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Furness Show 6-3: Steve Palazzolo, Hugh Millen, Elijah Arroyo · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Should talk a little baseball ors do it so baseball
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  Speaker 1: team wins again going for a sweep. You know the
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  Speaker 1: best thing about what they're what they're doing here with
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  Speaker 1: this Mets series, I think they're doing. They're beating up
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  Speaker 1: a team they should beat up. And I know they
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  Speaker 1: mentioned one four straight coming in, but this is a
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  Speaker 1: bad baseball team and you're taking care of business at
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  Speaker 1: home against teams you should beat. And that didn't happen
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  Speaker 1: against Kansas City this year, but it has happened in
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  Speaker 1: the last three series. And all of a sudden, they're
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  Speaker 1: just starting to kind of hum along a little bit. God, I,
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  Speaker 1: you and I have talked about him before. Johnny Parada
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  Speaker 1: find a way to keep him on the roster.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have an update on the on Nathan Bishop's
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  Speaker 2: favorite game who Rob Reschneiner hit tracker. Johnny Parreida has
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  Speaker 2: now passed rob restneiern hits for the season. How funny
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  Speaker 2: is that in less than half the games?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, time out? Is that something Nathan gave you or
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  Speaker 1: twin or where I found that? I just found that
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  Speaker 1: you have your own tracker, you have your own ressninder track.
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  Speaker 2: No, but I was interested last night and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: Preida's kind of racked up some some hits in is
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  Speaker 2: like what two weeks of being up here.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's five for ten now in this homestand yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I got a second home run last night. Career
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  Speaker 1: had three RBIs he has an energy to him behind
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  Speaker 1: the plate. Listen, Garver's a veteran. The one thing give
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  Speaker 1: Garb credit. He like, you can't hit, but but he
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  Speaker 1: behind home plate. He can't throw, but he the ABS
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  Speaker 1: system is his front.
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  Speaker 2: He's very good at knowing the strike sune.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, like, like the one thing that maybe keeps Mitch
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  Speaker 1: Garver here is the ABS system.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and it's funny because you know.
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  Speaker 3: It, which is brutal like that. If that's the case, come.
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  Speaker 2: On, yeah, well I mentioned Rob Reschneiner too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I actually think there's a reality in which the Mariners,
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  Speaker 2: when cal Rawley is healthy, Johnny Parreeda comes your backup catcher,
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  Speaker 2: and then I'd rather have Mitch Garver be your lefty
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  Speaker 2: hitter and then have that third catcher option than have
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  Speaker 2: it Rob Reschneiner the way he's playing so.
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  Speaker 1: Well, because you got Robles back and you're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: and you're gonna have Donovan exactly right. Yeah, the Refs
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  Speaker 1: Snyner experience has to come to an end, has to
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  Speaker 1: be done, has to come to an end. I like
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  Speaker 1: that too, because I mean it's that makes sense. Donovan's
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  Speaker 1: utility guy. Yep, right, yep, because because I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Think you're taking the kid out.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think you're taking him out anytime soon.
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  Speaker 2: Play some juice on col Emerson Rookie of the Year.
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  Speaker 2: You can still get pretty good odds right now.
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  Speaker 3: So really, yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 2: Like plus three thousand the last time I checked.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a noted for Friday show at
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  Speaker 1: st Cao Cao noted, noted, got that the m's now
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  Speaker 1: six straight games they've had two or more home runs. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: which if you think back to last year when they
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  Speaker 1: were having great success, and I know it doesn't always
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  Speaker 1: feel sustainable, but when they were having success last season,
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  Speaker 1: the numbers like when they hit a home run in
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  Speaker 1: a game, we're through the roof. Yeah, and part of
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  Speaker 1: that was cal just being crazy. But now it's by committee, right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Patrick Wisdom hit a home run last night,
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  Speaker 1: you like, Johnny Parida hit a home run last night,
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  Speaker 1: and then Julio hit a moonshot last night, so like
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  Speaker 1: like it's coming from every like a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: powers coming from everywhere for this baseball team matters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's dom can Zone getting three hits. It's
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  Speaker 2: cool to Emerson, you know, just continuing to impress on
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  Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. How about those last two
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  Speaker 2: plays for him, the the diving stop and the eighth
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  Speaker 2: inning and then the sliding catch to end the game
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  Speaker 2: and e're pe by five runs. It's like everyone's kind
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  Speaker 2: of sleepwalking through the end of the game. He can
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  Speaker 2: easily just switch off and you know that's a foul ball,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not getting there, or you know, it's a hard
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  Speaker 2: hit line drive that's going down the third base line
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  Speaker 2: that you know.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's an interesting player.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I thought of that with that play last night to end.
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  Speaker 1: It was last year in San Francisco, right, Yeah, remember
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  Speaker 1: when Robles got hurt. Yes, and and people were saying,
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  Speaker 1: a dude, why are you selling yourself out at that
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  Speaker 1: point in the game, because I think the game might
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  Speaker 1: have been kind of out of hand or something, and
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  Speaker 1: it was early in the season, and it's it's like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of risk physically for one out, and as
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  Speaker 1: it turned out, it was now the Marion's end up
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  Speaker 1: going to the LCS. It's fine, but Robust, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: was out, he was done, and and he there's people
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  Speaker 1: who actually criticized him for that, and I just I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. I was like, how do you criticize
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  Speaker 1: this dude? First of all, don't you want a guy
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  Speaker 1: playing hard?
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  Speaker 3: Don't you want it? He's an athlete, he's not, he's not.
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  Speaker 3: But when I saw that last week, because it was.
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  Speaker 1: Such an awkward slide by, because he kind of got
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  Speaker 1: his cleek caught into the clay by by cold Emerson,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, if we don't need this.
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  Speaker 3: But then I'm like, no, you know what, that's how
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  Speaker 3: the kid plays. I'm good with that. I'm good with that.
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  Speaker 1: And and you can get hurt doing nothing in baseball. Hell,
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  Speaker 1: nobody knows how cal got hurt. That oblique issue, right, So.
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  Speaker 3: I did like it, But I thought that I did
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  Speaker 3: think back last to the count to the victor robless thing.
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  Speaker 3: I thought of that for a second.
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  Speaker 2: It is an interesting calm because I kind of had
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  Speaker 2: that thought too, right when it happens, like oh no,
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  Speaker 2: please don't be injured. And then he got up and
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  Speaker 2: he looked smiling, was like it was.
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  Speaker 1: Well because the game camera didn't catch the game camera
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  Speaker 1: because it's kind of behind it's kind of a hard
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  Speaker 1: angle for the game camera. Yeah, so the live game camera,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't see the start of the slide. And then
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  Speaker 1: they showed the replay and it's like he slides, kind
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  Speaker 1: of pops back up, then goes back down and it's
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  Speaker 1: like that just screams sprained ankle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does, and and he was fine.
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  Speaker 1: Made the plague. I mean, just kid's a stud man.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about him with yesterday. If you
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  Speaker 1: missed our conversation with Joe, she and it was Joe
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  Speaker 1: was raving about him yesterday and rightfully so. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they'll go for the sweep today before they head out
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  Speaker 1: on the road for some very winnable games on the
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  Speaker 1: road as well, which we'll talk about more tomorrow. All right,
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  Speaker 1: here's what's coming up on the show today.
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  Speaker 3: Well check it.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Pelo's little thirty thirteen check the Mic podcast weekly
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  Speaker 1: visitor during the football season, and just finished doing our
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  Speaker 1: weeklies with him pre draft. He's just as a try
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  Speaker 1: horrific job. Formerly a PFF. We'll talk to him about
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  Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. Also the NFC win totals. Those guys did that.
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  Speaker 1: Let's find out are the Rams the clear cut favorite?
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  Speaker 1: Feels like they are. We're to Seattle or to San Francisco.
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  Speaker 1: What about the Eagles after the AJ Brown trade? What
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  Speaker 1: kind does the power structure of the NFC look like?
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  Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that with Steve coming up in
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  Speaker 1: just a couple of minutes one o'clock. Our friend Hugh
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  Speaker 1: Braidlove Millon. It's been too long since we had Hugh on.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to join us coming up at one pm today.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk obviously football Seahawk Football. Also want to get
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  Speaker 1: his thoughts on the labor negotiations with MLB and MLBPA
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  Speaker 1: right now. Hugh was heavily involved as a player rep
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  Speaker 1: when he was in the NFL, so we'll kind of
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  Speaker 1: get his thoughts on that. I think should be some
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  Speaker 1: interesting insight from Hugh as well. Elijah Royal, second year
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  Speaker 1: tied in from the University of Miami, will join us
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  Speaker 1: from around two twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Five after practice is over.
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  Speaker 1: As always, your thoughts, comments, questions, concerns four nine, four
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  Speaker 1: for you as well.
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  Speaker 1: As the afternoon goes along, a lot of Seahawk football
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  Speaker 5: We're diving into the numbers and the grades around the
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  Speaker 5: Steve Pelozolo joins us right now. Thirty third Team check
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  Speaker 5: the mic podcast and we said, listen, I gotta I
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  Speaker 5: gotta catch up with Steve at some point and find
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  Speaker 5: out what's going on in the NFC West. All hell's
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  Speaker 5: breaking loose, Miles Garrett, what's going on there? Checking in
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  Speaker 5: with our guy right now. It's the off season, but
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  Speaker 5: there is no off season. Steve joins us. As I'm
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  Speaker 5: sitting here at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. We got
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  Speaker 5: a little ota is going on here today? Steve nothing
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  Speaker 5: screams a good time like June football practice.
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  Speaker 3: How are you.
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  Speaker 6: Doing?
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  Speaker 3: Great?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Enjoy practice today? That should be fun.
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  Speaker 4: It will be.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking through my and and I could say this
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  Speaker 3: my producer Andrews.
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  Speaker 1: He will, he will confirm he is a loyal check
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  Speaker 1: the mic podcast and listener as am I.
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  Speaker 6: I glanced it.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of the listen to it on the on
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  Speaker 1: the treadmill or the elliptical machine. I look, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see a Miles Garrett reaction yet.
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  Speaker 3: What's going on with you? And Sam?
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  Speaker 1: I need a reaction from you guys so here. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I'm calling you today, buddy, what's going on? What's
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  Speaker 1: going on with Miles Garrett? Help us out?
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  Speaker 3: You got to look closer. It was that we did
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  Speaker 3: an instant reaction, did I?
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  Speaker 2: They did the live the live reaction, like right as
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  Speaker 2: it happened.
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  Speaker 3: We did a live oh yeah, live reaction.
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  Speaker 4: We did it.
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  Speaker 3: We did that. Well.
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  Speaker 7: Well, we're gonna break it down in more detail tomorrow,
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  Speaker 7: but we'll get the head started. Yeah, I mean, the
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  Speaker 7: the rams are going that. I hate using the word
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  Speaker 7: all in because it implies like if now we're never
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  Speaker 7: this year. But I mean they're making aggressive moves. They
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  Speaker 7: are making very aggressive moves obviously. And Miles Garrett best
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  Speaker 7: defensive player in the NFL. We already know he's an
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  Speaker 7: unbelievable pass rusher, and not just because he had the
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  Speaker 7: sack record last year.
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  Speaker 3: You guys know me, It's not just about sacks.
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  Speaker 7: This guy wins one on ones, stresses the offensive tackles,
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  Speaker 7: he can.
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  Speaker 3: Move around, create mismatches.
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  Speaker 7: And Jared Versus a great player, the player that they
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  Speaker 7: gave up, so it makes for a fascinating trade. But yeah,
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  Speaker 7: Miles Garrett the very best player on the on the
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  Speaker 7: defensive side of the ball and just a down to
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  Speaker 7: down impact player.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, you know, once again old man Ian
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  Speaker 1: shows his age by just glancing down and seeing win
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  Speaker 1: totals NFC tam. Yeah, there was there was a reaction
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  Speaker 1: there and I will have to go back and listen
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  Speaker 1: to it. Got to get Sam's reaction as well. But
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  Speaker 1: let me go back because that is a key. Like
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  Speaker 1: I'll joking aside, we've been having you on for a
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  Speaker 1: few years now. And one of the things that you
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  Speaker 1: do a great job with, whether it was in the
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  Speaker 1: old days at PFF or now with check the Mic
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  Speaker 1: and thirty thirteen, it's not just about the sack numbers,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes your sack numbers are even a little bit different.
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  Speaker 1: It's about the win rates and everything else. Take us
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  Speaker 1: a little deeper into the numbers with Miles Scarrett. Let's
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  Speaker 1: the twenty three sacks is one thing. What else is
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  Speaker 1: he How else is he winning every down? I mean
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  Speaker 1: every every down. I don't work at PFF anymore, but
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  Speaker 1: they do a really good job of tracking this. You know,
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  Speaker 1: ESPN has their own version of win rate, So we
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  Speaker 1: do have a lot more advanced metrics now. And when
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  Speaker 1: you when you isolate pass rushers against blockers, whether they
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  Speaker 1: finish the player or not, you just get a really
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  Speaker 1: rich data set for Hey, do they win their one
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  Speaker 1: on ones?
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  Speaker 3: Do they win their interactions? And we hear a lot about.
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  Speaker 7: Football and how it can never be like baseball, and
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  Speaker 7: baseball's got you know, way more data and it's one
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  Speaker 7: on one pitch reverse hitter, and it's you know, football's
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  Speaker 7: got too many moving parts. But the offensive and defensive
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  Speaker 7: line is actually one of the richest data sets that
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  Speaker 7: you have in football to just isolate players because they
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  Speaker 7: do have a lot of one on one interactions and
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  Speaker 7: Garrett has been the very best for the last six
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  Speaker 7: to eight years winning those one on ones as a
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  Speaker 7: pass rusher. And again, sometimes the ball will get out
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  Speaker 7: very quickly and you don't feel that impact. Other times,
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  Speaker 7: first routes covered, second rountes covered, you know he could
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  Speaker 7: finish the play. But when you isolate, is he winning
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  Speaker 7: one on ones? Garrett does that the best, and he
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  Speaker 7: gets doubled as much, if not more, than any other
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  Speaker 7: edge rusher in the league. And so he's got the
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  Speaker 7: perfect combination of size speed. You watch some of the
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  Speaker 7: moves that he makes where his stride length is so long.
