Latest / The Mound Visit / How to Improve Your Catch Play
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- 0:10Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of The Mound Visit Podcast. Sorry,
- 0:13Speaker 1: it's been a few weeks since I've actually done a show.
- 0:16Speaker 1: I can't even remember actually the last time it was.
- 0:18Speaker 1: It might have been two weeks ago or so. Been
- 0:21Speaker 1: a little inconsistent lately, just with some things going on
- 0:24Speaker 1: with the business and training and doing all those things
- 0:27Speaker 1: with the guys.
- 0:28Speaker 2: The podcast has just kind of.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Slipped a little bit. There's been a couple of changes
- 0:33Speaker 1: moving forward. As of now, it's just going to be
- 0:35Speaker 1: me running the podcast. I'll have guests on every once
- 0:39Speaker 1: in a while, and even Josh still might make an
- 0:41Speaker 1: appearance on the show every once in a while, but
- 0:43Speaker 1: primarily it's going to be so episodes similar to this
- 0:46Speaker 1: and then having a guest on periodically.
- 0:48Speaker 2: So I'd love to have your.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Guys' feedback on questions that you have, topics that you
- 0:53Speaker 1: want me to cover.
- 0:54Speaker 2: I want to make sure that.
- 0:54Speaker 1: This is a helpful resource for coaches and for players,
- 0:58Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, that's what the
- 1:00Speaker 1: mission and the goal of this podcast is is to
- 1:02Speaker 1: serve you. So if I'm not doing that, I want
- 1:04Speaker 1: to make sure that you let me know and that
- 1:06Speaker 1: you tell me the things that you want to learn
- 1:07Speaker 1: more about so I can serve you better. So today
- 1:10Speaker 1: I want to talk specifically about catch play. You know,
- 1:14Speaker 1: you might be thinking that's kind of a boring topic,
- 1:16Speaker 1: like just playing catch. It's not pitch design, it's not
- 1:19Speaker 1: velocity training, it's not command work, all those things, but
- 1:22Speaker 1: catch play is something that we do daily. This is
- 1:25Speaker 1: something that is super super important when it comes to
- 1:28Speaker 1: our long term development because we make more throws playing
- 1:31Speaker 1: catch than anything else. So if we're not doing that well,
- 1:35Speaker 1: we can't expect to be doing the other things in
- 1:37Speaker 1: development well, like pitching and things on the mound if
- 1:40Speaker 1: we can't do something as simple as playing catch with
- 1:42Speaker 1: our partner effectively. And I specifically want to dive into
- 1:46Speaker 1: a couple of different categories of ways that we can
- 1:48Speaker 1: improve our catch play. And it's really going to stem
- 1:51Speaker 1: from this idea that guys really struggle from closer distances.
- 1:56Speaker 1: They struggle with regulating their intensity. And if we can't
- 2:00Speaker 1: regulate our intensity effectively, then you know, whether it's a
- 2:03Speaker 1: low day, a medium day, or high day, we're not
- 2:05Speaker 1: going to really fully be accessing what we want to
- 2:08Speaker 1: accomplish on those days if we don't know how to
- 2:11Speaker 1: control our arm and control what we're trying to accomplish
- 2:13Speaker 1: on any given day. And I'll be honest with you,
- 2:15Speaker 1: this has kind of been a surprise to me, a
- 2:18Speaker 1: slight surprise. I've obviously known, you know, with younger players,
- 2:22Speaker 1: there's typically a little bit less feel. It takes a
- 2:24Speaker 1: little bit more time for them to understand what they
- 2:26Speaker 1: need to do on any given day. But ever since
- 2:29Speaker 1: I started doing you know, full time in person training
- 2:32Speaker 1: with players in the private sector about a year ago,
- 2:35Speaker 1: I've noticed a common trend, and that trend is is
- 2:38Speaker 1: that guys really struggle from short distances, and if they
- 2:41Speaker 1: are throwing from a short distance, they feel like they
- 2:43Speaker 1: have to throw it hard in order to be accurate.
- 2:45Speaker 1: So if they're not throwing it hard, then they're just
- 2:47Speaker 1: lobbying it and they're getting very pushy. They're throwing it
- 2:50Speaker 1: over their partner's head, they're spiking the ball, they're doing
- 2:53Speaker 1: all of these things that just don't look natural or comfortable,
- 2:56Speaker 1: and obviously that can lead to a long term issue
- 2:58Speaker 1: potentially of something like that the yips and struggling, you know,
- 3:01Speaker 1: from further distances, struggling on the mound. So I really
- 3:04Speaker 1: want to bring an emphasis and some thoughts and ideas
- 3:07Speaker 1: to help eliminate some of these issues.
