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Trekcast 378: Fight For Your Right to Starfleet · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Track uss the Galaxy's most Unpredictable Star Trek Podcast. I'm here, Everyone can
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  relax. I'm here. Oh thank goodness. Oh that was the closest it's
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  ever been with you. Yeah. Well, you know, it's a little
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  cold. It's a little cold here. I have to I still have to
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  adjust the environmental controls in the the planet. Yeah, yep, we're the
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  environmental suit. Yeah, I'm re routing secondary REVERSI polarity. As did that.
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  That's step one. That's always step one. Adjust the shield dutation and
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  all that stuff. Yea, the harmonics, that's the harmonics. Apparently the
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  universal translator is broken in our chat room, and Guten Morgan, it looks
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  complete. There we go. There, you got your ipro on. That's
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  it. That's it. What are you wearing? I know? So yeah,
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  teach treated tap dance scotp outers right, exactly exactly. Although I'm not
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  a doctor, I this is my this is my halloween costume from Halloween party
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  last night. You know what you look like? What I'm gonna tell you.
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  I'm gonna tell you what you look like right now? Okay, you
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  you look like tapestry, but it was Riker. That's what you. Yeah,
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  I like it. I'll take you. No. People kept asking me,
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  what do you what are you dressing up for Halloween? What are you
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  gonna be? You know, because we threw up Halloween party last night.
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  I said, you got what are you supposed to be? I'm a nurse.
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  I told people I was a nurse. Okay, and that's what I
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  dressed up as. I dressed up as a nurse. Okay, I'm a
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  Starfleet nurse. I got I have my I have my uh yeah, I'm
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  I'm head nurse. Okay, I've got my medical trycorder with the little pop
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  out you know. Yeah. So yeah, so how does that work?
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  That brings up that brings up an interesting Okay, I I have Starfleet issue
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  slacks. Okay, great, they have pockets? Do they have pockets?
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  They have pockets? They absolutely do have pockets. Yeah. So if you're
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  a nurse but you're a commander and you were stationed, yeah, you gotta
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  do that again. That was like the writer over the whole desk. But
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  if you're a nurse and you're a commander and you were stationed on Deep Space
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  nine during the first season of d S nine, you would outrank you would
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  outrank the chief medical officer who was a doctor. Well, okay, right,
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  you would so edition out rank. I'm just saying, I'm just saying,
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  I think you got a little pip happy last night when you well,
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  I might have got a little pip happy. I didn't want to be presumptuous
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  and call myself a doctor, you know. And I've got a lot of
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  family members that serve as nurses, so I kind of want to pay homage
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  to them. I'm just saying, you know, but lieutenants, I think
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  that would have been I'm just saying, I think you went a little too
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  far. The patholic behind him says that he's whatever rink you want. Thank
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  you very much, Daniel. Listen, I got my own battlett don't be
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  don't be dropping. Ok okay, because do I see a choreographed fight our
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  future? Those are the day choreographed. Uh okay. I didn't know we
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  we part Yeah, I didn't know we were wearing costumes today. I mean,
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  I suppose a Halloween. Come on, I could turn this hat around.
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  I could be Fred Durst for an hour, but uh no, I
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  went to two. I went yesterday morning. Uh the karate school had a
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  had a Halloween party for the kids. Okay, so I you know,
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  I went. The whole family went. We all dressed up. Uh.
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  My wife wore her h J J J J Abrams era, uh Starfleet red
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  skirt, which I just like seeing it. Honor. My son was a
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  banana from Fortnite. Okay, Peely, I think it's the character's name.
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  Yeah. My daughter was was Pepa Pig and uh cute I had. I
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  had the proton pack out for the first time. Oh nice, that was
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  nice. I walked in the I walked in the door and uh one of
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  the instructors looked at me and he says, Okay, you won. That's
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  great. We just watched Ghostbusters Afterlife. This we can do, said the
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  first time you saw it, or you watched it again, third time we've
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  seen it. We saw in the theater, then we saw it again last
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  year and then yeah, and that that scene at the end gets me every
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  It will never not get me. Yeah, it was about you. The
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  other day, Dan or yesterday there was a group of guys bar hopping,
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  four of them all dressed like like Ghostbusters, and then there was a fifth
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  guy who was in the giant inflatable huit. Well, so I have the
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  blow ups in the front yard. They're not inflated right now because it's because
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  it's because it's raining. But one of them, one of them is a
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  thirteen foot marshmallow man that stands in my front yard every years. I'll put
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  a picture up. Yeah, for sure, in the group. But we
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  also went to you know, the town had a had a trunk or treat
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  in the last night we went to that, and I I had to pose
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  for multiple pictures with people I didn't know. So okay, okay, I
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  can imagine that's that's part of the fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  you know, you've got a good cast. He was the hot girl at
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  the con. How does it feel to be the pretty girl? It's right,
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  It's nice to be uh, it's nice to be wanted. Yeah,
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  I'm a man. I'm a man. I need to be wanted. Desired.
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  That's from one of the movies. Yeah, I got it, bankman.
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  Yeah. Yeah, what about you? What about you? Daniel?
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  Any any Halloween? Well, we had a little birthday party for me last
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  night with oh happy birthday, Happy, happy birthday. Yeah. Thanks,
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  so I brought It wasn't really a Halloween party, but we just came out
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  and then I brought over my switch and we played games with my nephews and
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  niece and yeah, they really loved Super Smash Bros. So okay. On
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  each other Friday night, I went to see Five Nights of Freddy's Oh yeah,
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  I saw that too in the theater with six eleven year old boys for
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  my son's birthday. Oh wow. Yeah, and yeah, oh my god.
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  Yeah they had a lot of fun, let's put it that way.
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  Yeah. Yeah, not a movie I'm really interested in ever seeing again.
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  Yeah. Yeah, it didn't really seem like my my cup of tea.
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  But I you know, I don't know any I don't know the games,
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  I don't know the the I don't know the story. But apparently there are
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  some big fans of that. Yeah, because the the one we I tried
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  to buy tickets for, you know, I had to get seven seats altogether,
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  you know, six, and then me behind them so I could kick
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  their seats when they were shut up. But uh, you know, we
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  had to move to a later show. I couldn't find you know, I
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  couldn't find seating. And in the beginning, I was I was trying to
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  shut them up because they were talking through the whole movie, and eventually I
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  realized everybody in this theater is just talking through this whole movie because there's you
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  know, Easter eggs, and oh, this is this and that and this
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  is connected to this. I just I gave up. I gave up.
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  Uh, if they get too loud, somebody else is gonna yell at themselves,
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  right right. Yeah, my buddy saw it because we're like, I
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  think we're supposed to want to see this. So we went and we took
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  his son, who's like ten, and man, that kid was all into
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  it. Yeah. Coming out of the theater, he was like and then
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  this means that that moment, we're like whatever, yeah, whatever, Yeah,
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  So what a nerd? It's gonna tie into the to the finances?
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  A ten year old? What a nerd? Yeah? Morning warning, nerd
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  alert, nerd alert. That sounds exactly like us when we walk out of
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  a Star Trek movie, exactly exactly, So we would probably be way worse.
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  Did we just nerd alert a ten year old kid? Yeah? Wow?
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  What? What kind of assholes? Because well, I don't know,
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  I'm talking to my older age now, that's right, Get off my yeah,
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  you're squitching, my capit hill, my grant time will never grow this
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  way. You know what, I have a great idea. I have a
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  great idea. You're ready for this, boy astely, Hello and welcome to
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  Trek Cast, the galaxies most one star trek podcast. I'm one of your
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  hosts, The Lombardo with me Daniel Reyes Scott Bounders. Thanks for stopping in.
