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5-18-26 Hour 1 - Stanley Cup is the hardest to win/Should Jokic be more involved?/Shams spoils MVP party · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardi and Kane on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: You know, like every year I've been here, after my
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  Speaker 2: second year, it's like Copper Bust, Copper bus, Well, we've
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  Speaker 2: won one cup. It's hard to win. Okay. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: want it any other way, but I don't think our
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  Speaker 2: players would want it any other way. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: the players that join our team at the deadline, the
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  Speaker 2: guys that have been here for years, would want it
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  Speaker 2: any other way. Now, you're leaving yourself open to a
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  Speaker 2: lot of criticism because it's always just like Copper Bust
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  Speaker 2: and every time you lose in the first round, second round,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is. You know, people are gonna get on
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  Speaker 2: you because you didn't win the Cup. But I'd still
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  Speaker 2: rather be fighting for that, like having earned that type
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  Speaker 2: of reputation because of the way you play in the
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  Speaker 2: through the regular season and the group that you put
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  Speaker 2: together as an organization and the high expectations rather than well,
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  Speaker 2: let's just try and make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: You know, all right, welcome in a couple of days away,
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  Speaker 3: from Game one of the Western Conference Final against Vegas.
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  Speaker 4: The news from over the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Basically had guys that were missing some practice time, the
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  Speaker 3: more usual suspects, I guess you could call them. But
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  Speaker 3: d Mak did say that Manson Malinsky didn't practice with
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  Speaker 3: the team on Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: They were both a full go yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Malinsky was in a no contact red sweater when he
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  Speaker 3: skated on Saturday. Manson skated before the practice on Saturday too.
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  Speaker 3: The big concern that we all have, I think, to
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  Speaker 3: be clear, mo is Kale and what's going on with
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  Speaker 3: correct And we don't know what's going on with Klee,
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  Speaker 3: but he is the main thrust of any sort of
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  Speaker 3: concern heading into game one in a couple of days.
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  Speaker 5: Would you like to learn a little bit more today?
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  Speaker 6: I would love to hell, you know, I went through
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  Speaker 6: the Vegas lineup, and I understand that they didn't do
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  Speaker 6: anything close to what the Avs did this season, but
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  Speaker 6: they've also won fifteen of their last twenty games.
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  Speaker 4: They got some ballish they.
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  Speaker 7: Do the absolutely Do you want to learn a little
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  Speaker 7: bit more today? Yeah, Well, too bad, because they're not
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  Speaker 7: practicing today, gotcha. So you're gonna have to wait until tomorrow.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I'm you sure they will get together, and
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  Speaker 7: maybe they will. Maybe Today's just a total day off
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  Speaker 7: after a couple three hard days of practice, right, a
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  Speaker 7: couple hard days of practice. Great, but they ain't meeting
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  Speaker 7: with us, certainly, and they're not meeting with you. They're
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  Speaker 7: not gonna call out Hey. I wish Brett came would
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  Speaker 7: come over here and talk to us. They ain't doing
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  Speaker 7: that well.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is the benefit, though, of what you have.
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  Speaker 3: By taking care of your business, you get this long
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  Speaker 3: extended break and chances for guys to get rested and
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  Speaker 3: healthy because you've earned the right to do so. Like
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  Speaker 3: it still blows me away. Moje just looked this up.
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  Speaker 3: So game seven tonight between Buffalo and Montreal. The last
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  Speaker 3: game that Carolina played was on May ninth. Correct, they
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  Speaker 3: will not play. They already have their series start. No
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  Speaker 3: matter what happens tonight until.
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  Speaker 4: Thursday, it'll be twelve days off. That's crazy, that's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 5: That is crazy.
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  Speaker 7: Well, you have one team that won in a well
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  Speaker 7: one team. They because they won their first round series
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  Speaker 7: the way they did in the sweep, they were able
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  Speaker 7: to start their second round series faster as soon as Philly.
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  Speaker 7: As soon as Philly finished up with Pittsburgh, they were
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  Speaker 7: often running for round two.
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  Speaker 5: You sweep that one means awhile is that even means?
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  Speaker 4: Did you say meets to meets while meets missed, missed?
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  Speaker 5: While I'll show you meets while you want some meats?
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  Speaker 4: While are you missed the outside right now, I'll give.
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  Speaker 7: You some meats while meanwhile in the ernst while something
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  Speaker 7: with an nst in there in some sort.
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  Speaker 5: Of while the uh, the other series.
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  Speaker 7: Is going seven, you know, but longing in seven and
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  Speaker 7: then it's like, Okay, hang out and do your thing,
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  Speaker 7: you know. But I'll tell you what though, I don't
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  Speaker 7: care what anybody says about this quote Avalanche rest this time.
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  Speaker 5: This is good. Yes, bills are good. You know, bills
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  Speaker 5: are good.
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  Speaker 3: Thinking about something that Ben nar said over the weekend,
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  Speaker 3: and he's so right. We talk about this all the time.
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  Speaker 3: But it's what does it take to win a title?
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  Speaker 3: What does it take to win a championship? What does
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  Speaker 3: it take to win a cup? And it takes everything.
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  Speaker 3: It's not just that your team's good, it's all of it.
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  Speaker 2: But it's partly why I think it's the hardest trophy
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  Speaker 2: to win is just because of the grind of it all.
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  Speaker 2: So not only do you have to be good, you
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  Speaker 2: got to be lucky. You got to be healthy, you
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  Speaker 2: got to be tough playing through injuries, you got to
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  Speaker 2: be mentally tough, because it's a grind every day. Because
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  Speaker 2: it feels like every game is a Game seven. You know,
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  Speaker 2: like I got to ask a bunch of questions last round. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you know this is a close out game at home.
