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Transforming Healthcare From Reactive to Proactive with Al Pirnia · Ageless and Timeless Podcast®

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Speaker 1: Good morning everyone.
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Speaker 2: This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless. Today I
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Speaker 2: have a very special guest, and I know I always
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Speaker 2: say that, but all my guests are incredible. But today's
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Speaker 2: guest is Al Pernia. And Al and I know each
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Speaker 2: other for about a year now. We met at two conferences, actually,
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Speaker 2: the fab Mancini conference in Los Angeles and the Radfest
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Speaker 2: conference in Anaheim, and that was a.
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Speaker 1: Little over a year ago. I think was September, right, Al.
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Speaker 3: Actually, I think it's almost two years.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're kidding me. Oh my gosh, is
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Speaker 1: that true. It was.
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Speaker 3: This last we met at Radfest for the first time,
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Speaker 3: and that was two years ago, not this Ratfest, but
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Speaker 3: they before.
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Speaker 2: Oh thank you for correcting me. You see how I
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Speaker 2: see how time flies right and having fun? Well, anyway,
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Speaker 2: welcome to Ageless and Timeless. I know we've been talking
1:11
Speaker 2: about having you, and I was so happy to be
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Speaker 2: your guest on your podcast with Stephanie, who is just amazing,
1:22
Speaker 2: and we had such a good time.
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Speaker 1: And that was early this year, right February, I think
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Speaker 1: it was.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, I'm glad.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad we're now finally getting to reciprocate. So Elle,
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Speaker 2: you know, you have such an amazing background. I want
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Speaker 2: everybody to appreciate all that you've done in over thirty
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Speaker 2: years of being in the functional medicine space.
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Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, and a little less.
1:48
Speaker 2: I don't want to make you older than any older
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Speaker 2: because we were all getting younger, right at least biologically
1:54
Speaker 2: we hope. But yeah, no, you you have such an
1:57
Speaker 2: interesting background your you know, biochemistry and chemical engineering at
2:03
Speaker 2: University of London, right and then yes, and then you
2:06
Speaker 2: got your MBA from.
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Speaker 3: USC That's right, that's right.
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Speaker 2: So you have a combination of business and well technical
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Speaker 2: but not technical in the way that you know we
2:18
Speaker 2: would think would end up in the functional medicine space.
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Speaker 2: So why didn't you tell us a little bit more
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Speaker 2: about your journey and how did you end up here
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Speaker 2: where you are today?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I After I got my MBA, I went into
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Speaker 3: the financial industry. I worked for American Express and Shaarson
2:36
Speaker 3: Lehman Brothers with some of the top people, the chairman,
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Speaker 3: the vice chairman in investments in banking, and it was
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Speaker 3: an incredible experience. It happened by chance and my father
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Speaker 3: was diagnosed with lung cancer and that experience just really
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Speaker 3: disgusted me, and I started thinking about our healthcare system,
2:59
Speaker 3: and I wanted to spend the last two years that
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Speaker 3: he had with him, so I resigned and during that
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Speaker 3: time I spent a lot thinking about what we should
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Speaker 3: do about healthcare. I had that biochemistry background, and it
3:15
Speaker 3: was during the Internet startup phase, and I thought, well,
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Speaker 3: maybe all we got to do is get these physicians
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Speaker 3: to become more integrated and become more proactive. And I thought,
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Speaker 3: let's use the Internet to get these physicians to do that,
3:29
Speaker 3: and I raised a bunch of money through venture capital.
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Speaker 3: We were one of the first ones to raise money
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Speaker 3: for the space back then, and unfortunately, at that time,
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Speaker 3: nobody was ready. The Internet wasn't ready, society wasn't ready,
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Speaker 3: and even the physicians weren't ready. And it actually didn't
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Speaker 3: work out. The company didn't work out, but I was
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Speaker 3: one of the first people to raise serious money, so
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Speaker 3: I had access to some of the best people, and
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Speaker 3: in the process I realized what we really need to
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Speaker 3: do is not make physicians more integrated, but actually address
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Speaker 3: the root cause, which is our food and getting people
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Speaker 3: to make better food choices. Understanding that if we don't
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Speaker 3: get the food right, everything else's band aid. So from
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Speaker 3: there we started all over again, and I've been on
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Speaker 3: this journey to bring us to where we are today,
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Speaker 3: where I believe we truly have a roadmap to change
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Speaker 3: the direction of healthcare in this country to becoming proactive.
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Speaker 1: And hopefully with the new administration and Robert F.
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Speaker 2: Kennedy and his MAHA movement, we will have a lot
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Speaker 2: more support from the government side.
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Speaker 1: Do you agree with that?
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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, for sure. I always knew that we would
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Speaker 3: come to a point in this country where everything would
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Speaker 3: be aligned, and we're there now. Everybody is ready. Not
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Speaker 3: just we have RFK and the government supporting this kind
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Speaker 3: of healthcare trying to address the root cause of chronic illness,
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Speaker 3: but I think society at large is after COVID, is
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Speaker 3: open to this kind of healthcare. I just had a
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Speaker 3: conference for CEOs at the Rich Carlton Laguna this last weekend,
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Speaker 3: and even CEOs are starting to become interested and open
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Speaker 3: to trying to approach healthcare in a different way. Everybody,
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Speaker 3: I think is realizing this model of managing symptoms for
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Speaker 3: the rest of your life is not only an unhealthy approach,
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Speaker 3: but it's going to bankrupt everybody literally everybody from the
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Speaker 3: government down. So you know, we're at a point in
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Speaker 3: time where society, practitioners, the government, everybody is ready and
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Speaker 3: we who have been in this journey for all these years,
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Speaker 3: now is the time for us to have impact.
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Speaker 2: Well, it is a rather pathetic situation when you see
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Speaker 2: that we are you know.
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Speaker 1: The leading country and the world.
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Speaker 2: We spend more on healthcare than any other country, and
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Speaker 2: we are last in the and.
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Speaker 1: The you know, the Western world anyway in our healthcare standing.
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Speaker 2: So what a what a horrible report card that is,
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Speaker 2: you know, and you know, you could point a lot
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Speaker 2: of fingers. We won't get into all the politics today,
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Speaker 2: but what do you think is the root cause of
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Speaker 2: us not looking at root cause versus symptoms?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think the foundational problem is twofold. One is
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Speaker 3: just our lifestyle and the food and then once we
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Speaker 3: start having issues the healthcare system. We really aren't eating
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Speaker 3: real food, the body is not getting nourishment and nutrients
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Speaker 3: it needs, and the environment, the stress, the toxicity, It
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Speaker 3: all adds up where we start having issues and once
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Speaker 3: we have those issues, weasically are then given medication to
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Speaker 3: address the symptom instead of getting to the root cause.
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Speaker 3: At that early stage, it's so easy to fix the
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Speaker 3: root cause, but we don't address it, we don't even
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Speaker 3: care about it, and we start managing it with drugs
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Speaker 3: and medication that has other side effects, and we start
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Speaker 3: this journey of one medication, then two medications, and three medications,
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Speaker 3: and by the time we're sixty or seventy, we're on
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Speaker 3: ten or fifteen or twenty medications, never having addressed the
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Speaker 3: root cause, and never you know, trying to make amends
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Speaker 3: as to why things are happening to us. So that's
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Speaker 3: why everybody's unhappy. You know, society is unhappy with this
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Speaker 3: healthcare system. We're spending more money than everybody put together.
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Speaker 3: The physicians are aren't happy. Everybody is unhappy. And that's why,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's our time now to change this system
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Speaker 3: from being reactive to being proactive. And that's what we're
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Speaker 3: all doing right now.
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Speaker 1: I love that.
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Speaker 2: That's such a accurate way to say it, and probably
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Speaker 2: one of the most succinct I've heard, you know, the
8:04
Speaker 2: even just the recent government shutdown and this, you know,
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Speaker 2: insistence on funding Obamacare. Are continuing to fund Obamacare. It's
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Speaker 2: just more of the same. We're not addressing the root problem.
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Speaker 2: The cause of the problem is why are we the
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Speaker 2: most expensive healthcare system and we want to continue to
8:22
Speaker 2: increase those payments without addressing what you just said. So,
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Speaker 2: you know, another thing that bothers me a lot because
8:32
Speaker 2: I watch a lot of sports is that the advertising.