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  Speaker 7: He'll just get there in two strides. He's just on
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  Speaker 7: the offensive tackle before they can even get out of
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  Speaker 7: their stance, and then he can win with power. He
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  Speaker 7: could bend like these two hundred and forty pounds, but
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  Speaker 7: he's closer to two hundred and eighty. So he really
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  Speaker 7: does it all. And I like to use the word
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  Speaker 7: stress a lot. I mean, that's what he does to
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  Speaker 7: an offense. That's what he does to offensive tackles. He
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  Speaker 7: spent most of his time rushing against left tackles. And
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  Speaker 7: I think that's notable because I spend a lot of
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  Speaker 7: time arguing with Steelers fans through the years, Miles Garrett
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  Speaker 7: versus TJ.
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  Speaker 6: Watt.
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  Speaker 7: You know who's better and what would would be the
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  Speaker 7: guy that maybe had higher sack totals for a while,
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  Speaker 7: But we just said, look, Garrett impacts the game down
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  Speaker 7: to down just more than t J. Watt and anyone
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  Speaker 7: else really and against left tackles where the NFL still
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  Speaker 7: usually puts their better pass protector, whereas Watt you know,
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  Speaker 7: would be on the right side against against right tackles.
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  Speaker 7: And so Garrett has has done it all. He can
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  Speaker 7: move around if needed, and it just it just adds
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  Speaker 7: another weapon to that, to that Rams defense.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Palazolo joining is Steve you mentioned the double teams?
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  Speaker 1: Is it a necessity? Like I mean when you're watching him,
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  Speaker 1: you know, over the last couple of years, especially even
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  Speaker 1: last year, but our teams almost always double teaming him
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  Speaker 1: in a passing situation.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, And it's similar to Aaron Donald And look, I
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  Speaker 7: think to it it's not as simple as you know,
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  Speaker 7: put an extra blocker. I think you have to get creative.
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  Speaker 7: You have to move the pocket on early downs. You
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  Speaker 7: have to chip with a running back, chip with a
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  Speaker 7: tight end. You have to do multiple things, you know,
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  Speaker 7: sometimes send the guard over there with an eye toward him,
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  Speaker 7: you know, to to cover the inside.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, you you absolutely they need to give him
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  Speaker 3: proper attention.
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  Speaker 7: And Garrett's career, you know, there was a point where
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  Speaker 7: the Browns didn't have any defensive line help back in
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  Speaker 7: twenty twenty two or so, and then in twenty three
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  Speaker 7: they started to add some pieces and the twenty three
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  Speaker 7: defense was outstanding, that was top five in the league.
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  Speaker 7: Twenty four took a bit of a step back, they
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  Speaker 7: had some injuries, but twenty five, again they were one
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  Speaker 7: of the best in the league. And they did it
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  Speaker 7: with primarily with a four man rush, much like Houston
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  Speaker 7: four man rush, exclusively relying on that front four, not
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  Speaker 7: needing to blitz.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the added weapon that Garrett brings too.
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  Speaker 7: So when he's either winning or drawing attention, it does
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  Speaker 7: open it up for everyone else as long as they're
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  Speaker 7: good enough. And again, the Rams that already have a
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  Speaker 7: very good defensive line, and now you upgrade from Verse
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  Speaker 7: to Garrett, and again, it just puts so much stress
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  Speaker 7: and pressure on that offensive front.
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything he doesn't do well? Tell me, like
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  Speaker 1: he's not good against the run or something. Give me,
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  Speaker 1: give me, give a seahawk, something will He's a good
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  Speaker 1: run defender too. He'll get sucked inside a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes he won't.
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  Speaker 7: You know, the play could bounce out outside of his area,
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  Speaker 7: or you know, it doesn't shed quickly enough on you know,
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  Speaker 7: a run that goes you know to his inside. But
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  Speaker 7: but he's good there too, uses his hands, uses his flexibility.
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  Speaker 7: Uh sees pullers and you know sifters, you know those
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  Speaker 7: backside cut off blocks.
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  Speaker 3: He sees those well and handles them well.
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  Speaker 7: And so yeah, he's a he's a good I mean
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  Speaker 7: he's not He's not like a top three run defender
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  Speaker 7: or anything. I think a guy like Max Crosby might
• 14:23
  Speaker 7: be better. But he's still very good in the run game.
• 14:26
  Speaker 7: So yeah, he's good. He's good all around.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: Sorry, we know, I know it's I didn't expect anything
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: more than than that. So Steve Belizola joining us, you
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: guys did your NFC win totals. I'm not a huge fan,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna try to do this anyway of the
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: following the whole power rankings, but based on like win totals,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: it's it has to be safe to say right that
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: the Rams are the premium like they're the on pay
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: for the best team in the NFC.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: I would think right now, you've got.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: Ad Miles Garrett, you added both Trent McDuffie and Jalen Watson,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: so you've done You've done those things, like and that
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: was a team that was literally one play away from
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl. And I think, as we saw,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: probably one play away from going to the super Bowl
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: means you win the Super Bowl this past year. Are
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: the Rams clearly the team that you think is the
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: best team right now in the NFC or not.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: I think they are.
• 15:15
  Speaker 7: I think they're the they on paper champions of the
• 15:18
  Speaker 7: offseason right now. And look, I can hear Seahawks fans
• 15:21
  Speaker 7: right now, we're the defending champs. We were better last year.
• 15:23
  Speaker 7: And what's interesting is a lot of those power rankings,
• 15:27
  Speaker 7: you know, you look at the two deep, you look
• 15:28
  Speaker 7: at the starting twenty two, and I think you could
• 15:31
  Speaker 7: make an argument that the Rams starting twenty two was
• 15:33
  Speaker 7: better than Seattle earmuffs right now, Just for a second,
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: Seattle fans that they were starting twenty two was better
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: than the Seahawks last year. But clearly Seattle was better
• 15:42
  Speaker 7: all around. Their team defense was outstanding, some of their depth,
• 15:46
  Speaker 7: but the real difference between those two teams last year
• 15:48
  Speaker 7: was special teams. And you know, the Seahawks being one
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: of the better special teams units in the in the
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: league and the Rams being one of the worst. I mean,
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: the Rams lost three or four games on special teams alone,
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: including the game up in Seattle with the funky two
• 16:03
  Speaker 7: point conversion and everything.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: So those things aren't going to show up in power
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: rankings right now.
• 16:07
  Speaker 7: And even at the end towards the end of last season,
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: the whole time of like Seattle really better than the Rams?
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Are they really better? And then eventually it's like, yeah,
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: they are. They're better all around teams.
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: If they can maintain that piece of it, the special
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: teams and winning on the edges, then maybe that overcomes
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: what the Rams have done. But the Rams are really good,
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: and the two deep looks outstanding. The starting twenty two
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: looks as good as we've seen I think in the
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: NFL over the last few years. So yeah, I think
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: the Rams are the best team in the NFL. Right now,
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: what do McDuffie and Watson do for them? I mean
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: that was their weakness last year. The Rams defense has
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: gone through a really good It's just an interesting evolution.
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: I think early in twenty twenty four they weren't that great.
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: But if you remember the end of the twenty four season,
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford's play tapered off, but it didn't matter.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: That defense went through a stretch.
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: I think it was seven out of eight games they
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: allowed like thirteen or fewer points. I mean, they are
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: really good. At the end of twenty twenty four, they
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: were the ones who gave Sam Donald all those problems
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: and in the playoff game. So the Rams defense was
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: really good at the end of twenty four. They turned
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: a corner. Early in twenty five, it looks the same
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: until they did hit some patches where they got picked
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: apart in the secondary. And now all of a sudden,
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: you have Trenton McDuffie. You just you have the Chiefs
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: corners and those guys McDuffie and Watson. They're used to
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: playing man coverage. McDuffie could play inside or outside I
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: think the Rams have a ton of flexibility now on
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: the back end with their inside outside flexibility.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: And again they could they could play a little bit
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: more man.
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: And I don't know that they're overhauling their scheme, but
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: where Garrett came from with the with the Browns, they
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: played a lot of pressman coverage and they rushed four
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: and the Rams are not that type of team. But
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: it just it just adds that to the playbook. Potentially, Hey,
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: we can get home with four. We could trust our
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: corners on an island if needed. And I just think
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: it brings a lot of flexibility on the back end
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: and made one of last year's weaknesses to the Rams
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: team potentially a strength.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: And just in Matthew Stafford is amazing.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I like, I know again, I guess I'll
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: say the same thing Steves andd Seahawk fans closure, you know,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: put your hands or ears if you want.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: But he's amazing. I mean, thirty eight years old.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I guess the only question was Stafford is health right?
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Can he can he hold up another year as he
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: did last year with that MVP campaign.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: That was what was most impressive.
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: Remember last year we were talking about the hyper barrack
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: chamber bus that they were getting for him. Whatever they had, right,
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: they had like, he's got his own bus out there.
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: I'm like, man, I could use that.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I might.
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: I'm actually making my return to pitching. Maybe tonight after
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: fourteen years. I might throw an in, right, and I
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: need the bus. I need Stafford's he's join the pack. Yeah,
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: you can piggyback. You can do the piggyback. We're big
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: out there out here and Seattle with the piggyback.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, I want to do that.
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: I got an inning, Tell my tell my former team
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: that I got an inning, and maybe we'll see. We'll
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: see what I'm doing. See if scouts come, come watch
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: me tonight. But you know, Stafford's Stafford's health last year
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: it seemed like it was going to be a question,
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: and then mcveigh's answering questions all vaguely during training camp
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: and all this. He has the best season of his career.
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: So but in other years we've seen him thumb injuries
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: and back injuries and like weird back injuries to pop up.
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: So yeah, certainly the health for Stafford is a big one.
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: But he looked great last year. He was throwing it
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: really well, and we know what he can do in
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: late game comeback situations. So yeah, Stafford outstanding and him
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: and mcveil. McVeigh continues to evolve too. I know a
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: lot of people are like, hey, you know, the whole
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: league's copy in McVeigh. But there was a point where
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: McVeigh was not great at being ahead of the curve
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: and he was a little bit more like stuck in
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: his ways, say five six years ago. Now he's doing
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: a better job of staying ahead of things, putting Stafford
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: in a position to succeed. And you know, as long
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: as Stafford does stay healthy, yeah, of course, you know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: I think the Rams will be there, you know, at
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: least in the mix at the end.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Here McVeigh and Shanahan offensively versus Mike McDonald defensively is
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: just I mean, it's going to be so much fun
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: with the next few years to watch these guys in
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: this division speaking that. We're very concerned out here with
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: our neighborhood. Our neighbors are not pleasant in the NFC
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: West Eve Rams, they're the Navy. You really hate dogs
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: always barking, They just keep chirping. You just can't get
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: rid of them. But you know what who's almost is
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: annoying would be the San Francisco forty nine ers now
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: aging some injuries and so forth. I'll have people listen
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to the Check of Mike podcast for the NFC win totals.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: But I will ask you this, where do you have
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers in in terms of win totals?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: And that there's kind of the power of the NFC
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: So Niners fans get so frustrated with us, I think
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: because we do a lot of depth chart. You know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: you look at the depth chart, you look at the analogy,
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: you look at the roster and think they can't possibly
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: be as good as they are. And you know, coming
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: off of us disappointing six win season last year, they're
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: coming off a rough twenty four and they're over there
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: playing Seattle for the number one seed at the end
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: of the season. And so that was a shock, to
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: be honest, with all the injuries that the Niners had
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: with Nick Bosa, with Fred Warner. So I look at
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: they're too deep and say, look, they've taken a huge hit.
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: They made the Super Bowl in twenty twenty three. I
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: think their depth has taken a hit. The Deebo Sangles
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: of the world aren't there. Brandon Aiyuk's no longer there.
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: The defensive line used to roll eight deep, and now
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: that's been basically overhauled. It's Nick Bosa and a whole
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: lot bunch of first second year players. So it doesn't
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: look great on paper. But Kyle Shanahan is an outstanding coach.
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: I know he takes heat for never won the Big
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: One and conference championships and Super Bowl failures or whatever,
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: but just getting to those points isn't so as long
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: as Shanahan's there, I think the offense will be good enough. Also,
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: Brock Perdy's I think the best quarterback he's had since
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: Matt Ryan's MVP season of sixteen. Since Matt Ryan, basically,
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: I think Purdy has elevated that offense, you know, from
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: the Jimmy Garoppolo era, and we're still seeing that even
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: with Perdy making more money and you know, some of
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: the talent decreasing. So all that to say, I think
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: the Niners they're in like a half rebuild where they're
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: relying on a lot of young players, but they're still
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: managing to be really good because of Kyle Shanahan. So
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: that was really impressible. See what happens with the defense,
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: They have to rush the passer better. It doesn't look
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: great on paper compared to where it was, as they
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: should be a step down compared to Seattle and the Rams.