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  Speaker 2: What makes it different from you know, game one or
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  Speaker 2: And the answer truly is nothing there. Every game feels
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  Speaker 2: like it's game seven and that you need to win it.
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  Speaker 4: It's so true. You need to be good to give
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  Speaker 4: yourself an opportunity, right, but.
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  Speaker 3: You need to be lucky. We'll know anything that's one
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  Speaker 3: a title will tell you they have been lucky.
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  Speaker 5: Let's vic, where's your magic pen? Which one? You have
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  Speaker 5: a magic pen that you write stuff down with all
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  Speaker 5: the time.
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  Speaker 4: I have a pen in my hand.
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  Speaker 5: That's the one.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, Nelly, if you would please let's list these out
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  Speaker 7: one more time?
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  Speaker 5: Can we do that one more time?
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  Speaker 7: Your team's got to be good because I want to
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  Speaker 7: reiterate this to all the fans out there, because I know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why I'm trying.
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  Speaker 7: To convince people who don't want to be convinced though,
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  Speaker 7: you know, I mean, look this down yet just what
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  Speaker 7: I say, Oh no, go through.
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  Speaker 5: Can we go through Beds again, or through.
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  Speaker 3: Brett or Nelly if you can, If you can pull
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  Speaker 3: it up and do the start and stop, we can
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  Speaker 3: do it that way.
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  Speaker 5: But because he ate.
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  Speaker 4: Wrong, all.
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  Speaker 3: Go back and find the Bednard cut Stanley cup hard
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  Speaker 3: is to win and just start where he says all
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  Speaker 3: the different things that you need, because the first thing
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  Speaker 3: he starts with is you have to be good, which
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  Speaker 3: is an obvious and given. You have to be a
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  Speaker 3: good team. So Nellie, whenever you find it, let me
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  Speaker 3: know and we'll start from there. Because that is true.
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  Speaker 3: You want to get in the dance, your team has
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  Speaker 3: to be talented.
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  Speaker 5: This is where we teach. This is a teaching moment,
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  Speaker 5: Professor Vick.
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  Speaker 4: Tell me when I'm supposed to start.
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  Speaker 3: Writing, I'm waiting for Nelly to get this pulled up.
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  Speaker 3: Nell he's troubleshooting things.
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  Speaker 5: He was obviously in slow motion today.
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  Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, he's not in so motion
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  Speaker 3: now he's doing eight things at once.
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  Speaker 4: You can't get on for that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Jason was back there. How was that go ahead?
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  Speaker 2: And nelly at all? So not only do you have
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  Speaker 2: to be good, you.
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  Speaker 4: Have good Write that down, Vick, you got it good.
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  Speaker 5: Next.
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  Speaker 2: Oh so, not only do you have to be good,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta be lucky.
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  Speaker 4: It's not lucky. You gotta be lucky, not lucky, not lucky.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you can be lucky, but mostly you need lucky.
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  Speaker 5: Lucky does make you lucky. I like that.
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  Speaker 3: It's your lucky makes you lucky, Lucky as matchups, lucky
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  Speaker 3: as health of your opposing team. Lucky is getting the
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  Speaker 3: right bounces, Lucky is being hot at the right time.
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  Speaker 4: It's all different. Rather be lucky than lucky.
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  Speaker 2: Put that on a shirt. Lame.
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  Speaker 4: What's next?
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  Speaker 2: You got to be healthy.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta be healthy. And this is this major fact.
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  Speaker 5: I can't explain to you how big this is. Did
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  Speaker 5: you see the list of Philly, Poor Philly.
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  Speaker 7: So Philly grinds it out against Pittsburgh, right, they got
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  Speaker 7: no time to rest.
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  Speaker 5: They get right into Carolina.
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  Speaker 7: You saw the list of guys who are going off
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  Speaker 7: for surgery and whatnot, broken fibula, internal bleeding, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it's like broken ribs, broken wrist. All these
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  Speaker 7: guys are playing with this stuff. You're like, how do
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  Speaker 7: you play with the broken wrist?
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  Speaker 5: You know what you do?
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  Speaker 4: You tape it really hard and you shoot it up,
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  Speaker 4: which takes us too.
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  Speaker 2: You got to be tough, keep going a little bit
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  Speaker 2: longer playing through injuries. He guys mentally tough.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so physically tough and mentally tough.
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  Speaker 5: It's not wrong, all right.
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  Speaker 4: Continue was that it tough.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's a grind every day, because it feels like
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  Speaker 2: every game is a game. Yes, that's it.
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  Speaker 4: You need all those things.
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  Speaker 3: And here's the nice thing is that we don't have
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  Speaker 3: this quote, but I heard this over the week.
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  Speaker 7: That's big magic list though. Right there, got it? Okay,
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  Speaker 7: I got it all.
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  Speaker 4: I'll keep it.
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  Speaker 3: He talked about how there's a hunger and I think
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  Speaker 3: this goes to the mental toughness part. There's a hunger
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  Speaker 3: within this team that he felt after they lost in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty one that it was just a different feel
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  Speaker 3: going into the next year because they felt the disappointment.
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  Speaker 3: They wanted to make sure they didn't feel that again.
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  Speaker 3: You had that last year, that Game seven that you
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  Speaker 3: had the lead. It was right there yours for the taking.
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  Speaker 5: What was the difference, What was.