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Speaker 2: Ninety percent of the advertising on the NFL, as an example,
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Speaker 2: it's either fast food or pharmasceeutical drugs.
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Speaker 1: So what can we do about that?
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Speaker 2: You know, we're just individuals who have obviously have a
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Speaker 2: passionate interest and change and improvement and going proactive, like
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Speaker 2: you just said. But you know, how do you deal
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Speaker 2: with the the monolithic system when you're just a single
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Speaker 2: person and you want to make a change.
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Speaker 3: You know, what do you do?
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Speaker 1: What? What are your thoughts?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough to fight the industrial pharmaceutical food industry.
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Speaker 3: They have so much money and they can spend all
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Speaker 3: that money on advertising, and that's part of the problem.
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Speaker 3: People are being educated through the advertising thinking that this
9:30
Speaker 3: is the model. You know, I'm going to wait till
9:31
Speaker 3: i'm disease and have somebody manage it. And the food
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Speaker 3: they're being advertised is the food they're buying, which in
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Speaker 3: many things is not helping with their health. So that's
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Speaker 3: why I've come to the conclusion we cannot compete with
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Speaker 3: that kind of resources and that kind of money that's
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Speaker 3: being spent. We have to do this on a grassroots level,
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Speaker 3: and for all these years, I've been trying to do
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Speaker 3: that through functional medicine clinics. So we've built a network
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Speaker 3: of functional medicine clinics, provide them with a tremendous amount
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Speaker 3: of support and resource, introducing them to the latest technologies,
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Speaker 3: helping them having greatest success with their practice. But I've
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Speaker 3: come to the conclusion, unfortunately, that we're really not going
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Speaker 3: to move the needle with this one on one approach
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Speaker 3: of a clinician seeing a patient one at a time,
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Speaker 3: and we got to go to the masses. And the
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Speaker 3: only way to do that, I believe, is through corporate.
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Speaker 3: Now we have this incredible tax credit that gives the
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Speaker 3: funding for companies to spend on the health and wellness
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Speaker 3: of their employees. And that was the biggest challenge in
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Speaker 3: the past when I tried to do corporate every time
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Speaker 3: it would be I don't have the money, we don't
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Speaker 3: have the budget, and it would be an uphill battle.
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Speaker 3: Now because of this tax credit, which is just literally
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Speaker 3: found money for companies. They can spend five hundred dollars
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Speaker 3: per year per employee and get people to start becoming
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Speaker 3: proactive with their health. We introduce the technologies, we have
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Speaker 3: the programs, we have the events to edge ucate these
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Speaker 3: employees on what they need to do. And that's what
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Speaker 3: I'm hopeful that we can start pursuing to really get
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Speaker 3: to the masses, because again, we don't have the money
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Speaker 3: to compete with the pharmaceutical and the food industry and advertising,
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Speaker 3: so we got to find another way. That's the way
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Speaker 3: that we're going about this.
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Speaker 2: So let's go dive in a little bit more to
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Speaker 2: what your programs are all about, because I think people
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Speaker 2: need to know how much you have accomplished in this space.
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Speaker 2: So you know, we have Transformation three sixty, We have
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Speaker 2: the executive Conferences, the CEO conferences. We have the Medical
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Speaker 2: Practitioner Conference that these are both annual, those two, and
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Speaker 2: then you have the WYCO Score, which we want to
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Speaker 2: talk about the whycos sounding like psycho, but a score
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Speaker 2: to help people with their wellness.
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Speaker 1: So could you talk about each of those and give us.
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Speaker 2: A little more depth about what each one is about
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Speaker 2: and hoped what you hope to accomplish.
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Speaker 3: Sure, So when I first started after we started all
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Speaker 3: over again, after that tobacco with the VCS and that
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Speaker 3: company that we started, I realized that we got to
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Speaker 3: get the food right, and so we created a program
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Speaker 3: called Transformation three sixty, which is one of the original
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Speaker 3: mild ketogenic elimination diets where people are eating real food.
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Speaker 3: There's no meal or placements, there are shakes and bars.
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Speaker 3: It's basically a program where you have a breakfast, lunch,
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Speaker 3: and dinner with a protein and a healthy carb and
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Speaker 3: within two days we get people into a mild state
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Speaker 3: of quitosis and it's like the Twilight zone. After that,
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Speaker 3: people have no hunger, no cravings, great energy, great mental state.
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Speaker 3: They feel fantastic. Most importantly, every marker starts normalizing and
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Speaker 3: they start understanding food because they're eating real food, a breakfast, luncheon, dinner,
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Speaker 3: approaching healthy carb but each meal. Now, before we have
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Speaker 3: somebody start the program, we have them complete what we
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Speaker 3: call their WYCO questionnaire. WYCO stands for a Wellness Index
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Speaker 3: Condition Optimal and it works just like FYCO. When you
14:29
Speaker 3: complete this, you get a score. The score over seven
14:32
Speaker 3: fifty is good. As it goes down, it's bad. So
14:35
Speaker 3: everybody understands if they have a bad score. If it's
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Speaker 3: like five fifty or six fifty, I'm like, oh my god,
14:40
Speaker 3: what's wrong. And then they want they see that that
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Speaker 3: score is a function of how many severe, moderate, and
14:46
Speaker 3: mild conditions they have from these fifteen functions that basically
14:50
Speaker 3: determines how well the body is performing. So there's thyroid function,
14:55
Speaker 3: liver function, renal function, the digestion. These are all key
15:00
Speaker 3: functions of the body. And if there is an imbalance there,
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Speaker 3: why you can't lose why you can't lose weight, why
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Speaker 3: you can't keep it off, why you have cholesterol, why
15:07
Speaker 3: you have blood sugar, why you have this, why you
15:09
Speaker 3: have that many times has to do because there's an
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Speaker 3: imbalance in the function of the body. So the first
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Speaker 3: step that everybody should take is to understand where those
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Speaker 3: fifteen functions stand, and we give them a score so
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Speaker 3: they understand if it's if they're in doing well or not.
15:23
Speaker 3: And then what we do is we take them through
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Speaker 3: this elimination mild ketogenic diet. We're for five to ten weeks.
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Speaker 3: What's exciting with that five to ten weeks is one
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Speaker 3: we start targeting the abdominal fat, so we get rid
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Speaker 3: of the abdominal fat, a lot of inches around your waist,
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Speaker 3: the most dangerous fat on the body, and the blood
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Speaker 3: sugar drops dramatically, unbelievable dropping blood sugar. And then after
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Speaker 3: five or ten weeks we redo WYCO. The changes are
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Speaker 3: quite dramatic. If there's a lot of severs that disappear
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Speaker 3: that in case there's a food and tones, if there's
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Speaker 3: any severe that stays in the case of chronic condition,
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Speaker 3: anything that's a mile or a modet in the case
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Speaker 3: of nutritional deficiency, and literally four clicks of a button,
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Speaker 3: we create a plan of action to address whatever else
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Speaker 3: is there, making food recommendations, supplement recommendations, lifestyle recommendations, and
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Speaker 3: therapy recommendations. And literally that program by itself, transformation at
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Speaker 3: three sixty could solve the healthcare crisis in this country
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Speaker 3: because if we can give people control over blood sugar
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Speaker 3: and body composition, we would not have a healthcare crisis.
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Speaker 3: There are the two main drivers of these in this country.
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Speaker 3: So that's how we started many years ago, and we
16:31
Speaker 3: licensed thousands of clinics to offer this program, and it
16:34
Speaker 3: works like clockwork. You do it as designed, you have
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Speaker 3: the results. It's not a pill in the Bottel solution.
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Speaker 3: It's a process, but you follow that process amazing results,
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Speaker 3: and that's how we kind of started. But we realized
16:48
Speaker 3: after a while that there's a lot of other technologies
16:52
Speaker 3: practitioners should become aware of. So that's when we started
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Speaker 3: staging what we call the Changing Life and Destiny Conference.
