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RIP Vice President Dick Cheney · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews you need to start
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Speaker 2: Wednesday morning, fifth day of November. I'm Wes, Thanks for
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Speaker 2: joining me. It is the day after election day, as
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Speaker 2: this show is released. Full disclosure, I'm actually recording it
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Speaker 2: the night before the election results are not in. I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to be talking about the election on this
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Speaker 2: particular show very much, other than to say basically, I
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Speaker 2: plan to cover it in depth through the rest of
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Speaker 2: the week. I'll jump on that tomorrow and we'll dive
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Speaker 2: into some of the results and things with it. I
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Speaker 2: thought it possibly would be better for us to talk
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Speaker 2: a little bit about the passing of Dick Cheney, the
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Speaker 2: former vice president, and I'm going to spend some time
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Speaker 2: doing that today. But first I want to talk to
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Speaker 2: let's talk a little bit about former Vice President Dick
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Speaker 2: Cheney is passing yesterday. Announced yesterday morning after I finished
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Speaker 2: the show, and I thought I wanted to kind of
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Speaker 2: talk about this a little bit. The election. Look, if
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Speaker 2: this were a midterm election or a presidential election, if
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Speaker 2: this would be a different conversation. And it's not to
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Speaker 2: say that those races aren't important. Obviously they are. And
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Speaker 2: we've got a lot of things that have not yet
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Speaker 2: been decided. As I'm recording, that are up in the air,
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Speaker 2: in the balance, and obviously we've got a lot of
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Speaker 2: people that are bracing for fallout from whatever comes from
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Speaker 2: those elections. But I thought it would probably be best
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Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about the former vice president,
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Speaker 2: obviously his passing. Now this is Dick Cheney. There's a
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Speaker 2: couple of things here that we kind of have to
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Speaker 2: go into this a very specific sort of way, because
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Speaker 2: I think, first of all, he was a divisive figure.
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Speaker 2: This is sort of I realize we've always had this
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Speaker 2: divide of right and left. But keep in mind that
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Speaker 2: it was the Bush Cheney ticket that won the two
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Speaker 2: thousand election, and it really paved the way in a
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Speaker 2: lot of ways for the disputed election outcomes. This was
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Speaker 2: a race that and again little history with this, and
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Speaker 2: I had to kind of think about some of the
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Speaker 2: things that took place. But this was something that on
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Speaker 2: election night the state of Florida was called for the
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Speaker 2: Bush chair I'm sorry for the Gore ticket, and it
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Speaker 2: was one of those things where it was called. Then
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Speaker 2: they realized, wait a minute, and doing recounts, something's off here.
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Speaker 2: We're going to pull it back off the table or
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Speaker 2: numbers maybe aren't quite right. Ultimately it went to Bush
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Speaker 2: and Cheney, and then it went to many recounts. This
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Speaker 2: was the hanging Chad election. This was all of those things.
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Speaker 2: And then we had something that took place that a
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Speaker 2: lot of people seem to have forgotten about. Is we
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Speaker 2: had politicians on the left that just basically said out
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Speaker 2: right that you know, Gore won, and that you know,
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Speaker 2: Bush wasn't the legitimate president, and that that ticket should
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Speaker 2: not have been in the White House. And we had
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Speaker 2: politicians refused to attend the inauguration, refused to attend the
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Speaker 2: States of the Union, and just did not want to
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Speaker 2: acknowledge him as the actual president of the United States.
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Speaker 2: John Lewis is one of the people who did it,
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Speaker 2: and of course we have voting laws named after the
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Speaker 2: late John Lewis. And this is someone who you know,
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Speaker 2: refused to acknowledge the outcome of an election. He said,
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Speaker 2: this is not someone who legitimately won the presidency. So
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Speaker 2: Dick Cheney becomes vice president. And in that sense, you
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Speaker 2: started with some controversy, and there were people back then
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Speaker 2: that were calling George W. Bush, you know, Hitler. That's
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Speaker 2: that started. That goes that far back. I mean, it does,
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Speaker 2: it goes that far. And if you don't think that's
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Speaker 2: the case. Just a few years ago, there was a
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Speaker 2: sporting event where George W. Bush was there. Ellen DeGeneres
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Speaker 2: was sitting next to him at this sporting event and
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Speaker 2: there was a photo of them chatting and just having
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Speaker 2: a good time at a sporting event, and she took
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Speaker 2: a lot of grief for that, because how can you
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Speaker 2: sit there with him? These are people that were deemed
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Speaker 2: warmongers post World Trade Center attack in two thousand and one.
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Speaker 2: Cheney took a lot of that. Cheney was called Darth Vader.