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  Speaker 7: The difference in that game the third period of Game seven?
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  Speaker 7: Because you wanted it, you were you were, you were
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  Speaker 7: a driven club? What was the difference? Brett?
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  Speaker 4: Is it special teams? I mean that was the over
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  Speaker 4: the course of the series.
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  Speaker 7: Of all those things that Bennar listed out there, which
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  Speaker 7: one took over the most.
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  Speaker 4: Lucky?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my opinion.
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  Speaker 7: Ranson and throwing himself into the end boards, just throwing
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  Speaker 7: a puck up ice and at ricochets off Gerard skating
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  Speaker 7: in is pretty frigging lucky. You can say, well, he
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  Speaker 7: had to book on his stick and he's still made
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  Speaker 7: it play. He ran himself into the end boards and
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  Speaker 7: got rid of it. Sure he wasn't even passing it
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  Speaker 7: to any but there was nobody there. He just threw
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  Speaker 7: it up the ice and it hit Gerard Skate. I
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  Speaker 7: don't want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: Sounds like it cool, carl By all means keep it in.
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  Speaker 4: I heard somebody speak with such passion. Then I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 5: Hold on. Then he throws in an empty netter.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, what a hat trick. He had one
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  Speaker 4: great goal, all right.
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  Speaker 5: Dude, that pisses me off. Sorry, excuse my language, kiddies.
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  Speaker 4: Here's what's funny, though.
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  Speaker 3: He goes on to say this, and this is the
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  Speaker 3: biggest truth at all.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember in twenty twenty two, like what, we
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  Speaker 2: were sixteen and four, and it felt like when it
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  Speaker 2: was done, it felt like every game was must win,
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  Speaker 2: and we lost four games the whole playoffs. People outside
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  Speaker 2: of the competition would be like, well, we went sixteen
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  Speaker 2: and four, like, obviously, wasn't that hard. When you're going
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  Speaker 2: through it, it certainly feels hard, you know, And that's
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  Speaker 2: the stress of the playoffs and expectations. It's the It's
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  Speaker 2: just you know how one period or one game can
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  Speaker 2: be the difference from the swing of momentum. So you
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  Speaker 2: just feel like you're constantly under stressed. So it's exhausting.
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  Speaker 6: The as are can hard and exhausting on this list, Sure, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: do that too.
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  Speaker 5: I like that you add on you know what, you
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  Speaker 5: have cart blots to add on.
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  Speaker 3: The ads are eight and one so far in this
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  Speaker 3: playoff run, and it felt like I've had heart palpitations
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  Speaker 3: every single game, so weird, Like he's so right, you
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  Speaker 3: go sixteen and four outside looking at it and like, man,
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  Speaker 3: you breeze through.
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  Speaker 4: The playoffs to a championship, didn't you. I was like,
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  Speaker 4: didn't feel like it.
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  Speaker 7: And that's why the reverse is also true. You can
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  Speaker 7: have a very good club and you lose in Game
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  Speaker 7: seven in the third period, right because Babba, that's how
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  Speaker 7: slim the margin is sometimes between winning and losing. And
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  Speaker 7: we look at the sixteen and four run. How many
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  Speaker 7: games in that sixteen and four run, Brett outside the
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  Speaker 7: four were dicey.
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  Speaker 5: All of them?
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  Speaker 4: Not all of them, but I felt it felt it
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  Speaker 4: felt like it.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, look at the look at look at the
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  Speaker 7: clinching game in Game six in Tampa.
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  Speaker 5: Tight tight, tight, tight tight.
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  Speaker 3: Let me see go back and look, so you're talking
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  Speaker 3: about here's what's gonna be tough reading this. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how empty netters are gonna into this thing. I
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  Speaker 3: can't remember them.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 6: You can go sixteen to zero in a Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 6: run and it can feel tight.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not sure it feels that way for Carolina
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  Speaker 7: right now, because they've just been rolling over teams. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: they got Ottawa in round one and they gotta beat
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  Speaker 7: the hell Philly team. The problem with Philly is they
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  Speaker 7: were so emotionally high and beat up after that long
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  Speaker 7: win over Pittsburgh. Yeah, Battle of Pennsylvania. They had nothing
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  Speaker 7: in the tank for Game one against Carolina, and then
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  Speaker 7: once they lost that, once they got behind like that,
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  Speaker 7: they were never gonna catch up.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm looking at first round against Nashville was
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  Speaker 3: pretty easy. There was a two to one overtime winning
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  Speaker 3: Game two, correct, and then five three to close it
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  Speaker 3: out in Game four, but that was an empty netter
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the game. So two out of
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  Speaker 3: the four I suppose Saint Louis three two overtime winning
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  Speaker 3: Game one, you lost four wonn in game two. I
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  Speaker 3: can't remember these. Five to two in game three, six
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  Speaker 3: three in game four, yeap.
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  Speaker 5: Then what happened?
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  Speaker 3: You're coming home for Game five had five to four
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  Speaker 3: overtime loss, yuck. And then the amazing finishing game six.
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  Speaker 7: Right, and that was I mean listen that almost that
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  Speaker 7: could have went to seven games, and we got a
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  Speaker 7: game seven tonight.
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  Speaker 5: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: We do.
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  Speaker 4: At Game seven in the NBA last night was a dud,
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  Speaker 4: total dud.
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  Speaker 7: I watched I sat there and watched that game, and
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  Speaker 7: I watched you cel a softball for like two hours.
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  Speaker 3: God, I's I'm filled to the brim on soft and
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  Speaker 3: I love watching softball.