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Speaker 3: It's primarily for or functional medicine practitioners and professionals and
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Speaker 3: people may be biohackers and people who are really interested
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Speaker 3: in this space of health of wellness, and we showcase
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Speaker 3: in April in Dallas at the end of April one
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Speaker 3: hundred technologies. This could be a lymphatic device that really
17:20
Speaker 3: gets the body to detox. It could be a red
17:22
Speaker 3: light system. It could be a technology that gets rid
17:25
Speaker 3: of viruses and cancer cells using a microcurrent. It could
17:29
Speaker 3: be a test that shows what's going on in the microbiome.
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Speaker 3: I mean, is just unbelievable that the number of new
17:36
Speaker 3: technologies that's coming every year that helps practitioners to understand
17:42
Speaker 3: what's really going on inside the body and then make recommendations.
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Speaker 3: So the objective of the Changing Life in Destiny Conference
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Speaker 3: the end of April in Dallas is to showcase one
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Speaker 3: hundred technologies in three days and nothing else. We don't
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Speaker 3: have somebody talking about how they made a billion dollars
17:57
Speaker 3: or how they got ten gold medals. It's just basically
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Speaker 3: showcasing these one hundred technologies, and we give a practitioner
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Speaker 3: who comes an incentive to use twenty five or more
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Speaker 3: of these technologies by offering them a metaverse clinic. Now,
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Speaker 3: the metaverse, a lot of people have a lot of
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Speaker 3: negative connotations with goggles and Facebook and all the you
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Speaker 3: don't need any special equipment, you don't need any how goggles.
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Speaker 3: But the metaverse in the manner that we're talking about,
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Speaker 3: is really the only way for us to educate society
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Speaker 3: on what's possible. The practitioner doesn't have the time to
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Speaker 3: sit with every patient that comes in and says, look
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Speaker 3: at this, look at that, and spend two hours answering questions.
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Speaker 3: The metaverse can do it better than they can using AI.
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Speaker 3: So we incentivize our practitioner to use twenty five of
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Speaker 3: one hundred by giving them a metaverse clinic, which solves
18:46
Speaker 3: their patient acquisition and patient education challenges. And that's that's
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Speaker 3: the next step of what we created. After we started
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Speaker 3: training and licensing these these healthcare practitioners on the Transformation
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Speaker 3: three sixty program. Now, as I mentioned earlier, now I
19:03
Speaker 3: realized that if we really want to move that needle
19:06
Speaker 3: and have bigger impact on the masses, we have to
19:09
Speaker 3: go to corporate. So we created this what we call
19:12
Speaker 3: the Changing Life in Destiny Executive Wellness Retreat. We just
19:17
Speaker 3: had it at the Rich Carlton Laguna Beach, a two
19:20
Speaker 3: day event. Amazing response. Everybody is raving about this. I'm
19:25
Speaker 3: talking about the CEOs and the executives who were there.
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Speaker 3: On Saturday, we just had literally back to back presentations
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Speaker 3: between ten and twenty minutes on almost thirty technologies, and
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Speaker 3: then on Sunday we had everybody experience those technologies. We
19:39
Speaker 3: have them able to ask questions, we had them to
19:44
Speaker 3: go around and see what's there. But also we introduced
19:49
Speaker 3: them to the tax credit. So on the one hand,
19:51
Speaker 3: we're saying, here is how we need to move as
19:54
Speaker 3: a society in terms of addressing our health. But here
19:58
Speaker 3: is the money that we can access to spend on
20:01
Speaker 3: ourselves and our employees to help them also take advantage
20:05
Speaker 3: of these technologies. And that was incredibly successful. And in
20:09
Speaker 3: addition to all of that, we offered also a whole
20:13
Speaker 3: bunch of testing. We did brain test, a liver test,
20:16
Speaker 3: a hard test, the DNA test, a gut test, a
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Speaker 3: plastics test, an own bugut test. All these tests were
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Speaker 3: available so that we could show the executives what's going
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Speaker 3: on inside their body and more importantly, how we can
20:28
Speaker 3: fix those problems without drugs and medication, getting to the
20:32
Speaker 3: root cause. So that's kind of what our game plan
20:37
Speaker 3: is right now, is to partner our practitioners with local companies,
20:43
Speaker 3: get the executives excited about what's possible, show them the money,
20:47
Speaker 3: and really get them to work with us to take
20:50
Speaker 3: these programs into their company, helping their employees to get
20:53
Speaker 3: onto this kind of healthcare.
20:55
Speaker 2: And then do once you have these companies signed up,
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Speaker 2: but they then have the doctor, a medical doctor that
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Speaker 2: is advising.
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Speaker 1: Them on the program.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was saying, is that we partner
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Speaker 3: the company with the local clinic, because now we have
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Speaker 3: the clinics all over the country that work with us.
21:15
Speaker 3: They all these clinics want to do more, they don't
21:17
Speaker 3: want to do less, right, and you know they're they're
21:21
Speaker 3: Unfortunately insurance doesn't cover wellness. It's all about disease management.
21:25
Speaker 3: So if you want to take insurance and solve a problem.
21:30
Speaker 3: Uh with with our approach, it really doesn't pay. So
21:33
Speaker 3: we got to you know, approach it from a cash basis.
21:36
Speaker 3: So the clinics that we work, they're all cash based.
21:39
Speaker 3: And now with this tax credit, we have the funding
21:42
Speaker 3: to be able to help pay for these services. And
21:46
Speaker 3: that's what we're getting these companies excited about first educating
21:49
Speaker 3: in what's possible for them for their family, what we
21:52
Speaker 3: can do for their employees, and here's the funding to
21:54
Speaker 3: take care of it. You know.
21:56
Speaker 2: It's really interesting because back around i think before the
22:01
Speaker 2: calm a bomb in two thousand, in the late nineties,
22:05
Speaker 2: there was a big buy in by corporations for executive wellness.
22:10
Speaker 1: It was a buzzword in the industry.
22:13
Speaker 2: At that time where you know, so many companies were
22:16
Speaker 2: putting in programs, hiring wellness specialists and having physical fitness
22:23
Speaker 2: and programs that allowed people to appreciate nutrition more by
22:29
Speaker 2: you know, actual information that was being disseminated.
22:32
Speaker 1: And then I don't know if it was that because.
22:35
Speaker 2: Of the DOT I mean, I'm thinking Silicon Valley because
22:38
Speaker 2: that's in my neighborhood, but or at least you know,
22:41
Speaker 2: nearby in the California, Northern cal and then like, for example,
22:46
Speaker 2: doctor Patrick Porter was on my podcast last week and
22:49
Speaker 2: he was saying that the book he just wrote, the
22:53
Speaker 2: Brain Energy Blueprint, he wrote with the woman that used
22:56
Speaker 2: to head up the Google Executive Wellness and he said
23:00
Speaker 2: Google abandoned.
23:02
Speaker 1: The entire program, I mean just abolished it.
23:06
Speaker 2: So what do you think happened between then and now
23:10
Speaker 2: that caused this trough to occur where now you're almost
23:14
Speaker 2: starting from square one again to get these CEOs to
23:17
Speaker 2: sign on.
