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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Saturday, July twenty fifth.
- 0:03Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tom Moore. The ball State game in
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- 0:33Speaker 1: on today's show, we're going to welcome back in Tony Gerderman,
- 0:35Speaker 1: the football insider at Buckeye Insiders dot com. Going to
- 0:38Speaker 1: be running through players ten through six on our countdown
- 0:41Speaker 1: of the most impactful buck Eyes for this year's team.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Tony number ten, I've got the guy. I'm certainly expecting
- 0:51Speaker 1: to be the starting left tackle for Ohio State this year,
- 0:53Speaker 1: although nothing is really official yet. That is Ian Moore.
- 0:59Speaker 2: I think that's fair pretty much. Any year you're going
- 1:02Speaker 2: to put that guy somewhere in this range, and is
- 1:07Speaker 2: that impact? Is this good impact or bad impact? Time?
- 1:10Speaker 2: I just need you to let me know first. Now.
- 1:13Speaker 2: I think it's so interesting that we're just talking as
- 1:18Speaker 2: this as if this has been done. We haven't seen
- 1:20Speaker 2: it yet. Everybody kind of assumes that you're moving a
- 1:24Speaker 2: second team all big ten left tackle to right guard
- 1:27Speaker 2: so that you can put in somebody who started one
- 1:30Speaker 2: or two games in his career at a position like
- 1:33Speaker 2: left tackle, which should kind of give you an idea
- 1:39Speaker 2: of how they view Ian Moore and what the expectations are,
- 1:42Speaker 2: because this isn't They're not going to do it as
- 1:44Speaker 2: an experiment if it's being done, Like we saw Ian
- 1:47Speaker 2: More in the spring at left tackle the entire time.
- 1:51Speaker 2: It's a long time ago. I'm pretty sure we saw him.
- 1:52Speaker 2: You know, maybe he was at right tackle at some
- 1:54Speaker 2: point in there, but he was at tackle, and the
- 1:57Speaker 2: expectations are that he's going to play he's one of
- 2:00Speaker 2: the top five if he certainly views himself as one
- 2:02Speaker 2: of the top five when we talked to him into spring,
- 2:04Speaker 2: and this one feels this feels okay to me.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a team that has four of its guys,
- 2:13Speaker 1: four of its starters back from last year. On the
- 2:15Speaker 1: offensive line. It has a left tackle last year's left
- 2:19Speaker 1: tackle in Austin Seerveld, who did a very nice job,
- 2:23Speaker 1: was a very solid left tackle for them all last season.
- 2:26Speaker 1: You don't normally see a guy like that move, but
- 2:29Speaker 1: it feels to me like Austin Sireveald might be more
- 2:32Speaker 1: natural inside. And don't worry, we'll get to Austin Seiriveld
- 2:34Speaker 1: than just a little bit on this countdown. But to
- 2:38Speaker 1: have someone like Ian Moore where you've got four guys back,
- 2:41Speaker 1: including your left tackle, and you're thinking about slotting someone
- 2:43Speaker 1: else in left tackle, I think that tells you what
- 2:45Speaker 1: the coaching staff potentially thinks about him. That's one of
- 2:48Speaker 1: those things where I think we're assuming that this is
- 2:50Speaker 1: going to be the answer, but we haven't officially gotten
- 2:52Speaker 1: the answer. We'll see if we can squeeze that out
- 2:54Speaker 1: of Ryan Day or one of the Ohio State players
- 2:56Speaker 1: at Big ten media days next week. So there you go,
- 2:58Speaker 1: there's number ten, Umber nine. Let's go to the other
- 3:01Speaker 1: side of the line of scrimmage. Alabama transfer defensive tackle
- 3:06Speaker 1: James Smith.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Yeah, a guy who if he's as disruptive, if he's
- 3:14Speaker 2: as disruptive as the reports coming out pre spring football,
- 3:19Speaker 2: and I don't know how well to correlate the weight
- 3:22Speaker 2: room and those sorts of things with the impact in
- 3:27Speaker 2: you know, on the field, but the way he was
- 3:31Speaker 2: talked about was certainly ear catching and eye catching, and
- 3:36Speaker 2: so it builds up these expectations and then we see
- 3:39Speaker 2: him a little bit in the spring. I mean, we
- 3:40Speaker 2: saw him all spring, but you only see so much.
- 3:44Speaker 2: And I think that if things go well for the
- 3:48Speaker 2: defensive line, this is where he is right like nine.
- 3:53Speaker 2: If if they don't go well for him, then he's
- 3:57Speaker 2: going to be lower and that's not going to be
- 3:58Speaker 2: great for the Ohio State defense. So I think this
- 4:01Speaker 2: is a good I think I think Larry Johnson and
- 4:04Speaker 2: Ryan Day would take this right now, Matt Patricia would
- 4:06Speaker 2: take this right now if they could guarantee that James
- 4:09Speaker 2: Smith is going to be number nine on Tom Orr's
- 4:11Speaker 2: list of most impactful Buckeyes.