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  Speaker 4: My wife's killing me though it's on Is she giving
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  Speaker 4: you play by play?
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  Speaker 5: No, it's just she.
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  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, Nebraska is good for the first
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  Speaker 4: time in for hour, and she's giving you.
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  Speaker 7: Can I say this, though, Can let me talk to
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  Speaker 7: your lovely wife independently?
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  Speaker 5: I hope she's listening. Bret's wife, give him a break.
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  Speaker 4: It's actually fine.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's like I can go to the basement, but
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  Speaker 3: on the weekends kids are at the house the whole time,
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  Speaker 3: so we have to share these spaces.
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to watch. Just give your champion, give your
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  Speaker 4: boy your break, just for a bad It's just a
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  Speaker 4: little bits. The PGA Championship was boring. I didn't think
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  Speaker 4: it was boring.
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  Speaker 5: There were so many.
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  Speaker 4: Guys that I was bored by it. There's like fifteen
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  Speaker 4: dudes within two shots.
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  Speaker 7: I'll be the judge of I was so bored. I'm
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  Speaker 7: with Vick, I was so bored. Are you guys just
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  Speaker 7: into the name value?
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  Speaker 6: I'll be the judge of what boredom is? Okay, final
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  Speaker 6: six holes, dude, I bounced off it? What for was
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  Speaker 6: nothing about the course was just that. Nothing there, nothing
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  Speaker 6: to see.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I had a good time.
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  Speaker 5: You know what, Maybe small silly things excite you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe if you have you're easily entertained. If you that's
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  Speaker 7: where your brain capacity is.
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  Speaker 6: If you had a larger perspective of what makes good
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  Speaker 6: tournament golf, perhaps you'd have a better appreciation for great
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  Speaker 6: tournament golf.
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  Speaker 5: And you don't have that yet, you know, Brett.
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  Speaker 7: If I ever have a question about your golf acumen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all I have to think you guys are anti
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  Speaker 3: Schmid's nothing.
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  Speaker 5: That's what you me.
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  Speaker 4: I have to do with an anti smallies, an anti rise.
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  Speaker 4: I like the Aaron Right story.
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  Speaker 6: I know the story, Johnny two gloffs, Yeah, I got
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  Speaker 6: I know the whole story. Working class, Yeah, sound of
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  Speaker 6: English immigrants.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 7: If I ever have a question about your golf acumen,
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  Speaker 7: all I need to do is wait five minutes, and
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  Speaker 7: you're going to reinforce it for me.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: You know, just a Sunday Major with fifteen people within
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: two shots.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: Lead, you know, late in the day. Yeah, I'm sure.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: So what did you guys do play dunk coops? I
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: know you didn't play dunk hoops? I know that because
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: it was rainy.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: Yesterday we played through anything. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: I had a nice brunch with my buddy Jim Dalton.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's so much more exciting I had. I had
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: a MO PGA champions, I had MO of my lawn.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: That was the most precise MO I've had in years.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: I feel that sounds great. Good. We got a keyword
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: for you guys. This is gets you an AVS alley
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: for the game on Wednesday. Game one, we'll.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Get to Witnes second along with Yokid should finish his
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: second in the MVP race.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Again, that's fine, we all expected that. I have a
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: deeper question about.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Is there something Yokid should do in this off season
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: that he's not done yet in his career?
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: Why are you pinching at me?
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: Also? Roll on?
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: Are the Avs going to have some unlikely allies as
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: this series wears on? I'll explain next.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: It'd be good. You gotta be lucky, You've got to
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: be healthy, you gotta be tough, you got to be
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: mentally tough.
• 16:40
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• 17:08
  Speaker 4: But the keyword for this hour is back. Do you
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: hear mister brilliant here? What day is Memorial Day? I mean, unbelievable.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: History buff What day is Memorial Day? Not only did
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: you say that AVS guy over here? Since they play Saturday?
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: I was like, no, they play Sunday.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, how lost can you beat?
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: What's the last Monday in May? What is wrong with you?
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: So it has to be the twenty fifth? That's this Monday.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: It's a week today.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: Thanks, thank you for the breaka, I told you an
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: investigative reporter over here?
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: I got you?
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: No, you don't, you got me?
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I do?
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: What were you saying about something here?
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Just hear me out for a second, because I got
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: what a great way to open is.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: What were you saying about something.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: On this radio show, this talk show.
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: We were seeing somebody one of those collaborateses coming up next.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: I think I just made too easy.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: So here's what I was thinking about. Jokicch finish his
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: second in the MVP race. Fine, we all knew that
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: was coming. What's interesting is jok is only the third
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: player in the history of the league to have six
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: straight top two finishes in the MVP.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Can he name the other two?
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: Michael Jordan No, Bill Russell, Yes, and six. I'm sorry
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: say that again, six.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Sixth straight top two No.
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: Bill Russell for sure because he won correct so many
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: Michael Jordan, No, I just said done, said Lebron James.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: No, No, I mean you have to go way back,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: all right, Magic Johnson No. Oh, but Larry Bird Larry Bird.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Larry Bird and Bill Russell are the only other two
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: outside of Yokic to finish top two in the m
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: v P.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: The only three people in the history of the NBA
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: to finish top two in the MVP voting six three years.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: Larry Bird, Bill Russell. So here was my thought. The
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: standards for Jokic are crazy because when you have this
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: level of success, you're always asking what more can you do?