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: But as far as the week to week, will they
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: be there at the end, Yeah, I think so because
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: of Shanahan and Party being able to get that offense cooking.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Steve Pel's ola Joni's for a couple more moments, Steve,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the worst kept secret in the NFL was it? AJ
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Brown was going to the Patriots. We won't get into
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: all the reasons why that was the worst kept.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Secret, but it was.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt we all know what was going on there.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: So AJ Brown goes to the Patriots and that has
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to hurt, does it not? The Philadelphia Eagles? I know
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: he was at times in and out and he is
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: who he is, but that's got it. That's a little
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: bit of a hit for them.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: I mean, look, if you look at AJ Brown's career
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: and there's a handful of receivers where you could play
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: this game, Tyreek Hill is one of them.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: You get to see them in two different situations. You
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: get to see what they've done in those situations.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: AJ Brown was there for Ryan Tannehill's two best years
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: of his career, way back right his early Titans career,
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: and a lot of people are like, oh, they had
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: Dereck Henry, That's why Tannehill was so good.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: It's like, eh, may have been AJ Brown that was
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: really the.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: Catalyst for Ryan Tannehill's passing stats, you know, being through
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: the roof in the twenty eighteen nineteen range.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: And so I think that was AJ Brown.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: And then he goes to Philadelphia and nobody knew what
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: Philly had in Jalen Hurts coming off the twenty twenty
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: one season, and all of a sudden in twenty two,
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: Hurtz looks great stats, go through the roof, they go
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: to the Super Bowl, and so I think A J.
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: Brown has been a huge catalyst for QB performance being
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: elevated twice now with Ryan Tannehill and with Jalen Hurts,
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: much like we've seen Tyreek Hill, you know, breaking the
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: league with Patrick Mahomes, but also leading to up to
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: some Gaudi stats as well. I mean, these elite receivers
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: on the outside can do that. So I think AJ
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: Brown still has a lot left in the tank. Maybe
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: not as much as he did, but I think that
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: has a chance to really elevate the Patriots adding him,
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: adding Romeo Dobbs, giving Drake May that outside playmaker in
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: aj Brown, and then for Philadelphia it's there's pressure on Hurts.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: It's a lot like Purdy.
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: A couple of years ago, you could say, well, purdy
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: stats are through the roof because Kyle Shanahan, Kyle's gotten
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: everybody to play well at quarterback. He's just a system guy.
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: And there was a kernel of truth in that Shanahan
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: does elevate the quarterbacks. But we've seen Purdy lose some
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: talent and maintain his efficiency for the most part and
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: maybe elevate his game. And I think that just puts
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: more pressure on Jalen Hurts to do that, to maybe
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: throw to the field a little bit more. They got
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: some weapons in the draft and McKayle lemon, Eli Stowers,
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: they attacked the middle of the field. They're gonna stitch
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: it together on the outside with guys like Marquise Brown
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: don Tavian Wicks coming in. So yeah, it's the first
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: time we've really seen Hurts in a full season as
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: a starter without aj Brown and you just have to
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: see that next evolution of his game to But I
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: think it will be challenging not having AJ Brown in
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: there because defense has had to account for him, plus
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: the fact that he could just take over games at
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: any given time for the most for the majority of
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: his career.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were obviously planning for it. I mean
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: the Mkaile Lemons obviously, I mean the draft, how they
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: approached the draft. They were they knew this was going
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: to happen. Maybe Diana had told him already, but yeah,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: this was going to happen. They were ready to rock
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: and roll. But yeah, it just feel like a step back.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Although I love Lemon. Watched him, I mean watching him
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: at USC he was special, all right. So Steve, first
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: of all, thanks for doing this in the off season.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Second of all, we're looking forward to resuming in the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: fall with you again on a weekly basis.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Love doing it. We're we're convinced and have a strong
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: conviction to make that happen. If you'll be back with us,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: we may or may not bother you before then.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: But in the meantime, for folks who want to get
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: all the great NFL talk and conversation going with you
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: and Sam?
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: How do they do so?
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Where do they check it out? In terms of checking
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: the mic.
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: We're all over YouTube, check the mic wherever you listen
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: to your podcast, Apple, Spotify.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Whatever it may be.
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: And yeah, we we have some fun in the off
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: season looking at all thirty two teams. And yeah, I
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: got to send a thank you text to less Need
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: for keeping things interesting here during the off season with
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: the aggressive Wiles Garrett trade. So we'll be talking about
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: more of that on tomorrow show.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Listen, you send that to him because he's not getting
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: any thanky notes from up here. And see how I
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: can tell you that right now, Like there's no there's
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: no thing. And if if another certain shoe drops that
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: used to wear big number ninety nine, if that for
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: some reason, it's oh god, I even getting.
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: I think there's a chance. I think there's a chance.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: Aaron Donald's like, all right, let's see what happens here.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: The dude's still in shape.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: He can bring Max Crosby to Seattle.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Anybody can do it.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we go get Max Crosby or so, yeah,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: we gotta go get Crosby and Seattle or something. Watching
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: that watching that Beast working out just for fun and retirement. Like,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I'm tired on the elliptical for thirty minutes. Man, this
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: guy's out there just banging through stuff and looking like
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: he's ready to go. It's I can't even fathom even
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: twenty snaps a game with that guy less sneed stop it,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: stop it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: We're done, we've moved. What's moving? Me and Aaron Donald.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Me and Aaron Donald coming out of retirement the same year. Hey,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: the piggyback is there for you. You can be what
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: do they call it the opener? He can be an
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: old video opener. Yeah, yes, one inning and I'm out
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: of here.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: One inning and hopefully, you know, maybe about twenty pitches
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: and then and then you're done.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this had a one dive instead of the five
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: and dive exactly.
• 27:05
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• 28:01
  Speaker 1: with Steve a little earlier today just to get his thoughts.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I certainly don't feel better. Anders don't feel better. I
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: don't feel better.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: He I mean, how can you right?
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  Speaker 3: You're not?
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  Speaker 1: And Hu Mullin's coming out at one. He's gonna tell
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: us the same thing. This guy is a stud, which
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: we all knew, but yeah, everyone knows that. Yeah, it's
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for a glimmer of hope and the only
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: glimmer is his age. Yeah, right, Like that's the one
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: thing and just the if you just kind of go
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: through the age of him, of Miles Garrett, Matt Stafford.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: But yeah, dude, Garrett's not even that old though.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: He's like, what thirty one, he'll be thirty one this season,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, but like you're on the north end of
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: that as a sure football player and a guy that
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: plays in the trenches.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: That's well, and you got rid of a guy a
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: stud that was twenty five.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Right, There's there's something that I'm gonna ask you about
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: this on when he comes along with us, because he
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: made a comment in the Day of Softy and I've
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: been fascinated by it since he was talking about Miles
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Garrett's second step and and and I'm like, because usually
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: you hear like, oh, his first step is like you
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: hear about a pass rusher, right, first step is x
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: oh it's explosive, And he was talking about his second
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: step is jumped off the film at I'm like, I'm
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: fascinated by that because, yeah, it's a little different. He
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: does some sort of like eurostep thing or something that's
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: kind of wild and wow. Yeah, Charles Cross is. I
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: wonder what his thoughts were when he saw that.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess the one I realized that maybe you
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: can make this comparison. But everyone was on the Green
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Bay Packers Super Bowl hype train when they traded for
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Micah Parsons last year, right, yeah, and that I mean, yeah,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: you could you could argue it worked for them, but
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: it didn't necessarily take them over the top.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Their defense wasn't great though, right, their defense really remember
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the game, like I think the as soon as I
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: thought I remember now, they remember towards ACL the.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: End of the year exactly. Yeah.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Right, So, but remember with Micah Parsons and that just
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: had Green Bay defense. Remember when Cincinnati went in there
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and they were just awful, right, and they rolled up
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: like five hundred yards of offense or something on it
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: right hit Lambeau and you're like, uh, what's going on? Yeah,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen with the Rams. I mean,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the Corners are too good. You know, they had a
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: stud linebacker. They're they're gonna be fine. The thing with
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the NFL and and I'm not gonna pull a softy
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: and root for guys to get hurt. But but you
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: just we just talked about Green Bay. I mean, Michael
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: parsonst ends up turning as ACL in December. It's such
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: a violent game with such big, physical players, like guys
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: are gonna get hurt. And I thought what Steve said
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: was interesting about Seattle's roster and that is just the
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: depth of it, and like you're going to lose guys
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: during the year. That's just the natural attrition that the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: league gives you enhands to every team every year. It's
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: who you lose and who you have behind those players
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: that determines whether or not a team is a playoff team,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a contending team or not. Right, Like Seattle survived a
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: lot of injuries at the safety position last year because
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: they had Tayo Katta exactly right and he was able
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: to step up. They ended up surviving, you know, some
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: injuries at the receiver position, specific with a guy that
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: was when he was in there was a red zone
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: machine and a touchdown machine in Tory Horton, uh and
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: they ended up going and getting Rashid Chi heat right right,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: you know when Horton got hurt.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: So it's it's like who do you have.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: At key positions in terms of backups? How do you
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: how healthy do you stay?
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I mean I think you can even point if nothing
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: else to to Drew Locke. He's not Sam Darnold, but
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Drew lock is a competent backup quarterback, right if he
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: needs to play a game or two. Yeah, so like
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: but but natural attrition in the league will take place
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Well, and it's not just the players that are available,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: right because I would argue that if Tyo Katta was
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: anyone else's backup safety. I mean, he's a great player,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but I feel like him. With
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: the Mike McDonald's system, the Saws are better suited to
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: losing those guys than almost any other team.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Right, and then and then who steps up like last
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: year was Drake Thomas ends up being an absolute study.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: The h makes a play of the year, and it's
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: the start. I'm gonna tell you right now, there is
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: no chance a year ago, right now that I'd be
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: sitting out here and I was at the Virginia based
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Athletics Center saying, God, I should we should probably get
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: to know Drake Thomas a little bit. So we talked
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to Drake Thomas.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Who's gonna be that guy?
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: This year.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I think a guy could be the guy we're talking
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: to you two twenty five in roil.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, he might be one of those guys that
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: takes that takes that second you know, that second year
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: step uh and ends up kind of you know, doing
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: some things like well, where'd that guy come from?
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Like, I could be that guy? H I mean, who knows?
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Could it be.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: JACRTI are right, I don't know, you know, it could be. Well, listen,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the rookie class has made an impact each in the
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: last couple of years.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: So you know which of those guys I mean is
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: a Bud Clark.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Not just Price, but you know, Riley Wills is a
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: popular choice.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I'd say Riley Mills might be the guy I was
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: talking about Greg earlier.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean kind of red shirted last season and
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: then came on and played obviously a little bit in
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: the regular season, and then oh, I'm gonna get a
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: sack in the Super Bowl?
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I was like, who probably the most. If you were
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: to ask anyone what play they remember from the Super Bowl,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: it's probably that one.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: It might be.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it represents exactly what happens.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: It's such a non descript Super Bowl. Yeah what I mean, Yeah, yeah, it's.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and there they manage their players really well,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: like there's a bunch of veterans that are here that
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: aren't practicing. For example, today I was just out there
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: in the break and I was watching some stuff and
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I walked by the weight room and Jared Reid was
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: standing there and exchanged pleasantries with him for a second.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: And you know he's in there lifting and stuff. You know,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: he's here going through the meetings, lifting doing stuff. He
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: didn't need to be on the field. We all know
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: what he could do, right, all right, Well, take a break,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: come back, Hu mill And is going to join us.
• 33:51
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  Speaker 1: Hour number two of the show You fronounced with you
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. And because we are here,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I do want to talk a lot of football with
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: my friend Hugh Millen, which I will get to at
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: some point here on the radio show, but he joins
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: us right now. Before I get to football, Hugh, I
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: want to talk business of sports with you for a minute.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: First.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: How are you, my friend? I'm well, good to be
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: with you, Ian.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get you on because I know this
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: is we've talked about this off and on over the
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: years that you and I've done stuff in reference to
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the few times for people that don't know, when Hugh
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: was in the NFL, I believe almost the entirety of
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: your career, but a good chuck of it. At least
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: you were a player rep for the NFL Players Association,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: right I was, Yeah.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: And in year two I.
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: Was flown back to Washington, DC as a representative of
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: the Los Angeles RAMS, and I was testifying to our
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: state of readiness during the strike. This is nineteen eighty seven,
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: and at this point I was a rep and Basically,
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: the NFL owners were trying to say that we weren't
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: ready to play coming off of three weeks of having struck,
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: and so we were battling over a week's worth of wages.
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: And by the way that the players at that time
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: who struck to acquire the free agency that these players
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: now enjoy, we lost three game checks, never gotten back,
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: and we understand that's part of the that's part of
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: the evolution, the advancement of the game, and we had
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: it better than the players before us, and we're fighting
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: for the players behind us. But specifically, then fast forward
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: to all the way ahead seven years later when we
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: finally got the free agency, that really has been a springboard.
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: I think all numbers and all reasoning suggests that you know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: ever since the nineteen ninety three CBA, the player the
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: owners wanted rather to control the player costs, the players
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: wanted freedom and free agency. And since nineteen ninety three
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: you've seen franchise values, TV contracts, players salaries all just surge, explode,
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: competitive balances improved. There's numbers to support that, and the
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: NFL is the most dominant sports league, if not in
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: the world, certainly in this country. That's undebatable, So you know,
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: it was an interesting process. So I do take interest
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: in what I'm seeing in the baseball world and our
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: compatriots of sorts in the professional sports arena, and how
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: they're going to handle this well.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: And it's interesting.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: And that's why I wanted to get you on because
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: it's a different sport, but I knew you would be
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: taking an interest in it and watching it keenly. As
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the negotiations are in the very very early stages between
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: the Players Association for Major League Baseball and the owners
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: of Major League Baseball. The timing is interesting when you
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: go back to the early mid nineties, as you mentioned,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: because the NFL as we know it today was established
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: in ninety three and ninety four, and of course nineteen
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: ninety four we lost the World Series in baseball with
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the lockout at the end of the year.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: That was based yeah, and that was based on.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: The last time it was really kind of the last
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: time the owners really pushed hard for a salary cap.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: What similarities do you see in what baseball is just
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: beginning to undergo right now and what you guys did
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three.