- 4:15Speaker 1: You can almost hear the coaching staff scrambling around and
- 4:18Speaker 1: changing the depth chart, moving things around as we release
- 4:21Speaker 1: each name on this list. I'm sure that's happening in
- 4:24Speaker 1: the witty right now. We're not there to know for sure,
- 4:27Speaker 1: but almost certainly number eight, this is not anything that's
- 4:30Speaker 1: going to change. Carson Hinsman, the center for Ohio State.
- 4:33Speaker 1: He was a first team All American according to the
- 4:36Speaker 1: AFCA last year. They had the year before that, they
- 4:40Speaker 1: had the Remington Award winner in Seth McLaughlin. And then
- 4:42Speaker 1: when he got hurt, Carson Hinsman stepped in and they
- 4:44Speaker 1: really didn't miss a beat, which is a pretty good
- 4:47Speaker 1: indication of how good Carson Hinsman was in twenty twenty four,
- 4:50Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and then you were assuming probably another
- 4:53Speaker 1: step forward in twenty twenty six.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Yeah, and based on the issues that they had with
- 4:59Speaker 2: the mobile and stunting defensive lines. When you've got Carson Hinsman,
- 5:03Speaker 2: when you've got a center and experience center, and you
- 5:06Speaker 2: have the ability to communicate and get everything set and
- 5:08Speaker 2: he's seen everything, you've got that kind of experience, you
- 5:12Speaker 2: would hope that it would help you handle those sorts
- 5:16Speaker 2: of things. And having an experienced center along with an
- 5:19Speaker 2: experienced offensive line. Second year with your offensive line coach
- 5:23Speaker 2: and then offensive coordinator Arthur Smith, all of these guys
- 5:27Speaker 2: can have high level conversations and they can speak in
- 5:32Speaker 2: graduate level courses, which is something that people have talked
- 5:35Speaker 2: about with Caleb Downs when he was a freshman. You
- 5:37Speaker 2: could talk in these high level things and understand the concepts.
- 5:40Speaker 2: You can also do that with a fifth year senior
- 5:42Speaker 2: center who has seen everything, understands everything. And I think
- 5:46Speaker 2: that allows the offensive line. That allows Carson Hindsman to
- 5:49Speaker 2: be better, to be better, able to handle anything that
- 5:51Speaker 2: pops up, to be able to adjust and handle adversity.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Having a center who has been through adversity it can
- 5:58Speaker 2: also handle. It helps the entire offensive line and then
- 6:02Speaker 2: helps the entire operation of your offense.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean he was a starter in twenty
- 6:07Speaker 1: twenty three as well, which feels like ages ago, but yeah,
- 6:11Speaker 1: he has been a He's going to graduate from Ohio State,
- 6:14Speaker 1: assuming he plays, you know, plays the full year and
- 6:16Speaker 1: is healthy and all that. He's going to graduate with
- 6:18Speaker 1: something in the neighborhood of forty eight to fifty starts
- 6:21Speaker 1: in his career, which is quite a run of starts
- 6:26Speaker 1: for a guy at the center position number seven, someone
- 6:29Speaker 1: who was a little earlier in his career. That would
- 6:31Speaker 1: be true sophomore running back Bo Jackson.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Number seven, Bo Jackson, returning starting thousand yard rusher. These
- 6:40Speaker 2: are all this is part of the formula of being
- 6:42Speaker 2: a top ten impact Buck Guy and doing something that
- 6:47Speaker 2: he did and as a freshman after not playing in
- 6:49Speaker 2: the first game and being the first Buck guy who
- 6:51Speaker 2: ever rushed for one hundred yards in his first two appearances.
- 6:54Speaker 2: That's in terms of being a freshman and doing that.
- 6:58Speaker 2: These are all. Those are big things, and I know
- 7:02Speaker 2: there's concern about his big playability. I wrote I posted
- 7:06Speaker 2: this on the Buckey Center's message board, I think on
- 7:10Speaker 2: Tuesday or Wednesday. He had more fifty yard carries last
- 7:17Speaker 2: year than Quinchawn Judkins and Travian Henderson. In twenty twenty
- 7:22Speaker 2: four he had more. He had as many thirty yard
- 7:25Speaker 2: carries as Travion Henderson. So, like the thing that people
- 7:31Speaker 2: keep talking about with the Bo Jackson is the stuff
- 7:33Speaker 2: that they see they saw him not do. It's like
- 7:37Speaker 2: there's like three plays or so play against Indiana that
- 7:41Speaker 2: he could have scored and he fell down, got tackled.
