01: And of course, that's what happened.
- 12:57SPEAKER_01: All the sacks, and you know, Joe Burrow, thank you for getting him there that far.
- 13:03SPEAKER_01: But as a coach, I think you gotta make tough calls.
- 13:07SPEAKER_01: Hey, look, your knees hurt, we need you, but I gotta get this guy.
- 13:11SPEAKER_01: I gotta at least gotta have a chance to have a mobile quarterback so we can at least have some time in the pocket to get the wide receivers open and all that stuff.
- 13:19SPEAKER_01: So the end of the result, yes, the Bengals lost 23 to 20 in Super Bowl 56.
- 13:25SPEAKER_01: And then the the so you know, after they lost, I'm asking people, oh, how do you feel?
- 13:30SPEAKER_01: How do you feel?
- 13:32SPEAKER_01: They're like, we'll be back.
- 13:33SPEAKER_01: And then I'm like, wait a minute.
- 13:35SPEAKER_01: Do you realize how hard it is to repeat that much success?
- 13:40SPEAKER_01: This is the same thing I heard in 88, 88, and 89.
- 13:43SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, we'll be back.
- 13:44SPEAKER_01: You know, we got Boomer Syerson, Icky Woods, Anthony Munoz, all these great bangle players.
- 13:51SPEAKER_01: We'll be back.
- 13:52SPEAKER_01: They didn't go back for another 33 years.
- 13:55SPEAKER_01: 33 years.
- 13:56SPEAKER_01: That's a that's a grown adult if they were born in 88, 89.
- 14:01SPEAKER_01: They have never experienced bangle success.
- 14:04SPEAKER_01: If you were born in, and take it back to when I was born.
- 14:07SPEAKER_01: They ain't done squat.
- 14:09SPEAKER_01: Yes, they made a Super Bowl this year.
- 14:12SPEAKER_01: Do you really think do you really think that the Bengals can go back next year?
- 14:18SPEAKER_01: Again, all these problems happen because my opinion is because my I don't want to pay for these players.
- 14:26SPEAKER_01: I mean, again, I've I read I hashed this already in a previous episode.
- 14:30SPEAKER_01: The Bengals is the only team that doesn't have an indoor facility.
- 14:34SPEAKER_01: But now they're talking about an indoor facility.
- 14:36SPEAKER_01: Now they're talking about an inflatable indoor facility.
- 14:39SPEAKER_01: What took so long?
- 14:40SPEAKER_01: You kidding me?
- 14:41SPEAKER_01: Are you you you you plan for it after the success?
- 14:46SPEAKER_01: Well, what about planning for success, Mike Brown?
- 14:48SPEAKER_01: See, this is why I'm a divorce man.
- 14:50SPEAKER_01: I can't stand Mike Brown.
- 14:52SPEAKER_01: Why are you making these decisions afterwards?
- 14:55SPEAKER_01: You had they're like, well, we have the talent now.
- 14:57SPEAKER_01: We had the talent back in the 2000s with Carson Palmer, Chad Ochocinko, TJ Hushmanjada, Rudy Johnson, Corey Dillon.
- 15:06SPEAKER_01: We had the talent.
- 15:07SPEAKER_01: And he decided not to put the money in it because people were still supporting the Bengals.
- 15:11SPEAKER_01: So now, rewind to fast forward to 2022, 2021, 2022.
- 15:17SPEAKER_01: He's now he's wanna now he wants to do this.
- 15:19SPEAKER_01: And I don't understand why he didn't do this before.
- 15:21SPEAKER_01: He's the he's the worst, the worst owner in NFL history.
- 15:26SPEAKER_01: And I will fight you for that.
- 15:28SPEAKER_01: I honestly would.
- 15:29SPEAKER_01: I don't so now they're talking about, okay, so let's rewind.
- 15:33SPEAKER_01: They got the uh indoor facility talk going right now.
- 15:36SPEAKER_01: They just they the the problem the Bengals had was the offensive line.
- 15:40SPEAKER_01: They just completely restructured that.
- 15:44SPEAKER_01: And you know, more props to them, but let's let's be real.
- 15:48SPEAKER_01: Cleveland just got Deshaun Watson as a quarterback, right?
- 15:53SPEAKER_01: That's the problem.
- 15:54SPEAKER_01: No matter how you look, even if he plays half a season, he gets to play, he gets to play the Bengals at least once.
- 15:59SPEAKER_01: And you can't you could you could say Deshaun is a better quarterback than Baker, Baker Mayfield.
- 16:05SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 16:06SPEAKER_01: Lamar Jackson, he was hurt this year this past season.
- 16:09SPEAKER_01: You think he's gonna be hurt again this season?
- 16:11SPEAKER_01: He didn't, I don't think I don't think I think he played him once.
- 16:15SPEAKER_01: You think you think that's gonna happen again?
- 16:17SPEAKER_01: No.
- 16:18SPEAKER_01: The Ravens will get better.
- 16:19SPEAKER_01: And let's let's let's not talk about Pittsburgh.
- 16:21SPEAKER_01: Pittsburgh had a mediocre season, the first time in what, 15 years?
- 16:27SPEAKER_01: And it was still, I think, I and don't quote me, I still think they had a winning season this year.
- 16:32SPEAKER_01: They just didn't make the playoffs.
- 16:34SPEAKER_01: You think that's gonna happen again?
- 16:36SPEAKER_01: Let's add the fact that Russell Wilson has left the NFC to go to the AFC with the Denver Broncos.
- 16:43SPEAKER_01: Matt Ryan left the NFC for the AFC for the Indianapolis Colts.
- 16:49SPEAKER_01: I don't think the I mean, listen, I would hope and pray the Bengals can go back through the Super Bowl and win one before I die.
- 16:57SPEAKER_01: But I'm not getting I'm not gonna gamble on that.
- 16:59SPEAKER_01: I don't think so.
- 17:00SPEAKER_01: Because the thing that again, as a divorce fan, we know what's gonna happen when those contracts come up for uh T.
- 17:08SPEAKER_01: Higgins, uh Mixon, Joe Burrow.
- 17:13SPEAKER_01: I can't think of the other guy.
- 17:17SPEAKER_01: The other wide receiver.
- 17:19SPEAKER_01: You know, though those contracts can come up.
- 17:21SPEAKER_01: Do y'all think he's gonna pay him?
- 17:23SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you look at the history of the Bengals, they don't pay nobody.
- 17:28SPEAKER_01: Again, Mike Brown is the worst, the worst owner in the NFL.
- 17:34SPEAKER_01: And that says a lot.
- 17:35SPEAKER_01: I mean, look at the Washington Redskins, for example.
- 17:37SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm sorry, Washington Commanders and their owner who had to all the stuff that he's doing is just crazy.
- 17:47SPEAKER_01: But I digress.
- 17:49SPEAKER_01: Let's hope the Bengals do good this next year, next season.
- 17:52SPEAKER_01: But I'm telling these Bengals fans right now, don't expect your expectations are too high.
- 17:57SPEAKER_01: Too high going into next year.
- 18:00SPEAKER_01: So that's the quick episode of episode 11, which is titled The Cincinnati Bengals Bungled the Super Bowl.
- 18:06SPEAKER_01: Hey, the quick one.
- 18:08SPEAKER_01: It didn't need to be that long because you it's the it's the actual Cincinnati Bengals we're talking about.
- 18:12SPEAKER_01: So with that being said, we're gonna cut this episode out.
- 18:16SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Michael Gillespie, WDYM.
- 18:20SPEAKER_01: Guys, take care.
- 18:21SPEAKER_01: Peace.