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: And somehow Jokic always does more.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: He led the league in rebounds and assistant this year,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: never been done in the history of league. In fact,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: nobody has done that in separate seasons, where they've led
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: the league in rebounds one year and assists another year.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Those have always been two different players.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: But first of all, I think out of all of
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: the MVP seasons in the last six years that Jokic
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: has had, maybe this one is the one I have
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: the least gripe with because he didn't play a whole
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: lot this year, and I think I kind of understand it, okay,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: So I can throw that off to the wayside.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Here's what I was thinking about over the weekend, though.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Guys in Jokic's position, and I always say, when you
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: have a three as the first digit in your age,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: you start to feel that athletic mortality.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: It's common at some.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Point anybody who's in the category of Jokich has has
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: had and usually wielded the power that that all time
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: status gives. Lebron's done it, Durant's done it, Janis has
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: done it now, not always meaning success, but they have
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: wielded their power. Jokic has never done that. It's not
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: in his personality, but at this stage of his career
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: and in the position that the Nuggets are in, which
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: is a confounding one. Frankie said, he believes we have
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: a team that can win sixty to sixty five games
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: if we're healthy, but that all is sort of lynch
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: pinned on the idea of ag is going to be healthy.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Do you kind of force Jokic into giving input on
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: what to do? He's smart and he's unselfish. He would
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: not make decisions in his own interest. He would do
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: that for the betterment of the team. Do you kind
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: of force him into a position of Dude, you're smart,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: what do you think we need to do?
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: I think he's offered his opinion before and it's been
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: taken well into account.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Hold on a second.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: So you're saying that because Nikola Jokic is a three
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: time MVP winner and a six time top two MVP finisher,
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: that he should be more vocal in the makeup of
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: the team. Is that what you're suggesting here? Because I'm
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: not sure that's what he'd want. I don't think he
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: wants to do it. And it's the other thing I
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: want to bring up is this because I read something
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: over the weekend about how Nikolai Jokic should be more
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: vocal in how the Nuggets spend their money and how
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: much they spend.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: And I want to be very careful when I answer
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: this question.
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: That's not him, that's not him culturally, Yes, that's a
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: culture thing.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: I know this to be a fact.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: The last thing he's going to do is tell other
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: people how to spend their money.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Right, he gets paid extremely well to play basketball.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: Do you think it he believes it's his responsibility to
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: tell other people what to do.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: With their money.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Well, this is what I'm getting at here, is that
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: I know this isn't in his personality, and I know
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: that he would never do that. He sees himself, despite
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: the fact that he is the most powerful person within
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: that organization, he sees himself still as what employer. He's
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: an employee, as a player he is, And he's like,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I don't make these decisions.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: I'm here to go to work and he doesn't want
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: to make and he doesn't want to. But here's my
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: here's my point. He's so smart. We've seen it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I remember the Miami he talking about this. For everybody
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: who says he's a bad defender. They would come out
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: of timeouts and he would point, Christian.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: You go here, age.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: He set up right there because he knows what's coming
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: and he knows how to stop it. But you almost
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: force his hand into being like, dude, help me, what
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: do you think we need?
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure what you're asking for. He's great on
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: the court. He's got the mind of a genie on
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: the basketball court. It doesn't mean it doesn't mean it
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: translates to off the court. He's not suddenly a talent
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: evaluator because he knows mid game what to do with
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: the basketball. Because he can define what an opposing defense
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: is going to do, that doesn't make him a great GM.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: All I'm saying is I think there is a mounting sense.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: And I don't like to say this very often because
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I think this gets overblown at times, but I do
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: feel like there's some of this that's out there. I
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: would feel, if I'm somebody in the front office, a
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: sense of responsibility to achieve things.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: For him, if that makes sense, And you know, I'm
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: so can I put my foot down on something? Sure?
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: Because you know how much I love Nikola Jokicic and
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: what he's brought to this city. He's the greatest Nugget
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: of all time. He's one of the greatest, if not
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: the greatest Denver athlete of all time based on hardware alone.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: I can stop right there. I am so tired of
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: the following statement. Well, gotta do more to complete Nicola's legacy.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: Can't let him walk away with just one. You know what,
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: when we start talking about sports in that manner, about
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: fulfilling one person's dream, about how it's everyone. No, this
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: is a team sport. It's about the Nuggets, it's about Denver,
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: it's about the organization. Now you could say it's a
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: shame that you can't get through this with more than
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: one with this team, but I'm so tired of attaching
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: the fortunes of a franchise on one guy. I understand
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: what he means, I know who he is. I understand
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: the power of the Kolokic.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: But stop with this now. It's almost it borders on idolatry.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I think that, and most correct me if I'm wrong here.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: It's not about and it shouldn't be about individualizing the
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: success for a person, but it's more about getting the
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: most juice out of the squeeze while this here, that
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: you don't want to feel like you've wasted things when
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: you have an all timer.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: That's not gonna come around for a long time.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: This is but but.
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: This is a tricky, tricky thing because I'm gonna agree
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: with Vic that he I don't think he wants that responsibility.
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: He doesn't want to be the guy.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: He doesn't think anyone's deserving of that. I mean, Oh,
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: poor Johannis in Milwaukee, Oh poor this, poor that. You
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: know what, man Again, I'm gonna make this very clear,
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: because I don't know how much more clear I can
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: make it. The Denver Nuggets won a championship here. The
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: Denver Nuggets under his leadership, brought a championship to Denver.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: And a lot of you are gonna sit it home
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: and say what a waste.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Not me, Not me.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna sit home.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: And say, thank god it happened before I died, because
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: I never thought there would.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Be one agreed.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: But if you guys could sit there and cry all
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: you want, I ain't.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: It.