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: Well, I think that they in some ways they come
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: from completely opposite ends of position where they're trying to
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: get to a similar point. And when I got drafted
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: in eighty six, Let's say Joe Montana was the best
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: player in the NFL. When his contract expired with the
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: forty nine ers, there was a term called player indemnity.
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: He was still the property of the forty nine ers.
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: He had no leverage in negotiations other than, hey, you're
• 39:39
  Speaker 8: not going to be as good a team without me, which,
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: of course that leverage would decline once the forty nine
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: ers acquired Steve Young. So there really wasn't a lot
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: of leverage for the players. And so the players in
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: fighting for free agency, they wanted to have that competition,
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: that freedom of movement that everybody enjoys. I mean, if
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: you want to leaven, you know, take a job in
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: Boston as a sports radio guy and you get double
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: the money.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: You know you, you, you know you.
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: And in this industry, in every industry, there's there's freedoms
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: that we enjoy and that's protected by the anti trust
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: laws now the and so what happened with the football
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: players is we we we clearly have a situation where
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: the draft. Just take for example, one mode of controlling players.
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: The draft is patently anti trust. That's a nobody disputes that.
• 40:32
  Speaker 8: Just take that as a brute fact that the draft
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: is anti trust to just say, well, we're going to
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: constrain where you live. But if it is agreed upon
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: in collective bargain agreement. What happens in these federal courts
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: is that the Wagner Labor Act supersedes the Sherman Anti
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: Trust Act.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: What does that mean.
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: It means that labor laws they take dominance and if
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: you collectively bargain your rights in anti trust court away,
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: then you no longer have an anti trust claim. So
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: that would be important to the owners. And at the
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: point of around nineteen ninety three, the NFL union decertified
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: and okay, what was that process. What that was trying
• 41:16
  Speaker 8: to do is get that is a threat to the
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: owner saying listen, we're going to decertify as a union,
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: so you can't use the labor laws to supersede the
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: anti trust laws. Once we decertify as a union, you
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: are exposed in anti trust court that your draft isn't
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: and the player indemnity. These are violations of anti trust.
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: So now that's our leverage, and so from that we
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: were able to extract pension increases, retirement improvements, higher minimum salaries,
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: what have you, and a floor. This is an important point,
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: the floor with the salary caps. So we came from
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: a position of no free agency trying to acquire free agency.
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: The players in baseball, they're coming almost from an opposite
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: you know, path, and that being that they have free agency.
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: And you say, what about the baseball and then I
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: trust exemption that really only pertains to a team movement
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: and minor leagues and what have you. The Kurt Flood
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: ruling and resolution basically allowed for players to have free agency. Okay,
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: so the players have had it. What we're talking about
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: is a salary cap. That's the important point. The players
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: who have not had a salary cap in baseball, they
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: are bocking at having a salary cap, and I think
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: that's foolish, and we'll get to that in a second.
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: But the players from football, we never had a construct
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: where we had free agency but no salary cap. Salary
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: cap was part of that was embedded into the agreement.
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: The owners were going to have a salary cap, and
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: then we in tured said okay, if you want to
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: have a salary cap, then we have to have a
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: minimum as well. And that's what has been so effective
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: for the NFL. It is mandated that that that eighty
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: nine percent of the salary cap has spent and teams
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: will be penalized if they don't. So you see right now,
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: for example, the discrepancy and payroll this most recent year
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: the Dodgers and Marlins. The Dodgers at three hundred and
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: seventy three million this is for their twenty twenty five
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: seasons to three hundred and seventy three million, and the
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: Marlins are are seventy three million. There's a four hundred
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: and eleven percent difference.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. In football.
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: This most recent season twenty twenty five, the highest paid team,
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: uh the gap between was at two hundred and seventy
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: nine million, the lowest at two hundred and forty eight million.
• 43:44
  Speaker 8: That's only a twelve percent different. So do you see
• 43:49
  Speaker 8: how fundamentally different the are twelve percent difference between four
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: hundred and eleven percent different. So so the the the
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: players in baseball are right to say, well, we have
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: a salary minimum, but I think they're mistaken to balk
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: at the salary cap. I think it because here's the
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: thing we had, and this is an important point. The
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: players we in the NFL. Let me go back to
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: nineteen ninety three. We say, well, we have to have
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: What was important to us is let's have a percentage
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: of what was called DGR, the designated Gross revenues or
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: also called the defined gross revenues.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: And you say, what was that?
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: That was primarily? That was just that was television revenue
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: and ticket revenue primarily. And so we had and there
• 44:38
  Speaker 8: was varying scales based on revenue. And I'm not going
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: to get in the details, but it varied between fifty
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: nine percent and sixty four percent. Got me through for
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: the first twenty years. Then in twenty eleven we went
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: back to the table and we said, okay, not just
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: the DGR because by this point the NFL had become
• 44:55
  Speaker 8: a media empire. They you know, they had the NFL network,
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: they had digital media. So the players then said, okay,
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: we're not gonna have the DGR and be somewhere in
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: the fifty nine to sixty four percent rate. We're going
• 45:07
  Speaker 8: to be at forty eight percent of all revenue. So
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: we have a big drop in revenue. But the pie
• 45:14
  Speaker 8: is much bigger because now we're saying we want the
• 45:16
  Speaker 8: percentage of the NFL network. The digital media Rights also
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: sponsors sponsorships league wide sponsorships which are different than the
• 45:25
  Speaker 8: television networks. The luxury suites which caused Model to leave
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: Cleveland and go to Baltimore. Like all of that. Now,
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: all of a sudden, it's not DGR, it's AR. What's
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: AR all revenue? So now the players are at forty
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: eight percent. And then when when they accepted the seventeen
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: game season, it went from forty eight to forty eight
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: point eight percent. Lock that in. Write that down, Anders,
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: write that down. Forty eight point eight percent. That is
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: the all revenue the players have. Now, let's talk about baseball.
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: Baseball right now is at forty seven percent. In two
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: thousand and two they are at fifty seven. They fell
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: to a in the mid teams down to forty four percent.
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: They've called back to forty seven percent. Andrews, what was
• 46:09
  Speaker 8: the number? I said that the NBA point so the
• 46:12
  Speaker 8: so baseball. And by the way, when I was a
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: player REP, I'm not trying to dunk on baseball. I
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: conceded regularly throughout my tenure as a player rep that
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: baseball had a better union than us. They were just
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: they were more solidified, they were more together. So I'm
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: not trying to to flex on baseball. I'm just looking at, Okay,
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: what what is common sense? From my analysis? What now?
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: I think that baseball players they are adhering to some dictum,
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: some axiom, that a relative that's been handed down to
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: them through the generations. And I don't think that they're
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: considering what is likely to happen, what I believe is
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: likely to happen. If they accept, first of all, they
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: go from forty seven to fifty, then they so there
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: the total amount is going to be increased, and that's that,
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: that's the percentage of the pie. But I also believe
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: that the pie will increase because the competitive the competition
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: will increase, and the interest will increase. Right now, you've
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: got a third of baseball owners that are just punting.
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: They don't care about their payroll. They just want to
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: get the luxury tax from the more expensive teams. They
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: don't even spend it. And so so what there is
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: the difference between the the NFL and the and the
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: Major League Baseball professional sports. We are competing for your
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: interest in the realm uh. It is a service, and
• 47:47
  Speaker 8: it is an entertainment service. And we are competing against
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: Taylor Swift Inner concerts, right, rolling Stones in a concert.
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: What's different. I've been to the Stones in my favor.
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: I've been the same Stones concerts. I pretty much know
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: what I'm gonna get when I go to a Stones concert,
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: when I go to a baseball game. What's central to
• 48:08
  Speaker 8: that entertainment value is the uncertainty. It's the entertainment value
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: of two competitively matched teams. So this has been a
• 48:17
  Speaker 8: core tenet of the NFL for decades, even going back
• 48:21
  Speaker 8: to the to the fifties when the mayor is Wellington
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: Marrow was saying, no, the Packers are going to get
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: the same share of TV revenue as the Giants because
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: we have to have the entertainment value of two competitively
• 48:34
  Speaker 8: matched teams. So what I would argue to with a
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: modern baseball player is, look, you're at forty seven percent.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: You've always bragged.
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: About how you're better than the NFL Union, and in fact,
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: most years you have been, But right now you're trailing
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: the NFL Union in terms of your percentage. Moreover, your
• 48:50
  Speaker 8: pie is too small. Your premier.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Event.
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: The World Series in this decade has less viewers than
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: the NFL's draft selection event. Like, think of that, And
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: so if I'm a baseball player, I'm saying, what would
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: possibly grow the popularity of baseball? What would grow the
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: popularity of baseball is increasing the parody and so that
• 49:23
  Speaker 8: all thirty teams and the fans of all thirty teams
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: view this as.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: A competitive league.
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: Now you're gonna throw things out, Like for every stat
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: you can throw at me saying that there's parody about, well,
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: how many teams have made the World Series?
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: What have you?
• 49:37
  Speaker 8: I'll throw five or ten back in your face that
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: show that baseball is lagging way behind the NFL. Take,
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: for example, the top ten spending champions from nineteen ninety
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: eight to twenty twenty five. That's when we first had
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: the thirty teams in maje. In football, you only have
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: ten of twenty eight under thirty six percent of the
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: Super Bowl champions, we're in the top ten. In baseball,
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: it's seventy one percent. In terms of the correlation, if
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: you just like just base of Excel, write a column
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: for wins, write a column for payroll, and run a
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: correlation stat the NFL is point zero five zero. Think
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: of a baseball player with a batting average of zero
• 50:30
  Speaker 8: fifty fifty. The closer you are to zero, that's the closest.
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: That means irrelevant. That's like what color is the gator EIGHTE,
• 50:37
  Speaker 8: purple or red? It would have no correlation on winning.
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: Remember that number anders zero fifty for the NFL, Sicksnyder.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, right.
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: Now, let's run the same correlation dollars to wins on
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: baseball five point fifty. So you go from zero fifty
• 50:57
  Speaker 8: in football to five fifty.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: So don't tell me that.
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: Like again, you can cherry pick a stat and throw
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: it at me that say, oh, on baseball has been competitive,
• 51:07
  Speaker 8: my ass has been competitive compared to football because because
• 51:11
  Speaker 8: if you do find that one stat, trust me, I
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: got five or ten more to dunk on you. So
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: don't And what's the net takeaway? Football is far more
• 51:21
  Speaker 8: competitive in terms of and and is blind. The results
• 51:28
  Speaker 8: in football are blind to payroll. That's the assertion. The
• 51:32
  Speaker 8: numbers can support it in like a Rubik's cube, the top,
• 51:36
  Speaker 8: the bottom, the side, any side.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, and here's the thing, like, not all salary
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: caps are created equal either like because like we all
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: know the NBA how the NBA salary cap works. The
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: luxury tax kicks in, and you know owners can spend
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: well past that to the double and triple as you
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: know all those numbers that it's been for. It's been
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: years obviously since the Sonics were here, but I mean,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: I'm working in Portland for a number of years. I
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: remember we used to always laugh, like the salary cap
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: meant nothing to Paul Allen, right, Like I'll bring Scottie in,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I'll pay him in rashid and I'll go thirty million
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: over the cap, and I'll spend ninety million to go
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: thirty million over whatever it would be in the map.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: So like that, I don't think the NBA cap works.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: For example, it's a softcap versus a softcapp. Yeah, the
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: NHL cap is a funny one right now because it's
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: a hard cap. And I'm laughing because the guy that
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: just bought the Blazers, Tom Dunnan, noans in Carolina Hurricanes.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: He's getting all this credit. Well, you know, he's spending
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: more money on hockey. The hockey salary cap is like
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: the NFL cap. Everyone's within a few million of the
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: ceiling like you're right there, right you you really it
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: would take some pretty big stones to say, hey, we're
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: gonna twenty three guys are gonna pay him a million each?
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Did have a twenty three million dollar You're not gonna
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: do that, right, It's just not gonna happen. So you're
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: up to the cap. So for baseball to work, it
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: would have to be a similar cap to the NFL,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: or even the NHL, a harder cap. Let me wrap
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: it up with this because I want to talk. We'll
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: bring it back the next Saven talk Mile Scarrett. This
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: is one thing we've talked about a lot. I would say, think, Hugh,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: the rank and file, not the not the show. Heyo, Toddy, Yeah,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: the rank and file. Wouldn't they want something that includes
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: a mandated floor of one hundred and seventy one million
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: where enters how many teams would have to come up.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: To that one seventy one.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: So what payroll number you look at?
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Let's just use this for arguments sake.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't the rank and file major league baseball player want
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: a floor where thirty percent of the teams would then
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: have to start paying more money?
• 53:30
  Speaker 8: Absolutely, and by the way, it also for the if
• 53:33
  Speaker 8: you look at the just understanding the leverage. If I'm
• 53:36
  Speaker 8: if I'm in those Major League Baseball players union meetings,
• 53:41
  Speaker 8: I'm saying, I need to understand what do the owners
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: want the most? What what where's their leverage? What they
• 53:47
  Speaker 8: what they want the most is fixed costs. So now
• 53:53
  Speaker 8: if we're going to give them the fixed costs that
• 53:55
  Speaker 8: they want, Now, what's what's involved in in collective barg
• 54:00
  Speaker 8: It's called wages, terms hours, in terms of employment, wages, hours,
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: terms of employment. That's that's through all unions, in all
• 54:07
  Speaker 8: click to bargaining game. That basically includes everything. So now
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: you can start to say, okay, owners, we're gonna give
• 54:13
  Speaker 8: you your your salary cap, but we want this and
• 54:17
  Speaker 8: it might be you know, fewer days in training camp.