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  We're eleven minutes in. I figured we should. Yeah, yeah,
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  see, I never want to be presumptuous to to do the intro. So
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  it's fine, Yeah, it's it's fine. Then let's Startrek News, all
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  right, so you can definitely tell that the strikes are taking effect because the
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  news is getting harder and harder to find. Yeah, so yeah, these
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  are the meager droppings that I have. Our first news story comes to us
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  from trekmovie dot Com and Lower showrunner Mike Mahon gave an interview to them and
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  talked a little bit more about Lower Decks. He did kind of give something
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  away, so this is a potential spoiler for the finale. He didn't say
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  that it was a spoiler, but maybe so if you don't want to hear
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  it, you know, give it about thirty thirty seconds go on. So
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  basically, in the previous episode Caves, when the Ventorians show up and they've
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  got the crew trapped and they're saying, oh, they're they're enjoying their time.
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  Leave them there. Apparently there was a line that was cut out where
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  they said it's about to get much harder for them, alluding to that maybe
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  the Vendorians are behind that ship catching everybody. Yeah, something fell behind me,
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  all right, it's yeah, getting attacked. Gied me to suit up
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  there three days exactly. Yeah, So we'll see if that's the case.
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  But also in the interview, Mike behind did say, should Lower Decks gets
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  canceled, he would love to transition into doing comic books and books and video
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  games for lower decks. So okay, okay, Then our next new story
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  comes to us from screen Rant, and we're learning a little bit about Whoopi
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  Goldberg and what she originally wanted to do on TNNG. She also had an
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  interview where she talked about this, and apparently her pitch was she wanted to
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  be the new security officer because at that point in the series, Tasha Yarr
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  had just been killed off, and she thought, Okay, there's a hole
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  to fill and I'll be the new security chief, and the producers were like,
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  whoopee, we love you, but we don't see you as a security
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  chief. We feel the same way. Yeah, so you're gonna be a
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  bartender. You're gonna be a space bartender. And so that's what happened there,
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  all right. And then our last I think they made the right decision.
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  I think they did. Do I think so do yes. And then
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  our last news story comes to us from Variety again the you know, had
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  to get what I could find, and the headline is Paddington and Perus sets
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  twenty twenty five release date. So yeah, that's the big news story because
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  I don't I don't even I don't even remember like how it got started.
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  Yeah, like, act, do you actually like these movies? Or I
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  watched the first one because you guys were talking on the show a couple of
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  years ago. Yeah, and so we watched did a couple of years ago.
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  And I still haven't seen Paddington too, which I'll do that, okay.
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  Yeah, I think it was suggested that that that a pack let review
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  should result. Oh for sure. It started during COVID when we were like,
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  oh, what are we going to watch because there's nothing going on and
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  then we we had said, well, Paddington Too had a hundred percent on
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  Rotten Tomatoes, and it's considered a perfect film, which it is. Yeah,
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  and it's just never been let go since. All right, it's a
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  perfect film in that it didn't make any mistakes. You know, there's a
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  few perfect films like that where like they they perfectly fit the structure of what
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  a screenplay is supposed to be. At this point, this is what happens.
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  Like one of the perfect films that's actually taught in film schools is a
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  Galaxy quest. Yes, yeah, oh it's you know, it's funny what
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  you're describing. What's that is the Kobayashi my room. That's right where you
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  can make no mistakes. And still so you're saying that Paddington, yes,
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  made no mistakes, it's still lost. I got done with watching Paddington and
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  I'm like, you know, my wife and I looked at each other and
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  it's like, yeah, that was that was good. I can't find anything
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  wrong with it. I'm not super excited, but I can't find anything wrong
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  with it. So that's that's my that's my look at this is to try
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  and connect anything. Okay, So yeah, frost back. Clumberjack says Paddington
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  would make a good bear. Rug. Wow, I mean he's not wrong,
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  what Dan Lombardo, I mean, yeah, I guess. I guess
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  you're right. So that's my goal is to take the things, take things
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  and connect them to track in any way that I can. So as you
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  talk about non trek things, still don't ever be surprised helpless, just like
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  the Federation is supposed to be. I mean just saying no, I was
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  calling back to the Kobe Aashi Maru that you know, whatever we talk about
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  it, if it's not trek related, if I could go find if I
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  could find a way to tie it back, that's sure. Every time.
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  Sure, I'm gonna. I'm gonna let's give you some pop quizzes on this.
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  Uh, Kevin Bacon, how can you connect pick Kevin Bacon back to
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  the start Trek? How can I connect Kevin Bacon two? Starving Bacon was
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  an X Men. X Men is a comic book. Patrick Stewart. Patrick
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  Stewart was in the there you go, There you go? Done deal?
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  All right, come on, I'm impressed. It's like, come at me.
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  I connect anything to start Trek, That's right, Yes, tenders back
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  to the Federation. All right, Well let's get to our main topic.
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  Fun will now come out. All right, So we just finished watching season
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  four, episode nine, the Inner Fight, the inter Fight YEP of Lower
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  Decks, and the official log line is Captain Freeman assigns the lower Deckers an
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  openly safe mission to try to keep a self self destructive mariner out of danger.
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  So that is the official log line. It's not wrong. So the
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  last few episodes, I recall people pointing out, like, hey, this
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  this one off character. I think it's I think it's the same voices as
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  so and so, and I think the scientists at the beginning, the guy
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  who gets his eyes popped out. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yeah,
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  I'm pretty sure that's Meglei MoU. I'm pretty sure that's the same third guy.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah it is. I think it is. Okay,
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  yeah, yeah, So what they they go to the to the scientists,
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  right, and what is I can't remember the episode. I've had so
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  much going on. So he's studying some uh, some some weird creatures that
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  they bleed acid and the only thing uh keeping them safe is uh, it's
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  like some electro fence. It's a Jurassic Park situation. That's right. These
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  little guys there, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're like xenomorphs kind of
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  they look like the munchers from uh teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. But yeah,
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  they do the thank you, thank you. Yeah. But yeah, Mariner's
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  taking weird risks. She's putting herself in harm's way. We don't really know
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  why at this At this point, it reminded me of that Voyager episode where
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  Balana was doing the same thing when she found out that all of her all
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  of her friends from the from the the well Makis thank you uh were killed
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  during the Dominion War. Yeah. Yeah, like like Mariner could have wore
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  a special suit and been okay, but she didn't, and so that's why.
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  Yeah, that's right. And then so then Captain Freeman was like,
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  Hey, we gotta go over here to take care of these people, but
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  I'm gonna send you guys on an overly safe mission because there's no way I
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  can have Mariner running loose while we're trying to protect these other people. So
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  did we know that, and you know, you could refresh my memory,
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  did we know that seven of nine was a member of Starfleet before we saw
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  her wearing a Starfleet uniform on Picard? Was she in Starfleet and then she
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  wasn't and then she was back in again. I feel like they mentioned that
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  in Picard. Okay, because when she gave the list, when Freeman gave
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  the list of people they have to protect or they have to find and protect,
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  she referred to them all as ex Starfleet officers. Right, it was
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  seven, seven of nine, Tom Riker, Beverly Crusher, and Nick Locarno,
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  and all of those makes sense except for seven unless she Yeah, because
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  Starfleet at some point in the Pocard show seven to nine says something along the
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  lines of, like, boy, Jane Way tried to get me into Starfleet,
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  it didn't last, and so I went to the clus rangers. Did
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  she say it didn't last or it didn't it didn't work out or didn't work
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  out? Yeah, something along those lines. Even if she had never been
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  in Starfleet before Picard, like she she might be lumped into that category because
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  she was part of Voyage's crew. Probably, but it's it's probably. It's
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  so ambiguous enough that it fits whatever you want it to be. Yeah.
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  Ok. So they take Mariner to go fix some like outpost relay or whatever.