- 3:10Speaker 2: And the first thing that I want to.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Talk about when it comes to regulating your intensity and
- 3:14Speaker 1: specifically throwing at lower intensities without getting pushy, without slowing
- 3:19Speaker 1: down into release and really affecting the throw, is this
- 3:22Speaker 1: idea of still accelerating the arm. So what I mean
- 3:25Speaker 1: by accelerating the arm is as I'm going into ball release,
- 3:28Speaker 1: my arm should.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Be gaining speed.
- 3:30Speaker 1: What I see oftentimes is guys will go at their
- 3:33Speaker 1: normal tempo, their normal speed into their leg lift, and
- 3:36Speaker 1: the second they go to throw the ball, they slow down.
- 3:39Speaker 1: They're slowing down, their elbow drops, they get pushy, and
- 3:41Speaker 1: the ball is thrown all over the place. We want
- 3:45Speaker 1: to make sure that we are still accelerating. Now you
- 3:47Speaker 1: might be asking, okay, that's great. Now, how do I
- 3:49Speaker 1: accelerate without actually throwing the ball hard? And it's very simple.
- 3:54Speaker 1: You're starting speed, you're starting tempo in your delivery just
- 3:57Speaker 1: simply needs to be slower. So let's just use you know, percentage.
- 4:00Speaker 1: I think percentages is one of the easier ways to
- 4:02Speaker 1: understand this. If my starting tempo is at let's just
- 4:06Speaker 1: say thirty percent of my max speed. My body can move,
- 4:09Speaker 1: and I'm eventually gonna build it from thirty percent to
- 4:11Speaker 1: one hundred percent effort on a max effort throw. Then,
- 4:14Speaker 1: if I'm going to go at let's just say fifty
- 4:17Speaker 1: percent effort of a throw, I can't be starting at
- 4:19Speaker 1: that thirty percent effort in the delivery because if I
- 4:22Speaker 1: do that, it's gonna feel like I'm slowing down. It's
- 4:24Speaker 1: gonna feel like I have to change something later in
- 4:26Speaker 1: the delivery to not throw it at one hundred percent
- 4:29Speaker 1: effort or to throw it at least at a higher effort.
- 4:31Speaker 1: So maybe our starting tempo needs to be ten percent,
- 4:34Speaker 1: So ten percent speed, so I'm moving a little bit slower,
- 4:36Speaker 1: but I'm still able to gradually gain speed into the
- 4:39Speaker 1: throw and accelerate my arm into release. Another simple way
- 4:43Speaker 1: to think about this is just to have rhythm.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Right.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Oftentimes when you see guys throwing slow or slowing down
- 4:48Speaker 1: to release, is they just have no rhythm. They're choppy.
- 4:51Speaker 1: They go fast at one point then slow at another,
- 4:53Speaker 1: or vice versa versus just a nice easy I'm flowing,
- 4:57Speaker 1: I'm gradually picking up speed. I have rhythm. I have
- 4:59Speaker 1: temp that is what we are looking for. We're looking
- 5:02Speaker 1: for freedom and rhythm in the throw. That is by
- 5:05Speaker 1: far the number one thing I see as the biggest
- 5:08Speaker 1: issue for catch play from shorter distances or just.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Trying to throw at lower intensities.
- 5:12Speaker 1: Now, if you're someone that still really struggles with this,
- 5:14Speaker 1: there's a couple of ways that we can mitigate these
- 5:17Speaker 1: types of situations or mitigate these types of throws. One
- 5:20Speaker 1: of them is to simply throw from further distances to start,
- 5:23Speaker 1: So maybe I don't start at forty five feet instead,
- 5:26Speaker 1: I start at sixty or seventy five feet even And
- 5:29Speaker 1: if you're doing a proper warm up, if you're taking
- 5:31Speaker 1: yourself through a dynamic and mobility, you're doing plios or bands,
- 5:35Speaker 1: whatever it might be, you really don't need those forty
- 5:38Speaker 1: five foot throws are definitely even closer than that, So
- 5:41Speaker 1: your first few throws could be from a little bit
- 5:42Speaker 1: further distance, so you just feel like you have a
- 5:44Speaker 1: little bit more freedom and you're not as restricted. A
- 5:47Speaker 1: couple other ideas would just be on those low effort
- 5:49Speaker 1: days is to spend more time on the plios, and
- 5:50Speaker 1: maybe you don't even do baseball throws on those days,
- 5:53Speaker 1: but I would argue that it's not necessarily solving the problem.