23:20
Speaker 3: Well, I think if you go back twenty five years
23:23
Speaker 3: to the year two thousand, there was just a beginning
23:27
Speaker 3: then of these executives understanding that there is another option
23:34
Speaker 3: to addressing health and looking at longevity and anti aging
23:40
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. In fact, A four
23:42
Speaker 3: M one of the conferences a lot of practices go
23:45
Speaker 3: to in Dalla in Las Vegas every December. It is
23:49
Speaker 3: only thirty years old. So all that was relatively new
23:53
Speaker 3: stuff and the technology was still in formation. It wasn't
23:58
Speaker 3: that advanced. There may have been a little bit of
24:02
Speaker 3: a hype, There may have been a little bit of
24:03
Speaker 3: an excitement that wasn't there, Like where's the beef type
24:07
Speaker 3: of thing, and I think that had some of it
24:10
Speaker 3: to do. Now we're so far beyond the conversation that
24:16
Speaker 3: took place there, it is unbelievable what we can do,
24:20
Speaker 3: what we can understand that's going on with people, and
24:23
Speaker 3: how we can fix things before they become serious and
24:26
Speaker 3: get to the root cause. But most importantly, right now,
24:31
Speaker 3: the issue is not executive health. The issue is society
24:35
Speaker 3: health for me at least, and what we're trying to
24:38
Speaker 3: do is get the CEOs to understand if they want
24:42
Speaker 3: the future of this country to be what they had
24:44
Speaker 3: for their kids, we got to address healthcare. This system
24:47
Speaker 3: will bankrupt everybody and we just cannot ignore it. They
24:51
Speaker 3: cannot ignore it. And what we're saying to the CEO
24:53
Speaker 3: is that you need to get up with us in
24:55
Speaker 3: front of your employees and say we're on this mission
24:58
Speaker 3: to changing lives and destinies by getting society to become
25:01
Speaker 3: proactive with their health. It's the only solutions of this
25:04
Speaker 3: healthcare crisis. And here's the programs that the problem with
25:08
Speaker 3: corporate wellness for all these years, and those studies were
25:11
Speaker 3: published I think three or four years ago, that eight
25:13
Speaker 3: billion dollars in corporate wellness is a total waste of
25:15
Speaker 3: time and money because all they do is they test
25:17
Speaker 3: people and they throw information and nobody does anything with
25:20
Speaker 3: that information. So what we're saying is that we're going
25:24
Speaker 3: to not only educate you, but we're going to give
25:26
Speaker 3: you the programs of what we can do to address
25:30
Speaker 3: the issues. That is basically getting everybody sick, and the
25:34
Speaker 3: foundational one is the food and then getting to the
25:36
Speaker 3: root cause. And we have the programs to take into
25:39
Speaker 3: the companies and get the employees excited with this new
25:42
Speaker 3: approach to being proactive instead of reactive.
25:46
Speaker 2: You know, you said something really important here, and that
25:51
Speaker 2: is the corporate buy in that was a failure. So
25:58
Speaker 2: when you know, once burned twice shy. So I think
26:01
Speaker 2: a lot of these executives who were you're you're approaching
26:05
Speaker 2: to be change agents for all of their employees, not
26:10
Speaker 2: like you said, not just executive health, but all employee health.
26:15
Speaker 1: It's you know, getting them to cross the road.
26:18
Speaker 2: Even with this five hundred dollars per employee tax credit,
26:24
Speaker 2: you still have resistance because people have been burned by
26:28
Speaker 2: trying this and spending a lot of money that didn't
26:31
Speaker 2: like you just described, didn't work and it's because they
26:34
Speaker 2: did the programs wrong. So here comes l and Transformation
26:39
Speaker 2: three sixty and the White Gust score, and we have
26:42
Speaker 2: and technology. I mean that do you remember at A
26:46
Speaker 2: four M when Peter Diamandis spoke two years ago, I
26:50
Speaker 2: think it was two or three years two years ago.
26:52
Speaker 1: Now I'm a little insecure about my years and made
26:57
Speaker 1: the mistake with you. But whatever. He was the key
27:00
Speaker 1: note speaker at A four M. He said when he
27:04
Speaker 1: was talking about AI.
27:05
Speaker 2: And he said, you know, we've accomplished more in the
27:08
Speaker 2: last ten years than we have in the last one
27:10
Speaker 2: hundred years in the healthcare system. So we have that
27:14
Speaker 2: going for us.
27:15
Speaker 1: And as you said, the AI that you.
27:17
Speaker 2: Used of the metaverse for the programs is hugely helpful
27:24
Speaker 2: for you to go from A to B without failure,
27:29
Speaker 2: which you know before that happened was disappointing to a
27:34
Speaker 2: lot of these corporations. So ll take us into a
27:39
Speaker 2: little deeper on these technologies, these one hundred.
27:43
Speaker 1: How first of all, how do you vet them? Because
27:45
Speaker 1: you and I, I mean I've looked at your list of.
27:52
Speaker 2: Podcast guests, because you and I were doing going to
27:55
Speaker 2: do a reciprocal if you remember, and so I wanted
27:59
Speaker 2: to see you know, how we.
28:00
Speaker 1: Overlapped and so forth.
28:02
Speaker 2: But many of those podcast guests have presented their companies
28:07
Speaker 2: at your conference. So that's a daunting task for you
28:12
Speaker 2: and your associate, your colleagues to vet those companies so
28:16
Speaker 2: that you don't have anyone that's going to get up
28:19
Speaker 2: there and present their wares and then never not ever
28:22
Speaker 2: get to the point of success in their business model.
28:25
Speaker 1: So tell us how you go about.
28:28
Speaker 2: Dissecting the potential of inclusion in the conference.
28:35
Speaker 3: Sure, before I do that, I just want to make
28:37
Speaker 3: a comment on what you just said. One of the
28:41
Speaker 3: reasons why we put on this executive Wellness Retreat at
28:47
Speaker 3: this two day event we just had at the RITZ
28:48
Speaker 3: Carlton and Lagre now is to educate the CEOs on
28:54
Speaker 3: what is possible. Like you say that, there's been a
29:00
Speaker 3: lot of hype, there's been a lot of miscommunication, misunderstanding
29:05
Speaker 3: and in terms of what's possible in healthcare, especially in
29:08
Speaker 3: this space, and once they understand the technology that's now
29:16
Speaker 3: available compared to a few years or ten years or
29:20
Speaker 3: twenty years ago, it really is mind boggling and it's
29:24
Speaker 3: very exciting. The response we got from those who attended
29:28
Speaker 3: is just incredible. I mean, everybody is just raving about
29:33
Speaker 3: what we presented, the technology that represented the experience they had,
29:37
Speaker 3: and the opportunity to participate and join this movement and
29:42
Speaker 3: help their people. Unfortunately, I don't think the Fortune five
29:46
Speaker 3: hundred companies are the target audience for us. We're more
29:51
Speaker 3: focused on those companies that are smaller to medium sized
29:54
Speaker 3: companies because then the CEO probably has a much closer
29:57
Speaker 3: relationship with the employees, wants to do what's right for them,
30:00
Speaker 3: and wants to make a big difference probably why they
30:04
Speaker 3: started their companies in the first place. But as far
30:07
Speaker 3: as going to your question as to how we vet
30:09
Speaker 3: these technologies, we spend a lot of time going to
30:13
Speaker 3: all the conferences. And that's what I tell a lot
30:15
Speaker 3: of practitioners. I said, look, you know, if you wanted
30:18
Speaker 3: to find the best of the best, it's almost a
30:22
Speaker 3: full time job. You can have a practice, you'd have
30:23
Speaker 3: to go to you know, literally dozens and dozens of
30:27
Speaker 3: conferences all over the country. It's a full time venue
30:31
Speaker 3: that you have to partake. And you know, what we're
30:34
Speaker 3: doing is making that journey and putting that effort into
30:40
Speaker 3: finding what we call the best of the best and
30:43
Speaker 3: showing them at the Dallas event. So we first have
30:47
Speaker 3: to go to all these conferences, be reading up and networking.
30:52
Speaker 3: There's a lot of companies that don't go to conferences.
30:55
Speaker 3: They're relatively new, they're they've got exciting technologies. They may
30:59
Speaker 3: have a fun issue about spending money going to these
31:02
Speaker 3: events because it does cost a lot. So there's a
31:05
Speaker 3: lot of referrals that also take place for us. So
31:09
Speaker 3: that's the first step, is just knowing what's out there. Now.
31:12
Speaker 3: Once you get to understand what's out there and you
31:14
Speaker 3: look at the technologies, you first want to maybe compare
31:18
Speaker 3: them to what you already have. Is it better, is
31:20
Speaker 3: it the same? Is it different, because we don't want
31:22
Speaker 3: to try and have a duplicate of the same. At
31:25
Speaker 3: the conference in Dallas, you go to a four m
31:27
Speaker 3: you got probably four of the same in that exhibit hall,
31:30
Speaker 3: sometimes even maybe ten of the same, and you've got
31:33
Speaker 3: five hundred exhibitors, seven hundred exhibitors, and you've got people
31:37
Speaker 3: being pulled in and out of the exhibit hall, and
31:39
Speaker 3: it's just a very inefficient experience for a practitioner wanting
31:43
Speaker 3: to know what's new, what's exciting, what's there. So why
31:47
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people who come to my
31:50
Speaker 3: conference in Dallas say this is the best conference is
31:53
Speaker 3: because we've designed it where on Friday, we don't have
31:56
Speaker 3: an exhibit hall. We just have workshops literally from nine
31:59
Speaker 3: to four o'clock. We have back to back presentations going
32:03
Speaker 3: on in eight different rooms. Everything is recorded so people
32:06
Speaker 3: can access it afterwards, both on the metaverse and just
32:10
Speaker 3: on the website. And then on Saturday Sundays when we
32:14
Speaker 3: have the exhibit hall. So the idea is that we're
32:16
Speaker 3: not constantly pulling people in and out of the exhibit
32:19
Speaker 3: hall or running to our class and then coming back again.