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: But in the quest for another one, in the quest
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: for an additional one, I know that he's had his
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: input heard before. I know that, But I don't think
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: he wants to be the guy that's out in out.
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: He's the so furthest thing from Lebron and I want
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: him out.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: I want him out. I want him out, I want
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: him in.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: I want to He's the furthest thing from that, I'm sure. Look,
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: I know he's offered up his opinion. It's been heard,
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: but it's not decision making. It's just a little opinion
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: here or there. That being said, Yeah, man, if it
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: comes down to it and you're trying to squeeze as
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: much juice out of that last orange as you possibly can,
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: if he if he has an opinion and he wants
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: something done, I would do it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Question is can you That's the thing is.
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: But but you're you're you're you're asking a horse to
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: change his stripes.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: You know, it's something like that. Let me tell you
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: how horse of a different color.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: How a guy like Nicola operates, Because I think I've
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: gotten to know him extremely well. All right, not as
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: well as many in that organization, but I've known him
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: for a long time and.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: I know him well. Here's how he operates.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: He's not an aggressive Hey, we have to get rid
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: of this guy. He's not that dude.
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: He doesn't go out of the front office and say
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: I don't like what this guy brings to the locker room. However,
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: if asked, he'll provide his opinion. If pressed, he'll tell
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: them what he thinks.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's who he is. He's not a let me
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: run the operation guy. He's not.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: No, I agree with you, and it's never going to
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: be in his personality. Here's I guess where my mind's at.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: I listened to the end of the season presser. I
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: don't blame them for being this way because it's a
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: very difficult spot to be in. Did they sound like
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: they had a clear direction of what they're going to
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: do this offseason?
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Do they have a clear direction? I think they do,
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: but take you know what their direction is. But I
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: think they do. Okay, I think they know what they're
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: gonna do or try to do. Here's what it sounded
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: like to me. If ag stays healthy, this team is
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: championship level, and I don't know if I want to
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: mess with that.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: What we might mess with that, sure.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: But if we can't find somebody to do the deal
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: with us, then we can't really mess with it. Then
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: That's what it sounded like. To me, there's a whole
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: bunch of ifs and hands and butts and what ifs
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: and all that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: That's such a huge if.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: No, No, I understand most, but that's my question.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm getting at is maybe this is the
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: time that I go to Joker and I'm like, what
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: do you think we should do? That's all I'm saying, Like,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: get your input on this situation because it is a
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: tough spot to be in. You're pressed up against the cap.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: You know you're gonna lose a couple of guys from
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: this roster. How should we go about this? And what
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: do you think is the best route? Because I trust
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: your basketball acumen and you have the biggest helping hand
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: in anything. You will respond for ninety of the things
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: that we do on the court. That's all I'm getting at.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: Listen, I know that big decisions that are made, there's
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: always a conversation to be had with your best player.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: But he doesn't make the decision. He advises, he offers input,
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: he'll provide his own opinion, but those decisions are not
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: made by him, nor do they want to be made
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: by him.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: It's not who he is. It's a cultural thing.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you right now who he is and where
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: he's from. That's not his job, nor does he want
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: it to be.
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: Now, if you're talking about this, if you're talking about
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: persuading guys to come play for the Denver Nuggets, Let's
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: say you've got a couple of guys on the vet
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: minimum who are gone, and you see pieces out there
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: that you think you might like to acquire to go
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: for a run. Sure, could you say, Hey, can you
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: get on the phone from Sambor and call these guys?
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: You know that sort of thing. What's weird to me
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: is I don't know.
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think that some guys are I don't
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: know how many guys are like, oh man, I want
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: to go play with Joker.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: I don't know that he holds. I think everybody realizes
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: how great he is. But it's the same kind of
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: influence and weight around the league as other players had.
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: I don't know where this conversation is going or why
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: you brought it up, but I'm going to stick to
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: my guns. The day the season ended, the next show,
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: I think it was a Monday show. I came on
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: these airwaves, I turned on this microphone.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: And I said to both of you, I said, the
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: most likely result of this, it's going to be a
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: season that you may have to take a step back
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: to take two steps forward.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Remember when I said that? Absolutely, and everybody looked at
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: me with eyes or eye open. What do you mean?
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: No, I didn't disagree with you. I did not disagree
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: with you.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: But do you all understand where I'm coming from on that?
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: I do because of the financial circumstances in place, because
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: because of all the question Mark's health in place, because
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: of where they are, they're so restricted, they're so.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Hot eyed, it's pretzeled.
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you the best move forward in my eyes,
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: and season ticket holders don't want to hear this, fans
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: don't want to hear this, but I think it's the
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: only way out.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: You take a step back to move forward. Look at
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: the conference, Look at your division, agreed, look at I mean,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: what what do you think you're going to do?
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: It's going to take a different kind of reload. Yeah,
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: what do you agree?
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: What do you think is going to happen here?
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: Last thing to go on this vic for a guy to
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: finish in the top two six years in a row.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: I remember when.
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: Cale mccarr was just a rookie, and I remember watching
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: these numbers start to tick up, tick up, tick up,
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: tick up, and then okay, pois per game or does
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: he slot this first? You know, eighty games as a
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: probe you know, first two hundred games as a pro.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Where is he slot?
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: And all the names around him are the usual Hall
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: of Fame iconic subjects, right sure, the Bobby Ors and
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: Paul Coffees and Brian Leech and I mean all these
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: different superstars.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: I mean just.