- 5:57Speaker 2: You're just kind of avoiding it and putting a band
- 5:59Speaker 2: aid on it.
- 6:00Speaker 1: But in some cases, if if the issue severe enough,
- 6:03Speaker 1: you might have to do stuff like that to start,
- 6:05Speaker 1: or you just throw into a net with a target
- 6:07Speaker 1: to where you have a little bit more freedom and
- 6:09Speaker 1: you don't feel like there's as much pressure to make
- 6:11Speaker 1: a good throw with your partner close. So it's just
- 6:15Speaker 1: a couple simple ideas. Once again, a lot of those
- 6:17Speaker 1: are kind of just masking the issue. We want to
- 6:18Speaker 1: make sure that we're attacking it head on, Like you
- 6:20Speaker 1: should be able to make a throw from forty five
- 6:22Speaker 1: feet accurately without feeling like you have to change your mechanics,
- 6:26Speaker 1: drop your elbow, get very pushy. I think the biggest
- 6:30Speaker 1: thing that you'll see is once you learn how to
- 6:32Speaker 1: just start slower with your tempo, be loosed, and still
- 6:34Speaker 1: accelerate your arm through release, you're going to feel like
- 6:37Speaker 1: this is much easier. Another thing that you can do
- 6:39Speaker 1: with this is to do more constraint throws from these
- 6:44Speaker 1: closer distances. So maybe you're doing like a tent to's
- 6:46Speaker 1: where you're facing square to your target, you're counter rotating
- 6:49Speaker 1: you're making a throw. Maybe you're doing like a figure eight,
- 6:52Speaker 1: or you're doing a rock, or you're doing something that's
- 6:53Speaker 1: putting yourself in a little bit more of a constrained
- 6:55Speaker 1: position to where you're already not going to throw as hard,
- 6:59Speaker 1: and it's more focus on the drill rather than just
- 7:01Speaker 1: trying to place the ball and baby it to your partner.
- 7:04Speaker 2: So that's the number one thing.
- 7:06Speaker 1: The second thing, and this is something that I talked
- 7:09Speaker 1: about with Alan Jagermy and Jostu when he was on
- 7:11Speaker 1: the show, is the benefits of longos and long tooss
- 7:15Speaker 1: is obviously something that we talk about a lot from
- 7:17Speaker 1: a velocity development standpoint of using it as an arm
- 7:21Speaker 1: strengthening and conditioning part of your programming, but I would
- 7:25Speaker 1: argue that long tooss really helps improve the feel of
- 7:28Speaker 1: the baseball and understanding how to regulate your intensity, understanding
- 7:32Speaker 1: the effort that needs to go into each throw to
- 7:34Speaker 1: reach your partner and throw it accurately. Long tooss is
- 7:37Speaker 1: another version of variability training. We're changing the distances, we're
- 7:41Speaker 1: changing the height we're throwing it, we're changing the velocity,
- 7:44Speaker 1: and still trying to do all that while throwing the
- 7:46Speaker 1: ball right out our partner's chest. And it's funny. I
- 7:48Speaker 1: was talking to one of my clients who's more of
- 7:53Speaker 1: a veteran player. He's in his early thirties, and we
- 7:56Speaker 1: talked about long tooss and how we both thought that
- 7:58Speaker 1: that helped us with command because you're constantly throwing from
- 8:02Speaker 1: different distances. You're going out to three hundred plus feet
- 8:05Speaker 1: and still trying to throw the ball within a window
- 8:07Speaker 1: of the body and still trying to be accurate. Then
- 8:10Speaker 1: you start coming down, you're doing pulldowns. So what do
- 8:12Speaker 1: you guys mostly do when they do pulldowns after long
- 8:14Speaker 1: toss is they miss up, So you have to control
- 8:16Speaker 1: for that. You have to adjust. You're constantly adjusting your
- 8:20Speaker 1: targeting and trying to hit your partner in the chest.