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  It is. It's supposed to be like the ultimately safe mission. But
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  you know, of course, the lower deckers are telling her, hey,
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  it's super dangerous. What's going on? Yeah, they're trying to trick her,
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  and yeah, and guess what it is? Absolutely len ship shows up
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  and danger ensues. They get trapped on a planet. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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  So then uh, Freeman Shacks, the Freeman Shacks, and Ruthiford they
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  go to tattooed, right, they go to the most sizely canteena but they're
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  not on the list, so they have to they have to get on the
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  waiting Oh wait, no, I'm sorry, Yeah no, it was Axton.
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  Sorry, I mixed my planets up. That's right, that's right.
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  Well that's not the only planet from Star Wars that was featured in this episode,
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  because apparently one of the moons of Endoor was featured because the the building
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  with the giant satellite dish on top was that not I didn't look at the
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  two pictures side by side, but to me it looked like the shield generator
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  from Return of the Jedi. I thought that too. Okay, I missed
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  that, Yeah, I missed that one, which was that warning warning nerd
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  alert, NERD alert, Daniel, we got to come up with a signal.
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  You're welcome up with a signal, so like you know, Also,
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  I wasn't talking when you initiated that NERD alert. Yeah, you gotta do
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  it right when I'm in the middle of a sentence. I tried right right.
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  Yeah. So the bar was called MUDs, which is a callback to
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  Harry Mud. So I didn't I didn't catch that. Yeah, the bar
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  was called MUDs. Starflee uniforms have pockets. Yeah, yes they do,
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  Yes they do, but they have deep pockets or at least no, they
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  don't have money. They don't have deep pocket pockets, or at least in
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  this era, they have pockets. You know, we know an enterprise they
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  have pockets. It had nothing but pockets. It pockets for days. But
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  well they had to prepare for their long road. Yeah, it's been a
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  long road. Yes, all right. So if you have treck cast bingo
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  and you had dancing, there you go. So I love how Freeman says
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  that she aced her hoodlums and racketeers seminar at the Academy, which I think
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  is I think is a joke about the writing of h Berman era Star trek
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  because it seems like it seems like whenever something's going on, somebody is Like
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  I took a class at the Academy. We discussed this exact topic. I
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  only got to beat plus, but maybe we could make it work. I
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  remember when war said, I am a graduate of Starfleet Academy. I know
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  many things. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't think there was a Hoodlums and
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  Racketeers seminar, but oh yeah there's. Apparently apparently there is. And apparently
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  jippers are half priced for tripads today. So if you got three legs,
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  great. I don't know what the hell of jipper is, but whatever,
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  you're gonna save on him. Apparently. Yeah. So apparently it is common
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  knowledge that Beverly Crusher is an accomplished tap dancer. That's right. I didn't
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  I didn't think that was known that the it's a doctor. She must have
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  quite the reputation back at Starfleet. Yeah. Yeah, was that one season
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  that she was back at Surfleet season two? Yeah, that's how it got
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  out. Yeah. So this this klingon had uh had pink blood, which
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  is something that Undiscovered Country blood. Yeah, it only happened in Undiscovered Country.
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  Every other time we saw a Klingon bleed. It was regular, regular
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  red blood. So I thought it was odd that they chose to to bring
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  that back. I mean they I guess I know why they did it because
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  the first time we saw him bleed, he was still in disguise. He
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  hadn't been revealed as a Klingon yet, so that was kind of a foreshadowing.
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  But you know, that was one of those plot holes that they kind
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  of just glossed over and never revisited again. So to then just bring it
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  up again, well, he go back when we didn't know who was a
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  Klingon, the the Klingon that she's fighting, that Marinon was fighting on the
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  planet. When we initially see him, he's wearing some sort of clothing so
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  that you don't know what he is. Oh, you can't tell. I
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  got Yeah, he had a head he had a headdress or something. In
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  the first time. The first time he gets cut, he bleeds pink,
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  which is a clue that he's a Klingon. Yeah, except, yeah,
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  yeah, exactly exactly. So it was interesting. Mm hmm. So the
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  information I wrote down some some Easter eggs and thoughts the information broker, Uh
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  in the bar, did you catch the reference with him. Yeah, I
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  just got to watching that episode of the so he looks like Baylox. Baylox
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  puppet from the Corba might uh maneuver. Yep, the puppet is. You
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  know, even if you don't know that episode, if you've ever seen any
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  episode of TOS so watch the credits. He's right there in the credits.
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  His his face. In fact, when we were when we were in Chicago,
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  there was someone who looked like him and he had the plexiglass with the
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  credits. Yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah, that was great.
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  So bay Lock, the character Baylock was a seven year old Clint Howard,
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  Ron Howard's father and the voice of that puppet. It was Ted Cassidy
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  who played uh. He played He played Rock in the original series episode What
• 27:45
  Are Little Girls Made Of? But he also played Lurch on The Adams Family.
• 27:48
  It's that big talk guy star Trek. He had the really broad shoulders,
• 27:53
  yeah, in that costume. So he had lots of callbacks excess episode
• 28:00
  mm hmm. And then we we find out from that fight, we find
• 28:06
  out a little bit about what's going on with Mariner, which was huge.
• 28:11
  Yeah, what do you guys think of that? So Basically she admits that
• 28:17
  her friend had gone to the Enterprise. They Ado also were like best friends
• 28:22
  in the academy and uh Cito was much better than Mariner and Soedo basically took
• 28:32
  a dangerous mission and was killed. And basically now Mariners like, she doesn't
• 28:38
  want that for anyone else, for herself, and that's yeah, and lower
• 28:47
  decks. Yeah, anybody who didn't who doesn't know the history there she was.
• 28:51
  She was with Wesley Crusher and Nick Lacarno. She was involved in that
• 28:55
  accident. She's also the seventh season episode of TNG, she was the one
• 29:03
  who was uh supposed to pose as a but Jordan prisoner and help a Cardassian
• 29:08
  double agent get back into Cardassian space. And she died. She died for
• 29:15
  a country, and that's got Mariner torn up a little bit. I recently
• 29:21
  watched rewatched that episode. That's an episode that gets me every time too.
• 29:29
  When when Hard makes the announcement at the end with the music and and just
• 29:33
  the look on his face, I'm like, yeah that yep, Yeah,
• 29:37
  So you know, I love Easter eggs, I love callbacks, I said
• 29:45
  to the butt coming. Well, well, Mariner's issues seem kind of out
• 29:52
  of character. We saw some character growth for her, and then she regressed
• 29:59
  and and I feel like this is something that they came up with nine months
• 30:03
  ago. You know, this wasn't something in the plans, and it seems
• 30:11
  a little bit convenient. It seems a little bit late, and it comes
• 30:17
  off as a little bit forced. I think if you were going to do
• 30:23
  this, it would have been better in season one, as we're learning about
• 30:26
  Mariner, and then you go from there. I get why they did it
• 30:33
  now though, because you're using it as an excuse as to why she doesn't
• 30:37
  want to get higher in rank, because she doesn't want to be responsible for
• 30:41
  sending people out to do that, which we've seen that thematically. I mean,
• 30:45
  there was Jordy with that moral morality test, but Aenna, you know,
• 30:51
  to send your way. At the same time, in the very first
• 30:53
  segment of this same episode, she tells the civilian scientist, you know,
• 31:00
  if you want to study a million different animals, you could just join Starfleet,
• 31:06
  which is the opposite of what she should do. She doesn't want to
• 31:08
  be in command, and she doesn't want to send people into harm's way.
• 31:11
  She just wants to study things and solve puzzles. Shouldn't will be a civilian
• 31:17
  scientist tomorrow. She doesn't need to be in Starfleet to do any of that,
• 31:19
  right, So right, And if you really want to pick it apart,
• 31:22
  though, then you can argue, like, well, her mom literally
• 31:26
  is the highest in command on that ship and literally pick the safest assignment to
• 31:30
  protect her. Mm hm. You know, so you're kind of showing that
• 31:34
  Mariner's logic is kind of flawed. But but I think for what you're trying
• 31:41
  to get to as far as the character, I think it's okay. And
• 31:45
  I think this show has has earned enough goodwill that Yeah, maybe it's a
• 31:48
  little bit nitpicky. Maybe maybe it's not the best execution of this, but
• 31:52
  whether they're ultimately going to go, I trust them and we'll see, we'll
• 31:56
  see where it ends up, right, No, Yeah, I agree,
• 32:00
  And I think there's gonna be you know, with with Nick Lacaro coming in,
• 32:05
  I I'm wondering if they're gonna have a like, like I'm going to
• 32:10
  predict that maybe Wesley Crusher is going to show up in the next episode.