• 54:20
  Speaker 8: It might be more pension, it might be health insurance.
• 54:23
  Speaker 8: Like everything's on the table, right and so so minimum
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: salaries would be on the table. So so you're right,
• 54:32
  Speaker 8: they have to sort out. I mean John Elway didn't
• 54:36
  Speaker 8: want the salary cap, or excuse me, the franchise tag.
• 54:39
  Speaker 8: In fact, the franchise tag in the NFL is the
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: John Elway rule because Pat Bollen, the owner of the
• 54:46
  Speaker 8: Broncos said, hey, I all agree, finally agree to give
• 54:48
  Speaker 8: you players free agency, but I'm not signing any document
• 54:52
  Speaker 8: that gives me a chance to lose John Elway. So
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: thus was born the franchise tag one player, right like, So,
• 54:59
  Speaker 8: so this is how the negotiations go with this. You say, Okay,
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: this is important to us, that's important to you. Okay,
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: now where's our leverage? And so you can raise all
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: of this and so yes, the rank and file. Absolutely,
• 55:10
  Speaker 8: you think Johnny l Wait wanted the franchise tag. He'd
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: want to say, no, I want the.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Freedom that all you guys have.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 55:15
  Speaker 8: But but the one sodos if you if you write
• 55:19
  Speaker 8: a collective bargain agreement that maybe doesn't favored one Soto
• 55:24
  Speaker 8: as much as he would like, or maybe you still
• 55:26
  Speaker 8: have the majority of the players that it doesn't. Again,
• 55:30
  Speaker 8: let me just focus on two things. We'll summarize it
• 55:32
  Speaker 8: like this. The players are at forty seven percent of
• 55:36
  Speaker 8: the pie. Now the owners are offing fifty percent. Well,
• 55:41
  Speaker 8: the NFL made a big deal about forty eight percent
• 55:46
  Speaker 8: to forty eight just point eight percent right to get
• 55:49
  Speaker 8: to seventeen games, to accept the seventeen games seas so
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: if you go three percent, that's a lot of money, right,
• 55:55
  Speaker 8: I mean you're going for every billion dollars you know,
• 55:58
  Speaker 8: you're you're going in instead of four underd and seventy million,
• 56:01
  Speaker 8: you get your you'r at five hundred million, right yeah,
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: So so so you've got that piece. And then that's
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: just the percentage of the pie. As I I'm trying
• 56:11
  Speaker 8: to argue, I absolutely believe in history can show it
• 56:14
  Speaker 8: that when you have this type of when you have
• 56:17
  Speaker 8: this type of constraints on h on uh uh, the
• 56:23
  Speaker 8: I should say, when you advocate for this type of parody,
• 56:25
  Speaker 8: then the pie gets bigger. So so I would say
• 56:28
  Speaker 8: to the players to your your percent is going to
• 56:30
  Speaker 8: get bigger of the pie, and the pie is going
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: to grow larger if you agree to this. And by
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: the way, while you're at it, fight like hell for
• 56:38
  Speaker 8: other the wages, hours and the hours in terms of employment,
• 56:41
  Speaker 8: everything else that might be important, because now is the
• 56:44
  Speaker 8: time whethy the owners are willing to give you that stuff,
• 56:46
  Speaker 8: the service time stuff. That's a perfect service.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and we'll cut it off there. But yeah,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: the service time thing is the other part that I
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: just say, like, guys, six years in the bigs before
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: you're a true free agent.
• 56:56
  Speaker 8: It's just absolutely you can fight for you get it
• 56:59
  Speaker 8: down to the three or four owners will give it
• 57:01
  Speaker 8: to you.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah if they get yeah, exactly if they get the cap.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. I'm gonna bring
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: you back. I gotta talk Miles Garrett with you and
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: the nightmare that he I know you guys, you were
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: almost lofting today. But for the folks that didn't hear it,
• 57:14
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• 57:17
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• 57:40
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• 57:42
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• 57:44
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• 57:47
  Speaker 1: on in the NFL this week.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, A J. Brown got traded. We all knew that,
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: Thanks Diana, that was coming on June.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: First, The bigger story was on Monday, June first, when
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: you know the cap stuff kind of changes and all
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: that around and about. I was laughing, Hugh. On Monday,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Greg Bells on the air. In the course of eight
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: minutes on Monday morning in the ten o'clock hour, we
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: find out that Miles Garrett's a RAM and someone by
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: the last name of Gates is involved in professional sports
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: ownership in Seattle, probably with an NBA tied to it
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: as well. So it was a rather busy Monday. Let's
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: get to Let's get to Miles Garrett twenty three sacks
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: last season. His seventeen game average in his career is
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: sixteen sacks per season. The only one year has he
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: been under ten. That was his rookie season, only played
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: eleven games, had seven that season. Sacks aren't all there
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: is to a defensive end in a pass rushers game,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: but those those sacks jump out, as do the two
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: time Defensive Player of the Year in the NFL. How
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: terrifying is this that the Rams are getting this dude.
• 58:49
  Speaker 8: Well, you watch the tape and you just see exactly
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: what he is. I mean, he's a guy that's that's
• 58:56
  Speaker 8: already entrenched in Canton, and you know, these sacks are illuminating.
• 59:02
  Speaker 8: There's only four players in the history of the NFL
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: with over one hundred sacks at the age of thirty
• 59:10
  Speaker 8: or younger. Counting all those sacks, and the first three,
• 59:16
  Speaker 8: I want you to make a note of how tightly
• 59:19
  Speaker 8: clump they are.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, TJ.
• 59:21
  Speaker 8: Watt the one hundred and one, yep, Jared Allen with
• 59:24
  Speaker 8: one hundred and five. Reggie White is second on the
• 59:27
  Speaker 8: list with one hundred and eighty. Right, so seven separate
• 59:32
  Speaker 8: all three of them, right. Then from Reggie White at
• 59:34
  Speaker 8: one hundred and eight, you jump to Miles Garrett at
• 59:37
  Speaker 8: one hundred and twenty four and a half. Now, there's
• 59:39
  Speaker 8: been a couple of years where they've had seventeen games,
• 59:42
  Speaker 8: I guess, but that just shows you the dominance that
• 59:45
  Speaker 8: he's had. And so you're talking about a guy there
• 59:50
  Speaker 8: is not a classification of defensive ends that you can
• 59:55
  Speaker 8: present that he's not in.
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: He's in the.
• 59:58
  Speaker 8: Class with Reggie White, he's in the class with Deacon Jones,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 8: he's in the class with Bruce Smith, right, And so
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 8: excuse me, there's that piece. And then when I throw
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 8: on the tape and I see, you know, first of all,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 8: like his frame is incredible. He's a little is six
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: to four and a quarter, which is a little bit
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 8: over the median in height, but his arm length is
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 8: ninety fourth percentile. In fact, out of two one hundred
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 8: and three defensive ends last year with a sack, he
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 8: had the tenth longest out of two oh three. So
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 8: you see that on the tape where when he wants
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 8: to put his arms out and get into the chest
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 8: of a tackle, they can't reach him. He has the
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: highest jump vertical jump in the history of the combine
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: of any player over two hundred and seventy pounds forty
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 8: one inches. It's only three guys at forty. He's got
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 8: the highest forty one. His thirty three reps are in
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 8: the ninety fifth percentile. So what you say, well, you
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 8: don't jump on a football field. Yeah, but that's a
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 8: measure of his strength as explosion is he can lift
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 8: to hundred seventy pounds off the ground that high, right,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 8: So so so those are combine numbers, and that's why
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 8: all the gms go to the combine because then when
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 8: you see the combine numbers and you throw on the tape,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: you see the strength you see the the the burst,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 8: the low man wins leverage and and then and then
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 8: as far as his Polish, at this juncture, he's got
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 8: a speed and he can turn the corner, he can
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 8: dip the soulder. He shows that repeatedly. Speed to power
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 8: is there, the bull rush off, the jump is there.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 8: I described Ian this euro step, and we all.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: Want to know about that. The second step you said
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: in the eurostep that he has.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, well we know the euro step as an
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 8: NBA player is going down the lane like the big step,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: and it looks kind of looks like traveling, but but
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: it never is.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: So what he'll do.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 8: He's a right end, by the way, he had the
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 8: highest percentage of right end. And by the way, we'll
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 8: talk about structurally and schematically how he fits in with
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 8: the rams, because there's an important point on that. But
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 8: remember right in so he comes off, he's going against
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 8: a left tackle. He's a high cut guy with a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 8: high waisted, long leg, you know, and that generally from
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 8: a body composition standpoint, John Schneider said, body profiling is
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: a huge part of what we do. That's a direct quote.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 8: And when you look at a high cut guy like
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: Miles Garrett. He takes a big lunch with his right leg,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 8: which induces the left tackle to try and beat him
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 8: to the outside. He's worried about getting beat to the outside.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 8: And then with his weight on his right foot, his
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 8: outside leg, he does like a crossover, big jump back
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 8: to the inside on his left foot into what's called
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 8: the b gap between the guard and the tackle, and
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  Speaker 8: from there he can accelerate with that explosiveness that he has.
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  Speaker 8: He did that what I just describedgainst Trent Williams for
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  Speaker 8: a sack against Trent Williams, of course, the left tackle
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  Speaker 8: for the forty nine ers, he's just as yeah, he's
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  Speaker 8: just as Canton bounds as uh as Garrett is right.
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  Speaker 8: And the NFL tabulated at two point three seconds to
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  Speaker 8: the sack. That is extremely rare. In fact, where's my numbers?
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  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 8: I think that only thirty about thirty percent of all
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  Speaker 8: NFL sacks are under three seconds. He he got to
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  Speaker 8: purty in two point three and and and he did
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  Speaker 8: that against Trent Williams who barely touched. And then and
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  Speaker 8: then from that euro step that I described where I
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  Speaker 8: said what he lunges with his right leg then back
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  Speaker 8: to his left but then he can go back out
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  Speaker 8: to his right, So it's like a zigzag. It's like,
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  Speaker 8: let me leap to the right, leap to the left,
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  Speaker 8: and then come back out to the right. So what
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  Speaker 8: I'm trying to say is he has a bevy of
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  Speaker 8: of moves that that in conjunction with his near perfect
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  Speaker 8: athletic profile, his combine perfection right paired with his different
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  Speaker 8: use now he doesn't have a spin move. I don't
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  Speaker 8: think he's great with his hands. There's other defensive ends
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  Speaker 8: that you know, they do a lot of offseason work
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  Speaker 8: with martial arts training, you know of how to get
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  Speaker 8: guys hand. So I don't see greatness in that regard.
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  Speaker 8: He's just strong enough and and and quick enough and
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  Speaker 8: accelerating enough that he doesn't need that and and and
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  Speaker 8: I had mentioned. I'll wrap it up with what the
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  Speaker 8: tape shows in this his first step I've seen I've
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 8: seen defensive ends that have a faster first step, and uh,
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  Speaker 8: you know, Trayvon Walker for example, the number one overall pick,
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  Speaker 8: you know, would be an example of that. So I
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  Speaker 8: don't think his his first step is elite elite, but
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  Speaker 8: once he gets his second step and second, third, and
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  Speaker 8: fourth and fifth now all of a sudden, he's blazing
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  Speaker 8: and uh and the speed is there, so he he
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  Speaker 8: has everything you want and and uh, you know it's
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  Speaker 8: it's it's for Charles Cross to have to deal with.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 8: So I'm sure that he's uh, he's put a couple
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  Speaker 8: extra reps in the weight room, uh over the last
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  Speaker 8: couple of days, knowing that he's gonna have to go
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 8: against a U A a Hall of Fame wing of
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 8: the Hall of Fame type of defensive end. That's what
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 8: the Rams just acquired.
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  Speaker 3: In my opinion, I just got a couple of minutes left.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you just for Seattle schematically, we care
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: about the Seahawks more than other teams, but for Seattle
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  Speaker 1: schematically that you've talked a lot on hardcore football kind
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: of about the tighter formations and they'll play a lot
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: of two tight end sets for Seattle and stuff like that.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Is Garrett just the kind of guy you're just gonna
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: when you go into a game against the Rams, that
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: that Brian Flurry and and company are gonna have to
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: scheme against and and whether it's keeping a tight end
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  Speaker 1: in there or whatever they do, you know to help
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  Speaker 1: out Cross.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, first thing, there's a little bit of a schematic. Uh.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 8: I don't know about adjustment. I'm curious whether they make
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 8: the adjustment. But the Rams were more a three to
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 8: four team in base where where their defensive ends technically
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 8: are Bradon Fisk and Kobe Turner. Yeah, right, and and
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 8: and they had Jared versus an outside linebacker. Now, you know,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 8: teams will typically, you know, particularly on third down, you know,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 8: teams that were a three to four, they'll drop into
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 8: a forty and and and you'll put the guy's hand
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 8: on the ground or whatever, or he'll be acting as
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 8: a defensive end. But but structurally yet Miles Garrett almost
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 8: exclusively right end. In fact, he was what it was
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 8: a seventy nine seventy nine point six percent as a
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 8: right end. That was that was a number one in
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 8: the NFL as a percentage. And then snaps six hundred
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: and sixty four snaps at right end, that's number one
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: So is Miles Garrett.
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  Speaker 8: You know, you're not going to ask Miles Garrett all
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 8: of a sudden to be an outside linebacker way Jared
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 8: Verse was on certain fronts. So I think that we
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 8: may see somewhat of a significant overhaul schematically from the
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 8: Rams just to accommodate Miles Garrett's talents and where he's best,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 8: which is, you know, lining up as a four to
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 8: three in.
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  Speaker 1: Well, great news. Hopefully number ninety nine doesn't come back either.