- 8:22Speaker 1: And this is something that I'm starting to learn now
- 8:25Speaker 1: in the private sector and doing a lot of throwing inside.
- 8:28Speaker 1: In some cases, especially during the summer in Arizona when
- 8:30Speaker 1: it's one hundred and twenty degrees outside. Is there is
- 8:33Speaker 1: a huge difference between lng tossing indoors into a cage
- 8:38Speaker 1: compared to long tossing outside. A couple of reasons for that.
- 8:41Speaker 1: The first one is you obviously don't have a clear
- 8:44Speaker 1: target that you're throwing to. You can try to build
- 8:47Speaker 1: up the net, you can try to simulate at the
- 8:49Speaker 1: best you can, and it's a great alternative when it's
- 8:51Speaker 1: all you have. But it can be very easy to
- 8:55Speaker 1: not necessarily know where you're throwing it or have a
- 8:57Speaker 1: clear focus on a target, and that is by far
- 9:01Speaker 1: one of the biggest issues I see with guys. If
- 9:02Speaker 1: they just throw into a net all the time and
- 9:04Speaker 1: they start throwing outside in this big open space and
- 9:07Speaker 1: they're trying to throw it to a specific target, those
- 9:09Speaker 1: guys tend to struggle, at least at first with getting
- 9:11Speaker 1: that feel and that adjustability. So we want to make
- 9:14Speaker 1: sure that we're stretching it out to far distances. For
- 9:16Speaker 1: that alone, I just think it really does a great
- 9:19Speaker 1: job of increasing your feel and just your understanding of
- 9:23Speaker 1: how you need to release the ball, regulating your intensity
- 9:26Speaker 1: to reach your partner, along with numerous other benefits of lolentoss,
- 9:30Speaker 1: and it's kind of something that a lot of guys
- 9:32Speaker 1: don't do as much anymore, at least from the people
- 9:34Speaker 1: that I work with and just watching from the outside
- 9:36Speaker 1: from some other places, just like very far max distance
- 9:40Speaker 1: Loan tooss isn't as common anymore, so I would encourage
- 9:44Speaker 1: you to stretch it out more, go to those longer distances,
- 9:47Speaker 1: work on the feel of the ball and understanding how
- 9:49Speaker 1: you need to regulate that intensity and being able to
- 9:52Speaker 1: control the ball. The third one, this is a very
- 9:55Speaker 1: common thing now, is more athletic base throws. So just
- 9:58Speaker 1: instead of being that robotic position of trying to throw it,
- 10:02Speaker 1: you know, to your partner right from pitch number one,
- 10:04Speaker 1: out of your leg, lift, let's move your feet, pretend
- 10:06Speaker 1: like you're a shortstop backhand of ball. You know, feel
- 10:09Speaker 1: that like you're coming in for a slow roller. Anything
- 10:11Speaker 1: that we can do to keep us free and athletic,
- 10:14Speaker 1: the better, because it, once again, it comes down to
- 10:16Speaker 1: variability training. Once again, we're throwing from different angles, different positions,
- 10:20Speaker 1: and still trying to hit our partner in the same
- 10:22Speaker 1: spot every single time. And I had another conversation. She
- 10:26Speaker 1: was the same conversation with the same guy that I
- 10:28Speaker 1: work with. We were talking about how a lot of
- 10:30Speaker 1: pitchers in high school now are pos versus When we
- 10:33Speaker 1: were in high school, it was pretty uncommon for guys
- 10:36Speaker 1: to be pos. You know, maybe you had one, maybe
- 10:39Speaker 1: two on each team, But for the most part, guys
- 10:42Speaker 1: were two way. They were playing the field when they
- 10:43Speaker 1: weren't pitching, and the benefit of that is you're playing
- 10:47Speaker 1: other positions. You're making throws from the outfield, from the infield,
- 10:50Speaker 1: and you're just staying free and athletic. And sometimes when
- 10:53Speaker 1: you're a po too early, it can be easy just
- 10:56Speaker 1: to focus so much on your mechanics. You become so
- 11:00Speaker 1: robotic that literally every throw you're doing a leg lift
- 11:03Speaker 1: or your focus on something specific mechanically, Sometimes the best
- 11:06Speaker 1: thing you can do is just to free yourself up,
- 11:08Speaker 1: move your feet, be athletic, have fun while all while
- 11:11Speaker 1: still trying to hit your partner in the chest. So
- 11:13Speaker 1: that one's one where you can kind of get creative
- 11:15Speaker 1: and you know, and have some fun with it. It
- 11:17Speaker 1: doesn't need to be super regimented. But like as you're
- 11:19Speaker 1: going out, as you're going to different distances, like throw
- 11:22Speaker 1: from different angles, pretend like you're feeling the ball. I
- 11:24Speaker 1: can didn't feel their, do crohops, do all these different
- 11:26Speaker 1: things that are going to challenge you to still throw
- 11:28Speaker 1: the ball at your partner. And then the last one,
- 11:32Speaker 1: which is you know, one of the most important ones
- 11:34Speaker 1: by far, is the mental side. And this doesn't apply
- 11:37Speaker 1: just to catch play. It can apply to your bullpen work.