• 32:15
  They've got They've got Nick Lcarno, you know, They've they've got I think,
• 32:20
  and he's collecting obviously he's collecting people and he just collected mirror what somebody
• 32:28
  just said, I just heard an epiphany. Frost, Uh Frost, giant
• 32:32
  lumber kiddie, what's his name? Jump the Shark. Yes, I'm not
• 32:42
  sure if it's that it remains it remains to be seen indeed indeed or what
• 32:47
  Like I'm predicting we're either going to have Wesley Crusher in the next episode or
• 32:52
  maybe the other Oh nurse Ogawa yeah, or or that Laval yeah, Vevell
• 33:00
  Lavell. So what they really need to do, they really need to steer
• 33:06
  right into this. They need to have Tom Parris. They need a scene
• 33:13
  with Tom Parris and Nick Lecarno where he's voice he's voicing both characters. Yeah,
• 33:20
  and like and you know, like Tom Parris is pissed that he you
• 33:23
  know, I keep getting confused for you, you're giving me a bad name.
• 33:29
  And then also have because uh Torik was in Lower Decks. Oh yeah,
• 33:36
  and it's the same actor who plays vork Yea from Voyager. Oh yeah,
• 33:42
  both both of them there and or Vorick and Torque like, oh,
• 33:46
  yes, we know exactly what you mean. I'm now where and played by
• 33:50
  the same actor. They were they were okay, but different characters. Yes,
• 33:54
  yeah, why would And I get why they would do that because they
• 33:58
  if they make them the same character out of on a series, then they
• 34:00
  have to pay the writers for this. Yes, yes, it's the same
• 34:06
  situation. I don't care what they say about Paris Locarno. It was all
• 34:10
  about money that the decision was all about money. Yeah, yeah, okay,
• 34:16
  okay. What do we think Nick is going to be doing in the
• 34:20
  final episode? I don't know. That's that's that's in my my notes literally
• 34:23
  say, uh, Nicolcaro had been abducting Captain's slash ships w t F.
• 34:30
  That's what my notes say, right right, right, So I don't know.
• 34:34
  So is he a good guy or a bad guy? Is he doing
• 34:37
  something nefarious or is he doing something that he thinks is for the greater good.
• 34:43
  The last thing he did was to sacrifice his career for the other cadets.
• 34:46
  That's the last thing he did that we saw him in. So does
• 34:51
  that guy become an evil guy? I don't think they're going to make I
• 34:54
  don't think they're going to make him a Mustatiline Villion, right, I don't
• 34:59
  think he I don't think he sacrificed his career for the others. His career
• 35:05
  was over, he bears, asking the real questions. Does the writer finally
• 35:07
  get paid? I pull it, right, I would think, so right,
• 35:15
  he gets it. He gets a check for like seven dollars and he's
• 35:16
  like, yeah, guys, I'm not even stream. Yeah. Well,
• 35:20
  if I'm right, and they're going to bring back all these characters from the
• 35:22
  The Next Gen episode lower decks, then yeah, I bet he's just like,
• 35:28
  yeah, exactly fourteen dollars. So Locarno didn't sacrifice himself for the others.
• 35:38
  I think he knew it was over and chose to go out in a
• 35:45
  blaze of glory. He always wanted to go out in a blaze of glory.
• 35:46
  He wanted to end his academy career in a blaze of glory. And
• 35:50
  yeah, he wanted to Yeah, and the next best thing is, you
• 35:54
  know, I'll end my end my career in a blaze. I went down
• 35:59
  with the ship. I took the hit from my form, my crew.
• 36:04
  So I don't think he's yeah, I don't know. I don't think he's
• 36:08
  a good guy. I don't think they're going to redeem him, so to
• 36:14
  speak. On this show. Hmm interesting. Okay, they've quote, they've
• 36:19
  been quoted in the past saying that their excuse for not using him on Voyager
• 36:23
  is that the character was irredeemable, right, so to now redeem him.
• 36:30
  I don't think. I don't think that's what they're doing. Okay, you
• 36:37
  have an ability to look deeper into things than I do. You mean you
• 36:42
  don't You don't take cartoons seriously. I take cartoons seriously just as if not
• 36:47
  more so seriously than you do. But yeah, well, you know,
• 36:53
  you gotta, you gotta, you gotta check the scoreboard. I go in
• 36:57
  deep on these things. And then if you watch that, if you watch
• 37:00
  these episodes again in six months, I'm usually one thousand percent wrong, But
• 37:04
  you know this is true. And and who was the first first of the
• 37:07
  three of us to you know, predict that this was the ship was going
• 37:13
  to be this mystery ship was collecting things, not destroying things. What's that?
• 37:16
  Now? What can you hear me? Now? Uh? Yeah,
• 37:27
  let's uh, we'll set up a scoreboard, so we'll happened at the end
• 37:30
  of the year or next week. I have got the predictions, so I've
• 37:35
  got I've got a question before you get into predictions. Maybe you can,
• 37:38
  you can make some predictions on this. So okay, So they got intel
• 37:44
  that whoever this mystery person group was that was abducting these people, they have
• 37:52
  an interest in seven of nine, Tom Parris, Beverly Crusher, and Nick
• 37:54
  Locarno, right, and then we come to find out that Nick lacarn actually
• 38:00
  is the the the person that's doing the the abducting. So my question is,
• 38:09
  does Locarno have some sort of interest in seven of nine, Tom Riker
• 38:15
  and Beverly Crusher or was the intel just bad? Are we going to see
• 38:19
  these these other characters mentioned next next week or or see any of them appear?
• 38:28
  I mean, we know that we know that Jonathan Freaks uh is very
• 38:31
  active in all aspects of Star Trek right now. So to to have Ryan
• 38:37
  yeah, so to have him voice uh, you know, Thomas Reiker,
• 38:43
  yeah, would be rather rather easy. If I've got to pick whether or
• 38:50
  not they're going to show up and actual lines from their characters, my gut
• 38:53
  is no, but I would not be surprised if they do. But I
• 39:00
  think you got a twenty two minute show. You've just revealed, Nick Placarno,
• 39:05
  You clearly are going to do something with that. I don't think you
• 39:08
  have time in that to also be like, and here's seven to nine and
• 39:12
  here's Thomas Riker. You know, so I think it's going to be more
• 39:15
  focused on Nick and what's going on with him. And they may mentioned those
• 39:22
  other characters, but I don't think we will actually see or hear them.
• 39:27
  Well, I don't want to gloss over that one of these name drops is
• 39:29
  kind of a big deal. I mean, we know what seven of nine
• 39:30
  is doing kind of in this timeframe. We know what Beverly Crusher is doing
• 39:35
  kind of in this timeframe. Right, Tom Riker, the last time we
• 39:39
  heard of him in Cannon, he was in a cardassium prison camp. So
• 39:45
  this this kind of confirms that, hey, he's still alive and floating around
• 39:51
  out there somewhere. Oh so look at this theory from Kevin. He thinks,
• 39:55
  Soito's alive and Nick wants to expose all the lies. All the names
• 40:00
  on lists were scorn by Starfleet, Tom Riker, Beverly and seven. I
• 40:06
  like it that. Yeah, it's not a bad theory there. There was
• 40:10
  talk years ago of revisiting that character on Deep Space nine that she wouldn't that
• 40:20
  would be cool, yeah, because I mean all they had to go on
• 40:24
  was the destroyed escape pod, right, you know, she could have been
• 40:30
  captured and to make Starfleet not pursue it, destroy the escape pod. You
• 40:37
  know, that'd be interesting. It wouldn't cheapen what happened to that character,
• 40:42
  I think because that was a that was a big sack that it depends.