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  Speaker 8: And I'm sorry I pause, but I don't think I
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 8: directly answered your question. I think that I think, like
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 8: we know this, the Sea Arks are going to have
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 8: a plan for how to help Charles Cross. Like they're
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 8: not gonna sit there and just you know, let Miles
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 8: Garrett wreck the game and just you know, throw in
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 8: the towel and say, well, Charles Cross can't block Miles Garrett,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 8: so we're gonna lose today. They're gonna have a plan,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 8: you know, They're going to try and slide and turn
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 8: the protection. So maybe Gray's abel will have a number
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 8: of reps where he's helping Charles Cross, you know, depending
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 8: on the front and if it's just a four man rush, uh,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 8: that they can have tight end blocking.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 8: They can have chip running backs chip, although that's that
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 8: can be a little bit of a of a gamble
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 8: because sometimes the running back just gums up the whole
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 8: situation for the tackle. But but, but certainly a tight
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 8: end to to elongate the edge so that he has
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 8: to be wider from the ball, so he's longer distance
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 8: to go to get to Sam Darnold, you put you
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 8: put a tight end on that side, just closed the end.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 8: Uh that that can help just by alignment, even if
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 8: the tight end doesn't block him, just by alignment. So
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: there's some things you can do to try and and
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 8: uh alleviate some of this. But those those things have
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: been attempted against the Browns, and Miles Garrett has still uh,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 8: you know, produced he was number one in the NFL
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 8: and sacks, of course, he was number one in the
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 8: entire league, not just ends in havoc plays, which is
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 8: tackles for loss, forced fumbles, interceptions, pass breakups, and sacks
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 8: he was number one, number two, and hits number four
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 8: and pressures. You know, he's a load, and the tape
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 8: shows it. And and for twenty twenty six, it's hard
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 8: to make an argument that the Rams didn't significantly help themselves.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: Now yours twenty seven, and beyond all the contract, the
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 8: first round draft picks, all that, what they gave up,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 8: we're up against it. We won't discuss that. So much
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: of that is obvious. But it's also obvious that the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 8: Rams are a lot better today than they were a
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 8: week ago.
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  Speaker 1: Four times last season, he didn't have a sack twice
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: against the Steelers. He might want to be watching those
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Steelers game tapes and figure out what they did, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, buddy, you're the best. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he would think he would have been
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  Speaker 3: in there for a while and I'm with I'm with
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  Speaker 1: It's all about the CBC broadcast for me and then
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  Speaker 3: They do such a great job. But I was actually
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  Speaker 3: in the car.
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  Speaker 1: I left the gym and I was driving home and
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  Speaker 1: Edzo's interviewing Gary Betman. Had a one along Gary Betman, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: all died. The commissioner bust at his chops, like nobody's business.
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  Speaker 1: It was since we'll ask Johnny about it. It was sensational.
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  Speaker 3: Ed Zoe was rich.
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  Speaker 6: He was on his heels.
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  Speaker 2: That's the first time I've ever seen him like that.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't. I was flumbing spied. I was like, what
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  Speaker 3: are we doing here?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah he was.
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  Speaker 1: He was chure, but I wish him a happy birthday.
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  Speaker 1: And the commissioners having none of that, He's like, no,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: it was ninety three, not ninety four.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh whatever. It was good.
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  Speaker 1: It was good stuff. It was great they're broadcast is
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  Speaker 1: the Having those two guys on the radio for the
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• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic. So Game two tomorrow, that's a big one
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: for Carolina. They got a you don't want to fall
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: behind two oh at home. And that's a thanks tips
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: moment by me.
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  Speaker 3: But but it's true that that. I mean, you have
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: all of the pressure.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, first time, you know, Montreal won Game one
• 1:12:47
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• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Elliott Freeman said it last night on the broadcast. I
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: think he says this, It felt different last night. Montreal
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: won that game, but they were badly outplayed.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was like kind of a rusty Carolina
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: team that had been waiting for Montreal to win their
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: game seven after sweeping the Carolina was firing in all
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: cylinders last night and they still lost.
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  Speaker 3: They when you come out and boom what nothing, boom
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: to nothing. Listen. Carter Hart is a polarizing figure, There's
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: no doubt about that.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: The goalie for the Vegas Golden Knights. He was part
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: of the Hockey Canada scandal, the trial that ended last year.
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  Speaker 1: He got another there's a non guilty verdict, and everyone
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  Speaker 1: Did did something bad? Did something morally? Like we you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can judge all all that stuff off the ice.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's a you thing. I'm not gonna worry about that.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: Now where from a hockey standpoint, like little rattled early on, Yeah,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: and then made a save on a breakaway to keep.
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  Speaker 3: It to nothing, and that I thought was the play
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: of the game.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, so there and and so the.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Former silver tip goalie gets the win, and now they're
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: three wins away from a title. It's kind of the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: series that a lot of people are like, I don't
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: know who I want to win. Carolina's got il Chipo
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: as an owner, Vegas is well, we just talked about
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Vegas is just Vegas, right, so and Carter Hart fact,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people rooting against him. So that
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: makes for a fun series. Though, That makes for a
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: fun series that's you daily powerful like Forsut is going
• 1:14:18
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  Speaker 1: I got one other note for you.
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  Speaker 4: In the.
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  Speaker 1: the Canucks are looking at possibly hiring Jessica Campbell for
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  Speaker 3: Staff with the Canucks. I'm assuming with his staff, not
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  Speaker 3: with the HL team at habits for me.
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  Speaker 1: There's also a thing coming out that Patrick Alvin who
• 1:14:47
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  Speaker 1: Jim Rutherford who was the president. And this wasn't a
• 1:14:54
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  Speaker 3: Ron Francis president last year. This is Brotherford kind of
• 1:15:01
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  Speaker 1: There's talk about Patrick Alvin coming to Seattle, like kind
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  Speaker 1: Barner did that last year, and I would expect to
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: see maybe that same thing with with the Royal met
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: the second year guy.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: All the talent in the world get a lot.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Of reps right now because Barner's coming off some stuff
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: I did the Okay, I'm gonna be this is I'm
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: not trying to be that guy. I forget what do
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: they call it the Seahawks one series? Yeah in the
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: morning is that what they call it?
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: I think? So?
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I want to make sure I'm one player
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: every day during Yes, yes, okay, So I did this
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: morning with Chuck, and I took a J.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: Barner. I picked a like that.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: Now, in fairness to me, like there's like two thirds
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: of the roster was was unavailable for me to take.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: Well, because once one analyst takes them, it's like, okay,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: I gotta But it is.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: Fun, like I I actually goes who do you want?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: And I went it.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: I said who was available?
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: But I like doing the Barner thing because and you know,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: we just talked a lot about Miles Garrett.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: You know, a J.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: Barner look at look at this was one.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Of the sneaky best picks John Schneider has had in
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: his time in Seattle. And listen there's guys that are
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: going to maybe go to the Hall of Fame that
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: were Day three picks. Richard Sherman, Right, your first, your
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: first MVP in the your first Super Bowl MVP. Malcolm
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Smith was a seventh round pick. Obviously, what camp where
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: Cam went? So many guys over the years, we all
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: know what he's done. This is how sneaky good the
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: AJ Barner pick was andres he was.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: There were twelve tight ends taken that year. In twenty
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: twenty four, A J. Barner was the seventh of the
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: twelve and a Day three pick. A J. Barner is
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: the number two tight.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: End in terms of offensive production in the two years
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: since then. The guy that's number one is you might
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: have heard of him thirteenth overall, Brock Bowers.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I have heard of him.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, good at football, Yeah, pretty good when he's healthy.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends unless you were on ians fantasy team
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: Which he was, and he was hurt often.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: But all kiddings, I had brought bars one hundred and
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: seventy six receptions, eighteen hundred yards and twelve touchdowns. Barner's
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: number two interceptions with eighty two among tight ends in
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: that draft. He's number three in terms of yards seven
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: to sixty four, but within fifty of the number two
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: guy that could out with the Giants, and number two
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: by a long shot. With ten touchdowns in two years,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: most of them coming last season. Played seventy eight percent
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: of the snaps last year, Seahawks lead the league. Led
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: the league last season with an average of seven point
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: five yards per play when they were playing with twelve
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: personnel which is a running back and two tight ends,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: which they did a lot that. By the way, seven
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: point five yards per play with twelve twelve personnel fifth
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: best mark by any team in the.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: Last decade in the NFL. Wow, So they had success
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: with twelve. He played all the time. And oh, by the.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Way, can we forget we can't forget about the barnyard.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: No ten rushing attempts last season for AJ Barner, nine
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: first downs.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: That's a night.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: And I I'm not sure if the one carry didn't
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: result in a first down or they didn't need I
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: don't know what the one carry was, because he had
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: ten carries for fourteen yards. Yeah, but nine first downs,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: let's just say they were nine of ten. That's a
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: ninety percent clip wazoo math.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: I'll take that.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: I believe that the Tush push was in the seventies
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: So you're saying the Barnyard's better than the Tush.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: Push, I'm one hundred percent saying got it all right, No,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. Well, but you know, the Barnyard
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: one was weird because or not the Barnyard the Tush Push.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: They listen and everybody who's got a fantasy every fantasy
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: player knows this because you either.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: Had Jalen Hurts, went against Jalen Hurts, whatever. Right, So
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: we watched it a lot.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: They used it a lot like midfield two plus yards
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: to like they I thought they got a little cocky
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: with it.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah they did, you know, I think they got a little.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: And then the n with it is what you're saying,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: little little sirianni ish, and I think they also the
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: NFL started doing a little not a great but there
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: was a little improvement in terms of how they officiated it, right,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: like they started kind of looking and the bar and
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: you know it's different, you know, because I was talking
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: about that with Chuck this morning. You know, with the Barnyard,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: that's a guy that used to taking a snap.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: Right, he's a tight end.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: And I know he played college or high school quarterback,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: not college but high school. But whatever, it's you're not
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: used to taking that snap. And I now they do
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: practice it, it's after we're already kicked out of practice
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: during the regular season, so I don't know how many
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: times he's practicing taking snaps from Sundell or Old the
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Timmy or whatever.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: But like that's a big part of it, the whole
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: timing part of it. But that thing worked.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: But just as a tight end, I mean, the guy
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: he when he was drafted on that day three and
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: we're talking to Rang, i'member thinking, well, you know, he's
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: kind of like his numbers in college were not extraordinary,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: like offensively not like a Royal, Like his tape didn't
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: jump off the page, going oh, this guy dynamic tied end.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to that guy in Elijah Royal in
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: a minute. But but Barner has really developed into a
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: guy that they can trust. In the past game I
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: got about I think it was seventy seven percent of
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: his pass could catch rate last year pretty good. And
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: and obviously the blocking part and what they do with
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: twelve personnel, how they're gonna want to run the football.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: They you know, they throw at a lower rate than
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: most teams.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: A J.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: Barner not only was it, I mean he's a sneaky
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: good draft pick by Schneider and kind of flies into
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: the radar in terms of like a really important player
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: for this football.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna give you a comp And I'm curious
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: because I know that he's not to this guy's level yet,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: but I think he has the potential to get there.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Can he be a George Kittle because another Day three pick. Yeah,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: blocks and catches, kind of does everything.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: Don't think I don't think he's as athletic gifted. Okay,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: the one I used this morning with with Chuck was
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. Oh ok, I like that I could see
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: now listen and Chuck brought up to drop. Okay, Mark
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Andrews had a drop significant one.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, a significant one, significant one end of their season.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: But Mark Andrews is a hell of a tight end.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: Like a hell of a tight Yeah.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: I would say I think that just I mean, God,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: if he turns into ninety percent of Kittle, wow.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: I just take talking skill set again. I'm not saying
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: I know he's not to the production level.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: You know what he does do he plays Barner plays
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: with the kittle attitude.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking as well, like.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: Very like very I mean boisterous vocal, Yeah, just toughest nail.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: And I mean I think you could just look at
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: that tight end tandem him in a Royal and you
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: know whether it's color Upper or Salbert. I mean you're one,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: two and then three slash four like really good tight
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: end group, like really good. And it's such an upgrade
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: for like the Noah fan thing never worked, doubt he
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: never was a for whatever reason, and a couple of
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks through was never a red zone guy for some reason.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Strange in that regard. But yeah, I can see the kill.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: I told Chuck this morning, and I truly believe this.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah that I think if if if the group there
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: from HBO decides to do it the right way, this
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: guy could be a star, like for the for the
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: hard knocks, like an absolute flat out star.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: And if they don't just go for name value and
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: guys who like maybe could turn into stars if they
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: would have a little bit more camera.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: Time because they usually do a pretty good job of
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, you know, not just going for a
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: guy because of his name. Sure usually do a pretty
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: good job of of like like and if they and
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: they'll I'm sure they'll go through this, you know, talk
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: to the Seahawks guys and say, like, who's a guy,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Who's who should we talk to?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: Who's Who's a dude? Barner's got to be at the
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: top of the list, I mean just absolutely top of
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: the list.
• 1:25:56
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  Speaker 1: All right, we will be joined in just a moment
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: by Elijah Arroyo. The Seahawks tight end practice just wrapping
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: up here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center where we're
• 1:27:17
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• 1:27:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:27:28
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• 1:27:32
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• 1:28:01
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  Speaker 2: Exactly right, Softy always gets the uh the T shirt
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: of whoever's playing Oregon in the colleg football playoff. Right, Yeah,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: but there was some other stuff too. I just yeah,
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's read some text four nine four five one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with this one. Hang on second, hang on,
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  Speaker 1: Hugh isn't the baseball voice we wanted, But damn is
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: he the voice that all of us steam heads needed?