32:21
Speaker 3: We don't have hundreds and hundreds of exhibitors, many duplicates
32:26
Speaker 3: where people are not really getting a chance to see
32:29
Speaker 3: what's there. And I think that's one of the reasons
32:31
Speaker 3: why everybody keeps saying we've got one of the best conference,
32:34
Speaker 3: if not the best conference. But the first objective is
32:38
Speaker 3: to find out about everything that's out there, and then
32:42
Speaker 3: the second is to make sure that they are the
32:45
Speaker 3: best and not have a duplicate in our April conference.
32:50
Speaker 3: And then we have a team of experts that we
32:53
Speaker 3: work with to make sure that what we're promoting to
32:57
Speaker 3: our practitioners is truly a technolog that they should become
33:01
Speaker 3: aware of.
33:01
Speaker 1: And those team of experts medical doctors or MIXEDU.
33:06
Speaker 3: It's a combination, you know, just medical doctors. Many of
33:09
Speaker 3: them don't have the background of the education. I mean,
33:12
Speaker 3: you go to medical student, I don't know, I don't
33:15
Speaker 3: know if they still don't get any any classes on
33:17
Speaker 3: nutrition or you know, certainly nothing on functional medicine. The
33:22
Speaker 3: functional medicine is a complicated space to be in. It's
33:26
Speaker 3: not easy to get in there. And that's why AI
33:29
Speaker 3: is so important because AI can now help figure things
33:32
Speaker 3: out better than the practitioner can. And like, combining these two,
33:38
Speaker 3: we have an opportunity to really have even greater success
33:40
Speaker 3: with people's health outcome. So, Elle, can you.
33:43
Speaker 2: Share with us, like, just because this was so recent
33:46
Speaker 2: and Laguna, could you just share with us some of
33:50
Speaker 2: the superstars that presented it. I don't want to put
33:54
Speaker 2: you in a in a compromise spot, but if you
33:57
Speaker 2: could just single out, you know, some of the rock stars,
34:00
Speaker 2: I think I think that people would be very interested
34:03
Speaker 2: to hear that.
34:04
Speaker 3: Sure, I'll just give you three that was really amazing
34:07
Speaker 3: to me. The first, is this supplement that you can
34:15
Speaker 3: ingest and it will take a picture of your microbiomeh
34:20
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll get it will give you incredible insight
34:23
Speaker 3: as to what's going on inside the microbomb. And I'm
34:26
Speaker 3: not going into the biochemistry and the microbiome, but everything
34:29
Speaker 3: happens there. It's your second brain. A lot of people
34:32
Speaker 3: think that, you know, before you start having Alzheimer's, it's
34:35
Speaker 3: a gut issue being able to really understand what's going
34:39
Speaker 3: on and having something map out literally using a video
34:44
Speaker 3: to map out what's going on inside the microbiome is unbelievable.
34:50
Speaker 1: For interrupting you.
34:51
Speaker 2: But how how does this happen in the operational sense?
34:55
Speaker 2: If you take a pill? Where is there a camera?
34:59
Speaker 3: There's a camera. There's an actual camera there and videoing everything.
35:04
Speaker 2: Okay, so what so Okay, I'm a little confused because
35:08
Speaker 2: that camera, what's it made of?
35:10
Speaker 1: And how do you ingest it? And how does it
35:13
Speaker 1: become Uh?
35:15
Speaker 3: You just it's a supplement. It's just like a capsule.
35:18
Speaker 3: You you ingest it and ultimately it gets eliminated. It
35:25
Speaker 3: just comes out. It's not in any way gonna hurt anybody.
35:28
Speaker 3: It's FDA proved it's FDA cleared. It's it's not like
35:33
Speaker 3: a new thing that is experimental. Uh, it's it's just
35:37
Speaker 3: a fantastic technology.
35:39
Speaker 2: And how does the data get recorded so that the
35:42
Speaker 2: doctor and the patient get to see, get to learn.
35:45
Speaker 3: It's virtual. It's it's it's just like you know, you're
35:49
Speaker 3: you and I talking virtually. It's it's it's all virtual.
35:53
Speaker 3: I can you know it gets you the information. I don't.
35:56
Speaker 3: I'm not the expert I developed this.
35:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to. I'd love to know more
36:00
Speaker 1: and have the CEO on my podcast.
36:03
Speaker 3: They would love to. They would love to. They'll be
36:05
Speaker 3: at my conference next April. And it's a relatively new technology.
36:12
Speaker 3: I wasn't aware of it, but that is a game changer.
36:16
Speaker 3: The second one, another game changer is has to do
36:20
Speaker 3: with stem cells. You know stem cells. Everybody has heard
36:24
Speaker 3: about stem cells. I'm sure even consumers have. And there's
36:28
Speaker 3: a lot of controversy around stem cells. Number one, most
36:32
Speaker 3: people over a certain age, their stem cells is not
36:35
Speaker 3: going to be that effective and they have to get
36:38
Speaker 3: it from somewhere else. So there's legal issues or ethical issues,
36:42
Speaker 3: there is cost issues, and even when you do it,
36:46
Speaker 3: many times people don't notice anything. So it's a kind
36:50
Speaker 3: of a flip of a coin. Now there is a
36:53
Speaker 3: new technology that can activate dormant stem cells. So when
36:58
Speaker 3: we're born, we have these stem cells that are never activated.
37:02
Speaker 3: It's it's just dormant, and this technology actually activates it
37:08
Speaker 3: and the results is incredible. What can take place is
37:16
Speaker 3: literally miraculous. So we had that technology.
37:20
Speaker 1: Excuse me, was that stem Regen? Was that Christian?
37:24
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no. Stem Regen is there is helping
37:31
Speaker 3: you're existing stem cells to work better. This is activating
37:37
Speaker 3: dormant stem cells. The problem with trying to get your
37:40
Speaker 3: own stem cells, you know, if you're after a certain age,
37:44
Speaker 3: you just don't have the stem cell load and the
37:50
Speaker 3: generation that you need to have a huge impact. Stem
37:55
Speaker 3: Region is a great product and everybody should take it
37:57
Speaker 3: and it will help. But this is activating dormance themselves
38:02
Speaker 3: that have never been used and uses a laser to
38:05
Speaker 3: do that, and the immediate response addressing conditions that many
38:14
Speaker 3: consider irreversible is incredible. And it's a brand new technology
38:19
Speaker 3: that is right now being launched. So that's another one.
38:23
Speaker 3: The third one I'll just quickly touch on is a
38:27
Speaker 3: company that has this microcurrent with a very unique signal
38:31
Speaker 3: that they've created and it's been around for about five
38:35
Speaker 3: years and it basically kills viruses and cancer cells. They
38:42
Speaker 3: have been having amazing success on all counts people with cancer.
38:48
Speaker 3: I personally experienced it with my son this weekend. My
38:54
Speaker 3: son suddenly had some kind of virus and he was
38:58
Speaker 3: just gone. I mean, he just couldn't get out of bed.
39:00
Speaker 3: He just was sleeping twenty four to seven and literally
39:03
Speaker 3: and he started and he had a sore throat. They
39:08
Speaker 3: have this probe that you can put in your mouth
39:11
Speaker 3: and literally, in fifteen minutes, his sore throat had disappeared,
39:16
Speaker 3: and then he slept on it and he recovered almost
39:20
Speaker 3: to ninety percent the next day, and then a second
39:22
Speaker 3: day it was gone. He was no longer sake. I mean,
39:25
Speaker 3: there's things like this that everybody should become aware of,
39:30
Speaker 3: and that's what we showcase at our conferences, whether it's
39:33
Speaker 3: at the executive or at the Practitioner conference in Dallas.