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: The royalty of hockey. And then one day and I
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: don't know what it was, maybe four or five years,
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: I don't know what it was, I just go, you
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: know what, I'm going to have to accept that this
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: is who this guy is because I can't put him.
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: There's no way I can slought him in here. Yet
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: now I thought of myself, I just need to accept the.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: Fact that he's that guy.
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, when I look at Joker and all these
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: things ain't none since Wilt and he's the only guy
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: to finish in the top two six times besides Russell
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: and Byrd. Dude, when it's all over, we are going
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: to have to This is the amazing part. Yeah, we
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: are going to have to look and go, Damn, he's well,
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: he's a monst.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: This Textra says it best Textra two three to zero two.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: What are we talking about here? We've been dogging Lebron
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: for doing exactly what you're talking about doing here, and
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: this Texter is right, Brett, you're asking Joker to be
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: more vocal about making moves and doing all this stuff.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: I don't like that.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: I don't like when players suddenly believe they run the team.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: I think Joker knows exactly who he is. He's a
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: great generational player and that's it. He doesn't run this team,
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: and nor should he can.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: I just point of there's a difference, point of correction,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Lebron does things for Lebron.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Well what would this be then, yo Kich?
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: You know as well as I would when Yokich gives
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: if he were to give input on things that he
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: thinks should happen.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Sure, he's not bringing his.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Boys to the rocks, understood, but he's doing it through
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: the guys of this will make the teamat.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: But what I don't like is that this narrative that
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: exists out there, oh Man spoiling Joker's career spoiling.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: This Joker's fine. He's gonna make seventy million dollars a year.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: He's a three time MVP with a championship bringing Denver
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: Colorado stop with this.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Spoiler in his career.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: It's a poorly worded way of saying. And this I
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: do agree with. When you get an all timer, a
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: guy will finish top whatever number you want to put
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: on it. Did you get the most out of his
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: career for the franchise? That's a different thing than you're
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: ruining that.
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: I agree, But when you cross the line to oh
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: woe is me, poor joker.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: He's a vine. Yeah, that's a that's a that's ridiculous.
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: And the last thing, let's talking about the Nuggets saying
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: he Nicola, I.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Want help, that's all not you run the team. What
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: do you think the way it works in l A
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: is that's Lebron. Yeah, I need this, this and this
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: and this and that's.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: All there is to there's a different you want to
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: know the funniest, the funniest narrative that exists out there.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: And this is the last thing I'll say for break
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: when everybody says, oh what if? What if Nicola Joka
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: just walks and goes back to his horse farm.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you seventy million reasons why he ain't
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: doing that any time yet.
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: And if you think any human being is going to
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: walk away from that money when it's what's right there
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: and accessible, you crazy.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Well this is it, Textra says in one of the pressers,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Joki said it wasn't for him to decide it's above
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: his pay grade.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: That's where I disagree. I don't think it's above your
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: pay grade.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: You're the highest paid player or person within that organization
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: outside the owner, like you should have at least a
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: little bit to say.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: So.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Reminder, keyword for this hour is back, So text that
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: your first and last name in three zero three five
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: four h nine to two five back after this? Hey,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: can I say one thing real quick regarding the weird
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: thing yesterday?
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: I'm up. It's I don't know, before eight o'clock in
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: the morning.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I have two small children in my living room as
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: I have golf on television.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Just the oldest father move ever.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: First time abe English player has one the PGA since
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: nineteen nineteen.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Look at my phone and it says that Shay won
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: the MVP and.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I go, it seems like a weird way to announce
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: the NBA MVP.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: It's a big deal.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: You have a whole.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Show about it. Yeah, an early Sunday morning. I was like, man,
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: that's that's odd.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: And then I found out that that was supposed to
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: be announced on Amazon before Game seven and it was
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: just kind of spoiled by Chams where Amazon Prime said this.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: I now, just to be clear, the official announcement is
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: happening here, Dirk and Steve, you all both want MVPs.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: But I don't remember Seams spoiling it way back then.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: A shot was a baby.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Then what are we doing? Man, it's Sunday, Shams go
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: to brunch, you heard come on?
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: So I get a theory towards this.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I don't think this is Sham's just being breaking news
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: guy tweeting out the breaking news to the second he
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: gets it. I think that ESPN has been partners with
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: the NBA for a long time, realized that they're throwing
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: a bone to this new partner giving them the MVP announcement.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: They said, no, chums, you throw that out there in
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: the morning, and we're going to talk about this on
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: television for twelve hours before Amazon starts a broadcast.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: I think it was a shot at him.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: You think ESPN took a veiled, not so veiled shot
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: at Amazon Prime.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: If ESPN had the announcement, if they had this game seven,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: would he have been allowed He tweeted that at seven
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: thirty in the morning mountain time he has before.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Do you think he would have done it? I don't know.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: That's a great question, that really is. It's a great question.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: Perhaps their corporate leaders would have said, Hey, let's let's
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: leave this suspense to the television show.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Let's let's let our television show break the news.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Who like the CFP results? I tee.
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: Somebody had those before they went to television. Oh you
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: don't think that, Heather Dinnitt.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Sure, anybody that's a big college football name has that already.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Who is the host there, Taylor Rooks.
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: She's like, let's just be this is the official announcement. Now,
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: I know you heard it twelve hours early, right, Yeah,
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: I know it's been. It's been on social media around
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: the world eighty seven times in the last twelve hours.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: But this is the official That's That's sad.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I feel like my theory is way more plausible than
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: the one that's been floating around the internet, which is
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Sham's had a scheduled tweet and he hit am instead
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: of you.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I thought about that.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: How does shams get it?