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Hey, Hugh, pay the man love that, absolutely love that.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really like that conversation because it take behind
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: the scenes. I actually texted him when we brought this
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: up with Joe right by the way, with love a
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: discussion between Joe and Hugh regarding MLB labor.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: That would be that would be an.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: All timer, that would be that would be something.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I I knew he had Ben's somewhat involved
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: with the PA in the NFL right in his time,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: So I just wanted his perspective because like, he's a
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: player's first guy. But I thought I remembered him saying
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: that he's like he's a pro salary cap guy, and
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: he articulated it very well how it would actually most
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: likely benefit the players in.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: The long term.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: I think the problem is not the problem the because
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: someone someone wrote this in forty five. Fu, I've always
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: believed this, and you said it better than I ever have.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: All boats all boats rise when the seas rise. You know,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: part of it is the part of it is the uh,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: the amount of the split in terms of you know,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: like k I know in hockey hockey related income, right,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: they're talking about that all the time, right, So you
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: got that you've got all these different ones coming in.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: So uh and the raise to fifty percent isn't nothing
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: like he said that there was a there was qualms
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: about the point eight percent that the NFL moved up,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: and this would raise the revenue sharing amongst the MLB.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the revenue share one thing. I think.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: The other part of it too is the basement in
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: the in the floor, I think has to be something
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: you consider, yes, right, it has to be part of
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: the equation. And the problem with some of these now,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: guys that make a ton of money oftentimes have the
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: most juice, yes, right, the bigger names, the ones that
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: are getting paid and.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: So on and so forth.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: But the rank and file, you know, the guys that
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: are making the league minimum or just over that or
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: have to go fight for arbitration. You know, baseball has
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: the arbitration stuff, and you got to go basically present
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: your case that you should be paid more and all
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: those things.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: Right, those guys are like those guys, you know, they
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: want it. And here's the thing.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: If thirty percent of the teams are below the basement
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: right now, then if that's the case, well those guys,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: think about all those players, thirty twenty five guys on
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: a team. Do the math, there's a whole bunch of
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: guys not getting right that would get at least more.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: Well along the way. Not just that, but Hugh actually
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: talked about this in the break between the two segments
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: because I was kind of picking his brain a little
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: bit more can you have like just general there's no
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: stats to back this up, but just in a general sense,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: it feels like in baseball, the percentage of the best
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: players in the league that are actually getting paid like
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: the best players feels very low. Like you got a
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: lot of guys before they hit free agency that are
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: just stealing money from or sorry, the the owners are
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: stealing money from those players because they're worth so much
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: more than they're getting paid. And like the NFL isn't
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: necessarily batting a thousand in that because you still got
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: players on the rookie contracts that are one of the
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: best players in the NFL, but it's more so than
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: the Mariners Mariners MLB. Right, Yeah, So, I just as
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: a player, I would always want the best players to
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: get paid the most and then the not as good
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: players to get paid less. And that feels like the
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: balance is not there for baseball.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's at our percentages. A lot of
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: guys I think with baseball too yearly a show he's
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: making this Aaron Judge, sure, mad like all the Yeah,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: but there's also a whole you know what, there's a
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: whole lot.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: Of in this league, a whole lot of Dom Canzon, yes, exactly,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: a whole lot of time, and a whole lot of
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: middle relievers.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: Now it's changing slightly because you're seeing cases like Colt
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Emerson right where you pay him before he even gets
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: here because you know he's going to be good. There's
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: there's been two of those this year, right, Yes, him
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: and Kevin McGonagall.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: Right, there's been two of those this year.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: Uhise the Rams acquisition demonstrate Mike's genius. We play them
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: two times for sure. It might be Oh and O
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: all the time who invested in a significantly better at
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: special teams.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: Not worried Hawks fan here. The Rams did.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: Well, they change their special teams coach. But I thought
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: it was a great point Palizola made that in the
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: noon hour, that what was the difference last year?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: Special teams?
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: Special teams?
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and as he mentioned, he thinks he thinks
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: that Seattle's got a deeper roster.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Matt comes into play, and it's not just
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: like it's not just like the talent, it's that's great,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: greater than the sum of the parts sort of.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: You're the best example of that is look what happened
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. So now they lost key guys,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: but they like you just I mean outside of one game.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: Tar just wasn't going to replace.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: Kittle, right, God, I forgot about that.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: And they're one they're one Christian McCaffrey Achilles away from
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: really being in or Trent Williams or Nick Bosa.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: Trent Williams is amazing. Let's just still I don't know, dude.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: He was drafted in twenty twelve, same was Russ.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: He was Trent Williams came into the league when all
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: this all the lob guys who are now all retired
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: outside of Bobby Wagner did yeah right.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: Think about that.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 6: That's insane.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: This left tackle by the way.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, uh was the one yard one barnyard rushed?
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Now a touchdown, which is why it wasn't firs no
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: touchdown A first down, spy, Yeah, a first Yeah.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: So but I'm not sure.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you guys, I'm not, Hugh, I'm
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: not gonna go watch every snap.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: We we're happy that we have someone who does that. No,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: that's why we have Hughes exactly.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't, I'm not. I'm not going one
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: of the coaches tape. What am I going to see
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: on that outside of just trying to chart that actually
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: play right?
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: That is really digging into the weeds, right.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what we're doing at that point.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: What did you guys think about the no means no
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: chan Carolina last night? To Carter Hart, you know what,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: I have a problem with it.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna find ways to root against the
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: team you're facing in the finals, right right?
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, I'm now maybe it has come up before
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: in the previous series.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I would be.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: I'd be surprised. In fact, I'd be really surprised if
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: you hadn't heard that before.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: I thought he looked rattled early.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: I thought he he looked rattled when they announced that
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: the lineups, Like they announced both teams starting lineups, and
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: he announced it when they announced him. And he's kind
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: of doing the old goalie skate from the crease to
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: the corner and back.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: I thought he looked because as soon as they you
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: couldn't even hear in goal number seventy nine, car You
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: couldn't even hear that, right, They were booing so bad
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: and so on top of him. So I thought he
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: looked a little rattled early. He needed to get that saved,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: ye to keep it to nothing, and he was better
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: at that point. But h and now he's got through
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: the first game, be fine. But if I if I'm
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: a Carolina fan, hell yeah, man, I'm chanting that thing
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: all day. I'm channing that all day long.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: So anything, yeah, all right? The bhiler two five three,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: This just in spurs tattoos up four hundred and sixty
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: nine percent in the Seattle market for the month of June.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 6: I love it.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: I love it all right.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: We we live here in nine three point three KJFM
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: at Seahawks Headquarters, Virginia Mason Athletics Center. And I went
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: to a whole season last year. I'm not sure if
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: he came on KJR. Maybe he did with another show,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: but oin now by second year, tight end from the
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry from the U.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: So how I say there you go.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: All right, Elijah Royal joint is right now, number eighteen
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: for the Seahawks.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: How are you doing great? How about you?
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: I'm good, healthy, dude. How good is it to be healthy?
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: We're watching you out there. You're looking good.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: How you feeling, man, it's great.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: It was a little tough last year at times. You
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: banged up at the end of the year. I think
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: you kind of banged up a lot during the course
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: of the year. I mean, that's that's hard, isn't it.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's something that comes with the game.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: It's kind of part of it.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about what last year was like. Because
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: you did come back and you did get you get
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: a bunch of snaps and a little thing called the
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl? What was last year like as a rookie
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: culminating in that?
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 4: Man, I feel like just the result of the season,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: like it just felt so rewarding, just with how long
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: the season was, and you know, everything that we went
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: through both as a team man individually, there's just so
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: many ups and downs and going from a thirteen season
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: game and least to going to what do we have
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 4: twenty one twenty two games?
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: Seventeen plus three, so twenty right, Yeah, yeah, that was.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: That was a bit of a roller coaster, but it
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: was great.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: That's an interesting I haven't heard guys talk about that
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: a lot, but that is something because we're talking about
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: in college going to expanding the playoffs. So now you
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: go from twelve games and maybe you play two or
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: three playoff games, and now all of a sudden, add
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: another one. You might be up to sixteen or seventeen.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: That's that's hard on the body, isn't it.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely. It'll take a toll line you. But
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: you just got to, you know, figure out a way
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: to take care of your body, figure out a routine,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: what works for you.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: What was we were talking earlier, We were doing a
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: segment on our station about just guys were watching this year,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: and I brought up AJ Barner for for us for
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: the show that for the segment that I had to do,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: and I was looking at year one to year two
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: with Aj. You weren't here year one, but you were
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: here with him last year. The leap he took in
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: terms of being involved in the offense and production and
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: all those things, it was night and day. And we
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: see that all across the league.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: With the NFL.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: What do you expect from yourself this year? Because I
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: think there's when you got drafted. I'm gonna tell you
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: right now, when you got drafted. We were upstairs in
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: the defensive meeting room, people watching the tape. They're like,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: look out, this guy's gonna be special again. Little banged
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: up last season, coming into new things. What kind of
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: steps forward? What kind of leap do you think you're
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: gonna take this year?
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, I just want to look better on film
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: than I did last year. Overall, want to be you know, stronger, faster.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 4: I feel like the game has slowed down a little
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 4: bit for me. I want to continue to hone in
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: on the details when it comes to just the playbook
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: and just watching film.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: I say that a lot about like the game slows
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: down the second year. You're coming from a hell of
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: a program, like probably professionally run program in a lot
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: of ways in college. But how different is playing at
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: Miami and playing in the NFL? I mean, or what
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: are the differences? It's a lot different. You know, Green
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: Tree has special place in my heart. You know them
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: practices were always tough and we had a lot of talent,
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: you know, on that field. But NFL practices, you know,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: you got guys at every position that can you know,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: go at all times. Every guy was All League, every
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: guy was All Conference, every guy was the dude, right,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: That's probably that's probably a little bit of the difference.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: The speed of the game. How different is it?
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: I would say, I like talking to the talking about
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: this to some of my friends, like, the transition from
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: college to the NFL is a lot easier than high
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: school to college.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, because I've asked people that before. What's what's what's
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: harder being a twelfth grader than a freshman in college
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: or a senior in college or your last year in
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: college and being a rookie in the NFL.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say being a rookie in the NFL
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 4: is definitely not a lot easier. But as far as
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: game speed, you adjust to it quicker and uh like
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: you can go in you know we one and be like, okay,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: I can I can hang with these dudes that.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Tight end room When I look at it, I mentioned
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: aj what he's able to do. You guys all have
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: kind of different skill sets in a sense, like in
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: terms of strengths and body.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: Types and everything else.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: But you aj nick Eric that that group, how do
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: you guys work together because you're competing for snaps, you're
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: competing for time. Now, you guys do play a lot
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: of twenty one, So that's good, like and you know,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: like compared to some other teams in the NFL. But
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: what's that room like in terms of competition and also camaraderie.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: We love it.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: I mean we all you know, I feel like all
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 4: of our talents complement each other, and we all still
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 4: like it's a competition, but we're all striving to make
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: each other better because you know, if the room is great,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: you know, then I feel like we're kind of the
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: heartbeat of the offense sometimes. So if we can get
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: our room going and we set the tone and we
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 4: have energy at all times, it just makes the whole
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 4: offense so much better.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: If I say that that I thought at times you
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: were a better blocker than you got credit for coming
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: into the league, would you agree?
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 4: Definitely?
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: Does that bother you when you hear people say, oh,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: he's a pass catcher, he's a six y five, two
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds wide receiver playing tight end. But
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: you know, the other part of the game, like does
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: that because I'm you hear that, you hear that coming
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: when you're coming out of college going to the draft,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: That's what that would be. The one criticism of you,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: does that bother you? Is that it incentive for you?
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: What do you think when you hear that.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not really worried about that, worried about any type
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 4: of outside noise. I think I just want to prove
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: myself right.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched last week. I was in here doing
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: the show most of the day today. But with Aj
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: kind of banged up, you're getting a lot of reps
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: out there. How's your How do you feel like year
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: or two with you and Sam is going right now?
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: I feel really good. I feel like we've built a
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 4: lot of chemistry just having a whole year of reps
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: under our belt and just continuing to stack those reps
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: every day. You know, It's it's been vital.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: What's what's he like?
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: Because he comes across when we watch him, you see
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: some guys that are fiery, they're out of control, they're
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: yelling and screaming as quarterbacks and raw raw and the thing.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: He just looks like a dude that if you go
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: in the huddle, never too high, never too low. But
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: what's he like from you guys as a.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: Teammate exactly that he's a he's a chill dude, great leader.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: What I love about him he's always poised, like, no
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: matter what happens, he always has the next play mentality
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 4: and uh, he never lets you know, any any type
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: of circumstance affect him.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: How important is that to have your leader in your court?
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Because there are something Hey, I want a wrong, wrong guy.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: But how important is it to have a guy that
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: is just on that even keel, Because in the course
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: of an NFL game, right, you're gonna have ups, You're
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: gonna have hell, He's had that. I think that's the
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: thing that jumps out of me with him is he
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: can throw a couple picks or do something you're like,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't see, at least outwardly for us watching
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: in the press box or on TV, it doesn't seem
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: to affect him. You're telling me he doesn't really affect
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: him either in terms of the huddle on the sideline.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm telling you the exact same thing. That's all
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: you see is what I see. That's which which that
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: just has to give you guys, a ton of confidence.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. We always know we're in the game.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: You know, we have Sam in the huddle. We're good.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: You you lose a guy in ken Walker the Bowl MVP,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: but you gain a number one pick in Jadarian Price.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: You got other guys Hailani and some other dudes Jakarti,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: a Wright and those types of guys. When you you're
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: watching them run by you. Nobody can hit anybody right now.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: But what do you see from the kid? What do
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: you see from from from the first round pick.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 4: I'm excited for him. I think he has a very
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: bright future.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: And uh and that's I'm gonna actually take us as
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: a Miami guy talking about a Notre Dame guy. So
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: I do realize I did that to you right now? Okay,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: so I'll let you go again. What do you think
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: about the kid from Notre Dame.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: You know now that he's here, you know, he's my teammate.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: I love him, I respect him, and uh, you know,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 4: I think he's gonna have a great career.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: Here, give me another guy, second year guy. Maybe you know,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: young guy that you think much like yourself is going
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: to have that boom second year leap. That's gonna just
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, people, Maybe people aren't Seahawk fans
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: aren't talking about him, media is not talking about him.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: Give me another guy, maybe either from your draft class
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: or maybe somebody that you think is gonna jump out.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Riley Moves. I think he's gonna
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 4: have a really good year this year.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: Are you sure you're not a notre dame guy? Do
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: you know you're saying you guys aren't gonna like that.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 4: And we really don't take him as a threat. You know,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: we beat him last year, so it's cool. They not
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: our rear arrival.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, so he's a d lineman, so you gotta go
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: get some in practice. We didn't see him much and
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it's like, that's a Super
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: Bowl sack. That's a Super Bowl sack. This dude just
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: gott what is about Rilly.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 6: That you like?