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Speaker 2: There were a lot of nicknames for Cheney and that
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Speaker 2: he was sort of the the emperor behind the scenes
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Speaker 2: or whatever, if you want to call it that. But
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Speaker 2: he was certainly by most accounts during that time, you
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Speaker 2: felt many times like he seemed like the steady hand
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Speaker 2: behind the scenes that George W. Bush really needed in
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Speaker 2: that role as president. And the former president had that
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Speaker 2: to say basically, as he remembered Dick Cheney yesterday, he said, Laura,
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Speaker 2: and I will remember Dick Cheney for the decent, honorable
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Speaker 2: man that he was. History will remember him as among
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Speaker 2: the finest public servants of his generation. A patriot who
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Speaker 2: brought integrity, high intelligence, and seriousness of purpose to every
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Speaker 2: position that he held. He said, as a young White House
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Speaker 2: aide in chief of staff, a congressman, as Secretary of Defense,
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Speaker 2: and my vice president, Dick earned the confidence and high
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Speaker 2: opinion of five presidents. I aske him to joined my
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Speaker 2: ticket in two thousand, after first enlisting him to help
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Speaker 2: me find the best running mate. In our long discussions
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Speaker 2: about the qualities a vice president should have, deep experience,
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Speaker 2: mature judgment, character, and loyalty, I realized that Dick Cheney
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Speaker 2: was the one I needed. I'm still grateful that he
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Speaker 2: was at my side for the eight years that followed,
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Speaker 2: and he says Dick was a calm and steady presence
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Speaker 2: in the White House amid the great national challenges. I
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Speaker 2: counted on him for his honest, forthright counsel, and he
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Speaker 2: never failed to give his best. This was all in
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Speaker 2: a statement, and then he concluded it with He held to
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Speaker 2: his convictions and prioritized the freedom and security of the
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Speaker 2: American people for those two terms in office, and throughout
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Speaker 2: his remarkable career, Dick Cheney's service always reflected credit on
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Speaker 2: the country that he loved. Sorry one more. Laura and
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Speaker 2: I have shared our deepest sympathies with Vice President Cheney's wife,
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Speaker 2: Lynn and their daughters and granddaughters of whom he was
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Speaker 2: so deeply proud. We are praying for Lynn, Liz, Mary,
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Speaker 2: and the Cheney family as they honor a great man.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So.
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Speaker 2: Those statements coming from the president that you know he
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Speaker 2: served under as vice president. There were times when the
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Speaker 2: speculation was that maybe George W. Bush was in over
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Speaker 2: his head sometimes and people thought, well, Cheney is there
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Speaker 2: to help him through those things. Whether that's truly the
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Speaker 2: case or not, I don't know. You probably have your
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Speaker 2: opinion the people who wanted to call these two men
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Speaker 2: warmongers Post nine to eleven, two thousand and one. You
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Speaker 2: probably have your opinion on that as well. Okay. I
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Speaker 2: know that his Liz Cheney went after the then former
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Speaker 2: President Trump. She was part of the committee that was
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Speaker 2: trying to keep him from being able to run again.
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Speaker 2: It's no secret there are people that you know were
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Speaker 2: part of that administration in that time that did not
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Speaker 2: want Donald Trump to be president again. She seemed to
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Speaker 2: reflect the opinions and attitudes of some of those people.
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Speaker 2: So in a lot of ways are there's a mixed
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Speaker 2: opinion and mixed thoughts on what the Cheney legacy is.
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Speaker 2: This is about as diplomatic as I can give it
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Speaker 2: to you. I don't want to disrespect and dishonor someone
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Speaker 2: who served in this position during this time. There were
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Speaker 2: a lot of very tough decisions that had to be made,
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Speaker 2: and I know some of the more controversial shows. Their
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Speaker 2: take on this is that, you know, he was horrible
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Speaker 2: and all these things, and that's not what I'm here
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Speaker 2: to do. That's never really what I'm here to do.
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Speaker 2: I think that Dick Cheney and George W. Bush will
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Speaker 2: be remembered for what they had to go through after
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Speaker 2: an attack in America on American soil, something that had
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Speaker 2: not happened, not in that capacity, not in that way,
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Speaker 2: and they had to navigate that when I had to
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Speaker 2: cover COVID in twenty twenty and just for full contact
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Speaker 2: of covering COVID, and I've talked about this a little bit,
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Speaker 2: but I got into news talk radio in two thousand
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Speaker 2: and seven. I'd been working in music formats. It's a
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Speaker 2: very different game there. I'd followed politics prior to that,
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Speaker 2: but obviously not something that I had to follow every day.