- 7:43Speaker 2: There's there's another play. I don't even remember which game
- 7:46Speaker 2: it was at this point, but he would have been
- 7:48Speaker 2: you know it would have been seventy yards or something,
- 7:50Speaker 2: but you know, one guy brought him down. And so
- 7:53Speaker 2: like those are glaring things that people want to just
- 7:56Speaker 2: continue to latch onto with, kind of ignoring the six
- 7:59Speaker 2: yards of a thousand yards as a true freshman without
- 8:04Speaker 2: a running threat at quarterback, which is something that has
- 8:07Speaker 2: helped the Ohio State running backs over the years, and
- 8:09Speaker 2: he did not have any benefit of that. So I
- 8:12Speaker 2: think it's okay to look at the stuff he's done,
- 8:14Speaker 2: Tom and that's what you're doing here by putting him
- 8:15Speaker 2: on this list, and I'm expecting even more stuff from
- 8:18Speaker 2: him this year. And really it just comes down to
- 8:20Speaker 2: opportunities and carries, because it's a despite all of the
- 8:25Speaker 2: consternation about the running back room and the future of it,
- 8:27Speaker 2: the president is pretty deep.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Yeah, and we talked about Isaiah West not that long
- 8:31Speaker 1: ago on this Countdown show. I think they've got a
- 8:33Speaker 1: couple guys who could be pretty impactful running backs for
- 8:36Speaker 1: them this year. And that doesn't even touch on Legend Bay,
- 8:39Speaker 1: who we also talked about a little earlier in the countdown.
- 8:42Speaker 1: All Right, so now we're for number six, last one
- 8:44Speaker 1: on this show, we're going to talk about transfer safety
- 8:47Speaker 1: Earl Little. This is a guy where you know, I
- 8:52Speaker 1: honestly thought about putting him higher than this just because
- 8:57Speaker 1: we keep hearing things like we've seen it. You kind
- 8:59Speaker 1: of looked at what he did at Florida State and went, yeah,
- 9:02Speaker 1: I could see that translating into a pretty good player
- 9:04Speaker 1: at Ohio State, and then you just kind of keep
- 9:07Speaker 1: hearing things about him and what he could be for
- 9:09Speaker 1: this defense.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to do an ear Little Expectations show
- 9:15Speaker 2: on the Buckeye Weekly podcast and lock in what we
- 9:19Speaker 2: think his numbers are gonna be, because there could be
- 9:24Speaker 2: some fun numbers in terms of impact plays that we
- 9:27Speaker 2: like to talk about in the Bold Prediction Show, whether
- 9:29Speaker 2: it's tackles for loss or pass breakups or interceptions or whatever.
- 9:34Speaker 2: I think they're gonna use him in some fun ways,
- 9:37Speaker 2: Matt Patricia being able to dial some stuff up, and
- 9:41Speaker 2: unfortunately we didn't get to see enough of him in
- 9:43Speaker 2: the spring because he was a little bit banged up.
- 9:45Speaker 2: And also they're not gonna show everything they're gonna do
- 9:47Speaker 2: with them. And you know we've talked before. When we
- 9:50Speaker 2: asked Jeremiah Smith about it, he's like, well, he's gonna
- 9:53Speaker 2: make some plays. I don't want to say anything more
- 9:54Speaker 2: than that, don't want to reveal too much. So the
- 9:58Speaker 2: expectations within the program are very high, and he's been
- 10:03Speaker 2: i think a Dude of the Week a couple of times,
- 10:05Speaker 2: and he's had a good, strong summer, and I'm just
- 10:08Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing what they do with them, because
- 10:10Speaker 2: when you lose as many players as they lost and
- 10:13Speaker 2: you've got to manufacture some defense. I think this time
- 10:15Speaker 2: around and everything I've been told inside the Woody, they
- 10:18Speaker 2: are just as high on this defense coming out this
- 10:21Speaker 2: year as they were last year in terms of the
- 10:23Speaker 2: possibilities of it. And I think he's one of the
- 10:25Speaker 2: reasons why.
- 10:27Speaker 1: Well, there are so many places on this defense where
- 10:29Speaker 1: you look at how do you replace the Caleb Downs
- 10:31Speaker 1: and not have a drop off and it's almost impossible
- 10:33Speaker 1: to do that, And how do you replace two linebackers
- 10:35Speaker 1: who are both top ten picks in the NFL without
- 10:37Speaker 1: a drop off, And it's almost impossible to do that.
- 10:40Speaker 1: But the nickel position, I mean, Lorenzo Styles Junior had
- 10:43Speaker 1: a really good year last year, no question that was
- 10:45Speaker 1: not a week link on the defense at all. This
- 10:48Speaker 1: could still potentially be one of those spots where it
- 10:51Speaker 1: maybe gets a little bit better. I think the three
- 10:54Speaker 1: Tech spot with James Smith and Edwick Houston, I think
- 10:58Speaker 1: that's a spot that could be better than it was
- 11:00Speaker 1: last year. I think that Nickel spot is another spot
- 11:03Speaker 1: where it could potentially be better. Where you're gonna have
- 11:05Speaker 1: a drop off some places, if you have a little
- 11:07Speaker 1: bit of a step up in some others. Maybe that
- 11:09Speaker 1: helped sort of balance things out on the whole. So
- 11:11Speaker 1: there you go, ten through six on our countdown of
- 11:14Speaker 1: the most impactful players on this twenty twenty six Ohio
- 11:17Speaker 1: State team. We will get through five through one on
- 11:20Speaker 1: tomorrow's show, and when we do, we will once again
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