39:37
Speaker 3: These are the kind of technologies that is going to
39:39
Speaker 3: revolutionize healthcare in combination with AI. And the challenge is
39:45
Speaker 3: our traditional healthcare system doesn't even know this stuff exists,
39:49
Speaker 3: of course, and if they even look at it. Their
39:52
Speaker 3: first response is this is hocus pocus or whatever they
39:56
Speaker 3: might call it, and they don't even want to give
39:58
Speaker 3: it the time of day.
40:00
Speaker 2: They want to They want to see a scientific first.
40:02
Speaker 2: They want to know if it's FDA approved. Then they
40:04
Speaker 2: want to know if there are scientific studies and where
40:07
Speaker 2: they were published, and you know, are they legitimate ones
40:10
Speaker 2: and not just being sponsored by the company itself, which
40:15
Speaker 2: you know, we know happens in the allopathic world right
40:18
Speaker 2: when we see a lot of these studies about drugs.
40:21
Speaker 2: So yeah, so what if you don't mind, what are
40:24
Speaker 2: the names of those three companies.
40:26
Speaker 1: If you remember.
40:28
Speaker 3: The the the actually the the one that does the
40:33
Speaker 3: video of the micro around is a very difficult name.
40:36
Speaker 3: I don't remember that name.
40:37
Speaker 1: Okay.
40:38
Speaker 3: The other one is Biophysics that does the stem cells,
40:42
Speaker 3: and the other one, uh for the viruses and the
40:45
Speaker 3: cancer cells is ACTI met a C T T N
40:48
Speaker 3: E d actimed actimen.
40:51
Speaker 1: And are these is that like a p E MF bid.
40:54
Speaker 3: No, it's not a p m F it's it's a
40:57
Speaker 3: micro current with a very unique signal that the patented.
41:01
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'd love to put it in the show notes.
41:04
Speaker 2: So our viewers can have a chance to go and
41:07
Speaker 2: look at those companies independently of us talking about them today.
41:11
Speaker 1: So when we are offline, I'll get those from you.
41:17
Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen it now personally in action. Here's
41:21
Speaker 3: here's what's really amazing with this company. The founder is
41:26
Speaker 3: owners of this company, two people called Mike and Rudy.
41:31
Speaker 3: They could be selling this for I don't know, tens
41:34
Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars. They have no interest in making
41:37
Speaker 3: money on this. All they want to do is help
41:40
Speaker 3: society address, you know, whatever issues they have. The price
41:44
Speaker 3: of this is a joke. I mean, it's there's the
41:47
Speaker 3: least extensive product I've seen in our industry and it
41:52
Speaker 3: literally can save people's lives.
41:53
Speaker 1: And what is what is the price?
41:56
Speaker 3: It's less than three thousand dollars? Oh wow. And it's
41:59
Speaker 3: a whomew that you basically use it anywhere and anytime
42:03
Speaker 3: you want. And I've never seen anything have such immediate
42:07
Speaker 3: impact on people.
42:10
Speaker 1: Wow.
42:12
Speaker 2: So let's go to the opposite side. Has there ever
42:15
Speaker 2: been any of the presenters that have not met your
42:20
Speaker 2: expectations after the fact, And if I don't, you don't
42:23
Speaker 2: need to name names.
42:24
Speaker 1: But I'm just curious to know if that ever happens.
42:28
Speaker 3: Uh huh. I mean with one.
42:32
Speaker 2: Hundred at your big conference and thirty at your little conference,
42:36
Speaker 2: that there's a lot of companies that have to do
42:38
Speaker 2: everything right in order to meet the standards of excellence
42:42
Speaker 2: that you you know, you acquire of course for your clients.
42:48
Speaker 2: I just imagine knowing the venture capital format of you know,
42:53
Speaker 2: ten companies, that there's going to be one superstar home
42:58
Speaker 2: run and then there maybe three or four living dead
43:00
Speaker 2: and the rest are failures. So you know, why is
43:03
Speaker 2: it that you know so many startups fail? I mean
43:06
Speaker 2: that's you know, we both know the history of that,
43:09
Speaker 2: even with your own experience with your startup.
43:12
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean to be honest with you, I
43:15
Speaker 3: can't recall a company to say that this was a mistake.
43:20
Speaker 3: We do a lot of research before we invite a company.
43:24
Speaker 3: You know, we were always sold up as far as
43:28
Speaker 3: we only have a hundred booths, and everybody who comes
43:31
Speaker 3: to our consotlet wants to come back. We always try
43:33
Speaker 3: to bring new ones so we don't have a problem
43:36
Speaker 3: getting exhibitors. So we are very careful to only invite
43:40
Speaker 3: those that have something of value. I can't tell you
43:45
Speaker 3: that there is a company that kind of bombed out
43:49
Speaker 3: or was a mistake, But I just to tag along
43:54
Speaker 3: on your venture capital and so many companies going out
43:59
Speaker 3: of business. We actually this passed. April had an investor
44:07
Speaker 3: meetup before we opened the conference on Friday. Usually it's Friday, Saturday,
44:12
Speaker 3: Sunday in April the last weekend, and like I said,
44:16
Speaker 3: Friday is just workshops. Friday night we have a buy
44:19
Speaker 3: invitation only, black tyed dinner for about five hundred people,
44:22
Speaker 3: and Saturday Sunday we get out fifteen hundred exhibit visiting
44:27
Speaker 3: the exhibit hall. But this year on Thursday, we actually
44:30
Speaker 3: had an investor meetup for ten companies. Out of the
44:34
Speaker 3: one hundred companies, we took ten that wanted to raise
44:37
Speaker 3: money and we had and we invited investors to come in.
44:41
Speaker 3: We had a panel like Shark Tank. Everybody gave a
44:44
Speaker 3: seven minute pitch with a deck and then the panel
44:47
Speaker 3: would ask questions and anybody in the investor audience could
44:50
Speaker 3: ask questions. And what we told the investors is that
44:54
Speaker 3: you know the problem with the way that vcs and
44:57
Speaker 3: all these guys are investing is that they listen to
45:01
Speaker 3: the pitch, they ask a few questions they look at
45:04
Speaker 3: the financials, they you know, look at the background of
45:06
Speaker 3: the owners and the founders and the operators, see what
45:11
Speaker 3: they've done in the past, and they make a decision
45:13
Speaker 3: and probably eight of those companies go out of business,
45:17
Speaker 3: nine will maybe you know, survive, and then the tenth
45:21
Speaker 3: one is they make some big money on Well, that's
45:23
Speaker 3: a kind of ridiculous numbers statistically in terms of trying
45:27
Speaker 3: to make money. They come from the investment background before
45:30
Speaker 3: I got into into this, So I thought, what if
45:34
Speaker 3: they on Thursday, they would be able to discover these
45:38
Speaker 3: companies everybody's there giving a pitch, just like everybody does,
45:42
Speaker 3: and then on Friday that investor could go and listen
45:47
Speaker 3: to understand the details behind the technology they're really investing in.
45:52
Speaker 3: Is on Friday, we just have workshops, and then on
45:55
Speaker 3: Saturday they can see how the end user gets excited
45:59
Speaker 3: with that technology that's being promoted and in the process
46:06
Speaker 3: see management and action. So we came up with that
46:10
Speaker 3: model and we kind of introduced it to the investor
46:14
Speaker 3: community and everybody said, hey, this is fantastic, this sounds great,
46:18
Speaker 3: and it worked out really, really good. So we're going
46:22
Speaker 3: to continue that next April. The Thursday, before the conference opens,
46:27
Speaker 3: we're going to have another ten companies pitch and invite
46:32
Speaker 3: investors to come and that way, hopefully, you know, they
46:37
Speaker 3: can make better decisions. So the numbers isn't eight going
46:42
Speaker 3: out of business, but a lot more success.
46:45
Speaker 1: Well, just being able to pick those ten companies out
46:49
Speaker 1: of the hundred is a.
46:50
Speaker 2: Challenge in itself. So how do you how do you
46:53
Speaker 2: make that decision of which companies are going to be make.