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Speaker 2: And when the opportunity came along to move over to
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Speaker 2: news talk radio and work with Scott Miller, I had
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Speaker 2: said to Jill, if that opportunity comes along, I would
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Speaker 2: take it in a heartbeat. And Scott called and said,
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Speaker 2: you want to come work with me? And I said, yes,
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Speaker 2: I do. I didn't have to think about it. I thought, wow,
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Speaker 2: I would love to. Scott had always been a friend
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Speaker 2: and a mentor to me. I thought he was a
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Speaker 2: friend at the time, and I learned very quickly over
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Speaker 2: the many years that we worked together, sitting in the
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Speaker 2: same room, in the same studio, I didn't know what
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Speaker 2: a friend he was yet. All that came later, And
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Speaker 2: you know, I, like I said, I thought he was
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Speaker 2: my friend before that, and then I learned what a
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Speaker 2: great friend he would become. And when we were working together,
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Speaker 2: I learned a lot from him about that transition from
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Speaker 2: you know, spinning the hits because that's what I was doing. Hey,
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Speaker 2: you know, here's the new Maroon five song. I mean,
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Speaker 2: that's kind of what I was doing. And there were
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Speaker 2: other things. There was content, there was bits, there were
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Speaker 2: all those things. But it's not the same. I remember
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Speaker 2: very vividly the first day that he and I worked together,
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Speaker 2: and he said, you can slow down. You're speaking like
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Speaker 2: you got fifteen seconds to intro a song. You don't
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Speaker 2: have to do that. We have, you know, nine minutes
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Speaker 2: to fill in this segment. Slow down. So I learned.
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Speaker 2: That was the first thing I learned from him, and
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Speaker 2: there was a lot more that came with it, but
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Speaker 2: I learned how to do a show like that where
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Speaker 2: it was two people that were sitting there and having
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Speaker 2: conversations about topics. And then in January of twenty twenty,
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Speaker 2: there was a purge that took place in the company
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Speaker 2: that we were working for, and Scott sadly was one
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Speaker 2: of the casualties of that purge. I lost my longtime
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Speaker 2: radio partner, and I had to learn very quickly how
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Speaker 2: to do that morning show by myself. Okay, that was
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Speaker 2: just something that I had to figure out on the fly,
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Speaker 2: and that was okay, I navigated that, But very quickly
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Speaker 2: after I had to kind of navigate that, it became okay,
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Speaker 2: there's an election coming up of significance, and oh yeah,
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Speaker 2: there's a pandemic that has to be covered, and I
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Speaker 2: had to figure out how to do that. I had
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Speaker 2: to learn how to do that on the fly, and
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Speaker 2: it wasn't something that anybody could have been ready for.
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Speaker 2: There was no way that you walk into a situation
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Speaker 2: and you go, I'm going to cover this pandemic and
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Speaker 2: it's not anything close to anything we've ever done before.
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Speaker 2: I had to cover the World Trade Center attacks, and
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Speaker 2: you know, I was covering that live on the radio
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Speaker 2: on a music station. We had to cut in live
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Speaker 2: and do that, and that wasn't something I'd done before.
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Speaker 2: But you do it and you kind of navigate your
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Speaker 2: way through it, but you're not necessarily really prepared for it,
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Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. And I say that because one
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Speaker 2: of the things that I said many times in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty and covering COVID was we had people in leadership.
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Speaker 2: They didn't sign up for that. They didn't know, They
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Speaker 2: were going to have so many human lives at stake
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Speaker 2: and trying to figure out what's the best decision. We
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Speaker 2: were being told things in some cases that weren't even true,
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Speaker 2: and they were having to try to figure out, well,
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Speaker 2: what's the best way to handle this, what's the best
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Speaker 2: thing to do? And I say that because some of
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Speaker 2: them succeeded and some of them failed. And we look
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Speaker 2: back to decisions that had to be made by George W.
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Speaker 2: Bush and his vice president Dick Cheney. That wasn't something
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Speaker 2: that anyone had been through. That wasn't something that American
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Speaker 2: leadership had to deal with in that capacity. They were
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Speaker 2: figuring their way through that while it was taking place,
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Speaker 2: much like we all had to do with COVID, were
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Speaker 2: mistakes made. You could go through and say this was
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Speaker 2: of Monday Morning quarterback many years later. And again I understand,
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Speaker 2: if you're a Trump supporter, you probably don't think very
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Speaker 2: much of Dick Cheney. If you don't like Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: and you are still on the conservative side of center,
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Speaker 2: then you probably do like Dick Cheney. And that's just
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Speaker 2: the way it goes when it comes to the politics
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Speaker 2: of it. But the man, the person who served served
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Speaker 2: at a time when we needed someone in that role
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Speaker 2: break well, the day after a election day. And of course,
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Speaker 2: one of the topics that was heavy in many states
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Speaker 2: and continues to be it was a year ago, it
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Speaker 2: is now in this not even the mid mid term cycle,
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Speaker 2: if you want to call it that, of course, was
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Speaker 2: finances money. A new survey found nearly ninety percent of
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Speaker 2: respondent says that they have felt some degree of stress
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Speaker 2: about their financial situation. Gen x feeling it the most,
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Speaker 2: with forty six percent reporting high levels of money related stress.