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he probably had that for a while.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: He got it.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you how exactly how.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: He gets it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: He gets it from SGA's agent, Proga's people who notified
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: him that he won the award and listen, man.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: Is there anybody to keep that under rap? Stough vicked
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: all as well? Is there any humanly.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Way we didn't know you until they got the show.
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: You're right, strategically speaking, there's a reason he put that
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: out there.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: I think there was less drama with this. No one's
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: surprised that SGA was won.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: Right, if this would really come, if it came down
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: to the final minute and like, oh my god, we
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: don't know who's going to win, perhaps it's a different result.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: I think because there was anti climactic results here is
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: one of the reasons he tweeted it early. I think,
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: now do I think it's what do you gain from that?
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, these newsmakers, Chefty Cham's.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: Who's the baseball guy? I don't know one of those dudes.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: What I understand getting getting news out there early, But
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: what's the tim what's the point of this one? What's
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: the point of this one?
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Like you guys asked me, I have the Broncos schedule
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: every year, right, every year. I've got the Broncos schedule
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: my name. That's not for me to release I that's team.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: But he did, but he did. I know, forget why
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: why why do you need to.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Get that out because I think they get twelve hours
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: to talk about it before him is on Prime.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: It gets twelve hours ESPN. Did you go to DESPN
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: to watch No? Okay, I didn't care what most when
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: when he tweeted it did of course not.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: So I don't buy that either. I watch softball now
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: that's stupid. It's not like they have one huge debate
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: show on a Sunday.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: But Vic stop, he.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Didn't break it at first.
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: He stop stop stop stop stop stop. I know fans
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: don't care about this side of things, but this is
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: a factor. And this If I was Amazon Prime and
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: I had paid all this money, I'd be pissed. I'd
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: paid all this money, not only for the games, because
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: they're paying you a lot of money.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Most TNT used to own the right.
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: To the awards. They're overpaying you for this. They're overpaying
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: you for the rights not only to the games, but
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: to make this announcement. And dude, has it twelve hours before?
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: I would be I would be on Adam Silver's door.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: Hey, open up. I mean I would be flaming mad.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: So how don't care? Fans like I don't care? Just
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: give me the information. I dig that.
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: So I'm telling you the reason the league has all
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: this money is because Amazon is paying through the nose
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: to be able to do it.
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: Let me reverse this and ask you this question, Brett,
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: how comes Shams who you know got this information last
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: year and the year before, or why didn't he break
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: it early when T and T had the announcement.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: That's a rival group get sued? What do you mean
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: get sued?
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: What's the same if you're paying for well, if you're
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: paying for the exclusive rights to those awards, then would
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: did Amazon have rights?
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: Or could I call it rookie hazing? Amazon's new.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Is that part of it that ESPN and tn T
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: have always sort of shared the games together?
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: But when I ask you the question, do you think
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: he would have done the same thing if ESPN was
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: announcing it that night?
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: But my answer is no way.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: Much ado about nothing in this case. I thought he
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: used a bullet in the chamber that Shawn's didn't. You know,
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: we all love Sean? Why why release that information before
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: it's time?
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: I think to be a journk I think it's stupid. Yeah,
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: I think you guys himself is just there's no need
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: to really, Okay, old boy, well you got the info
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: before everybody. All right, big deal.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: Nobody's surprised by this news anyway.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: No motion.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: On a similar subject, I can't imagine the level of
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: anger I would have if I owned a team and
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: the guy that I signed to be.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: The coach for about a month cost me a second
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: round draft pick. What the hell was that all about?
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: If you missed it because Tortorella did not speak after
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: game seven, he also didn't do your funsie sportsmanship hand
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: shake line thing.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: They also did not open the room.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Didn't open the room, so he didn't speak after game
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: seven he didn't open the room, or it was a
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: game six, whatever it was.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: They were fined and doced a second round pick. He
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: was fine, Well whatever, there were doc a second round pick,
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: which is, you had a guy who's on a rental
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: for a few weeks cost you a second rounder.
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: They find him one hundred thousand dollars. Now again the team.
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: I've never seen this before in my entire life, vick
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: like a player, when a player's in big trouble. In fact,
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: we'll get to more of this year. Yeah in a second.
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: We'll get to more of this in a second. But
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: when when a player is in big trouble with the league,
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: what do they offer him?
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: Huh?
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: What do they offer him?
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: They don't just they offer him an in person hearing,
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah hearing?
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah wait did you let me go?
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: It was such a broad based question. Well no, no,
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: I could have I mean I could have said, Okay.
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: If you board a guy, okay, you're suspended two games
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: and fine, ten grand whatever.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: But when you're really getting into trouble, you're gonna be out.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: You're gonna be out.
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: Forget the zoom ten games. Yeah you're well, we're handing
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: down the punishment. You're offered an in person hearing to
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: come and explain your case. You know, you'll throw yourself
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: on the mercy of the court essentially is what it is. Yeah,
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: they for the first time I've ever seen. Maybe it's
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: happened before, but I can't remember. They've offered a team
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: and in person and hearing at the league offices before,
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: I mean this week sometime, and I would imagine it
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: would be before the damn playoff series begins on Wednesday,
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: because you want to have all your peeps, all your
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: owners and gms and everybody lined up in Denver for
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: Game number one.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: I'll get to more of that on the other side,
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: because out of this.
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: Has come something that I don't think is unique, but
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: it's palpable.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Get to it next.