46:57
Speaker 3: The cut for the Yeah, that's a good question. I mean,
47:05
Speaker 3: it just involves us to The good news is we
47:09
Speaker 3: know a lot of these companies in terms of what's
47:11
Speaker 3: the product, who are the people, and where they're at
47:14
Speaker 3: with their business. And the good news is that they're
47:17
Speaker 3: all in revenue, they all have proof of concept. They
47:19
Speaker 3: just wanted to go to the next level. And in fact,
47:21
Speaker 3: all the investors were saying these companies were incredible that presented.
47:26
Speaker 3: Some were looking for a lot of money, some were
47:29
Speaker 3: looking for a lot of money, but they all were
47:31
Speaker 3: fantastic in terms of what they had. The challenge was
47:35
Speaker 3: that most of them didn't know how to present and
47:38
Speaker 3: most of them didn't know how to present their financials.
47:41
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm trying to do this time is
47:43
Speaker 3: to make sure that we kind of coached them on
47:46
Speaker 3: how to present and especially showing their financials in a
47:50
Speaker 3: way that gets people to understand what's there and what's
47:53
Speaker 3: going to potentially happen. But the way that we pick
47:56
Speaker 3: them is we just look at the companies we find
47:58
Speaker 3: out who we already know that the one hundred companies
48:01
Speaker 3: are great companies. We wouldn't have them there if they weren't.
48:04
Speaker 3: The question is one do they want to raise money
48:07
Speaker 3: to what are they going to do with that money,
48:09
Speaker 3: and whether it all makes sense. So that's part of
48:13
Speaker 3: what we try to bring value to those who are
48:16
Speaker 3: coming as investors, is to say we've got some unique
48:20
Speaker 3: companies here if you're interested in this space. This approach
48:24
Speaker 3: of Thursday, discover, Friday, evaluate, a Saturday validified is a
48:29
Speaker 3: much better deeper dive to make a decision than the
48:32
Speaker 3: way you're doing it right now.
48:36
Speaker 2: Like I said in the beginning, you're doing so much
48:39
Speaker 2: and you have been for so long that it's really
48:42
Speaker 2: kind of daunting when you think about the big picture
48:46
Speaker 2: and the challenges that you face and how you then
48:49
Speaker 2: bring it down to the.
48:50
Speaker 1: Minutia of execution and success.
48:54
Speaker 2: So I just want to applaud you, and of course
48:58
Speaker 2: you know I'm very fond of you, so that we
49:01
Speaker 2: start with a very strong foundation of mutual Admiraate, Well,
49:05
Speaker 2: I hope it's mutual.
49:06
Speaker 3: Of course, of course it's mutual. I appreciate what you're doing.
49:11
Speaker 2: And actually, if you remember, I made some inquiries for
49:13
Speaker 2: you for that those ten companies, and I remember.
49:18
Speaker 1: I called Harut.
49:21
Speaker 2: In Florida. He wasn't ready to raise money, but I
49:24
Speaker 2: do remember that I did make a couple of inquiries.
49:28
Speaker 2: A lot of our contacts are overlapping, as we have discovered.
49:34
Speaker 2: What when you had Dell big Tree on I admire
49:39
Speaker 2: all that he's been trying to do with Maha. Did
49:42
Speaker 2: you did you listen to that podcast when I think
49:46
Speaker 2: was Stephanie interviewed him or do you did you follow
49:50
Speaker 2: any of the reactions after that? What when he presented
49:55
Speaker 2: his vision?
49:57
Speaker 3: Well, you know we had Dell speaking our conferences past
50:01
Speaker 3: April that. Yeah, we actually recognized Delle at the Black
50:05
Speaker 3: Time and he gave a fantastic speech there. You know,
50:10
Speaker 3: he's a very unique person. He's he's really in this
50:13
Speaker 3: for the right reason. He obviously has his beliefs. As
50:17
Speaker 3: far as vaccines as a concern, we're not into the
50:19
Speaker 3: vaccine stuff. That's that's not our wheelhouse. We're all about
50:24
Speaker 3: finding address chronic illness and getting to the root cause
50:27
Speaker 3: of why everybody's getting sick. That's a whole different space
50:33
Speaker 3: that I really don't know enough about to participate and address.
50:38
Speaker 3: But Dale's very very passionate about the vaccine as his RFK,
50:42
Speaker 3: and and he he did a very good job of
50:46
Speaker 3: explaining it all at our conference, and uh, I think
50:50
Speaker 3: everybody was very excited about what he presented.
50:57
Speaker 1: But his vision for the future is a line with
51:00
Speaker 1: your vision.
51:00
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, no, I you know, root cause versus yeah.
51:03
Speaker 3: I mean the RFK, Dell, all these guys from MAHA,
51:07
Speaker 3: they all we're all on the same page. As far
51:10
Speaker 3: as we need to address the food, we need to
51:14
Speaker 3: address chronic illness, we need to address toxicity and environmental toxins.
51:20
Speaker 3: These are all at the root cause and why everybody's
51:23
Speaker 3: getting sick. And so you know, that's why I'm saying,
51:27
Speaker 3: we're at a point in life in this country where
51:32
Speaker 3: all the stories have aligned for us to have impact.
51:35
Speaker 2: This is it, This is it.
51:36
Speaker 3: If we don't do it now, we're never going to
51:39
Speaker 3: do it right.
51:42
Speaker 1: And this has been going on far too.
51:45
Speaker 2: Long. It's it's it's the time has come for change.
51:49
Speaker 2: And you know, when you're a changing agent and you.
51:52
Speaker 1: Look at the landscape and you see the you know,
51:55
Speaker 1: the history and all the mistakes.
51:59
Speaker 2: I guess you'd say the false starts, but you know, folly.
52:04
Speaker 2: I mean, let's face it. I don't want to be political,
52:06
Speaker 2: but you know, you look at what you said earlier.
52:10
Speaker 1: The pharmaceutical and the.
52:13
Speaker 2: Industries are the ones that hold a lot of power
52:17
Speaker 2: with their advertising and their political donation support.
52:22
Speaker 1: So we need to through all that gray matter.
52:27
Speaker 2: And certainly we have more opportunity now as and people
52:32
Speaker 2: like you doing what you're doing.
52:34
Speaker 1: You know, it's once John F.
52:36
Speaker 2: Kennedy said, you know, a thousand mile journey starts with
52:40
Speaker 2: one small step and here or here you are with
52:44
Speaker 2: your vision. So if you could leave us today with
52:49
Speaker 2: one message for the future, like what do you see
52:52
Speaker 2: in ten years twenty thirty five? What do you see
52:56
Speaker 2: and how do you see yourself playing a role in what?
53:02
Speaker 3: I think that I guess I mean the question is
53:06
Speaker 3: what would you what is.
53:07
Speaker 1: Your vision for twenty thirty five?
53:09
Speaker 3: What do you say on the landscape, Well, I think
53:13
Speaker 3: that functional medicine will be the focus of society to
53:20
Speaker 3: become proactive instead of reactive. I think that everybody will
53:24
Speaker 3: have an avatar on the metaverse that allows them to
53:30
Speaker 3: learn about all these technologies in ways that they can't
53:35
Speaker 3: do it right now. They'll have an AI expert avatar
53:41
Speaker 3: of their practitioner that will provide all the answers and
53:46
Speaker 3: to their questions, and they will be very proactive and
53:52
Speaker 3: being able to correct everything literally being checked, if not quarterly,
53:58
Speaker 3: at least annually without having to go somewhere and without
54:04
Speaker 3: having to spend a lot of money because everything will
54:09
Speaker 3: be automated and AI driven.
54:14
Speaker 4: You know.
54:15
Speaker 1: The other thing that we need to do is education
54:20
Speaker 1: right at the grassroots, I mean right in the medical schools.
54:22
Speaker 2: If we don't change the dynamic of the educational system,
54:27
Speaker 2: these doctors that never really like you said, never really
54:30
Speaker 2: get any education and nutrition. I mean, you don't want
54:34
Speaker 2: to just focus on the ones that make the transition
54:36
Speaker 2: like you have. Well, like the medical doctors you and
54:39
Speaker 2: I know that have gone from being allopathic practitioners to
54:43
Speaker 2: functional medicine. You know, basically the composite of a four
54:47
Speaker 2: M right. Those people have made a switch for many,
54:51
Speaker 2: many reasons, and I find interviewing them on my podcast
54:55
Speaker 2: that a lot of the common denominators of their transition
55:00
Speaker 2: has been personal challenges, health challenges, and that you know so,
55:06
Speaker 2: but we can't rely on that, you know, we need
55:08
Speaker 2: to get deeper into the allopathic model to make changes
55:13
Speaker 2: right there where it's going to be affecting the masses
55:17
Speaker 2: of the medical system.