• 40:49
  I mean, if she uh has spent the last twenty years in a Cardassian
• 40:55
  prison camp, in a living hell, I mean that doesn't chieve that that's
• 41:00
  still a sacrifice or she hold on? I hear another another epiphany, where
• 41:10
  is the last time? What? What is the last place we do?
• 41:15
  Thomas Riker to be Cardassian prison prison? So maybe the two of them they're
• 41:27
  bunkies. Mm hm hm hm hmmm. Do you think that I don't know.
• 41:35
  Would that be a little too intense or deep for lower decks. I
• 41:44
  don't think it'd be too deep because they they dropped some really deep cut easter
• 41:47
  eggs. I don't think it's too deep as far as too emotional or too
• 41:52
  dark or something like that. That's a huge thing because you know, we're
• 41:59
  talking about prisons. We're not just talking about any prison camp. We're talking
• 42:01
  about a Cardassian prison camp for a Bajora. Yeah, I want to see
• 42:07
  I want to see Lavell. I want to see Lavell show up, and
• 42:13
  I want him to interact with Tom Riker, and I want Tom Riker to
• 42:16
  be like I don't know it is about that guy, but I don't like
• 42:19
  him. Mm hmm. I don't know if you remember, but there was
• 42:24
  uh, you know, will Will Riker who didn't like him. Yeah,
• 42:28
  I didn't like him because he reminded him of his younger self, right,
• 42:35
  I said, I'm trying to remember. I remember that there's Thomas Riker has
• 42:38
  been in some of the novels, but I don't. I don't remember any
• 42:42
  circumstances. Oh, Lavell shows up and he's part of section thirty one.
• 42:47
  Oh, I get section thirty one in there, and so is Nurse Ogawa.
• 42:52
  Check and Jerdy one recruited him once he became lieutenant. They knew he
• 42:58
  was qualified to sure of in their mix bartender, and so he was always
• 43:04
  getting information, perfect perception they could get, they could get the bartender.
• 43:09
  Dude, I don't I don't remember his name Canadian, that's right. Oh,
• 43:16
  look at this Kevin. If you rewatch the scene from Marriner gets beamed
• 43:21
  out. You'll notice it's a Romulan beam out noise, not Federation. Oh
• 43:25
  nice cat. Okay, yeah, interesting inter Yeah, warning, warning,
• 43:39
  dropping NERD alerts today, that's right. Ye, Kevin's very own nerd alert.
• 43:45
  I didn't a monkey. Yeah, huh. What do we think is
• 43:52
  happening? We we think that that it's gonna be Thomas Riker and Soito and
• 43:59
  Nick all the Evil Avengers, the Evil Avengers. It's the Thunderbolts. They're
• 44:07
  the Revengers. Revengers. Yeah, I don't know what I mean. Okay,
• 44:14
  so what do we know? It's it's nick Lecarno. He's collecting different
• 44:21
  species. Also the way he's been collecting them. Did you notice that the
• 44:28
  the Klingons of the Romin was the Cardassians said they they they fed lies to
• 44:32
  our our our lower listed and as a result we got captured or whatever it
• 44:37
  seems like. Right, So I don't know, I can't I can't connect
• 44:45
  the dots on that one. But yeah, m clone of Boimler is in
• 44:51
  section thirty one that the clone died because an earlier this season, Boiler was
• 44:57
  like, if he died, then I can die right, Yeah, that's
• 45:00
  right. Or did he that's right? Maybe he's in a Cardassian prison prison.
• 45:09
  Everybody's Indian prison. Everyone everyone that dies and they've got room to run.
• 45:17
  And Tashi Yard didn't like die while trying to escape Romulus. She's in
• 45:23
  a prison. She's an old lady. Yeah, right, is that what
• 45:30
  you were going for? Surety prison camp? Cass is in a Cardassian prison
• 45:40
  camp. That's right, that's right man, Okay, anything else we want
• 45:49
  to bring up with this? No, we've done enough damage. I think
• 45:52
  we've done enough damage for one day. Yeah. Oh, can I announce
• 46:00
  that I? Daniel and I were talking about this earlier. So I am
• 46:05
  going to the Grand Rapids Comic Con, like I've said in the previous shows.
• 46:10
  And I just got an email from the press people at the Grand Rapids
• 46:15
  Comic Con that I just got approved for press passes. So my my intricate
• 46:21
  plan to be inserted as a co host of this show has finally paid off.
• 46:28
  So the original plan was we were going to go just Saturday, but
• 46:30
  I think we're gonna go Saturday and Sunday. J. G. Hertzler,
• 46:37
  who plays mar Talk, is going to be there as well as Robert O'Reilly,
• 46:44
  who plays Gowrod, is going to be there. And for Saturday,
• 46:46
  they're doing a special thing. What's that glory to you? Yeah? Absolutely?
• 46:52
  And for Saturday even more glorious, they're doing a total h with the
• 46:55
  two of them, which they almost never do. They're going to be in
• 47:00
  costume, they're gonna be on makeup, so they're actually bringing in a they're
• 47:06
  bringing in a Star Trek makeup artist to put them in full get up and
• 47:09
  there's gonna be photo ops. So I'm gonna try to be part of that.
• 47:14
  And then the next day, uh for one of the panels, uh,
• 47:20
  George de Kay is going to be there, so I'm gonna oh my
• 47:24
  yeah, I'm gonna be there for for both days. So I'm gonna represent
• 47:30
  Trek cast and like I said before, if anybody is in the southwest Michigan
• 47:34
  area, hit me up on Facebook and maybe we can do a little meet
• 47:37
  up. But yeah, Saturday and Sunday the Grand Rapids Comic Con coming up,
• 47:42
  so which also means I will be there Sunday. Uh, So I'm
• 47:47
  not quite sure what the what the situation is gonna be. If I can,
• 47:51
  I'm gonna bring my equipment I'm gonna bring my tripod and my phone and
• 47:53
  my headset, so if I can find a spot that's this coming Sunday,
• 47:59
  Okay, okay, So I'll once I get there Saturday and kind of see
• 48:05
  what the situation is. I might ask them because like one of the things,
• 48:08
  if you have a press pass, you also have access to like little
• 48:12
  interview rooms and stuff like that. I'll see if I can steal one for
• 48:15
  a little while, and if not, if I can at least just get
• 48:19
  on for a moment and just say hey, I'm here whatever. So we'll
• 48:22
  figure that out, all right, Cool, cool, Cool, that's exciting.
• 48:28
  Yeah, we're excited. Nice. Well, then let's get to listener
• 48:32
  feedback all right, open frequently. Hey, I know how we do it
• 48:44
  on that crawl. I'll get to it when I get to it. It's
• 48:47
  been a busy week. Hey, go ahead and call that number. Say
• 48:51
  how to Chad? Yeah, xCE up in the chat guys if you want
• 48:55
  to talk to us. Uh. In the meantime, I did ask a
• 48:59
  question in all of our social media, is that the replicator is stuck on
• 49:04
  the last thing nelix eight? What is it? We got a lot of
• 49:07
  leola, Yeah, got a lot of uh yeah, yeah. The other
• 49:14
  one which I'm not sure if it was a sex joke or a cannibalistic joke,
• 49:20
  but Kess was listed on there a lot. Yeah, So you can
• 49:28
  take them that whatever you want. That's great. Yeah. And in case,
• 49:30
  in case anyone's wondering for me to drive two Grand rapids, it's uh
• 49:37
  ten hours and forty one minutes if I go, oh, you can do
• 49:40
  it in even ten hours if I go through Canada. Yeah, you know,
• 49:45
  I got passport. If I stay in the US, it's a it's
• 49:50
  an extra hour. Well okay. Uh. The other thing too with that
• 49:55
  question that I asked our social media is some people legit antimately got into an
• 50:00
  argument about well, Neelix would never use the replicator he was a cook.