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Speaker 2: The top stressors living paycheck to paycheck, unexpected costs, high
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Speaker 2: interest debt, and not having any financial support. Many said
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Speaker 2: an unexpected medical or car repair bill would put them
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Speaker 2: in a bad financial situation. Seventy two percent of o
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Speaker 2: survey said that having financial support would seriously boost their
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Speaker 2: mental health, and that number is even higher among millennials
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Speaker 2: and Gen xers. It is clear that money stress doesn't
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Speaker 2: just stay in your work. It spills over into sleep, relationships,
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Speaker 2: and overall well being. All of those things are certainly
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Speaker 2: factored into all of that, and the more that we've
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Speaker 2: had in the last five six years, having seniors have
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Speaker 2: to go back to work on the other side of COVID.
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Speaker 2: It's just so unfortunate, isn't it That we went through COVID.
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Speaker 2: We did this all together, no matter where your positions
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Speaker 2: were on it. It was something that affected almost every
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Speaker 2: single one of us in some way, financially, not even
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Speaker 2: getting into the health side of it and the side
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Speaker 2: effects of that, and of course loss of human life
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Speaker 2: being the most troubling of all of it. And tragic,
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Speaker 2: but financially it was a huge impact on all of
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Speaker 2: us and we never got a chance to recover. We
24:48
Speaker 2: had an administration and we know, sort of almost to
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Speaker 2: shadow presidency with autopen and whatever. It was just making
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Speaker 2: these decisions behind the scenes about moving forward and not
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Speaker 2: actually trying to help the American people and not trying
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Speaker 2: to say, hey, let's get this sorted back out where
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Speaker 2: we can get back on our feet. And all of
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Speaker 2: that is still there. It's all still there, and the
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Speaker 2: recovery process is ongoing. So there's that, all right. It
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Speaker 2: seems that food companies just can't resist combining two foods
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Speaker 2: designed for the Thanksgiving table into one. We talked about
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Speaker 2: some of the Oreo stuff yesterday. Well, Kraft has announced
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Speaker 2: a new and limited edition apple pie flavored mac and
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Speaker 2: Cheese Nope. The company says it mixes cheese, apple, and
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Speaker 2: cinnamon flavors for a shockingly delicious, savory and sweet pearing
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Speaker 2: That pairing available at Walmart now through Thanksgiving. Gotta be
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Speaker 2: honest with you, if it was in front of me
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Speaker 2: and someone offered me a taste, I would probably taste it.
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Speaker 2: I have zero expectations to actually like it. It does
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Speaker 2: not sound like it's something that I would enjoy. So
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Speaker 2: Subway is attempting to bring the Thanksgiving tur duck in
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Speaker 2: the chicken stuffed inside a duck stuffed inside a turkey
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Speaker 2: to the sandwich market. The chain's new ter Hamkin sandwich
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Speaker 2: is a mix of turkey, ham and chicken topped with cheese,
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Speaker 2: stuffing cranberry sauce. The sandwich will start appearing at local
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Speaker 2: stores beginning November the thirteenth. What They're not going to
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Speaker 2: put duck on the menu.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of weak.
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Speaker 2: You need some duck on the menu. What well, you're
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Speaker 2: telling me that these sandwich artists don't know how to
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Speaker 2: make duck in the back. Come on, man. Apparently millennials
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Speaker 2: and gen X into having consensual romantic relationships with multiple
26:51
Speaker 2: people at the same time. And apparently this trend is
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Speaker 2: really booming in those two groups as far as the
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Speaker 2: the groups being millennials and gen X, and a recent
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Speaker 2: report from Sister Wives of Dating app that caters to
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Speaker 2: those embracing polyamorous relationships shows that people in their mid
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Speaker 2: thirties and mid forties are the most active users, while
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Speaker 2: gen Z trails behind. Younger daters are still working their
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Speaker 2: way through their first serious relationships, while older people have
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Speaker 2: been there, done that and exploring different you know, relationship options,
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Speaker 2: you know, to date two people at once rather than
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Speaker 2: just settling down for one person. We've heard all these
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Speaker 2: calls and cries for population crisis. Well we've heard them
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Speaker 2: on both sides, though, haven't we. We've heard the ones
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Speaker 2: from the left that say we're in big trouble if
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Speaker 2: we don't start having more babies. And then you know,
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Speaker 2: we've heard I'm sorry, on the left they say we're
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Speaker 2: in big trouble for having too many babies and we've
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Speaker 2: got to cut them out, and some people even wishing
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Speaker 2: for more pandemics to kill people. Got to get that correct.
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Speaker 2: It's actually folks on the right saying, no, we need
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Speaker 2: to have more babies because you know, we're at risk
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