- 11:39Speaker 1: It can apply obviously to anything in life, not even
- 11:42Speaker 1: just in baseball. But one of the most common things
- 11:45Speaker 1: I hear when I ask someone what is going through
- 11:48Speaker 1: your head when you're throwing the ball? Specifically guys that
- 11:50Speaker 1: struggle with throwing it accurately and they're, you know, they're
- 11:53Speaker 1: trying to force the ball to be perfect. I ask
- 11:56Speaker 1: them like, what are you thinking? What are the type
- 11:57Speaker 1: of thoughts that you're telling yourself before you throw the ball?
- 12:00Speaker 1: And nine out of ten times they will say something
- 12:03Speaker 1: along the lines of don't make a bad throw or
- 12:06Speaker 1: don't make a mistake. Here they're always telling themselves what
- 12:09Speaker 1: they don't want to do, rather than telling themselves what
- 12:13Speaker 1: they do want to do. And the mind is a
- 12:14Speaker 1: very powerful thing. When all we tell ourselves is what
- 12:17Speaker 1: we don't want to do. I feel like, and this
- 12:19Speaker 1: is a common thing that people say. I don't know
- 12:20Speaker 1: if it's actually true, but it does feel true for me,
- 12:23Speaker 1: and I know other people have felt this as well.
- 12:26Speaker 1: Is when you tell yourself what not to do, all
- 12:28Speaker 1: you hear is the last part. So if I tell
- 12:30Speaker 1: myself don't make a bad throw. All my mind here
- 12:33Speaker 1: is make a bad throw, and that's what I tend
- 12:36Speaker 1: to do. Versus if I tell myself be aggressive with
- 12:39Speaker 1: the fastball, or throw the ball through your partner's chest,
- 12:42Speaker 1: things like that that are positive, aggressive mindset actions, you're
- 12:46Speaker 1: more likely to accomplish that because your mind is hearing
- 12:49Speaker 1: what you want to do rather than what you don't
- 12:50Speaker 1: want to do. So that's just a simple fix on
- 12:52Speaker 1: the mental side that you can start to shift your
- 12:54Speaker 1: mindset of the way you think that I think can
- 12:57Speaker 1: be super beneficial. So this was a short episode. I've
- 13:00Speaker 1: just been thinking about this quite a bit, just playing
- 13:02Speaker 1: catch with guys every day, watching them throw, and you know,
- 13:06Speaker 1: we make so many throws a day and catch play
- 13:08Speaker 1: like this is it's done daily, right, Like we don't
- 13:10Speaker 1: throw bullpens every day, but we do play catch every
- 13:12Speaker 1: day or every day that we pick up a baseball
- 13:14Speaker 1: at least. And if we're not focusing on the things
- 13:17Speaker 1: that we need to focus on, or we're not maximizing
- 13:19Speaker 1: this time, I think we're missing out on a little
- 13:21Speaker 1: bit of the development piece. And I think there can
- 13:23Speaker 1: just be a lot of really good things that can
- 13:25Speaker 1: happen as a result, so I appreciate you guys listening.
- 13:28Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your feedback on things that you've done,
- 13:31Speaker 1: maybe as a player or as a coach. You things
- 13:34Speaker 1: that you've seen that players struggle with, and maybe some
- 13:36Speaker 1: things that you have used to help them get better
- 13:39Speaker 1: and work through this. I'd love to hear your thoughts,
- 13:41Speaker 1: and as always, feel free to reach out on social media.
- 13:45Speaker 1: You can direct message me or you can send me
- 13:47Speaker 1: an email. I'd love to talk pitching and until next time,
- 13:50Speaker 1: I'll see you guys then