• 50:06
  Uh yeah, no, he re used the replicator on occasion when he had,
• 50:13
  you know, to make Jane Wake coffee. Even Gordon Ramsey hits up
• 50:19
  a drive from time to time. Sure, it doesn't matter, you're gonna
• 50:22
  like, I'm gonna google it right now. Yeah, well you're doing that.
• 50:28
  We have people Google. Did Nelix ever use a replicator? Yeah?
• 50:31
  Okay, Google before you don't know how it works. Google's gonna be like,
• 50:37
  I'm not gonna answer that, nerd. All right, well we got
• 50:44
  people with let's let's get going. We got t Bear, so let me
• 50:46
  bring him on there. He is, Hey, what's going on? Man?
• 50:52
  So I think Neelix actually cheated. He replicated ingredients and then cooked it.
• 50:58
  Okay, technically it's not. It's kind of like, you know,
• 51:00
  this is an organic food, but technically it's not because natural ingredients. Yeah,
• 51:08
  he should definitely replicate cheese whenever he has the opportunity. It's always cheese.
• 51:15
  He replicates some he replicated a clone of him and Tubac. Oh wait
• 51:27
  too soon is living a or prison planet somewhere. You know, at this
• 51:37
  point, I'm not leaving anybody breakfast sausage. It is not good, sir.
• 51:50
  Yeah, that was a little dry, like like British humor. Oh
• 51:55
  man, you can't even get it out. Cry we're breaking Scott Beam indirectly
• 52:14
  to sick medical emergency right, oh my? Oh wow? Oh Dad,
• 52:30
  still looking up to see. It's one of those things sometimes you google something
• 52:36
  and there's just so many results that aren't what you're looking for that you have
• 52:39
  to scroll past, and then you and then you give and then you give
• 52:43
  up and you get back to your podcast and you wonder, what's everybody laughing
• 52:46
  about? Because your phone? Hey t Bear, I see that you showed
• 52:53
  up. Oh that was good. That was good. I think that This
• 53:08
  is the second time I jumped out of my couch when I saw the scene
• 53:13
  and when they introduced Nick mccarno, and that was like, yeah, this
• 53:16
  one was Oh, I forgot I think it was season three per card.
• 53:22
  I forget what did that? But this one was like the show up?
• 53:27
  You got excited? Which one that Lady Doctor in season was it two?
• 53:34
  Oh? The Lady Doctor? Yeah? Oh yeah, I think everybody we're
• 53:37
  all excited about that. We were all excited about her. Yeah. Yeah,
• 53:42
  she s in prison too. That's where Rios is, he said,
• 53:47
  the Cardassian prison camp. Yeah, play soccer and run. I think Januine
• 53:57
  knows it because that's where she said tubics I, oh yeah, well yeah,
• 54:01
  for anybody. She was like, she's gonna set them straight to the
• 54:04
  Cardio prison, she said, said she said, two vic to the afterlife.
• 54:09
  That's where she says, right, that's what she she killed him,
• 54:15
  that's right, in cold blood. But that's why she's getting the Prodigy kids
• 54:22
  she's gonna go, They're gonna go. What's that? She's gonna kill the
• 54:28
  kids too, dude? See what was the episode she tried to kill the
• 54:31
  kids. She's gonna merge them all together first, That's that's step. They
• 54:36
  don't kill anybody in Star Trek. They all go to the Cardassian prison.
• 54:39
  Cardassian Prison is the phantom zone of Star Trek. There as long as you
• 54:45
  can merge enough of them together where they're not cohesive or you know they're not.
• 54:51
  So it's so Tom Thomas, Riker, Cido Jackson, General Zod.
• 54:57
  Who else is there is in there too? Jerky for instance? Now he's
• 55:12
  just getting dark. What did Eddy didn't do to you? Send him a
• 55:22
  Paddington Bear trying to make a point and would just keep I forgot the point.
• 55:28
  So what do you think is gonna happen in the finale? Ooh,
• 55:37
  I was feeling that this Nicola Cardinal turn is not He's not. I don't
• 55:42
  think he's a big bad I think there's something else behind it. Okay,
• 55:45
  he's just kind of like not a pond, but someone else is pulling the
• 55:49
  strings and they're using him, because how does someone like that break out of
• 55:53
  a well I should say prison or whatever he was put into and end up
• 55:59
  with a ship, because if you look at that ship, it didn't it
• 56:01
  looked a little starfleet to me, just the styling. Maybe it's a little
• 56:06
  bit futuristic starfleet. So okay, God help. I still hope they don't
• 56:10
  go into the thirty first century, but you never know. Yeah I don't.
• 56:15
  I don't think lower decks will do that, but yeah, gonna show
• 56:20
  up. No fingers crossed right here to the red Angel. Yes, I
• 56:30
  thought that you were bird where what's her name? Mariner was jumping out and
• 56:36
  taking care of things on her own. I at first I thought that was,
• 56:38
  Oh, they're totally poking fun at Burnham, because that's something Burna would
• 56:42
  do. She would just jump out and not tell anybody else plan and you
• 56:46
  know, come back and offer the bear because somehow it worked out. So
• 56:52
  yeah, I think there's some somebody else I think they did saying that they
• 56:57
  need to do with with Michael, which is like, you see her struggle
• 57:01
  first, and then we have the emotional breakdown, not the emotional breakdown,
• 57:06
  and we never see them struggle. That's true. Yeah, you see them
• 57:10
  struggle with their emotional breakdown. That's the problem with their Yeah, yeah,
• 57:15
  who knows. Maybe maybe she strug says, the big bat will be ash
• 57:22
  Tyler. Oh hey, there was real quick. There was a throwaway line
• 57:29
  Taylan the Vulcan woman the lower Decker. Uh she said, she yeah,
• 57:37
  she said she was in the battle with the pack Leads. That's the end
• 57:40
  of season one, the one where the Hall Wriker shows up and Mariners like,
• 57:45
  wait, you you were at the battle with the pack Lids. And
• 57:47
  then it just the action started and it was just like a throwaway line.
• 57:51
  Throw Away lines like that that usually lead into something more. I mean,
• 57:54
  they don't write it, animate it, and voice it for no reason.
• 57:59
  But she was like, we saw that during the Battle of the pack Lids.
• 58:00
  We saw other lower decks and she was there, do you do you
• 58:04
  think that they're gonna make something to that. They could. I wouldn't put
• 58:07
  it past them, But okay, that's just something I noticed. Kevin's dropping
• 58:12
  more nuggets here. Something has to be tied in with the Culvert starburst.
• 58:16
  That's the logo on Nick and on the Bird of Prey. I know what
• 58:24
  it was that the cult starbursts. It's actually going to open up a portal
• 58:29
  to let in a mechanical ai. It opens a portal to a Kardassian prison
• 58:43
  prison. You can watch the show. He's so he's collecting people for the
• 58:53
  technology, and then he's collecting like himself and then four other starfleet officers so
• 58:58
  they can make They got a you the you know it takes five you know
• 59:02
  to do lower decks. That is that the thing Kevin from Seahawk maybe uh
• 59:16
  with recipes now on roasting over a fire to play the marshmallow un show us
• 59:29
  on the doll where Paddington hurt you? So are those are those replicated marshmallows.
• 59:38
  They come out of a special mellow marshmallow dispenser. They don't ask questions.
• 59:45
  Yeah, I don't think we need any more detail. Obviously the registry
• 59:52
  and obviously it's the Spock marshmallow maker. Imagine all the Paddington means you're gonna
• 1:00:00
  get now, Daniel, No, not the good ones at least. No,
• 1:00:07
  you're not gonna get any good ones. Bears right now? T bear
• 1:00:15
  Yeah he's a bear. Oh, this could go in all kinds of directions.