55:19
Speaker 1: Do you agree with that?
55:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, we live in a capitalist system.
55:24
Speaker 3: I think the market is going to force this. We're
55:28
Speaker 3: seeing a tremendous amount of movement by physicians who want
55:31
Speaker 3: to learn about functional medicine and get into this space
55:34
Speaker 3: of being more proactive, and I think that's going to
55:38
Speaker 3: have a huge impact. I think that the use of
55:42
Speaker 3: AI and all these technology we've been talking about is
55:45
Speaker 3: also going to drive this, so that access to this
55:49
Speaker 3: kind of information will be a lot more feasible, financially viable,
55:56
Speaker 3: and accessible. So I'm hopeful. I think if we can't,
56:01
Speaker 3: we have three years at least with RFK hopefully still
56:05
Speaker 3: there and society open to this alternative approach to looking
56:10
Speaker 3: at it being proactive to really move the needle and
56:13
Speaker 3: if we can do that, I don't think anything can
56:16
Speaker 3: stop that direction because it's true healthcare and people aren't
56:20
Speaker 3: going to be fooled anymore.
56:21
Speaker 2: You know, another industry we didn't touch on is the
56:25
Speaker 2: insurance industry and how important that's going to be for
56:29
Speaker 2: the buy in for functional medicine, that there will be
56:32
Speaker 2: more and more preventative.
56:35
Speaker 1: Protocols that are covered, because.
56:38
Speaker 2: You know, I have so many people I want to
56:40
Speaker 2: refer to my functional medicine doctors, but the first question
56:44
Speaker 2: they asked me is do they accept insurance?
56:47
Speaker 1: And you know, we both know that not everybody.
56:49
Speaker 2: Can afford functional medicine and concierge medicine. So there needs
56:54
Speaker 2: to be a movement for the masses, and insurance companies
56:58
Speaker 2: hold the keys to the safe and that one that
57:01
Speaker 2: they will, you know, end up being more open minded
57:03
Speaker 2: about covering for preventative care.
57:06
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know how quickly that's going to happen,
57:09
Speaker 3: because really these three industries are very interlined, the pharmaceutical,
57:14
Speaker 3: the food and the insurance industry. They are kind of
57:17
Speaker 3: feed off of each other. But there are you know,
57:20
Speaker 3: the marketplace is very dynamic. There are right now companies
57:26
Speaker 3: that do shared funding, which they don't like to call
57:29
Speaker 3: it insurance, but it's it's really the same, but just
57:32
Speaker 3: have to legally call it separate something else. And the
57:36
Speaker 3: concept is that you can reduce your premium significantly, at
57:41
Speaker 3: least by fifty percent or more, but it's only really
57:45
Speaker 3: going to cover more of the catastrophic story. So the
57:48
Speaker 3: idea is that use that savings to stay well and
57:52
Speaker 3: have that insurance concept there if you have some cancel
57:57
Speaker 3: suddenly or some accident, and that's that's already there. A
58:03
Speaker 3: lot of companies are even looking at shared funding to
58:06
Speaker 3: offer their employees. Anybody that is in our space, meaning
58:11
Speaker 3: they're proactive with their health, they're trying to do this
58:14
Speaker 3: kind of preventive medicine and see functional medicine docs, they
58:18
Speaker 3: all should go onto health sharing because that's going to
58:22
Speaker 3: save them a lot of money and they give use
58:24
Speaker 3: some of that savings to stay well and hopefully not
58:27
Speaker 3: ever have to deal with the catastrophic.
58:30
Speaker 1: But if you're on for the elderly for over sixty
58:33
Speaker 1: five and you're on Medicare, you don't.
58:35
Speaker 3: Have that option. You don't have that option, but you
58:38
Speaker 3: don't also have the huge costs that right now health insurance.
58:42
Speaker 3: I mean, you know these for twenty four million Americans
58:47
Speaker 3: that are going to lose these subsidies, Yes, having double
58:50
Speaker 3: or triple their premium. I don't know who and how
58:54
Speaker 3: they're going to pay for that.
58:55
Speaker 1: How they're going to do it. Yeah, Well, before we.
58:59
Speaker 2: Close, because I just got signaled, I want to be
59:02
Speaker 2: sure to tell everybody that you've offered something very generous.
59:06
Speaker 1: So could you just tell us what that is? So
59:09
Speaker 1: I put it have in your words.
59:11
Speaker 3: Not mine. Sure. We have a conference the end of
59:14
Speaker 3: April April twenty fourth, twenty fifth, twenty six, the last
59:17
Speaker 3: weekend in April in Dallas, Texas. It's a three day event.
59:22
Speaker 3: We showcase one hundred technologies, and we're giving your viewers
59:27
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59:31
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59:36
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59:40
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59:43
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59:48
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59:51
Speaker 3: to the exhibit hall and you see what's new and exciting.
59:58
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Speaker 1: And what is the cost just without the fifty percent.
1:00:18
Speaker 3: It's a five ninety nine and ninety nine dollars.
1:00:20
Speaker 2: Okay, but that includes I mean, that doesn't include your hotel,
1:00:23
Speaker 2: but that includes.
1:00:26
Speaker 1: That they all the exhibit, all the three days. It
1:00:31
Speaker 1: includes three.
1:00:31
Speaker 3: Days of the it is three days at the conference,
1:00:34
Speaker 3: which we have all those presentations taking place on Friday.
1:00:40
Speaker 3: It has all the exhibitors Saturday Sunday, and all the
1:00:44
Speaker 3: recording so that if they miss a presentation they can
1:00:49
Speaker 3: access it later.
1:00:50
Speaker 1: And it's you said it was in Plano, wasn't it
1:00:53
Speaker 1: the last.
1:00:54
Speaker 3: North of Dallas. It's called Plano. It's it's a beautiful
1:00:57
Speaker 3: hotel there. Everybody loves this hotel. Well, so that's why
1:01:00
Speaker 3: we keep going back.
1:01:01
Speaker 1: Right, what's the name of that hotel else.
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Speaker 3: The Hilt It's the Hilton and Granted Park.
1:01:05
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember. Now okay, all right, well we've
1:01:08
Speaker 1: been as always. We can talk forever, but really appreciate
1:01:13
Speaker 1: everything you've done.
1:01:13
Speaker 2: Today and sharing some very important information on some of
1:01:18
Speaker 2: these companies that are the cutting edge that people wouldn't
1:01:22
Speaker 2: ordinarily hear about.
1:01:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you for what you do, Michelle. Getting
1:01:26
Speaker 3: the word out is half the battle, and appreciate all
1:01:30
Speaker 3: the effort you make in that in that line.
1:01:33
Speaker 2: Well, you know, in addition to when I met with
1:01:36
Speaker 2: you rad Fresh and Fab, I now write a monthly
1:01:42
Speaker 2: column for Top Doctor Magazine. So that's John Hyland you
1:01:46
Speaker 2: met this last weekend, right, the public Service. Yeah, so,
1:01:51
Speaker 2: so I work with John and so you know, I
1:01:55
Speaker 2: know you're always looking for new technologies and new people,
1:01:59
Speaker 2: and I'm all always there for you to you know,
1:02:02
Speaker 2: contact if you want to referrals.
1:02:04
Speaker 1: But Top Doctor Magazine is also where I feature a
1:02:07
Speaker 1: lot of those same people.
1:02:09
Speaker 3: Fantastic. Well, congratulations, I look forward to seeing you next April. Well,
1:02:14
Speaker 3: I think i'll see you in December, right at that's right,
1:02:18
Speaker 3: we'll see.
1:02:19
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thank you again, and you take care and
1:02:22
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. You work, you work, you work,
1:02:26
Speaker 1: you work very hard, so you need to watch yourself
1:02:29
Speaker 1: and make sure you pace yourself correctly.
1:02:31
Speaker 3: Right okay, l all right
1:02:34
Speaker 1: See you in December