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: Man? Just how he came in you know, he came
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: in injured, but just the mentality that he has, because
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: I would say, when you injured. I've had a lot
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: of injuries as well throughout my college career and even here,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: but uh, I feel like just to be mentally poised
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: and stay in it and to be able to come
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 4: out mid season and hit the ground running like he did.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: Like I'm just excited to see what he's gonna do
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 4: with a full season.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: I think Seayork fans are excited to see what you're
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: gonna do in a full season as well. And stay
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: off that other little list that they put you on.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: This we don't care about that. Stay off of that.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: Stay healthy all year. Year two is gonna be a
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: big one for you. That tied in in room as
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: the wait for it, defending Super Bowl champions.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: How does that sound?
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 4: That sounds great?
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you see it.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: You see some other teams that you know, it sounds
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: better back to back. Oh that sounds okay, that sounds
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 4: a lot better.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's teams in this division that are trying
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: to go out and they're desperately trying to beat you guys.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you've noticed that. There's like a
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: trade the other day. Do you notice that one? Do
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: you guys talk about that trade at all?
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 4: Not really?
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: But you know, when you we don't care, is this
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: we don't is this a Mike McDonald, We don't care exactly.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 4: When when you hunt, you hunt everybody. You need to
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 4: you become the hunted, don't. Yeah, that's how it happens.
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  Speaker 3: We don't care.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Good to meet you. Finally, Elijah Royal number eighteen for
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: your Seahawks. You're gonna see him on the field and
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: doing some big things this season. We'll take a quick break,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: come back and wrap up the show next night. Three
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: point three km.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: Alrighty then already, then where are you today? Are you today?
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 6: I'll give you one guess. I won't tell you where
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 6: I'm at, but I'll give you a hint. And Ryan
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 6: is what Emmy's Where do you think I am? Jimmy?
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 6: I was out here with the my buddy Naton from Bellevue,
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 6: rare coins, taking a little day baseball nice, watching the
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 6: Man news, watching the Mets.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: And do sound like that was a pleasant experience?
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, not so far today. I mean, you know,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 6: I got some time. But yeah, that was the fourth
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 6: inning today. That was a disaster.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, speak speaking speaking of Jimmy's For those
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: who didn't hear it, I believe it was last Friday
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: you had kJ.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 6: On right, the j Roth the GM correct. I did not.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Realize until you had them on last week. What an
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: absolute gong show this thing is gonna be in terms
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: of traffic right with with FIFA, like, help help me out.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to sum it up. Basically, on a
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: game day, starting at two am, every street in the
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: radius of a mile or so of the stadiums shut down.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 6: I don't know about the mile. All I know is
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 6: that if it's a twelve o'clock kickoff, right, and most
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 6: of the games I think right anders are twelve o'clock
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 6: kickoffs at Lumenfield. Yes, I'm sorry Seattle.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: Stadium, sir, that it would be Seattle Stadium, that Lumenfield
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: is no longer exist.
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  Speaker 6: Not Loomenfield. By the way, I was driving north on
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 6: ninety nine today coming in here and I look across
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 6: the street to what used to be lumen Field and
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 6: the lumen is blocked out. It just says Field Field.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 6: So we're gonna get together at field for the World
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 6: Cup if it's if it's a twelve o'clock kickoff from
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 6: Edgar to Yesler thinking what the south side of T
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 6: mobile to like ed Japioneer square right right first average
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 6: south shut down completely starting at eight am, shut down
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 6: totally during the game, shut down for two hours after
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 6: the game. So from eight and let's say five o'clock
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 6: at night, right, First average South is closed, can't park
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 6: on first Average South, can't drive on first Average South. Uh,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 6: there's a USA Australia game I think at noon, and
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 6: the Mariners play the Red Sox at seven o'clock that night. Yes,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 6: so that's gonna be what we like to call a
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 6: c effort that day. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: I looked at the Mariners sent a thing out, an
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: email out kind of explaining their side of like here's
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: how you navigate things.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 6: And can't use the garage all that stuff.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: I'm reading through it and I'm like, I'm lost.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 6: Like I just I think there's an easy thing for
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 6: a lot of people to do. If you're not a
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 6: big soccer fan, just stay away, don't come down, right
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, I mean if you go to the Boston
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 6: game on that Friday night, that could be potentially problematic.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 6: You know, getting down here early. The bars are gonna
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 6: be packed, the streets are gonna be filled. Parking is
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 6: gonna stink. If you own a lot that's just south
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 6: of Edgar and just north of Yesler, those might be
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 6: able to retire.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: As I think the I think the highest one I've
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: ever seen is one hundred and ten dollars. Right, we're
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: gonna go past that, aren't we?
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 6: Probably? Yeah, that's where you got to get like three
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 6: or four buddies in the car with you and just
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 6: pop in twenty bucks apiece.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 4: And yeah do that?
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: Are you going into games? Are you gonna go to the.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 6: I don't have any plans for now, but I'm sure
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 6: I'll find my way into one of them.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: Didn't you fly this? Where'd you go?
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 6: Where'd you go on South Africa?
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: Like last minute?
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: Right sixteen years ago? Yeah, like last minute, you jumped
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: in a plane, jumped on a plane and went to
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: was that with your buddy iver?
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 6: Yeap one day's notice, One day's notice calling in from
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 6: South Africa on Wednesday and instead, if you can take
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 6: it down here by Saturday, I have an extra ticket
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 6: for the USA Ghana game in Pretoria. Got so I talked.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 6: I talked to rich Moore and I was like, he's
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 6: like all right, go And so I jumped on the
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 6: web and went to Expedia. I paid thirty five hundred dollars, which,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 6: by the way, sixteen years ago was a lot of money.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 6: It still is a lot of money.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 3: It's still a lot of money.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 6: Imagine five sixteen years ago, right, Yeah, do the inflation
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 6: on that one. And I flew from here to Atlanta,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 6: Atlanta to Lagos, Nigeria. I spent ten hours in the
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 6: Lagos airport, and then they went to South Africa and
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 6: I spent three days there and I came home.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: That'd be about fifty three hundred dollars today.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, what was it?
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: What was ten hours in the Nigerian airport?
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 6: Like very nerve wracking, is I was gonna say that
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 6: had to be a nerve racking Yeah. Yeah. They don't
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 6: like you walking around the airport. They don't like you
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 6: walking around outside the airport. They actually take your passport,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 6: or they did sixteen years ago to kind of keep
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 6: an eye on you. So there was about thirty of
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 6: us on our flight that were transferring to Johannesburg, and
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 6: they grabbed all of our passports and they put him
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 6: in a plastic bag and literally took off. And so
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 6: I had about, like, you know, five ten minutes where
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 6: this basically military personnel, I don't know who he was,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 6: some kind of soldier had my passport and I did
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 6: not have my passport in the Lagos, Nigeria airport, and
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 6: I was scared as hell.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: That is unnerving as hell, man, like I'm forty, that
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: is massively unnervous.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, god, yeah, I was able to walk outside the
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 6: airport just for a couple of minutes with an escort,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 6: uh to uh to go, just take a look around
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 6: and say that I saw Nigeria look like from outside
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 6: the airport.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 3: Did you say to yourself, boys, should you like to
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: come back here someday?
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 8: No?
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 6: I never said that. I never said that.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh god, oh my goodness.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 6: Remember looking across the street from the airport and there
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 6: was uh, what turned out to be a mosque. And
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 6: I asked the guy that I was with, I said,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 6: what's that over there? He says, that's a mosque and
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 6: I said, oh, whatever, that's nice. And he looked at
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 6: me and he said, uh with dead pan, he said,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 6: are you Christian or Muslim?
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: Oh god?
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 6: And I said, you know what if if I admit
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 6: to this guy that I'm Jewish, I don't know the
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 6: rules here.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's I don't know what you're coming Christian?
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I said I was Christian. And it
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 6: was the right answer.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: The best part about that you knew the wrong ad.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: You the wrong answer was your your actual religion. You're
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: religiously Yeah.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 6: And I don't know. I don't know if the guy
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 6: was just playing with me or what. You know what,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 6: I don't get a foreign country like that. You've never
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 6: been there, You have no idea what the hell you're doing.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 6: You know everything everything, You're magnified, right, you're on.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: Edge as you're telling me these stories. Passport taken. I
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: don't think sense of humor is a strong suit. No,
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: that place, I don't think that's one of the Luckily.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 6: Luckily, I was able to make make make buddies with
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 6: a guy on the flight from the Atlanta to Legos
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 6: who was like a big, big wig VIP with South
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 6: African Airways, and he got us into their lounge on
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 6: the airport. Yeah, the South African Airways lounge is like
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 6: a hotel. They've got bed, showers, you know, the whole thing.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 6: So when you're stuck there for ten to fifteen hours,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 6: you got to have things like that. But yeah, that
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: was my World Cup experience. Man watching so you've done it. Yeah,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 6: but you've been there, done it. You don't need to
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 6: go back. Well, I mean it's gonna be weird.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 6: I was talking to Jackson about this. I'm curious to
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 6: get your guys' thoughts on this. That will Will it
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 6: feel like you're at a World Cup? Yes, when you're
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 6: watching the game at lumen Field's plaint Actually, because you've
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 6: been to that stadium, you can see your own skyline,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 6: You're sleeping in your own bed. Isn't part of the
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 6: experience of going to a World Cup going to a
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 6: foreign country.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: I'm betting all.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 6: The customs and the culture and all that along with it.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: I bet it depends on who's in the stands, like
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: in terms of like like is it a country that
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: draw has a lot of people here?
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: Right? You know, like if it's does it feel like, hey,
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: here's Anders? Who else would we?
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: Us is only against Australia here, right, that's the one game? Yes, correct,
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: but it's like Portugal, not Portugal.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: Who's here?
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: That's good?
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: It's uh Turklegium, Belgium, Belgium. I bet if you go
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: to a game with Belgium and probably feel that way, right.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 6: You know, I think when you walk into the stadium
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 6: in your soccer country, like I don't know, what they've
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 6: got planned as far as the presentation, right, but I'm
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 6: assuming you walk in there and you got announcements right
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 6: in different languages, atom you see flags of different countries,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 6: You see grass, which obviously is way different than what
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 6: were you to seeing at Luminfield, and just a totally
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 6: different presentation. I'm not sure who the PA voice is
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 6: gonna be at the stadium. Will it be the same
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 6: guy that does Seahawk games. I have no idea. Will
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 6: it be somebody else? You know, the concession stands, you know,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 6: will they be different?
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: I think the round of thirty two, in the round
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: of sixteen games will definitely feel like World Cup games.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know. I'll walk in there for probably
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 6: a game. But I mean I'm not I'm not like
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 6: over the moon for this thing.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: No, No, I think it like just Haven a bit
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: like in Salt Lake when I was the Salt Lake
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: for the Olympics. No two, you know, like I they
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: played the hockey games at my building where I worked at,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: like our offices were gone for a month and a half,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: like and all that. Right, So, but I do know
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: that the one the one thing I thought was strange
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: is like there's no pregame ceremonies. There's no it's just
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: like here we are, drop the fucking go, right, And
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's kind of World Cup like.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I kind of want to go. But man,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 6: I think you should go. Man, the price should go.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, if you've never been another, the prices are
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 6: gonna drop dramatically. Prices will come down. I think on
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 6: match day you'll be able to get in for a
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 6: lot less morny than what you're looking at right now.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: But if you ever had a who off USA Australia, Yeah,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: just to say.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 6: That you've been to World Cup, I mean there's not honestly, guys,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 6: I mean seriously, like how many people around the globe
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 6: can say they've been to a World Cup match?
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 6: Probably in context?
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: Not a lot, right, And they didn't have to stay
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: in Nigeria for ten hours.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 6: It gets correct, or have their passport taken away, not
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 6: know if they were going to get home or not.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: I remember I bought like this they called an elephant bridge.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like a big carving of a bunch of elephants
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 6: going over a bridge, and I bought one when I
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 6: was in South Africa. They tried to confiscate it on
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 6: the way home because they thought it was a weapon.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like that, right, all right, what are we doing today?
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 6: What's today? Wednesday? Mike Fourio will join us. Stets Rous
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 6: is actually off today. He'll be back tomorrow. He had
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 6: something come up. He's got a skip today's show. He'll
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 6: be on tomorrow at four o'clock. All right, Greg Lewis
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 6: tho who's on the Hall of Fame ballot, going to
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 6: join us today and then Larry Stone at five o'clock.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 6: Good day to have Larry on after today's Mammagers game
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 6: here it is all.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 3: Right, have a good show, enjoyed. Jimmy's on first.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 6: But for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable in forness,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 6: this is paddle day, saying so long everyone,