• 1:00:28
  It's gonna make Paddington poutine. Yeah there is, oh my well yeah,
• 1:00:37
  yeah, good time to sign off on my side with that. Oh
• 1:00:45
  you think you could just start this make this mess walk away and walks away.
• 1:00:50
  That's very good, all right, all right guys by And then we
• 1:00:57
  also got jazz Biz. Who there he is? Why all the hate for
• 1:01:07
  Paddington right now? I don't know. It's like, come on, that's
• 1:01:10
  that's a great series because I've been holding it in for like six years.
• 1:01:16
  Watch Paddington too. It's actually a good movie. It's it's really funny,
• 1:01:20
  So I will endeavor to watch it this month. Yeah, good, it's
• 1:01:23
  actually really good. It's it's good. Maybe there's a reason why Nicholas Cage
• 1:01:28
  loved it so much and put it in his movie. Yes, that's it's
• 1:01:30
  actually good, so check it out. Well, Well, what do you
• 1:01:36
  think of the episode? You know, this was probably the best episode of
• 1:01:38
  this season because everybody's talking about it. Yeah, I agree, trying to
• 1:01:45
  jump into conclusions like what's going to happen for the finale next week? So
• 1:01:49
  I mean, look at Danny's googling right now. He's not even paying attention,
• 1:01:52
  that's right. Yeah, he's going sorry to Google. He's got the
• 1:02:00
  red uh Fred durstatt and he's just rolling, rolling roll. If you zoom
• 1:02:06
  in on his glasses, you can see the reflection of his house. Oh
• 1:02:08
  there you go. Yeah, all right, star man. Uh so,
• 1:02:19
  what do you think of what's gonna happen in this finale? Uh well,
• 1:02:23
  I think we'll see the starburst maneuver and that'll be the end of Nicole Carno.
• 1:02:30
  How oh my god, Dan, you're saying Nick's gonna die. I
• 1:02:36
  think that's how he's gonna He's gonna run away and he are going to do
• 1:02:40
  the star bars. Oh my god. What the heck is that? A
• 1:02:52
  screenshop from Paddington to a murder. I didn't give him enough marmalade, so
• 1:03:02
  he's going after people. He's straight up, he's straight up Jane Wade,
• 1:03:07
  that girl, that's right. Wow. He will Jane Waite be in this
• 1:03:13
  prison camp? Ah hm? And how many bad murals will be in this
• 1:03:19
  prison camp? Oh? Who's not? Yeah, amigo. And and then
• 1:03:25
  like the Marquis will be in there, and yeah, several other Bajorans.
• 1:03:30
  So the one armed Bajoran to Carre his friend will definitely be in there.
• 1:03:37
  Dan Is frostback, No, I'm not sorry, Yeah, no, Yeah,
• 1:03:44
  we'll have to get to the bottom of that some kind of fan theory
• 1:03:49
  that is, yeah, yeah, my my, uh my alternate persona when
• 1:03:55
  I send stuff is Facebook Facebook user. Yeah, yeah, Chas. Are
• 1:04:08
  you excited that Nick Leccardo's back or not? Or yeah, I'm actually it's
• 1:04:13
  finally we get to see him with everybody's always talked about him. Will he
• 1:04:15
  ever repair? You know, who's going to pay the writer to show one?
• 1:04:19
  I'm happy for the writer. Is that actually Robert duncan McNeil or is
• 1:04:24
  it some like voice actor? No, it is, Yeah, I listened
• 1:04:29
  to it twice. You know, these guys have gotten I think, especially
• 1:04:31
  Robert duncan McNeil. He doesn't sound the same as he did twenty five years
• 1:04:38
  ago. No, well nobody does. Nobody. Does your voice sound the
• 1:04:44
  same at all? Not Riker does er h. Yeah. It's kind of
• 1:04:49
  sad. With Patrick Stewart, you keep looking for that strong voice he had.
• 1:04:53
  He never a little bit. There was like one speech in season three
• 1:04:57
  where you could kind of hear old picr Hard, but the rest it was
• 1:05:01
  like you know grand Pappy, Yeah, people get old, you know,
• 1:05:05
  yeah, yeah, and you missed that. You're hoping that he could continue.
• 1:05:11
  It's like Shattner, he can still you know, well, probably talks
• 1:05:17
  to himself in his sleep and when's conversations. Probably, and he's actually been
• 1:05:26
  to space. He's the only yeah, to go to space. Yeah.
• 1:05:32
  And then it was that nildagrists like, actually he didn't go to space,
• 1:05:36
  he just went right yeah, would you okay, we get how far above
• 1:05:44
  the disc did his ship go? I'm just curious. I don't know.
• 1:05:48
  Oh yeah, the flat earth? Yes, well is flat? Flat earth?
• 1:05:57
  Joke a joke? The joke fell flat. That's right. Well,
• 1:06:03
  they put Captain Kirk in a penis shaped rocket go to space. I think
• 1:06:11
  you just made the powers joke? Yeah, did behave Johnson? What happened
• 1:06:21
  to was like you don't even hear about them launching those rockets anymore? Like
• 1:06:26
  what happened? They did? They do all the time? What penis shaped
• 1:06:29
  rockets? Oh yeah, all the time, all the time. Have you
• 1:06:31
  seen them? It was like the Blue Origin ones. They're they're pretty fallical
• 1:06:34
  there. They've been sending up like satellites and other stuff like that. They
• 1:06:40
  they send up satellite Yeah, and I think there's been like some a couple
• 1:06:48
  of resupplies to the International Space Station stuff. Like that. Okay. You
• 1:06:53
  know. My favorite meme from that whole thing, that whole Shatner and Space
• 1:06:57
  thing was the group photo of the crew and the crew him. It was
• 1:07:00
  two men and I think one woman, and someone said my prediction, the
• 1:07:05
  two guys die and Shatner saves the girl. There you Yeah, I wonder
• 1:07:15
  how Passtop George was. They had words online when Shatner went up. Yeah
• 1:07:25
  he uh yeah. He was like, oh, William Shatner's fat and blah
• 1:07:28
  blah blah, and William Shatner was like, yeah, I might be fat,
• 1:07:30
  but I'm William Shatner and I just went to Space. So yeah,
• 1:07:35
  I love how petty they are with each other. It's bad. I'll ask
• 1:07:41
  him about it when I see him next Sunday. Bring up Shatner. Yeah,
• 1:07:45
  how are your feelings about William about old Bill? You and Bill Shatner
• 1:07:48
  friends. Have you talked to Bill lately? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:07:58
  it's that is cool. Yeah, I'm excited. Cool and the full makeup
• 1:08:03
  and everything. Markt talk and at the same time you got to get a
• 1:08:09
  picture of his Yeah, I'm definitely going to years ago, years ago at
• 1:08:15
  the uh what's what's the hotel where they do the convention in Vegas. I'm
• 1:08:19
  drawing a break right now. The Rio Rio. I was online at a
• 1:08:24
  coffee shop uh in the morning to get my coffee and apparently uh mart Talk
• 1:08:29
  and I are on this are on the same caffeine schedule with him for a
• 1:08:32
  few minutes chatting. So that was wow. Yeah, it's like he's definitely
• 1:08:39
  one of my favorite like characters. He's like Garrett to me. Yeah.
• 1:08:44
  Well, Gorin and Martalk outside of Wharf are two of the most well known
• 1:08:47
  and influential Klingons in the Star Trek universe. That's true. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:54
  they probably have the most screen time outside of Wharf. Yeah. And
• 1:09:00
  when you first see uh Mark Talk, you think he's going to be this
• 1:09:02
  bad, bad guy, but really, you know, he turns because they
• 1:09:06
  had the klon you a war. Yep. Well, the first time you
• 1:09:11
  see him, it's not him. It's not him. The first time you
• 1:09:13
  see it's not him. Yeah, because he has both eyes and he went
• 1:09:17
  to Cardassian prison probably, that's right. It's like anybody, anybody who's anybody,
• 1:09:29
  anybody who's anybody has spent some time at Cardassian prison camp. That yees,
• 1:09:33
  yes, that's I was gonna say that's gonna be the new truck cast
• 1:09:44
  T shirt. I went to a Cardassian prison. Yeah, I got that's
• 1:09:50
  pretty good. Come on, where Chad went is to the prison campus?
• 1:10:00
  Oh no, he wants a short trek special bar talk on the hunt for
• 1:10:05
  Paddington. Awesome, I'll take it. No, AI generate that klingon cutting.
• 1:10:16
  Let's get on that. Okay, I generated Martak Killy Paddington with the
• 1:10:23
  bat lift, just cutting him in half. Yeah, pretty cool. We're
• 1:10:27
  going to traumatize Daniel. Yeah, my birthdays tomorrow. Come on? Oh
• 1:10:32
  man, how old are you going to be? Forty three? Forty three?
• 1:10:36
  Yeah? I turned forty four two months so nice. I didn't think
• 1:10:41
  you were that old, Daniel. I know, I get that a lot.
• 1:10:45
  Ye. How about you, Scott? How old are you? I'm
• 1:10:47
  forty five? There you go? All right, I'm forty six. So
• 1:10:50
  all the nerds here about the same age. Yeah that's right. Well,
• 1:10:57
  Jas does anything else you want to bring up? That's all all right,
• 1:11:01
  you know, just spend Like this season kind of dragged a little bit,
• 1:11:05
  but this episode I think has made up for it. This was agreed.
• 1:11:11
  It had a lot, you know, like I was saying like they can
• 1:11:14
  refer back to certain stuff, but don't overly do it. Kind of make
• 1:11:19
  a episode like this about you know, character build, like let's have a
• 1:11:23
  backstory, let's work on And yeah, I thought the whole time Nicola Krno
• 1:11:33
  was going to be the guy with the helmet on. Oh, because it
• 1:11:39
  definitely was a Star Wars episode. Yeah, that was definitely return of the
• 1:11:45
  Jedi doing age sex check. Yeah, it's like an all chat room,
• 1:11:51
  right, Yeah, that's what I was saying. I just did it.
• 1:11:56
  Sounds forty five male, Southwest Michigan. There you go. The way you
• 1:12:08
  said that sounds like like in football when they're showing all the players like your
• 1:12:14
  ground. Yeah, University of Ohio State. Whoa, tye is one hundred
• 1:12:24
  and three. But that's so I was gonna say, it's middle aged for
• 1:12:28
  a Vulcan. That's the dog ears, right, So that's yeah, So
• 1:12:33
  we have to divide by seven? Yea. Take him like ten minutes to
• 1:12:36
  type that out because he's so yeah, quick day google what's three divide by
• 1:12:47
  seven? I'm doing the math right now. Okay, Yeah, I don't
• 1:13:00
  think I would be curious to see to know how old our oldest listener is,
• 1:13:06
  oh, that would be interesting, which also reminds me I just listened
• 1:13:11
  to trek cat over the week. During the work week, I listened to
• 1:13:15
  trek Cast episode one from two thousand and eight, and you have a whole
• 1:13:21
  nother host on there that just a couple of different hosts. Yeah, and
• 1:13:27
  then he moved to was it Vegas and everything in Vegas? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:13:33
  well it was you remember the guy that was the with the boorg that
• 1:13:42
  used to be on a lot vernon or yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
• 1:13:47
  yeah, he passed away like this year. Yeah, who's this? He
• 1:13:53
  used to be on a recurrent character like you'd always talk about Star Trek things
• 1:13:57
  on the original Trek Cast. Yeah. Oh, this is the original series
• 1:14:01
  of this. If you go back in the I vaguely know who you're talking
• 1:14:03
  about many episodes of the show. Was he was he a co host or
• 1:14:09
  was he like all pumping every now and then I can talk about Star Trek's
• 1:14:13
  experience and everything. He was on the Scott Plan too. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:14:19
  trying to assimilate, that's what you are. You're I'm a board.
• 1:14:24
  I'm assimilating. Resistance is feudial strong board. That's right. Put that on
• 1:14:32
  a T shirt. I'll have to I'll have to go back and listen to
• 1:14:38
  some of those old episodes. I haven't listened to them in uh in years.
• 1:14:42
  I remember a couple of years ago I listened to the first one that
• 1:14:45
  you guys put out. Oh God, oh stop bad. But it's yeah,
• 1:14:49
  because I remember the first time I heard, I was like, what
• 1:14:51
  the hell is happening? I was, I wasn't gonna say to that.
• 1:14:57
  It wasn't great. The secondisode was better. I think the first episode you
• 1:15:00
  guys had some sad issues. But David Thomas, that's right, Scott,
• 1:15:05
  can you can Yeah, Scott can listen to the old episodes, so you
• 1:15:10
  can't do that. My favorite, my favorite review, my favorite review of
• 1:15:17
  of our first episode. And I'm pretty sure this is a direct quote.
• 1:15:23
  Yeah, new guys. Yeah, actually I read. I was on a
• 1:15:31
  couple of different podcast players, and I was reading the reviews for this oh
• 1:15:35
  God, for this show. Uh maybe maybe I think you guys have done
• 1:15:40
  this before, where you read some of the reviews for this show, some
• 1:15:43
  of the some of the one star reviews. Oh they're fantastic, Yeah,
• 1:15:48
  straight up, yeah, they're fantastic. We should we should read some off
• 1:15:55
  sometime. Who would have thought the internet doesn't like change? Yeah, yes,
• 1:16:02
  now I haven't read a review since I came on the show. Oh
• 1:16:06
  yeah, we'll have to see if there's any reviews. I'll leave one right
• 1:16:11
  now. New guy, Guy, why would you gress up as a nurse
• 1:16:19
  and have all these pips on your I am the head nurse. I am
• 1:16:28
  I maybe maybe I'm like the head, like the nurse, head nurse instructor.
• 1:16:33
  He's the he's the d O n he's the director of nursing. Yeah,
• 1:16:40
  I gotcha because I got the try chorder. But if you keep giving
• 1:16:43
  me lip, yeah, he will, he will keep The guy is always
• 1:16:50
  wrong, He's not finger or anything. All right, Jazz was great having
• 1:17:01
  you on. Yes, thanks, thank you. Thanks guys. You got
• 1:17:04
  to cut me off now. All right? Wow, this show has been
• 1:17:13
  wild. I love it. I love it absolutely all right? Do we
• 1:17:17
  have anything else to share? Uh? Well, I'm gonna go play the
• 1:17:21
  Star Trek role playing game with some friends later this afternoon. Awesome, Okay,
• 1:17:26
  I'll let you know how that goes. Scott Scott apparently he's playing it
• 1:17:29
  right now. I know, yeah, yeah, sure I am, yeah,
• 1:17:32
  sure am, I'm gonna go visit dad. He's back in the hospital,
• 1:17:36
  oh man with the same thing. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm gonna,
• 1:17:40
  I'm gonna, I'm gonna shoot down to where he lives. And well,
• 1:17:44
  we're all pulling for him. Thank you, thank you. I'll let
• 1:17:46
  him, I'll let him. I'll let him know that a bunch of people
• 1:17:49
  he doesn't know on a show he's never listened to. Yeah. Absolutely,
• 1:17:55
  everybody think about and pray for Dan's dad. So there you go, there
• 1:17:58
  you go. Awesome. Well, thanks every mom. Yes, we'll see
• 1:18:02
  you guys later. All right, siyah bye, guys. This is Captain
• 1:18:06
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• 1:18:11
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